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Berg responds to Christmas party reports

BLACKBURN Rovers have released a statement in response to national newspaper reports about Monday night's Christmas party.

It has been claimed that manager Henning Berg 'stormed' out of Monday's party after being asked to don a wig and dance on stage.

In a statement, Berg said: “On Monday evening, the club arranged its official Christmas Party for all employees and staff.

"We have many hard-working employees and this was an opportunity for them to relax and enjoy themselves after what has been a difficult year.

“After the dinner I was asked to go to the stage, which I was happy to do, believing I would be asked a few questions or maybe judge a competition.

"Instead I was asked to do things which were not the right things for me to do as the manager, considering our league position and form.

"I did not want to do it and went back to my table. Later, I left the event at around 9.30pm, as planned, and drove home. The players left straight after dinner and no alcohol was consumed.”

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11:08am Wed 19 Dec 12

Ray Gunn says...

i hope the party went ok and that you all had a great time at our expence....its been a difficult year for us fans too...but we cant afford a party due to paying your wages....MERRY CHRISTMAS Berg
i hope the party went ok and that you all had a great time at our expence....its been a difficult year for us fans too...but we cant afford a party due to paying your wages....MERRY CHRISTMAS Berg Ray Gunn
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11:09am Wed 19 Dec 12

kazz says...

I feel sorry for berg. Hes fighting a lost battle, i bet it was agnew who tried to put that wig on him. Maybe agnew was under strict instructions from a certain agent that cannot be named for legal reasons
I feel sorry for berg. Hes fighting a lost battle, i bet it was agnew who tried to put that wig on him. Maybe agnew was under strict instructions from a certain agent that cannot be named for legal reasons kazz
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11:10am Wed 19 Dec 12

Angry From Accrington says...

Taxi for BERG?..............a
nd Shebby the Snake!
Taxi for BERG?..............a nd Shebby the Snake! Angry From Accrington
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11:10am Wed 19 Dec 12

andybrfc says...

I applaud Henning for seeing the potential for photos being made public and used against him.

The real question for me is, who leaked the mail story to the press. ( someone with very good press contacts as it appeared very quickly)
And what is our PR director and pr company doing letting stories like this appear.....unless it suits there agenda perhaps?
I applaud Henning for seeing the potential for photos being made public and used against him. The real question for me is, who leaked the mail story to the press. ( someone with very good press contacts as it appeared very quickly) And what is our PR director and pr company doing letting stories like this appear.....unless it suits there agenda perhaps? andybrfc
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11:19am Wed 19 Dec 12

R.I.P. Rovers says...

the picks would of been funny but like berg says it's time to let yea hair down and it's at a Xmas party

bloody hell Berg liven up a bit - no wonder the players seem down on the pitch if you can't have a bloody laugh

all become apparent now at rovers
the picks would of been funny but like berg says it's time to let yea hair down and it's at a Xmas party bloody hell Berg liven up a bit - no wonder the players seem down on the pitch if you can't have a bloody laugh all become apparent now at rovers R.I.P. Rovers
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11:20am Wed 19 Dec 12

Angry From Accrington says...

kazz wrote:
I feel sorry for berg. Hes fighting a lost battle, i bet it was agnew who tried to put that wig on him. Maybe agnew was under strict instructions from a certain agent that cannot be named for legal reasons
And I have no sympathy whatsoever for Berg. Whilst he is clearly fighting a losing battle, it is a battle that he entered into willingly, with absolutely no credentials to do so. This episode, either illustrates his weakness as a leader or confirms that he is a figure of ridicule for the staff, as well as the fans.
He needs to go and Shebby the Snake needs to follow him.
[quote][p][bold]kazz[/bold] wrote: I feel sorry for berg. Hes fighting a lost battle, i bet it was agnew who tried to put that wig on him. Maybe agnew was under strict instructions from a certain agent that cannot be named for legal reasons[/p][/quote]And I have no sympathy whatsoever for Berg. Whilst he is clearly fighting a losing battle, it is a battle that he entered into willingly, with absolutely no credentials to do so. This episode, either illustrates his weakness as a leader or confirms that he is a figure of ridicule for the staff, as well as the fans. He needs to go and Shebby the Snake needs to follow him. Angry From Accrington
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11:33am Wed 19 Dec 12

vicn1956 says...

What did Shabby perform on stage?
Perhaps a song!
Ideas please.
I'll start with- "I'm the great pretender."
or
"Another one bites the dust."
What did Shabby perform on stage? Perhaps a song! Ideas please. I'll start with- "I'm the great pretender." or "Another one bites the dust." vicn1956
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11:34am Wed 19 Dec 12

buzzinfly says...

Defends himself well, just needs to get the team to do the same.
Defends himself well, just needs to get the team to do the same. buzzinfly
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11:34am Wed 19 Dec 12

Bazzer says...

Sam Allardyce has a full head of hair.
Sam Allardyce has a full head of hair. Bazzer
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11:39am Wed 19 Dec 12

1riversider says...

vicn1956 wrote:
What did Shabby perform on stage?
Perhaps a song!
Ideas please.
I'll start with- "I'm the great pretender."
or
"Another one bites the dust."
What about "What kind of fool am I?" Suit the moron down to the ground.
[quote][p][bold]vicn1956[/bold] wrote: What did Shabby perform on stage? Perhaps a song! Ideas please. I'll start with- "I'm the great pretender." or "Another one bites the dust."[/p][/quote]What about "What kind of fool am I?" Suit the moron down to the ground. 1riversider
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11:39am Wed 19 Dec 12

juanbbien says...

I don't blame Berg dressing up and acting the clown (we have enough of them as it is) is not everybodys cup of tea whether its Christmas or not okay have a laugh but lets have some bloody Respect and if the mans not comfortable with this situation why push it I'm sure there are plenty of other candidates down there willing to mess about,for they have been doing this all season,can't they get anything right,blimey there was never any of this in the past.
I don't blame Berg dressing up and acting the clown (we have enough of them as it is) is not everybodys cup of tea whether its Christmas or not okay have a laugh but lets have some bloody Respect and if the mans not comfortable with this situation why push it I'm sure there are plenty of other candidates down there willing to mess about,for they have been doing this all season,can't they get anything right,blimey there was never any of this in the past. juanbbien
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11:43am Wed 19 Dec 12

1riversider says...

On a serous note though, what the hell is our PR expert, and Operations Director, the invisible Mr. Agnew doing to earn his wages?
The shambles goes on and on and..........

SHYSTERS GET OUT OF OUR CLUB NOW
On a serous note though, what the hell is our PR expert, and Operations Director, the invisible Mr. Agnew doing to earn his wages? The shambles goes on and on and.......... SHYSTERS GET OUT OF OUR CLUB NOW 1riversider
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11:47am Wed 19 Dec 12

French Rover says...

Bazzer wrote:
Sam Allardyce has a full head of hair.
Air maybe - as he can be a windbag at times bazzer ;)
[quote][p][bold]Bazzer[/bold] wrote: Sam Allardyce has a full head of hair.[/p][/quote]Air maybe - as he can be a windbag at times bazzer ;) French Rover
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11:48am Wed 19 Dec 12

vicn1956 says...

"Money for nothing."

"The fool on the hill."
"Money for nothing." "The fool on the hill." vicn1956
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11:56am Wed 19 Dec 12

blueblooded says...

vicn1956 wrote:
What did Shabby perform on stage?
Perhaps a song!
Ideas please.
I'll start with- "I'm the great pretender."
or
"Another one bites the dust."
Shattered Dreams - Johnny Hates Jazz
Lying Eyes - Eagles
Broken Promises - Survivor
[quote][p][bold]vicn1956[/bold] wrote: What did Shabby perform on stage? Perhaps a song! Ideas please. I'll start with- "I'm the great pretender." or "Another one bites the dust."[/p][/quote]Shattered Dreams - Johnny Hates Jazz Lying Eyes - Eagles Broken Promises - Survivor blueblooded
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11:57am Wed 19 Dec 12

maltese blue n white says...

Any blues fans out there????
what about George thorogood and the destroyers..... "If it wasn't for bad luck" (I wouldn't have no luck at all)
Any blues fans out there???? what about George thorogood and the destroyers..... "If it wasn't for bad luck" (I wouldn't have no luck at all) maltese blue n white
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11:58am Wed 19 Dec 12

gary17 says...

glad the lads can celebrate something as winning a game of football isnt one of them
glad the lads can celebrate something as winning a game of football isnt one of them gary17
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12:00pm Wed 19 Dec 12

eddie the eagle says...

SHEBBY SINGHS SONG: I DID IT MY WAY.
OR HIS LATEST VERSION :YOU ALL DID IT MY WAY.
SHEBBY SINGHS SONG: I DID IT MY WAY. OR HIS LATEST VERSION :YOU ALL DID IT MY WAY. eddie the eagle
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12:02pm Wed 19 Dec 12

Riverside 7 says...

I've been very critical of Berg's performance as manager to date, but if his version of events is correct, I believe that he has acted in the right way.
I've been very critical of Berg's performance as manager to date, but if his version of events is correct, I believe that he has acted in the right way. Riverside 7
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12:03pm Wed 19 Dec 12

moh says...

Angry From Accrington wrote:
Taxi for BERG?..............a nd Shebby the Snake!
I think the team are playing slightly better than early in season when we played awful and won. Berg needs more time and he has my support. Its other peoples perogative whether they support the team and manager or not.
[quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: Taxi for BERG?..............a nd Shebby the Snake![/p][/quote]I think the team are playing slightly better than early in season when we played awful and won. Berg needs more time and he has my support. Its other peoples perogative whether they support the team and manager or not. moh
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12:05pm Wed 19 Dec 12

Grey Rover says...

Nothing wrong with a Christmas party but Berg did the right thing. A complete non-story. In the Daily Mail it seems - why am I not surprised?
Nothing wrong with a Christmas party but Berg did the right thing. A complete non-story. In the Daily Mail it seems - why am I not surprised? Grey Rover
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12:16pm Wed 19 Dec 12

merlinrabbit says...

Ray Gunn wrote:
i hope the party went ok and that you all had a great time at our expence....its been a difficult year for us fans too...but we cant afford a party due to paying your wages....MERRY CHRISTMAS Berg
For goodness sake, people are having christmas parties of some type from work all over the country despite grim times. Im sorry if you cant afford any christmas celebration with your work mates but expecting Blackburn Rovers not to have their annual bash is plain ridiculous. How is team spirit etc ever going to improve if everything positive is cancelled to appease some fans?
[quote][p][bold]Ray Gunn[/bold] wrote: i hope the party went ok and that you all had a great time at our expence....its been a difficult year for us fans too...but we cant afford a party due to paying your wages....MERRY CHRISTMAS Berg[/p][/quote]For goodness sake, people are having christmas parties of some type from work all over the country despite grim times. Im sorry if you cant afford any christmas celebration with your work mates but expecting Blackburn Rovers not to have their annual bash is plain ridiculous. How is team spirit etc ever going to improve if everything positive is cancelled to appease some fans? merlinrabbit
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12:19pm Wed 19 Dec 12

chez rover says...

Noticed that all the other managers with a club in trouble cancelled their xmas party? Why haven't we cancelled? You can't be seen to be enjoying yourself claiming you've worked hard all year if you've been relagated and you're now sat 15th in the championship with 1 win in 9?

Another topic. I was talking to John Jensen in manchester airport the other the day. He didn't have many positives comments about our situation.
Noticed that all the other managers with a club in trouble cancelled their xmas party? Why haven't we cancelled? You can't be seen to be enjoying yourself claiming you've worked hard all year if you've been relagated and you're now sat 15th in the championship with 1 win in 9? Another topic. I was talking to John Jensen in manchester airport the other the day. He didn't have many positives comments about our situation. chez rover
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12:21pm Wed 19 Dec 12

sonny says...

PAUL AGNEW WANTS SACKING IMMEDIATELY for yet again letting this nonsense get into papers,(but realistically we all know he's the one doing the leaking).
PAUL AGNEW WANTS SACKING IMMEDIATELY for yet again letting this nonsense get into papers,(but realistically we all know he's the one doing the leaking). sonny
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12:21pm Wed 19 Dec 12

forever-a-blue-jean says...

How on Earth do these little stories keep getting leaked into the press? Its just like last season, all undermines different people at the club. We have a sole survivor of Team Kean and that is the Cheerleader, come PR or Communications Director.

I would bet money (and Im not a gambling type of lady) that he is behind the stories.

He needs to go to stop the poison.
How on Earth do these little stories keep getting leaked into the press? Its just like last season, all undermines different people at the club. We have a sole survivor of Team Kean and that is the Cheerleader, come PR or Communications Director. I would bet money (and Im not a gambling type of lady) that he is behind the stories. He needs to go to stop the poison. forever-a-blue-jean
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12:33pm Wed 19 Dec 12

fitz808 says...

Angry From Accrington wrote:
kazz wrote: I feel sorry for berg. Hes fighting a lost battle, i bet it was agnew who tried to put that wig on him. Maybe agnew was under strict instructions from a certain agent that cannot be named for legal reasons
And I have no sympathy whatsoever for Berg. Whilst he is clearly fighting a losing battle, it is a battle that he entered into willingly, with absolutely no credentials to do so. This episode, either illustrates his weakness as a leader or confirms that he is a figure of ridicule for the staff, as well as the fans. He needs to go and Shebby the Snake needs to follow him.
'absolutely no credentials' is a bit harsh. he has been a manager previously, and has also played at the top level for a number of years. limited experience maybe, but 'absolutely no credentials'...?
and surely this episode indicates some amount of strenght, rather than weakness. he seems to have said, 'yep i'll come up on stage and join in...' and then when he was asked to do something he thought inappropriate, he said 'absolutely not'. weakenss would have been caving in and being snapped wearing a santa hat and a look of embarassment / dejection on his face.
[quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kazz[/bold] wrote: I feel sorry for berg. Hes fighting a lost battle, i bet it was agnew who tried to put that wig on him. Maybe agnew was under strict instructions from a certain agent that cannot be named for legal reasons[/p][/quote]And I have no sympathy whatsoever for Berg. Whilst he is clearly fighting a losing battle, it is a battle that he entered into willingly, with absolutely no credentials to do so. This episode, either illustrates his weakness as a leader or confirms that he is a figure of ridicule for the staff, as well as the fans. He needs to go and Shebby the Snake needs to follow him.[/p][/quote]'absolutely no credentials' is a bit harsh. he has been a manager previously, and has also played at the top level for a number of years. limited experience maybe, but 'absolutely no credentials'...? and surely this episode indicates some amount of strenght, rather than weakness. he seems to have said, 'yep i'll come up on stage and join in...' and then when he was asked to do something he thought inappropriate, he said 'absolutely not'. weakenss would have been caving in and being snapped wearing a santa hat and a look of embarassment / dejection on his face. fitz808
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12:35pm Wed 19 Dec 12

AndyW says...

andybrfc wrote:
I applaud Henning for seeing the potential for photos being made public and used against him.

The real question for me is, who leaked the mail story to the press. ( someone with very good press contacts as it appeared very quickly)
And what is our PR director and pr company doing letting stories like this appear.....unless it suits there agenda perhaps?
100% correct.

Agnew has his own agenda and it is not one that suits Blackburn Rovers one bit.

The sooner he's out of our club, the better.
[quote][p][bold]andybrfc[/bold] wrote: I applaud Henning for seeing the potential for photos being made public and used against him. The real question for me is, who leaked the mail story to the press. ( someone with very good press contacts as it appeared very quickly) And what is our PR director and pr company doing letting stories like this appear.....unless it suits there agenda perhaps?[/p][/quote]100% correct. Agnew has his own agenda and it is not one that suits Blackburn Rovers one bit. The sooner he's out of our club, the better. AndyW
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12:48pm Wed 19 Dec 12

Stone Island: says...

we r longside burnley wrote:
haha what a bold c**t solbaken would have have done it what stopped this spotty cracked
Another semi - literate post, from the village IDIOT.
[quote][p][bold]we r longside burnley[/bold] wrote: haha what a bold c**t solbaken would have have done it what stopped this spotty cracked[/p][/quote]Another semi - literate post, from the village IDIOT. Stone Island:
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12:53pm Wed 19 Dec 12

Dukes says...

.MERRY CHRISTMAS Berg, I know your job is in line big time.

Why take the job in first place when you said venkys were bad owners.

VENKYS OUT
.MERRY CHRISTMAS Berg, I know your job is in line big time. Why take the job in first place when you said venkys were bad owners. VENKYS OUT Dukes
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12:53pm Wed 19 Dec 12

Bill Carson says...

...yet more unprofessional behaviour from our so-called management that simply humiliates the dwindling numbers of Rovers fans. I can see a sub 10k crowd on Saturday!
I do hope that the Global Advisor, PR Guru & Venkys are counting the empty seats!!
...yet more unprofessional behaviour from our so-called management that simply humiliates the dwindling numbers of Rovers fans. I can see a sub 10k crowd on Saturday! I do hope that the Global Advisor, PR Guru & Venkys are counting the empty seats!! Bill Carson
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12:58pm Wed 19 Dec 12

batesempire says...

Ray Gunn wrote:
i hope the party went ok and that you all had a great time at our expence....its been a difficult year for us fans too...but we cant afford a party due to paying your wages....MERRY CHRISTMAS Berg
Ray. I don’t think you will be paying the players wages as your £225.00 season ticket is for you to see the team play ( even though it is not good viewing at time moment). I am sure the venky chicken family will be more than happy if you was to pay maybe just one of our underperforming gems what do you think
[quote][p][bold]Ray Gunn[/bold] wrote: i hope the party went ok and that you all had a great time at our expence....its been a difficult year for us fans too...but we cant afford a party due to paying your wages....MERRY CHRISTMAS Berg[/p][/quote]Ray. I don’t think you will be paying the players wages as your £225.00 season ticket is for you to see the team play ( even though it is not good viewing at time moment). I am sure the venky chicken family will be more than happy if you was to pay maybe just one of our underperforming gems what do you think batesempire
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12:58pm Wed 19 Dec 12

batesempire says...

Ray Gunn wrote:
i hope the party went ok and that you all had a great time at our expence....its been a difficult year for us fans too...but we cant afford a party due to paying your wages....MERRY CHRISTMAS Berg
Ray. I don’t think you will be paying the players wages as your £225.00 season ticket is for you to see the team play ( even though it is not good viewing at time moment). I am sure the venky chicken family will be more than happy if you was to pay maybe just one of our underperforming gems what do you think
[quote][p][bold]Ray Gunn[/bold] wrote: i hope the party went ok and that you all had a great time at our expence....its been a difficult year for us fans too...but we cant afford a party due to paying your wages....MERRY CHRISTMAS Berg[/p][/quote]Ray. I don’t think you will be paying the players wages as your £225.00 season ticket is for you to see the team play ( even though it is not good viewing at time moment). I am sure the venky chicken family will be more than happy if you was to pay maybe just one of our underperforming gems what do you think batesempire
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1:00pm Wed 19 Dec 12

madrover says...

for god's sake get off berg's case give him a chance to stamp his own mark with his own players and then criticise if no better . Saturday is massive so i hope we can get behind the team for once
for god's sake get off berg's case give him a chance to stamp his own mark with his own players and then criticise if no better . Saturday is massive so i hope we can get behind the team for once madrover
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1:03pm Wed 19 Dec 12

pwl says...

vicn1956 wrote:
What did Shabby perform on stage?
Perhaps a song!
Ideas please.
I'll start with- "I'm the great pretender."
or
"Another one bites the dust."
Or "Send in the Clowns" or "We're on the Road to Nowhere"
[quote][p][bold]vicn1956[/bold] wrote: What did Shabby perform on stage? Perhaps a song! Ideas please. I'll start with- "I'm the great pretender." or "Another one bites the dust."[/p][/quote]Or "Send in the Clowns" or "We're on the Road to Nowhere" pwl
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1:08pm Wed 19 Dec 12

Captain Dreckley says...

This fiasco just shows what a shambles Singh and Venkys have turned our club into. Totally unprofessional in every aspect. How the hell is Berg expected to lead and manage a group of players when they can all remember him dancing up and down like a clown with a sock on his head. I am a manager and you need to command a degree of distance from your staff. Berg played the scenario perfectly, show your face at the Christmas party, stay sober then make a dignified exit and let your staff get on with it. Berg was looking to maintain the respect his role as manager dictates. Apologies Henning but this shower show no understanding or respect for our club and its heritage in their antics, sick of repeating myself but yet again it has to be said, it wouldn't have happened on John Williams watch. I don't think any genuine Rovers fan would be dismayed if Berg walked after this humiliation that very quickly hit the press.
This fiasco just shows what a shambles Singh and Venkys have turned our club into. Totally unprofessional in every aspect. How the hell is Berg expected to lead and manage a group of players when they can all remember him dancing up and down like a clown with a sock on his head. I am a manager and you need to command a degree of distance from your staff. Berg played the scenario perfectly, show your face at the Christmas party, stay sober then make a dignified exit and let your staff get on with it. Berg was looking to maintain the respect his role as manager dictates. Apologies Henning but this shower show no understanding or respect for our club and its heritage in their antics, sick of repeating myself but yet again it has to be said, it wouldn't have happened on John Williams watch. I don't think any genuine Rovers fan would be dismayed if Berg walked after this humiliation that very quickly hit the press. Captain Dreckley
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1:12pm Wed 19 Dec 12

Angry From Accrington says...

fitz808 wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
kazz wrote: I feel sorry for berg. Hes fighting a lost battle, i bet it was agnew who tried to put that wig on him. Maybe agnew was under strict instructions from a certain agent that cannot be named for legal reasons
And I have no sympathy whatsoever for Berg. Whilst he is clearly fighting a losing battle, it is a battle that he entered into willingly, with absolutely no credentials to do so. This episode, either illustrates his weakness as a leader or confirms that he is a figure of ridicule for the staff, as well as the fans. He needs to go and Shebby the Snake needs to follow him.
'absolutely no credentials' is a bit harsh. he has been a manager previously, and has also played at the top level for a number of years. limited experience maybe, but 'absolutely no credentials'...? and surely this episode indicates some amount of strenght, rather than weakness. he seems to have said, 'yep i'll come up on stage and join in...' and then when he was asked to do something he thought inappropriate, he said 'absolutely not'. weakenss would have been caving in and being snapped wearing a santa hat and a look of embarassment / dejection on his face.
I understand your perspective but my point is that if the team and staff had the appropriate level of respect for him they would not have put him in that position in the first place.
I stand by the credentials piece. A failed management stint in Norway is no preparation for a task of this magnitude.
Merry Christmas
[quote][p][bold]fitz808[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kazz[/bold] wrote: I feel sorry for berg. Hes fighting a lost battle, i bet it was agnew who tried to put that wig on him. Maybe agnew was under strict instructions from a certain agent that cannot be named for legal reasons[/p][/quote]And I have no sympathy whatsoever for Berg. Whilst he is clearly fighting a losing battle, it is a battle that he entered into willingly, with absolutely no credentials to do so. This episode, either illustrates his weakness as a leader or confirms that he is a figure of ridicule for the staff, as well as the fans. He needs to go and Shebby the Snake needs to follow him.[/p][/quote]'absolutely no credentials' is a bit harsh. he has been a manager previously, and has also played at the top level for a number of years. limited experience maybe, but 'absolutely no credentials'...? and surely this episode indicates some amount of strenght, rather than weakness. he seems to have said, 'yep i'll come up on stage and join in...' and then when he was asked to do something he thought inappropriate, he said 'absolutely not'. weakenss would have been caving in and being snapped wearing a santa hat and a look of embarassment / dejection on his face.[/p][/quote]I understand your perspective but my point is that if the team and staff had the appropriate level of respect for him they would not have put him in that position in the first place. I stand by the credentials piece. A failed management stint in Norway is no preparation for a task of this magnitude. Merry Christmas Angry From Accrington
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1:17pm Wed 19 Dec 12

Navy-Rover says...

Stone Island: wrote:
we r longside burnley wrote:
haha what a bold c**t solbaken would have have done it what stopped this spotty cracked
Another semi - literate post, from the village IDIOT.
Love it when longside posts his drivel! If I was a Bonleh fan I'd be getting on his case to shut his illiterate mouth as he's an embarrassment to them all (one of many, I hasten to add!). Keep on posting longside, you're an excellent example of a typical Dingle :-P
[quote][p][bold]Stone Island:[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]we r longside burnley[/bold] wrote: haha what a bold c**t solbaken would have have done it what stopped this spotty cracked[/p][/quote]Another semi - literate post, from the village IDIOT.[/p][/quote]Love it when longside posts his drivel! If I was a Bonleh fan I'd be getting on his case to shut his illiterate mouth as he's an embarrassment to them all (one of many, I hasten to add!). Keep on posting longside, you're an excellent example of a typical Dingle :-P Navy-Rover
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1:18pm Wed 19 Dec 12

Rayzerisaloser says...

BERG OUT,do you think they were trying to tell him he is a clown? BERG OUT BERG OUT ANOTHER DEFEAT ON SATURDAY LOOMS
BERG OUT,do you think they were trying to tell him he is a clown? BERG OUT BERG OUT ANOTHER DEFEAT ON SATURDAY LOOMS Rayzerisaloser
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1:19pm Wed 19 Dec 12

pwl says...

Bill Carson wrote:
...yet more unprofessional behaviour from our so-called management that simply humiliates the dwindling numbers of Rovers fans. I can see a sub 10k crowd on Saturday!
I do hope that the Global Advisor, PR Guru & Venkys are counting the empty seats!!
I'm sure I'm right in saying that season ticket holders are counted as at the game regardless of whether they are there or not! So the true numbers of people staying away may be more than the figures suggest.
[quote][p][bold]Bill Carson[/bold] wrote: ...yet more unprofessional behaviour from our so-called management that simply humiliates the dwindling numbers of Rovers fans. I can see a sub 10k crowd on Saturday! I do hope that the Global Advisor, PR Guru & Venkys are counting the empty seats!![/p][/quote]I'm sure I'm right in saying that season ticket holders are counted as at the game regardless of whether they are there or not! So the true numbers of people staying away may be more than the figures suggest. pwl
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1:21pm Wed 19 Dec 12

vicn1956 says...

"The funky chicken (gibbon)."
"The funky chicken (gibbon)." vicn1956
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1:21pm Wed 19 Dec 12

Angry From Accrington says...

Captain Dreckley wrote:
This fiasco just shows what a shambles Singh and Venkys have turned our club into. Totally unprofessional in every aspect. How the hell is Berg expected to lead and manage a group of players when they can all remember him dancing up and down like a clown with a sock on his head. I am a manager and you need to command a degree of distance from your staff. Berg played the scenario perfectly, show your face at the Christmas party, stay sober then make a dignified exit and let your staff get on with it. Berg was looking to maintain the respect his role as manager dictates. Apologies Henning but this shower show no understanding or respect for our club and its heritage in their antics, sick of repeating myself but yet again it has to be said, it wouldn't have happened on John Williams watch. I don't think any genuine Rovers fan would be dismayed if Berg walked after this humiliation that very quickly hit the press.
Most Rovers fans would be delighted if Berg walked!
[quote][p][bold]Captain Dreckley[/bold] wrote: This fiasco just shows what a shambles Singh and Venkys have turned our club into. Totally unprofessional in every aspect. How the hell is Berg expected to lead and manage a group of players when they can all remember him dancing up and down like a clown with a sock on his head. I am a manager and you need to command a degree of distance from your staff. Berg played the scenario perfectly, show your face at the Christmas party, stay sober then make a dignified exit and let your staff get on with it. Berg was looking to maintain the respect his role as manager dictates. Apologies Henning but this shower show no understanding or respect for our club and its heritage in their antics, sick of repeating myself but yet again it has to be said, it wouldn't have happened on John Williams watch. I don't think any genuine Rovers fan would be dismayed if Berg walked after this humiliation that very quickly hit the press.[/p][/quote]Most Rovers fans would be delighted if Berg walked! Angry From Accrington
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1:25pm Wed 19 Dec 12

Brockhall Bob says...

No doubt Berg will say it's someone on Brockhall Village who leaked to the press again. Funny how that all went quiet after all the original fuss. We all have a good idea who it was and I don't think they live on Brockhall!!!
No doubt Berg will say it's someone on Brockhall Village who leaked to the press again. Funny how that all went quiet after all the original fuss. We all have a good idea who it was and I don't think they live on Brockhall!!! Brockhall Bob
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1:45pm Wed 19 Dec 12

merlinrabbit says...

chez rover wrote:
Noticed that all the other managers with a club in trouble cancelled their xmas party? Why haven't we cancelled? You can't be seen to be enjoying yourself claiming you've worked hard all year if you've been relagated and you're now sat 15th in the championship with 1 win in 9?

Another topic. I was talking to John Jensen in manchester airport the other the day. He didn't have many positives comments about our situation.
I think we could have all known that John Jensen wouldnt feel positive about Rovers without bumping into him at the airport. Didnt he give anything else away?
[quote][p][bold]chez rover[/bold] wrote: Noticed that all the other managers with a club in trouble cancelled their xmas party? Why haven't we cancelled? You can't be seen to be enjoying yourself claiming you've worked hard all year if you've been relagated and you're now sat 15th in the championship with 1 win in 9? Another topic. I was talking to John Jensen in manchester airport the other the day. He didn't have many positives comments about our situation.[/p][/quote]I think we could have all known that John Jensen wouldnt feel positive about Rovers without bumping into him at the airport. Didnt he give anything else away? merlinrabbit
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1:46pm Wed 19 Dec 12

FCBurnley says...

batesempire wrote:
Ray Gunn wrote:
i hope the party went ok and that you all had a great time at our expence....its been a difficult year for us fans too...but we cant afford a party due to paying your wages....MERRY CHRISTMAS Berg
Ray. I don’t think you will be paying the players wages as your £225.00 season ticket is for you to see the team play ( even though it is not good viewing at time moment). I am sure the venky chicken family will be more than happy if you was to pay maybe just one of our underperforming gems what do you think
Just a thought. Your 225 pounds season ticket will pay the wage of a 50k a week player or manager for less than 1 hour . 45 minutes to be exact.. Or put another way, You need to sell 11,555 season tickets to pay 1 x 50k per week salary.

And supporters wonder why football is in a mess !



I
[quote][p][bold]batesempire[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ray Gunn[/bold] wrote: i hope the party went ok and that you all had a great time at our expence....its been a difficult year for us fans too...but we cant afford a party due to paying your wages....MERRY CHRISTMAS Berg[/p][/quote]Ray. I don’t think you will be paying the players wages as your £225.00 season ticket is for you to see the team play ( even though it is not good viewing at time moment). I am sure the venky chicken family will be more than happy if you was to pay maybe just one of our underperforming gems what do you think[/p][/quote]Just a thought. Your 225 pounds season ticket will pay the wage of a 50k a week player or manager for less than 1 hour . 45 minutes to be exact.. Or put another way, You need to sell 11,555 season tickets to pay 1 x 50k per week salary. And supporters wonder why football is in a mess ! I FCBurnley
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1:48pm Wed 19 Dec 12

merlinrabbit says...

Angry From Accrington wrote:
Captain Dreckley wrote:
This fiasco just shows what a shambles Singh and Venkys have turned our club into. Totally unprofessional in every aspect. How the hell is Berg expected to lead and manage a group of players when they can all remember him dancing up and down like a clown with a sock on his head. I am a manager and you need to command a degree of distance from your staff. Berg played the scenario perfectly, show your face at the Christmas party, stay sober then make a dignified exit and let your staff get on with it. Berg was looking to maintain the respect his role as manager dictates. Apologies Henning but this shower show no understanding or respect for our club and its heritage in their antics, sick of repeating myself but yet again it has to be said, it wouldn't have happened on John Williams watch. I don't think any genuine Rovers fan would be dismayed if Berg walked after this humiliation that very quickly hit the press.
Most Rovers fans would be delighted if Berg walked!
and who do you expect will replace him? Id love to know that. Iv never thought HB was the right man but bearing in mind, they couldnt or wouldnt get anybody better, who do you think it a realistic replacement?
[quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Captain Dreckley[/bold] wrote: This fiasco just shows what a shambles Singh and Venkys have turned our club into. Totally unprofessional in every aspect. How the hell is Berg expected to lead and manage a group of players when they can all remember him dancing up and down like a clown with a sock on his head. I am a manager and you need to command a degree of distance from your staff. Berg played the scenario perfectly, show your face at the Christmas party, stay sober then make a dignified exit and let your staff get on with it. Berg was looking to maintain the respect his role as manager dictates. Apologies Henning but this shower show no understanding or respect for our club and its heritage in their antics, sick of repeating myself but yet again it has to be said, it wouldn't have happened on John Williams watch. I don't think any genuine Rovers fan would be dismayed if Berg walked after this humiliation that very quickly hit the press.[/p][/quote]Most Rovers fans would be delighted if Berg walked![/p][/quote]and who do you expect will replace him? Id love to know that. Iv never thought HB was the right man but bearing in mind, they couldnt or wouldnt get anybody better, who do you think it a realistic replacement? merlinrabbit
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1:49pm Wed 19 Dec 12

noddymcleod says...

If Berg stood on his dignity, then good for him. This time of year there's all kinds of uncouth, low taste clowning under the guise of "only having fun at the office party" Can you imagine Bill Shanks, Fergie, or anyone else pandering to being "one of the lads".
Quite right, Bergo, keep your distance.
As above, what are our PR doing ? Why don't they make a statement supporting the manager ? There's clearly an unhealthy atmosphere of Chinese whispers and briefings at Ewood.
What a shower we have.
If Berg stood on his dignity, then good for him. This time of year there's all kinds of uncouth, low taste clowning under the guise of "only having fun at the office party" Can you imagine Bill Shanks, Fergie, or anyone else pandering to being "one of the lads". Quite right, Bergo, keep your distance. As above, what are our PR doing ? Why don't they make a statement supporting the manager ? There's clearly an unhealthy atmosphere of Chinese whispers and briefings at Ewood. What a shower we have. noddymcleod
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1:54pm Wed 19 Dec 12

merlinrabbit says...

pwl wrote:
Bill Carson wrote:
...yet more unprofessional behaviour from our so-called management that simply humiliates the dwindling numbers of Rovers fans. I can see a sub 10k crowd on Saturday!
I do hope that the Global Advisor, PR Guru & Venkys are counting the empty seats!!
I'm sure I'm right in saying that season ticket holders are counted as at the game regardless of whether they are there or not! So the true numbers of people staying away may be more than the figures suggest.
You are right. The attendance given is from tickets sold + hospitality and not the numbers going through turnstiles therefore is always more than is true. I know a number of people with season tickets who now dont go regularly.
[quote][p][bold]pwl[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bill Carson[/bold] wrote: ...yet more unprofessional behaviour from our so-called management that simply humiliates the dwindling numbers of Rovers fans. I can see a sub 10k crowd on Saturday! I do hope that the Global Advisor, PR Guru & Venkys are counting the empty seats!![/p][/quote]I'm sure I'm right in saying that season ticket holders are counted as at the game regardless of whether they are there or not! So the true numbers of people staying away may be more than the figures suggest.[/p][/quote]You are right. The attendance given is from tickets sold + hospitality and not the numbers going through turnstiles therefore is always more than is true. I know a number of people with season tickets who now dont go regularly. merlinrabbit
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1:54pm Wed 19 Dec 12

Angry From Accrington says...

merlinrabbit wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
Captain Dreckley wrote: This fiasco just shows what a shambles Singh and Venkys have turned our club into. Totally unprofessional in every aspect. How the hell is Berg expected to lead and manage a group of players when they can all remember him dancing up and down like a clown with a sock on his head. I am a manager and you need to command a degree of distance from your staff. Berg played the scenario perfectly, show your face at the Christmas party, stay sober then make a dignified exit and let your staff get on with it. Berg was looking to maintain the respect his role as manager dictates. Apologies Henning but this shower show no understanding or respect for our club and its heritage in their antics, sick of repeating myself but yet again it has to be said, it wouldn't have happened on John Williams watch. I don't think any genuine Rovers fan would be dismayed if Berg walked after this humiliation that very quickly hit the press.
Most Rovers fans would be delighted if Berg walked!
and who do you expect will replace him? Id love to know that. Iv never thought HB was the right man but bearing in mind, they couldnt or wouldnt get anybody better, who do you think it a realistic replacement?
Ole Gunnar Solkjear: A SUCCESSFUL Norwegian manager.
[quote][p][bold]merlinrabbit[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Captain Dreckley[/bold] wrote: This fiasco just shows what a shambles Singh and Venkys have turned our club into. Totally unprofessional in every aspect. How the hell is Berg expected to lead and manage a group of players when they can all remember him dancing up and down like a clown with a sock on his head. I am a manager and you need to command a degree of distance from your staff. Berg played the scenario perfectly, show your face at the Christmas party, stay sober then make a dignified exit and let your staff get on with it. Berg was looking to maintain the respect his role as manager dictates. Apologies Henning but this shower show no understanding or respect for our club and its heritage in their antics, sick of repeating myself but yet again it has to be said, it wouldn't have happened on John Williams watch. I don't think any genuine Rovers fan would be dismayed if Berg walked after this humiliation that very quickly hit the press.[/p][/quote]Most Rovers fans would be delighted if Berg walked![/p][/quote]and who do you expect will replace him? Id love to know that. Iv never thought HB was the right man but bearing in mind, they couldnt or wouldnt get anybody better, who do you think it a realistic replacement?[/p][/quote]Ole Gunnar Solkjear: A SUCCESSFUL Norwegian manager. Angry From Accrington
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2:03pm Wed 19 Dec 12

Deeping Lad says...

My bet is that HB will be gone by the end of January and Brad Friedel will be asked to fill in as caretaker manager until the end of season,,,,
My bet is that HB will be gone by the end of January and Brad Friedel will be asked to fill in as caretaker manager until the end of season,,,, Deeping Lad
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2:07pm Wed 19 Dec 12

Keen O to Get Kean Out says...

Enough is enough , we need to get these embarassing idiots out of our club. We wont find a buyer due to the untold damage the T***s have done, but id rather be owned by proper folk and play in the Vauxhall Conf league than put money into this farce
Enough is enough , we need to get these embarassing idiots out of our club. We wont find a buyer due to the untold damage the T***s have done, but id rather be owned by proper folk and play in the Vauxhall Conf league than put money into this farce Keen O to Get Kean Out
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2:13pm Wed 19 Dec 12

merlinrabbit says...

Angry From Accrington wrote:
merlinrabbit wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
Captain Dreckley wrote: This fiasco just shows what a shambles Singh and Venkys have turned our club into. Totally unprofessional in every aspect. How the hell is Berg expected to lead and manage a group of players when they can all remember him dancing up and down like a clown with a sock on his head. I am a manager and you need to command a degree of distance from your staff. Berg played the scenario perfectly, show your face at the Christmas party, stay sober then make a dignified exit and let your staff get on with it. Berg was looking to maintain the respect his role as manager dictates. Apologies Henning but this shower show no understanding or respect for our club and its heritage in their antics, sick of repeating myself but yet again it has to be said, it wouldn't have happened on John Williams watch. I don't think any genuine Rovers fan would be dismayed if Berg walked after this humiliation that very quickly hit the press.
Most Rovers fans would be delighted if Berg walked!
and who do you expect will replace him? Id love to know that. Iv never thought HB was the right man but bearing in mind, they couldnt or wouldnt get anybody better, who do you think it a realistic replacement?
Ole Gunnar Solkjear: A SUCCESSFUL Norwegian manager.
I didnt ask you who you wanted, I asked who you expect they would replace him with, who was a realistic replacement? We can all reel off names but they arent realistic appointments.
[quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]merlinrabbit[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Captain Dreckley[/bold] wrote: This fiasco just shows what a shambles Singh and Venkys have turned our club into. Totally unprofessional in every aspect. How the hell is Berg expected to lead and manage a group of players when they can all remember him dancing up and down like a clown with a sock on his head. I am a manager and you need to command a degree of distance from your staff. Berg played the scenario perfectly, show your face at the Christmas party, stay sober then make a dignified exit and let your staff get on with it. Berg was looking to maintain the respect his role as manager dictates. Apologies Henning but this shower show no understanding or respect for our club and its heritage in their antics, sick of repeating myself but yet again it has to be said, it wouldn't have happened on John Williams watch. I don't think any genuine Rovers fan would be dismayed if Berg walked after this humiliation that very quickly hit the press.[/p][/quote]Most Rovers fans would be delighted if Berg walked![/p][/quote]and who do you expect will replace him? Id love to know that. Iv never thought HB was the right man but bearing in mind, they couldnt or wouldnt get anybody better, who do you think it a realistic replacement?[/p][/quote]Ole Gunnar Solkjear: A SUCCESSFUL Norwegian manager.[/p][/quote]I didnt ask you who you wanted, I asked who you expect they would replace him with, who was a realistic replacement? We can all reel off names but they arent realistic appointments. merlinrabbit
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2:15pm Wed 19 Dec 12

merlinrabbit says...

Deeping Lad wrote:
My bet is that HB will be gone by the end of January and Brad Friedel will be asked to fill in as caretaker manager until the end of season,,,,
Do you really think Friedel will take on that role after the dealings with the previous two managers and under the ridiculous management of Shebby and Venkys? I know he wouldnt. I still remember him shaking his head at the end of last season watching our fans protesting and saying "this used to be a family club". Too many Rovers fans are living in a dream world.
[quote][p][bold]Deeping Lad[/bold] wrote: My bet is that HB will be gone by the end of January and Brad Friedel will be asked to fill in as caretaker manager until the end of season,,,,[/p][/quote]Do you really think Friedel will take on that role after the dealings with the previous two managers and under the ridiculous management of Shebby and Venkys? I know he wouldnt. I still remember him shaking his head at the end of last season watching our fans protesting and saying "this used to be a family club". Too many Rovers fans are living in a dream world. merlinrabbit
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2:18pm Wed 19 Dec 12

j166429 says...

juanbbien wrote:
I don't blame Berg dressing up and acting the clown (we have enough of them as it is) is not everybodys cup of tea whether its Christmas or not okay have a laugh but lets have some bloody Respect and if the mans not comfortable with this situation why push it I'm sure there are plenty of other candidates down there willing to mess about,for they have been doing this all season,can't they get anything right,blimey there was never any of this in the past.
Totally agree.

For those saying Berg should lighten-up, can you imagine Alex Ferguson accepting this kind of thing?

As manager, and particularly at this moment in time, Berg has to remain professional and command respect.

If photos had come out with him acting the fool, the supporters would have been up in arms.
[quote][p][bold]juanbbien[/bold] wrote: I don't blame Berg dressing up and acting the clown (we have enough of them as it is) is not everybodys cup of tea whether its Christmas or not okay have a laugh but lets have some bloody Respect and if the mans not comfortable with this situation why push it I'm sure there are plenty of other candidates down there willing to mess about,for they have been doing this all season,can't they get anything right,blimey there was never any of this in the past.[/p][/quote]Totally agree. For those saying Berg should lighten-up, can you imagine Alex Ferguson accepting this kind of thing? As manager, and particularly at this moment in time, Berg has to remain professional and command respect. If photos had come out with him acting the fool, the supporters would have been up in arms. j166429
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2:21pm Wed 19 Dec 12

Angry From Accrington says...

merlinrabbit wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
merlinrabbit wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
Captain Dreckley wrote: This fiasco just shows what a shambles Singh and Venkys have turned our club into. Totally unprofessional in every aspect. How the hell is Berg expected to lead and manage a group of players when they can all remember him dancing up and down like a clown with a sock on his head. I am a manager and you need to command a degree of distance from your staff. Berg played the scenario perfectly, show your face at the Christmas party, stay sober then make a dignified exit and let your staff get on with it. Berg was looking to maintain the respect his role as manager dictates. Apologies Henning but this shower show no understanding or respect for our club and its heritage in their antics, sick of repeating myself but yet again it has to be said, it wouldn't have happened on John Williams watch. I don't think any genuine Rovers fan would be dismayed if Berg walked after this humiliation that very quickly hit the press.
Most Rovers fans would be delighted if Berg walked!
and who do you expect will replace him? Id love to know that. Iv never thought HB was the right man but bearing in mind, they couldnt or wouldnt get anybody better, who do you think it a realistic replacement?
Ole Gunnar Solkjear: A SUCCESSFUL Norwegian manager.
I didnt ask you who you wanted, I asked who you expect they would replace him with, who was a realistic replacement? We can all reel off names but they arent realistic appointments.
OGS is perfectly realistic. He has made it clear that he wants to manage in England, appreciates he will not walk straight into Premiership and is available now that Norwegian League is over. The only obstacle is Shebby the Snake.
[quote][p][bold]merlinrabbit[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]merlinrabbit[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Captain Dreckley[/bold] wrote: This fiasco just shows what a shambles Singh and Venkys have turned our club into. Totally unprofessional in every aspect. How the hell is Berg expected to lead and manage a group of players when they can all remember him dancing up and down like a clown with a sock on his head. I am a manager and you need to command a degree of distance from your staff. Berg played the scenario perfectly, show your face at the Christmas party, stay sober then make a dignified exit and let your staff get on with it. Berg was looking to maintain the respect his role as manager dictates. Apologies Henning but this shower show no understanding or respect for our club and its heritage in their antics, sick of repeating myself but yet again it has to be said, it wouldn't have happened on John Williams watch. I don't think any genuine Rovers fan would be dismayed if Berg walked after this humiliation that very quickly hit the press.[/p][/quote]Most Rovers fans would be delighted if Berg walked![/p][/quote]and who do you expect will replace him? Id love to know that. Iv never thought HB was the right man but bearing in mind, they couldnt or wouldnt get anybody better, who do you think it a realistic replacement?[/p][/quote]Ole Gunnar Solkjear: A SUCCESSFUL Norwegian manager.[/p][/quote]I didnt ask you who you wanted, I asked who you expect they would replace him with, who was a realistic replacement? We can all reel off names but they arent realistic appointments.[/p][/quote]OGS is perfectly realistic. He has made it clear that he wants to manage in England, appreciates he will not walk straight into Premiership and is available now that Norwegian League is over. The only obstacle is Shebby the Snake. Angry From Accrington
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2:42pm Wed 19 Dec 12

Gaz M says...

Stone Island: wrote:
we r longside burnley wrote:
haha what a bold c**t solbaken would have have done it what stopped this spotty cracked
Another semi - literate post, from the village IDIOT.
Dont be detrimental to village Idiots ,theres absolutely no reason to insult them by calling them Burnley fans!
[quote][p][bold]Stone Island:[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]we r longside burnley[/bold] wrote: haha what a bold c**t solbaken would have have done it what stopped this spotty cracked[/p][/quote]Another semi - literate post, from the village IDIOT.[/p][/quote]Dont be detrimental to village Idiots ,theres absolutely no reason to insult them by calling them Burnley fans! Gaz M
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2:47pm Wed 19 Dec 12

Keen O to Get Kean Out says...

Angry From Accrington wrote:
merlinrabbit wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
merlinrabbit wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
Captain Dreckley wrote: This fiasco just shows what a shambles Singh and Venkys have turned our club into. Totally unprofessional in every aspect. How the hell is Berg expected to lead and manage a group of players when they can all remember him dancing up and down like a clown with a sock on his head. I am a manager and you need to command a degree of distance from your staff. Berg played the scenario perfectly, show your face at the Christmas party, stay sober then make a dignified exit and let your staff get on with it. Berg was looking to maintain the respect his role as manager dictates. Apologies Henning but this shower show no understanding or respect for our club and its heritage in their antics, sick of repeating myself but yet again it has to be said, it wouldn't have happened on John Williams watch. I don't think any genuine Rovers fan would be dismayed if Berg walked after this humiliation that very quickly hit the press.
Most Rovers fans would be delighted if Berg walked!
and who do you expect will replace him? Id love to know that. Iv never thought HB was the right man but bearing in mind, they couldnt or wouldnt get anybody better, who do you think it a realistic replacement?
Ole Gunnar Solkjear: A SUCCESSFUL Norwegian manager.
I didnt ask you who you wanted, I asked who you expect they would replace him with, who was a realistic replacement? We can all reel off names but they arent realistic appointments.
OGS is perfectly realistic. He has made it clear that he wants to manage in England, appreciates he will not walk straight into Premiership and is available now that Norwegian League is over. The only obstacle is Shebby the Snake.
When Jack wanted a manger to win the Prem League he employed King Kenny , worked a treat.... Now that Chicken Flukers want to get back in the prem they appoint HB who has no experience OGS to has no experience... So this tells me by simple logic that appointing inexperienced managers is completely pointless and damaging
[quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]merlinrabbit[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]merlinrabbit[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Captain Dreckley[/bold] wrote: This fiasco just shows what a shambles Singh and Venkys have turned our club into. Totally unprofessional in every aspect. How the hell is Berg expected to lead and manage a group of players when they can all remember him dancing up and down like a clown with a sock on his head. I am a manager and you need to command a degree of distance from your staff. Berg played the scenario perfectly, show your face at the Christmas party, stay sober then make a dignified exit and let your staff get on with it. Berg was looking to maintain the respect his role as manager dictates. Apologies Henning but this shower show no understanding or respect for our club and its heritage in their antics, sick of repeating myself but yet again it has to be said, it wouldn't have happened on John Williams watch. I don't think any genuine Rovers fan would be dismayed if Berg walked after this humiliation that very quickly hit the press.[/p][/quote]Most Rovers fans would be delighted if Berg walked![/p][/quote]and who do you expect will replace him? Id love to know that. Iv never thought HB was the right man but bearing in mind, they couldnt or wouldnt get anybody better, who do you think it a realistic replacement?[/p][/quote]Ole Gunnar Solkjear: A SUCCESSFUL Norwegian manager.[/p][/quote]I didnt ask you who you wanted, I asked who you expect they would replace him with, who was a realistic replacement? We can all reel off names but they arent realistic appointments.[/p][/quote]OGS is perfectly realistic. He has made it clear that he wants to manage in England, appreciates he will not walk straight into Premiership and is available now that Norwegian League is over. The only obstacle is Shebby the Snake.[/p][/quote]When Jack wanted a manger to win the Prem League he employed King Kenny , worked a treat.... Now that Chicken Flukers want to get back in the prem they appoint HB who has no experience OGS to has no experience... So this tells me by simple logic that appointing inexperienced managers is completely pointless and damaging Keen O to Get Kean Out
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3:05pm Wed 19 Dec 12

Iiii1111 says...

Can only think Henning thought it was a Steve Kean lookalike prank...pre steve's BRFC time ofcourse....that had devastating effect on his hairline
Can only think Henning thought it was a Steve Kean lookalike prank...pre steve's BRFC time ofcourse....that had devastating effect on his hairline Iiii1111
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3:17pm Wed 19 Dec 12

MxMave says...

Another classic episode of BRFC.
Another classic episode of BRFC. MxMave
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3:22pm Wed 19 Dec 12

Keen O to Get Kean Out says...

Is it us lads or do other clubs have these experiences with their owners, were we spoilt with Uncle Jack ,,
Is it us lads or do other clubs have these experiences with their owners, were we spoilt with Uncle Jack ,, Keen O to Get Kean Out
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3:22pm Wed 19 Dec 12

Blackburn fans love horses says...

Brilliant - just brilliant entertainment.

Thanks to Shebby, Mrs Desai, Agent Ice and others and hope you all have a merry Xmas from your pals down the M65.

Thanks for the laughs
Brilliant - just brilliant entertainment. Thanks to Shebby, Mrs Desai, Agent Ice and others and hope you all have a merry Xmas from your pals down the M65. Thanks for the laughs Blackburn fans love horses
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3:41pm Wed 19 Dec 12

A Rover 45 years and over says...

You can not condem a man for taking his job seriously. This a massive task he has taken on along with all the finance, fans and his reputation at stake. Would you like to act like big pals and a clown around with people who stroll out every game and go through the motions just for the pay packet and at the same time are destroying the club. If we had just been promoted and won the Championship Title then that would be a different matter. But no we are going in the opposite direction therefore Henning get the idiots sorted out as they deserve, you did the right thing it's just a pitty you are not being supported properly by the shower that employ you. Please stick at it and survive as they are not capable of picking any suitable manager or giving him the correct support as the club is riddled with all the wrong people. Get some results and the fans will get behind you no matter what.
You can not condem a man for taking his job seriously. This a massive task he has taken on along with all the finance, fans and his reputation at stake. Would you like to act like big pals and a clown around with people who stroll out every game and go through the motions just for the pay packet and at the same time are destroying the club. If we had just been promoted and won the Championship Title then that would be a different matter. But no we are going in the opposite direction therefore Henning get the idiots sorted out as they deserve, you did the right thing it's just a pitty you are not being supported properly by the shower that employ you. Please stick at it and survive as they are not capable of picking any suitable manager or giving him the correct support as the club is riddled with all the wrong people. Get some results and the fans will get behind you no matter what. A Rover 45 years and over
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3:44pm Wed 19 Dec 12

jennyspain says...

Ray Gunn wrote:
i hope the party went ok and that you all had a great time at our expence....its been a difficult year for us fans too...but we cant afford a party due to paying your wages....MERRY CHRISTMAS Berg
This is a stupid comment, the employees deserve a xmas party whether the team are poor or not, god help Rovers fans if we slump further down the leagues we will have something to really moan about then. Merry christmas
[quote][p][bold]Ray Gunn[/bold] wrote: i hope the party went ok and that you all had a great time at our expence....its been a difficult year for us fans too...but we cant afford a party due to paying your wages....MERRY CHRISTMAS Berg[/p][/quote]This is a stupid comment, the employees deserve a xmas party whether the team are poor or not, god help Rovers fans if we slump further down the leagues we will have something to really moan about then. Merry christmas jennyspain
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3:53pm Wed 19 Dec 12

RoverInRotterdam says...

1riversider wrote:
vicn1956 wrote:
What did Shabby perform on stage?
Perhaps a song!
Ideas please.
I'll start with- "I'm the great pretender."
or
"Another one bites the dust."
What about "What kind of fool am I?" Suit the moron down to the ground.
" Thick as a brick "
" The Winkers song " (missprint)"
" What kind of fool am I "
[quote][p][bold]1riversider[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]vicn1956[/bold] wrote: What did Shabby perform on stage? Perhaps a song! Ideas please. I'll start with- "I'm the great pretender." or "Another one bites the dust."[/p][/quote]What about "What kind of fool am I?" Suit the moron down to the ground.[/p][/quote]" Thick as a brick " " The Winkers song " (missprint)" " What kind of fool am I " RoverInRotterdam
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3:54pm Wed 19 Dec 12

moh says...

Angry From Accrington wrote:
merlinrabbit wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
Captain Dreckley wrote: This fiasco just shows what a shambles Singh and Venkys have turned our club into. Totally unprofessional in every aspect. How the hell is Berg expected to lead and manage a group of players when they can all remember him dancing up and down like a clown with a sock on his head. I am a manager and you need to command a degree of distance from your staff. Berg played the scenario perfectly, show your face at the Christmas party, stay sober then make a dignified exit and let your staff get on with it. Berg was looking to maintain the respect his role as manager dictates. Apologies Henning but this shower show no understanding or respect for our club and its heritage in their antics, sick of repeating myself but yet again it has to be said, it wouldn't have happened on John Williams watch. I don't think any genuine Rovers fan would be dismayed if Berg walked after this humiliation that very quickly hit the press.
Most Rovers fans would be delighted if Berg walked!
and who do you expect will replace him? Id love to know that. Iv never thought HB was the right man but bearing in mind, they couldnt or wouldnt get anybody better, who do you think it a realistic replacement?
Ole Gunnar Solkjear: A SUCCESSFUL Norwegian manager.
Solskaer did not want to come to Blackburn for personal reasons.
[quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]merlinrabbit[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Captain Dreckley[/bold] wrote: This fiasco just shows what a shambles Singh and Venkys have turned our club into. Totally unprofessional in every aspect. How the hell is Berg expected to lead and manage a group of players when they can all remember him dancing up and down like a clown with a sock on his head. I am a manager and you need to command a degree of distance from your staff. Berg played the scenario perfectly, show your face at the Christmas party, stay sober then make a dignified exit and let your staff get on with it. Berg was looking to maintain the respect his role as manager dictates. Apologies Henning but this shower show no understanding or respect for our club and its heritage in their antics, sick of repeating myself but yet again it has to be said, it wouldn't have happened on John Williams watch. I don't think any genuine Rovers fan would be dismayed if Berg walked after this humiliation that very quickly hit the press.[/p][/quote]Most Rovers fans would be delighted if Berg walked![/p][/quote]and who do you expect will replace him? Id love to know that. Iv never thought HB was the right man but bearing in mind, they couldnt or wouldnt get anybody better, who do you think it a realistic replacement?[/p][/quote]Ole Gunnar Solkjear: A SUCCESSFUL Norwegian manager.[/p][/quote]Solskaer did not want to come to Blackburn for personal reasons. moh
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3:56pm Wed 19 Dec 12

Return of the Magnificent se7en says...

I've heard about these parties in Burnley where someone asks you to fire ping pong balls from yer holes.
Much better to just stick to wearin a wig an doin the funky chicken. I'm with berg on this one
I've heard about these parties in Burnley where someone asks you to fire ping pong balls from yer holes. Much better to just stick to wearin a wig an doin the funky chicken. I'm with berg on this one Return of the Magnificent se7en
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3:56pm Wed 19 Dec 12

arrod baw says...

Haha,funny thread this,listen to yourselves.Time to start worrying about your next match not the xmas p*** up.lol and Shebby New Year.
Haha,funny thread this,listen to yourselves.Time to start worrying about your next match not the xmas p*** up.lol and Shebby New Year. arrod baw
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4:15pm Wed 19 Dec 12

cboyer says...

Angry From Accrington wrote:
fitz808 wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
kazz wrote: I feel sorry for berg. Hes fighting a lost battle, i bet it was agnew who tried to put that wig on him. Maybe agnew was under strict instructions from a certain agent that cannot be named for legal reasons
And I have no sympathy whatsoever for Berg. Whilst he is clearly fighting a losing battle, it is a battle that he entered into willingly, with absolutely no credentials to do so. This episode, either illustrates his weakness as a leader or confirms that he is a figure of ridicule for the staff, as well as the fans. He needs to go and Shebby the Snake needs to follow him.
'absolutely no credentials' is a bit harsh. he has been a manager previously, and has also played at the top level for a number of years. limited experience maybe, but 'absolutely no credentials'...? and surely this episode indicates some amount of strenght, rather than weakness. he seems to have said, 'yep i'll come up on stage and join in...' and then when he was asked to do something he thought inappropriate, he said 'absolutely not'. weakenss would have been caving in and being snapped wearing a santa hat and a look of embarassment / dejection on his face.
I understand your perspective but my point is that if the team and staff had the appropriate level of respect for him they would not have put him in that position in the first place.
I stand by the credentials piece. A failed management stint in Norway is no preparation for a task of this magnitude.
Merry Christmas
the guy has played under alex ferguson and kenny dalglish he will know a trick or 2 lets give him a chance any manager would struggle with this lot of lazy over paid average players
[quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fitz808[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kazz[/bold] wrote: I feel sorry for berg. Hes fighting a lost battle, i bet it was agnew who tried to put that wig on him. Maybe agnew was under strict instructions from a certain agent that cannot be named for legal reasons[/p][/quote]And I have no sympathy whatsoever for Berg. Whilst he is clearly fighting a losing battle, it is a battle that he entered into willingly, with absolutely no credentials to do so. This episode, either illustrates his weakness as a leader or confirms that he is a figure of ridicule for the staff, as well as the fans. He needs to go and Shebby the Snake needs to follow him.[/p][/quote]'absolutely no credentials' is a bit harsh. he has been a manager previously, and has also played at the top level for a number of years. limited experience maybe, but 'absolutely no credentials'...? and surely this episode indicates some amount of strenght, rather than weakness. he seems to have said, 'yep i'll come up on stage and join in...' and then when he was asked to do something he thought inappropriate, he said 'absolutely not'. weakenss would have been caving in and being snapped wearing a santa hat and a look of embarassment / dejection on his face.[/p][/quote]I understand your perspective but my point is that if the team and staff had the appropriate level of respect for him they would not have put him in that position in the first place. I stand by the credentials piece. A failed management stint in Norway is no preparation for a task of this magnitude. Merry Christmas[/p][/quote]the guy has played under alex ferguson and kenny dalglish he will know a trick or 2 lets give him a chance any manager would struggle with this lot of lazy over paid average players cboyer
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4:23pm Wed 19 Dec 12

George White Bread says...

Gaz M wrote:
Stone Island: wrote:
we r longside burnley wrote:
haha what a bold c**t solbaken would have have done it what stopped this spotty cracked
Another semi - literate post, from the village IDIOT.
Dont be detrimental to village Idiots ,theres absolutely no reason to insult them by calling them Burnley fans!
Leave the poor lad alone, it's a job isn't it ? !!!
[quote][p][bold]Gaz M[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stone Island:[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]we r longside burnley[/bold] wrote: haha what a bold c**t solbaken would have have done it what stopped this spotty cracked[/p][/quote]Another semi - literate post, from the village IDIOT.[/p][/quote]Dont be detrimental to village Idiots ,theres absolutely no reason to insult them by calling them Burnley fans![/p][/quote]Leave the poor lad alone, it's a job isn't it ? !!! George White Bread
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4:25pm Wed 19 Dec 12

makaveli96 says...

Why would anyone go out and not drink?

What's the point!
Why would anyone go out and not drink? What's the point! makaveli96
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4:34pm Wed 19 Dec 12

George White Bread says...

Blackburn fans love horses wrote:
Brilliant - just brilliant entertainment.

Thanks to Shebby, Mrs Desai, Agent Ice and others and hope you all have a merry Xmas from your pals down the M65.

Thanks for the laughs
Laughs from the club that just keeps on giving comedy to the football world. Coco the clown is sending his CV off to see if he can get in on the action down at the Ewood and Bucket comedy club. Next live performance this saturday again Brighton 3 pm.
[quote][p][bold]Blackburn fans love horses[/bold] wrote: Brilliant - just brilliant entertainment. Thanks to Shebby, Mrs Desai, Agent Ice and others and hope you all have a merry Xmas from your pals down the M65. Thanks for the laughs[/p][/quote]Laughs from the club that just keeps on giving comedy to the football world. Coco the clown is sending his CV off to see if he can get in on the action down at the Ewood and Bucket comedy club. Next live performance this saturday again Brighton 3 pm. George White Bread
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4:34pm Wed 19 Dec 12

juanbbien says...

makaveli96 wrote:
Why would anyone go out and not drink?

What's the point!
Maybe he doesn't like alcohol,contrary to public perception it is possible to enjoy Yourself without being full of booze.
[quote][p][bold]makaveli96[/bold] wrote: Why would anyone go out and not drink? What's the point![/p][/quote]Maybe he doesn't like alcohol,contrary to public perception it is possible to enjoy Yourself without being full of booze. juanbbien
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4:37pm Wed 19 Dec 12

Rayzerisaloser says...

makaveli96 wrote:
Why would anyone go out and not drink?

What's the point!
Yes I know,they should get hammered maybe they could play better
[quote][p][bold]makaveli96[/bold] wrote: Why would anyone go out and not drink? What's the point![/p][/quote]Yes I know,they should get hammered maybe they could play better Rayzerisaloser
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4:38pm Wed 19 Dec 12

George White Bread says...

makaveli96 wrote:
Why would anyone go out and not drink?

What's the point!
For the first time I am in total agreement with a Rovers fan.

You're spot on Makaveli, it's like odourless garlic, what is the point ?
[quote][p][bold]makaveli96[/bold] wrote: Why would anyone go out and not drink? What's the point![/p][/quote]For the first time I am in total agreement with a Rovers fan. You're spot on Makaveli, it's like odourless garlic, what is the point ? George White Bread
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4:53pm Wed 19 Dec 12

owd nick says...

j166429 wrote:
juanbbien wrote:
I don't blame Berg dressing up and acting the clown (we have enough of them as it is) is not everybodys cup of tea whether its Christmas or not okay have a laugh but lets have some bloody Respect and if the mans not comfortable with this situation why push it I'm sure there are plenty of other candidates down there willing to mess about,for they have been doing this all season,can't they get anything right,blimey there was never any of this in the past.
Totally agree.

For those saying Berg should lighten-up, can you imagine Alex Ferguson accepting this kind of thing?

As manager, and particularly at this moment in time, Berg has to remain professional and command respect.

If photos had come out with him acting the fool, the supporters would have been up in arms.
Totally agree, this looks like a set up to me and if Berg is anything of a manager he will hopefully have sorted it out quickly and quietly at the first opportunity.

Perhaps he is actually trying to change things and certain people don't want him to succeed.
[quote][p][bold]j166429[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]juanbbien[/bold] wrote: I don't blame Berg dressing up and acting the clown (we have enough of them as it is) is not everybodys cup of tea whether its Christmas or not okay have a laugh but lets have some bloody Respect and if the mans not comfortable with this situation why push it I'm sure there are plenty of other candidates down there willing to mess about,for they have been doing this all season,can't they get anything right,blimey there was never any of this in the past.[/p][/quote]Totally agree. For those saying Berg should lighten-up, can you imagine Alex Ferguson accepting this kind of thing? As manager, and particularly at this moment in time, Berg has to remain professional and command respect. If photos had come out with him acting the fool, the supporters would have been up in arms.[/p][/quote]Totally agree, this looks like a set up to me and if Berg is anything of a manager he will hopefully have sorted it out quickly and quietly at the first opportunity. Perhaps he is actually trying to change things and certain people don't want him to succeed. owd nick
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4:56pm Wed 19 Dec 12

blueblooded says...

moh wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
merlinrabbit wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
Captain Dreckley wrote: This fiasco just shows what a shambles Singh and Venkys have turned our club into. Totally unprofessional in every aspect. How the hell is Berg expected to lead and manage a group of players when they can all remember him dancing up and down like a clown with a sock on his head. I am a manager and you need to command a degree of distance from your staff. Berg played the scenario perfectly, show your face at the Christmas party, stay sober then make a dignified exit and let your staff get on with it. Berg was looking to maintain the respect his role as manager dictates. Apologies Henning but this shower show no understanding or respect for our club and its heritage in their antics, sick of repeating myself but yet again it has to be said, it wouldn't have happened on John Williams watch. I don't think any genuine Rovers fan would be dismayed if Berg walked after this humiliation that very quickly hit the press.
Most Rovers fans would be delighted if Berg walked!
and who do you expect will replace him? Id love to know that. Iv never thought HB was the right man but bearing in mind, they couldnt or wouldnt get anybody better, who do you think it a realistic replacement?
Ole Gunnar Solkjear: A SUCCESSFUL Norwegian manager.
Solskaer did not want to come to Blackburn for personal reasons.
Yeah, he didnt fancy getting boo-ed after losing a few games. Understandable really.
[quote][p][bold]moh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]merlinrabbit[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Captain Dreckley[/bold] wrote: This fiasco just shows what a shambles Singh and Venkys have turned our club into. Totally unprofessional in every aspect. How the hell is Berg expected to lead and manage a group of players when they can all remember him dancing up and down like a clown with a sock on his head. I am a manager and you need to command a degree of distance from your staff. Berg played the scenario perfectly, show your face at the Christmas party, stay sober then make a dignified exit and let your staff get on with it. Berg was looking to maintain the respect his role as manager dictates. Apologies Henning but this shower show no understanding or respect for our club and its heritage in their antics, sick of repeating myself but yet again it has to be said, it wouldn't have happened on John Williams watch. I don't think any genuine Rovers fan would be dismayed if Berg walked after this humiliation that very quickly hit the press.[/p][/quote]Most Rovers fans would be delighted if Berg walked![/p][/quote]and who do you expect will replace him? Id love to know that. Iv never thought HB was the right man but bearing in mind, they couldnt or wouldnt get anybody better, who do you think it a realistic replacement?[/p][/quote]Ole Gunnar Solkjear: A SUCCESSFUL Norwegian manager.[/p][/quote]Solskaer did not want to come to Blackburn for personal reasons.[/p][/quote]Yeah, he didnt fancy getting boo-ed after losing a few games. Understandable really. blueblooded
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5:03pm Wed 19 Dec 12

blueblooded says...

FCBurnley wrote:
batesempire wrote:
Ray Gunn wrote:
i hope the party went ok and that you all had a great time at our expence....its been a difficult year for us fans too...but we cant afford a party due to paying your wages....MERRY CHRISTMAS Berg
Ray. I don’t think you will be paying the players wages as your £225.00 season ticket is for you to see the team play ( even though it is not good viewing at time moment). I am sure the venky chicken family will be more than happy if you was to pay maybe just one of our underperforming gems what do you think
Just a thought. Your 225 pounds season ticket will pay the wage of a 50k a week player or manager for less than 1 hour . 45 minutes to be exact.. Or put another way, You need to sell 11,555 season tickets to pay 1 x 50k per week salary.

And supporters wonder why football is in a mess !



I
Spot on.

I think people really over-inflate the value of the financial impact the season ticket makes these days. Its a drop in the ocean compared to the wages that get paid.

Right now its more important to fill the terraces for moral reasons if anything.
[quote][p][bold]FCBurnley[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]batesempire[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ray Gunn[/bold] wrote: i hope the party went ok and that you all had a great time at our expence....its been a difficult year for us fans too...but we cant afford a party due to paying your wages....MERRY CHRISTMAS Berg[/p][/quote]Ray. I don’t think you will be paying the players wages as your £225.00 season ticket is for you to see the team play ( even though it is not good viewing at time moment). I am sure the venky chicken family will be more than happy if you was to pay maybe just one of our underperforming gems what do you think[/p][/quote]Just a thought. Your 225 pounds season ticket will pay the wage of a 50k a week player or manager for less than 1 hour . 45 minutes to be exact.. Or put another way, You need to sell 11,555 season tickets to pay 1 x 50k per week salary. And supporters wonder why football is in a mess ! I[/p][/quote]Spot on. I think people really over-inflate the value of the financial impact the season ticket makes these days. Its a drop in the ocean compared to the wages that get paid. Right now its more important to fill the terraces for moral reasons if anything. blueblooded
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5:35pm Wed 19 Dec 12

Arthur Labore says...

Agnew/Singh Out! what on earth are they thinking about letting the manager get involved in this nonsense and letting this story hit the papers!
MORONS,The circus goes on.
Agnew/Singh Out! what on earth are they thinking about letting the manager get involved in this nonsense and letting this story hit the papers! MORONS,The circus goes on. Arthur Labore
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6:02pm Wed 19 Dec 12

merlinrabbit says...

George White Bread wrote:
Blackburn fans love horses wrote:
Brilliant - just brilliant entertainment.

Thanks to Shebby, Mrs Desai, Agent Ice and others and hope you all have a merry Xmas from your pals down the M65.

Thanks for the laughs
Laughs from the club that just keeps on giving comedy to the football world. Coco the clown is sending his CV off to see if he can get in on the action down at the Ewood and Bucket comedy club. Next live performance this saturday again Brighton 3 pm.
Be thankful. You and your mate wouldnt have anything to read or write about would you? There's obviously nothing noteworthy going on at Burnley as you are on here and not on the Burnley news columns
[quote][p][bold]George White Bread[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Blackburn fans love horses[/bold] wrote: Brilliant - just brilliant entertainment. Thanks to Shebby, Mrs Desai, Agent Ice and others and hope you all have a merry Xmas from your pals down the M65. Thanks for the laughs[/p][/quote]Laughs from the club that just keeps on giving comedy to the football world. Coco the clown is sending his CV off to see if he can get in on the action down at the Ewood and Bucket comedy club. Next live performance this saturday again Brighton 3 pm.[/p][/quote]Be thankful. You and your mate wouldnt have anything to read or write about would you? There's obviously nothing noteworthy going on at Burnley as you are on here and not on the Burnley news columns merlinrabbit
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6:19pm Wed 19 Dec 12

George White Bread says...

merlinrabbit wrote:
George White Bread wrote:
Blackburn fans love horses wrote:
Brilliant - just brilliant entertainment.

Thanks to Shebby, Mrs Desai, Agent Ice and others and hope you all have a merry Xmas from your pals down the M65.

Thanks for the laughs
Laughs from the club that just keeps on giving comedy to the football world. Coco the clown is sending his CV off to see if he can get in on the action down at the Ewood and Bucket comedy club. Next live performance this saturday again Brighton 3 pm.
Be thankful. You and your mate wouldnt have anything to read or write about would you? There's obviously nothing noteworthy going on at Burnley as you are on here and not on the Burnley news columns
This is far more fun you wascley wabbit! :)
[quote][p][bold]merlinrabbit[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]George White Bread[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Blackburn fans love horses[/bold] wrote: Brilliant - just brilliant entertainment. Thanks to Shebby, Mrs Desai, Agent Ice and others and hope you all have a merry Xmas from your pals down the M65. Thanks for the laughs[/p][/quote]Laughs from the club that just keeps on giving comedy to the football world. Coco the clown is sending his CV off to see if he can get in on the action down at the Ewood and Bucket comedy club. Next live performance this saturday again Brighton 3 pm.[/p][/quote]Be thankful. You and your mate wouldnt have anything to read or write about would you? There's obviously nothing noteworthy going on at Burnley as you are on here and not on the Burnley news columns[/p][/quote]This is far more fun you wascley wabbit! :) George White Bread
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6:24pm Wed 19 Dec 12

icannotrace says...

Arthur Labore wrote:
Agnew/Singh Out! what on earth are they thinking about letting the manager get involved in this nonsense and letting this story hit the papers!
MORONS,The circus goes on.
Let's face it PR at the club has been atrocious since Venkys took over. The club is rotten from the core. Berg was right with his original statement whilst he was a pundit but he should of backed up his words with action and never have taken on the job, so he only has himself to blame.

If I were you Henning I'd cut and run and I don't think anyone would blame you
[quote][p][bold]Arthur Labore[/bold] wrote: Agnew/Singh Out! what on earth are they thinking about letting the manager get involved in this nonsense and letting this story hit the papers! MORONS,The circus goes on.[/p][/quote]Let's face it PR at the club has been atrocious since Venkys took over. The club is rotten from the core. Berg was right with his original statement whilst he was a pundit but he should of backed up his words with action and never have taken on the job, so he only has himself to blame. If I were you Henning I'd cut and run and I don't think anyone would blame you icannotrace
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6:53pm Wed 19 Dec 12

hugofakenham says...

1riversider wrote:
vicn1956 wrote: What did Shabby perform on stage? Perhaps a song! Ideas please. I'll start with- "I'm the great pretender." or "Another one bites the dust."
What about "What kind of fool am I?" Suit the moron down to the ground.
how about The Beatles "Money" (that's what I want) or
"Gimme,Gimme,Gimme"
or "The Party's Over"
[quote][p][bold]1riversider[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]vicn1956[/bold] wrote: What did Shabby perform on stage? Perhaps a song! Ideas please. I'll start with- "I'm the great pretender." or "Another one bites the dust."[/p][/quote]What about "What kind of fool am I?" Suit the moron down to the ground.[/p][/quote]how about The Beatles "Money" (that's what I want) or "Gimme,Gimme,Gimme" or "The Party's Over" hugofakenham
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7:07pm Wed 19 Dec 12

hugofakenham says...

moh wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
merlinrabbit wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
Captain Dreckley wrote: This fiasco just shows what a shambles Singh and Venkys have turned our club into. Totally unprofessional in every aspect. How the hell is Berg expected to lead and manage a group of players when they can all remember him dancing up and down like a clown with a sock on his head. I am a manager and you need to command a degree of distance from your staff. Berg played the scenario perfectly, show your face at the Christmas party, stay sober then make a dignified exit and let your staff get on with it. Berg was looking to maintain the respect his role as manager dictates. Apologies Henning but this shower show no understanding or respect for our club and its heritage in their antics, sick of repeating myself but yet again it has to be said, it wouldn't have happened on John Williams watch. I don't think any genuine Rovers fan would be dismayed if Berg walked after this humiliation that very quickly hit the press.
Most Rovers fans would be delighted if Berg walked!
and who do you expect will replace him? Id love to know that. Iv never thought HB was the right man but bearing in mind, they couldnt or wouldnt get anybody better, who do you think it a realistic replacement?
Ole Gunnar Solkjear: A SUCCESSFUL Norwegian manager.
Solskaer did not want to come to Blackburn for personal reasons.
I'm sure Brian Laws could be tempted away from his current club with a decent offer from "The Pride of Lancashire" !!!!!

Or how about Mr. Bean : rhymes with Kean and knows as much or more about football than him or Berg.
[quote][p][bold]moh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]merlinrabbit[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Captain Dreckley[/bold] wrote: This fiasco just shows what a shambles Singh and Venkys have turned our club into. Totally unprofessional in every aspect. How the hell is Berg expected to lead and manage a group of players when they can all remember him dancing up and down like a clown with a sock on his head. I am a manager and you need to command a degree of distance from your staff. Berg played the scenario perfectly, show your face at the Christmas party, stay sober then make a dignified exit and let your staff get on with it. Berg was looking to maintain the respect his role as manager dictates. Apologies Henning but this shower show no understanding or respect for our club and its heritage in their antics, sick of repeating myself but yet again it has to be said, it wouldn't have happened on John Williams watch. I don't think any genuine Rovers fan would be dismayed if Berg walked after this humiliation that very quickly hit the press.[/p][/quote]Most Rovers fans would be delighted if Berg walked![/p][/quote]and who do you expect will replace him? Id love to know that. Iv never thought HB was the right man but bearing in mind, they couldnt or wouldnt get anybody better, who do you think it a realistic replacement?[/p][/quote]Ole Gunnar Solkjear: A SUCCESSFUL Norwegian manager.[/p][/quote]Solskaer did not want to come to Blackburn for personal reasons.[/p][/quote]I'm sure Brian Laws could be tempted away from his current club with a decent offer from "The Pride of Lancashire" !!!!! Or how about Mr. Bean : rhymes with Kean and knows as much or more about football than him or Berg. hugofakenham
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7:42pm Wed 19 Dec 12

globetrot says...

Apparently shabby went on stage and told the one 'three indians bought a football club'. As for the joke aimed at Berg, I think it was the bigwigs at the club.
Go Henning, good luck for the rest of season.
Apparently shabby went on stage and told the one 'three indians bought a football club'. As for the joke aimed at Berg, I think it was the bigwigs at the club. Go Henning, good luck for the rest of season. globetrot
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8:23pm Wed 19 Dec 12

merlinrabbit says...

hugofakenham wrote:
1riversider wrote:
vicn1956 wrote: What did Shabby perform on stage? Perhaps a song! Ideas please. I'll start with- "I'm the great pretender." or "Another one bites the dust."
What about "What kind of fool am I?" Suit the moron down to the ground.
how about The Beatles "Money" (that's what I want) or
"Gimme,Gimme,Gimme"
or "The Party's Over"
or 'When I rule the World' (Harry Secombe I think) or 'Take a Look at me Now' Phil Collins.
[quote][p][bold]hugofakenham[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]1riversider[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]vicn1956[/bold] wrote: What did Shabby perform on stage? Perhaps a song! Ideas please. I'll start with- "I'm the great pretender." or "Another one bites the dust."[/p][/quote]What about "What kind of fool am I?" Suit the moron down to the ground.[/p][/quote]how about The Beatles "Money" (that's what I want) or "Gimme,Gimme,Gimme" or "The Party's Over"[/p][/quote]or 'When I rule the World' (Harry Secombe I think) or 'Take a Look at me Now' Phil Collins. merlinrabbit
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8:26pm Wed 19 Dec 12

merlinrabbit says...

George White Bread wrote:
merlinrabbit wrote:
George White Bread wrote:
Blackburn fans love horses wrote:
Brilliant - just brilliant entertainment.

Thanks to Shebby, Mrs Desai, Agent Ice and others and hope you all have a merry Xmas from your pals down the M65.

Thanks for the laughs
Laughs from the club that just keeps on giving comedy to the football world. Coco the clown is sending his CV off to see if he can get in on the action down at the Ewood and Bucket comedy club. Next live performance this saturday again Brighton 3 pm.
Be thankful. You and your mate wouldnt have anything to read or write about would you? There's obviously nothing noteworthy going on at Burnley as you are on here and not on the Burnley news columns
This is far more fun you wascley wabbit! :)
Must be boring being a Burnley fan then.
[quote][p][bold]George White Bread[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]merlinrabbit[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]George White Bread[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Blackburn fans love horses[/bold] wrote: Brilliant - just brilliant entertainment. Thanks to Shebby, Mrs Desai, Agent Ice and others and hope you all have a merry Xmas from your pals down the M65. Thanks for the laughs[/p][/quote]Laughs from the club that just keeps on giving comedy to the football world. Coco the clown is sending his CV off to see if he can get in on the action down at the Ewood and Bucket comedy club. Next live performance this saturday again Brighton 3 pm.[/p][/quote]Be thankful. You and your mate wouldnt have anything to read or write about would you? There's obviously nothing noteworthy going on at Burnley as you are on here and not on the Burnley news columns[/p][/quote]This is far more fun you wascley wabbit! :)[/p][/quote]Must be boring being a Burnley fan then. merlinrabbit
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8:28pm Wed 19 Dec 12

merlinrabbit says...

owd nick wrote:
j166429 wrote:
juanbbien wrote:
I don't blame Berg dressing up and acting the clown (we have enough of them as it is) is not everybodys cup of tea whether its Christmas or not okay have a laugh but lets have some bloody Respect and if the mans not comfortable with this situation why push it I'm sure there are plenty of other candidates down there willing to mess about,for they have been doing this all season,can't they get anything right,blimey there was never any of this in the past.
Totally agree.

For those saying Berg should lighten-up, can you imagine Alex Ferguson accepting this kind of thing?

As manager, and particularly at this moment in time, Berg has to remain professional and command respect.

If photos had come out with him acting the fool, the supporters would have been up in arms.
Totally agree, this looks like a set up to me and if Berg is anything of a manager he will hopefully have sorted it out quickly and quietly at the first opportunity.

Perhaps he is actually trying to change things and certain people don't want him to succeed.
Do we actually know whether it was an exec or player who got him up on stage? Do you really think anybody down there has the guile to think such a plot through? It could have been one of the bar or catering staff who leaked that story.
[quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]j166429[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]juanbbien[/bold] wrote: I don't blame Berg dressing up and acting the clown (we have enough of them as it is) is not everybodys cup of tea whether its Christmas or not okay have a laugh but lets have some bloody Respect and if the mans not comfortable with this situation why push it I'm sure there are plenty of other candidates down there willing to mess about,for they have been doing this all season,can't they get anything right,blimey there was never any of this in the past.[/p][/quote]Totally agree. For those saying Berg should lighten-up, can you imagine Alex Ferguson accepting this kind of thing? As manager, and particularly at this moment in time, Berg has to remain professional and command respect. If photos had come out with him acting the fool, the supporters would have been up in arms.[/p][/quote]Totally agree, this looks like a set up to me and if Berg is anything of a manager he will hopefully have sorted it out quickly and quietly at the first opportunity. Perhaps he is actually trying to change things and certain people don't want him to succeed.[/p][/quote]Do we actually know whether it was an exec or player who got him up on stage? Do you really think anybody down there has the guile to think such a plot through? It could have been one of the bar or catering staff who leaked that story. merlinrabbit
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8:49pm Wed 19 Dec 12

bburnrover says...

Shebby could have done a Charlie Chaplin routine after all the real Charlie once appeared in the theatre that used to be on the boulevard behind the cathedral.Shebby evenresembles him and has turned Ewood into a kind of key stone cops venue since he arrived,
Shebby could have done a Charlie Chaplin routine after all the real Charlie once appeared in the theatre that used to be on the boulevard behind the cathedral.Shebby evenresembles him and has turned Ewood into a kind of key stone cops venue since he arrived, bburnrover
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9:07pm Wed 19 Dec 12

blueblooded says...

George White Bread wrote:
Blackburn fans love horses wrote:
Brilliant - just brilliant entertainment.

Thanks to Shebby, Mrs Desai, Agent Ice and others and hope you all have a merry Xmas from your pals down the M65.

Thanks for the laughs
Laughs from the club that just keeps on giving comedy to the football world. Coco the clown is sending his CV off to see if he can get in on the action down at the Ewood and Bucket comedy club. Next live performance this saturday again Brighton 3 pm.
Meanwhile in Bonleh.. A church bell rings in the distance as a tumbleweed rolls past in the wind.. Vultures circle a rotting carcass of what appears to be a Turdley fan, a faint movement of his urine stained claret top and clink of an empty bottle of white lightening, the only signs that he is alive.. But then this is Bonleh, where the natives celebrate defeat by improving the town..
[quote][p][bold]George White Bread[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Blackburn fans love horses[/bold] wrote: Brilliant - just brilliant entertainment. Thanks to Shebby, Mrs Desai, Agent Ice and others and hope you all have a merry Xmas from your pals down the M65. Thanks for the laughs[/p][/quote]Laughs from the club that just keeps on giving comedy to the football world. Coco the clown is sending his CV off to see if he can get in on the action down at the Ewood and Bucket comedy club. Next live performance this saturday again Brighton 3 pm.[/p][/quote]Meanwhile in Bonleh.. A church bell rings in the distance as a tumbleweed rolls past in the wind.. Vultures circle a rotting carcass of what appears to be a Turdley fan, a faint movement of his urine stained claret top and clink of an empty bottle of white lightening, the only signs that he is alive.. But then this is Bonleh, where the natives celebrate defeat by improving the town.. blueblooded
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9:11pm Wed 19 Dec 12

glynners says...

OGS turned down the Villa job in the Summer. While on earth do people believe he would have any interest in joining a relegated club that had sold all its best players?

Seriously theres some deluded fans around our club at the moment
OGS turned down the Villa job in the Summer. While on earth do people believe he would have any interest in joining a relegated club that had sold all its best players? Seriously theres some deluded fans around our club at the moment glynners
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9:26pm Wed 19 Dec 12

silverstan says...

we r longside burnley wrote:
haha what a bold c**t solbaken would have have done it what stopped this spotty cracked
What's that in English you thick **** dingle ??? Go play with your mother you no good plank !!!
[quote][p][bold]we r longside burnley[/bold] wrote: haha what a bold c**t solbaken would have have done it what stopped this spotty cracked[/p][/quote]What's that in English you thick **** dingle ??? Go play with your mother you no good plank !!! silverstan
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9:38pm Wed 19 Dec 12

French Rover says...

glynners wrote:
OGS turned down the Villa job in the Summer. While on earth do people believe he would have any interest in joining a relegated club that had sold all its best players?

Seriously theres some deluded fans around our club at the moment
if Berg left on his own accord or not - then the job at Rovers becomes almost untenable and unattractive and we would be looking at lower league applicants for our next manager and not the so called big and familiar names that were mentioned a couple of months ago. Doesn't bear thinking about - instead of approaching Man Utd for loan players we would be asking Halifax Town or Maidstone.......Back Berg!
[quote][p][bold]glynners[/bold] wrote: OGS turned down the Villa job in the Summer. While on earth do people believe he would have any interest in joining a relegated club that had sold all its best players? Seriously theres some deluded fans around our club at the moment[/p][/quote]if Berg left on his own accord or not - then the job at Rovers becomes almost untenable and unattractive and we would be looking at lower league applicants for our next manager and not the so called big and familiar names that were mentioned a couple of months ago. Doesn't bear thinking about - instead of approaching Man Utd for loan players we would be asking Halifax Town or Maidstone.......Back Berg! French Rover
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9:44pm Wed 19 Dec 12

Road Runner Road Runner says...

Good move Mr Berg...

Be a c@nt for no man.......

So it goes.....

Arte et labore
Good move Mr Berg... Be a c@nt for no man....... So it goes..... Arte et labore Road Runner Road Runner
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9:47pm Wed 19 Dec 12

leitchy says...

madrover wrote:
for god's sake get off berg's case give him a chance to stamp his own mark with his own players and then criticise if no better . Saturday is massive so i hope we can get behind the team for once
Well said..let's get back to football and concentrate on suppporting our team!!
[quote][p][bold]madrover[/bold] wrote: for god's sake get off berg's case give him a chance to stamp his own mark with his own players and then criticise if no better . Saturday is massive so i hope we can get behind the team for once[/p][/quote]Well said..let's get back to football and concentrate on suppporting our team!! leitchy
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9:56pm Wed 19 Dec 12

glynners says...

Not only does the prank sound a tad humiliating but slightly racist. I'd be more upset if I saw a photo of Berg "dressed" as Michael Jackson in this way.

Paul Agnew is the one who should be getting the stick here, the guy is scum

And as Berg Mentioned, we're in no position to party. We've got a season to turn around
Not only does the prank sound a tad humiliating but slightly racist. I'd be more upset if I saw a photo of Berg "dressed" as Michael Jackson in this way. Paul Agnew is the one who should be getting the stick here, the guy is scum And as Berg Mentioned, we're in no position to party. We've got a season to turn around glynners
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10:00pm Wed 19 Dec 12

leitchy says...

Berg demands respect...and that's the least he should b given!!

Well done Henning...keep up the good work, we all know its mission impossible but do your best and take no sh1t !!
Berg demands respect...and that's the least he should b given!! Well done Henning...keep up the good work, we all know its mission impossible but do your best and take no sh1t !! leitchy
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10:43pm Wed 19 Dec 12

burnleyglentoran says...

BRKFC - THE PANTOMIME THAT'S NOT JUST FOR XMAS!!!!
BRKFC - THE PANTOMIME THAT'S NOT JUST FOR XMAS!!!! burnleyglentoran
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10:49pm Wed 19 Dec 12

perolsman says...

The whole club has turned into a circus, the only thing that's missing is Shebby Singh in big wasted trousers and a red nose. **** Off Venkys, you are a disgrace to English Football.
The whole club has turned into a circus, the only thing that's missing is Shebby Singh in big wasted trousers and a red nose. **** Off Venkys, you are a disgrace to English Football. perolsman
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11:56pm Wed 19 Dec 12

Bazzer says...

French Rover wrote:
glynners wrote: OGS turned down the Villa job in the Summer. While on earth do people believe he would have any interest in joining a relegated club that had sold all its best players? Seriously theres some deluded fans around our club at the moment
if Berg left on his own accord or not - then the job at Rovers becomes almost untenable and unattractive and we would be looking at lower league applicants for our next manager and not the so called big and familiar names that were mentioned a couple of months ago. Doesn't bear thinking about - instead of approaching Man Utd for loan players we would be asking Halifax Town or Maidstone.......Back Berg!
Glynners you are spot on. The same deluded supporters called for the removal of Big Sam two years ago as we were not playing "Barcelona Style". The same deluded supporters trilled out lists of suitable managers, lists which included Guardiola, Hoddle, Benitez, Hughes, OGS, Schuster et al. The same deluded supporters who believed all we needed was a decent manager to galvanise the players we have now. It is a pity FR now uses the phrase "does not bear thinking about", because if ever "thinking about" was relevant it was two years ago. This has nothing to do with the abilities of Big Sams replacement(s) - it has everything to do with the biggest delusion of them all - that we were big and mighty enough to sack the likes of Big Sam at all.
[quote][p][bold]French Rover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]glynners[/bold] wrote: OGS turned down the Villa job in the Summer. While on earth do people believe he would have any interest in joining a relegated club that had sold all its best players? Seriously theres some deluded fans around our club at the moment[/p][/quote]if Berg left on his own accord or not - then the job at Rovers becomes almost untenable and unattractive and we would be looking at lower league applicants for our next manager and not the so called big and familiar names that were mentioned a couple of months ago. Doesn't bear thinking about - instead of approaching Man Utd for loan players we would be asking Halifax Town or Maidstone.......Back Berg![/p][/quote]Glynners you are spot on. The same deluded supporters called for the removal of Big Sam two years ago as we were not playing "Barcelona Style". The same deluded supporters trilled out lists of suitable managers, lists which included Guardiola, Hoddle, Benitez, Hughes, OGS, Schuster et al. The same deluded supporters who believed all we needed was a decent manager to galvanise the players we have now. It is a pity FR now uses the phrase "does not bear thinking about", because if ever "thinking about" was relevant it was two years ago. This has nothing to do with the abilities of Big Sams replacement(s) - it has everything to do with the biggest delusion of them all - that we were big and mighty enough to sack the likes of Big Sam at all. Bazzer
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3:20am Thu 20 Dec 12

Roverthere says...

I believe he was asked to dance to 'Puppet on a String' !
I believe he was asked to dance to 'Puppet on a String' ! Roverthere
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7:32am Thu 20 Dec 12

BeardwoodB says...

How humiliating for Berg.
He's walked into a difficult job, with a massive mish of a squad which has players with no confidence, some with no experience, some with huge ego's and all stuck to get her with the daily bulls h i t from one Shebby Singh.
Berg took this job for cash, but because he thought he remembered that he knew this club so well but sadly it's not even close to how it was.
If it was my decision, as a number 2, I'd bring in Souness but nobody will work with Shebby for more than a month.
How humiliating for Berg. He's walked into a difficult job, with a massive mish of a squad which has players with no confidence, some with no experience, some with huge ego's and all stuck to get her with the daily bulls h i t from one Shebby Singh. Berg took this job for cash, but because he thought he remembered that he knew this club so well but sadly it's not even close to how it was. If it was my decision, as a number 2, I'd bring in Souness but nobody will work with Shebby for more than a month. BeardwoodB
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8:32am Thu 20 Dec 12

chez rover says...

merlinrabbit wrote:
chez rover wrote: Noticed that all the other managers with a club in trouble cancelled their xmas party? Why haven't we cancelled? You can't be seen to be enjoying yourself claiming you've worked hard all year if you've been relagated and you're now sat 15th in the championship with 1 win in 9? Another topic. I was talking to John Jensen in manchester airport the other the day. He didn't have many positives comments about our situation.
I think we could have all known that John Jensen wouldnt feel positive about Rovers without bumping into him at the airport. Didnt he give anything else away?
Hey Merlin, no you miss read my post. He didn't seem to have any ill feeling or negative comments about Rovers. But when i asked him his thoughts on our situation he didn't really have much to say, he just sort of didn't answer. Then i said Venkeys haven't got a clue have they? To which he shuggred and shook his head. Couldn't really get much more out of him. Maybe he thought he was being filmed haha. He asked if i'd been to Blackpool and if it ended 1-0. to which i replied 2-0. He looked dissapointed. Thats it really. Maybe i asked the wrong questions
[quote][p][bold]merlinrabbit[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]chez rover[/bold] wrote: Noticed that all the other managers with a club in trouble cancelled their xmas party? Why haven't we cancelled? You can't be seen to be enjoying yourself claiming you've worked hard all year if you've been relagated and you're now sat 15th in the championship with 1 win in 9? Another topic. I was talking to John Jensen in manchester airport the other the day. He didn't have many positives comments about our situation.[/p][/quote]I think we could have all known that John Jensen wouldnt feel positive about Rovers without bumping into him at the airport. Didnt he give anything else away?[/p][/quote]Hey Merlin, no you miss read my post. He didn't seem to have any ill feeling or negative comments about Rovers. But when i asked him his thoughts on our situation he didn't really have much to say, he just sort of didn't answer. Then i said Venkeys haven't got a clue have they? To which he shuggred and shook his head. Couldn't really get much more out of him. Maybe he thought he was being filmed haha. He asked if i'd been to Blackpool and if it ended 1-0. to which i replied 2-0. He looked dissapointed. Thats it really. Maybe i asked the wrong questions chez rover
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8:33am Thu 20 Dec 12

Harwoodstblue says...

BeardwoodB wrote:
How humiliating for Berg.
He's walked into a difficult job, with a massive mish of a squad which has players with no confidence, some with no experience, some with huge ego's and all stuck to get her with the daily bulls h i t from one Shebby Singh.
Berg took this job for cash, but because he thought he remembered that he knew this club so well but sadly it's not even close to how it was.
If it was my decision, as a number 2, I'd bring in Souness but nobody will work with Shebby for more than a month.
Souness would be the one who would tell Singh, in no uncertain terms, to keep his nose out.

Unfortunately we have owners who wouldn't dream of employing anyone like Souness, for that very reason.
[quote][p][bold]BeardwoodB[/bold] wrote: How humiliating for Berg. He's walked into a difficult job, with a massive mish of a squad which has players with no confidence, some with no experience, some with huge ego's and all stuck to get her with the daily bulls h i t from one Shebby Singh. Berg took this job for cash, but because he thought he remembered that he knew this club so well but sadly it's not even close to how it was. If it was my decision, as a number 2, I'd bring in Souness but nobody will work with Shebby for more than a month.[/p][/quote]Souness would be the one who would tell Singh, in no uncertain terms, to keep his nose out. Unfortunately we have owners who wouldn't dream of employing anyone like Souness, for that very reason. Harwoodstblue
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10:08am Thu 20 Dec 12

owd nick says...

If Berg does go, and I don't think anyone could blame him if he did, we would be dead in the water, if we aren't already.

Because the message that sends out to any potential manager is "Don't go there".

We will end up with a yes man manager from the coaching staff when what we really need is someone to prize Shebby's claws from around Rovers throat..

You guys who are grumbling about Berg need to step back and think.

There isn't an experienced manager worth his salt who would want managing Rovers under Venky's on his CV, he would never work again.

I may not like BFS but he isn't stupid, he saw what was coming and engineered his way out of his contract.
If Berg does go, and I don't think anyone could blame him if he did, we would be dead in the water, if we aren't already. Because the message that sends out to any potential manager is "Don't go there". We will end up with a yes man manager from the coaching staff when what we really need is someone to prize Shebby's claws from around Rovers throat.. You guys who are grumbling about Berg need to step back and think. There isn't an experienced manager worth his salt who would want managing Rovers under Venky's on his CV, he would never work again. I may not like BFS but he isn't stupid, he saw what was coming and engineered his way out of his contract. owd nick
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10:39am Thu 20 Dec 12

wilpshireover says...

I think that it is about time the Lancashire Telegraph started acting responsibly and stopped publishing this sort of drivel - it may sell papers but it is not helping Rovers at all. Talk about a storm in a teacup. As we all know, the media in general is incapable of being sensible or responsible, and this article is typical of the twaddle put out by this newpaper. I bet Henning Berg does not read this type of thing in Norway, and he does not to have to defend such stupidity when he is trying to get the team sorted out.

I shall not bother to use this website or forum until we get some intelligent reporting.

One last point for readers to consider. I do not care what Colin Hendry has or has not done in his private life, and there has been far too much tripe on here that has been downright malicious and probably a cause for libel action in law. However, I thought - and I may wrong because I do not work at Ewood Park - that he was recruited to sort out the defence. Now judging by the last two games either he is not telling the players the right things, or if he is reading this, to be fair to you Mr Hendry, perhaps what you are saying it is not staying between the players ears. Either way, I have seen better defending in the conference. We cannot hope to succeed all the time the defence is shipping goals like we do. If we can sort the defence the rest should take care of itself.
I think that it is about time the Lancashire Telegraph started acting responsibly and stopped publishing this sort of drivel - it may sell papers but it is not helping Rovers at all. Talk about a storm in a teacup. As we all know, the media in general is incapable of being sensible or responsible, and this article is typical of the twaddle put out by this newpaper. I bet Henning Berg does not read this type of thing in Norway, and he does not to have to defend such stupidity when he is trying to get the team sorted out. I shall not bother to use this website or forum until we get some intelligent reporting. One last point for readers to consider. I do not care what Colin Hendry has or has not done in his private life, and there has been far too much tripe on here that has been downright malicious and probably a cause for libel action in law. However, I thought - and I may wrong because I do not work at Ewood Park - that he was recruited to sort out the defence. Now judging by the last two games either he is not telling the players the right things, or if he is reading this, to be fair to you Mr Hendry, perhaps what you are saying it is not staying between the players ears. Either way, I have seen better defending in the conference. We cannot hope to succeed all the time the defence is shipping goals like we do. If we can sort the defence the rest should take care of itself. wilpshireover
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10:40am Thu 20 Dec 12

Iiii1111 says...

Bazzer wrote:
French Rover wrote:
glynners wrote: OGS turned down the Villa job in the Summer. While on earth do people believe he would have any interest in joining a relegated club that had sold all its best players? Seriously theres some deluded fans around our club at the moment
if Berg left on his own accord or not - then the job at Rovers becomes almost untenable and unattractive and we would be looking at lower league applicants for our next manager and not the so called big and familiar names that were mentioned a couple of months ago. Doesn't bear thinking about - instead of approaching Man Utd for loan players we would be asking Halifax Town or Maidstone.......Back Berg!
Glynners you are spot on. The same deluded supporters called for the removal of Big Sam two years ago as we were not playing "Barcelona Style". The same deluded supporters trilled out lists of suitable managers, lists which included Guardiola, Hoddle, Benitez, Hughes, OGS, Schuster et al. The same deluded supporters who believed all we needed was a decent manager to galvanise the players we have now. It is a pity FR now uses the phrase "does not bear thinking about", because if ever "thinking about" was relevant it was two years ago. This has nothing to do with the abilities of Big Sams replacement(s) - it has everything to do with the biggest delusion of them all - that we were big and mighty enough to sack the likes of Big Sam at all.
Thanks for clearing that up Bazzer.....there's me thinking the demise of BRFC was down to Venkeys thier advisors and the management
team they employed during thier tenure....you've certainly opened my eyes and made me realise it's all the fault of the "deluded" supporters as you call them....

Keep on hoofing ;-)
[quote][p][bold]Bazzer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]French Rover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]glynners[/bold] wrote: OGS turned down the Villa job in the Summer. While on earth do people believe he would have any interest in joining a relegated club that had sold all its best players? Seriously theres some deluded fans around our club at the moment[/p][/quote]if Berg left on his own accord or not - then the job at Rovers becomes almost untenable and unattractive and we would be looking at lower league applicants for our next manager and not the so called big and familiar names that were mentioned a couple of months ago. Doesn't bear thinking about - instead of approaching Man Utd for loan players we would be asking Halifax Town or Maidstone.......Back Berg![/p][/quote]Glynners you are spot on. The same deluded supporters called for the removal of Big Sam two years ago as we were not playing "Barcelona Style". The same deluded supporters trilled out lists of suitable managers, lists which included Guardiola, Hoddle, Benitez, Hughes, OGS, Schuster et al. The same deluded supporters who believed all we needed was a decent manager to galvanise the players we have now. It is a pity FR now uses the phrase "does not bear thinking about", because if ever "thinking about" was relevant it was two years ago. This has nothing to do with the abilities of Big Sams replacement(s) - it has everything to do with the biggest delusion of them all - that we were big and mighty enough to sack the likes of Big Sam at all.[/p][/quote]Thanks for clearing that up Bazzer.....there's me thinking the demise of BRFC was down to Venkeys thier advisors and the management team they employed during thier tenure....you've certainly opened my eyes and made me realise it's all the fault of the "deluded" supporters as you call them.... Keep on hoofing ;-) Iiii1111
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10:44am Thu 20 Dec 12

wilpshireover says...

What a load of twaddle and a storm in a teacup, This may sell papers but does not help Rovers at all. I am not using this website or buying the LT until it starts reporting sensibly and intelligently.
What a load of twaddle and a storm in a teacup, This may sell papers but does not help Rovers at all. I am not using this website or buying the LT until it starts reporting sensibly and intelligently. wilpshireover
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11:27am Thu 20 Dec 12

Ryanb74 says...

Down, Down, Deeper and Down – I'm sure Shabby likes a bit of the Quo!
Down, Down, Deeper and Down – I'm sure Shabby likes a bit of the Quo! Ryanb74
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12:39pm Thu 20 Dec 12

Bazzer says...

Iiii1111 wrote:
Bazzer wrote:
French Rover wrote:
glynners wrote: OGS turned down the Villa job in the Summer. While on earth do people believe he would have any interest in joining a relegated club that had sold all its best players? Seriously theres some deluded fans around our club at the moment
if Berg left on his own accord or not - then the job at Rovers becomes almost untenable and unattractive and we would be looking at lower league applicants for our next manager and not the so called big and familiar names that were mentioned a couple of months ago. Doesn't bear thinking about - instead of approaching Man Utd for loan players we would be asking Halifax Town or Maidstone.......Back Berg!
Glynners you are spot on. The same deluded supporters called for the removal of Big Sam two years ago as we were not playing "Barcelona Style". The same deluded supporters trilled out lists of suitable managers, lists which included Guardiola, Hoddle, Benitez, Hughes, OGS, Schuster et al. The same deluded supporters who believed all we needed was a decent manager to galvanise the players we have now. It is a pity FR now uses the phrase "does not bear thinking about", because if ever "thinking about" was relevant it was two years ago. This has nothing to do with the abilities of Big Sams replacement(s) - it has everything to do with the biggest delusion of them all - that we were big and mighty enough to sack the likes of Big Sam at all.
Thanks for clearing that up Bazzer.....there's me thinking the demise of BRFC was down to Venkeys thier advisors and the management team they employed during thier tenure....you've certainly opened my eyes and made me realise it's all the fault of the "deluded" supporters as you call them.... Keep on hoofing ;-)
I do wish you would read things carefully and correctly. Can you point out where exactly I state the supporters removed Big Sam? My memory is that a loud and fair few called for and then applauded his dismissal.
Now we all know that you are a bit touchy, but careful reading should be a priority.
[quote][p][bold]Iiii1111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bazzer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]French Rover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]glynners[/bold] wrote: OGS turned down the Villa job in the Summer. While on earth do people believe he would have any interest in joining a relegated club that had sold all its best players? Seriously theres some deluded fans around our club at the moment[/p][/quote]if Berg left on his own accord or not - then the job at Rovers becomes almost untenable and unattractive and we would be looking at lower league applicants for our next manager and not the so called big and familiar names that were mentioned a couple of months ago. Doesn't bear thinking about - instead of approaching Man Utd for loan players we would be asking Halifax Town or Maidstone.......Back Berg![/p][/quote]Glynners you are spot on. The same deluded supporters called for the removal of Big Sam two years ago as we were not playing "Barcelona Style". The same deluded supporters trilled out lists of suitable managers, lists which included Guardiola, Hoddle, Benitez, Hughes, OGS, Schuster et al. The same deluded supporters who believed all we needed was a decent manager to galvanise the players we have now. It is a pity FR now uses the phrase "does not bear thinking about", because if ever "thinking about" was relevant it was two years ago. This has nothing to do with the abilities of Big Sams replacement(s) - it has everything to do with the biggest delusion of them all - that we were big and mighty enough to sack the likes of Big Sam at all.[/p][/quote]Thanks for clearing that up Bazzer.....there's me thinking the demise of BRFC was down to Venkeys thier advisors and the management team they employed during thier tenure....you've certainly opened my eyes and made me realise it's all the fault of the "deluded" supporters as you call them.... Keep on hoofing ;-)[/p][/quote]I do wish you would read things carefully and correctly. Can you point out where exactly I state the supporters removed Big Sam? My memory is that a loud and fair few called for and then applauded his dismissal. Now we all know that you are a bit touchy, but careful reading should be a priority. Bazzer
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1:14pm Thu 20 Dec 12

French Rover says...

Bazzer wrote:
French Rover wrote:
glynners wrote: OGS turned down the Villa job in the Summer. While on earth do people believe he would have any interest in joining a relegated club that had sold all its best players? Seriously theres some deluded fans around our club at the moment
if Berg left on his own accord or not - then the job at Rovers becomes almost untenable and unattractive and we would be looking at lower league applicants for our next manager and not the so called big and familiar names that were mentioned a couple of months ago. Doesn't bear thinking about - instead of approaching Man Utd for loan players we would be asking Halifax Town or Maidstone.......Back Berg!
Glynners you are spot on. The same deluded supporters called for the removal of Big Sam two years ago as we were not playing "Barcelona Style". The same deluded supporters trilled out lists of suitable managers, lists which included Guardiola, Hoddle, Benitez, Hughes, OGS, Schuster et al. The same deluded supporters who believed all we needed was a decent manager to galvanise the players we have now. It is a pity FR now uses the phrase "does not bear thinking about", because if ever "thinking about" was relevant it was two years ago. This has nothing to do with the abilities of Big Sams replacement(s) - it has everything to do with the biggest delusion of them all - that we were big and mighty enough to sack the likes of Big Sam at all.
Bazzer, you really have to get out of living in the past now and get back to the future (if there is one)! Although I ain't got any fancy flying delorean cars to get you there - I am sure there must be a horse drawn carriage or tram passes by the end of your cobbled street under the gas lamps? :)

Actually you know as well as I do that all the many problems that we have now do NOT have their roots in the fact that a few thousand Rovers fans openly displayed there dislike of the sorry excuse for football under BFS.

The root cause of ALL our sorrow is the sale of the Rovers to the Venkys.

Williams and Finn going, BFS, Samba, Nelson, Relegation, Kean... in fact everything we suffered from and are still suffering from stems from when the Venkys became owners.
[quote][p][bold]Bazzer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]French Rover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]glynners[/bold] wrote: OGS turned down the Villa job in the Summer. While on earth do people believe he would have any interest in joining a relegated club that had sold all its best players? Seriously theres some deluded fans around our club at the moment[/p][/quote]if Berg left on his own accord or not - then the job at Rovers becomes almost untenable and unattractive and we would be looking at lower league applicants for our next manager and not the so called big and familiar names that were mentioned a couple of months ago. Doesn't bear thinking about - instead of approaching Man Utd for loan players we would be asking Halifax Town or Maidstone.......Back Berg![/p][/quote]Glynners you are spot on. The same deluded supporters called for the removal of Big Sam two years ago as we were not playing "Barcelona Style". The same deluded supporters trilled out lists of suitable managers, lists which included Guardiola, Hoddle, Benitez, Hughes, OGS, Schuster et al. The same deluded supporters who believed all we needed was a decent manager to galvanise the players we have now. It is a pity FR now uses the phrase "does not bear thinking about", because if ever "thinking about" was relevant it was two years ago. This has nothing to do with the abilities of Big Sams replacement(s) - it has everything to do with the biggest delusion of them all - that we were big and mighty enough to sack the likes of Big Sam at all.[/p][/quote]Bazzer, you really have to get out of living in the past now and get back to the future (if there is one)! Although I ain't got any fancy flying delorean cars to get you there - I am sure there must be a horse drawn carriage or tram passes by the end of your cobbled street under the gas lamps? :) Actually you know as well as I do that all the many problems that we have now do NOT have their roots in the fact that a few thousand Rovers fans openly displayed there dislike of the sorry excuse for football under BFS. The root cause of ALL our sorrow is the sale of the Rovers to the Venkys. Williams and Finn going, BFS, Samba, Nelson, Relegation, Kean... in fact everything we suffered from and are still suffering from stems from when the Venkys became owners. French Rover
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1:24pm Thu 20 Dec 12

Iiii1111 says...

French Rover wrote:
Bazzer wrote:
French Rover wrote:
glynners wrote: OGS turned down the Villa job in the Summer. While on earth do people believe he would have any interest in joining a relegated club that had sold all its best players? Seriously theres some deluded fans around our club at the moment
if Berg left on his own accord or not - then the job at Rovers becomes almost untenable and unattractive and we would be looking at lower league applicants for our next manager and not the so called big and familiar names that were mentioned a couple of months ago. Doesn't bear thinking about - instead of approaching Man Utd for loan players we would be asking Halifax Town or Maidstone.......Back Berg!
Glynners you are spot on. The same deluded supporters called for the removal of Big Sam two years ago as we were not playing "Barcelona Style". The same deluded supporters trilled out lists of suitable managers, lists which included Guardiola, Hoddle, Benitez, Hughes, OGS, Schuster et al. The same deluded supporters who believed all we needed was a decent manager to galvanise the players we have now. It is a pity FR now uses the phrase "does not bear thinking about", because if ever "thinking about" was relevant it was two years ago. This has nothing to do with the abilities of Big Sams replacement(s) - it has everything to do with the biggest delusion of them all - that we were big and mighty enough to sack the likes of Big Sam at all.
Bazzer, you really have to get out of living in the past now and get back to the future (if there is one)! Although I ain't got any fancy flying delorean cars to get you there - I am sure there must be a horse drawn carriage or tram passes by the end of your cobbled street under the gas lamps? :)

Actually you know as well as I do that all the many problems that we have now do NOT have their roots in the fact that a few thousand Rovers fans openly displayed there dislike of the sorry excuse for football under BFS.

The root cause of ALL our sorrow is the sale of the Rovers to the Venkys.

Williams and Finn going, BFS, Samba, Nelson, Relegation, Kean... in fact everything we suffered from and are still suffering from stems from when the Venkys became owners.
Bazzer still blames his old fellow for telling him there wasn't a Santa when he was 25

Ho ho hoof
[quote][p][bold]French Rover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bazzer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]French Rover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]glynners[/bold] wrote: OGS turned down the Villa job in the Summer. While on earth do people believe he would have any interest in joining a relegated club that had sold all its best players? Seriously theres some deluded fans around our club at the moment[/p][/quote]if Berg left on his own accord or not - then the job at Rovers becomes almost untenable and unattractive and we would be looking at lower league applicants for our next manager and not the so called big and familiar names that were mentioned a couple of months ago. Doesn't bear thinking about - instead of approaching Man Utd for loan players we would be asking Halifax Town or Maidstone.......Back Berg![/p][/quote]Glynners you are spot on. The same deluded supporters called for the removal of Big Sam two years ago as we were not playing "Barcelona Style". The same deluded supporters trilled out lists of suitable managers, lists which included Guardiola, Hoddle, Benitez, Hughes, OGS, Schuster et al. The same deluded supporters who believed all we needed was a decent manager to galvanise the players we have now. It is a pity FR now uses the phrase "does not bear thinking about", because if ever "thinking about" was relevant it was two years ago. This has nothing to do with the abilities of Big Sams replacement(s) - it has everything to do with the biggest delusion of them all - that we were big and mighty enough to sack the likes of Big Sam at all.[/p][/quote]Bazzer, you really have to get out of living in the past now and get back to the future (if there is one)! Although I ain't got any fancy flying delorean cars to get you there - I am sure there must be a horse drawn carriage or tram passes by the end of your cobbled street under the gas lamps? :) Actually you know as well as I do that all the many problems that we have now do NOT have their roots in the fact that a few thousand Rovers fans openly displayed there dislike of the sorry excuse for football under BFS. The root cause of ALL our sorrow is the sale of the Rovers to the Venkys. Williams and Finn going, BFS, Samba, Nelson, Relegation, Kean... in fact everything we suffered from and are still suffering from stems from when the Venkys became owners.[/p][/quote]Bazzer still blames his old fellow for telling him there wasn't a Santa when he was 25 Ho ho hoof Iiii1111
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1:47pm Thu 20 Dec 12

juanbbien says...

Can nobody spell Nelsen not Nelson name right on here
Can nobody spell Nelsen not Nelson name right on here juanbbien
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5:23pm Thu 20 Dec 12

walshy2866 says...

Captain Dreckley wrote:
This fiasco just shows what a shambles Singh and Venkys have turned our club into. Totally unprofessional in every aspect. How the hell is Berg expected to lead and manage a group of players when they can all remember him dancing up and down like a clown with a sock on his head. I am a manager and you need to command a degree of distance from your staff. Berg played the scenario perfectly, show your face at the Christmas party, stay sober then make a dignified exit and let your staff get on with it. Berg was looking to maintain the respect his role as manager dictates. Apologies Henning but this shower show no understanding or respect for our club and its heritage in their antics, sick of repeating myself but yet again it has to be said, it wouldn't have happened on John Williams watch. I don't think any genuine Rovers fan would be dismayed if Berg walked after this humiliation that very quickly hit the press.
If Berg was a self thinking manager allowed to do it his way then fair enough but he's not, venkys & singh are pulling his strings and like many managers outside football desperate but not management material will @rse lick their way up.
2 decent managers I've worked for never needed to use the "I'm a manager" line. They commanded respect by their people skills and that naturally distanced them but in a respectful way, not by setting barriers.
You're way is more like Captain Mainwaring off Dads Army. A jumped up little know it all , desperate for recognition but who commanded no respect and whose underlings ripped the p1ss out of.
Todays managers are box ticking compliant figure jugglers , saying what satisfys those who ask the questions but with little or no substance to back it up
[quote][p][bold]Captain Dreckley[/bold] wrote: This fiasco just shows what a shambles Singh and Venkys have turned our club into. Totally unprofessional in every aspect. How the hell is Berg expected to lead and manage a group of players when they can all remember him dancing up and down like a clown with a sock on his head. I am a manager and you need to command a degree of distance from your staff. Berg played the scenario perfectly, show your face at the Christmas party, stay sober then make a dignified exit and let your staff get on with it. Berg was looking to maintain the respect his role as manager dictates. Apologies Henning but this shower show no understanding or respect for our club and its heritage in their antics, sick of repeating myself but yet again it has to be said, it wouldn't have happened on John Williams watch. I don't think any genuine Rovers fan would be dismayed if Berg walked after this humiliation that very quickly hit the press.[/p][/quote]If Berg was a self thinking manager allowed to do it his way then fair enough but he's not, venkys & singh are pulling his strings and like many managers outside football desperate but not management material will @rse lick their way up. 2 decent managers I've worked for never needed to use the "I'm a manager" line. They commanded respect by their people skills and that naturally distanced them but in a respectful way, not by setting barriers. You're way is more like Captain Mainwaring off Dads Army. A jumped up little know it all , desperate for recognition but who commanded no respect and whose underlings ripped the p1ss out of. Todays managers are box ticking compliant figure jugglers , saying what satisfys those who ask the questions but with little or no substance to back it up walshy2866
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6:17pm Thu 20 Dec 12

turd moor says...

there shouldn't of been a party full stop.rovers are in a **** position in the league,in danger of falling further and even through the trap door and there partying instead of getting things right on the training ground.

BERG OUT,SHEBBY OUT,VENKY'S OUT,AGNEW OUT
OGS IN,OIL GIANT'S IN,JOHN WILLIAMS IN.................
there shouldn't of been a party full stop.rovers are in a **** position in the league,in danger of falling further and even through the trap door and there partying instead of getting things right on the training ground. BERG OUT,SHEBBY OUT,VENKY'S OUT,AGNEW OUT OGS IN,OIL GIANT'S IN,JOHN WILLIAMS IN................. turd moor
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