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Clarets to back standing plans
10:45am Wednesday 12th December 2012 in Sport
By Suzanne Geldard, Burnley FC reporter
BURNLEY have given their backing to a scheme to re-introduce standing at football grounds, despite not yet being in a position to provide terraced areas themselves.
The Clarets are one of just 13 Football League clubs who have come out in support of a pilot scheme which aims to prove that standing, which was outlawed after the 1989 Hillsborough disaster, is now a safe way to watch the sport.
The Football Supporters’ Federation (FSF) is hoping that MPs will next week vote in favour for its plans for a small-scale trial at Premier League clubs, despite their opposition to the idea.
In a statement, the Premier League said they will “not be encouraging the Government to change the law”, adding: “Since the introduction of all-seater stadia the supporter experience has improved significantly and we have seen more diverse crowds attending Premier League matches, including more women and children.
“The police, safety officers and licensing authorities remain clear and have consistently informed us that crowd management has improved as a result of all-seater stadiums being in place in the top two divisions in this country.”
But Burnley chief executive Lee Hoos, pictured left, believesa return to standing would be good for football, and clubs should be more open minded to the idea.
“It’s not something clubs can currently do unless they are in League One or below, but would we support a change in legislation, absolutely!” he said, even though Turf Moor could not currently safely cater for a designated standing area.
“It’s difficult for us to implement it now in the lower blocks around the stadium because of the corporate boxes, and the rake around the upper tiers are too steep.
“We would have to spend a bit of time and money to make the necessary changes.
“But we are in favour of the idea.
“For one thing the fans, who are the customers, are the people who are clamouring for this, so you have to look at giving them what they want.
“We try to enforce the ground regulations when it’s safe to do so, and we would discourage people from standing, but if you looked around the ground at the Blackburn Rovers game, there wouldn’t have been many people sitting down.
“The majority of the ground was standing throughout.”
All-seater stadiums have been compulsory in the Premier League since 1994, following Lord Justice Taylor's report in response to the Hillsborough disaster, but Hoos added: “The Government should be looking at this seriously in terms of ‘can it be done safely?’.
“I’m not trying to open up old wounds but in other sports people stand all the time in seated areas.
“You go to concerts, where people often have quite a lot more to drink, and they are standing in seated areas.
“There are less restrictive means of crowd control, and with the stewarding and policing and CCTV inside grounds we have come a hell of a long way.”
Comments(19)
Return of the Magnificent se7en
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11:37am Wed 12 Dec 12
Chim Chiminee
fanny_tickler.
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1:09pm Wed 12 Dec 12
Return of the Magnificent se7en wrote:Possibly. How many were at Ewood to see Blackburn get spanked off Cardiff?
Great idea for Burnley, if they take the seats ot of one end, they could fit all 8000 in the same end and shut the other three sides, Then dick van dyke would have the audience in front of him so he can concentrate on doin the ol bamboo and gettin the steps right when he appears in mary poppins at christmas.
Chim Chiminee
TodClaret
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1:25pm Wed 12 Dec 12
The article encourages a discussion on terracing yet they still can't resist sticking their oars in
FCBurnley
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2:09pm Wed 12 Dec 12
swearengen
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4:25pm Wed 12 Dec 12
Harwoodstblue
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6:07pm Wed 12 Dec 12
TodClaret wrote:IT'LL SAVE YOU THE EXPENSE OF HAVING TO PUT PLASTIC SEATS IN EVENTUALLY THEN,
It's nothing for rovers fans to worry about as we are talking about crowd control. I've heard on the grapevine from their own fans that they haven't even sold their entire allocation for Blackpool on Saturday. Still, they are a "massive club" eh?
The article encourages a discussion on terracing yet they still can't resist sticking their oars in
Harwoodstblue
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6:10pm Wed 12 Dec 12
Harwoodstblue wrote:HAVE YOU GOT CENTRAL HEATING IN YOUR HOUSES YET.
TodClaret wrote:IT'LL SAVE YOU THE EXPENSE OF HAVING TO PUT PLASTIC SEATS IN EVENTUALLY THEN,
It's nothing for rovers fans to worry about as we are talking about crowd control. I've heard on the grapevine from their own fans that they haven't even sold their entire allocation for Blackpool on Saturday. Still, they are a "massive club" eh?
The article encourages a discussion on terracing yet they still can't resist sticking their oars in
sean_brfc
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6:28pm Wed 12 Dec 12
George White Bread
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8:28pm Wed 12 Dec 12
Harwoodstblue wrote:Are the horses still keeping the menfolk Blackburn warm?
Harwoodstblue wrote:HAVE YOU GOT CENTRAL HEATING IN YOUR HOUSES YET.
TodClaret wrote:IT'LL SAVE YOU THE EXPENSE OF HAVING TO PUT PLASTIC SEATS IN EVENTUALLY THEN,
It's nothing for rovers fans to worry about as we are talking about crowd control. I've heard on the grapevine from their own fans that they haven't even sold their entire allocation for Blackpool on Saturday. Still, they are a "massive club" eh?
The article encourages a discussion on terracing yet they still can't resist sticking their oars in
.....there there Dobbin, you munch on these sugar cubes while I put the step ladders up behind you.
Chico!
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10:13pm Wed 12 Dec 12
Think about it...all those dingles in their Farmfoods baked bean stained bought on the market tracksuits rubbing up next to each other would create enough static to be seen from space.
Like a chlamydia ridden, toothless, unemployed tesla coil.
Terrifying.
George White Bread
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12:17am Thu 13 Dec 12
Chico! wrote:What do you recommend for getting the stains out? No doubt you'll have removed many a Lidl basics range spaghetti hoop stain from your best "Scope" threads.
If Tarf Moo-er went all standing it would be a massive public safety risk.
Think about it...all those dingles in their Farmfoods baked bean stained bought on the market tracksuits rubbing up next to each other would create enough static to be seen from space.
Like a chlamydia ridden, toothless, unemployed tesla coil.
Terrifying.
You're just dying to come out as a Burnley fan aren't you?
C'mon, I'll buy you a half season ticket for Christmas !!!
Chico!
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8:18am Thu 13 Dec 12
George White Bread wrote:I wouldn't clean up dog dirt with a Bonleh season ticket. It'd be degrading to the barker's bab.
Chico! wrote:What do you recommend for getting the stains out? No doubt you'll have removed many a Lidl basics range spaghetti hoop stain from your best "Scope" threads.
If Tarf Moo-er went all standing it would be a massive public safety risk.
Think about it...all those dingles in their Farmfoods baked bean stained bought on the market tracksuits rubbing up next to each other would create enough static to be seen from space.
Like a chlamydia ridden, toothless, unemployed tesla coil.
Terrifying.
You're just dying to come out as a Burnley fan aren't you?
C'mon, I'll buy you a half season ticket for Christmas !!!
I'm pretty sure food stains are the least of your concerns. Most of the blemishes on your Adidas 4stripe market specials are of a more (ahem) 'organic' origin.
Return of the Magnificent se7en
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9:39am Thu 13 Dec 12
Chico! wrote:PMSL, its no wonder taser is useless on these toothless banjo pluckers, they've built up a tolerence from all that rubbing and discharging, ooh that sounds terrible, its no wonder they're coverd in stains.
If Tarf Moo-er went all standing it would be a massive public safety risk.
Think about it...all those dingles in their Farmfoods baked bean stained bought on the market tracksuits rubbing up next to each other would create enough static to be seen from space.
Like a chlamydia ridden, toothless, unemployed tesla coil.
Terrifying.
Harwoodstblue
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10:33am Thu 13 Dec 12
George White Bread wrote:Oh, that's how YOU do it. Is it George.
Harwoodstblue wrote:Are the horses still keeping the menfolk Blackburn warm?
Harwoodstblue wrote:HAVE YOU GOT CENTRAL HEATING IN YOUR HOUSES YET.
TodClaret wrote:IT'LL SAVE YOU THE EXPENSE OF HAVING TO PUT PLASTIC SEATS IN EVENTUALLY THEN,
It's nothing for rovers fans to worry about as we are talking about crowd control. I've heard on the grapevine from their own fans that they haven't even sold their entire allocation for Blackpool on Saturday. Still, they are a "massive club" eh?
The article encourages a discussion on terracing yet they still can't resist sticking their oars in
.....there there Dobbin, you munch on these sugar cubes while I put the step ladders up behind you.
George White Bread
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11:36am Thu 13 Dec 12
Harwoodstblue wrote:Yes so **** off and get your own ideas on how to commit ****! I'm very surprised you need any what with it being the national sport of Blackburn with Darren. That and picking peanuts out of poo of course!
George White Bread wrote:Oh, that's how YOU do it. Is it George.
Harwoodstblue wrote:Are the horses still keeping the menfolk Blackburn warm?
Harwoodstblue wrote:HAVE YOU GOT CENTRAL HEATING IN YOUR HOUSES YET.
TodClaret wrote:IT'LL SAVE YOU THE EXPENSE OF HAVING TO PUT PLASTIC SEATS IN EVENTUALLY THEN,
It's nothing for rovers fans to worry about as we are talking about crowd control. I've heard on the grapevine from their own fans that they haven't even sold their entire allocation for Blackpool on Saturday. Still, they are a "massive club" eh?
The article encourages a discussion on terracing yet they still can't resist sticking their oars in
.....there there Dobbin, you munch on these sugar cubes while I put the step ladders up behind you.
TodClaret
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11:41am Thu 13 Dec 12
sean_brfc wrote:Cheers Sean. As the rest of you can see, it is possible to comment on football issues without turning it into a slanging match. The article is about terracing and not who's dad is bigger
Hear hear, TodClaret (his first post). Stupid idea.
George White Bread
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11:48am Thu 13 Dec 12
Chico! wrote:Stop resisting your feelings, I can just see you now sat in the salvation army soup kitchen with cream of chicken soup dribbling down your chin( as it reminds you of family bath night) grinning like a retarded sex offender at the prospect of coming out to tell the world that you're a Burnley fan!
George White Bread wrote:I wouldn't clean up dog dirt with a Bonleh season ticket. It'd be degrading to the barker's bab.
Chico! wrote:What do you recommend for getting the stains out? No doubt you'll have removed many a Lidl basics range spaghetti hoop stain from your best "Scope" threads.
If Tarf Moo-er went all standing it would be a massive public safety risk.
Think about it...all those dingles in their Farmfoods baked bean stained bought on the market tracksuits rubbing up next to each other would create enough static to be seen from space.
Like a chlamydia ridden, toothless, unemployed tesla coil.
Terrifying.
You're just dying to come out as a Burnley fan aren't you?
C'mon, I'll buy you a half season ticket for Christmas !!!
I'm pretty sure food stains are the least of your concerns. Most of the blemishes on your Adidas 4stripe market specials are of a more (ahem) 'organic' origin.
All this built up frustration in your posts is there because you're in turmoil with yourself. Time to let go now Chico, just accept your claret and blue destiny.
Welcome aboard son, next stop the premiership !!!
Chico!
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11:56am Thu 13 Dec 12
George White Bread wrote:Back on the methodone again eh Boy George?
Chico! wrote:Stop resisting your feelings, I can just see you now sat in the salvation army soup kitchen with cream of chicken soup dribbling down your chin( as it reminds you of family bath night) grinning like a retarded sex offender at the prospect of coming out to tell the world that you're a Burnley fan! All this built up frustration in your posts is there because you're in turmoil with yourself. Time to let go now Chico, just accept your claret and blue destiny. Welcome aboard son, next stop the premiership !!!George White Bread wrote:I wouldn't clean up dog dirt with a Bonleh season ticket. It'd be degrading to the barker's bab. I'm pretty sure food stains are the least of your concerns. Most of the blemishes on your Adidas 4stripe market specials are of a more (ahem) 'organic' origin.Chico! wrote: If Tarf Moo-er went all standing it would be a massive public safety risk. Think about it...all those dingles in their Farmfoods baked bean stained bought on the market tracksuits rubbing up next to each other would create enough static to be seen from space. Like a chlamydia ridden, toothless, unemployed tesla coil. Terrifying.What do you recommend for getting the stains out? No doubt you'll have removed many a Lidl basics range spaghetti hoop stain from your best "Scope" threads. You're just dying to come out as a Burnley fan aren't you? C'mon, I'll buy you a half season ticket for Christmas !!!
As long as you get yourself together before going to sign on you'll be fine.
Don't forget to fill in your diary.
TodClaret says...
11:34am Wed 12 Dec 12
Concerts aren't a good example to back up the argument as people want to dance. It's a concert!
Football stadia have improved significantly over the last twenty years or so and it is a lot more pleasant environment to watch a game now. Returning to standing on a cold wind-swept terrace at some football outpost on a cold Tuesday night in February is not my idea of fun.
Football has come a long way since Hillsboro, lets not take a backwards step