Singh promises 'decisive action'

BLACKBURN Rovers chief Shebby Singh has vowed “decisive action” will be taken to arrest their Championship slump – with members of the club’s coaching staff believed to be the first in the firing line.

Rovers’ global advisor held crisis talks with boss Henning Berg, managing director Derek Shaw and operations director Paul Agnew on Monday night to discuss a run of just one win in eight matches leaving them four points outside the play-off spots.

Singh, pictured above, declined to comment on what action had been decided on but the Lancashire Telegraph understand Berg, whose position is safe at the moment, has been told to search for new coaching staff.

Assistant Eric Black, first team coach Iain Brunskill and goalkeeping coach Bobby Mimms are all believed to be being lined up for an exit, although all remained in their posts last night and in the dark about the reports.

Colin Hendry is understood to be set to assist reserve team boss Gary Bowyer, with Berg already understood to have told Singh who he wants to bring in.

The Lancashire Telegraph also under-stands Rovers’ players will be warned to improve their performances or face a January clear-out as Singh and hisemployees grow increasingly concerned at a fading promotion push.

Singh said: “After a 4-1 home defeat and a performance and a result like that it is inevitable there was going to be a post mortem, after 21 games as well.

“We discussed and deliberated things, myself, Henning, Derek Shaw and Paul Agnew and they were serious and intense discussions where every subject was talked about.

“Everything from under performing players, to unhappy players to backroom, management and coaching staff. “Things had to be debated and everything is now very clear, now we know the direction we are heading in and what decisions have to be taken. “Decisive decisions and actions were needed and they will be taken, I just ask fans to respect our wishes for a bit of time to bring them into fruition.

“I can’t and won’t talk about specifics. After 21 games, it is natural this was the time for a post-mortem and that means every individual has to be assessed. We assessed everything and made some decisions.

“The pressure is on. We did not expect this to be easy and it hasn’t been but the decisions have been made that need to be made.”

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10:46am Wed 12 Dec 12

juanbbien says...

Oh heck
Oh heck juanbbien

10:52am Wed 12 Dec 12

baz58 says...

I wont hold my breath, wrong decisions have been made ever since Venkys took over. Dont forget Rovers fans have had to be patient in one way ot another for more than 2 years, and the slump continues. No one will be patient forever, the gates will continue to fall!!!!
I wont hold my breath, wrong decisions have been made ever since Venkys took over. Dont forget Rovers fans have had to be patient in one way ot another for more than 2 years, and the slump continues. No one will be patient forever, the gates will continue to fall!!!! baz58

10:53am Wed 12 Dec 12

Return of the Magnificent se7en says...

Decisive?? the only time they act decisively is when that make a ballsup at lightning speed and then take six months to to sort out the mess they created. Like the big sam sacking or the taking six weeks to replace Kean yet they let more than half a first team depart at the drop of a hat instead of potting the doughnut, and then he had to resign leaving us, in keans own words, with the greatest squad he has ever worked with.
I see Keanochio walked straight into another position as he was so in demand. the problem we have is kean and co bought to much deadwood now we have to pot another half dozen poor signings as the ones that have left were better than what we have now.
Decisive?? the only time they act decisively is when that make a ballsup at lightning speed and then take six months to to sort out the mess they created. Like the big sam sacking or the taking six weeks to replace Kean yet they let more than half a first team depart at the drop of a hat instead of potting the doughnut, and then he had to resign leaving us, in keans own words, with the greatest squad he has ever worked with. I see Keanochio walked straight into another position as he was so in demand. the problem we have is kean and co bought to much deadwood now we have to pot another half dozen poor signings as the ones that have left were better than what we have now. Return of the Magnificent se7en

11:00am Wed 12 Dec 12

1riversider says...

Here's an idea Shebby - sack yourself, and take the other Stooges with you. You couldn't possibly make this story up - a bunch of incompetents (the Three Stooges) deciding on the future of another bunch of incompetents (the coaching staff), And why isn't Hendry included in all this? Why don't you all just F off!!

SHYSTERS GET OUT OF OUR CLUB
Here's an idea Shebby - sack yourself, and take the other Stooges with you. You couldn't possibly make this story up - a bunch of incompetents (the Three Stooges) deciding on the future of another bunch of incompetents (the coaching staff), And why isn't Hendry included in all this? Why don't you all just F off!! SHYSTERS GET OUT OF OUR CLUB 1riversider

11:02am Wed 12 Dec 12

Crow27 says...

Ibelieve a few of things need to happen;
1) Don't let these four get together again, p**s up, brewery etc.
2) Let Berg have his own staff no matter how much, the Venkys have made a profit from us.
3) Let Berg get rid of players he doesn't want. If he is the manager he should be allowed to do this!
4) Play Givet!
Ibelieve a few of things need to happen; 1) Don't let these four get together again, p**s up, brewery etc. 2) Let Berg have his own staff no matter how much, the Venkys have made a profit from us. 3) Let Berg get rid of players he doesn't want. If he is the manager he should be allowed to do this! 4) Play Givet! Crow27

11:10am Wed 12 Dec 12

Lancs - pensioner says...

Crow27 wrote:
Ibelieve a few of things need to happen;
1) Don't let these four get together again, p**s up, brewery etc.
2) Let Berg have his own staff no matter how much, the Venkys have made a profit from us.
3) Let Berg get rid of players he doesn't want. If he is the manager he should be allowed to do this!
4) Play Givet!
5) Get rid of a useless defence coach/pension robber/girlfriend beater
[quote][p][bold]Crow27[/bold] wrote: Ibelieve a few of things need to happen; 1) Don't let these four get together again, p**s up, brewery etc. 2) Let Berg have his own staff no matter how much, the Venkys have made a profit from us. 3) Let Berg get rid of players he doesn't want. If he is the manager he should be allowed to do this! 4) Play Givet![/p][/quote]5) Get rid of a useless defence coach/pension robber/girlfriend beater Lancs - pensioner

11:11am Wed 12 Dec 12

Lancs - pensioner says...

Lancs - pensioner wrote:
Crow27 wrote:
Ibelieve a few of things need to happen;
1) Don't let these four get together again, p**s up, brewery etc.
2) Let Berg have his own staff no matter how much, the Venkys have made a profit from us.
3) Let Berg get rid of players he doesn't want. If he is the manager he should be allowed to do this!
4) Play Givet!
5) Get rid of a useless defence coach/pension robber/girlfriend beater
6) play two up front

Anymore?
[quote][p][bold]Lancs - pensioner[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Crow27[/bold] wrote: Ibelieve a few of things need to happen; 1) Don't let these four get together again, p**s up, brewery etc. 2) Let Berg have his own staff no matter how much, the Venkys have made a profit from us. 3) Let Berg get rid of players he doesn't want. If he is the manager he should be allowed to do this! 4) Play Givet![/p][/quote]5) Get rid of a useless defence coach/pension robber/girlfriend beater[/p][/quote]6) play two up front Anymore? Lancs - pensioner

11:17am Wed 12 Dec 12

Harwoodstblue says...

Lancs - pensioner wrote:
Lancs - pensioner wrote:
Crow27 wrote:
Ibelieve a few of things need to happen;
1) Don't let these four get together again, p**s up, brewery etc.
2) Let Berg have his own staff no matter how much, the Venkys have made a profit from us.
3) Let Berg get rid of players he doesn't want. If he is the manager he should be allowed to do this!
4) Play Givet!
5) Get rid of a useless defence coach/pension robber/girlfriend beater
6) play two up front

Anymore?
Yes Venkys....Make available the £5 million pounds each transfer window as you Promised.
[quote][p][bold]Lancs - pensioner[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lancs - pensioner[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Crow27[/bold] wrote: Ibelieve a few of things need to happen; 1) Don't let these four get together again, p**s up, brewery etc. 2) Let Berg have his own staff no matter how much, the Venkys have made a profit from us. 3) Let Berg get rid of players he doesn't want. If he is the manager he should be allowed to do this! 4) Play Givet![/p][/quote]5) Get rid of a useless defence coach/pension robber/girlfriend beater[/p][/quote]6) play two up front Anymore?[/p][/quote]Yes Venkys....Make available the £5 million pounds each transfer window as you Promised. Harwoodstblue

11:18am Wed 12 Dec 12

A Darener says...

Freidel in. Player/coach.
Hennings own players in, deadwood out.
Once Henning has his own staff/ players then the excuses have to stop.
Feb 1st D Day. All must be well and good by then.
Freidel in. Player/coach. Hennings own players in, deadwood out. Once Henning has his own staff/ players then the excuses have to stop. Feb 1st D Day. All must be well and good by then. A Darener

11:19am Wed 12 Dec 12

Dan11 says...

MESSAGE TO SHEBBY-

OUT WITH THE USELESS SPINE OF THIS "TEAM".

ROBINSON
DANN
HANLEY
MURPHY
ETUHU

IN with QUALITY PLAYERS.

This will go a long way to getting the team winning again. Thus far our only impressive win was against Peterboro who are clearly a league 1 team. That is simply not acceptable.
MESSAGE TO SHEBBY- OUT WITH THE USELESS SPINE OF THIS "TEAM". ROBINSON DANN HANLEY MURPHY ETUHU IN with QUALITY PLAYERS. This will go a long way to getting the team winning again. Thus far our only impressive win was against Peterboro who are clearly a league 1 team. That is simply not acceptable. Dan11

11:22am Wed 12 Dec 12

Dan11 says...

Shebby if you follow the consensus of all Rovers fans you will see that those 5 players I mentioned are not good enough and with those players in the team we will be starting next season in the championship at the very best!
Shebby if you follow the consensus of all Rovers fans you will see that those 5 players I mentioned are not good enough and with those players in the team we will be starting next season in the championship at the very best! Dan11

11:23am Wed 12 Dec 12

owd nick says...

This was reported in yesterdays Daily Mirror.

At the end of the day Kean has gone but the attitude remains negative, Ewood is a morgue, the owners absent and every-time Shebby opens his mouth he puts both feet in it.

All Keans back-room staff are associated with the failures from last season, they need to go because Berg needs to know his back-room team is supporting him.

So Shebby is right, I just wish he would keep his mouth shut and let Berg get on with what he has to do.

BTW, just on Sky Sports, Wally Downes West Ham defensive coach has left West Ham today, coincidence perhaps?
This was reported in yesterdays Daily Mirror. At the end of the day Kean has gone but the attitude remains negative, Ewood is a morgue, the owners absent and every-time Shebby opens his mouth he puts both feet in it. All Keans back-room staff are associated with the failures from last season, they need to go because Berg needs to know his back-room team is supporting him. So Shebby is right, I just wish he would keep his mouth shut and let Berg get on with what he has to do. BTW, just on Sky Sports, Wally Downes West Ham defensive coach has left West Ham today, coincidence perhaps? owd nick

11:25am Wed 12 Dec 12

Sherwoodforest says...

Same sh1t......different day
Same sh1t......different day Sherwoodforest

11:32am Wed 12 Dec 12

A Rover 45 years and over says...

Does this clearout include the Manager Shebby. You seem to be digging a bigger hole for yourselves by the day now. It cant be a shock to be where we are if you look at Hennings past record and you chose the man in the first place. Now you are knee jerking into more trouble. The problem is Shebby nobody knows what they are doing down there including yourself. as you haven't done anything like this before. Will you resign if we get relegated. We don't want you to fail but look at what you have acheived so far, it's not looking good. We are all paying the price for you not appointing a top manager and allowing him to run the football matters in line with his experience etc.
Does this clearout include the Manager Shebby. You seem to be digging a bigger hole for yourselves by the day now. It cant be a shock to be where we are if you look at Hennings past record and you chose the man in the first place. Now you are knee jerking into more trouble. The problem is Shebby nobody knows what they are doing down there including yourself. as you haven't done anything like this before. Will you resign if we get relegated. We don't want you to fail but look at what you have acheived so far, it's not looking good. We are all paying the price for you not appointing a top manager and allowing him to run the football matters in line with his experience etc. A Rover 45 years and over

11:33am Wed 12 Dec 12

katrew says...

So we have a bunch of second raters debating as to what needs to be done at the club. Does anyone believe that that people with the very poor track records of Shaw, Agnew and the Malaysian football pundit Singh actually know what to do.They are clueless, inept and complete idiots. God help Rovers
So we have a bunch of second raters debating as to what needs to be done at the club. Does anyone believe that that people with the very poor track records of Shaw, Agnew and the Malaysian football pundit Singh actually know what to do.They are clueless, inept and complete idiots. God help Rovers katrew

11:34am Wed 12 Dec 12

Roverthere says...

Decisive and Venky's don't go together!
Decisive and Venky's don't go together! Roverthere

11:37am Wed 12 Dec 12

hasslem hasslem says...

the moon is made of cheese.

the cheque is in the post.

of course i will respect you in the morning.

decisive action will be taken to halt the slide.
the moon is made of cheese. the cheque is in the post. of course i will respect you in the morning. decisive action will be taken to halt the slide. hasslem hasslem

11:38am Wed 12 Dec 12

leitchy says...

Shebby you asked for time before appointing Berg, saying "this is the biggest decision the club has had to make, and we must get it right"

So here is an idea...Why didn't you have this discussion when appointing Berg as to who he wanted as his coaching staff..and the direction the club is going in??? not 8 games later?

Blind leading the blind...comes to mind!!
Shebby you asked for time before appointing Berg, saying "this is the biggest decision the club has had to make, and we must get it right" So here is an idea...Why didn't you have this discussion when appointing Berg as to who he wanted as his coaching staff..and the direction the club is going in??? not 8 games later? Blind leading the blind...comes to mind!! leitchy

11:39am Wed 12 Dec 12

French Rover says...

Good to hear we are doing something about the mess - the club needs major surgery and it sounds like we will get it.

Just hope that Berg has a good 'off' the field' team lined-up to come in.

Getting rid of people from three key backroom/training/st
aff positions at this stage of the season is a very risky strategy. I feel it is hard especially on Bobby Mimms who Sam Allardyce brought in to the club. Mimms has helped three or four young keepers develop into excellent professionals for us in the four years he has been at Ewood. He wont have any problems getting another club. Good luck Bobby.

Maybe it would have made more sense- then all the disruption is done and dusted in one go. But then it wouldn't be normal for Rovers to do things the easy way.
Good to hear we are doing something about the mess - the club needs major surgery and it sounds like we will get it. Just hope that Berg has a good 'off' the field' team lined-up to come in. Getting rid of people from three key backroom/training/st aff positions at this stage of the season is a very risky strategy. I feel it is hard especially on Bobby Mimms who Sam Allardyce brought in to the club. Mimms has helped three or four young keepers develop into excellent professionals for us in the four years he has been at Ewood. He wont have any problems getting another club. Good luck Bobby. Maybe it would have made more sense- then all the disruption is done and dusted in one go. But then it wouldn't be normal for Rovers to do things the easy way. French Rover

11:41am Wed 12 Dec 12

tiojo says...

The low attendance for the last match at Ewood Park shows that the heart has gone out of the club. The fans don't have any faith in it any more. And it seems that is the way the players view things too. No-one has any faith in the statements of the owners or their representative Mr Singh. There is too much history of talking big and delivering small. It seems ownership is at the bottom of the club's troubles.
The low attendance for the last match at Ewood Park shows that the heart has gone out of the club. The fans don't have any faith in it any more. And it seems that is the way the players view things too. No-one has any faith in the statements of the owners or their representative Mr Singh. There is too much history of talking big and delivering small. It seems ownership is at the bottom of the club's troubles. tiojo

11:42am Wed 12 Dec 12

j166429 says...

So Shebby is talking of "post-mortem"...so he's starting to realise that our promotion push is already dead?

What a bunch of idiots. Decisive action should have been taken 2 years, that way we might not be in this mess now. I can't believe it's taken so long to realise that the coaching staff aren't up to it. They've been here since "he who shall not be named" was in charge and during that time we've sunk further and further into the mire...

We're in a mess...
So Shebby is talking of "post-mortem"...so he's starting to realise that our promotion push is already dead? What a bunch of idiots. Decisive action should have been taken 2 years, that way we might not be in this mess now. I can't believe it's taken so long to realise that the coaching staff aren't up to it. They've been here since "he who shall not be named" was in charge and during that time we've sunk further and further into the mire... We're in a mess... j166429

11:45am Wed 12 Dec 12

Stafford Rover says...

When you systematically dismantle a well-run football club's infrastructure and you tear the heart out of happy family club, you can neither expect nor attain a sudden reversal of fortunes. Steve Kean's sacking was only the first step or reversing a horrendous catalogue of terrible decisions and mis-management.
Throwing money at big signings isn't the answer. The atmosphere inside the club needs renewal, dead-wood removed, a return to sensible management structure etc etc.
I believe the best way forward (which I'm sure Venky's would never do) would be to:
1. Apologise to the fans for what they've done to Rovers.
2. Apologise to John Williams/Tom Finn etc.
3. Invite them to return, at least in the short term, to oversee the re-building.
When you systematically dismantle a well-run football club's infrastructure and you tear the heart out of happy family club, you can neither expect nor attain a sudden reversal of fortunes. Steve Kean's sacking was only the first step or reversing a horrendous catalogue of terrible decisions and mis-management. Throwing money at big signings isn't the answer. The atmosphere inside the club needs renewal, dead-wood removed, a return to sensible management structure etc etc. I believe the best way forward (which I'm sure Venky's would never do) would be to: 1. Apologise to the fans for what they've done to Rovers. 2. Apologise to John Williams/Tom Finn etc. 3. Invite them to return, at least in the short term, to oversee the re-building. Stafford Rover

11:45am Wed 12 Dec 12

Riverside 7 says...

I believe the finger should also be pointing at the members of the Board who where responsible for Berg's appointment - namely Shebby, Shaw and Agnew.

This bunch of idiots took 5 weeks to identify Berg as the man to lead Rovers back to the Premier League this season.

Lets be honest, if most Rovers fans had been asked to name 10 people to succeed Kean I am certain that Berg's name would not have appeared in the 10.

I would dearly like to know how they arrived at their choice ahead of;-
1) international and former international team managers such as Trapattoni & Schuster,
2) experienced Premier League Managers such as Holloway & McCarthy,
3) successful overseas maagers such as Solskjaer,

I along with most Rovers fans were repared to give Berg our full support but I am afraid that after 8 games in charge Berg has done nothing to change my opinion that he was the wrong choice for Blackburn Rovers.

Just 5 points from a possible 24 is relegation form and we look nothing like a side that will challenge for promoton this year.

I will admit that he inherited an unbalanced and unfit squad of players
but he has done the impossible and got less out of the current squad than ether Kean or Black.
His team selections, formations use of substitutes have been very poor and warning bells ought to be sounding loud and clear.

If we lose on Saturday we ought to cut our losses now before giving him any money to spend in January and bring in Mark Hughes as soon as as posssible.

After all Hughes ticks the only box that appears to count to this Board - he was an ex-player.
I believe the finger should also be pointing at the members of the Board who where responsible for Berg's appointment - namely Shebby, Shaw and Agnew. This bunch of idiots took 5 weeks to identify Berg as the man to lead Rovers back to the Premier League this season. Lets be honest, if most Rovers fans had been asked to name 10 people to succeed Kean I am certain that Berg's name would not have appeared in the 10. I would dearly like to know how they arrived at their choice ahead of;- 1) international and former international team managers such as Trapattoni & Schuster, 2) experienced Premier League Managers such as Holloway & McCarthy, 3) successful overseas maagers such as Solskjaer, I along with most Rovers fans were repared to give Berg our full support but I am afraid that after 8 games in charge Berg has done nothing to change my opinion that he was the wrong choice for Blackburn Rovers. Just 5 points from a possible 24 is relegation form and we look nothing like a side that will challenge for promoton this year. I will admit that he inherited an unbalanced and unfit squad of players but he has done the impossible and got less out of the current squad than ether Kean or Black. His team selections, formations use of substitutes have been very poor and warning bells ought to be sounding loud and clear. If we lose on Saturday we ought to cut our losses now before giving him any money to spend in January and bring in Mark Hughes as soon as as posssible. After all Hughes ticks the only box that appears to count to this Board - he was an ex-player. Riverside 7

11:49am Wed 12 Dec 12

Will P says...

Mikael Silvestre wants to join either Blackburn or Bolton. Ok, he may be 35, but he played for Werder Bremen last year and I'm pretty sure, unlike Murphy, he's been playing European football for the last 10 years. Worth a gamble.
He'd also make a good stalwart in defence, and possibly a defensive leader.

To be fair though, at least they're doing this sooner rather than later, normally they'd make a 'decisive action' in march when promotion would be impossible.

A fire sale is needed too. Some players are way below par and I'm pretty sure Berg knows a quality player seeming as he's played with a fair few. Fingers crossed.
Mikael Silvestre wants to join either Blackburn or Bolton. Ok, he may be 35, but he played for Werder Bremen last year and I'm pretty sure, unlike Murphy, he's been playing European football for the last 10 years. Worth a gamble. He'd also make a good stalwart in defence, and possibly a defensive leader. To be fair though, at least they're doing this sooner rather than later, normally they'd make a 'decisive action' in march when promotion would be impossible. A fire sale is needed too. Some players are way below par and I'm pretty sure Berg knows a quality player seeming as he's played with a fair few. Fingers crossed. Will P

11:52am Wed 12 Dec 12

Dukes says...

SAME old **** at rovers time Venkys just sod off now take the lose cannons with them.

VENKYS OUT
SAME old **** at rovers time Venkys just sod off now take the lose cannons with them. VENKYS OUT Dukes

11:53am Wed 12 Dec 12

Gaz M says...

tiojo wrote:
The low attendance for the last match at Ewood Park shows that the heart has gone out of the club. The fans don't have any faith in it any more. And it seems that is the way the players view things too. No-one has any faith in the statements of the owners or their representative Mr Singh. There is too much history of talking big and delivering small. It seems ownership is at the bottom of the club's troubles.
Quite right good post tiojo and the longer these idiots mess about the more fans the club will lose,and the longer the fans stay away the longer it will be to get them back .It has been three sorry years of incompetant ownership and management and it seems that Shebby Singh has been brought in to organise the chaos that is our club !
[quote][p][bold]tiojo[/bold] wrote: The low attendance for the last match at Ewood Park shows that the heart has gone out of the club. The fans don't have any faith in it any more. And it seems that is the way the players view things too. No-one has any faith in the statements of the owners or their representative Mr Singh. There is too much history of talking big and delivering small. It seems ownership is at the bottom of the club's troubles.[/p][/quote]Quite right good post tiojo and the longer these idiots mess about the more fans the club will lose,and the longer the fans stay away the longer it will be to get them back .It has been three sorry years of incompetant ownership and management and it seems that Shebby Singh has been brought in to organise the chaos that is our club ! Gaz M

11:58am Wed 12 Dec 12

Harwoodstblue says...

Stafford Rover wrote:
When you systematically dismantle a well-run football club's infrastructure and you tear the heart out of happy family club, you can neither expect nor attain a sudden reversal of fortunes. Steve Kean's sacking was only the first step or reversing a horrendous catalogue of terrible decisions and mis-management.
Throwing money at big signings isn't the answer. The atmosphere inside the club needs renewal, dead-wood removed, a return to sensible management structure etc etc.
I believe the best way forward (which I'm sure Venky's would never do) would be to:
1. Apologise to the fans for what they've done to Rovers.
2. Apologise to John Williams/Tom Finn etc.
3. Invite them to return, at least in the short term, to oversee the re-building.
It took years and years of hard work from people who had the clubs interest at heart to be where we were.
It took Venkys no time at all to destroy all that.
I agree with your three points, but can't see them ever apologizing for what they've done, even though it would be the most sensible course of action.
Venkys though, don't do sensible.
[quote][p][bold]Stafford Rover[/bold] wrote: When you systematically dismantle a well-run football club's infrastructure and you tear the heart out of happy family club, you can neither expect nor attain a sudden reversal of fortunes. Steve Kean's sacking was only the first step or reversing a horrendous catalogue of terrible decisions and mis-management. Throwing money at big signings isn't the answer. The atmosphere inside the club needs renewal, dead-wood removed, a return to sensible management structure etc etc. I believe the best way forward (which I'm sure Venky's would never do) would be to: 1. Apologise to the fans for what they've done to Rovers. 2. Apologise to John Williams/Tom Finn etc. 3. Invite them to return, at least in the short term, to oversee the re-building.[/p][/quote]It took years and years of hard work from people who had the clubs interest at heart to be where we were. It took Venkys no time at all to destroy all that. I agree with your three points, but can't see them ever apologizing for what they've done, even though it would be the most sensible course of action. Venkys though, don't do sensible. Harwoodstblue

12:00pm Wed 12 Dec 12

Bangkok Rover says...

“Decisive decisions" - thank god for that. Last thing we wanted was indecisive decisions.
“Decisive decisions" - thank god for that. Last thing we wanted was indecisive decisions. Bangkok Rover

12:03pm Wed 12 Dec 12

JD__ED says...

As long as the correct decisions are made they are finally going to sort the back room out, although the team needs refurbishing also! However i wont believe anything until action is taken
As long as the correct decisions are made they are finally going to sort the back room out, although the team needs refurbishing also! However i wont believe anything until action is taken JD__ED

12:08pm Wed 12 Dec 12

HitchinRover says...

Dan11 wrote:
MESSAGE TO SHEBBY-

OUT WITH THE USELESS SPINE OF THIS "TEAM".

ROBINSON
DANN
HANLEY
MURPHY
ETUHU

IN with QUALITY PLAYERS.

This will go a long way to getting the team winning again. Thus far our only impressive win was against Peterboro who are clearly a league 1 team. That is simply not acceptable.
Why get rid of Robinson? The guys shown his loyalty and is still a quality keeper, definitely one of the best in the championship. And Hanley hardly deserves to go he's a young lad that shows a lot of promise, probably doesn't deserve to start every game but he's far from useless.
[quote][p][bold]Dan11[/bold] wrote: MESSAGE TO SHEBBY- OUT WITH THE USELESS SPINE OF THIS "TEAM". ROBINSON DANN HANLEY MURPHY ETUHU IN with QUALITY PLAYERS. This will go a long way to getting the team winning again. Thus far our only impressive win was against Peterboro who are clearly a league 1 team. That is simply not acceptable.[/p][/quote]Why get rid of Robinson? The guys shown his loyalty and is still a quality keeper, definitely one of the best in the championship. And Hanley hardly deserves to go he's a young lad that shows a lot of promise, probably doesn't deserve to start every game but he's far from useless. HitchinRover

12:10pm Wed 12 Dec 12

fanny_tickler. says...

Shebby Singh's Blue and White army!
Shebby Singh's Blue and White army! fanny_tickler.

12:15pm Wed 12 Dec 12

Return of the Magnificent se7en says...

HitchinRover wrote:
Dan11 wrote:
MESSAGE TO SHEBBY-

OUT WITH THE USELESS SPINE OF THIS "TEAM".

ROBINSON
DANN
HANLEY
MURPHY
ETUHU

IN with QUALITY PLAYERS.

This will go a long way to getting the team winning again. Thus far our only impressive win was against Peterboro who are clearly a league 1 team. That is simply not acceptable.
Why get rid of Robinson? The guys shown his loyalty and is still a quality keeper, definitely one of the best in the championship. And Hanley hardly deserves to go he's a young lad that shows a lot of promise, probably doesn't deserve to start every game but he's far from useless.
I agree, Hanley is only 21 but I think Robinson has been prone to too many mistakes like the rest of the back four, too me they could manage with a steady head at the back and a leader in midfield. Robbo would probably play better with a better spine in front of him. On the other hand, I would like to see the return of Brad to steady the ship and maybe take on the golakeeper coach role.
[quote][p][bold]HitchinRover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dan11[/bold] wrote: MESSAGE TO SHEBBY- OUT WITH THE USELESS SPINE OF THIS "TEAM". ROBINSON DANN HANLEY MURPHY ETUHU IN with QUALITY PLAYERS. This will go a long way to getting the team winning again. Thus far our only impressive win was against Peterboro who are clearly a league 1 team. That is simply not acceptable.[/p][/quote]Why get rid of Robinson? The guys shown his loyalty and is still a quality keeper, definitely one of the best in the championship. And Hanley hardly deserves to go he's a young lad that shows a lot of promise, probably doesn't deserve to start every game but he's far from useless.[/p][/quote]I agree, Hanley is only 21 but I think Robinson has been prone to too many mistakes like the rest of the back four, too me they could manage with a steady head at the back and a leader in midfield. Robbo would probably play better with a better spine in front of him. On the other hand, I would like to see the return of Brad to steady the ship and maybe take on the golakeeper coach role. Return of the Magnificent se7en

12:19pm Wed 12 Dec 12

katrew says...

Harwoodstblue wrote:
Stafford Rover wrote:
When you systematically dismantle a well-run football club's infrastructure and you tear the heart out of happy family club, you can neither expect nor attain a sudden reversal of fortunes. Steve Kean's sacking was only the first step or reversing a horrendous catalogue of terrible decisions and mis-management.
Throwing money at big signings isn't the answer. The atmosphere inside the club needs renewal, dead-wood removed, a return to sensible management structure etc etc.
I believe the best way forward (which I'm sure Venky's would never do) would be to:
1. Apologise to the fans for what they've done to Rovers.
2. Apologise to John Williams/Tom Finn etc.
3. Invite them to return, at least in the short term, to oversee the re-building.
It took years and years of hard work from people who had the clubs interest at heart to be where we were.
It took Venkys no time at all to destroy all that.
I agree with your three points, but can't see them ever apologizing for what they've done, even though it would be the most sensible course of action.
Venkys though, don't do sensible.
Steve Kean wasn't sacked he resigned. The idiot owners were no closer to sacking him than they were to signing Ronaldhino and Beckhan
[quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stafford Rover[/bold] wrote: When you systematically dismantle a well-run football club's infrastructure and you tear the heart out of happy family club, you can neither expect nor attain a sudden reversal of fortunes. Steve Kean's sacking was only the first step or reversing a horrendous catalogue of terrible decisions and mis-management. Throwing money at big signings isn't the answer. The atmosphere inside the club needs renewal, dead-wood removed, a return to sensible management structure etc etc. I believe the best way forward (which I'm sure Venky's would never do) would be to: 1. Apologise to the fans for what they've done to Rovers. 2. Apologise to John Williams/Tom Finn etc. 3. Invite them to return, at least in the short term, to oversee the re-building.[/p][/quote]It took years and years of hard work from people who had the clubs interest at heart to be where we were. It took Venkys no time at all to destroy all that. I agree with your three points, but can't see them ever apologizing for what they've done, even though it would be the most sensible course of action. Venkys though, don't do sensible.[/p][/quote]Steve Kean wasn't sacked he resigned. The idiot owners were no closer to sacking him than they were to signing Ronaldhino and Beckhan katrew

12:20pm Wed 12 Dec 12

leitchy says...

Tim Flowers is sniffing around for a job if 1st choice Friedel doesn't come in!
Tim Flowers is sniffing around for a job if 1st choice Friedel doesn't come in! leitchy

12:29pm Wed 12 Dec 12

Bazzer says...

Harwoodstblue wrote:
Stafford Rover wrote: When you systematically dismantle a well-run football club's infrastructure and you tear the heart out of happy family club, you can neither expect nor attain a sudden reversal of fortunes. Steve Kean's sacking was only the first step or reversing a horrendous catalogue of terrible decisions and mis-management. Throwing money at big signings isn't the answer. The atmosphere inside the club needs renewal, dead-wood removed, a return to sensible management structure etc etc. I believe the best way forward (which I'm sure Venky's would never do) would be to: 1. Apologise to the fans for what they've done to Rovers. 2. Apologise to John Williams/Tom Finn etc. 3. Invite them to return, at least in the short term, to oversee the re-building.
It took years and years of hard work from people who had the clubs interest at heart to be where we were. It took Venkys no time at all to destroy all that. I agree with your three points, but can't see them ever apologizing for what they've done, even though it would be the most sensible course of action. Venkys though, don't do sensible.
I rather think apologising to and then inviting the safe hands of 2 years ago to return - would be like me inviting the wife to come back home. After I have booted her out for a young Scottish floozy. Flogged all the furniture in the house and remortgaged it. Had my bank account emptied. Flogged the car. Lost the overseas property. Told the kids to live elsewhere. Lost all my friends because I have acted like a prize pratt. Know what the wife would tell me to do?
And what is the talk still of Trappatoni and Schuster? We are not now in their league! Have a look at the BBC page chronicling the downfall of Bradford from their time in the Premier League. That is where we may well be heading.
Sam Allardyce and John Williams were the wider picture team.
[quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stafford Rover[/bold] wrote: When you systematically dismantle a well-run football club's infrastructure and you tear the heart out of happy family club, you can neither expect nor attain a sudden reversal of fortunes. Steve Kean's sacking was only the first step or reversing a horrendous catalogue of terrible decisions and mis-management. Throwing money at big signings isn't the answer. The atmosphere inside the club needs renewal, dead-wood removed, a return to sensible management structure etc etc. I believe the best way forward (which I'm sure Venky's would never do) would be to: 1. Apologise to the fans for what they've done to Rovers. 2. Apologise to John Williams/Tom Finn etc. 3. Invite them to return, at least in the short term, to oversee the re-building.[/p][/quote]It took years and years of hard work from people who had the clubs interest at heart to be where we were. It took Venkys no time at all to destroy all that. I agree with your three points, but can't see them ever apologizing for what they've done, even though it would be the most sensible course of action. Venkys though, don't do sensible.[/p][/quote]I rather think apologising to and then inviting the safe hands of 2 years ago to return - would be like me inviting the wife to come back home. After I have booted her out for a young Scottish floozy. Flogged all the furniture in the house and remortgaged it. Had my bank account emptied. Flogged the car. Lost the overseas property. Told the kids to live elsewhere. Lost all my friends because I have acted like a prize pratt. Know what the wife would tell me to do? And what is the talk still of Trappatoni and Schuster? We are not now in their league! Have a look at the BBC page chronicling the downfall of Bradford from their time in the Premier League. That is where we may well be heading. Sam Allardyce and John Williams were the wider picture team. Bazzer

12:30pm Wed 12 Dec 12

handyamBRFC says...

The problem with BRFC squad.
We simply have too many over the hill players in the squad and the team.
I personally believe we need to get rid of all players over 30ish as the game of football is faster and more energy is required.
over 30ish players simply cannot do...

Our teams are too soft to play against, we are simply spineless, gutless.
We need players who are hard, tough like Batty, Sherwood, etc.....players who can command the centre and dictate the play.
we need hardened players especially for the championship.
We def. need 2 central midfielders are are fast, skill full and young/energetic enough to last 90 minutes.
we need at least one central defender who should be quality.
we need a captain, A general.

ROBINSON is still okay & experienced
DANN is very poor
HANLEY is young and ok as backup
MURPHY is dead wood
ETUHU is dead wood
Dunn is old, slow and past it

too many other old & slow players in the team....get rid of
you only need a few elders in the squad.....In my view....!!

The young new players should be kept on, although not capable as yet for 1st team, maybe so for the future as they come from impoverished backgrounds and BRFC will have to build the young ones up....!!!

what do you think..??
agree/ disagree..?? your views plz.!
The problem with BRFC squad. We simply have too many over the hill players in the squad and the team. I personally believe we need to get rid of all players over 30ish as the game of football is faster and more energy is required. over 30ish players simply cannot do... Our teams are too soft to play against, we are simply spineless, gutless. We need players who are hard, tough like Batty, Sherwood, etc.....players who can command the centre and dictate the play. we need hardened players especially for the championship. We def. need 2 central midfielders are are fast, skill full and young/energetic enough to last 90 minutes. we need at least one central defender who should be quality. we need a captain, A general. ROBINSON is still okay & experienced DANN is very poor HANLEY is young and ok as backup MURPHY is dead wood ETUHU is dead wood Dunn is old, slow and past it too many other old & slow players in the team....get rid of you only need a few elders in the squad.....In my view....!! The young new players should be kept on, although not capable as yet for 1st team, maybe so for the future as they come from impoverished backgrounds and BRFC will have to build the young ones up....!!! what do you think..?? agree/ disagree..?? your views plz.! handyamBRFC

12:32pm Wed 12 Dec 12

French Rover says...

owd nick wrote:
This was reported in yesterdays Daily Mirror.

At the end of the day Kean has gone but the attitude remains negative, Ewood is a morgue, the owners absent and every-time Shebby opens his mouth he puts both feet in it.

All Keans back-room staff are associated with the failures from last season, they need to go because Berg needs to know his back-room team is supporting him.

So Shebby is right, I just wish he would keep his mouth shut and let Berg get on with what he has to do.

BTW, just on Sky Sports, Wally Downes West Ham defensive coach has left West Ham today, coincidence perhaps?
Probably just coincidence owd nick....Downes was brought into WHU by Avram Grant as the defensive coach - but when BFS took over as manager he made Downes the first team coach. Also - Wally Downes has never ventured far out of the Smoke - with Reading and Southampton being the furthest away clubs he has been at. London born London Bred weak in the arm and even weaker in the head...
[quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: This was reported in yesterdays Daily Mirror. At the end of the day Kean has gone but the attitude remains negative, Ewood is a morgue, the owners absent and every-time Shebby opens his mouth he puts both feet in it. All Keans back-room staff are associated with the failures from last season, they need to go because Berg needs to know his back-room team is supporting him. So Shebby is right, I just wish he would keep his mouth shut and let Berg get on with what he has to do. BTW, just on Sky Sports, Wally Downes West Ham defensive coach has left West Ham today, coincidence perhaps?[/p][/quote]Probably just coincidence owd nick....Downes was brought into WHU by Avram Grant as the defensive coach - but when BFS took over as manager he made Downes the first team coach. Also - Wally Downes has never ventured far out of the Smoke - with Reading and Southampton being the furthest away clubs he has been at. London born London Bred weak in the arm and even weaker in the head... French Rover

12:34pm Wed 12 Dec 12

fanny_tickler. says...

“Everything from under performing players, to unhappy players to backroom, management and coaching staff. “Things had to be debated and everything is now very clear, now we know the direction we are heading in and what decisions have to be taken."

“Decisive decisions and actions were needed and they will be taken, I just ask fans to respect our wishes for a bit of time to bring them into fruition."


What an absolute clown you have running your football club. It's an utter utter shambles. I almost pity the Rovers.. if I could just stop laughing!
“Everything from under performing players, to unhappy players to backroom, management and coaching staff. “Things had to be debated and everything is now very clear, now we know the direction we are heading in and what decisions have to be taken." “Decisive decisions and actions were needed and they will be taken, I just ask fans to respect our wishes for a bit of time to bring them into fruition." What an absolute clown you have running your football club. It's an utter utter shambles. I almost pity the Rovers.. if I could just stop laughing! fanny_tickler.

12:36pm Wed 12 Dec 12

roverfor60years says...

Well, Shebby, you are now reaping what your and your employers have sown. If Venky’s had not torn up their takeover promises and cynically ripped the heart out of the club after vowing to respect the legacy of Jack Walker and keep the management team in place, you would not be in this black hole.

It’s a forlorn hope warning the players to improve their performances – or else. Sadly, they are not up to it and the damage and despair that Venky’s have inflicted on the club now runs so deep that it will take years, if ever, to put things right.

If only Venky’s – that very name will haunt 25,000 Blackburn Rovers supporters forever – hadn’t bulldozed their way into Ewood flattening everything in their path and instead had carefully taken stock of the entire club and how it was run things would have been a lot different today.

The club’s infrastructure would have been intact, John Williams and Tom Finn would have been efficiently running the club for them, they wouldn’t have been ill-advised and robbed by agents, we would have been financially sound and still in the Premiership - and, yes, very likely in the top ten with players who were heart and soul in the club.

There wouldn’t have been a scattergun and hopeless transfer policy and our players would still have been proud to pull on the famous Blackburn Rovers shirt. You have destroyed all that and now you are fire-fighting in the hope that you can turn things round. Sorry, too late.

Venky’s have been repeatedly bombarded by a crescendo of warnings since the day they sacked Sam – simply because Agent Anderson wanted him out of the way. But they knew best.

Yes, you have every right to be concerned. But all your problems are self-inflicted – and Venky’s were constantly warned about their catastrophic mismanagement. Nothing would stand in their way.

John Williams was on his way out of the door when he very politely and constructively questioned Venky’s management policy. Further down the line of mistakes, failure and deterioration, deputy ceo Paul Hunt was unceremoniously sacked because Venky’s didn’t like the truth he told them.

Amid it all, Steve Kean stood immune.

And still those mistakes are being made. Why do you think Henning Berg can simply ‘go out’ and find a new coaching staff to solve all the problems?

I, along with many others, warned you personally before the appointment of the new manager that you must appoint an experienced manager and back him with all the resources and support he required. It was your last chance. Again, good advice ignored. You knew best.

You say you know in which direction you are headed. I seriously doubt it.

The entire club will have to be overhauled if you are to have any hope of restoring it to what it was before two years of incomprehensible carnage.

Get John Williams back as chairman and ceo and Tom Finn to return as managing director, whatever it takes, and let them get on with the job of revival. I don’t know if even they would be able to do it, but it would be our best chance. There is certainly no confidence or hope with the current incompetent senior management structure.

Finally, folks, Colin Hendry, the biggest failure of all, WAS assisting Ian Bowyer with the reserves yesterday. So it looks like Kean’s man has inexplicably survived the cull.
Well, Shebby, you are now reaping what your and your employers have sown. If Venky’s had not torn up their takeover promises and cynically ripped the heart out of the club after vowing to respect the legacy of Jack Walker and keep the management team in place, you would not be in this black hole. It’s a forlorn hope warning the players to improve their performances – or else. Sadly, they are not up to it and the damage and despair that Venky’s have inflicted on the club now runs so deep that it will take years, if ever, to put things right. If only Venky’s – that very name will haunt 25,000 Blackburn Rovers supporters forever – hadn’t bulldozed their way into Ewood flattening everything in their path and instead had carefully taken stock of the entire club and how it was run things would have been a lot different today. The club’s infrastructure would have been intact, John Williams and Tom Finn would have been efficiently running the club for them, they wouldn’t have been ill-advised and robbed by agents, we would have been financially sound and still in the Premiership - and, yes, very likely in the top ten with players who were heart and soul in the club. There wouldn’t have been a scattergun and hopeless transfer policy and our players would still have been proud to pull on the famous Blackburn Rovers shirt. You have destroyed all that and now you are fire-fighting in the hope that you can turn things round. Sorry, too late. Venky’s have been repeatedly bombarded by a crescendo of warnings since the day they sacked Sam – simply because Agent Anderson wanted him out of the way. But they knew best. Yes, you have every right to be concerned. But all your problems are self-inflicted – and Venky’s were constantly warned about their catastrophic mismanagement. Nothing would stand in their way. John Williams was on his way out of the door when he very politely and constructively questioned Venky’s management policy. Further down the line of mistakes, failure and deterioration, deputy ceo Paul Hunt was unceremoniously sacked because Venky’s didn’t like the truth he told them. Amid it all, Steve Kean stood immune. And still those mistakes are being made. Why do you think Henning Berg can simply ‘go out’ and find a new coaching staff to solve all the problems? I, along with many others, warned you personally before the appointment of the new manager that you must appoint an experienced manager and back him with all the resources and support he required. It was your last chance. Again, good advice ignored. You knew best. You say you know in which direction you are headed. I seriously doubt it. The entire club will have to be overhauled if you are to have any hope of restoring it to what it was before two years of incomprehensible carnage. Get John Williams back as chairman and ceo and Tom Finn to return as managing director, whatever it takes, and let them get on with the job of revival. I don’t know if even they would be able to do it, but it would be our best chance. There is certainly no confidence or hope with the current incompetent senior management structure. Finally, folks, Colin Hendry, the biggest failure of all, WAS assisting Ian Bowyer with the reserves yesterday. So it looks like Kean’s man has inexplicably survived the cull. roverfor60years

12:56pm Wed 12 Dec 12

GameRoverMan says...

"Colin Hendry is understood to be set to assist reserve team boss Gary Bowyer..." What, on a salary of £8K a week?
"Colin Hendry is understood to be set to assist reserve team boss Gary Bowyer..." What, on a salary of £8K a week? GameRoverMan

12:57pm Wed 12 Dec 12

leitchy says...

“Decisive decisions and actions were needed and they will be taken, I just ask fans to respect our wishes for a bit of time to bring them into fruition."

He is saying this as he has to pass it through Venky's first...We can't take instant action as the owners have to be convinced / pass it first!!
“Decisive decisions and actions were needed and they will be taken, I just ask fans to respect our wishes for a bit of time to bring them into fruition." He is saying this as he has to pass it through Venky's first...We can't take instant action as the owners have to be convinced / pass it first!! leitchy

12:58pm Wed 12 Dec 12

eddie the eagle says...

A bit early to be getting rid of Hanley a good steady defender along side him could help him fulfil the potential he often shows.Dann takes a lot of the blame and seems to lack the desire to defend at all costs.Etuhu, just what is he supposed to be in my opinion he was to blame for Cardiffs first goal allowing the defender to run past him into the box his heart does not seem big enough for a fight.There are others in the team who lack the stamina but most of all lack the fight . Shearer used to look liked he'd been chained up all week he was so up for it when the game started.
Kean built a click performance did not seem a factor in who played every week,I'm affraid that Kean's legacy is hard to remove lets hope it can soon be consigned to memory.
A bit early to be getting rid of Hanley a good steady defender along side him could help him fulfil the potential he often shows.Dann takes a lot of the blame and seems to lack the desire to defend at all costs.Etuhu, just what is he supposed to be in my opinion he was to blame for Cardiffs first goal allowing the defender to run past him into the box his heart does not seem big enough for a fight.There are others in the team who lack the stamina but most of all lack the fight . Shearer used to look liked he'd been chained up all week he was so up for it when the game started. Kean built a click performance did not seem a factor in who played every week,I'm affraid that Kean's legacy is hard to remove lets hope it can soon be consigned to memory. eddie the eagle

1:00pm Wed 12 Dec 12

backum says...

Riverside 7 wrote:
I believe the finger should also be pointing at the members of the Board who where responsible for Berg's appointment - namely Shebby, Shaw and Agnew.

This bunch of idiots took 5 weeks to identify Berg as the man to lead Rovers back to the Premier League this season.

Lets be honest, if most Rovers fans had been asked to name 10 people to succeed Kean I am certain that Berg's name would not have appeared in the 10.

I would dearly like to know how they arrived at their choice ahead of;-
1) international and former international team managers such as Trapattoni & Schuster,
2) experienced Premier League Managers such as Holloway & McCarthy,
3) successful overseas maagers such as Solskjaer,

I along with most Rovers fans were repared to give Berg our full support but I am afraid that after 8 games in charge Berg has done nothing to change my opinion that he was the wrong choice for Blackburn Rovers.

Just 5 points from a possible 24 is relegation form and we look nothing like a side that will challenge for promoton this year.

I will admit that he inherited an unbalanced and unfit squad of players
but he has done the impossible and got less out of the current squad than ether Kean or Black.
His team selections, formations use of substitutes have been very poor and warning bells ought to be sounding loud and clear.

If we lose on Saturday we ought to cut our losses now before giving him any money to spend in January and bring in Mark Hughes as soon as as posssible.

After all Hughes ticks the only box that appears to count to this Board - he was an ex-player.
Mark Hughes has just spent nigh on 30 million and not won a game.The new management there were astonished at the disunity of the the players,some having to train on their own.Your opinion I know but I cant begin to see the logic.
[quote][p][bold]Riverside 7[/bold] wrote: I believe the finger should also be pointing at the members of the Board who where responsible for Berg's appointment - namely Shebby, Shaw and Agnew. This bunch of idiots took 5 weeks to identify Berg as the man to lead Rovers back to the Premier League this season. Lets be honest, if most Rovers fans had been asked to name 10 people to succeed Kean I am certain that Berg's name would not have appeared in the 10. I would dearly like to know how they arrived at their choice ahead of;- 1) international and former international team managers such as Trapattoni & Schuster, 2) experienced Premier League Managers such as Holloway & McCarthy, 3) successful overseas maagers such as Solskjaer, I along with most Rovers fans were repared to give Berg our full support but I am afraid that after 8 games in charge Berg has done nothing to change my opinion that he was the wrong choice for Blackburn Rovers. Just 5 points from a possible 24 is relegation form and we look nothing like a side that will challenge for promoton this year. I will admit that he inherited an unbalanced and unfit squad of players but he has done the impossible and got less out of the current squad than ether Kean or Black. His team selections, formations use of substitutes have been very poor and warning bells ought to be sounding loud and clear. If we lose on Saturday we ought to cut our losses now before giving him any money to spend in January and bring in Mark Hughes as soon as as posssible. After all Hughes ticks the only box that appears to count to this Board - he was an ex-player.[/p][/quote]Mark Hughes has just spent nigh on 30 million and not won a game.The new management there were astonished at the disunity of the the players,some having to train on their own.Your opinion I know but I cant begin to see the logic. backum

1:01pm Wed 12 Dec 12

Dan11 says...

Return of the Magnificent se7en wrote:
HitchinRover wrote:
Dan11 wrote: MESSAGE TO SHEBBY- OUT WITH THE USELESS SPINE OF THIS "TEAM". ROBINSON DANN HANLEY MURPHY ETUHU IN with QUALITY PLAYERS. This will go a long way to getting the team winning again. Thus far our only impressive win was against Peterboro who are clearly a league 1 team. That is simply not acceptable.
Why get rid of Robinson? The guys shown his loyalty and is still a quality keeper, definitely one of the best in the championship. And Hanley hardly deserves to go he's a young lad that shows a lot of promise, probably doesn't deserve to start every game but he's far from useless.
I agree, Hanley is only 21 but I think Robinson has been prone to too many mistakes like the rest of the back four, too me they could manage with a steady head at the back and a leader in midfield. Robbo would probably play better with a better spine in front of him. On the other hand, I would like to see the return of Brad to steady the ship and maybe take on the golakeeper coach role.
I was talking about Hanley out from the perspective of the first team. He is ok as a back up but not fit or purpose to be regularly in the first team. Robinson lets far too many easy shots in, and doesnt command his penalty area. Anyone who watched us when Mark Bunn was in goal can testify the difference.
[quote][p][bold]Return of the Magnificent se7en[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HitchinRover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dan11[/bold] wrote: MESSAGE TO SHEBBY- OUT WITH THE USELESS SPINE OF THIS "TEAM". ROBINSON DANN HANLEY MURPHY ETUHU IN with QUALITY PLAYERS. This will go a long way to getting the team winning again. Thus far our only impressive win was against Peterboro who are clearly a league 1 team. That is simply not acceptable.[/p][/quote]Why get rid of Robinson? The guys shown his loyalty and is still a quality keeper, definitely one of the best in the championship. And Hanley hardly deserves to go he's a young lad that shows a lot of promise, probably doesn't deserve to start every game but he's far from useless.[/p][/quote]I agree, Hanley is only 21 but I think Robinson has been prone to too many mistakes like the rest of the back four, too me they could manage with a steady head at the back and a leader in midfield. Robbo would probably play better with a better spine in front of him. On the other hand, I would like to see the return of Brad to steady the ship and maybe take on the golakeeper coach role.[/p][/quote]I was talking about Hanley out from the perspective of the first team. He is ok as a back up but not fit or purpose to be regularly in the first team. Robinson lets far too many easy shots in, and doesnt command his penalty area. Anyone who watched us when Mark Bunn was in goal can testify the difference. Dan11

1:04pm Wed 12 Dec 12

juanbbien says...

Like I have said Hendry will not be sacked until he has paid is debt back to whoever he owes it to on the Rovers board,this appointment to the Reserves which I stated yesterday bares out this scenario,why would he offered this position to be fair in front of Eric Black,the whole thing stinks
Like I have said Hendry will not be sacked until he has paid is debt back to whoever he owes it to on the Rovers board,this appointment to the Reserves which I stated yesterday bares out this scenario,why would he offered this position to be fair in front of Eric Black,the whole thing stinks juanbbien

1:06pm Wed 12 Dec 12

Palmers G says...

Please do take decisive action, Mr Singh. Decisively clear off NOW.
Please do take decisive action, Mr Singh. Decisively clear off NOW. Palmers G

1:10pm Wed 12 Dec 12

fanny_tickler. says...

Shebby Singh is a football genius!
Shebby Singh is a football genius! fanny_tickler.

1:21pm Wed 12 Dec 12

A Darener says...

The above comment from roverfor60years
Couldn't have written it better myself.

The best analysis of the situation at BRFC written in the last two years.
This should be passed on to Shebby and the Venky's asap.
The above comment from roverfor60years Couldn't have written it better myself. The best analysis of the situation at BRFC written in the last two years. This should be passed on to Shebby and the Venky's asap. A Darener

1:22pm Wed 12 Dec 12

Harwoodstblue says...

juanbbien wrote:
Like I have said Hendry will not be sacked until he has paid is debt back to whoever he owes it to on the Rovers board,this appointment to the Reserves which I stated yesterday bares out this scenario,why would he offered this position to be fair in front of Eric Black,the whole thing stinks
Eric black did a decent job in the few games that he was in charge. It would appear his coaching abilities far out weigh those of Hendry's.
If he goes it will be yet one more idiotic decision from the Loons in Pune, but what have we come to expect of Venkys ?
[quote][p][bold]juanbbien[/bold] wrote: Like I have said Hendry will not be sacked until he has paid is debt back to whoever he owes it to on the Rovers board,this appointment to the Reserves which I stated yesterday bares out this scenario,why would he offered this position to be fair in front of Eric Black,the whole thing stinks[/p][/quote]Eric black did a decent job in the few games that he was in charge. It would appear his coaching abilities far out weigh those of Hendry's. If he goes it will be yet one more idiotic decision from the Loons in Pune, but what have we come to expect of Venkys ? Harwoodstblue

1:23pm Wed 12 Dec 12

spike t says...

Batty and Le saux are to join Berg on the bench to add some fight.
Batty and Le saux are to join Berg on the bench to add some fight. spike t

1:25pm Wed 12 Dec 12

senlac1066 says...

1riversider wrote:
Here's an idea Shebby - sack yourself, and take the other Stooges with you. You couldn't possibly make this story up - a bunch of incompetents (the Three Stooges) deciding on the future of another bunch of incompetents (the coaching staff), And why isn't Hendry included in all this? Why don't you all just F off!!

SHYSTERS GET OUT OF OUR CLUB
HENDRY OUTTTTTTT!!!
[quote][p][bold]1riversider[/bold] wrote: Here's an idea Shebby - sack yourself, and take the other Stooges with you. You couldn't possibly make this story up - a bunch of incompetents (the Three Stooges) deciding on the future of another bunch of incompetents (the coaching staff), And why isn't Hendry included in all this? Why don't you all just F off!! SHYSTERS GET OUT OF OUR CLUB[/p][/quote]HENDRY OUTTTTTTT!!! senlac1066

1:25pm Wed 12 Dec 12

baz58 says...

tiojo wrote:
The low attendance for the last match at Ewood Park shows that the heart has gone out of the club. The fans don't have any faith in it any more. And it seems that is the way the players view things too. No-one has any faith in the statements of the owners or their representative Mr Singh. There is too much history of talking big and delivering small. It seems ownership is at the bottom of the club's troubles.
Absolutley spot on there tiogo.
[quote][p][bold]tiojo[/bold] wrote: The low attendance for the last match at Ewood Park shows that the heart has gone out of the club. The fans don't have any faith in it any more. And it seems that is the way the players view things too. No-one has any faith in the statements of the owners or their representative Mr Singh. There is too much history of talking big and delivering small. It seems ownership is at the bottom of the club's troubles.[/p][/quote]Absolutley spot on there tiogo. baz58

1:27pm Wed 12 Dec 12

backum says...

Some of the backroom staff are not popular,but to sacrifice Bobby Mimms is ludicrous.He is probably in the top three goalkeeping coaches in the country.Despite last years disaster we were stable and on track until Singh got in on the act and made a poor appointment in Berg.Now of course they are covering their backs blaming others.Lets be honest,we are worse now than before Berg came.His sacrifice of Mimms for Freidal is unsettling for Robinson as well.
Some of the backroom staff are not popular,but to sacrifice Bobby Mimms is ludicrous.He is probably in the top three goalkeeping coaches in the country.Despite last years disaster we were stable and on track until Singh got in on the act and made a poor appointment in Berg.Now of course they are covering their backs blaming others.Lets be honest,we are worse now than before Berg came.His sacrifice of Mimms for Freidal is unsettling for Robinson as well. backum

1:27pm Wed 12 Dec 12

backum says...

Some of the backroom staff are not popular,but to sacrifice Bobby Mimms is ludicrous.He is probably in the top three goalkeeping coaches in the country.Despite last years disaster we were stable and on track until Singh got in on the act and made a poor appointment in Berg.Now of course they are covering their backs blaming others.Lets be honest,we are worse now than before Berg came.His sacrifice of Mimms for Freidal is unsettling for Robinson as well.
Some of the backroom staff are not popular,but to sacrifice Bobby Mimms is ludicrous.He is probably in the top three goalkeeping coaches in the country.Despite last years disaster we were stable and on track until Singh got in on the act and made a poor appointment in Berg.Now of course they are covering their backs blaming others.Lets be honest,we are worse now than before Berg came.His sacrifice of Mimms for Freidal is unsettling for Robinson as well. backum

1:27pm Wed 12 Dec 12

backum says...

Some of the backroom staff are not popular,but to sacrifice Bobby Mimms is ludicrous.He is probably in the top three goalkeeping coaches in the country.Despite last years disaster we were stable and on track until Singh got in on the act and made a poor appointment in Berg.Now of course they are covering their backs blaming others.Lets be honest,we are worse now than before Berg came.His sacrifice of Mimms for Freidal is unsettling for Robinson as well.
Some of the backroom staff are not popular,but to sacrifice Bobby Mimms is ludicrous.He is probably in the top three goalkeeping coaches in the country.Despite last years disaster we were stable and on track until Singh got in on the act and made a poor appointment in Berg.Now of course they are covering their backs blaming others.Lets be honest,we are worse now than before Berg came.His sacrifice of Mimms for Freidal is unsettling for Robinson as well. backum

1:27pm Wed 12 Dec 12

leitchy says...

backum wrote:
Riverside 7 wrote: I believe the finger should also be pointing at the members of the Board who where responsible for Berg's appointment - namely Shebby, Shaw and Agnew. This bunch of idiots took 5 weeks to identify Berg as the man to lead Rovers back to the Premier League this season. Lets be honest, if most Rovers fans had been asked to name 10 people to succeed Kean I am certain that Berg's name would not have appeared in the 10. I would dearly like to know how they arrived at their choice ahead of;- 1) international and former international team managers such as Trapattoni & Schuster, 2) experienced Premier League Managers such as Holloway & McCarthy, 3) successful overseas maagers such as Solskjaer, I along with most Rovers fans were repared to give Berg our full support but I am afraid that after 8 games in charge Berg has done nothing to change my opinion that he was the wrong choice for Blackburn Rovers. Just 5 points from a possible 24 is relegation form and we look nothing like a side that will challenge for promoton this year. I will admit that he inherited an unbalanced and unfit squad of players but he has done the impossible and got less out of the current squad than ether Kean or Black. His team selections, formations use of substitutes have been very poor and warning bells ought to be sounding loud and clear. If we lose on Saturday we ought to cut our losses now before giving him any money to spend in January and bring in Mark Hughes as soon as as posssible. After all Hughes ticks the only box that appears to count to this Board - he was an ex-player.
Mark Hughes has just spent nigh on 30 million and not won a game.The new management there were astonished at the disunity of the the players,some having to train on their own.Your opinion I know but I cant begin to see the logic.
It did not work for Mark Hughes at QPR, but he is still the best manager we've had in the last decade.. He worked wonders at Blackburn and created a very good squad on little money....I would take him back instantly.
[quote][p][bold]backum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Riverside 7[/bold] wrote: I believe the finger should also be pointing at the members of the Board who where responsible for Berg's appointment - namely Shebby, Shaw and Agnew. This bunch of idiots took 5 weeks to identify Berg as the man to lead Rovers back to the Premier League this season. Lets be honest, if most Rovers fans had been asked to name 10 people to succeed Kean I am certain that Berg's name would not have appeared in the 10. I would dearly like to know how they arrived at their choice ahead of;- 1) international and former international team managers such as Trapattoni & Schuster, 2) experienced Premier League Managers such as Holloway & McCarthy, 3) successful overseas maagers such as Solskjaer, I along with most Rovers fans were repared to give Berg our full support but I am afraid that after 8 games in charge Berg has done nothing to change my opinion that he was the wrong choice for Blackburn Rovers. Just 5 points from a possible 24 is relegation form and we look nothing like a side that will challenge for promoton this year. I will admit that he inherited an unbalanced and unfit squad of players but he has done the impossible and got less out of the current squad than ether Kean or Black. His team selections, formations use of substitutes have been very poor and warning bells ought to be sounding loud and clear. If we lose on Saturday we ought to cut our losses now before giving him any money to spend in January and bring in Mark Hughes as soon as as posssible. After all Hughes ticks the only box that appears to count to this Board - he was an ex-player.[/p][/quote]Mark Hughes has just spent nigh on 30 million and not won a game.The new management there were astonished at the disunity of the the players,some having to train on their own.Your opinion I know but I cant begin to see the logic.[/p][/quote]It did not work for Mark Hughes at QPR, but he is still the best manager we've had in the last decade.. He worked wonders at Blackburn and created a very good squad on little money....I would take him back instantly. leitchy

1:31pm Wed 12 Dec 12

bobinspain says...

juanbbien wrote:
Oh heck
You've got to hand it to Singh.
He's a master of motivation and a mullah of morale where shepherding his coaching staff are concerned.
Mind you, he's only been at the club for two years, so it's early days yet. He really should try his hand at organising pi$$ ups in breweries first though. Once (and if) he gets the hang of it, he could try again at running a football club, (preferably one outside Lancashire please).
[quote][p][bold]juanbbien[/bold] wrote: Oh heck[/p][/quote]You've got to hand it to Singh. He's a master of motivation and a mullah of morale where shepherding his coaching staff are concerned. Mind you, he's only been at the club for two years, so it's early days yet. He really should try his hand at organising pi$$ ups in breweries first though. Once (and if) he gets the hang of it, he could try again at running a football club, (preferably one outside Lancashire please). bobinspain

1:36pm Wed 12 Dec 12

French Rover says...

roverfor60years wrote:
Well, Shebby, you are now reaping what your and your employers have sown. If Venky’s had not torn up their takeover promises and cynically ripped the heart out of the club after vowing to respect the legacy of Jack Walker and keep the management team in place, you would not be in this black hole.

It’s a forlorn hope warning the players to improve their performances – or else. Sadly, they are not up to it and the damage and despair that Venky’s have inflicted on the club now runs so deep that it will take years, if ever, to put things right.

If only Venky’s – that very name will haunt 25,000 Blackburn Rovers supporters forever – hadn’t bulldozed their way into Ewood flattening everything in their path and instead had carefully taken stock of the entire club and how it was run things would have been a lot different today.

The club’s infrastructure would have been intact, John Williams and Tom Finn would have been efficiently running the club for them, they wouldn’t have been ill-advised and robbed by agents, we would have been financially sound and still in the Premiership - and, yes, very likely in the top ten with players who were heart and soul in the club.

There wouldn’t have been a scattergun and hopeless transfer policy and our players would still have been proud to pull on the famous Blackburn Rovers shirt. You have destroyed all that and now you are fire-fighting in the hope that you can turn things round. Sorry, too late.

Venky’s have been repeatedly bombarded by a crescendo of warnings since the day they sacked Sam – simply because Agent Anderson wanted him out of the way. But they knew best.

Yes, you have every right to be concerned. But all your problems are self-inflicted – and Venky’s were constantly warned about their catastrophic mismanagement. Nothing would stand in their way.

John Williams was on his way out of the door when he very politely and constructively questioned Venky’s management policy. Further down the line of mistakes, failure and deterioration, deputy ceo Paul Hunt was unceremoniously sacked because Venky’s didn’t like the truth he told them.

Amid it all, Steve Kean stood immune.

And still those mistakes are being made. Why do you think Henning Berg can simply ‘go out’ and find a new coaching staff to solve all the problems?

I, along with many others, warned you personally before the appointment of the new manager that you must appoint an experienced manager and back him with all the resources and support he required. It was your last chance. Again, good advice ignored. You knew best.

You say you know in which direction you are headed. I seriously doubt it.

The entire club will have to be overhauled if you are to have any hope of restoring it to what it was before two years of incomprehensible carnage.

Get John Williams back as chairman and ceo and Tom Finn to return as managing director, whatever it takes, and let them get on with the job of revival. I don’t know if even they would be able to do it, but it would be our best chance. There is certainly no confidence or hope with the current incompetent senior management structure.

Finally, folks, Colin Hendry, the biggest failure of all, WAS assisting Ian Bowyer with the reserves yesterday. So it looks like Kean’s man has inexplicably survived the cull.
Some good points rover60 - but forget getting Williams and Finn back. They left and went on to much better things. To be fair their departure was not an unusual event as it is par for the course when a new owner takes over a company. They like their own people in place naturally but good owners would usually bed things in first before they get shut of any key staff.
I can only think that Venkys did not understand what they were letting go when JW and TF went. A lot of bad stuff has happened for sure but we need to look forwards not backwards. Keep looking back and we will never make any progress. Number 1 hope is that Venkys sell the club soon but that is very unllikely - so Number 2 hope is that they can get to grips with the job of running BRFC in a proper manner now and on what we have seen so far then that is probably unlikely - so Number 3 hope is that I win the Euro Millions this week and can afford to buy the club. Within a week it would be Free season tickets for all Rovers fans, Free shirts and pies for all and Rooney, Ronaldo and Messi up front and that's just for starters...
[quote][p][bold]roverfor60years[/bold] wrote: Well, Shebby, you are now reaping what your and your employers have sown. If Venky’s had not torn up their takeover promises and cynically ripped the heart out of the club after vowing to respect the legacy of Jack Walker and keep the management team in place, you would not be in this black hole. It’s a forlorn hope warning the players to improve their performances – or else. Sadly, they are not up to it and the damage and despair that Venky’s have inflicted on the club now runs so deep that it will take years, if ever, to put things right. If only Venky’s – that very name will haunt 25,000 Blackburn Rovers supporters forever – hadn’t bulldozed their way into Ewood flattening everything in their path and instead had carefully taken stock of the entire club and how it was run things would have been a lot different today. The club’s infrastructure would have been intact, John Williams and Tom Finn would have been efficiently running the club for them, they wouldn’t have been ill-advised and robbed by agents, we would have been financially sound and still in the Premiership - and, yes, very likely in the top ten with players who were heart and soul in the club. There wouldn’t have been a scattergun and hopeless transfer policy and our players would still have been proud to pull on the famous Blackburn Rovers shirt. You have destroyed all that and now you are fire-fighting in the hope that you can turn things round. Sorry, too late. Venky’s have been repeatedly bombarded by a crescendo of warnings since the day they sacked Sam – simply because Agent Anderson wanted him out of the way. But they knew best. Yes, you have every right to be concerned. But all your problems are self-inflicted – and Venky’s were constantly warned about their catastrophic mismanagement. Nothing would stand in their way. John Williams was on his way out of the door when he very politely and constructively questioned Venky’s management policy. Further down the line of mistakes, failure and deterioration, deputy ceo Paul Hunt was unceremoniously sacked because Venky’s didn’t like the truth he told them. Amid it all, Steve Kean stood immune. And still those mistakes are being made. Why do you think Henning Berg can simply ‘go out’ and find a new coaching staff to solve all the problems? I, along with many others, warned you personally before the appointment of the new manager that you must appoint an experienced manager and back him with all the resources and support he required. It was your last chance. Again, good advice ignored. You knew best. You say you know in which direction you are headed. I seriously doubt it. The entire club will have to be overhauled if you are to have any hope of restoring it to what it was before two years of incomprehensible carnage. Get John Williams back as chairman and ceo and Tom Finn to return as managing director, whatever it takes, and let them get on with the job of revival. I don’t know if even they would be able to do it, but it would be our best chance. There is certainly no confidence or hope with the current incompetent senior management structure. Finally, folks, Colin Hendry, the biggest failure of all, WAS assisting Ian Bowyer with the reserves yesterday. So it looks like Kean’s man has inexplicably survived the cull.[/p][/quote]Some good points rover60 - but forget getting Williams and Finn back. They left and went on to much better things. To be fair their departure was not an unusual event as it is par for the course when a new owner takes over a company. They like their own people in place naturally but good owners would usually bed things in first before they get shut of any key staff. I can only think that Venkys did not understand what they were letting go when JW and TF went. A lot of bad stuff has happened for sure but we need to look forwards not backwards. Keep looking back and we will never make any progress. Number 1 hope is that Venkys sell the club soon but that is very unllikely - so Number 2 hope is that they can get to grips with the job of running BRFC in a proper manner now and on what we have seen so far then that is probably unlikely - so Number 3 hope is that I win the Euro Millions this week and can afford to buy the club. Within a week it would be Free season tickets for all Rovers fans, Free shirts and pies for all and Rooney, Ronaldo and Messi up front and that's just for starters... French Rover

1:39pm Wed 12 Dec 12

Harwoodstblue says...

bobinspain wrote:
juanbbien wrote:
Oh heck
You've got to hand it to Singh.
He's a master of motivation and a mullah of morale where shepherding his coaching staff are concerned.
Mind you, he's only been at the club for two years, so it's early days yet. He really should try his hand at organising pi$$ ups in breweries first though. Once (and if) he gets the hang of it, he could try again at running a football club, (preferably one outside Lancashire please).
You got it wrong Bob....Singh has only been at the club for a few short months and we already know he's a clown.
[quote][p][bold]bobinspain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]juanbbien[/bold] wrote: Oh heck[/p][/quote]You've got to hand it to Singh. He's a master of motivation and a mullah of morale where shepherding his coaching staff are concerned. Mind you, he's only been at the club for two years, so it's early days yet. He really should try his hand at organising pi$$ ups in breweries first though. Once (and if) he gets the hang of it, he could try again at running a football club, (preferably one outside Lancashire please).[/p][/quote]You got it wrong Bob....Singh has only been at the club for a few short months and we already know he's a clown. Harwoodstblue

1:42pm Wed 12 Dec 12

Iiii1111 says...

handyamBRFC wrote:
The problem with BRFC squad.
We simply have too many over the hill players in the squad and the team.
I personally believe we need to get rid of all players over 30ish as the game of football is faster and more energy is required.
over 30ish players simply cannot do...

Our teams are too soft to play against, we are simply spineless, gutless.
We need players who are hard, tough like Batty, Sherwood, etc.....players who can command the centre and dictate the play.
we need hardened players especially for the championship.
We def. need 2 central midfielders are are fast, skill full and young/energetic enough to last 90 minutes.
we need at least one central defender who should be quality.
we need a captain, A general.

ROBINSON is still okay & experienced
DANN is very poor
HANLEY is young and ok as backup
MURPHY is dead wood
ETUHU is dead wood
Dunn is old, slow and past it

too many other old & slow players in the team....get rid of
you only need a few elders in the squad.....In my view....!!

The young new players should be kept on, although not capable as yet for 1st team, maybe so for the future as they come from impoverished backgrounds and BRFC will have to build the young ones up....!!!

what do you think..??
agree/ disagree..?? your views plz.!
It amazes me that still some fans think Robinson is “okay”…….the defence has no confidence in him and that lack of confidences effects their own performances (admittedly no matter who the goalkeeper is some of the defenders need replacing)….I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again we let the wrong goalkeeper leave, Bunn was far superior to Robinson and younger to boot…….It’s no coincidence that the best two results since Venkeys took over away to Man U & Liverpool Bunn was between the post NOT Robinson……the defence seemed to gel and showed a great team spirit, then Bunn was dropped and we know what’s happened since……………
..the whole pattern of play is dictated by Robinson’s big boot and poor distribution besides the lack of confidence he spreads.
[quote][p][bold]handyamBRFC[/bold] wrote: The problem with BRFC squad. We simply have too many over the hill players in the squad and the team. I personally believe we need to get rid of all players over 30ish as the game of football is faster and more energy is required. over 30ish players simply cannot do... Our teams are too soft to play against, we are simply spineless, gutless. We need players who are hard, tough like Batty, Sherwood, etc.....players who can command the centre and dictate the play. we need hardened players especially for the championship. We def. need 2 central midfielders are are fast, skill full and young/energetic enough to last 90 minutes. we need at least one central defender who should be quality. we need a captain, A general. ROBINSON is still okay & experienced DANN is very poor HANLEY is young and ok as backup MURPHY is dead wood ETUHU is dead wood Dunn is old, slow and past it too many other old & slow players in the team....get rid of you only need a few elders in the squad.....In my view....!! The young new players should be kept on, although not capable as yet for 1st team, maybe so for the future as they come from impoverished backgrounds and BRFC will have to build the young ones up....!!! what do you think..?? agree/ disagree..?? your views plz.![/p][/quote]It amazes me that still some fans think Robinson is “okay”…….the defence has no confidence in him and that lack of confidences effects their own performances (admittedly no matter who the goalkeeper is some of the defenders need replacing)….I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again we let the wrong goalkeeper leave, Bunn was far superior to Robinson and younger to boot…….It’s no coincidence that the best two results since Venkeys took over away to Man U & Liverpool Bunn was between the post NOT Robinson……the defence seemed to gel and showed a great team spirit, then Bunn was dropped and we know what’s happened since…………… ..the whole pattern of play is dictated by Robinson’s big boot and poor distribution besides the lack of confidence he spreads. Iiii1111

1:42pm Wed 12 Dec 12

FCBurnley says...

Guy Laliberte is the man you need.
Guy Laliberte is the man you need. FCBurnley

1:46pm Wed 12 Dec 12

Bezza94-95 says...

ETUHU AND MURPHY HAVE NOT BEEN GOOD ENOUGH BUT I BELIEVE CAN BOTH IMPROVE WITH THE RIGHT COACHING.

HANLEY AND DANN ARE BOTH LOST CAUSES. IN ALL MY YEARS AT EWOOD I HAVE NEVER SEEN SUCH AN INEPT CENTRAL DEFENSIVE DUO.
SLOW, NO LEADERSHIP QUALITIES AND BOTH DON'T CONCENTRATE FOR THE FULL 90 MINUTES.

THEY ARE THE MAIN PROBLEM

GET 'EM BOTH OUT IN JAN AND REPLACE WITH AT LEAST SOME EXPERIENCE.

HANLEY NEEDS TO LOSE WEIGHT AND START CONCENTRATING ON BEING A PRO FOOTBALLER INSTEAD OF JUST THE HIGH LIFE THAT COMES WITH IT.
ETUHU AND MURPHY HAVE NOT BEEN GOOD ENOUGH BUT I BELIEVE CAN BOTH IMPROVE WITH THE RIGHT COACHING. HANLEY AND DANN ARE BOTH LOST CAUSES. IN ALL MY YEARS AT EWOOD I HAVE NEVER SEEN SUCH AN INEPT CENTRAL DEFENSIVE DUO. SLOW, NO LEADERSHIP QUALITIES AND BOTH DON'T CONCENTRATE FOR THE FULL 90 MINUTES. THEY ARE THE MAIN PROBLEM GET 'EM BOTH OUT IN JAN AND REPLACE WITH AT LEAST SOME EXPERIENCE. HANLEY NEEDS TO LOSE WEIGHT AND START CONCENTRATING ON BEING A PRO FOOTBALLER INSTEAD OF JUST THE HIGH LIFE THAT COMES WITH IT. Bezza94-95

1:47pm Wed 12 Dec 12

bobinspain says...

Riverside 7 wrote:
I believe the finger should also be pointing at the members of the Board who where responsible for Berg's appointment - namely Shebby, Shaw and Agnew.

This bunch of idiots took 5 weeks to identify Berg as the man to lead Rovers back to the Premier League this season.

Lets be honest, if most Rovers fans had been asked to name 10 people to succeed Kean I am certain that Berg's name would not have appeared in the 10.

I would dearly like to know how they arrived at their choice ahead of;-
1) international and former international team managers such as Trapattoni & Schuster,
2) experienced Premier League Managers such as Holloway & McCarthy,
3) successful overseas maagers such as Solskjaer,

I along with most Rovers fans were repared to give Berg our full support but I am afraid that after 8 games in charge Berg has done nothing to change my opinion that he was the wrong choice for Blackburn Rovers.

Just 5 points from a possible 24 is relegation form and we look nothing like a side that will challenge for promoton this year.

I will admit that he inherited an unbalanced and unfit squad of players
but he has done the impossible and got less out of the current squad than ether Kean or Black.
His team selections, formations use of substitutes have been very poor and warning bells ought to be sounding loud and clear.

If we lose on Saturday we ought to cut our losses now before giving him any money to spend in January and bring in Mark Hughes as soon as as posssible.

After all Hughes ticks the only box that appears to count to this Board - he was an ex-player.
I largely agree with your reasoned post with one exception:---- The selection process arriving at Berg was driven by two primary factors:
1. £££ (as Burnley found out to their cost with the appointment of Laws. The cheapest is never the best).
2. The position is now something of a 'poisoned chalice.'
The likes of Solskjaer wouldn't touch it with a bargepole and nor would any self-respecting 'established' figure.
My guess is you'll have to rely on the appointment of a 'young thruster' with promise, who's currently below the radar, or a has-been/never-will-
be of McCarthy's/Hughes' stature.

Bottom line is that 'you get what you pay for.' Singh's short arms and long pockets will be the final arbiter.
[quote][p][bold]Riverside 7[/bold] wrote: I believe the finger should also be pointing at the members of the Board who where responsible for Berg's appointment - namely Shebby, Shaw and Agnew. This bunch of idiots took 5 weeks to identify Berg as the man to lead Rovers back to the Premier League this season. Lets be honest, if most Rovers fans had been asked to name 10 people to succeed Kean I am certain that Berg's name would not have appeared in the 10. I would dearly like to know how they arrived at their choice ahead of;- 1) international and former international team managers such as Trapattoni & Schuster, 2) experienced Premier League Managers such as Holloway & McCarthy, 3) successful overseas maagers such as Solskjaer, I along with most Rovers fans were repared to give Berg our full support but I am afraid that after 8 games in charge Berg has done nothing to change my opinion that he was the wrong choice for Blackburn Rovers. Just 5 points from a possible 24 is relegation form and we look nothing like a side that will challenge for promoton this year. I will admit that he inherited an unbalanced and unfit squad of players but he has done the impossible and got less out of the current squad than ether Kean or Black. His team selections, formations use of substitutes have been very poor and warning bells ought to be sounding loud and clear. If we lose on Saturday we ought to cut our losses now before giving him any money to spend in January and bring in Mark Hughes as soon as as posssible. After all Hughes ticks the only box that appears to count to this Board - he was an ex-player.[/p][/quote]I largely agree with your reasoned post with one exception:---- The selection process arriving at Berg was driven by two primary factors: 1. £££ (as Burnley found out to their cost with the appointment of Laws. The cheapest is never the best). 2. The position is now something of a 'poisoned chalice.' The likes of Solskjaer wouldn't touch it with a bargepole and nor would any self-respecting 'established' figure. My guess is you'll have to rely on the appointment of a 'young thruster' with promise, who's currently below the radar, or a has-been/never-will- be of McCarthy's/Hughes' stature. Bottom line is that 'you get what you pay for.' Singh's short arms and long pockets will be the final arbiter. bobinspain

1:51pm Wed 12 Dec 12

Iiii1111 says...

GameRoverMan wrote:
"Colin Hendry is understood to be set to assist reserve team boss Gary Bowyer..." What, on a salary of £8K a week?
it was fishy with the ‘Bald one’ now it's even fishery with the ‘Big Un’…what have these Scots got on the club!!!!
[quote][p][bold]GameRoverMan[/bold] wrote: "Colin Hendry is understood to be set to assist reserve team boss Gary Bowyer..." What, on a salary of £8K a week?[/p][/quote]it was fishy with the ‘Bald one’ now it's even fishery with the ‘Big Un’…what have these Scots got on the club!!!! Iiii1111

1:58pm Wed 12 Dec 12

MatthewCA says...

Under performing players - List Them
Unhappy players - List Them

All the players put effort to build in rovers, respect them. Few players are just eating something and become a model. Orr just excape from this list, but he is still in rovers contract.

Good clear off all OLD NON performing players with big names too. Club want hungry players to play good football. Do it quickly....please.

Please insisit players role in the game and work as a team(Old and Young players need to improve the balance on each situvations). Last match Lowe dosen't know what position he is playing and horrible foul with cardiff player then pushing and got a yellow card.

Hope our good hungry players fight back soon. All the best.
Under performing players - List Them Unhappy players - List Them All the players put effort to build in rovers, respect them. Few players are just eating something and become a model. Orr just excape from this list, but he is still in rovers contract. Good clear off all OLD NON performing players with big names too. Club want hungry players to play good football. Do it quickly....please. Please insisit players role in the game and work as a team(Old and Young players need to improve the balance on each situvations). Last match Lowe dosen't know what position he is playing and horrible foul with cardiff player then pushing and got a yellow card. Hope our good hungry players fight back soon. All the best. MatthewCA

2:00pm Wed 12 Dec 12

bobinspain says...

Harwoodstblue wrote:
bobinspain wrote:
juanbbien wrote:
Oh heck
You've got to hand it to Singh.
He's a master of motivation and a mullah of morale where shepherding his coaching staff are concerned.
Mind you, he's only been at the club for two years, so it's early days yet. He really should try his hand at organising pi$$ ups in breweries first though. Once (and if) he gets the hang of it, he could try again at running a football club, (preferably one outside Lancashire please).
You got it wrong Bob....Singh has only been at the club for a few short months and we already know he's a clown.
My apologies Harwood.


I erroneously conflated Singh with Venky's and mistook them for folk of the same stripe.
They certainly appear to be so, in their desire to emasculate BRFC to the point of defenestration.
[quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bobinspain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]juanbbien[/bold] wrote: Oh heck[/p][/quote]You've got to hand it to Singh. He's a master of motivation and a mullah of morale where shepherding his coaching staff are concerned. Mind you, he's only been at the club for two years, so it's early days yet. He really should try his hand at organising pi$$ ups in breweries first though. Once (and if) he gets the hang of it, he could try again at running a football club, (preferably one outside Lancashire please).[/p][/quote]You got it wrong Bob....Singh has only been at the club for a few short months and we already know he's a clown.[/p][/quote]My apologies Harwood. I erroneously conflated Singh with Venky's and mistook them for folk of the same stripe. They certainly appear to be so, in their desire to emasculate BRFC to the point of defenestration. bobinspain

2:01pm Wed 12 Dec 12

madrover says...

if mimms is one of the top three goalkeeping coaches in the country should he not be telling robinson to lose weight because it effects his performance. Also give vuckevic a run in the side our best central midfielder by a mile. I would also recall edwards from rochdale and give the lad a chance doing very well
if mimms is one of the top three goalkeeping coaches in the country should he not be telling robinson to lose weight because it effects his performance. Also give vuckevic a run in the side our best central midfielder by a mile. I would also recall edwards from rochdale and give the lad a chance doing very well madrover

2:09pm Wed 12 Dec 12

roverfor60years says...

French Rover wrote:
roverfor60years wrote:
Well, Shebby, you are now reaping what your and your employers have sown. If Venky’s had not torn up their takeover promises and cynically ripped the heart out of the club after vowing to respect the legacy of Jack Walker and keep the management team in place, you would not be in this black hole.

It’s a forlorn hope warning the players to improve their performances – or else. Sadly, they are not up to it and the damage and despair that Venky’s have inflicted on the club now runs so deep that it will take years, if ever, to put things right.

If only Venky’s – that very name will haunt 25,000 Blackburn Rovers supporters forever – hadn’t bulldozed their way into Ewood flattening everything in their path and instead had carefully taken stock of the entire club and how it was run things would have been a lot different today.

The club’s infrastructure would have been intact, John Williams and Tom Finn would have been efficiently running the club for them, they wouldn’t have been ill-advised and robbed by agents, we would have been financially sound and still in the Premiership - and, yes, very likely in the top ten with players who were heart and soul in the club.

There wouldn’t have been a scattergun and hopeless transfer policy and our players would still have been proud to pull on the famous Blackburn Rovers shirt. You have destroyed all that and now you are fire-fighting in the hope that you can turn things round. Sorry, too late.

Venky’s have been repeatedly bombarded by a crescendo of warnings since the day they sacked Sam – simply because Agent Anderson wanted him out of the way. But they knew best.

Yes, you have every right to be concerned. But all your problems are self-inflicted – and Venky’s were constantly warned about their catastrophic mismanagement. Nothing would stand in their way.

John Williams was on his way out of the door when he very politely and constructively questioned Venky’s management policy. Further down the line of mistakes, failure and deterioration, deputy ceo Paul Hunt was unceremoniously sacked because Venky’s didn’t like the truth he told them.

Amid it all, Steve Kean stood immune.

And still those mistakes are being made. Why do you think Henning Berg can simply ‘go out’ and find a new coaching staff to solve all the problems?

I, along with many others, warned you personally before the appointment of the new manager that you must appoint an experienced manager and back him with all the resources and support he required. It was your last chance. Again, good advice ignored. You knew best.

You say you know in which direction you are headed. I seriously doubt it.

The entire club will have to be overhauled if you are to have any hope of restoring it to what it was before two years of incomprehensible carnage.

Get John Williams back as chairman and ceo and Tom Finn to return as managing director, whatever it takes, and let them get on with the job of revival. I don’t know if even they would be able to do it, but it would be our best chance. There is certainly no confidence or hope with the current incompetent senior management structure.

Finally, folks, Colin Hendry, the biggest failure of all, WAS assisting Ian Bowyer with the reserves yesterday. So it looks like Kean’s man has inexplicably survived the cull.
Some good points rover60 - but forget getting Williams and Finn back. They left and went on to much better things. To be fair their departure was not an unusual event as it is par for the course when a new owner takes over a company. They like their own people in place naturally but good owners would usually bed things in first before they get shut of any key staff.
I can only think that Venkys did not understand what they were letting go when JW and TF went. A lot of bad stuff has happened for sure but we need to look forwards not backwards. Keep looking back and we will never make any progress. Number 1 hope is that Venkys sell the club soon but that is very unllikely - so Number 2 hope is that they can get to grips with the job of running BRFC in a proper manner now and on what we have seen so far then that is probably unlikely - so Number 3 hope is that I win the Euro Millions this week and can afford to buy the club. Within a week it would be Free season tickets for all Rovers fans, Free shirts and pies for all and Rooney, Ronaldo and Messi up front and that's just for starters...
The departure WAS an unusual event, FR, because it was Agent Anderson who poisoned their minds to him. Neither he nor Venky’s spoke to John and theyv operated behind his back from the time of their takeover to the time of his departure.

They sure didn’t know what they were letting go because they had blind faith in Anderson – and how they have paid for that foolishness.

No I don’t expect they would get John back but I have an inclination that Tom Finn might be receptive – and he might just tempt his old buddy back. Could be wishful thinking though.

But it needs something similar to start with if we are to have any hope of revival.
[quote][p][bold]French Rover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]roverfor60years[/bold] wrote: Well, Shebby, you are now reaping what your and your employers have sown. If Venky’s had not torn up their takeover promises and cynically ripped the heart out of the club after vowing to respect the legacy of Jack Walker and keep the management team in place, you would not be in this black hole. It’s a forlorn hope warning the players to improve their performances – or else. Sadly, they are not up to it and the damage and despair that Venky’s have inflicted on the club now runs so deep that it will take years, if ever, to put things right. If only Venky’s – that very name will haunt 25,000 Blackburn Rovers supporters forever – hadn’t bulldozed their way into Ewood flattening everything in their path and instead had carefully taken stock of the entire club and how it was run things would have been a lot different today. The club’s infrastructure would have been intact, John Williams and Tom Finn would have been efficiently running the club for them, they wouldn’t have been ill-advised and robbed by agents, we would have been financially sound and still in the Premiership - and, yes, very likely in the top ten with players who were heart and soul in the club. There wouldn’t have been a scattergun and hopeless transfer policy and our players would still have been proud to pull on the famous Blackburn Rovers shirt. You have destroyed all that and now you are fire-fighting in the hope that you can turn things round. Sorry, too late. Venky’s have been repeatedly bombarded by a crescendo of warnings since the day they sacked Sam – simply because Agent Anderson wanted him out of the way. But they knew best. Yes, you have every right to be concerned. But all your problems are self-inflicted – and Venky’s were constantly warned about their catastrophic mismanagement. Nothing would stand in their way. John Williams was on his way out of the door when he very politely and constructively questioned Venky’s management policy. Further down the line of mistakes, failure and deterioration, deputy ceo Paul Hunt was unceremoniously sacked because Venky’s didn’t like the truth he told them. Amid it all, Steve Kean stood immune. And still those mistakes are being made. Why do you think Henning Berg can simply ‘go out’ and find a new coaching staff to solve all the problems? I, along with many others, warned you personally before the appointment of the new manager that you must appoint an experienced manager and back him with all the resources and support he required. It was your last chance. Again, good advice ignored. You knew best. You say you know in which direction you are headed. I seriously doubt it. The entire club will have to be overhauled if you are to have any hope of restoring it to what it was before two years of incomprehensible carnage. Get John Williams back as chairman and ceo and Tom Finn to return as managing director, whatever it takes, and let them get on with the job of revival. I don’t know if even they would be able to do it, but it would be our best chance. There is certainly no confidence or hope with the current incompetent senior management structure. Finally, folks, Colin Hendry, the biggest failure of all, WAS assisting Ian Bowyer with the reserves yesterday. So it looks like Kean’s man has inexplicably survived the cull.[/p][/quote]Some good points rover60 - but forget getting Williams and Finn back. They left and went on to much better things. To be fair their departure was not an unusual event as it is par for the course when a new owner takes over a company. They like their own people in place naturally but good owners would usually bed things in first before they get shut of any key staff. I can only think that Venkys did not understand what they were letting go when JW and TF went. A lot of bad stuff has happened for sure but we need to look forwards not backwards. Keep looking back and we will never make any progress. Number 1 hope is that Venkys sell the club soon but that is very unllikely - so Number 2 hope is that they can get to grips with the job of running BRFC in a proper manner now and on what we have seen so far then that is probably unlikely - so Number 3 hope is that I win the Euro Millions this week and can afford to buy the club. Within a week it would be Free season tickets for all Rovers fans, Free shirts and pies for all and Rooney, Ronaldo and Messi up front and that's just for starters...[/p][/quote]The departure WAS an unusual event, FR, because it was Agent Anderson who poisoned their minds to him. Neither he nor Venky’s spoke to John and theyv operated behind his back from the time of their takeover to the time of his departure. They sure didn’t know what they were letting go because they had blind faith in Anderson – and how they have paid for that foolishness. No I don’t expect they would get John back but I have an inclination that Tom Finn might be receptive – and he might just tempt his old buddy back. Could be wishful thinking though. But it needs something similar to start with if we are to have any hope of revival. roverfor60years

2:09pm Wed 12 Dec 12

Harwoodstblue says...

bobinspain wrote:
Harwoodstblue wrote:
bobinspain wrote:
juanbbien wrote:
Oh heck
You've got to hand it to Singh.
He's a master of motivation and a mullah of morale where shepherding his coaching staff are concerned.
Mind you, he's only been at the club for two years, so it's early days yet. He really should try his hand at organising pi$$ ups in breweries first though. Once (and if) he gets the hang of it, he could try again at running a football club, (preferably one outside Lancashire please).
You got it wrong Bob....Singh has only been at the club for a few short months and we already know he's a clown.
My apologies Harwood.


I erroneously conflated Singh with Venky's and mistook them for folk of the same stripe.
They certainly appear to be so, in their desire to emasculate BRFC to the point of defenestration.
Thank you Bob, We have known for the last two years exactly where we are heading under this lot. No surprises there then.
[quote][p][bold]bobinspain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bobinspain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]juanbbien[/bold] wrote: Oh heck[/p][/quote]You've got to hand it to Singh. He's a master of motivation and a mullah of morale where shepherding his coaching staff are concerned. Mind you, he's only been at the club for two years, so it's early days yet. He really should try his hand at organising pi$$ ups in breweries first though. Once (and if) he gets the hang of it, he could try again at running a football club, (preferably one outside Lancashire please).[/p][/quote]You got it wrong Bob....Singh has only been at the club for a few short months and we already know he's a clown.[/p][/quote]My apologies Harwood. I erroneously conflated Singh with Venky's and mistook them for folk of the same stripe. They certainly appear to be so, in their desire to emasculate BRFC to the point of defenestration.[/p][/quote]Thank you Bob, We have known for the last two years exactly where we are heading under this lot. No surprises there then. Harwoodstblue

2:10pm Wed 12 Dec 12

Nuttall Street says...

The first employee to be fired should be Shabby The Global Adviser himself. I have never seen a Global Adviser as good at swinging the axe in order to create a firebreak between himself and the flames.
I am all anticipation as no doubt is everyone to near The Global Adviser's "decisive decisions". Are those decisions which have an extra element of decision added to them or did Shabby mean to say "divisive decisions" that is those decisions designed to further alienate the fans. Shabby for Burnley, I say!
The first employee to be fired should be Shabby The Global Adviser himself. I have never seen a Global Adviser as good at swinging the axe in order to create a firebreak between himself and the flames. I am all anticipation as no doubt is everyone to near The Global Adviser's "decisive decisions". Are those decisions which have an extra element of decision added to them or did Shabby mean to say "divisive decisions" that is those decisions designed to further alienate the fans. Shabby for Burnley, I say! Nuttall Street

2:13pm Wed 12 Dec 12

Riverside 7 says...

bobinspain wrote:
Riverside 7 wrote:
I believe the finger should also be pointing at the members of the Board who where responsible for Berg's appointment - namely Shebby, Shaw and Agnew.

This bunch of idiots took 5 weeks to identify Berg as the man to lead Rovers back to the Premier League this season.

Lets be honest, if most Rovers fans had been asked to name 10 people to succeed Kean I am certain that Berg's name would not have appeared in the 10.

I would dearly like to know how they arrived at their choice ahead of;-
1) international and former international team managers such as Trapattoni & Schuster,
2) experienced Premier League Managers such as Holloway & McCarthy,
3) successful overseas maagers such as Solskjaer,

I along with most Rovers fans were repared to give Berg our full support but I am afraid that after 8 games in charge Berg has done nothing to change my opinion that he was the wrong choice for Blackburn Rovers.

Just 5 points from a possible 24 is relegation form and we look nothing like a side that will challenge for promoton this year.

I will admit that he inherited an unbalanced and unfit squad of players
but he has done the impossible and got less out of the current squad than ether Kean or Black.
His team selections, formations use of substitutes have been very poor and warning bells ought to be sounding loud and clear.

If we lose on Saturday we ought to cut our losses now before giving him any money to spend in January and bring in Mark Hughes as soon as as posssible.

After all Hughes ticks the only box that appears to count to this Board - he was an ex-player.
I largely agree with your reasoned post with one exception:---- The selection process arriving at Berg was driven by two primary factors:
1. £££ (as Burnley found out to their cost with the appointment of Laws. The cheapest is never the best).
2. The position is now something of a 'poisoned chalice.'
The likes of Solskjaer wouldn't touch it with a bargepole and nor would any self-respecting 'established' figure.
My guess is you'll have to rely on the appointment of a 'young thruster' with promise, who's currently below the radar, or a has-been/never-will-

be of McCarthy's/Hughes' stature.

Bottom line is that 'you get what you pay for.' Singh's short arms and long pockets will be the final arbiter.
As everyone knows Berg was the 'Cheap Option' but I doubt whether the Board will ever admit to that.

With regard to Blackburn Rovers being a 'poisoned chalice', I am sure that the chance of managing any club in the Championship which is in receipt of parachute payments worth millions of pounds would always appeal to the likes of Mccarthy etc.

Is that not the reason why Dougie Freedman moved from Palace to Bolton?
[quote][p][bold]bobinspain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Riverside 7[/bold] wrote: I believe the finger should also be pointing at the members of the Board who where responsible for Berg's appointment - namely Shebby, Shaw and Agnew. This bunch of idiots took 5 weeks to identify Berg as the man to lead Rovers back to the Premier League this season. Lets be honest, if most Rovers fans had been asked to name 10 people to succeed Kean I am certain that Berg's name would not have appeared in the 10. I would dearly like to know how they arrived at their choice ahead of;- 1) international and former international team managers such as Trapattoni & Schuster, 2) experienced Premier League Managers such as Holloway & McCarthy, 3) successful overseas maagers such as Solskjaer, I along with most Rovers fans were repared to give Berg our full support but I am afraid that after 8 games in charge Berg has done nothing to change my opinion that he was the wrong choice for Blackburn Rovers. Just 5 points from a possible 24 is relegation form and we look nothing like a side that will challenge for promoton this year. I will admit that he inherited an unbalanced and unfit squad of players but he has done the impossible and got less out of the current squad than ether Kean or Black. His team selections, formations use of substitutes have been very poor and warning bells ought to be sounding loud and clear. If we lose on Saturday we ought to cut our losses now before giving him any money to spend in January and bring in Mark Hughes as soon as as posssible. After all Hughes ticks the only box that appears to count to this Board - he was an ex-player.[/p][/quote]I largely agree with your reasoned post with one exception:---- The selection process arriving at Berg was driven by two primary factors: 1. £££ (as Burnley found out to their cost with the appointment of Laws. The cheapest is never the best). 2. The position is now something of a 'poisoned chalice.' The likes of Solskjaer wouldn't touch it with a bargepole and nor would any self-respecting 'established' figure. My guess is you'll have to rely on the appointment of a 'young thruster' with promise, who's currently below the radar, or a has-been/never-will- be of McCarthy's/Hughes' stature. Bottom line is that 'you get what you pay for.' Singh's short arms and long pockets will be the final arbiter.[/p][/quote]As everyone knows Berg was the 'Cheap Option' but I doubt whether the Board will ever admit to that. With regard to Blackburn Rovers being a 'poisoned chalice', I am sure that the chance of managing any club in the Championship which is in receipt of parachute payments worth millions of pounds would always appeal to the likes of Mccarthy etc. Is that not the reason why Dougie Freedman moved from Palace to Bolton? Riverside 7

2:14pm Wed 12 Dec 12

Ronaldpetercooper says...

French Rover wrote:
roverfor60years wrote: Well, Shebby, you are now reaping what your and your employers have sown. If Venky’s had not torn up their takeover promises and cynically ripped the heart out of the club after vowing to respect the legacy of Jack Walker and keep the management team in place, you would not be in this black hole. It’s a forlorn hope warning the players to improve their performances – or else. Sadly, they are not up to it and the damage and despair that Venky’s have inflicted on the club now runs so deep that it will take years, if ever, to put things right. If only Venky’s – that very name will haunt 25,000 Blackburn Rovers supporters forever – hadn’t bulldozed their way into Ewood flattening everything in their path and instead had carefully taken stock of the entire club and how it was run things would have been a lot different today. The club’s infrastructure would have been intact, John Williams and Tom Finn would have been efficiently running the club for them, they wouldn’t have been ill-advised and robbed by agents, we would have been financially sound and still in the Premiership - and, yes, very likely in the top ten with players who were heart and soul in the club. There wouldn’t have been a scattergun and hopeless transfer policy and our players would still have been proud to pull on the famous Blackburn Rovers shirt. You have destroyed all that and now you are fire-fighting in the hope that you can turn things round. Sorry, too late. Venky’s have been repeatedly bombarded by a crescendo of warnings since the day they sacked Sam – simply because Agent Anderson wanted him out of the way. But they knew best. Yes, you have every right to be concerned. But all your problems are self-inflicted – and Venky’s were constantly warned about their catastrophic mismanagement. Nothing would stand in their way. John Williams was on his way out of the door when he very politely and constructively questioned Venky’s management policy. Further down the line of mistakes, failure and deterioration, deputy ceo Paul Hunt was unceremoniously sacked because Venky’s didn’t like the truth he told them. Amid it all, Steve Kean stood immune. And still those mistakes are being made. Why do you think Henning Berg can simply ‘go out’ and find a new coaching staff to solve all the problems? I, along with many others, warned you personally before the appointment of the new manager that you must appoint an experienced manager and back him with all the resources and support he required. It was your last chance. Again, good advice ignored. You knew best. You say you know in which direction you are headed. I seriously doubt it. The entire club will have to be overhauled if you are to have any hope of restoring it to what it was before two years of incomprehensible carnage. Get John Williams back as chairman and ceo and Tom Finn to return as managing director, whatever it takes, and let them get on with the job of revival. I don’t know if even they would be able to do it, but it would be our best chance. There is certainly no confidence or hope with the current incompetent senior management structure. Finally, folks, Colin Hendry, the biggest failure of all, WAS assisting Ian Bowyer with the reserves yesterday. So it looks like Kean’s man has inexplicably survived the cull.
Some good points rover60 - but forget getting Williams and Finn back. They left and went on to much better things. To be fair their departure was not an unusual event as it is par for the course when a new owner takes over a company. They like their own people in place naturally but good owners would usually bed things in first before they get shut of any key staff. I can only think that Venkys did not understand what they were letting go when JW and TF went. A lot of bad stuff has happened for sure but we need to look forwards not backwards. Keep looking back and we will never make any progress. Number 1 hope is that Venkys sell the club soon but that is very unllikely - so Number 2 hope is that they can get to grips with the job of running BRFC in a proper manner now and on what we have seen so far then that is probably unlikely - so Number 3 hope is that I win the Euro Millions this week and can afford to buy the club. Within a week it would be Free season tickets for all Rovers fans, Free shirts and pies for all and Rooney, Ronaldo and Messi up front and that's just for starters...
Hi FR What would we do if we could not dream but sadly for most of our lives we live in the real world and only escape when we find our little bubble.
At least it would appear that after two years some reality may, and I say may, be afforded to we the fans. Mistakes have been made in bundles but it is not too late. We have all been saying for some time lets get rid of the old brigade put together by the genius Kean and get some decent backroom staff in especially a defensive coach and a fitness specialist. Give Berg the help he wants sell the players we do not need, and we all know who they are and buy a little bit of quality. I don't think if we use the loan system ,with agreed buy out clauses,that it needs to cost us mega money. Start with Palacios and see if Berg can use his contacts in Europe. Sell anyone if a decent price is offered and go on from there.Time dor a glass of that red stuff me thinks.
[quote][p][bold]French Rover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]roverfor60years[/bold] wrote: Well, Shebby, you are now reaping what your and your employers have sown. If Venky’s had not torn up their takeover promises and cynically ripped the heart out of the club after vowing to respect the legacy of Jack Walker and keep the management team in place, you would not be in this black hole. It’s a forlorn hope warning the players to improve their performances – or else. Sadly, they are not up to it and the damage and despair that Venky’s have inflicted on the club now runs so deep that it will take years, if ever, to put things right. If only Venky’s – that very name will haunt 25,000 Blackburn Rovers supporters forever – hadn’t bulldozed their way into Ewood flattening everything in their path and instead had carefully taken stock of the entire club and how it was run things would have been a lot different today. The club’s infrastructure would have been intact, John Williams and Tom Finn would have been efficiently running the club for them, they wouldn’t have been ill-advised and robbed by agents, we would have been financially sound and still in the Premiership - and, yes, very likely in the top ten with players who were heart and soul in the club. There wouldn’t have been a scattergun and hopeless transfer policy and our players would still have been proud to pull on the famous Blackburn Rovers shirt. You have destroyed all that and now you are fire-fighting in the hope that you can turn things round. Sorry, too late. Venky’s have been repeatedly bombarded by a crescendo of warnings since the day they sacked Sam – simply because Agent Anderson wanted him out of the way. But they knew best. Yes, you have every right to be concerned. But all your problems are self-inflicted – and Venky’s were constantly warned about their catastrophic mismanagement. Nothing would stand in their way. John Williams was on his way out of the door when he very politely and constructively questioned Venky’s management policy. Further down the line of mistakes, failure and deterioration, deputy ceo Paul Hunt was unceremoniously sacked because Venky’s didn’t like the truth he told them. Amid it all, Steve Kean stood immune. And still those mistakes are being made. Why do you think Henning Berg can simply ‘go out’ and find a new coaching staff to solve all the problems? I, along with many others, warned you personally before the appointment of the new manager that you must appoint an experienced manager and back him with all the resources and support he required. It was your last chance. Again, good advice ignored. You knew best. You say you know in which direction you are headed. I seriously doubt it. The entire club will have to be overhauled if you are to have any hope of restoring it to what it was before two years of incomprehensible carnage. Get John Williams back as chairman and ceo and Tom Finn to return as managing director, whatever it takes, and let them get on with the job of revival. I don’t know if even they would be able to do it, but it would be our best chance. There is certainly no confidence or hope with the current incompetent senior management structure. Finally, folks, Colin Hendry, the biggest failure of all, WAS assisting Ian Bowyer with the reserves yesterday. So it looks like Kean’s man has inexplicably survived the cull.[/p][/quote]Some good points rover60 - but forget getting Williams and Finn back. They left and went on to much better things. To be fair their departure was not an unusual event as it is par for the course when a new owner takes over a company. They like their own people in place naturally but good owners would usually bed things in first before they get shut of any key staff. I can only think that Venkys did not understand what they were letting go when JW and TF went. A lot of bad stuff has happened for sure but we need to look forwards not backwards. Keep looking back and we will never make any progress. Number 1 hope is that Venkys sell the club soon but that is very unllikely - so Number 2 hope is that they can get to grips with the job of running BRFC in a proper manner now and on what we have seen so far then that is probably unlikely - so Number 3 hope is that I win the Euro Millions this week and can afford to buy the club. Within a week it would be Free season tickets for all Rovers fans, Free shirts and pies for all and Rooney, Ronaldo and Messi up front and that's just for starters...[/p][/quote]Hi FR What would we do if we could not dream but sadly for most of our lives we live in the real world and only escape when we find our little bubble. At least it would appear that after two years some reality may, and I say may, be afforded to we the fans. Mistakes have been made in bundles but it is not too late. We have all been saying for some time lets get rid of the old brigade put together by the genius Kean and get some decent backroom staff in especially a defensive coach and a fitness specialist. Give Berg the help he wants sell the players we do not need, and we all know who they are and buy a little bit of quality. I don't think if we use the loan system ,with agreed buy out clauses,that it needs to cost us mega money. Start with Palacios and see if Berg can use his contacts in Europe. Sell anyone if a decent price is offered and go on from there.Time dor a glass of that red stuff me thinks. Ronaldpetercooper

2:14pm Wed 12 Dec 12

A Darener says...

Sorry matthewCA but your grasp of written English is getting worse not better. I think a visit to a tutor is called for. However much we love hearing from you your rambling are getting too difficult to decipher.
Sorry matthewCA but your grasp of written English is getting worse not better. I think a visit to a tutor is called for. However much we love hearing from you your rambling are getting too difficult to decipher. A Darener

2:15pm Wed 12 Dec 12

bburnrover says...

Under performing players? Who does he mean exactly? Dann Hanley Lowe Murphy etc etc? Who brought these players to Ewood Shebby? Kean wasnt allowed to select who he wanted and to be fair to him he wanted better quality than he got when we were in the Premiership.
Please forget about the coaching staff for now and concentrate on the players as we need two new CBs and someone in midfield to replace Lowe who seems to play the wrong way all the time as he rarely makes a telling forward pass.
Under performing players? Who does he mean exactly? Dann Hanley Lowe Murphy etc etc? Who brought these players to Ewood Shebby? Kean wasnt allowed to select who he wanted and to be fair to him he wanted better quality than he got when we were in the Premiership. Please forget about the coaching staff for now and concentrate on the players as we need two new CBs and someone in midfield to replace Lowe who seems to play the wrong way all the time as he rarely makes a telling forward pass. bburnrover

2:21pm Wed 12 Dec 12

juanbbien says...

MatthewCA wrote:
Under performing players - List Them
Unhappy players - List Them

All the players put effort to build in rovers, respect them. Few players are just eating something and become a model. Orr just excape from this list, but he is still in rovers contract.

Good clear off all OLD NON performing players with big names too. Club want hungry players to play good football. Do it quickly....please.

Please insisit players role in the game and work as a team(Old and Young players need to improve the balance on each situvations). Last match Lowe dosen't know what position he is playing and horrible foul with cardiff player then pushing and got a yellow card.

Hope our good hungry players fight back soon. All the best.
I'm going to take this letter to the Chemist and get it made up
[quote][p][bold]MatthewCA[/bold] wrote: Under performing players - List Them Unhappy players - List Them All the players put effort to build in rovers, respect them. Few players are just eating something and become a model. Orr just excape from this list, but he is still in rovers contract. Good clear off all OLD NON performing players with big names too. Club want hungry players to play good football. Do it quickly....please. Please insisit players role in the game and work as a team(Old and Young players need to improve the balance on each situvations). Last match Lowe dosen't know what position he is playing and horrible foul with cardiff player then pushing and got a yellow card. Hope our good hungry players fight back soon. All the best.[/p][/quote]I'm going to take this letter to the Chemist and get it made up juanbbien

2:22pm Wed 12 Dec 12

Lancs - pensioner says...

On the management appointment, did the LET not report that HB just rang up for the job two days after Kean left?

This being the case why did it take weeks to hire him and I repeat why did two managers withdraw there applications for the job?

Keans gone but he was never the main problem Venkys where fullstop.

Going back to HBs appointment, if you pay peanut you get !!!!!!!!
On the management appointment, did the LET not report that HB just rang up for the job two days after Kean left? This being the case why did it take weeks to hire him and I repeat why did two managers withdraw there applications for the job? Keans gone but he was never the main problem Venkys where fullstop. Going back to HBs appointment, if you pay peanut you get !!!!!!!! Lancs - pensioner

2:31pm Wed 12 Dec 12

Keen O to Get Kean Out says...

Singh Venkys Kean Hendry Berg All the Players (barring Robinson And Givet)
Have absolutely No Effin Idea or track record about how to manage sucessfull club in any league never mind 'decisive' actions, who TF does Singh think he his,, he made these knee jerk cowboy sytle 'payin peanuts getting monkeys' appointments in the first place..Relgation and a PNE fallout is seriously on the cards lads
Singh Venkys Kean Hendry Berg All the Players (barring Robinson And Givet) Have absolutely No Effin Idea or track record about how to manage sucessfull club in any league never mind 'decisive' actions, who TF does Singh think he his,, he made these knee jerk cowboy sytle 'payin peanuts getting monkeys' appointments in the first place..Relgation and a PNE fallout is seriously on the cards lads Keen O to Get Kean Out

2:45pm Wed 12 Dec 12

penrithrover says...

In Shakespeares Hamlet he said 'There is something Rotten in the state of Denmark " .
Well there might be ! But not anywhere near as rotten as the state of Blackburn Rovers .
Robert Coar is still a Blackburn Rovers board member , he failed in his efforts 20 years ago when he unsuccessfully tried to get on the board at Burnley , he and always has been a dingle.
Coar befriended Howard Walker ,because he likes rich people , but the question is ,why is he Howard Walker so desperate to get his 150,000 pounds back that Hendry owed him when Hendry went bankrupt ?
Surely H. Walker is rich enough to take the 150k on the chin and get the scoundrel out of Rovers.
Why do we have to keep the now hated Hendry at Rovers ?

Quite honestly the man should be locked up in jail for a long time for swindling , stealing and bashing up women.
Coar/Hendry/Singh/ clearly are running the pantomine now.
Are these clowns serious about releasing Eric Black Ian Brunskill, Bobby Minns , all honourable men and keeping Hendry , there is something stinking going on.

There is a definite some agenda going on , all the good men have left or are going and we are left with criminals.
Is Singh a sickly wee wimpy parrot who has not any honesty or integrity nor has an original thought between his ears ?
In Shakespeares Hamlet he said 'There is something Rotten in the state of Denmark " . Well there might be ! But not anywhere near as rotten as the state of Blackburn Rovers . Robert Coar is still a Blackburn Rovers board member , he failed in his efforts 20 years ago when he unsuccessfully tried to get on the board at Burnley , he and always has been a dingle. Coar befriended Howard Walker ,because he likes rich people , but the question is ,why is he Howard Walker so desperate to get his 150,000 pounds back that Hendry owed him when Hendry went bankrupt ? Surely H. Walker is rich enough to take the 150k on the chin and get the scoundrel out of Rovers. Why do we have to keep the now hated Hendry at Rovers ? Quite honestly the man should be locked up in jail for a long time for swindling , stealing and bashing up women. Coar/Hendry/Singh/ clearly are running the pantomine now. Are these clowns serious about releasing Eric Black Ian Brunskill, Bobby Minns , all honourable men and keeping Hendry , there is something stinking going on. There is a definite some agenda going on , all the good men have left or are going and we are left with criminals. Is Singh a sickly wee wimpy parrot who has not any honesty or integrity nor has an original thought between his ears ? penrithrover

2:52pm Wed 12 Dec 12

French Rover says...

Ronaldpetercooper wrote:
French Rover wrote:
roverfor60years wrote: Well, Shebby, you are now reaping what your and your employers have sown. If Venky’s had not torn up their takeover promises and cynically ripped the heart out of the club after vowing to respect the legacy of Jack Walker and keep the management team in place, you would not be in this black hole. It’s a forlorn hope warning the players to improve their performances – or else. Sadly, they are not up to it and the damage and despair that Venky’s have inflicted on the club now runs so deep that it will take years, if ever, to put things right. If only Venky’s – that very name will haunt 25,000 Blackburn Rovers supporters forever – hadn’t bulldozed their way into Ewood flattening everything in their path and instead had carefully taken stock of the entire club and how it was run things would have been a lot different today. The club’s infrastructure would have been intact, John Williams and Tom Finn would have been efficiently running the club for them, they wouldn’t have been ill-advised and robbed by agents, we would have been financially sound and still in the Premiership - and, yes, very likely in the top ten with players who were heart and soul in the club. There wouldn’t have been a scattergun and hopeless transfer policy and our players would still have been proud to pull on the famous Blackburn Rovers shirt. You have destroyed all that and now you are fire-fighting in the hope that you can turn things round. Sorry, too late. Venky’s have been repeatedly bombarded by a crescendo of warnings since the day they sacked Sam – simply because Agent Anderson wanted him out of the way. But they knew best. Yes, you have every right to be concerned. But all your problems are self-inflicted – and Venky’s were constantly warned about their catastrophic mismanagement. Nothing would stand in their way. John Williams was on his way out of the door when he very politely and constructively questioned Venky’s management policy. Further down the line of mistakes, failure and deterioration, deputy ceo Paul Hunt was unceremoniously sacked because Venky’s didn’t like the truth he told them. Amid it all, Steve Kean stood immune. And still those mistakes are being made. Why do you think Henning Berg can simply ‘go out’ and find a new coaching staff to solve all the problems? I, along with many others, warned you personally before the appointment of the new manager that you must appoint an experienced manager and back him with all the resources and support he required. It was your last chance. Again, good advice ignored. You knew best. You say you know in which direction you are headed. I seriously doubt it. The entire club will have to be overhauled if you are to have any hope of restoring it to what it was before two years of incomprehensible carnage. Get John Williams back as chairman and ceo and Tom Finn to return as managing director, whatever it takes, and let them get on with the job of revival. I don’t know if even they would be able to do it, but it would be our best chance. There is certainly no confidence or hope with the current incompetent senior management structure. Finally, folks, Colin Hendry, the biggest failure of all, WAS assisting Ian Bowyer with the reserves yesterday. So it looks like Kean’s man has inexplicably survived the cull.
Some good points rover60 - but forget getting Williams and Finn back. They left and went on to much better things. To be fair their departure was not an unusual event as it is par for the course when a new owner takes over a company. They like their own people in place naturally but good owners would usually bed things in first before they get shut of any key staff. I can only think that Venkys did not understand what they were letting go when JW and TF went. A lot of bad stuff has happened for sure but we need to look forwards not backwards. Keep looking back and we will never make any progress. Number 1 hope is that Venkys sell the club soon but that is very unllikely - so Number 2 hope is that they can get to grips with the job of running BRFC in a proper manner now and on what we have seen so far then that is probably unlikely - so Number 3 hope is that I win the Euro Millions this week and can afford to buy the club. Within a week it would be Free season tickets for all Rovers fans, Free shirts and pies for all and Rooney, Ronaldo and Messi up front and that's just for starters...
Hi FR What would we do if we could not dream but sadly for most of our lives we live in the real world and only escape when we find our little bubble.
At least it would appear that after two years some reality may, and I say may, be afforded to we the fans. Mistakes have been made in bundles but it is not too late. We have all been saying for some time lets get rid of the old brigade put together by the genius Kean and get some decent backroom staff in especially a defensive coach and a fitness specialist. Give Berg the help he wants sell the players we do not need, and we all know who they are and buy a little bit of quality. I don't think if we use the loan system ,with agreed buy out clauses,that it needs to cost us mega money. Start with Palacios and see if Berg can use his contacts in Europe. Sell anyone if a decent price is offered and go on from there.Time dor a glass of that red stuff me thinks.
I have several bottles of a very nice Bergerac Red (Moulin Pouzy) stacked-up in the wine rack - but there they will remain until we get our next consecutive home wins RPC....abstinence makes the thirst grow stronger or something like that!.
[quote][p][bold]Ronaldpetercooper[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]French Rover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]roverfor60years[/bold] wrote: Well, Shebby, you are now reaping what your and your employers have sown. If Venky’s had not torn up their takeover promises and cynically ripped the heart out of the club after vowing to respect the legacy of Jack Walker and keep the management team in place, you would not be in this black hole. It’s a forlorn hope warning the players to improve their performances – or else. Sadly, they are not up to it and the damage and despair that Venky’s have inflicted on the club now runs so deep that it will take years, if ever, to put things right. If only Venky’s – that very name will haunt 25,000 Blackburn Rovers supporters forever – hadn’t bulldozed their way into Ewood flattening everything in their path and instead had carefully taken stock of the entire club and how it was run things would have been a lot different today. The club’s infrastructure would have been intact, John Williams and Tom Finn would have been efficiently running the club for them, they wouldn’t have been ill-advised and robbed by agents, we would have been financially sound and still in the Premiership - and, yes, very likely in the top ten with players who were heart and soul in the club. There wouldn’t have been a scattergun and hopeless transfer policy and our players would still have been proud to pull on the famous Blackburn Rovers shirt. You have destroyed all that and now you are fire-fighting in the hope that you can turn things round. Sorry, too late. Venky’s have been repeatedly bombarded by a crescendo of warnings since the day they sacked Sam – simply because Agent Anderson wanted him out of the way. But they knew best. Yes, you have every right to be concerned. But all your problems are self-inflicted – and Venky’s were constantly warned about their catastrophic mismanagement. Nothing would stand in their way. John Williams was on his way out of the door when he very politely and constructively questioned Venky’s management policy. Further down the line of mistakes, failure and deterioration, deputy ceo Paul Hunt was unceremoniously sacked because Venky’s didn’t like the truth he told them. Amid it all, Steve Kean stood immune. And still those mistakes are being made. Why do you think Henning Berg can simply ‘go out’ and find a new coaching staff to solve all the problems? I, along with many others, warned you personally before the appointment of the new manager that you must appoint an experienced manager and back him with all the resources and support he required. It was your last chance. Again, good advice ignored. You knew best. You say you know in which direction you are headed. I seriously doubt it. The entire club will have to be overhauled if you are to have any hope of restoring it to what it was before two years of incomprehensible carnage. Get John Williams back as chairman and ceo and Tom Finn to return as managing director, whatever it takes, and let them get on with the job of revival. I don’t know if even they would be able to do it, but it would be our best chance. There is certainly no confidence or hope with the current incompetent senior management structure. Finally, folks, Colin Hendry, the biggest failure of all, WAS assisting Ian Bowyer with the reserves yesterday. So it looks like Kean’s man has inexplicably survived the cull.[/p][/quote]Some good points rover60 - but forget getting Williams and Finn back. They left and went on to much better things. To be fair their departure was not an unusual event as it is par for the course when a new owner takes over a company. They like their own people in place naturally but good owners would usually bed things in first before they get shut of any key staff. I can only think that Venkys did not understand what they were letting go when JW and TF went. A lot of bad stuff has happened for sure but we need to look forwards not backwards. Keep looking back and we will never make any progress. Number 1 hope is that Venkys sell the club soon but that is very unllikely - so Number 2 hope is that they can get to grips with the job of running BRFC in a proper manner now and on what we have seen so far then that is probably unlikely - so Number 3 hope is that I win the Euro Millions this week and can afford to buy the club. Within a week it would be Free season tickets for all Rovers fans, Free shirts and pies for all and Rooney, Ronaldo and Messi up front and that's just for starters...[/p][/quote]Hi FR What would we do if we could not dream but sadly for most of our lives we live in the real world and only escape when we find our little bubble. At least it would appear that after two years some reality may, and I say may, be afforded to we the fans. Mistakes have been made in bundles but it is not too late. We have all been saying for some time lets get rid of the old brigade put together by the genius Kean and get some decent backroom staff in especially a defensive coach and a fitness specialist. Give Berg the help he wants sell the players we do not need, and we all know who they are and buy a little bit of quality. I don't think if we use the loan system ,with agreed buy out clauses,that it needs to cost us mega money. Start with Palacios and see if Berg can use his contacts in Europe. Sell anyone if a decent price is offered and go on from there.Time dor a glass of that red stuff me thinks.[/p][/quote]I have several bottles of a very nice Bergerac Red (Moulin Pouzy) stacked-up in the wine rack - but there they will remain until we get our next consecutive home wins RPC....abstinence makes the thirst grow stronger or something like that!. French Rover

2:54pm Wed 12 Dec 12

Keen O to Get Kean Out says...

penrithrover wrote:
In Shakespeares Hamlet he said 'There is something Rotten in the state of Denmark " . Well there might be ! But not anywhere near as rotten as the state of Blackburn Rovers . Robert Coar is still a Blackburn Rovers board member , he failed in his efforts 20 years ago when he unsuccessfully tried to get on the board at Burnley , he and always has been a dingle. Coar befriended Howard Walker ,because he likes rich people , but the question is ,why is he Howard Walker so desperate to get his 150,000 pounds back that Hendry owed him when Hendry went bankrupt ? Surely H. Walker is rich enough to take the 150k on the chin and get the scoundrel out of Rovers. Why do we have to keep the now hated Hendry at Rovers ? Quite honestly the man should be locked up in jail for a long time for swindling , stealing and bashing up women. Coar/Hendry/Singh/ clearly are running the pantomine now. Are these clowns serious about releasing Eric Black Ian Brunskill, Bobby Minns , all honourable men and keeping Hendry , there is something stinking going on. There is a definite some agenda going on , all the good men have left or are going and we are left with criminals. Is Singh a sickly wee wimpy parrot who has not any honesty or integrity nor has an original thought between his ears ?
Singh has been sent by Mrs Desai to take every possible penny out of the club and then switch the lights out..Venkys agenda was to make cash, they saw a potential to assett strip and its very clear what they are doing. Eric Black, Brunnskill and Mimms are all on good wages ,, so its Venkys policy that they have to go if we dont get promotion. simple
[quote][p][bold]penrithrover[/bold] wrote: In Shakespeares Hamlet he said 'There is something Rotten in the state of Denmark " . Well there might be ! But not anywhere near as rotten as the state of Blackburn Rovers . Robert Coar is still a Blackburn Rovers board member , he failed in his efforts 20 years ago when he unsuccessfully tried to get on the board at Burnley , he and always has been a dingle. Coar befriended Howard Walker ,because he likes rich people , but the question is ,why is he Howard Walker so desperate to get his 150,000 pounds back that Hendry owed him when Hendry went bankrupt ? Surely H. Walker is rich enough to take the 150k on the chin and get the scoundrel out of Rovers. Why do we have to keep the now hated Hendry at Rovers ? Quite honestly the man should be locked up in jail for a long time for swindling , stealing and bashing up women. Coar/Hendry/Singh/ clearly are running the pantomine now. Are these clowns serious about releasing Eric Black Ian Brunskill, Bobby Minns , all honourable men and keeping Hendry , there is something stinking going on. There is a definite some agenda going on , all the good men have left or are going and we are left with criminals. Is Singh a sickly wee wimpy parrot who has not any honesty or integrity nor has an original thought between his ears ?[/p][/quote]Singh has been sent by Mrs Desai to take every possible penny out of the club and then switch the lights out..Venkys agenda was to make cash, they saw a potential to assett strip and its very clear what they are doing. Eric Black, Brunnskill and Mimms are all on good wages ,, so its Venkys policy that they have to go if we dont get promotion. simple Keen O to Get Kean Out

2:56pm Wed 12 Dec 12

dangerous dave says...

If it is true and Hendry is staying in some capacity then this is just another example of how badly the club is being run by the Senior Management which includes our so called idiotic 'Global Adviser' - Hendry as defensive coach should be one of the first to go!!!!
Just listened to Hanley interview on LR - he must have been playing in different games to the one's I've seen - he says results start from a solid difence and we've played well and been unlucky - what a bloody joke!!!
As for Messrs Shaw and Agnew - in their senior rolls within the club part of their job is to over see due diligence in respect of day to day operations and of course the accounting procedures - yet another farcical situation when the Auditors cant even sign off the accounts because there isnt enough factual information to support a true set of figures - again an absolute sham!!!! And Agnew 'his own words' my new roll enables me to be more informative towards the fans - yet we never hear a bloody word from him - yes another overpaid idiot!!!!
Ewood park is on its way to becoming a complete morgue with this current Management Team - yes I am afraid they are the walking dead!!!!!!!
OUT WITH SHAW AGNEW SINGH BLACK AND ABSOLUTELY 'HENDRY' AND MAY BE BERG!!!!
If it is true and Hendry is staying in some capacity then this is just another example of how badly the club is being run by the Senior Management which includes our so called idiotic 'Global Adviser' - Hendry as defensive coach should be one of the first to go!!!! Just listened to Hanley interview on LR - he must have been playing in different games to the one's I've seen - he says results start from a solid difence and we've played well and been unlucky - what a bloody joke!!! As for Messrs Shaw and Agnew - in their senior rolls within the club part of their job is to over see due diligence in respect of day to day operations and of course the accounting procedures - yet another farcical situation when the Auditors cant even sign off the accounts because there isnt enough factual information to support a true set of figures - again an absolute sham!!!! And Agnew 'his own words' my new roll enables me to be more informative towards the fans - yet we never hear a bloody word from him - yes another overpaid idiot!!!! Ewood park is on its way to becoming a complete morgue with this current Management Team - yes I am afraid they are the walking dead!!!!!!! OUT WITH SHAW AGNEW SINGH BLACK AND ABSOLUTELY 'HENDRY' AND MAY BE BERG!!!! dangerous dave

2:57pm Wed 12 Dec 12

noddymcleod says...

Never count your blessings, just as we were rejoicing in Shabby's unusual silence he bounces back with more verbal diarrhoea.
Sure Berg was the cheap option, but you can't blame Berg for grabbing the chance to take over and he knew he couldn't immediately bargain for a better staff and player. He was obviously given a take-it-or-leave it choice. It seems that there are obvious untouchables for Berg, most likely silly contracts entered into by Keano and Shabby, and if you've got useless players on high wages in a weird way you've no option but to play them - most applicable to Etuhu and Murphy.
Berg clearly hasn't got the full backing of Venkys accountants back in Pune. Even the dimmest member of the Venky clan now realises they can never fullfill their initial mad idea that they could effortlessly cut a figure as the first Indians to own a Premieship high achieving team.
I imagine they already have their exit strategy ready as does motor-mouth Shabby. Berg remains our best chance of salvaging something from the wreckage. What that is dimishes weekly, at the moment most of us woud settle for surving in this division and Berg assembling a half-way decent team.
Grim, grim, those of us who feared Venkys would prove to be the end of our beloved over-achieving Rovers were right. There still the nightmare scenario of financial collapse.
I went to the Bolton game, my first of the season, and it was the worst atmosphere I've experienced amongst the fans, no hope, no expectation. It wasn't this bad when we were in the relegation zone of the old third division. Frequently under Kean I was annoyed and exasperated - last week I was just sad.
The sheer scale of finance needed to make a go of a provincial town team is beyond any scenario I can imagine for Rovers.
RIP
Never count your blessings, just as we were rejoicing in Shabby's unusual silence he bounces back with more verbal diarrhoea. Sure Berg was the cheap option, but you can't blame Berg for grabbing the chance to take over and he knew he couldn't immediately bargain for a better staff and player. He was obviously given a take-it-or-leave it choice. It seems that there are obvious untouchables for Berg, most likely silly contracts entered into by Keano and Shabby, and if you've got useless players on high wages in a weird way you've no option but to play them - most applicable to Etuhu and Murphy. Berg clearly hasn't got the full backing of Venkys accountants back in Pune. Even the dimmest member of the Venky clan now realises they can never fullfill their initial mad idea that they could effortlessly cut a figure as the first Indians to own a Premieship high achieving team. I imagine they already have their exit strategy ready as does motor-mouth Shabby. Berg remains our best chance of salvaging something from the wreckage. What that is dimishes weekly, at the moment most of us woud settle for surving in this division and Berg assembling a half-way decent team. Grim, grim, those of us who feared Venkys would prove to be the end of our beloved over-achieving Rovers were right. There still the nightmare scenario of financial collapse. I went to the Bolton game, my first of the season, and it was the worst atmosphere I've experienced amongst the fans, no hope, no expectation. It wasn't this bad when we were in the relegation zone of the old third division. Frequently under Kean I was annoyed and exasperated - last week I was just sad. The sheer scale of finance needed to make a go of a provincial town team is beyond any scenario I can imagine for Rovers. RIP noddymcleod

2:59pm Wed 12 Dec 12

Ray Gunn says...

shebby...you and Berg keep banging on about the "play-off places"...with all the promises made by yourself and the chicken farmers we should be focust on and aiming for the automatic spot...you lot make me sick...we've gone from a team that venkys say could qualify for the campions league to a team having to vastly improve to even have a look in at promotion from the championship via the play-offs....i dont blame Berg, not in the slightest, if someone offered you a job as a manager with a good pay package, any one of us would take it...any manage worth his salt wouldnt touch us with a barge pole...the only manager that would have took the job on was rednap, but the chicken farmers didnt want a manager with a mind of his own...the people responsible for the position of our club and our disheartend fans are the VENKYS...no one else
shebby...you and Berg keep banging on about the "play-off places"...with all the promises made by yourself and the chicken farmers we should be focust on and aiming for the automatic spot...you lot make me sick...we've gone from a team that venkys say could qualify for the campions league to a team having to vastly improve to even have a look in at promotion from the championship via the play-offs....i dont blame Berg, not in the slightest, if someone offered you a job as a manager with a good pay package, any one of us would take it...any manage worth his salt wouldnt touch us with a barge pole...the only manager that would have took the job on was rednap, but the chicken farmers didnt want a manager with a mind of his own...the people responsible for the position of our club and our disheartend fans are the VENKYS...no one else Ray Gunn

3:01pm Wed 12 Dec 12

claretandblue says...

Harwoodstblue wrote:
Lancs - pensioner wrote:
Lancs - pensioner wrote:
Crow27 wrote:
Ibelieve a few of things need to happen;
1) Don't let these four get together again, p**s up, brewery etc.
2) Let Berg have his own staff no matter how much, the Venkys have made a profit from us.
3) Let Berg get rid of players he doesn't want. If he is the manager he should be allowed to do this!
4) Play Givet!
5) Get rid of a useless defence coach/pension robber/girlfriend beater
6) play two up front

Anymore?
Yes Venkys....Make available the £5 million pounds each transfer window as you Promised.
You've just spent 8 million on a striker you muppet! What more do you want? Tell you what...why don't you try something radical....like getting behind your team. You've no divine right to be in the premier league. Get over it. You're back where you belong. For the time being!
[quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lancs - pensioner[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lancs - pensioner[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Crow27[/bold] wrote: Ibelieve a few of things need to happen; 1) Don't let these four get together again, p**s up, brewery etc. 2) Let Berg have his own staff no matter how much, the Venkys have made a profit from us. 3) Let Berg get rid of players he doesn't want. If he is the manager he should be allowed to do this! 4) Play Givet![/p][/quote]5) Get rid of a useless defence coach/pension robber/girlfriend beater[/p][/quote]6) play two up front Anymore?[/p][/quote]Yes Venkys....Make available the £5 million pounds each transfer window as you Promised.[/p][/quote]You've just spent 8 million on a striker you muppet! What more do you want? Tell you what...why don't you try something radical....like getting behind your team. You've no divine right to be in the premier league. Get over it. You're back where you belong. For the time being! claretandblue

3:04pm Wed 12 Dec 12

Keen O to Get Kean Out says...

roverfor60years wrote:
Well, Shebby, you are now reaping what your and your employers have sown. If Venky’s had not torn up their takeover promises and cynically ripped the heart out of the club after vowing to respect the legacy of Jack Walker and keep the management team in place, you would not be in this black hole. It’s a forlorn hope warning the players to improve their performances – or else. Sadly, they are not up to it and the damage and despair that Venky’s have inflicted on the club now runs so deep that it will take years, if ever, to put things right. If only Venky’s – that very name will haunt 25,000 Blackburn Rovers supporters forever – hadn’t bulldozed their way into Ewood flattening everything in their path and instead had carefully taken stock of the entire club and how it was run things would have been a lot different today. The club’s infrastructure would have been intact, John Williams and Tom Finn would have been efficiently running the club for them, they wouldn’t have been ill-advised and robbed by agents, we would have been financially sound and still in the Premiership - and, yes, very likely in the top ten with players who were heart and soul in the club. There wouldn’t have been a scattergun and hopeless transfer policy and our players would still have been proud to pull on the famous Blackburn Rovers shirt. You have destroyed all that and now you are fire-fighting in the hope that you can turn things round. Sorry, too late. Venky’s have been repeatedly bombarded by a crescendo of warnings since the day they sacked Sam – simply because Agent Anderson wanted him out of the way. But they knew best. Yes, you have every right to be concerned. But all your problems are self-inflicted – and Venky’s were constantly warned about their catastrophic mismanagement. Nothing would stand in their way. John Williams was on his way out of the door when he very politely and constructively questioned Venky’s management policy. Further down the line of mistakes, failure and deterioration, deputy ceo Paul Hunt was unceremoniously sacked because Venky’s didn’t like the truth he told them. Amid it all, Steve Kean stood immune. And still those mistakes are being made. Why do you think Henning Berg can simply ‘go out’ and find a new coaching staff to solve all the problems? I, along with many others, warned you personally before the appointment of the new manager that you must appoint an experienced manager and back him with all the resources and support he required. It was your last chance. Again, good advice ignored. You knew best. You say you know in which direction you are headed. I seriously doubt it. The entire club will have to be overhauled if you are to have any hope of restoring it to what it was before two years of incomprehensible carnage. Get John Williams back as chairman and ceo and Tom Finn to return as managing director, whatever it takes, and let them get on with the job of revival. I don’t know if even they would be able to do it, but it would be our best chance. There is certainly no confidence or hope with the current incompetent senior management structure. Finally, folks, Colin Hendry, the biggest failure of all, WAS assisting Ian Bowyer with the reserves yesterday. So it looks like Kean’s man has inexplicably survived the cull.
well said rovers for 60 years
do you not fancy having a bash at running the circus.of clowns ?..
this whole escapade is sickening and a prime example of how not to run a club.
Indian investors from a third world country who employ and take advantage of slave labour in women and kids..
what chance have we got with these sewer rats . get the swines out - hate them with avengence
[quote][p][bold]roverfor60years[/bold] wrote: Well, Shebby, you are now reaping what your and your employers have sown. If Venky’s had not torn up their takeover promises and cynically ripped the heart out of the club after vowing to respect the legacy of Jack Walker and keep the management team in place, you would not be in this black hole. It’s a forlorn hope warning the players to improve their performances – or else. Sadly, they are not up to it and the damage and despair that Venky’s have inflicted on the club now runs so deep that it will take years, if ever, to put things right. If only Venky’s – that very name will haunt 25,000 Blackburn Rovers supporters forever – hadn’t bulldozed their way into Ewood flattening everything in their path and instead had carefully taken stock of the entire club and how it was run things would have been a lot different today. The club’s infrastructure would have been intact, John Williams and Tom Finn would have been efficiently running the club for them, they wouldn’t have been ill-advised and robbed by agents, we would have been financially sound and still in the Premiership - and, yes, very likely in the top ten with players who were heart and soul in the club. There wouldn’t have been a scattergun and hopeless transfer policy and our players would still have been proud to pull on the famous Blackburn Rovers shirt. You have destroyed all that and now you are fire-fighting in the hope that you can turn things round. Sorry, too late. Venky’s have been repeatedly bombarded by a crescendo of warnings since the day they sacked Sam – simply because Agent Anderson wanted him out of the way. But they knew best. Yes, you have every right to be concerned. But all your problems are self-inflicted – and Venky’s were constantly warned about their catastrophic mismanagement. Nothing would stand in their way. John Williams was on his way out of the door when he very politely and constructively questioned Venky’s management policy. Further down the line of mistakes, failure and deterioration, deputy ceo Paul Hunt was unceremoniously sacked because Venky’s didn’t like the truth he told them. Amid it all, Steve Kean stood immune. And still those mistakes are being made. Why do you think Henning Berg can simply ‘go out’ and find a new coaching staff to solve all the problems? I, along with many others, warned you personally before the appointment of the new manager that you must appoint an experienced manager and back him with all the resources and support he required. It was your last chance. Again, good advice ignored. You knew best. You say you know in which direction you are headed. I seriously doubt it. The entire club will have to be overhauled if you are to have any hope of restoring it to what it was before two years of incomprehensible carnage. Get John Williams back as chairman and ceo and Tom Finn to return as managing director, whatever it takes, and let them get on with the job of revival. I don’t know if even they would be able to do it, but it would be our best chance. There is certainly no confidence or hope with the current incompetent senior management structure. Finally, folks, Colin Hendry, the biggest failure of all, WAS assisting Ian Bowyer with the reserves yesterday. So it looks like Kean’s man has inexplicably survived the cull.[/p][/quote]well said rovers for 60 years do you not fancy having a bash at running the circus.of clowns ?.. this whole escapade is sickening and a prime example of how not to run a club. Indian investors from a third world country who employ and take advantage of slave labour in women and kids.. what chance have we got with these sewer rats . get the swines out - hate them with avengence Keen O to Get Kean Out

3:14pm Wed 12 Dec 12

Ray Gunn says...

claretandblue wrote:
Harwoodstblue wrote:
Lancs - pensioner wrote:
Lancs - pensioner wrote:
Crow27 wrote: Ibelieve a few of things need to happen; 1) Don't let these four get together again, p**s up, brewery etc. 2) Let Berg have his own staff no matter how much, the Venkys have made a profit from us. 3) Let Berg get rid of players he doesn't want. If he is the manager he should be allowed to do this! 4) Play Givet!
5) Get rid of a useless defence coach/pension robber/girlfriend beater
6) play two up front Anymore?
Yes Venkys....Make available the £5 million pounds each transfer window as you Promised.
You've just spent 8 million on a striker you muppet! What more do you want? Tell you what...why don't you try something radical....like getting behind your team. You've no divine right to be in the premier league. Get over it. You're back where you belong. For the time being!
why dont you put as much effort on you own dingle issues and keep your sister sniffing nose out of ours...no one had a divine right to be in the premier league but thats a position we held for years unlike you muppets....shut up and jog on
[quote][p][bold]claretandblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lancs - pensioner[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lancs - pensioner[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Crow27[/bold] wrote: Ibelieve a few of things need to happen; 1) Don't let these four get together again, p**s up, brewery etc. 2) Let Berg have his own staff no matter how much, the Venkys have made a profit from us. 3) Let Berg get rid of players he doesn't want. If he is the manager he should be allowed to do this! 4) Play Givet![/p][/quote]5) Get rid of a useless defence coach/pension robber/girlfriend beater[/p][/quote]6) play two up front Anymore?[/p][/quote]Yes Venkys....Make available the £5 million pounds each transfer window as you Promised.[/p][/quote]You've just spent 8 million on a striker you muppet! What more do you want? Tell you what...why don't you try something radical....like getting behind your team. You've no divine right to be in the premier league. Get over it. You're back where you belong. For the time being![/p][/quote]why dont you put as much effort on you own dingle issues and keep your sister sniffing nose out of ours...no one had a divine right to be in the premier league but thats a position we held for years unlike you muppets....shut up and jog on Ray Gunn

3:20pm Wed 12 Dec 12

noddymcleod says...

The people who also take advantage of slave and child labour in India are British high street retailers and unthinking British bargain hunters.
Shop ethically and sort out our own sewer rats in the retail industry who pay no taxes.
The people who also take advantage of slave and child labour in India are British high street retailers and unthinking British bargain hunters. Shop ethically and sort out our own sewer rats in the retail industry who pay no taxes. noddymcleod

3:22pm Wed 12 Dec 12

MxMave says...

Start by sacking the entire management team. Then hire a proper manager with credentials, then give him 25 million for coaches and players and give him a year and a half to get us promoted with milestones along the way.
Start by sacking the entire management team. Then hire a proper manager with credentials, then give him 25 million for coaches and players and give him a year and a half to get us promoted with milestones along the way. MxMave

3:23pm Wed 12 Dec 12

bigste says...

On this seasons form, all of it, we are staring at relegation. It will need a tremendous turn round to prevent it. Since Berg came we have gone from bad to worse, literally. Throwing points at the current rate we are bound to take the drop. Do the sums and tell me I'm wrong, you can't.
On this seasons form, all of it, we are staring at relegation. It will need a tremendous turn round to prevent it. Since Berg came we have gone from bad to worse, literally. Throwing points at the current rate we are bound to take the drop. Do the sums and tell me I'm wrong, you can't. bigste

3:25pm Wed 12 Dec 12

bburnrover says...

I do not blame Berg as he had no time to assimilate things with all the matches coming thick and fast,seems like Shebby is under pressure to sort it out and all the pressure cascades down to the front line and Bergs pressure carries on until it gets to the players and coaching staff,the players cannot help it as they dont have the correct skill levels to play decent football Shebby and Kean should not have wasted money on them.
I do not blame Berg as he had no time to assimilate things with all the matches coming thick and fast,seems like Shebby is under pressure to sort it out and all the pressure cascades down to the front line and Bergs pressure carries on until it gets to the players and coaching staff,the players cannot help it as they dont have the correct skill levels to play decent football Shebby and Kean should not have wasted money on them. bburnrover

3:28pm Wed 12 Dec 12

Bazzer says...

A Darener wrote:
Sorry matthewCA but your grasp of written English is getting worse not better. I think a visit to a tutor is called for. However much we love hearing from you your rambling are getting too difficult to decipher.
Makaveli's input down. Matthew CA input up. "All the best" is a bit of a giveaway. This is Borat style!
[quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: Sorry matthewCA but your grasp of written English is getting worse not better. I think a visit to a tutor is called for. However much we love hearing from you your rambling are getting too difficult to decipher.[/p][/quote]Makaveli's input down. Matthew CA input up. "All the best" is a bit of a giveaway. This is Borat style! Bazzer

3:29pm Wed 12 Dec 12

Harwoodstblue says...

MxMave wrote:
Start by sacking the entire management team. Then hire a proper manager with credentials, then give him 25 million for coaches and players and give him a year and a half to get us promoted with milestones along the way.
25 million...........Yo
u'll be giving Venkys heart attacks.
[quote][p][bold]MxMave[/bold] wrote: Start by sacking the entire management team. Then hire a proper manager with credentials, then give him 25 million for coaches and players and give him a year and a half to get us promoted with milestones along the way.[/p][/quote]25 million...........Yo u'll be giving Venkys heart attacks. Harwoodstblue

3:29pm Wed 12 Dec 12

cboyer says...

1riversider wrote:
Here's an idea Shebby - sack yourself, and take the other Stooges with you. You couldn't possibly make this story up - a bunch of incompetents (the Three Stooges) deciding on the future of another bunch of incompetents (the coaching staff), And why isn't Hendry included in all this? Why don't you all just F off!!

SHYSTERS GET OUT OF OUR CLUB
why would you want shebby out? i think he talks sense and has improved things since he came in! obviously id be happy if venkys went but while they are still here like an irritating nasty rash that you just cant get rid of then im afraid shebby is our only hope :(
[quote][p][bold]1riversider[/bold] wrote: Here's an idea Shebby - sack yourself, and take the other Stooges with you. You couldn't possibly make this story up - a bunch of incompetents (the Three Stooges) deciding on the future of another bunch of incompetents (the coaching staff), And why isn't Hendry included in all this? Why don't you all just F off!! SHYSTERS GET OUT OF OUR CLUB[/p][/quote]why would you want shebby out? i think he talks sense and has improved things since he came in! obviously id be happy if venkys went but while they are still here like an irritating nasty rash that you just cant get rid of then im afraid shebby is our only hope :( cboyer

3:30pm Wed 12 Dec 12

fanny_tickler. says...

What happens when Shebby has no one left to sack? Will he turn the gun on himself? Who will be your Global Advisor in League One?
What happens when Shebby has no one left to sack? Will he turn the gun on himself? Who will be your Global Advisor in League One? fanny_tickler.

3:49pm Wed 12 Dec 12

penrithrover says...

INDIANS ,
VERY NICE PEOPLE ,
BUT DOES ANYONE KNOW ANY INDIAN FOLK THAT HAS EVER PLAYED A HIGH LEVEL OF FOOTBALL ?

OR IN FACT DOES ANYONE KNOW ANY INDIANS THAT HAVE COACHED AT A HIGH LEVEL OF FOOTBALL .
WELL I DON`T BUT MAYBE THEY ARE ONE OR TWO.

INDIANS OR MALAYS OR IN FACT MALAY INDIANS HAVE NO PEDIGREE WHAT SO EVER IN FOOTBALL.

SHEBBY SINGH WAS THE TOKEN LOCAL T.V PUNDIT IN SINGAPORE ,HE SAT NEXT TO STEVE MCMAHON AND VARIOUS GUESTS LIKE BRYAN ROBSON, NO BRITISH PERSON OR IN FACT ANYONE THAT HAD ANY FOOTBALL NOUS EVER TOOK SHEBBY SINGHS COMMENTS SERIOUSLY ,HE WAS AND IS A JOKE FIGURE IN TV LAND IN THE FAR EAST , OBVIOUSLY THE DESAI FAMILY MUST HAVE SEEN HIM ON THE TV TALKING ABOUT FOOTBALL AND AS HE,LIKE THEM IS ALSO INDIAN,SO THE DESAIS FAMILY MUST HAVE PUT 2 AND 2 TOGETHER AND CAME UP WITH THE BIGGEST JOKE IN WORLD FOOTBALL , A CLOWN CALLED SHEBBY SINGH WITH A TITLE AS A "GLOBAL ADVISOR "
GOD PRESERVE US .
INDIAN OWNERS WITH A INDIAN GLOBAL ADVISOR RESPONSIBLE FOR RUNNING THE FOOTBALL CLUB , AS THE OLD BOY FROM 'DAD`S ARMY" USED TO SAY ' WE ARE DOOMED " .

APART FROM BERG, THERE ARE NO MEN OF HONOUR ,NO MEN OF DECENCY. NO MEN OF INTEGRITY , THE CLUB IS RUN AND MANAGED BY UNQUALIFIED MEN OF SOLACIOS GREED , I HOPE I AM WRONG BUT I FEAR THAT BERG COULD BE IN THE SAME GUZZLING, EVIL ,SINISTER BAND OF ROBBERS AS THE REST OF THEM.
.
LANCASHIRE IS THE BIRTH PLACE OF FOOTBALL , THE BIGGEST SPORT IN THE WORLD STARTED HERE IN LANCASHIRE ,THE HEARTLAND , ABOUT 150 YEARS AGO IT ALL STARTED RIGHT HERE IN ,LANCASHIRE ,THE BIRTHPLACE OF FOOTBALL,IN OUR TOWNS AND VALLEYS.

SO ACCEPTING THAT FOOTBALL IS AN ALIEN SPORT TO INDIANS AND MALAY INDIANS ,AN ALIEN SPORT TO PEOPLE FROM THE PUNJAB OR JAHOR BAHRU OR BANGLADESH ,THEN MY QUESTION IS WHY IS OUR TOWNS FOOTBALL CLUB ,A TOWN THAT HAS HAD A FOOTBALL CLUB BEFORE ELECTRICITY WAS INVENTED , BEFORE THEIR WAS EVEN RADIO, WHEN QUEEN VICTORIA WAS ON THE THRONE WHEN DISRAELI WAS PRIME MINISTER OF OUR COUNTRY ,WHY HAVE WE INDIANS FROM PUNE AND A SIKH FROM KUALA LUMPUR TOTALLY AND ABSOLUTELY MISMANAGING OUR BELOVED FOOTBALL CLUB ?
INDIANS , VERY NICE PEOPLE , BUT DOES ANYONE KNOW ANY INDIAN FOLK THAT HAS EVER PLAYED A HIGH LEVEL OF FOOTBALL ? OR IN FACT DOES ANYONE KNOW ANY INDIANS THAT HAVE COACHED AT A HIGH LEVEL OF FOOTBALL . WELL I DON`T BUT MAYBE THEY ARE ONE OR TWO. INDIANS OR MALAYS OR IN FACT MALAY INDIANS HAVE NO PEDIGREE WHAT SO EVER IN FOOTBALL. SHEBBY SINGH WAS THE TOKEN LOCAL T.V PUNDIT IN SINGAPORE ,HE SAT NEXT TO STEVE MCMAHON AND VARIOUS GUESTS LIKE BRYAN ROBSON, NO BRITISH PERSON OR IN FACT ANYONE THAT HAD ANY FOOTBALL NOUS EVER TOOK SHEBBY SINGHS COMMENTS SERIOUSLY ,HE WAS AND IS A JOKE FIGURE IN TV LAND IN THE FAR EAST , OBVIOUSLY THE DESAI FAMILY MUST HAVE SEEN HIM ON THE TV TALKING ABOUT FOOTBALL AND AS HE,LIKE THEM IS ALSO INDIAN,SO THE DESAIS FAMILY MUST HAVE PUT 2 AND 2 TOGETHER AND CAME UP WITH THE BIGGEST JOKE IN WORLD FOOTBALL , A CLOWN CALLED SHEBBY SINGH WITH A TITLE AS A "GLOBAL ADVISOR " GOD PRESERVE US . INDIAN OWNERS WITH A INDIAN GLOBAL ADVISOR RESPONSIBLE FOR RUNNING THE FOOTBALL CLUB , AS THE OLD BOY FROM 'DAD`S ARMY" USED TO SAY ' WE ARE DOOMED " . APART FROM BERG, THERE ARE NO MEN OF HONOUR ,NO MEN OF DECENCY. NO MEN OF INTEGRITY , THE CLUB IS RUN AND MANAGED BY UNQUALIFIED MEN OF SOLACIOS GREED , I HOPE I AM WRONG BUT I FEAR THAT BERG COULD BE IN THE SAME GUZZLING, EVIL ,SINISTER BAND OF ROBBERS AS THE REST OF THEM. . LANCASHIRE IS THE BIRTH PLACE OF FOOTBALL , THE BIGGEST SPORT IN THE WORLD STARTED HERE IN LANCASHIRE ,THE HEARTLAND , ABOUT 150 YEARS AGO IT ALL STARTED RIGHT HERE IN ,LANCASHIRE ,THE BIRTHPLACE OF FOOTBALL,IN OUR TOWNS AND VALLEYS. SO ACCEPTING THAT FOOTBALL IS AN ALIEN SPORT TO INDIANS AND MALAY INDIANS ,AN ALIEN SPORT TO PEOPLE FROM THE PUNJAB OR JAHOR BAHRU OR BANGLADESH ,THEN MY QUESTION IS WHY IS OUR TOWNS FOOTBALL CLUB ,A TOWN THAT HAS HAD A FOOTBALL CLUB BEFORE ELECTRICITY WAS INVENTED , BEFORE THEIR WAS EVEN RADIO, WHEN QUEEN VICTORIA WAS ON THE THRONE WHEN DISRAELI WAS PRIME MINISTER OF OUR COUNTRY ,WHY HAVE WE INDIANS FROM PUNE AND A SIKH FROM KUALA LUMPUR TOTALLY AND ABSOLUTELY MISMANAGING OUR BELOVED FOOTBALL CLUB ? penrithrover

3:51pm Wed 12 Dec 12

fanny_tickler. says...

I know an Indian fella, nice guy, makes a blinding curry too. Hasn't a clue when it comes to football though.
I know an Indian fella, nice guy, makes a blinding curry too. Hasn't a clue when it comes to football though. fanny_tickler.

4:07pm Wed 12 Dec 12

Harwoodstblue says...

penrithrover wrote:
INDIANS ,
VERY NICE PEOPLE ,
BUT DOES ANYONE KNOW ANY INDIAN FOLK THAT HAS EVER PLAYED A HIGH LEVEL OF FOOTBALL ?

OR IN FACT DOES ANYONE KNOW ANY INDIANS THAT HAVE COACHED AT A HIGH LEVEL OF FOOTBALL .
WELL I DON`T BUT MAYBE THEY ARE ONE OR TWO.

INDIANS OR MALAYS OR IN FACT MALAY INDIANS HAVE NO PEDIGREE WHAT SO EVER IN FOOTBALL.

SHEBBY SINGH WAS THE TOKEN LOCAL T.V PUNDIT IN SINGAPORE ,HE SAT NEXT TO STEVE MCMAHON AND VARIOUS GUESTS LIKE BRYAN ROBSON, NO BRITISH PERSON OR IN FACT ANYONE THAT HAD ANY FOOTBALL NOUS EVER TOOK SHEBBY SINGHS COMMENTS SERIOUSLY ,HE WAS AND IS A JOKE FIGURE IN TV LAND IN THE FAR EAST , OBVIOUSLY THE DESAI FAMILY MUST HAVE SEEN HIM ON THE TV TALKING ABOUT FOOTBALL AND AS HE,LIKE THEM IS ALSO INDIAN,SO THE DESAIS FAMILY MUST HAVE PUT 2 AND 2 TOGETHER AND CAME UP WITH THE BIGGEST JOKE IN WORLD FOOTBALL , A CLOWN CALLED SHEBBY SINGH WITH A TITLE AS A "GLOBAL ADVISOR "
GOD PRESERVE US .
INDIAN OWNERS WITH A INDIAN GLOBAL ADVISOR RESPONSIBLE FOR RUNNING THE FOOTBALL CLUB , AS THE OLD BOY FROM 'DAD`S ARMY" USED TO SAY ' WE ARE DOOMED " .

APART FROM BERG, THERE ARE NO MEN OF HONOUR ,NO MEN OF DECENCY. NO MEN OF INTEGRITY , THE CLUB IS RUN AND MANAGED BY UNQUALIFIED MEN OF SOLACIOS GREED , I HOPE I AM WRONG BUT I FEAR THAT BERG COULD BE IN THE SAME GUZZLING, EVIL ,SINISTER BAND OF ROBBERS AS THE REST OF THEM.
.
LANCASHIRE IS THE BIRTH PLACE OF FOOTBALL , THE BIGGEST SPORT IN THE WORLD STARTED HERE IN LANCASHIRE ,THE HEARTLAND , ABOUT 150 YEARS AGO IT ALL STARTED RIGHT HERE IN ,LANCASHIRE ,THE BIRTHPLACE OF FOOTBALL,IN OUR TOWNS AND VALLEYS.

SO ACCEPTING THAT FOOTBALL IS AN ALIEN SPORT TO INDIANS AND MALAY INDIANS ,AN ALIEN SPORT TO PEOPLE FROM THE PUNJAB OR JAHOR BAHRU OR BANGLADESH ,THEN MY QUESTION IS WHY IS OUR TOWNS FOOTBALL CLUB ,A TOWN THAT HAS HAD A FOOTBALL CLUB BEFORE ELECTRICITY WAS INVENTED , BEFORE THEIR WAS EVEN RADIO, WHEN QUEEN VICTORIA WAS ON THE THRONE WHEN DISRAELI WAS PRIME MINISTER OF OUR COUNTRY ,WHY HAVE WE INDIANS FROM PUNE AND A SIKH FROM KUALA LUMPUR TOTALLY AND ABSOLUTELY MISMANAGING OUR BELOVED FOOTBALL CLUB ?
Anyone with one iota of common sense would put people in charge of their business who knew what they were doing. They already had the best and sacked them. What other small town team could mix it with the big boys of the Premiership for years ?
I am still suspicious of Venkys motives and will continue to say so.
[quote][p][bold]penrithrover[/bold] wrote: INDIANS , VERY NICE PEOPLE , BUT DOES ANYONE KNOW ANY INDIAN FOLK THAT HAS EVER PLAYED A HIGH LEVEL OF FOOTBALL ? OR IN FACT DOES ANYONE KNOW ANY INDIANS THAT HAVE COACHED AT A HIGH LEVEL OF FOOTBALL . WELL I DON`T BUT MAYBE THEY ARE ONE OR TWO. INDIANS OR MALAYS OR IN FACT MALAY INDIANS HAVE NO PEDIGREE WHAT SO EVER IN FOOTBALL. SHEBBY SINGH WAS THE TOKEN LOCAL T.V PUNDIT IN SINGAPORE ,HE SAT NEXT TO STEVE MCMAHON AND VARIOUS GUESTS LIKE BRYAN ROBSON, NO BRITISH PERSON OR IN FACT ANYONE THAT HAD ANY FOOTBALL NOUS EVER TOOK SHEBBY SINGHS COMMENTS SERIOUSLY ,HE WAS AND IS A JOKE FIGURE IN TV LAND IN THE FAR EAST , OBVIOUSLY THE DESAI FAMILY MUST HAVE SEEN HIM ON THE TV TALKING ABOUT FOOTBALL AND AS HE,LIKE THEM IS ALSO INDIAN,SO THE DESAIS FAMILY MUST HAVE PUT 2 AND 2 TOGETHER AND CAME UP WITH THE BIGGEST JOKE IN WORLD FOOTBALL , A CLOWN CALLED SHEBBY SINGH WITH A TITLE AS A "GLOBAL ADVISOR " GOD PRESERVE US . INDIAN OWNERS WITH A INDIAN GLOBAL ADVISOR RESPONSIBLE FOR RUNNING THE FOOTBALL CLUB , AS THE OLD BOY FROM 'DAD`S ARMY" USED TO SAY ' WE ARE DOOMED " . APART FROM BERG, THERE ARE NO MEN OF HONOUR ,NO MEN OF DECENCY. NO MEN OF INTEGRITY , THE CLUB IS RUN AND MANAGED BY UNQUALIFIED MEN OF SOLACIOS GREED , I HOPE I AM WRONG BUT I FEAR THAT BERG COULD BE IN THE SAME GUZZLING, EVIL ,SINISTER BAND OF ROBBERS AS THE REST OF THEM. . LANCASHIRE IS THE BIRTH PLACE OF FOOTBALL , THE BIGGEST SPORT IN THE WORLD STARTED HERE IN LANCASHIRE ,THE HEARTLAND , ABOUT 150 YEARS AGO IT ALL STARTED RIGHT HERE IN ,LANCASHIRE ,THE BIRTHPLACE OF FOOTBALL,IN OUR TOWNS AND VALLEYS. SO ACCEPTING THAT FOOTBALL IS AN ALIEN SPORT TO INDIANS AND MALAY INDIANS ,AN ALIEN SPORT TO PEOPLE FROM THE PUNJAB OR JAHOR BAHRU OR BANGLADESH ,THEN MY QUESTION IS WHY IS OUR TOWNS FOOTBALL CLUB ,A TOWN THAT HAS HAD A FOOTBALL CLUB BEFORE ELECTRICITY WAS INVENTED , BEFORE THEIR WAS EVEN RADIO, WHEN QUEEN VICTORIA WAS ON THE THRONE WHEN DISRAELI WAS PRIME MINISTER OF OUR COUNTRY ,WHY HAVE WE INDIANS FROM PUNE AND A SIKH FROM KUALA LUMPUR TOTALLY AND ABSOLUTELY MISMANAGING OUR BELOVED FOOTBALL CLUB ?[/p][/quote]Anyone with one iota of common sense would put people in charge of their business who knew what they were doing. They already had the best and sacked them. What other small town team could mix it with the big boys of the Premiership for years ? I am still suspicious of Venkys motives and will continue to say so. Harwoodstblue

4:23pm Wed 12 Dec 12

Brfc24138931 says...

So shebby what role did you have in this shambles then. ??? Pot calling the pot black comes to mind. From top to bottom you are all useless. Just get out and let the supporters tske charge, as we ain't going anywhere but down with you and the rest of your cronies
So shebby what role did you have in this shambles then. ??? Pot calling the pot black comes to mind. From top to bottom you are all useless. Just get out and let the supporters tske charge, as we ain't going anywhere but down with you and the rest of your cronies Brfc24138931

4:26pm Wed 12 Dec 12

penrithrover says...

fanny_tickler. wrote:
I know an Indian fella, nice guy, makes a blinding curry too. Hasn't a clue when it comes to football though.
Fanny_tickler very good, we can only laugh , you comments always good value.

I think after cricket the next biggest sport in India is called KABBADI so CAN YOU IMAGINE how it would go if a chap from Blackburn bought a Kabbadi club, in Pune ,India and after purchasing them (taking their debts over ) then he hired a guy like David Dunn or Simon Grayson and then gave him the title THE GLOBAL ADVISOR for whole of the world for our Kabbadi club !!!
A sport in INDIA THAT WE KNOW BUGGER ALL ABOUT ,and we have one of our local lads that knows zilch about Kabbadi well basically that`s what the Desai family have done to us at Rovers,as I said previously , " in the land of the blind the one eyed man is KING."
[quote][p][bold]fanny_tickler.[/bold] wrote: I know an Indian fella, nice guy, makes a blinding curry too. Hasn't a clue when it comes to football though.[/p][/quote]Fanny_tickler very good, we can only laugh , you comments always good value. I think after cricket the next biggest sport in India is called KABBADI so CAN YOU IMAGINE how it would go if a chap from Blackburn bought a Kabbadi club, in Pune ,India and after purchasing them (taking their debts over ) then he hired a guy like David Dunn or Simon Grayson and then gave him the title THE GLOBAL ADVISOR for whole of the world for our Kabbadi club !!! A sport in INDIA THAT WE KNOW BUGGER ALL ABOUT ,and we have one of our local lads that knows zilch about Kabbadi well basically that`s what the Desai family have done to us at Rovers,as I said previously , " in the land of the blind the one eyed man is KING." penrithrover

4:53pm Wed 12 Dec 12

A Darener says...

penrithrover wrote:
fanny_tickler. wrote:
I know an Indian fella, nice guy, makes a blinding curry too. Hasn't a clue when it comes to football though.
Fanny_tickler very good, we can only laugh , you comments always good value.

I think after cricket the next biggest sport in India is called KABBADI so CAN YOU IMAGINE how it would go if a chap from Blackburn bought a Kabbadi club, in Pune ,India and after purchasing them (taking their debts over ) then he hired a guy like David Dunn or Simon Grayson and then gave him the title THE GLOBAL ADVISOR for whole of the world for our Kabbadi club !!!
A sport in INDIA THAT WE KNOW BUGGER ALL ABOUT ,and we have one of our local lads that knows zilch about Kabbadi well basically that`s what the Desai family have done to us at Rovers,as I said previously , " in the land of the blind the one eyed man is KING."
The difference would be that Dunny or Grayson would have the sense to leave well enough alone and let the experts at the Kabbadi club get on with running it.
[quote][p][bold]penrithrover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fanny_tickler.[/bold] wrote: I know an Indian fella, nice guy, makes a blinding curry too. Hasn't a clue when it comes to football though.[/p][/quote]Fanny_tickler very good, we can only laugh , you comments always good value. I think after cricket the next biggest sport in India is called KABBADI so CAN YOU IMAGINE how it would go if a chap from Blackburn bought a Kabbadi club, in Pune ,India and after purchasing them (taking their debts over ) then he hired a guy like David Dunn or Simon Grayson and then gave him the title THE GLOBAL ADVISOR for whole of the world for our Kabbadi club !!! A sport in INDIA THAT WE KNOW BUGGER ALL ABOUT ,and we have one of our local lads that knows zilch about Kabbadi well basically that`s what the Desai family have done to us at Rovers,as I said previously , " in the land of the blind the one eyed man is KING."[/p][/quote]The difference would be that Dunny or Grayson would have the sense to leave well enough alone and let the experts at the Kabbadi club get on with running it. A Darener

5:06pm Wed 12 Dec 12

Harwoodstblue says...

A Darener wrote:
penrithrover wrote:
fanny_tickler. wrote:
I know an Indian fella, nice guy, makes a blinding curry too. Hasn't a clue when it comes to football though.
Fanny_tickler very good, we can only laugh , you comments always good value.

I think after cricket the next biggest sport in India is called KABBADI so CAN YOU IMAGINE how it would go if a chap from Blackburn bought a Kabbadi club, in Pune ,India and after purchasing them (taking their debts over ) then he hired a guy like David Dunn or Simon Grayson and then gave him the title THE GLOBAL ADVISOR for whole of the world for our Kabbadi club !!!
A sport in INDIA THAT WE KNOW BUGGER ALL ABOUT ,and we have one of our local lads that knows zilch about Kabbadi well basically that`s what the Desai family have done to us at Rovers,as I said previously , " in the land of the blind the one eyed man is KING."
The difference would be that Dunny or Grayson would have the sense to leave well enough alone and let the experts at the Kabbadi club get on with running it.
Exactly my point above. Perhaps because Venkys have more money than we do, they think they know best....Not so..... I know as much about Kabbadi as they do about football.
[quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]penrithrover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fanny_tickler.[/bold] wrote: I know an Indian fella, nice guy, makes a blinding curry too. Hasn't a clue when it comes to football though.[/p][/quote]Fanny_tickler very good, we can only laugh , you comments always good value. I think after cricket the next biggest sport in India is called KABBADI so CAN YOU IMAGINE how it would go if a chap from Blackburn bought a Kabbadi club, in Pune ,India and after purchasing them (taking their debts over ) then he hired a guy like David Dunn or Simon Grayson and then gave him the title THE GLOBAL ADVISOR for whole of the world for our Kabbadi club !!! A sport in INDIA THAT WE KNOW BUGGER ALL ABOUT ,and we have one of our local lads that knows zilch about Kabbadi well basically that`s what the Desai family have done to us at Rovers,as I said previously , " in the land of the blind the one eyed man is KING."[/p][/quote]The difference would be that Dunny or Grayson would have the sense to leave well enough alone and let the experts at the Kabbadi club get on with running it.[/p][/quote]Exactly my point above. Perhaps because Venkys have more money than we do, they think they know best....Not so..... I know as much about Kabbadi as they do about football. Harwoodstblue

5:37pm Wed 12 Dec 12

French Rover says...

Keen O to Get Kean Out wrote:
penrithrover wrote:
In Shakespeares Hamlet he said 'There is something Rotten in the state of Denmark " . Well there might be ! But not anywhere near as rotten as the state of Blackburn Rovers . Robert Coar is still a Blackburn Rovers board member , he failed in his efforts 20 years ago when he unsuccessfully tried to get on the board at Burnley , he and always has been a dingle. Coar befriended Howard Walker ,because he likes rich people , but the question is ,why is he Howard Walker so desperate to get his 150,000 pounds back that Hendry owed him when Hendry went bankrupt ? Surely H. Walker is rich enough to take the 150k on the chin and get the scoundrel out of Rovers. Why do we have to keep the now hated Hendry at Rovers ? Quite honestly the man should be locked up in jail for a long time for swindling , stealing and bashing up women. Coar/Hendry/Singh/ clearly are running the pantomine now. Are these clowns serious about releasing Eric Black Ian Brunskill, Bobby Minns , all honourable men and keeping Hendry , there is something stinking going on. There is a definite some agenda going on , all the good men have left or are going and we are left with criminals. Is Singh a sickly wee wimpy parrot who has not any honesty or integrity nor has an original thought between his ears ?
Singh has been sent by Mrs Desai to take every possible penny out of the club and then switch the lights out..Venkys agenda was to make cash, they saw a potential to assett strip and its very clear what they are doing. Eric Black, Brunnskill and Mimms are all on good wages ,, so its Venkys policy that they have to go if we dont get promotion. simple
as much as I like Bobby Mimms and surely in general the people named cannot have too much claim to stay any longer.

Remember that this coaching staff has been involved day to day with the preparation of a team that over the last two seasons has had the worst run of results ever seen at the Rovers for decades.

It has nothing to do with cost cutting and everything to do with sorting the club out and getting some decent staff in who can work together to put a decent team out on the pitch again.

Every one of these people that are mentioned must be culpable in some way in the demise of the club and the lower playing standards and lack of general match fitness that we have all witnessed over the last two seasons. Tough yes but it needs to be. This can be an important first step in improving things in general at Ewood. We all have to work hard to earn our salaries and we are judged on our performance no matter what job we are in. Football is a high profile results based profession and looking back at our results (or lack of) then these guys can have little complaint.
[quote][p][bold]Keen O to Get Kean Out[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]penrithrover[/bold] wrote: In Shakespeares Hamlet he said 'There is something Rotten in the state of Denmark " . Well there might be ! But not anywhere near as rotten as the state of Blackburn Rovers . Robert Coar is still a Blackburn Rovers board member , he failed in his efforts 20 years ago when he unsuccessfully tried to get on the board at Burnley , he and always has been a dingle. Coar befriended Howard Walker ,because he likes rich people , but the question is ,why is he Howard Walker so desperate to get his 150,000 pounds back that Hendry owed him when Hendry went bankrupt ? Surely H. Walker is rich enough to take the 150k on the chin and get the scoundrel out of Rovers. Why do we have to keep the now hated Hendry at Rovers ? Quite honestly the man should be locked up in jail for a long time for swindling , stealing and bashing up women. Coar/Hendry/Singh/ clearly are running the pantomine now. Are these clowns serious about releasing Eric Black Ian Brunskill, Bobby Minns , all honourable men and keeping Hendry , there is something stinking going on. There is a definite some agenda going on , all the good men have left or are going and we are left with criminals. Is Singh a sickly wee wimpy parrot who has not any honesty or integrity nor has an original thought between his ears ?[/p][/quote]Singh has been sent by Mrs Desai to take every possible penny out of the club and then switch the lights out..Venkys agenda was to make cash, they saw a potential to assett strip and its very clear what they are doing. Eric Black, Brunnskill and Mimms are all on good wages ,, so its Venkys policy that they have to go if we dont get promotion. simple[/p][/quote]as much as I like Bobby Mimms and surely in general the people named cannot have too much claim to stay any longer. Remember that this coaching staff has been involved day to day with the preparation of a team that over the last two seasons has had the worst run of results ever seen at the Rovers for decades. It has nothing to do with cost cutting and everything to do with sorting the club out and getting some decent staff in who can work together to put a decent team out on the pitch again. Every one of these people that are mentioned must be culpable in some way in the demise of the club and the lower playing standards and lack of general match fitness that we have all witnessed over the last two seasons. Tough yes but it needs to be. This can be an important first step in improving things in general at Ewood. We all have to work hard to earn our salaries and we are judged on our performance no matter what job we are in. Football is a high profile results based profession and looking back at our results (or lack of) then these guys can have little complaint. French Rover

5:44pm Wed 12 Dec 12

unclejacklegend says...

Harwoodstblue wrote:
claretandblue wrote:
Harwoodstblue wrote:
Lancs - pensioner wrote:
Lancs - pensioner wrote:
Crow27 wrote:
Ibelieve a few of things need to happen;
1) Don't let these four get together again, p**s up, brewery etc.
2) Let Berg have his own staff no matter how much, the Venkys have made a profit from us.
3) Let Berg get rid of players he doesn't want. If he is the manager he should be allowed to do this!
4) Play Givet!
5) Get rid of a useless defence coach/pension robber/girlfriend beater
6) play two up front

Anymore?
Yes Venkys....Make available the £5 million pounds each transfer window as you Promised.
You've just spent 8 million on a striker you muppet! What more do you want? Tell you what...why don't you try something radical....like getting behind your team. You've no divine right to be in the premier league. Get over it. You're back where you belong. For the time being!
You haven't got a clue what you are talking about and I have no intention of explaining it to you, .F*** Off back to the village.
That's where your wrong, we do have a divine right to be in the prem. deal with it six fingers!
[quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]claretandblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lancs - pensioner[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lancs - pensioner[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Crow27[/bold] wrote: Ibelieve a few of things need to happen; 1) Don't let these four get together again, p**s up, brewery etc. 2) Let Berg have his own staff no matter how much, the Venkys have made a profit from us. 3) Let Berg get rid of players he doesn't want. If he is the manager he should be allowed to do this! 4) Play Givet![/p][/quote]5) Get rid of a useless defence coach/pension robber/girlfriend beater[/p][/quote]6) play two up front Anymore?[/p][/quote]Yes Venkys....Make available the £5 million pounds each transfer window as you Promised.[/p][/quote]You've just spent 8 million on a striker you muppet! What more do you want? Tell you what...why don't you try something radical....like getting behind your team. You've no divine right to be in the premier league. Get over it. You're back where you belong. For the time being![/p][/quote]You haven't got a clue what you are talking about and I have no intention of explaining it to you, .F*** Off back to the village.[/p][/quote]That's where your wrong, we do have a divine right to be in the prem. deal with it six fingers! unclejacklegend

5:45pm Wed 12 Dec 12

1riversider says...

cboyer wrote:
1riversider wrote:
Here's an idea Shebby - sack yourself, and take the other Stooges with you. You couldn't possibly make this story up - a bunch of incompetents (the Three Stooges) deciding on the future of another bunch of incompetents (the coaching staff), And why isn't Hendry included in all this? Why don't you all just F off!!

SHYSTERS GET OUT OF OUR CLUB
why would you want shebby out? i think he talks sense and has improved things since he came in! obviously id be happy if venkys went but while they are still here like an irritating nasty rash that you just cant get rid of then im afraid shebby is our only hope :(
Sorry mate, but if you think Shebby talks sense and has improved things then you know less about football than Venky's do! The man is a complete moron, who can't put his brain in gear before opening his mouth, and when he does talk, spouts absolute garbage. Just look at what has happened since his arrival.

SHYSTERS GET OUT OF OUR CLUB
[quote][p][bold]cboyer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]1riversider[/bold] wrote: Here's an idea Shebby - sack yourself, and take the other Stooges with you. You couldn't possibly make this story up - a bunch of incompetents (the Three Stooges) deciding on the future of another bunch of incompetents (the coaching staff), And why isn't Hendry included in all this? Why don't you all just F off!! SHYSTERS GET OUT OF OUR CLUB[/p][/quote]why would you want shebby out? i think he talks sense and has improved things since he came in! obviously id be happy if venkys went but while they are still here like an irritating nasty rash that you just cant get rid of then im afraid shebby is our only hope :([/p][/quote]Sorry mate, but if you think Shebby talks sense and has improved things then you know less about football than Venky's do! The man is a complete moron, who can't put his brain in gear before opening his mouth, and when he does talk, spouts absolute garbage. Just look at what has happened since his arrival. SHYSTERS GET OUT OF OUR CLUB 1riversider

5:53pm Wed 12 Dec 12

Fan@clared says...

Mahatma Gandhi went to Darwen and that was the beginning of the end of the cotton industry in Lancashire. Venky's came to Blackburn. and .....,
Mahatma Gandhi went to Darwen and that was the beginning of the end of the cotton industry in Lancashire. Venky's came to Blackburn. and ....., Fan@clared

6:10pm Wed 12 Dec 12

stick to football says...

The Buck stops at the top Shebby and you are an intregal part of tjis seasons disaster

At least have the integrity to admit your mistakes and the sword is waiting to be fallen on NOW.
The Buck stops at the top Shebby and you are an intregal part of tjis seasons disaster At least have the integrity to admit your mistakes and the sword is waiting to be fallen on NOW. stick to football

6:14pm Wed 12 Dec 12

roverfor60years says...

Anyone have Shebby's latest e-mail address?
Anyone have Shebby's latest e-mail address? roverfor60years

6:22pm Wed 12 Dec 12

dangerous dave says...

Just listening to Shabby Singh on Radio Lancs what a blabbering idiot!!!!
OUT WITH SHAW AGNEW SINGH BLACK HENDRY AND POSSIBLY BERG
Just listening to Shabby Singh on Radio Lancs what a blabbering idiot!!!! OUT WITH SHAW AGNEW SINGH BLACK HENDRY AND POSSIBLY BERG dangerous dave

6:40pm Wed 12 Dec 12

real betis hotpot says...

Does 'decisive action' involve Shabby Thing and the Chicken Murderers f*cking off back to where they came from? Because if not no amount of action will make things better, with these morons in charge their is no hope.
Does 'decisive action' involve Shabby Thing and the Chicken Murderers f*cking off back to where they came from? Because if not no amount of action will make things better, with these morons in charge their is no hope. real betis hotpot

6:51pm Wed 12 Dec 12

Dan11 says...

real betis hotpot wrote:
Does 'decisive action' involve Shabby Thing and the Chicken Murderers f*cking off back to where they came from? Because if not no amount of action will make things better, with these morons in charge their is no hope.
You could not make it up I agree- It is the blind leading the blind. You have the ex English football league division 4 left back in the changing rooms, whose claim to fame is appearing on ESPN India, advising a bunch of chicken killers on how to run a football club. What has India's contribution to football been? Other than screwing up Wolves and now Blackburn i cannot think of much. They should stick to cricket and corruption- what they are good at!

I wish the chicken killers would sell up and admit it has been a huge mistake before they do anymore damage!
[quote][p][bold]real betis hotpot[/bold] wrote: Does 'decisive action' involve Shabby Thing and the Chicken Murderers f*cking off back to where they came from? Because if not no amount of action will make things better, with these morons in charge their is no hope.[/p][/quote]You could not make it up I agree- It is the blind leading the blind. You have the ex English football league division 4 left back in the changing rooms, whose claim to fame is appearing on ESPN India, advising a bunch of chicken killers on how to run a football club. What has India's contribution to football been? Other than screwing up Wolves and now Blackburn i cannot think of much. They should stick to cricket and corruption- what they are good at! I wish the chicken killers would sell up and admit it has been a huge mistake before they do anymore damage! Dan11

6:59pm Wed 12 Dec 12

George White Bread says...

You just couldn't make this up! The circus continues to amuse everybody down at Trampwood. Next, Shebby will be firing himself out of a cannon.

Billy smarts FC.
You just couldn't make this up! The circus continues to amuse everybody down at Trampwood. Next, Shebby will be firing himself out of a cannon. Billy smarts FC. George White Bread

7:08pm Wed 12 Dec 12

dangerous dave says...

If the football world is listening to Shabby Singh on Radio Lancs then they will realise what a circus of clowns we have running the club!!!
OUT WITH SHAW AGNEW SINGH BLACK HENDRY VENKYS AND POSSIBLY BERG
If the football world is listening to Shabby Singh on Radio Lancs then they will realise what a circus of clowns we have running the club!!! OUT WITH SHAW AGNEW SINGH BLACK HENDRY VENKYS AND POSSIBLY BERG dangerous dave

7:13pm Wed 12 Dec 12

juanbbien says...

Just listening to shaggy on the Radio for the past hour to be honest the questions haven't been that great but shaggy is just waffling on ducking and diving and not really answering anything
Just listening to shaggy on the Radio for the past hour to be honest the questions haven't been that great but shaggy is just waffling on ducking and diving and not really answering anything juanbbien

7:39pm Wed 12 Dec 12

noddymcleod says...

So, he's in Blackburn today, is he ? or was in a phone call from Malaysia ? Does anyone know if he actually lives around here ? or does he just fly in occasionally, issue silly statments and fly out ?
Anyone out there reading "Agents, Rovers and Cricket Loving Owners" by Michael Blackburn, on sale in the market. Who is he ? Pen name for whom ?
So, he's in Blackburn today, is he ? or was in a phone call from Malaysia ? Does anyone know if he actually lives around here ? or does he just fly in occasionally, issue silly statments and fly out ? Anyone out there reading "Agents, Rovers and Cricket Loving Owners" by Michael Blackburn, on sale in the market. Who is he ? Pen name for whom ? noddymcleod

7:50pm Wed 12 Dec 12

Harwoodstblue says...

juanbbien wrote:
Just listening to shaggy on the Radio for the past hour to be honest the questions haven't been that great but shaggy is just waffling on ducking and diving and not really answering anything
So it was a farce then. What was the point if no one can take him seriously ?
[quote][p][bold]juanbbien[/bold] wrote: Just listening to shaggy on the Radio for the past hour to be honest the questions haven't been that great but shaggy is just waffling on ducking and diving and not really answering anything[/p][/quote]So it was a farce then. What was the point if no one can take him seriously ? Harwoodstblue

8:01pm Wed 12 Dec 12

dangerous dave says...

Harwoodstblue - really dont know- really poor questions - not one pertinent question about the financial situation of the club that mentioned KPMG not signing off the accounts which would have put him on the spot - he really is third rate in respect of a front man for the club - totalling embarrassing in my view for a once great Football Club.
OUT WITH SHAW AGNEW BLACK HENDRY SINGH VENKYS AND POSSIBLY BERG
Harwoodstblue - really dont know- really poor questions - not one pertinent question about the financial situation of the club that mentioned KPMG not signing off the accounts which would have put him on the spot - he really is third rate in respect of a front man for the club - totalling embarrassing in my view for a once great Football Club. OUT WITH SHAW AGNEW BLACK HENDRY SINGH VENKYS AND POSSIBLY BERG dangerous dave

8:05pm Wed 12 Dec 12

bobinspain says...

Riverside 7 wrote:
bobinspain wrote:
Riverside 7 wrote:
I believe the finger should also be pointing at the members of the Board who where responsible for Berg's appointment - namely Shebby, Shaw and Agnew.

This bunch of idiots took 5 weeks to identify Berg as the man to lead Rovers back to the Premier League this season.

Lets be honest, if most Rovers fans had been asked to name 10 people to succeed Kean I am certain that Berg's name would not have appeared in the 10.

I would dearly like to know how they arrived at their choice ahead of;-
1) international and former international team managers such as Trapattoni & Schuster,
2) experienced Premier League Managers such as Holloway & McCarthy,
3) successful overseas maagers such as Solskjaer,

I along with most Rovers fans were repared to give Berg our full support but I am afraid that after 8 games in charge Berg has done nothing to change my opinion that he was the wrong choice for Blackburn Rovers.

Just 5 points from a possible 24 is relegation form and we look nothing like a side that will challenge for promoton this year.

I will admit that he inherited an unbalanced and unfit squad of players
but he has done the impossible and got less out of the current squad than ether Kean or Black.
His team selections, formations use of substitutes have been very poor and warning bells ought to be sounding loud and clear.

If we lose on Saturday we ought to cut our losses now before giving him any money to spend in January and bring in Mark Hughes as soon as as posssible.

After all Hughes ticks the only box that appears to count to this Board - he was an ex-player.
I largely agree with your reasoned post with one exception:---- The selection process arriving at Berg was driven by two primary factors:
1. £££ (as Burnley found out to their cost with the appointment of Laws. The cheapest is never the best).
2. The position is now something of a 'poisoned chalice.'
The likes of Solskjaer wouldn't touch it with a bargepole and nor would any self-respecting 'established' figure.
My guess is you'll have to rely on the appointment of a 'young thruster' with promise, who's currently below the radar, or a has-been/never-will-


be of McCarthy's/Hughes' stature.

Bottom line is that 'you get what you pay for.' Singh's short arms and long pockets will be the final arbiter.
As everyone knows Berg was the 'Cheap Option' but I doubt whether the Board will ever admit to that.

With regard to Blackburn Rovers being a 'poisoned chalice', I am sure that the chance of managing any club in the Championship which is in receipt of parachute payments worth millions of pounds would always appeal to the likes of Mccarthy etc.

Is that not the reason why Dougie Freedman moved from Palace to Bolton?
"The chance of managing any club in the Championship-----" you say, I'd say, "any club but a basketcase", which BRFC surely is in its current state.
No sensible, quality manager would take on the current state of affairs prevalent at the club. He'd be hamstrung by his 'bosses' and thus impotent to affect the future of the club. It's worse than a poisoned chalice.
If I'm proved wrong, then I'd be the first to wish you luck, but I just can't see it.
Bolton isn't ruled by/owned by non-football people and hasn't appointed an individual of the 'quality' of Sahib Singh !!
[quote][p][bold]Riverside 7[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bobinspain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Riverside 7[/bold] wrote: I believe the finger should also be pointing at the members of the Board who where responsible for Berg's appointment - namely Shebby, Shaw and Agnew. This bunch of idiots took 5 weeks to identify Berg as the man to lead Rovers back to the Premier League this season. Lets be honest, if most Rovers fans had been asked to name 10 people to succeed Kean I am certain that Berg's name would not have appeared in the 10. I would dearly like to know how they arrived at their choice ahead of;- 1) international and former international team managers such as Trapattoni & Schuster, 2) experienced Premier League Managers such as Holloway & McCarthy, 3) successful overseas maagers such as Solskjaer, I along with most Rovers fans were repared to give Berg our full support but I am afraid that after 8 games in charge Berg has done nothing to change my opinion that he was the wrong choice for Blackburn Rovers. Just 5 points from a possible 24 is relegation form and we look nothing like a side that will challenge for promoton this year. I will admit that he inherited an unbalanced and unfit squad of players but he has done the impossible and got less out of the current squad than ether Kean or Black. His team selections, formations use of substitutes have been very poor and warning bells ought to be sounding loud and clear. If we lose on Saturday we ought to cut our losses now before giving him any money to spend in January and bring in Mark Hughes as soon as as posssible. After all Hughes ticks the only box that appears to count to this Board - he was an ex-player.[/p][/quote]I largely agree with your reasoned post with one exception:---- The selection process arriving at Berg was driven by two primary factors: 1. £££ (as Burnley found out to their cost with the appointment of Laws. The cheapest is never the best). 2. The position is now something of a 'poisoned chalice.' The likes of Solskjaer wouldn't touch it with a bargepole and nor would any self-respecting 'established' figure. My guess is you'll have to rely on the appointment of a 'young thruster' with promise, who's currently below the radar, or a has-been/never-will- be of McCarthy's/Hughes' stature. Bottom line is that 'you get what you pay for.' Singh's short arms and long pockets will be the final arbiter.[/p][/quote]As everyone knows Berg was the 'Cheap Option' but I doubt whether the Board will ever admit to that. With regard to Blackburn Rovers being a 'poisoned chalice', I am sure that the chance of managing any club in the Championship which is in receipt of parachute payments worth millions of pounds would always appeal to the likes of Mccarthy etc. Is that not the reason why Dougie Freedman moved from Palace to Bolton?[/p][/quote]"The chance of managing any club in the Championship-----" you say, I'd say, "any club but a basketcase", which BRFC surely is in its current state. No sensible, quality manager would take on the current state of affairs prevalent at the club. He'd be hamstrung by his 'bosses' and thus impotent to affect the future of the club. It's worse than a poisoned chalice. If I'm proved wrong, then I'd be the first to wish you luck, but I just can't see it. Bolton isn't ruled by/owned by non-football people and hasn't appointed an individual of the 'quality' of Sahib Singh !! bobinspain

8:13pm Wed 12 Dec 12

Harwoodstblue says...

dangerous dave wrote:
Harwoodstblue - really dont know- really poor questions - not one pertinent question about the financial situation of the club that mentioned KPMG not signing off the accounts which would have put him on the spot - he really is third rate in respect of a front man for the club - totalling embarrassing in my view for a once great Football Club.
OUT WITH SHAW AGNEW BLACK HENDRY SINGH VENKYS AND POSSIBLY BERG
Couldn't listen to it tonight but heard from someone who did, he dodged most of the questions. Is he sincere ? Can he be trusted ?
[quote][p][bold]dangerous dave[/bold] wrote: Harwoodstblue - really dont know- really poor questions - not one pertinent question about the financial situation of the club that mentioned KPMG not signing off the accounts which would have put him on the spot - he really is third rate in respect of a front man for the club - totalling embarrassing in my view for a once great Football Club. OUT WITH SHAW AGNEW BLACK HENDRY SINGH VENKYS AND POSSIBLY BERG[/p][/quote]Couldn't listen to it tonight but heard from someone who did, he dodged most of the questions. Is he sincere ? Can he be trusted ? Harwoodstblue

8:17pm Wed 12 Dec 12

juanbbien says...

Harwoodstblue wrote:
juanbbien wrote:
Just listening to shaggy on the Radio for the past hour to be honest the questions haven't been that great but shaggy is just waffling on ducking and diving and not really answering anything
So it was a farce then. What was the point if no one can take him seriously ?
The above article Singn promises Decisive Action he Contradicted saying the backroom would be there on Saturday no mention of them being fired present players were okay they just need coaching and fine tuning,a display like the one against Cardiff will not be tolerated,what they are going to do if there is I don't know,maybe give the supporters their money back wouldn't be a bad idea.i feel like I have wasted one hour and half of my life listening to that farce
[quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]juanbbien[/bold] wrote: Just listening to shaggy on the Radio for the past hour to be honest the questions haven't been that great but shaggy is just waffling on ducking and diving and not really answering anything[/p][/quote]So it was a farce then. What was the point if no one can take him seriously ?[/p][/quote]The above article Singn promises Decisive Action he Contradicted saying the backroom would be there on Saturday no mention of them being fired present players were okay they just need coaching and fine tuning,a display like the one against Cardiff will not be tolerated,what they are going to do if there is I don't know,maybe give the supporters their money back wouldn't be a bad idea.i feel like I have wasted one hour and half of my life listening to that farce juanbbien

8:37pm Wed 12 Dec 12

The Curator says...

Shebby Sing is running BRFC at the moment ,of that there is no doubt . He is a crackpot and the club will go nowhere whilst he is involved, meddling and interfering .
Good luck Henning ,but i can not help feeling that you should have put the loone in his place from the outset .

Come on grow a pair .
Shebby Sing is running BRFC at the moment ,of that there is no doubt . He is a crackpot and the club will go nowhere whilst he is involved, meddling and interfering . Good luck Henning ,but i can not help feeling that you should have put the loone in his place from the outset . Come on grow a pair . The Curator

8:46pm Wed 12 Dec 12

Nurseman says...

Coaching staff and players to blame? NO NO and thrice NO, with another no for good measure.

Shebby out

Henning Berg out.

Once again......We were doing alright this season before Berg came along and before Shebby came along. More than that we were doing great before the Venkys came along.

It is all very simple to analyze. I have seen clips on the net when HB just completely blanks Eric Black. Who says HB actually listens to the coaching staff?

RUBBISH SHEBBY!

Pack your bags both of you
Coaching staff and players to blame? NO NO and thrice NO, with another no for good measure. Shebby out Henning Berg out. Once again......We were doing alright this season before Berg came along and before Shebby came along. More than that we were doing great before the Venkys came along. It is all very simple to analyze. I have seen clips on the net when HB just completely blanks Eric Black. Who says HB actually listens to the coaching staff? RUBBISH SHEBBY! Pack your bags both of you Nurseman

8:56pm Wed 12 Dec 12

Rovers75 says...

fanny_tickler. wrote:
What happens when Shebby has no one left to sack? Will he turn the gun on himself? Who will be your Global Advisor in League One?
heard it all before..... what a tw4t
[quote][p][bold]fanny_tickler.[/bold] wrote: What happens when Shebby has no one left to sack? Will he turn the gun on himself? Who will be your Global Advisor in League One?[/p][/quote]heard it all before..... what a tw4t Rovers75

8:57pm Wed 12 Dec 12

Rovers75 says...

actually fanny that wasn't meant for you.... lol
actually fanny that wasn't meant for you.... lol Rovers75

8:59pm Wed 12 Dec 12

Captain Dreckley says...

Well Mr Football genius Singh is back trying to state the obvious and even making a mess of that. What is the man trying to say? He makes wild statements with nothing to back them up. Lame sh*t excuses like not giving specifics. No specifics because there are none and him and his stooges haven't a clue what to do. It has taken some time to finally come up with a phrase that sums up Singh's efforts to run our club and it comes from the Clint Eastwood movie Heartbreak Ridge and that is " cluster f*ck'. This guy has the anti Midas touch- everything he touches turns to sh*t
Well Mr Football genius Singh is back trying to state the obvious and even making a mess of that. What is the man trying to say? He makes wild statements with nothing to back them up. Lame sh*t excuses like not giving specifics. No specifics because there are none and him and his stooges haven't a clue what to do. It has taken some time to finally come up with a phrase that sums up Singh's efforts to run our club and it comes from the Clint Eastwood movie Heartbreak Ridge and that is " cluster f*ck'. This guy has the anti Midas touch- everything he touches turns to sh*t Captain Dreckley

9:03pm Wed 12 Dec 12

silverstan says...

HitchinRover wrote:
Dan11 wrote:
MESSAGE TO SHEBBY-

OUT WITH THE USELESS SPINE OF THIS "TEAM".

ROBINSON
DANN
HANLEY
MURPHY
ETUHU

IN with QUALITY PLAYERS.

This will go a long way to getting the team winning again. Thus far our only impressive win was against Peterboro who are clearly a league 1 team. That is simply not acceptable.
Why get rid of Robinson? The guys shown his loyalty and is still a quality keeper, definitely one of the best in the championship. And Hanley hardly deserves to go he's a young lad that shows a lot of promise, probably doesn't deserve to start every game but he's far from useless.
Here here, Robbo for England !!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]HitchinRover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dan11[/bold] wrote: MESSAGE TO SHEBBY- OUT WITH THE USELESS SPINE OF THIS "TEAM". ROBINSON DANN HANLEY MURPHY ETUHU IN with QUALITY PLAYERS. This will go a long way to getting the team winning again. Thus far our only impressive win was against Peterboro who are clearly a league 1 team. That is simply not acceptable.[/p][/quote]Why get rid of Robinson? The guys shown his loyalty and is still a quality keeper, definitely one of the best in the championship. And Hanley hardly deserves to go he's a young lad that shows a lot of promise, probably doesn't deserve to start every game but he's far from useless.[/p][/quote]Here here, Robbo for England !!!!!! silverstan

9:05pm Wed 12 Dec 12

BlueSkies says...

Some boring gits on here, you were posting before Shabby had finished woffling. You couldn't have listened to his haha words of wisdom
Some boring gits on here, you were posting before Shabby had finished woffling. You couldn't have listened to his haha words of wisdom BlueSkies

9:07pm Wed 12 Dec 12

Harwoodstblue says...

Nurseman wrote:
Coaching staff and players to blame? NO NO and thrice NO, with another no for good measure.

Shebby out

Henning Berg out.

Once again......We were doing alright this season before Berg came along and before Shebby came along. More than that we were doing great before the Venkys came along.

It is all very simple to analyze. I have seen clips on the net when HB just completely blanks Eric Black. Who says HB actually listens to the coaching staff?

RUBBISH SHEBBY!

Pack your bags both of you
Eric Black was doing alright as caretaker, whilst Singh was ignoring the fans and Shaw (remember Shaw wanted Holloway ) and going about picking his own manager., who strangely had to be an ex player. The demise of the last few weeks is purely and simply down to Singh.
[quote][p][bold]Nurseman[/bold] wrote: Coaching staff and players to blame? NO NO and thrice NO, with another no for good measure. Shebby out Henning Berg out. Once again......We were doing alright this season before Berg came along and before Shebby came along. More than that we were doing great before the Venkys came along. It is all very simple to analyze. I have seen clips on the net when HB just completely blanks Eric Black. Who says HB actually listens to the coaching staff? RUBBISH SHEBBY! Pack your bags both of you[/p][/quote]Eric Black was doing alright as caretaker, whilst Singh was ignoring the fans and Shaw (remember Shaw wanted Holloway ) and going about picking his own manager., who strangely had to be an ex player. The demise of the last few weeks is purely and simply down to Singh. Harwoodstblue

9:15pm Wed 12 Dec 12

silverstan says...

Berg's record in Norwegian management was dismal to say the least, I said it was a bad appointment from the start & am so far being proved right, we need a proven tough nut manager to kick these overpaid players up the arse & get us back where we belong !!!!
Berg's record in Norwegian management was dismal to say the least, I said it was a bad appointment from the start & am so far being proved right, we need a proven tough nut manager to kick these overpaid players up the arse & get us back where we belong !!!! silverstan

9:15pm Wed 12 Dec 12

ghost of sceptic says...

Bezza94-95 wrote:
ETUHU AND MURPHY HAVE NOT BEEN GOOD ENOUGH BUT I BELIEVE CAN BOTH IMPROVE WITH THE RIGHT COACHING. HANLEY AND DANN ARE BOTH LOST CAUSES. IN ALL MY YEARS AT EWOOD I HAVE NEVER SEEN SUCH AN INEPT CENTRAL DEFENSIVE DUO. SLOW, NO LEADERSHIP QUALITIES AND BOTH DON'T CONCENTRATE FOR THE FULL 90 MINUTES. THEY ARE THE MAIN PROBLEM GET 'EM BOTH OUT IN JAN AND REPLACE WITH AT LEAST SOME EXPERIENCE. HANLEY NEEDS TO LOSE WEIGHT AND START CONCENTRATING ON BEING A PRO FOOTBALLER INSTEAD OF JUST THE HIGH LIFE THAT COMES WITH IT.
And just how much coaching do you think Etuhu and Murphy need at there age, both players are past it, no amount of coaching can reignite youth passion or desire they ar finished.
[quote][p][bold]Bezza94-95[/bold] wrote: ETUHU AND MURPHY HAVE NOT BEEN GOOD ENOUGH BUT I BELIEVE CAN BOTH IMPROVE WITH THE RIGHT COACHING. HANLEY AND DANN ARE BOTH LOST CAUSES. IN ALL MY YEARS AT EWOOD I HAVE NEVER SEEN SUCH AN INEPT CENTRAL DEFENSIVE DUO. SLOW, NO LEADERSHIP QUALITIES AND BOTH DON'T CONCENTRATE FOR THE FULL 90 MINUTES. THEY ARE THE MAIN PROBLEM GET 'EM BOTH OUT IN JAN AND REPLACE WITH AT LEAST SOME EXPERIENCE. HANLEY NEEDS TO LOSE WEIGHT AND START CONCENTRATING ON BEING A PRO FOOTBALLER INSTEAD OF JUST THE HIGH LIFE THAT COMES WITH IT.[/p][/quote]And just how much coaching do you think Etuhu and Murphy need at there age, both players are past it, no amount of coaching can reignite youth passion or desire they ar finished. ghost of sceptic

9:39pm Wed 12 Dec 12

dallydally says...

What a complete shambles. Shebby's comments are farcical. Clear off all of you and give us our club back!
What a complete shambles. Shebby's comments are farcical. Clear off all of you and give us our club back! dallydally

9:50pm Wed 12 Dec 12

burnleyglentoran says...

B******** fan - "we wurr told you wurr millionurrrs!"

Agent Singh - 'some people are half glass full, some people are half empty...I'm just glad there's some water in it...you know'

Its not water Agent Singh, its tears, tears of joy and laughter from the footballing world!!!

BRKFC - THE PANTOMIME THAT'S NOT JUST FOR CHRISTMAS
B******** fan - "we wurr told you wurr millionurrrs!" Agent Singh - 'some people are half glass full, some people are half empty...I'm just glad there's some water in it...you know' Its not water Agent Singh, its tears, tears of joy and laughter from the footballing world!!! BRKFC - THE PANTOMIME THAT'S NOT JUST FOR CHRISTMAS burnleyglentoran

9:58pm Wed 12 Dec 12

French Rover says...

IMO Shebby should be saying nothing outside the club. The owners should stop him from issuing self-defeating statements which are quickly withdraw and overturned once it is plain that there is a bad fan reaction. Shebby seems to be trying to pander to the fans many differing comments rather than get on with running the football club in the professional way it needs to be run. Yes we complained about having zero communication previously - but now we have too much communication and it is all just garbage. Get someone in to manage the day to day and long term business side of the club and who can support Berg properly. Right now it seems Berg is trying to do the job with his hands tied behind his back regarding who he can and who he cant play and probably under orders on another dozen things as well. If he does not get what and who he wants in the Jan window then Berg should walk away from the circus while he still can.

I am a realist though and we have to remember why we are in the championship in the first place - and that is cos we were rubbish in the prem last season. Yet we are STILL (unbelievably) higher in the table than the other 2 clubs that came down with us (Bolton & Wolves) and who the bookies tipped (along with us) as being among the favorites to go back-up. What a strange game this football thingy is....All is rotten in the state of Denmark, Blackburn, most of the championship and football in general it seems..
IMO Shebby should be saying nothing outside the club. The owners should stop him from issuing self-defeating statements which are quickly withdraw and overturned once it is plain that there is a bad fan reaction. Shebby seems to be trying to pander to the fans many differing comments rather than get on with running the football club in the professional way it needs to be run. Yes we complained about having zero communication previously - but now we have too much communication and it is all just garbage. Get someone in to manage the day to day and long term business side of the club and who can support Berg properly. Right now it seems Berg is trying to do the job with his hands tied behind his back regarding who he can and who he cant play and probably under orders on another dozen things as well. If he does not get what and who he wants in the Jan window then Berg should walk away from the circus while he still can. I am a realist though and we have to remember why we are in the championship in the first place - and that is cos we were rubbish in the prem last season. Yet we are STILL (unbelievably) higher in the table than the other 2 clubs that came down with us (Bolton & Wolves) and who the bookies tipped (along with us) as being among the favorites to go back-up. What a strange game this football thingy is....All is rotten in the state of Denmark, Blackburn, most of the championship and football in general it seems.. French Rover

10:09pm Wed 12 Dec 12

cboyer says...

1riversider wrote:
cboyer wrote:
1riversider wrote:
Here's an idea Shebby - sack yourself, and take the other Stooges with you. You couldn't possibly make this story up - a bunch of incompetents (the Three Stooges) deciding on the future of another bunch of incompetents (the coaching staff), And why isn't Hendry included in all this? Why don't you all just F off!!

SHYSTERS GET OUT OF OUR CLUB
why would you want shebby out? i think he talks sense and has improved things since he came in! obviously id be happy if venkys went but while they are still here like an irritating nasty rash that you just cant get rid of then im afraid shebby is our only hope :(
Sorry mate, but if you think Shebby talks sense and has improved things then you know less about football than Venky's do! The man is a complete moron, who can't put his brain in gear before opening his mouth, and when he does talk, spouts absolute garbage. Just look at what has happened since his arrival.

SHYSTERS GET OUT OF OUR CLUB
kean would still be here if shebby wasnt and when he appointed berg 90% of people on here was happy with that decision now things havnt improved on the pitch you saying shebby out? he is the only person who is trying to get rid of the dead wood i think having shebby out wouldnt improve anything but venkys out would iomprove everythin that is just my opinion
[quote][p][bold]1riversider[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cboyer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]1riversider[/bold] wrote: Here's an idea Shebby - sack yourself, and take the other Stooges with you. You couldn't possibly make this story up - a bunch of incompetents (the Three Stooges) deciding on the future of another bunch of incompetents (the coaching staff), And why isn't Hendry included in all this? Why don't you all just F off!! SHYSTERS GET OUT OF OUR CLUB[/p][/quote]why would you want shebby out? i think he talks sense and has improved things since he came in! obviously id be happy if venkys went but while they are still here like an irritating nasty rash that you just cant get rid of then im afraid shebby is our only hope :([/p][/quote]Sorry mate, but if you think Shebby talks sense and has improved things then you know less about football than Venky's do! The man is a complete moron, who can't put his brain in gear before opening his mouth, and when he does talk, spouts absolute garbage. Just look at what has happened since his arrival. SHYSTERS GET OUT OF OUR CLUB[/p][/quote]kean would still be here if shebby wasnt and when he appointed berg 90% of people on here was happy with that decision now things havnt improved on the pitch you saying shebby out? he is the only person who is trying to get rid of the dead wood i think having shebby out wouldnt improve anything but venkys out would iomprove everythin that is just my opinion cboyer

10:25pm Wed 12 Dec 12

A Rover 45 years and over says...

One or two players are not delivering the quality they are cabable of on a regular basis and some do not show the energy or drive required. You might as well be without these players if you wish to have the good mentality required to compete at the top level. This means that money is being thrown down the drain and will finish up being a disaster for every one. Also the players seem confused with passing game going forward. Some unhappy players will have a genuine reason for being unhappy and this needs to be addressed. The others should be moved on if not doing the business and then complaining when not selected.
One or two players are not delivering the quality they are cabable of on a regular basis and some do not show the energy or drive required. You might as well be without these players if you wish to have the good mentality required to compete at the top level. This means that money is being thrown down the drain and will finish up being a disaster for every one. Also the players seem confused with passing game going forward. Some unhappy players will have a genuine reason for being unhappy and this needs to be addressed. The others should be moved on if not doing the business and then complaining when not selected. A Rover 45 years and over

10:40pm Wed 12 Dec 12

Nuttall Street says...

cboyer wrote:
1riversider wrote:
cboyer wrote:
1riversider wrote:
Here's an idea Shebby - sack yourself, and take the other Stooges with you. You couldn't possibly make this story up - a bunch of incompetents (the Three Stooges) deciding on the future of another bunch of incompetents (the coaching staff), And why isn't Hendry included in all this? Why don't you all just F off!!

SHYSTERS GET OUT OF OUR CLUB
why would you want shebby out? i think he talks sense and has improved things since he came in! obviously id be happy if venkys went but while they are still here like an irritating nasty rash that you just cant get rid of then im afraid shebby is our only hope :(
Sorry mate, but if you think Shebby talks sense and has improved things then you know less about football than Venky's do! The man is a complete moron, who can't put his brain in gear before opening his mouth, and when he does talk, spouts absolute garbage. Just look at what has happened since his arrival.

SHYSTERS GET OUT OF OUR CLUB
kean would still be here if shebby wasnt and when he appointed berg 90% of people on here was happy with that decision now things havnt improved on the pitch you saying shebby out? he is the only person who is trying to get rid of the dead wood i think having shebby out wouldnt improve anything but venkys out would iomprove everythin that is just my opinion
Well,cboyer, your opinion's rubbish!
[quote][p][bold]cboyer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]1riversider[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cboyer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]1riversider[/bold] wrote: Here's an idea Shebby - sack yourself, and take the other Stooges with you. You couldn't possibly make this story up - a bunch of incompetents (the Three Stooges) deciding on the future of another bunch of incompetents (the coaching staff), And why isn't Hendry included in all this? Why don't you all just F off!! SHYSTERS GET OUT OF OUR CLUB[/p][/quote]why would you want shebby out? i think he talks sense and has improved things since he came in! obviously id be happy if venkys went but while they are still here like an irritating nasty rash that you just cant get rid of then im afraid shebby is our only hope :([/p][/quote]Sorry mate, but if you think Shebby talks sense and has improved things then you know less about football than Venky's do! The man is a complete moron, who can't put his brain in gear before opening his mouth, and when he does talk, spouts absolute garbage. Just look at what has happened since his arrival. SHYSTERS GET OUT OF OUR CLUB[/p][/quote]kean would still be here if shebby wasnt and when he appointed berg 90% of people on here was happy with that decision now things havnt improved on the pitch you saying shebby out? he is the only person who is trying to get rid of the dead wood i think having shebby out wouldnt improve anything but venkys out would iomprove everythin that is just my opinion[/p][/quote]Well,cboyer, your opinion's rubbish! Nuttall Street

10:50pm Wed 12 Dec 12

Gaz M says...

George White Bread wrote:
You just couldn't make this up! The circus continues to amuse everybody down at Trampwood. Next, Shebby will be firing himself out of a cannon.

Billy smarts FC.
yes and I,d load the barsteward into it myself !!
[quote][p][bold]George White Bread[/bold] wrote: You just couldn't make this up! The circus continues to amuse everybody down at Trampwood. Next, Shebby will be firing himself out of a cannon. Billy smarts FC.[/p][/quote]yes and I,d load the barsteward into it myself !! Gaz M

10:52pm Wed 12 Dec 12

OnePostThenTheOther says...

One more surge in the torrent of effluent that flows down from Mount Venky. For "decisive action" read January Fire Sale.
One more surge in the torrent of effluent that flows down from Mount Venky. For "decisive action" read January Fire Sale. OnePostThenTheOther

4:16am Thu 13 Dec 12

andyproc says...

Nurseman wrote:
Coaching staff and players to blame? NO NO and thrice NO, with another no for good measure.

Shebby out

Henning Berg out.

Once again......We were doing alright this season before Berg came along and before Shebby came along. More than that we were doing great before the Venkys came along.

It is all very simple to analyze. I have seen clips on the net when HB just completely blanks Eric Black. Who says HB actually listens to the coaching staff?

RUBBISH SHEBBY!

Pack your bags both of you
Kean in???????
[quote][p][bold]Nurseman[/bold] wrote: Coaching staff and players to blame? NO NO and thrice NO, with another no for good measure. Shebby out Henning Berg out. Once again......We were doing alright this season before Berg came along and before Shebby came along. More than that we were doing great before the Venkys came along. It is all very simple to analyze. I have seen clips on the net when HB just completely blanks Eric Black. Who says HB actually listens to the coaching staff? RUBBISH SHEBBY! Pack your bags both of you[/p][/quote]Kean in??????? andyproc

5:54am Thu 13 Dec 12

whappen says...

bobinspain wrote:
Harwoodstblue wrote:
bobinspain wrote:
juanbbien wrote: Oh heck
You've got to hand it to Singh. He's a master of motivation and a mullah of morale where shepherding his coaching staff are concerned. Mind you, he's only been at the club for two years, so it's early days yet. He really should try his hand at organising pi$$ ups in breweries first though. Once (and if) he gets the hang of it, he could try again at running a football club, (preferably one outside Lancashire please).
You got it wrong Bob....Singh has only been at the club for a few short months and we already know he's a clown.
My apologies Harwood. I erroneously conflated Singh with Venky's and mistook them for folk of the same stripe. They certainly appear to be so, in their desire to emasculate BRFC to the point of defenestration.
...... conflated (1) Singh with Venky's ......
.......in their desire to emasculate (2) BRFC ......
.......defenestratio
n (3).

Just for clarity....

1) to join or merge two or more things into a unified whole
2) to deprive somebody or something of effectiveness, spirit, or force
3) to throw something or somebody out of a window

2's obvious; I got 1, given the context in which it was used but 3? Impressive,

And ".....folk of the same stripe"? Poetic.
[quote][p][bold]bobinspain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bobinspain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]juanbbien[/bold] wrote: Oh heck[/p][/quote]You've got to hand it to Singh. He's a master of motivation and a mullah of morale where shepherding his coaching staff are concerned. Mind you, he's only been at the club for two years, so it's early days yet. He really should try his hand at organising pi$$ ups in breweries first though. Once (and if) he gets the hang of it, he could try again at running a football club, (preferably one outside Lancashire please).[/p][/quote]You got it wrong Bob....Singh has only been at the club for a few short months and we already know he's a clown.[/p][/quote]My apologies Harwood. I erroneously conflated Singh with Venky's and mistook them for folk of the same stripe. They certainly appear to be so, in their desire to emasculate BRFC to the point of defenestration.[/p][/quote]...... conflated (1) Singh with Venky's ...... .......in their desire to emasculate (2) BRFC ...... .......defenestratio n (3). Just for clarity.... 1) to join or merge two or more things into a unified whole 2) to deprive somebody or something of effectiveness, spirit, or force 3) to throw something or somebody out of a window 2's obvious; I got 1, given the context in which it was used but 3? Impressive, And ".....folk of the same stripe"? Poetic. whappen

6:05am Thu 13 Dec 12

Bigbry says...

Merry f••king Christmas!!
Shebby your a tw•t!!
Merry f••king Christmas!! Shebby your a tw•t!! Bigbry

7:47am Thu 13 Dec 12

MatthewCA says...

How is the players feel with decisive action in Blackburn

Who is burning OUT, Players or Staff members.
How is the players feel with decisive action in Blackburn Who is burning OUT, Players or Staff members. MatthewCA

8:12am Thu 13 Dec 12

jonjonweatherman says...

Henning Berg needs to consult Dalglish and find out how he did the job. I suspect he would say find a coach to match Hartford.
Henning Berg needs to consult Dalglish and find out how he did the job. I suspect he would say find a coach to match Hartford. jonjonweatherman

8:20am Thu 13 Dec 12

Harwoodstblue says...

jonjonweatherman wrote:
Henning Berg needs to consult Dalglish and find out how he did the job. I suspect he would say find a coach to match Hartford.
It appears, I'm afraid that Henning can do nothing without the nod from Singh.
[quote][p][bold]jonjonweatherman[/bold] wrote: Henning Berg needs to consult Dalglish and find out how he did the job. I suspect he would say find a coach to match Hartford.[/p][/quote]It appears, I'm afraid that Henning can do nothing without the nod from Singh. Harwoodstblue

8:54am Thu 13 Dec 12

MatthewCA says...

A Rover 45 years and over wrote:
One or two players are not delivering the quality they are cabable of on a regular basis and some do not show the energy or drive required. You might as well be without these players if you wish to have the good mentality required to compete at the top level. This means that money is being thrown down the drain and will finish up being a disaster for every one. Also the players seem confused with passing game going forward. Some unhappy players will have a genuine reason for being unhappy and this needs to be addressed. The others should be moved on if not doing the business and then complaining when not selected.
All most there , Still problems with senior and youg players selection.
[quote][p][bold]A Rover 45 years and over[/bold] wrote: One or two players are not delivering the quality they are cabable of on a regular basis and some do not show the energy or drive required. You might as well be without these players if you wish to have the good mentality required to compete at the top level. This means that money is being thrown down the drain and will finish up being a disaster for every one. Also the players seem confused with passing game going forward. Some unhappy players will have a genuine reason for being unhappy and this needs to be addressed. The others should be moved on if not doing the business and then complaining when not selected.[/p][/quote]All most there , Still problems with senior and youg players selection. MatthewCA

8:54am Thu 13 Dec 12

speedie_rovers_legend says...

I said when the clown singh took over that he talks a load of cobblers , i have been listening to the clown here in thailand on espn sports since 1997, he is known as a joke over here, and then when he takes over as the big man at blackburn it is quite incredible a football pundit running the club!!!!!!!!
I said when the clown singh took over that he talks a load of cobblers , i have been listening to the clown here in thailand on espn sports since 1997, he is known as a joke over here, and then when he takes over as the big man at blackburn it is quite incredible a football pundit running the club!!!!!!!! speedie_rovers_legend

8:56am Thu 13 Dec 12

MatthewCA says...

Lancs - pensioner wrote:
Crow27 wrote:
Ibelieve a few of things need to happen;
1) Don't let these four get together again, p**s up, brewery etc.
2) Let Berg have his own staff no matter how much, the Venkys have made a profit from us.
3) Let Berg get rid of players he doesn't want. If he is the manager he should be allowed to do this!
4) Play Givet!
5) Get rid of a useless defence coach/pension robber/girlfriend beater
PAY GIVET and PLAY GIVET
[quote][p][bold]Lancs - pensioner[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Crow27[/bold] wrote: Ibelieve a few of things need to happen; 1) Don't let these four get together again, p**s up, brewery etc. 2) Let Berg have his own staff no matter how much, the Venkys have made a profit from us. 3) Let Berg get rid of players he doesn't want. If he is the manager he should be allowed to do this! 4) Play Givet![/p][/quote]5) Get rid of a useless defence coach/pension robber/girlfriend beater[/p][/quote]PAY GIVET and PLAY GIVET MatthewCA

9:03am Thu 13 Dec 12

MatthewCA says...

GameRoverMan wrote:
"Colin Hendry is understood to be set to assist reserve team boss Gary Bowyer..." What, on a salary of £8K a week?
they lost the match after this news........!!!
[quote][p][bold]GameRoverMan[/bold] wrote: "Colin Hendry is understood to be set to assist reserve team boss Gary Bowyer..." What, on a salary of £8K a week?[/p][/quote]they lost the match after this news........!!! MatthewCA

9:05am Thu 13 Dec 12

MatthewCA says...

fanny_tickler. wrote:
Shebby Singh is a football genius!
Not true, he is just a TV. Switch ON
[quote][p][bold]fanny_tickler.[/bold] wrote: Shebby Singh is a football genius![/p][/quote]Not true, he is just a TV. Switch ON MatthewCA

9:07am Thu 13 Dec 12

MatthewCA says...

A Darener wrote:
Freidel in. Player/coach.
Hennings own players in, deadwood out.
Once Henning has his own staff/ players then the excuses have to stop.
Feb 1st D Day. All must be well and good by then.
Only Hope, Players one each position should improve there skills.
[quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: Freidel in. Player/coach. Hennings own players in, deadwood out. Once Henning has his own staff/ players then the excuses have to stop. Feb 1st D Day. All must be well and good by then.[/p][/quote]Only Hope, Players one each position should improve there skills. MatthewCA

9:08am Thu 13 Dec 12

MatthewCA says...

Dukes wrote:
SAME old **** at rovers time Venkys just sod off now take the lose cannons with them.

VENKYS OUT
not going to happen in our life time..........
[quote][p][bold]Dukes[/bold] wrote: SAME old **** at rovers time Venkys just sod off now take the lose cannons with them. VENKYS OUT[/p][/quote]not going to happen in our life time.......... MatthewCA

9:13am Thu 13 Dec 12

MatthewCA says...

A Darener wrote:
Sorry matthewCA but your grasp of written English is getting worse not better. I think a visit to a tutor is called for. However much we love hearing from you your rambling are getting too difficult to decipher.
written english - I will ask my computer to correct it ....ok Darener
[quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: Sorry matthewCA but your grasp of written English is getting worse not better. I think a visit to a tutor is called for. However much we love hearing from you your rambling are getting too difficult to decipher.[/p][/quote]written english - I will ask my computer to correct it ....ok Darener MatthewCA

9:47am Thu 13 Dec 12

A Darener says...

MatthewCA wrote:
A Darener wrote:
Sorry matthewCA but your grasp of written English is getting worse not better. I think a visit to a tutor is called for. However much we love hearing from you your rambling are getting too difficult to decipher.
written english - I will ask my computer to correct it ....ok Darener
That is the problem with computers....Garbage in garbage out!
[quote][p][bold]MatthewCA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: Sorry matthewCA but your grasp of written English is getting worse not better. I think a visit to a tutor is called for. However much we love hearing from you your rambling are getting too difficult to decipher.[/p][/quote]written english - I will ask my computer to correct it ....ok Darener[/p][/quote]That is the problem with computers....Garbage in garbage out! A Darener

10:01am Thu 13 Dec 12

roverinmanchstr says...

Riverside 7 wrote:
I believe the finger should also be pointing at the members of the Board who where responsible for Berg's appointment - namely Shebby, Shaw and Agnew. This bunch of idiots took 5 weeks to identify Berg as the man to lead Rovers back to the Premier League this season. Lets be honest, if most Rovers fans had been asked to name 10 people to succeed Kean I am certain that Berg's name would not have appeared in the 10. I would dearly like to know how they arrived at their choice ahead of;- 1) international and former international team managers such as Trapattoni & Schuster, 2) experienced Premier League Managers such as Holloway & McCarthy, 3) successful overseas maagers such as Solskjaer, I along with most Rovers fans were repared to give Berg our full support but I am afraid that after 8 games in charge Berg has done nothing to change my opinion that he was the wrong choice for Blackburn Rovers. Just 5 points from a possible 24 is relegation form and we look nothing like a side that will challenge for promoton this year. I will admit that he inherited an unbalanced and unfit squad of players but he has done the impossible and got less out of the current squad than ether Kean or Black. His team selections, formations use of substitutes have been very poor and warning bells ought to be sounding loud and clear. If we lose on Saturday we ought to cut our losses now before giving him any money to spend in January and bring in Mark Hughes as soon as as posssible. After all Hughes ticks the only box that appears to count to this Board - he was an ex-player.
BUT, No 'Decent' Manager will work for Venky's...Comprehend
????
[quote][p][bold]Riverside 7[/bold] wrote: I believe the finger should also be pointing at the members of the Board who where responsible for Berg's appointment - namely Shebby, Shaw and Agnew. This bunch of idiots took 5 weeks to identify Berg as the man to lead Rovers back to the Premier League this season. Lets be honest, if most Rovers fans had been asked to name 10 people to succeed Kean I am certain that Berg's name would not have appeared in the 10. I would dearly like to know how they arrived at their choice ahead of;- 1) international and former international team managers such as Trapattoni & Schuster, 2) experienced Premier League Managers such as Holloway & McCarthy, 3) successful overseas maagers such as Solskjaer, I along with most Rovers fans were repared to give Berg our full support but I am afraid that after 8 games in charge Berg has done nothing to change my opinion that he was the wrong choice for Blackburn Rovers. Just 5 points from a possible 24 is relegation form and we look nothing like a side that will challenge for promoton this year. I will admit that he inherited an unbalanced and unfit squad of players but he has done the impossible and got less out of the current squad than ether Kean or Black. His team selections, formations use of substitutes have been very poor and warning bells ought to be sounding loud and clear. If we lose on Saturday we ought to cut our losses now before giving him any money to spend in January and bring in Mark Hughes as soon as as posssible. After all Hughes ticks the only box that appears to count to this Board - he was an ex-player.[/p][/quote]BUT, No 'Decent' Manager will work for Venky's...Comprehend ???? roverinmanchstr

10:34am Thu 13 Dec 12

walshy2866 says...

claretandblue wrote:
Harwoodstblue wrote:
Lancs - pensioner wrote:
Lancs - pensioner wrote:
Crow27 wrote:
Ibelieve a few of things need to happen;
1) Don't let these four get together again, p**s up, brewery etc.
2) Let Berg have his own staff no matter how much, the Venkys have made a profit from us.
3) Let Berg get rid of players he doesn't want. If he is the manager he should be allowed to do this!
4) Play Givet!
5) Get rid of a useless defence coach/pension robber/girlfriend beater
6) play two up front

Anymore?
Yes Venkys....Make available the £5 million pounds each transfer window as you Promised.
You've just spent 8 million on a striker you muppet! What more do you want? Tell you what...why don't you try something radical....like getting behind your team. You've no divine right to be in the premier league. Get over it. You're back where you belong. For the time being!
Yes and you've been where you deserve for nearly 40 years, stuck with a bunch of gold digging owners, taking money week after week from idiots stupid enough to pay it. Unlike us though you've been that wrapped up in wanting your neighbours to fail that you didn't see it happening.
Big difference is we care for our club ahead of wanting others to fail and won't put up with it like you simpletons.
Do we appear on your forums in similar volume?
No because we're not interested. If you lot concentrated on your own club you might get the "comment" count into double figures.
8 million for 1 player eh, its stuff like that , that fascinates you lot. That would buy your squad and leave enough money to bulldoze that ****-tip of an away end and replace it with something from this millennium!
[quote][p][bold]claretandblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lancs - pensioner[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lancs - pensioner[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Crow27[/bold] wrote: Ibelieve a few of things need to happen; 1) Don't let these four get together again, p**s up, brewery etc. 2) Let Berg have his own staff no matter how much, the Venkys have made a profit from us. 3) Let Berg get rid of players he doesn't want. If he is the manager he should be allowed to do this! 4) Play Givet![/p][/quote]5) Get rid of a useless defence coach/pension robber/girlfriend beater[/p][/quote]6) play two up front Anymore?[/p][/quote]Yes Venkys....Make available the £5 million pounds each transfer window as you Promised.[/p][/quote]You've just spent 8 million on a striker you muppet! What more do you want? Tell you what...why don't you try something radical....like getting behind your team. You've no divine right to be in the premier league. Get over it. You're back where you belong. For the time being![/p][/quote]Yes and you've been where you deserve for nearly 40 years, stuck with a bunch of gold digging owners, taking money week after week from idiots stupid enough to pay it. Unlike us though you've been that wrapped up in wanting your neighbours to fail that you didn't see it happening. Big difference is we care for our club ahead of wanting others to fail and won't put up with it like you simpletons. Do we appear on your forums in similar volume? No because we're not interested. If you lot concentrated on your own club you might get the "comment" count into double figures. 8 million for 1 player eh, its stuff like that , that fascinates you lot. That would buy your squad and leave enough money to bulldoze that ****-tip of an away end and replace it with something from this millennium! walshy2866

11:17am Thu 13 Dec 12

blueblooded says...

Harwoodstblue wrote:
penrithrover wrote:
INDIANS ,
VERY NICE PEOPLE ,
BUT DOES ANYONE KNOW ANY INDIAN FOLK THAT HAS EVER PLAYED A HIGH LEVEL OF FOOTBALL ?

OR IN FACT DOES ANYONE KNOW ANY INDIANS THAT HAVE COACHED AT A HIGH LEVEL OF FOOTBALL .
WELL I DON`T BUT MAYBE THEY ARE ONE OR TWO.

INDIANS OR MALAYS OR IN FACT MALAY INDIANS HAVE NO PEDIGREE WHAT SO EVER IN FOOTBALL.

SHEBBY SINGH WAS THE TOKEN LOCAL T.V PUNDIT IN SINGAPORE ,HE SAT NEXT TO STEVE MCMAHON AND VARIOUS GUESTS LIKE BRYAN ROBSON, NO BRITISH PERSON OR IN FACT ANYONE THAT HAD ANY FOOTBALL NOUS EVER TOOK SHEBBY SINGHS COMMENTS SERIOUSLY ,HE WAS AND IS A JOKE FIGURE IN TV LAND IN THE FAR EAST , OBVIOUSLY THE DESAI FAMILY MUST HAVE SEEN HIM ON THE TV TALKING ABOUT FOOTBALL AND AS HE,LIKE THEM IS ALSO INDIAN,SO THE DESAIS FAMILY MUST HAVE PUT 2 AND 2 TOGETHER AND CAME UP WITH THE BIGGEST JOKE IN WORLD FOOTBALL , A CLOWN CALLED SHEBBY SINGH WITH A TITLE AS A "GLOBAL ADVISOR "
GOD PRESERVE US .
INDIAN OWNERS WITH A INDIAN GLOBAL ADVISOR RESPONSIBLE FOR RUNNING THE FOOTBALL CLUB , AS THE OLD BOY FROM 'DAD`S ARMY" USED TO SAY ' WE ARE DOOMED " .

APART FROM BERG, THERE ARE NO MEN OF HONOUR ,NO MEN OF DECENCY. NO MEN OF INTEGRITY , THE CLUB IS RUN AND MANAGED BY UNQUALIFIED MEN OF SOLACIOS GREED , I HOPE I AM WRONG BUT I FEAR THAT BERG COULD BE IN THE SAME GUZZLING, EVIL ,SINISTER BAND OF ROBBERS AS THE REST OF THEM.
.
LANCASHIRE IS THE BIRTH PLACE OF FOOTBALL , THE BIGGEST SPORT IN THE WORLD STARTED HERE IN LANCASHIRE ,THE HEARTLAND , ABOUT 150 YEARS AGO IT ALL STARTED RIGHT HERE IN ,LANCASHIRE ,THE BIRTHPLACE OF FOOTBALL,IN OUR TOWNS AND VALLEYS.

SO ACCEPTING THAT FOOTBALL IS AN ALIEN SPORT TO INDIANS AND MALAY INDIANS ,AN ALIEN SPORT TO PEOPLE FROM THE PUNJAB OR JAHOR BAHRU OR BANGLADESH ,THEN MY QUESTION IS WHY IS OUR TOWNS FOOTBALL CLUB ,A TOWN THAT HAS HAD A FOOTBALL CLUB BEFORE ELECTRICITY WAS INVENTED , BEFORE THEIR WAS EVEN RADIO, WHEN QUEEN VICTORIA WAS ON THE THRONE WHEN DISRAELI WAS PRIME MINISTER OF OUR COUNTRY ,WHY HAVE WE INDIANS FROM PUNE AND A SIKH FROM KUALA LUMPUR TOTALLY AND ABSOLUTELY MISMANAGING OUR BELOVED FOOTBALL CLUB ?
Anyone with one iota of common sense would put people in charge of their business who knew what they were doing. They already had the best and sacked them. What other small town team could mix it with the big boys of the Premiership for years ?
I am still suspicious of Venkys motives and will continue to say so.
Surely the question should be:

WWho in their right mind with any honour, integrity and respect would sell a club so deeply conencted to the town and its people as well as their own kin, to owners from a country with little knowledge of what it means to run a football club or even football itself?

loathsome selfish creatures of the lowest disdain maybe?
[quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]penrithrover[/bold] wrote: INDIANS , VERY NICE PEOPLE , BUT DOES ANYONE KNOW ANY INDIAN FOLK THAT HAS EVER PLAYED A HIGH LEVEL OF FOOTBALL ? OR IN FACT DOES ANYONE KNOW ANY INDIANS THAT HAVE COACHED AT A HIGH LEVEL OF FOOTBALL . WELL I DON`T BUT MAYBE THEY ARE ONE OR TWO. INDIANS OR MALAYS OR IN FACT MALAY INDIANS HAVE NO PEDIGREE WHAT SO EVER IN FOOTBALL. SHEBBY SINGH WAS THE TOKEN LOCAL T.V PUNDIT IN SINGAPORE ,HE SAT NEXT TO STEVE MCMAHON AND VARIOUS GUESTS LIKE BRYAN ROBSON, NO BRITISH PERSON OR IN FACT ANYONE THAT HAD ANY FOOTBALL NOUS EVER TOOK SHEBBY SINGHS COMMENTS SERIOUSLY ,HE WAS AND IS A JOKE FIGURE IN TV LAND IN THE FAR EAST , OBVIOUSLY THE DESAI FAMILY MUST HAVE SEEN HIM ON THE TV TALKING ABOUT FOOTBALL AND AS HE,LIKE THEM IS ALSO INDIAN,SO THE DESAIS FAMILY MUST HAVE PUT 2 AND 2 TOGETHER AND CAME UP WITH THE BIGGEST JOKE IN WORLD FOOTBALL , A CLOWN CALLED SHEBBY SINGH WITH A TITLE AS A "GLOBAL ADVISOR " GOD PRESERVE US . INDIAN OWNERS WITH A INDIAN GLOBAL ADVISOR RESPONSIBLE FOR RUNNING THE FOOTBALL CLUB , AS THE OLD BOY FROM 'DAD`S ARMY" USED TO SAY ' WE ARE DOOMED " . APART FROM BERG, THERE ARE NO MEN OF HONOUR ,NO MEN OF DECENCY. NO MEN OF INTEGRITY , THE CLUB IS RUN AND MANAGED BY UNQUALIFIED MEN OF SOLACIOS GREED , I HOPE I AM WRONG BUT I FEAR THAT BERG COULD BE IN THE SAME GUZZLING, EVIL ,SINISTER BAND OF ROBBERS AS THE REST OF THEM. . LANCASHIRE IS THE BIRTH PLACE OF FOOTBALL , THE BIGGEST SPORT IN THE WORLD STARTED HERE IN LANCASHIRE ,THE HEARTLAND , ABOUT 150 YEARS AGO IT ALL STARTED RIGHT HERE IN ,LANCASHIRE ,THE BIRTHPLACE OF FOOTBALL,IN OUR TOWNS AND VALLEYS. SO ACCEPTING THAT FOOTBALL IS AN ALIEN SPORT TO INDIANS AND MALAY INDIANS ,AN ALIEN SPORT TO PEOPLE FROM THE PUNJAB OR JAHOR BAHRU OR BANGLADESH ,THEN MY QUESTION IS WHY IS OUR TOWNS FOOTBALL CLUB ,A TOWN THAT HAS HAD A FOOTBALL CLUB BEFORE ELECTRICITY WAS INVENTED , BEFORE THEIR WAS EVEN RADIO, WHEN QUEEN VICTORIA WAS ON THE THRONE WHEN DISRAELI WAS PRIME MINISTER OF OUR COUNTRY ,WHY HAVE WE INDIANS FROM PUNE AND A SIKH FROM KUALA LUMPUR TOTALLY AND ABSOLUTELY MISMANAGING OUR BELOVED FOOTBALL CLUB ?[/p][/quote]Anyone with one iota of common sense would put people in charge of their business who knew what they were doing. They already had the best and sacked them. What other small town team could mix it with the big boys of the Premiership for years ? I am still suspicious of Venkys motives and will continue to say so.[/p][/quote]Surely the question should be: WWho in their right mind with any honour, integrity and respect would sell a club so deeply conencted to the town and its people as well as their own kin, to owners from a country with little knowledge of what it means to run a football club or even football itself? loathsome selfish creatures of the lowest disdain maybe? blueblooded

11:20am Thu 13 Dec 12

walshy2866 says...

burnleyglentoran wrote:
B******** fan - "we wurr told you wurr millionurrrs!"

Agent Singh - 'some people are half glass full, some people are half empty...I'm just glad there's some water in it...you know'

Its not water Agent Singh, its tears, tears of joy and laughter from the footballing world!!!

BRKFC - THE PANTOMIME THAT'S NOT JUST FOR CHRISTMAS
And that's got exactly what to do with you or your club?
Oh sorry I forgot, you're more interested in Rovers than your own club.
Unlike some dingles who come on here (cos there's fu.ck all of any interest on their pages) you are not even funny. A bitter twisted mix of Burnley and Belfast eh? Both known for keeping it in the family. Cousins marrying cousins here and Prods marrying Prods there.
Our pantomime has only been running for 2 years, yours has gone on longer than The Mousetrap. Glass houses and throwing stones (or petrol bombs maybe in your case) springs to mind
[quote][p][bold]burnleyglentoran[/bold] wrote: B******** fan - "we wurr told you wurr millionurrrs!" Agent Singh - 'some people are half glass full, some people are half empty...I'm just glad there's some water in it...you know' Its not water Agent Singh, its tears, tears of joy and laughter from the footballing world!!! BRKFC - THE PANTOMIME THAT'S NOT JUST FOR CHRISTMAS[/p][/quote]And that's got exactly what to do with you or your club? Oh sorry I forgot, you're more interested in Rovers than your own club. Unlike some dingles who come on here (cos there's fu.ck all of any interest on their pages) you are not even funny. A bitter twisted mix of Burnley and Belfast eh? Both known for keeping it in the family. Cousins marrying cousins here and Prods marrying Prods there. Our pantomime has only been running for 2 years, yours has gone on longer than The Mousetrap. Glass houses and throwing stones (or petrol bombs maybe in your case) springs to mind walshy2866

11:59am Thu 13 Dec 12

bobinspain says...

whappen wrote:
bobinspain wrote:
Harwoodstblue wrote:
bobinspain wrote:
juanbbien wrote: Oh heck
You've got to hand it to Singh. He's a master of motivation and a mullah of morale where shepherding his coaching staff are concerned. Mind you, he's only been at the club for two years, so it's early days yet. He really should try his hand at organising pi$$ ups in breweries first though. Once (and if) he gets the hang of it, he could try again at running a football club, (preferably one outside Lancashire please).
You got it wrong Bob....Singh has only been at the club for a few short months and we already know he's a clown.
My apologies Harwood. I erroneously conflated Singh with Venky's and mistook them for folk of the same stripe. They certainly appear to be so, in their desire to emasculate BRFC to the point of defenestration.
...... conflated (1) Singh with Venky's ......
.......in their desire to emasculate (2) BRFC ......
.......defenestratio

n (3).

Just for clarity....

1) to join or merge two or more things into a unified whole
2) to deprive somebody or something of effectiveness, spirit, or force
3) to throw something or somebody out of a window

2's obvious; I got 1, given the context in which it was used but 3? Impressive,

And ".....folk of the same stripe"? Poetic.
whappen

At Towneley school in the early 60s, my English master was Mr Housby. I recall him, (as instantaneous retribution for 'cheeking' him), slapping me across the face when I was 15 and telling me, "one day, you'll regret speaking like a yob."
The blow was a shock, but it transformed my appreciation of language and I resolved from then on, to read voraciously with a dictionary by my side.
A commission in Her Majesty's forces followed University and I've seldom looked back, save to be thankful for a slap, which of course could never happen today.
Pip-pip!
[quote][p][bold]whappen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bobinspain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bobinspain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]juanbbien[/bold] wrote: Oh heck[/p][/quote]You've got to hand it to Singh. He's a master of motivation and a mullah of morale where shepherding his coaching staff are concerned. Mind you, he's only been at the club for two years, so it's early days yet. He really should try his hand at organising pi$$ ups in breweries first though. Once (and if) he gets the hang of it, he could try again at running a football club, (preferably one outside Lancashire please).[/p][/quote]You got it wrong Bob....Singh has only been at the club for a few short months and we already know he's a clown.[/p][/quote]My apologies Harwood. I erroneously conflated Singh with Venky's and mistook them for folk of the same stripe. They certainly appear to be so, in their desire to emasculate BRFC to the point of defenestration.[/p][/quote]...... conflated (1) Singh with Venky's ...... .......in their desire to emasculate (2) BRFC ...... .......defenestratio n (3). Just for clarity.... 1) to join or merge two or more things into a unified whole 2) to deprive somebody or something of effectiveness, spirit, or force 3) to throw something or somebody out of a window 2's obvious; I got 1, given the context in which it was used but 3? Impressive, And ".....folk of the same stripe"? Poetic.[/p][/quote]whappen At Towneley school in the early 60s, my English master was Mr Housby. I recall him, (as instantaneous retribution for 'cheeking' him), slapping me across the face when I was 15 and telling me, "one day, you'll regret speaking like a yob." The blow was a shock, but it transformed my appreciation of language and I resolved from then on, to read voraciously with a dictionary by my side. A commission in Her Majesty's forces followed University and I've seldom looked back, save to be thankful for a slap, which of course could never happen today. Pip-pip! bobinspain

12:58pm Thu 13 Dec 12

Riverside 7 says...

You may be right 'RoverinManchester' in saying that decent managers wouldn't work for Venkys but that did not stop numerous managers (including the names I mentioned) applying for the post a couple of months ago.

I believe that if more money had been made available by Venkys we would have ended up with a better option than Berg.
You may be right 'RoverinManchester' in saying that decent managers wouldn't work for Venkys but that did not stop numerous managers (including the names I mentioned) applying for the post a couple of months ago. I believe that if more money had been made available by Venkys we would have ended up with a better option than Berg. Riverside 7

1:10pm Thu 13 Dec 12

Riverside 7 says...

I think that 'bobinspain' has forgotten the comments made by Keith Hill after Barnsley's unlucky defeat at Ewood and recently by Darren Ferguson at Peterborough.
Both managers complained that it was impossible for their clubs to compete with Rovers mainly due to the parachute payments they were receiving.
Would they swap their positions and move to Ewood - of course they would and so would many others.
Our problems will come when the parachute payments end and we are still in the Championship - a scenario which is fast becoming a reality under Berg.
I think that 'bobinspain' has forgotten the comments made by Keith Hill after Barnsley's unlucky defeat at Ewood and recently by Darren Ferguson at Peterborough. Both managers complained that it was impossible for their clubs to compete with Rovers mainly due to the parachute payments they were receiving. Would they swap their positions and move to Ewood - of course they would and so would many others. Our problems will come when the parachute payments end and we are still in the Championship - a scenario which is fast becoming a reality under Berg. Riverside 7

9:07pm Thu 13 Dec 12

Rovers75 says...

walshy2866 wrote:
burnleyglentoran wrote:
B******** fan - "we wurr told you wurr millionurrrs!"

Agent Singh - 'some people are half glass full, some people are half empty...I'm just glad there's some water in it...you know'

Its not water Agent Singh, its tears, tears of joy and laughter from the footballing world!!!

BRKFC - THE PANTOMIME THAT'S NOT JUST FOR CHRISTMAS
And that's got exactly what to do with you or your club?
Oh sorry I forgot, you're more interested in Rovers than your own club.
Unlike some dingles who come on here (cos there's fu.ck all of any interest on their pages) you are not even funny. A bitter twisted mix of Burnley and Belfast eh? Both known for keeping it in the family. Cousins marrying cousins here and Prods marrying Prods there.
Our pantomime has only been running for 2 years, yours has gone on longer than The Mousetrap. Glass houses and throwing stones (or petrol bombs maybe in your case) springs to mind
WALLOP

you've just been smashed all over the place like a piece of sh1t yet again glentoran, this time by walshy.....

you just don't learn do you?

A sitting poison dingle duck, who time after time proves just how bitter and warped you easily pleased fools are with your endless desperate straw clutching drivel
[quote][p][bold]walshy2866[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]burnleyglentoran[/bold] wrote: B******** fan - "we wurr told you wurr millionurrrs!" Agent Singh - 'some people are half glass full, some people are half empty...I'm just glad there's some water in it...you know' Its not water Agent Singh, its tears, tears of joy and laughter from the footballing world!!! BRKFC - THE PANTOMIME THAT'S NOT JUST FOR CHRISTMAS[/p][/quote]And that's got exactly what to do with you or your club? Oh sorry I forgot, you're more interested in Rovers than your own club. Unlike some dingles who come on here (cos there's fu.ck all of any interest on their pages) you are not even funny. A bitter twisted mix of Burnley and Belfast eh? Both known for keeping it in the family. Cousins marrying cousins here and Prods marrying Prods there. Our pantomime has only been running for 2 years, yours has gone on longer than The Mousetrap. Glass houses and throwing stones (or petrol bombs maybe in your case) springs to mind[/p][/quote]WALLOP you've just been smashed all over the place like a piece of sh1t yet again glentoran, this time by walshy..... you just don't learn do you? A sitting poison dingle duck, who time after time proves just how bitter and warped you easily pleased fools are with your endless desperate straw clutching drivel Rovers75

5:25pm Fri 14 Dec 12

Fan@clared says...

noddymcleod wrote:
The people who also take advantage of slave and child labour in India are British high street retailers and unthinking British bargain hunters.
Shop ethically and sort out our own sewer rats in the retail industry who pay no taxes.
No the high street retailers hae nearly all gone. All we are left with on the High TStreet apart from from one or two are £ stores and charity shops. The big avaricious Supermarkets are to blame.. They are also thecause of most pubs closing and thus ruining our social life. Anyway most things are made in China not India. Do you know there are many billionaires in India - do think they care? Not a jot. Look at the Venky's. Have they reacted personally to what they have 'achieved' at Ewood? No.
[quote][p][bold]noddymcleod[/bold] wrote: The people who also take advantage of slave and child labour in India are British high street retailers and unthinking British bargain hunters. Shop ethically and sort out our own sewer rats in the retail industry who pay no taxes.[/p][/quote]No the high street retailers hae nearly all gone. All we are left with on the High TStreet apart from from one or two are £ stores and charity shops. The big avaricious Supermarkets are to blame.. They are also thecause of most pubs closing and thus ruining our social life. Anyway most things are made in China not India. Do you know there are many billionaires in India - do think they care? Not a jot. Look at the Venky's. Have they reacted personally to what they have 'achieved' at Ewood? No. Fan@clared

7:09am Mon 17 Dec 12

lancs1985 says...

Get shut of the useless heartless overpaid crap in ethuhu then sing song
Get some experience proven players in instead of some Mickey Mouse barca b crap who won't pass the ball, some portueges pir pir with no spice what so ever, time for proven English players in what are willing to fight for the club

Also them lay arse players should of been at brockhall at 7am Sunday morn after that perfectic performance last week and now last sat aswell, no crimbo bonus n I say

Give um a hoot up arse stop being a puppet n live upto your words that your the man
Get shut of the useless heartless overpaid crap in ethuhu then sing song Get some experience proven players in instead of some Mickey Mouse barca b crap who won't pass the ball, some portueges pir pir with no spice what so ever, time for proven English players in what are willing to fight for the club Also them lay arse players should of been at brockhall at 7am Sunday morn after that perfectic performance last week and now last sat aswell, no crimbo bonus n I say Give um a hoot up arse stop being a puppet n live upto your words that your the man lancs1985

7:09am Mon 17 Dec 12

lancs1985 says...

Get shut of the useless heartless overpaid crap in ethuhu then sing song
Get some experience proven players in instead of some Mickey Mouse barca b crap who won't pass the ball, some portueges pir pir with no spice what so ever, time for proven English players in what are willing to fight for the club

Also them lay arse players should of been at brockhall at 7am Sunday morn after that perfectic performance last week and now last sat aswell, no crimbo bonus n I say

Give um a hoot up arse stop being a puppet n live upto your words that your the man
Get shut of the useless heartless overpaid crap in ethuhu then sing song Get some experience proven players in instead of some Mickey Mouse barca b crap who won't pass the ball, some portueges pir pir with no spice what so ever, time for proven English players in what are willing to fight for the club Also them lay arse players should of been at brockhall at 7am Sunday morn after that perfectic performance last week and now last sat aswell, no crimbo bonus n I say Give um a hoot up arse stop being a puppet n live upto your words that your the man lancs1985

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