We didn't defend well enough, admits Blackburn Rovers boss

BLACKBURN Rovers boss Henning Berg admitted his side's defending was not good enough as they crashed 4-1 at home to Championship leaders Cardiff City tonight.

Josh King had cancelled out Mark Hudson's opener but former Rovers striker Craig Bellamy put Cardiff back in front before further goals from Joe Mason and Kim Bo-Kyung.

"We could have defended better," Berg said.

"In terms of shots on goal we had more but they were a bit more experienced and a bit more clever.

"They had a bit more strength and scored two gosls from set plays, one direct from a flick-on and one when we mad a mistake coming out from the back.

"Overall they were a bit more experienced than us and had better finishing."

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11:56pm Fri 7 Dec 12

Dukes says...

BERG AND VENKYS OUT

DISGRACE WE WANT A OUR REFUND BACK.
BERG AND VENKYS OUT DISGRACE WE WANT A OUR REFUND BACK. Dukes

12:00am Sat 8 Dec 12

real betis hotpot says...

Berg out
Hendry out
Bilaj Rao out
Venkatesh Rao out
Anuradai Desai Out
Venkys out
Shabby Thing out
SEM out
Kentaro out
Shaw out
Agnew out
Anderson out
Murphy out
Berg out Hendry out Bilaj Rao out Venkatesh Rao out Anuradai Desai Out Venkys out Shabby Thing out SEM out Kentaro out Shaw out Agnew out Anderson out Murphy out real betis hotpot

12:01am Sat 8 Dec 12

jackmetickler says...

fekk me hes a genius!
I think the point being HB is you are being paid to ensure that we do defend well enough .... all well and good telling us what we YOUR team is not doing...

Is it me!
fekk me hes a genius! I think the point being HB is you are being paid to ensure that we do defend well enough .... all well and good telling us what we YOUR team is not doing... Is it me! jackmetickler

12:03am Sat 8 Dec 12

dangerous dave says...

Berg you idiot - THEN WHAT THE HELL IS HENDRY DOING AS YOUR DEFENSIVE COACH - YOUR BECOMING ANOTHER KEAN!!!
Excuse after excuse - the club is becoming a bloody joke - but could be quite a serious joke - take off the visiting fans and may be only 11000 on the ground tonight a total waste of my money!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
OUT WITH SHAW AGNEW SINGH BLACK HENDRY VENKYS AND MAY BE BERG
Berg you idiot - THEN WHAT THE HELL IS HENDRY DOING AS YOUR DEFENSIVE COACH - YOUR BECOMING ANOTHER KEAN!!! Excuse after excuse - the club is becoming a bloody joke - but could be quite a serious joke - take off the visiting fans and may be only 11000 on the ground tonight a total waste of my money!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!! OUT WITH SHAW AGNEW SINGH BLACK HENDRY VENKYS AND MAY BE BERG dangerous dave

12:07am Sat 8 Dec 12

juanbbien says...

We haven't been defending well going on for three years,we all know that but nothing is done about it,oh I forgot we are paying Hendry a reported eight grand a week,nothing changes down there we just get worse and worse,with more excuses now coming out of Bergs mouth instead of Keans
We haven't been defending well going on for three years,we all know that but nothing is done about it,oh I forgot we are paying Hendry a reported eight grand a week,nothing changes down there we just get worse and worse,with more excuses now coming out of Bergs mouth instead of Keans juanbbien

12:08am Sat 8 Dec 12

nil bye mouth says...

Fantastic work agent Berg , agent Kean was a tough act to follow but you have exceeded all our expectations with the great unwashed from fleawood park.Be prepared for the inevitable booing and derogatory comments from T`rovers fans. Take no notice they are a toothless gutless bunch who think the club is theirs but everyman and his dog knows its the chicken plucking venky boys who call all the shots at bollywood park, Clueless classless club IN VENKYS WE TRUST
Fantastic work agent Berg , agent Kean was a tough act to follow but you have exceeded all our expectations with the great unwashed from fleawood park.Be prepared for the inevitable booing and derogatory comments from T`rovers fans. Take no notice they are a toothless gutless bunch who think the club is theirs but everyman and his dog knows its the chicken plucking venky boys who call all the shots at bollywood park, Clueless classless club IN VENKYS WE TRUST nil bye mouth

12:13am Sat 8 Dec 12

Arthur Labore says...

Berg/hendry/singh/ve
nkys out!! im so angry what has happened to BRFC
Berg/hendry/singh/ve nkys out!! im so angry what has happened to BRFC Arthur Labore

12:32am Sat 8 Dec 12

Ryanb74 says...

Ice creams all round for our boys, and we'll try our very best to defend better next week, yeah?

Taxi for Rhodes - where to guv? Anywhere but here...
Ice creams all round for our boys, and we'll try our very best to defend better next week, yeah? Taxi for Rhodes - where to guv? Anywhere but here... Ryanb74

12:37am Sat 8 Dec 12

clitheroe blue boy says...

Hendry reported to be on £8k a week as 'defensive' coach? That's a joke. I didn't want HB as manager, and mark my words, we will be looking for a new manager after crimbo. Shabby Minge is a joke aswell.

I hate to say this, but we are playing worse than we were under Kean, and believe me, I despised him.
Hendry reported to be on £8k a week as 'defensive' coach? That's a joke. I didn't want HB as manager, and mark my words, we will be looking for a new manager after crimbo. Shabby Minge is a joke aswell. I hate to say this, but we are playing worse than we were under Kean, and believe me, I despised him. clitheroe blue boy

12:51am Sat 8 Dec 12

Bangkok Rover says...

I've kind of got used to bad defending since Big Sam left, and whilst there were a couple of bad examples I'm equally worried about our ability to pass the ball through midfield. We lost the initiative all through the game with backwards passes from Lowe. It was 3-4 passes in midfield, a backward pass from Lowe and a long ball from defence quickly snapped up by a pack of Bluebirds. That's worrying because by now we would be hoping to see a more effective game plan emerge under the new management.
I've kind of got used to bad defending since Big Sam left, and whilst there were a couple of bad examples I'm equally worried about our ability to pass the ball through midfield. We lost the initiative all through the game with backwards passes from Lowe. It was 3-4 passes in midfield, a backward pass from Lowe and a long ball from defence quickly snapped up by a pack of Bluebirds. That's worrying because by now we would be hoping to see a more effective game plan emerge under the new management. Bangkok Rover

12:56am Sat 8 Dec 12

Blackburn Yoof says...

Henning Berg is quite hopeless. As are most of the players. The Owners are a disgrace. Shebby, Shaw and Agnew shouldn't be anywhere near a boardroom. Apart from that it's going really well! I went tonight but never again.
Henning Berg is quite hopeless. As are most of the players. The Owners are a disgrace. Shebby, Shaw and Agnew shouldn't be anywhere near a boardroom. Apart from that it's going really well! I went tonight but never again. Blackburn Yoof

1:39am Sat 8 Dec 12

penrithrover says...

Hendry "defensive coach" 8,000 pounds a week , sounds like Hendry is still robbing people.
Hendry "defensive coach" 8,000 pounds a week , sounds like Hendry is still robbing people. penrithrover

3:46am Sat 8 Dec 12

Stone Island: says...

You're learning fast HB. Maybe Borat found the right man after all!

Venky's OUT! Borat OUT! Hendry OUT! Berg OUT!

Why don't all you aforementioned PARASITES, just **** off, and leave us to pick up the pieces.
You're learning fast HB. Maybe Borat found the right man after all! Venky's OUT! Borat OUT! Hendry OUT! Berg OUT! Why don't all you aforementioned PARASITES, just **** off, and leave us to pick up the pieces. Stone Island:

4:43am Sat 8 Dec 12

Roverthere says...

Maybe it's because we got rid of all our defenders and replaced them with 3rd rate never or will be's!

A BIG clearout required in Jan, we need to start building for next season. Mid table finish, if we are lucky, this season!
Maybe it's because we got rid of all our defenders and replaced them with 3rd rate never or will be's! A BIG clearout required in Jan, we need to start building for next season. Mid table finish, if we are lucky, this season! Roverthere

5:01am Sat 8 Dec 12

Fonsultants says...

It does seem really odd after all the money that was splashed out on bringing in new players (especially Jordan Rhodes), that Venky's / Shebby would bring in Berg as the Rovers boss. It beggars belief that Berg was picked over the other illustrious names that were purportedly linked with the club, so it's no surprise that supporters still have reasons to believe that Venky's are in this business only for the marketing benefits it brings to their company, plus of course, financial reasons, hoping to make a quick buck off a beloved club.

At the time of writing this comments, the Rovers are 11 points off automatic promotion slots, 4 points off playoff positions, and only 1 point ahead of the Clarets - all this while having played an extra game.

I remember vaguely, a statement either by Kean / Shebby / Venky's somewhere at the start of the season, that failure to get back to the Premiership would be unthinkable. After all the new players that have been brought in, I certainly agree that anything less than promotion this season would I fear, do further harm to the great club that is Rovers.

Shebby seems to have faded out of the limelight for quite some time now. Perhaps it's time he looks back on his decision to hire Berg, and come out with Plan B's - and while he's at it, Plan C's and D's as well?
It does seem really odd after all the money that was splashed out on bringing in new players (especially Jordan Rhodes), that Venky's / Shebby would bring in Berg as the Rovers boss. It beggars belief that Berg was picked over the other illustrious names that were purportedly linked with the club, so it's no surprise that supporters still have reasons to believe that Venky's are in this business only for the marketing benefits it brings to their company, plus of course, financial reasons, hoping to make a quick buck off a beloved club. At the time of writing this comments, the Rovers are 11 points off automatic promotion slots, 4 points off playoff positions, and only 1 point ahead of the Clarets - all this while having played an extra game. I remember vaguely, a statement either by Kean / Shebby / Venky's somewhere at the start of the season, that failure to get back to the Premiership would be unthinkable. After all the new players that have been brought in, I certainly agree that anything less than promotion this season would I fear, do further harm to the great club that is Rovers. Shebby seems to have faded out of the limelight for quite some time now. Perhaps it's time he looks back on his decision to hire Berg, and come out with Plan B's - and while he's at it, Plan C's and D's as well? Fonsultants

5:42am Sat 8 Dec 12

baz58 says...

God help us if we where still in the prem!
God help us if we where still in the prem! baz58

7:07am Sat 8 Dec 12

Dan11 says...

If the defensive players are being coached effectively by Mr Hendry and Mr Berg and are still turning out performances like that then it is time to let them go and bring in players who can defend. We are paying the price of Keans transfer policy of selling defenders, and buying only midfielders and strikers. The quality is just not there.
If the defensive players are being coached effectively by Mr Hendry and Mr Berg and are still turning out performances like that then it is time to let them go and bring in players who can defend. We are paying the price of Keans transfer policy of selling defenders, and buying only midfielders and strikers. The quality is just not there. Dan11

7:12am Sat 8 Dec 12

Dan11 says...

In terms of promotion it would be far better to follow Keans earlier tactics of gung ho attack, as it results in more points than a more measured approach.The defence is simply not good enough and that is not just the coaching it is individuals concerned and we all know who they are.

Berg needs to re assess the tactics of the team until the Jan transfer window when we can get rid of some of the dead wood like Dann and stick Hanley where he belongs in the reserves. Bring in two new central defenders then and then begin to look at more measured tactics,when you can rely on your central pairing to be organised and defend competently.
In terms of promotion it would be far better to follow Keans earlier tactics of gung ho attack, as it results in more points than a more measured approach.The defence is simply not good enough and that is not just the coaching it is individuals concerned and we all know who they are. Berg needs to re assess the tactics of the team until the Jan transfer window when we can get rid of some of the dead wood like Dann and stick Hanley where he belongs in the reserves. Bring in two new central defenders then and then begin to look at more measured tactics,when you can rely on your central pairing to be organised and defend competently. Dan11

7:27am Sat 8 Dec 12

1952 rover says...

well this must be the worst appointment that they ever made. Shebby what on earth are you doing to our club. Get back to your tv work and take Berg with you NOW.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!
well this must be the worst appointment that they ever made. Shebby what on earth are you doing to our club. Get back to your tv work and take Berg with you NOW.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!! 1952 rover

7:33am Sat 8 Dec 12

penrithrover says...

Dan11 wrote:
If the defensive players are being coached effectively by Mr Hendry and Mr Berg and are still turning out performances like that then it is time to let them go and bring in players who can defend. We are paying the price of Keans transfer policy of selling defenders, and buying only midfielders and strikers. The quality is just not there.
Dan 11 /
You never considered that Hendry and Berg are simply SH*T at coaching FULL STOP !
[quote][p][bold]Dan11[/bold] wrote: If the defensive players are being coached effectively by Mr Hendry and Mr Berg and are still turning out performances like that then it is time to let them go and bring in players who can defend. We are paying the price of Keans transfer policy of selling defenders, and buying only midfielders and strikers. The quality is just not there.[/p][/quote]Dan 11 / You never considered that Hendry and Berg are simply SH*T at coaching FULL STOP ! penrithrover

7:33am Sat 8 Dec 12

edmy says...

Last night was absolute garbage. Any thoughts of good times ahead can certainly be put to one side. Berg has had long enough to evaluate the team and change it, but it just doesn't get any better. As for his statement we didn't defend well, we didn't last night or at any time since he took over. His answer to our defensive crisis, get a striker on loan, so in my opinion he his about as inept as the other clown. God help BRFC but i guess he would not want to work with the Venky's either.
Last night was absolute garbage. Any thoughts of good times ahead can certainly be put to one side. Berg has had long enough to evaluate the team and change it, but it just doesn't get any better. As for his statement we didn't defend well, we didn't last night or at any time since he took over. His answer to our defensive crisis, get a striker on loan, so in my opinion he his about as inept as the other clown. God help BRFC but i guess he would not want to work with the Venky's either. edmy

7:39am Sat 8 Dec 12

steralc says...

nil bye mouth wrote:
Fantastic work agent Berg , agent Kean was a tough act to follow but you have exceeded all our expectations with the great unwashed from fleawood park.Be prepared for the inevitable booing and derogatory comments from T`rovers fans. Take no notice they are a toothless gutless bunch who think the club is theirs but everyman and his dog knows its the chicken plucking venky boys who call all the shots at bollywood park, Clueless classless club IN VENKYS WE TRUST
Spot on fellow
[quote][p][bold]nil bye mouth[/bold] wrote: Fantastic work agent Berg , agent Kean was a tough act to follow but you have exceeded all our expectations with the great unwashed from fleawood park.Be prepared for the inevitable booing and derogatory comments from T`rovers fans. Take no notice they are a toothless gutless bunch who think the club is theirs but everyman and his dog knows its the chicken plucking venky boys who call all the shots at bollywood park, Clueless classless club IN VENKYS WE TRUST[/p][/quote]Spot on fellow steralc

7:43am Sat 8 Dec 12

steralc says...

nil bye mouth wrote:
Fantastic work agent Berg , agent Kean was a tough act to follow but you have exceeded all our expectations with the great unwashed from fleawood park.Be prepared for the inevitable booing and derogatory comments from T`rovers fans. Take no notice they are a toothless gutless bunch who think the club is theirs but everyman and his dog knows its the chicken plucking venky boys who call all the shots at bollywood park, Clueless classless club IN VENKYS WE TRUST
Spot on fellow
[quote][p][bold]nil bye mouth[/bold] wrote: Fantastic work agent Berg , agent Kean was a tough act to follow but you have exceeded all our expectations with the great unwashed from fleawood park.Be prepared for the inevitable booing and derogatory comments from T`rovers fans. Take no notice they are a toothless gutless bunch who think the club is theirs but everyman and his dog knows its the chicken plucking venky boys who call all the shots at bollywood park, Clueless classless club IN VENKYS WE TRUST[/p][/quote]Spot on fellow steralc

7:48am Sat 8 Dec 12

MikeD says...

well it didn't take long for you lot to come out of the woodwork again did it? Why not organise another protest? Officially the worst fans in football. If you think we have a divine right to win every game then you're in for a disappointing life. Berg can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear. We don't have a midfield and he can't fix it until January. The central defenders are mistake-prone and he can't fix it until January. And guess what - the other teams in this division are pretty good.
well it didn't take long for you lot to come out of the woodwork again did it? Why not organise another protest? Officially the worst fans in football. If you think we have a divine right to win every game then you're in for a disappointing life. Berg can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear. We don't have a midfield and he can't fix it until January. The central defenders are mistake-prone and he can't fix it until January. And guess what - the other teams in this division are pretty good. MikeD

7:49am Sat 8 Dec 12

Joey99 says...

The defence has been a problem for ages now, with subsequent managers doing nothing about it. We should have got a CB or two in in the loan window
The defence has been a problem for ages now, with subsequent managers doing nothing about it. We should have got a CB or two in in the loan window Joey99

8:15am Sat 8 Dec 12

OnePostThenTheOther says...

MikeD wrote:
well it didn't take long for you lot to come out of the woodwork again did it? Why not organise another protest? Officially the worst fans in football. If you think we have a divine right to win every game then you're in for a disappointing life. Berg can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear. We don't have a midfield and he can't fix it until January. The central defenders are mistake-prone and he can't fix it until January. And guess what - the other teams in this division are pretty good.
You are right from the perspective that by now, two years down the line, everybody should be used to the steaming pile of manure that Venkys have turned the club into. How odd that people should express their displeasure at a dismal 4-1 humiliation at home. It couldn't possibly be that Berg has selected the wrong personnel or formation, or that the coaching regime appears to consist of a jog round the pitches followed by crashing a few balls over the rugby posts.
[quote][p][bold]MikeD[/bold] wrote: well it didn't take long for you lot to come out of the woodwork again did it? Why not organise another protest? Officially the worst fans in football. If you think we have a divine right to win every game then you're in for a disappointing life. Berg can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear. We don't have a midfield and he can't fix it until January. The central defenders are mistake-prone and he can't fix it until January. And guess what - the other teams in this division are pretty good.[/p][/quote]You are right from the perspective that by now, two years down the line, everybody should be used to the steaming pile of manure that Venkys have turned the club into. How odd that people should express their displeasure at a dismal 4-1 humiliation at home. It couldn't possibly be that Berg has selected the wrong personnel or formation, or that the coaching regime appears to consist of a jog round the pitches followed by crashing a few balls over the rugby posts. OnePostThenTheOther

8:22am Sat 8 Dec 12

Harwoodstblue says...

MikeD wrote:
well it didn't take long for you lot to come out of the woodwork again did it? Why not organise another protest? Officially the worst fans in football. If you think we have a divine right to win every game then you're in for a disappointing life. Berg can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear. We don't have a midfield and he can't fix it until January. The central defenders are mistake-prone and he can't fix it until January. And guess what - the other teams in this division are pretty good.
He won't be able to fix anything in January Mike.
Do you honestly believe that Venkys will pull out millions to start buying quality players when they have just spent the last two years cashing in on them ?
[quote][p][bold]MikeD[/bold] wrote: well it didn't take long for you lot to come out of the woodwork again did it? Why not organise another protest? Officially the worst fans in football. If you think we have a divine right to win every game then you're in for a disappointing life. Berg can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear. We don't have a midfield and he can't fix it until January. The central defenders are mistake-prone and he can't fix it until January. And guess what - the other teams in this division are pretty good.[/p][/quote]He won't be able to fix anything in January Mike. Do you honestly believe that Venkys will pull out millions to start buying quality players when they have just spent the last two years cashing in on them ? Harwoodstblue

8:32am Sat 8 Dec 12

Harwoodstblue says...

Joey99 wrote:
The defence has been a problem for ages now, with subsequent managers doing nothing about it. We should have got a CB or two in in the loan window
Yes we should but Venkys won't pay the wages.
Didn't Black want to bring in a player from Stoke but Venkys wouldn't sanction it ?
[quote][p][bold]Joey99[/bold] wrote: The defence has been a problem for ages now, with subsequent managers doing nothing about it. We should have got a CB or two in in the loan window[/p][/quote]Yes we should but Venkys won't pay the wages. Didn't Black want to bring in a player from Stoke but Venkys wouldn't sanction it ? Harwoodstblue

8:36am Sat 8 Dec 12

MatthewCA says...

Better Clear all the JUNG players and start fresh with some quality 15 players and with youth support.
Better Clear all the JUNG players and start fresh with some quality 15 players and with youth support. MatthewCA

8:37am Sat 8 Dec 12

dorsetclaret says...

baz58 says...
5:42am Sat 8 Dec 12

God help us if we where still in the prem!
DOOMED DOOMED LMFAO
your for league 1
nay mind fleetwood not far
baz58 says... 5:42am Sat 8 Dec 12 God help us if we where still in the prem! DOOMED DOOMED LMFAO your for league 1 nay mind fleetwood not far dorsetclaret

8:42am Sat 8 Dec 12

Ray Gunn says...

MikeD wrote:
well it didn't take long for you lot to come out of the woodwork again did it? Why not organise another protest? Officially the worst fans in football. If you think we have a divine right to win every game then you're in for a disappointing life. Berg can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear. We don't have a midfield and he can't fix it until January. The central defenders are mistake-prone and he can't fix it until January. And guess what - the other teams in this division are pretty good.
well mike....i bet you were one of those give kean a chance mob...and a divine right to win every game?....one or two would do mate....or even make the other team sweat a little.....and the only thing that will be happening in january wil be the start of a new year....but all said and done...i dont blame Burg...the people who i hold responsible are the CHICKEN FARMERS and a prat call KEAN...the VENKYS should NOT of allowed KEAN to stay in charge for so long let alone take us down.....
[quote][p][bold]MikeD[/bold] wrote: well it didn't take long for you lot to come out of the woodwork again did it? Why not organise another protest? Officially the worst fans in football. If you think we have a divine right to win every game then you're in for a disappointing life. Berg can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear. We don't have a midfield and he can't fix it until January. The central defenders are mistake-prone and he can't fix it until January. And guess what - the other teams in this division are pretty good.[/p][/quote]well mike....i bet you were one of those give kean a chance mob...and a divine right to win every game?....one or two would do mate....or even make the other team sweat a little.....and the only thing that will be happening in january wil be the start of a new year....but all said and done...i dont blame Burg...the people who i hold responsible are the CHICKEN FARMERS and a prat call KEAN...the VENKYS should NOT of allowed KEAN to stay in charge for so long let alone take us down..... Ray Gunn

8:53am Sat 8 Dec 12

A Darener says...

The ghost of Kean is still haunting us! This team is mainly his players, only King is Bergs and he was our best player. CKR also played well but he was on for only the second half.
The ghost of Kean is still haunting us! This team is mainly his players, only King is Bergs and he was our best player. CKR also played well but he was on for only the second half. A Darener

8:53am Sat 8 Dec 12

A Darener says...

The ghost of Kean is still haunting us! This team is mainly his players, only King is Bergs and he was our best player. CKR also played well but he was on for only the second half.
The ghost of Kean is still haunting us! This team is mainly his players, only King is Bergs and he was our best player. CKR also played well but he was on for only the second half. A Darener

8:53am Sat 8 Dec 12

A Darener says...

The ghost of Kean is still haunting us! This team is mainly his players, only King is Bergs and he was our best player. CKR also played well but he was on for only the second half.
The ghost of Kean is still haunting us! This team is mainly his players, only King is Bergs and he was our best player. CKR also played well but he was on for only the second half. A Darener

8:58am Sat 8 Dec 12

LanghoDAN says...

The club I once followed up to this shower taking over are on the verge off going down again, we're on earth are the owners and mr shebby lover lover, we have not heard nothing from her over in India or the brothers once, since there bum boy departed in the dodgy sunset, it funny as mr shing was on every sporting channel when hiring and looking for a new manager we couldn't get enought if him, but now dose he even Exist anymore, if nothing is done to this club it's by by Blackburn rovers forever, the owners do they give a dam about what really happens to us as they have made enought money to **** off,I'm afraid the supporters are being fooled by watching this crap club, I noticed on sky sports news scarves and banners being thrown onto the pitch again last night, but there's the ones who have committed to watching and contributing to the ruining of the club
Out with venkys
Berg
Hendry
And the supporters
The club I once followed up to this shower taking over are on the verge off going down again, we're on earth are the owners and mr shebby lover lover, we have not heard nothing from her over in India or the brothers once, since there bum boy departed in the dodgy sunset, it funny as mr shing was on every sporting channel when hiring and looking for a new manager we couldn't get enought if him, but now dose he even Exist anymore, if nothing is done to this club it's by by Blackburn rovers forever, the owners do they give a dam about what really happens to us as they have made enought money to **** off,I'm afraid the supporters are being fooled by watching this crap club, I noticed on sky sports news scarves and banners being thrown onto the pitch again last night, but there's the ones who have committed to watching and contributing to the ruining of the club Out with venkys Berg Hendry And the supporters LanghoDAN

8:59am Sat 8 Dec 12

Harwoodstblue says...

dorsetclaret wrote:
baz58 says...
5:42am Sat 8 Dec 12

God help us if we where still in the prem!
DOOMED DOOMED LMFAO
your for league 1
nay mind fleetwood not far
Your opinions mean nothing. go back to bed
[quote][p][bold]dorsetclaret[/bold] wrote: baz58 says... 5:42am Sat 8 Dec 12 God help us if we where still in the prem! DOOMED DOOMED LMFAO your for league 1 nay mind fleetwood not far[/p][/quote]Your opinions mean nothing. go back to bed Harwoodstblue

9:04am Sat 8 Dec 12

Captain Dreckley says...

As well as a totally incompetent defence and an absent centre midfield what also was glaring last night were Bergs tactics. I hate to say it but they were Kean like. We were set up wrong at the start and had no forward momentum. Kaz gave us that and we looked a different team. Then again sloppy in defence and we go 2-1 down. Rather than hold his nerve Berg focuses the midfield on attack with Nunes who didn't look fit and the dodgy defence gets no protection at all then its 4-1 and no way back. I fear that in Berg we have swapped like for like with Kean. Shebby has made a major mistake in selecting Berg as manager, why are we not surprised. Bring back Hughes with Ryan Nelsen as player coach. Singh told Berg his job was to get us out of the championship but not division 1. Still Venkys promised champions league and we got championship.
As well as a totally incompetent defence and an absent centre midfield what also was glaring last night were Bergs tactics. I hate to say it but they were Kean like. We were set up wrong at the start and had no forward momentum. Kaz gave us that and we looked a different team. Then again sloppy in defence and we go 2-1 down. Rather than hold his nerve Berg focuses the midfield on attack with Nunes who didn't look fit and the dodgy defence gets no protection at all then its 4-1 and no way back. I fear that in Berg we have swapped like for like with Kean. Shebby has made a major mistake in selecting Berg as manager, why are we not surprised. Bring back Hughes with Ryan Nelsen as player coach. Singh told Berg his job was to get us out of the championship but not division 1. Still Venkys promised champions league and we got championship. Captain Dreckley

9:06am Sat 8 Dec 12

OnePostThenTheOther says...

dorsetclaret wrote:
baz58 says...
5:42am Sat 8 Dec 12

God help us if we where still in the prem!
DOOMED DOOMED LMFAO
your for league 1
nay mind fleetwood not far
You stil couldn't beat our shower of sh8 on your own patch. How is Bumley's promotion push going? Or is just an obsession with your superiors that brings you on here?
[quote][p][bold]dorsetclaret[/bold] wrote: baz58 says... 5:42am Sat 8 Dec 12 God help us if we where still in the prem! DOOMED DOOMED LMFAO your for league 1 nay mind fleetwood not far[/p][/quote]You stil couldn't beat our shower of sh8 on your own patch. How is Bumley's promotion push going? Or is just an obsession with your superiors that brings you on here? OnePostThenTheOther

9:09am Sat 8 Dec 12

Marconi says...

After last nights game, it should be quite obviouse to Rovers fans that an automatic return to the premiership with the squad that HB as at his disposal at this point in time, is not going to happen. Until the January window when he can chase the players he wants ( and hope he gets,with the backing of Venskys), it looks like we are not going to be getting many more points. Big changes have to be made,or we will finish lower than the other two relegated clubs, Wolves and Bolton, who are now 17 and18.
After last nights game, it should be quite obviouse to Rovers fans that an automatic return to the premiership with the squad that HB as at his disposal at this point in time, is not going to happen. Until the January window when he can chase the players he wants ( and hope he gets,with the backing of Venskys), it looks like we are not going to be getting many more points. Big changes have to be made,or we will finish lower than the other two relegated clubs, Wolves and Bolton, who are now 17 and18. Marconi

9:09am Sat 8 Dec 12

Harwoodstblue says...

LanghoDAN wrote:
The club I once followed up to this shower taking over are on the verge off going down again, we're on earth are the owners and mr shebby lover lover, we have not heard nothing from her over in India or the brothers once, since there bum boy departed in the dodgy sunset, it funny as mr shing was on every sporting channel when hiring and looking for a new manager we couldn't get enought if him, but now dose he even Exist anymore, if nothing is done to this club it's by by Blackburn rovers forever, the owners do they give a dam about what really happens to us as they have made enought money to **** off,I'm afraid the supporters are being fooled by watching this crap club, I noticed on sky sports news scarves and banners being thrown onto the pitch again last night, but there's the ones who have committed to watching and contributing to the ruining of the club
Out with venkys
Berg
Hendry
And the supporters
I agree when you say " the supporters are being fooled "
They are 100% but some have not caught on yet !!!
It seems like the stay aways have.
[quote][p][bold]LanghoDAN[/bold] wrote: The club I once followed up to this shower taking over are on the verge off going down again, we're on earth are the owners and mr shebby lover lover, we have not heard nothing from her over in India or the brothers once, since there bum boy departed in the dodgy sunset, it funny as mr shing was on every sporting channel when hiring and looking for a new manager we couldn't get enought if him, but now dose he even Exist anymore, if nothing is done to this club it's by by Blackburn rovers forever, the owners do they give a dam about what really happens to us as they have made enought money to **** off,I'm afraid the supporters are being fooled by watching this crap club, I noticed on sky sports news scarves and banners being thrown onto the pitch again last night, but there's the ones who have committed to watching and contributing to the ruining of the club Out with venkys Berg Hendry And the supporters[/p][/quote]I agree when you say " the supporters are being fooled " They are 100% but some have not caught on yet !!! It seems like the stay aways have. Harwoodstblue

9:24am Sat 8 Dec 12

bburnrover says...

We cannot blame berg for this team.Both CBs ae rubbish and panic all the time you can see it on their faces they cannot cope.We have no attacking threat on the flanks only Kazim can link up the defense and attack formica is poor and has no physical presence.Kean and Shebby shuld have seen the problems after all they only had to read these comments during the close season as the contributors on here were all crying out for new defeners and a rght sided winger.
We cannot blame berg for this team.Both CBs ae rubbish and panic all the time you can see it on their faces they cannot cope.We have no attacking threat on the flanks only Kazim can link up the defense and attack formica is poor and has no physical presence.Kean and Shebby shuld have seen the problems after all they only had to read these comments during the close season as the contributors on here were all crying out for new defeners and a rght sided winger. bburnrover

9:30am Sat 8 Dec 12

OnePostThenTheOther says...

bburnrover wrote:
We cannot blame berg for this team.Both CBs ae rubbish and panic all the time you can see it on their faces they cannot cope.We have no attacking threat on the flanks only Kazim can link up the defense and attack formica is poor and has no physical presence.Kean and Shebby shuld have seen the problems after all they only had to read these comments during the close season as the contributors on here were all crying out for new defeners and a rght sided winger.
Then play Givet?
[quote][p][bold]bburnrover[/bold] wrote: We cannot blame berg for this team.Both CBs ae rubbish and panic all the time you can see it on their faces they cannot cope.We have no attacking threat on the flanks only Kazim can link up the defense and attack formica is poor and has no physical presence.Kean and Shebby shuld have seen the problems after all they only had to read these comments during the close season as the contributors on here were all crying out for new defeners and a rght sided winger.[/p][/quote]Then play Givet? OnePostThenTheOther

9:31am Sat 8 Dec 12

merlinrabbit says...

nil bye mouth wrote:
Fantastic work agent Berg , agent Kean was a tough act to follow but you have exceeded all our expectations with the great unwashed from fleawood park.Be prepared for the inevitable booing and derogatory comments from T`rovers fans. Take no notice they are a toothless gutless bunch who think the club is theirs but everyman and his dog knows its the chicken plucking venky boys who call all the shots at bollywood park, Clueless classless club IN VENKYS WE TRUST
Do you. Copy and paste everyday or are you simply short in the language department? Its practically the same post each day. Meaningless c##p. Who cares what you think. You are irrelevant.
[quote][p][bold]nil bye mouth[/bold] wrote: Fantastic work agent Berg , agent Kean was a tough act to follow but you have exceeded all our expectations with the great unwashed from fleawood park.Be prepared for the inevitable booing and derogatory comments from T`rovers fans. Take no notice they are a toothless gutless bunch who think the club is theirs but everyman and his dog knows its the chicken plucking venky boys who call all the shots at bollywood park, Clueless classless club IN VENKYS WE TRUST[/p][/quote]Do you. Copy and paste everyday or are you simply short in the language department? Its practically the same post each day. Meaningless c##p. Who cares what you think. You are irrelevant. merlinrabbit

9:36am Sat 8 Dec 12

Brfc24138931 says...

Yes we do blame humming bird because like everybody involved they have destroyed the club and I'd like to bet we will be nearer the bottom. Promotion your having a laugh like everybody is laughing at us. Please please please don't go to home games and force the Indisn DUCKERS out. We are DOOMED. Premier league will never ever be in Blackburn again.
Yes we do blame humming bird because like everybody involved they have destroyed the club and I'd like to bet we will be nearer the bottom. Promotion your having a laugh like everybody is laughing at us. Please please please don't go to home games and force the Indisn DUCKERS out. We are DOOMED. Premier league will never ever be in Blackburn again. Brfc24138931

9:41am Sat 8 Dec 12

Riverside 7 says...

MikeD wrote:
well it didn't take long for you lot to come out of the woodwork again did it? Why not organise another protest? Officially the worst fans in football. If you think we have a divine right to win every game then you're in for a disappointing life. Berg can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear. We don't have a midfield and he can't fix it until January. The central defenders are mistake-prone and he can't fix it until January. And guess what - the other teams in this division are pretty good.
I am a fan who long campaigned for Kean's dismissal and for him to be replaced by an experienced manager.
By experienced, I meant that someone who had been succesful in the Championship and knew what was needed to gain promotion e.g a Holloway, McCarthy, Warnock etc.

Instead Shebby and the Board seemed obsessed by appointing an ex-player as manager and tried to enlist Sherwood and McKinlay - who both had no managerial experience whatsover.

After the fans made their feelings known, they instead opted for Berg claiming that he had 7 years managerial experience.
That may be true, but he had never managed in England.
Did anyone on the Board examine his track record in Norway?
Basically as we all know he was the CHEAP OPTION.

Berg is quoted as saying that we did not defend well enough against Cardiff, when our performances in the past 3 home games has been very, very poor indeed and we have been outplayed by Millwall, Bolton & Cardiff.

Even the caretaker manager Eric Black made a better use of the squad at his disposal than Berg.
Cut our losses now and bring in Mark Hughes.
[quote][p][bold]MikeD[/bold] wrote: well it didn't take long for you lot to come out of the woodwork again did it? Why not organise another protest? Officially the worst fans in football. If you think we have a divine right to win every game then you're in for a disappointing life. Berg can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear. We don't have a midfield and he can't fix it until January. The central defenders are mistake-prone and he can't fix it until January. And guess what - the other teams in this division are pretty good.[/p][/quote]I am a fan who long campaigned for Kean's dismissal and for him to be replaced by an experienced manager. By experienced, I meant that someone who had been succesful in the Championship and knew what was needed to gain promotion e.g a Holloway, McCarthy, Warnock etc. Instead Shebby and the Board seemed obsessed by appointing an ex-player as manager and tried to enlist Sherwood and McKinlay - who both had no managerial experience whatsover. After the fans made their feelings known, they instead opted for Berg claiming that he had 7 years managerial experience. That may be true, but he had never managed in England. Did anyone on the Board examine his track record in Norway? Basically as we all know he was the CHEAP OPTION. Berg is quoted as saying that we did not defend well enough against Cardiff, when our performances in the past 3 home games has been very, very poor indeed and we have been outplayed by Millwall, Bolton & Cardiff. Even the caretaker manager Eric Black made a better use of the squad at his disposal than Berg. Cut our losses now and bring in Mark Hughes. Riverside 7

9:41am Sat 8 Dec 12

ghost of sceptic says...

jackmetickler wrote:
fekk me hes a genius! I think the point being HB is you are being paid to ensure that we do defend well enough .... all well and good telling us what we YOUR team is not doing... Is it me!
Yes but he can only work with what he has inherited.We have no top draw defenders anymore. you cannot polish a turd!
[quote][p][bold]jackmetickler[/bold] wrote: fekk me hes a genius! I think the point being HB is you are being paid to ensure that we do defend well enough .... all well and good telling us what we YOUR team is not doing... Is it me![/p][/quote]Yes but he can only work with what he has inherited.We have no top draw defenders anymore. you cannot polish a turd! ghost of sceptic

9:46am Sat 8 Dec 12

French Rover says...

Bangkok Rover wrote:
I've kind of got used to bad defending since Big Sam left, and whilst there were a couple of bad examples I'm equally worried about our ability to pass the ball through midfield. We lost the initiative all through the game with backwards passes from Lowe. It was 3-4 passes in midfield, a backward pass from Lowe and a long ball from defence quickly snapped up by a pack of Bluebirds. That's worrying because by now we would be hoping to see a more effective game plan emerge under the new management.
Totally agree, and that was all down to not having a decent central midfielder on the pitch....either Dunny or Murphy would have changed things last night. The number of punts up field was disgraceful. We have some excellent footballers like KIng and Rhodes and they got nothing hardly to feet all night. Only when CKR came on did the long balls have any return at all but even then it was a mostly futile tactic. Berg knows who he he needs in the team and he will get them come the Jan window. Changes are ahead.
[quote][p][bold]Bangkok Rover[/bold] wrote: I've kind of got used to bad defending since Big Sam left, and whilst there were a couple of bad examples I'm equally worried about our ability to pass the ball through midfield. We lost the initiative all through the game with backwards passes from Lowe. It was 3-4 passes in midfield, a backward pass from Lowe and a long ball from defence quickly snapped up by a pack of Bluebirds. That's worrying because by now we would be hoping to see a more effective game plan emerge under the new management.[/p][/quote]Totally agree, and that was all down to not having a decent central midfielder on the pitch....either Dunny or Murphy would have changed things last night. The number of punts up field was disgraceful. We have some excellent footballers like KIng and Rhodes and they got nothing hardly to feet all night. Only when CKR came on did the long balls have any return at all but even then it was a mostly futile tactic. Berg knows who he he needs in the team and he will get them come the Jan window. Changes are ahead. French Rover

9:48am Sat 8 Dec 12

penrithrover says...

Captain Dreckley wrote:
As well as a totally incompetent defence and an absent centre midfield what also was glaring last night were Bergs tactics. I hate to say it but they were Kean like. We were set up wrong at the start and had no forward momentum. Kaz gave us that and we looked a different team. Then again sloppy in defence and we go 2-1 down. Rather than hold his nerve Berg focuses the midfield on attack with Nunes who didn't look fit and the dodgy defence gets no protection at all then its 4-1 and no way back. I fear that in Berg we have swapped like for like with Kean. Shebby has made a major mistake in selecting Berg as manager, why are we not surprised. Bring back Hughes with Ryan Nelsen as player coach. Singh told Berg his job was to get us out of the championship but not division 1. Still Venkys promised champions league and we got championship.
Completely agree, Hughes with Nelsen player.coach ge rid of Berg , some comments are all about , Berg never brought these players in, true bur Berg seen and knew all these players when he applied for the managers job, Berg said he would get us promoted first up ,it is well documented that by Berg stating we would bounce straight back up ,SILENT SINGH RECOMMENDED BERG FOR THE JOB ,so all the excuses about the team we have are not Bergs players are all crap, he took the job with these players,and made promises with these players.
Get Hendry Steve Keans drink driver chum and Black out ,both publicly supported Kean and lied about his support to all the Rovers fans, the very presence of the two of them at Ewood is a negative to everyone ,players and fans alike,get them out and this black cloud will above Ewood will drift away
[quote][p][bold]Captain Dreckley[/bold] wrote: As well as a totally incompetent defence and an absent centre midfield what also was glaring last night were Bergs tactics. I hate to say it but they were Kean like. We were set up wrong at the start and had no forward momentum. Kaz gave us that and we looked a different team. Then again sloppy in defence and we go 2-1 down. Rather than hold his nerve Berg focuses the midfield on attack with Nunes who didn't look fit and the dodgy defence gets no protection at all then its 4-1 and no way back. I fear that in Berg we have swapped like for like with Kean. Shebby has made a major mistake in selecting Berg as manager, why are we not surprised. Bring back Hughes with Ryan Nelsen as player coach. Singh told Berg his job was to get us out of the championship but not division 1. Still Venkys promised champions league and we got championship.[/p][/quote]Completely agree, Hughes with Nelsen player.coach ge rid of Berg , some comments are all about , Berg never brought these players in, true bur Berg seen and knew all these players when he applied for the managers job, Berg said he would get us promoted first up ,it is well documented that by Berg stating we would bounce straight back up ,SILENT SINGH RECOMMENDED BERG FOR THE JOB ,so all the excuses about the team we have are not Bergs players are all crap, he took the job with these players,and made promises with these players. Get Hendry Steve Keans drink driver chum and Black out ,both publicly supported Kean and lied about his support to all the Rovers fans, the very presence of the two of them at Ewood is a negative to everyone ,players and fans alike,get them out and this black cloud will above Ewood will drift away penrithrover

10:13am Sat 8 Dec 12

dg666 says...

We don't need a global advisor we need somebody that understands the requirements of the rough and tumble of life in English football. HB has made no impact since coming in and even the worst managers have a short term impact. If I was advising I would simply say to save our season and the first team go and get MARK HUGHES now!!!!
We don't need a global advisor we need somebody that understands the requirements of the rough and tumble of life in English football. HB has made no impact since coming in and even the worst managers have a short term impact. If I was advising I would simply say to save our season and the first team go and get MARK HUGHES now!!!! dg666

10:41am Sat 8 Dec 12

OnePostThenTheOther says...

Marconi wrote:
After last nights game, it should be quite obviouse to Rovers fans that an automatic return to the premiership with the squad that HB as at his disposal at this point in time, is not going to happen. Until the January window when he can chase the players he wants ( and hope he gets,with the backing of Venskys), it looks like we are not going to be getting many more points. Big changes have to be made,or we will finish lower than the other two relegated clubs, Wolves and Bolton, who are now 17 and18.
Both of whom beat us at Ewood. If we don't sort central defence and defensive midfield out in January then we will most likely be fighting to stay in the division rather than to climb out of it. Did any of those players out there last night look like they believed they could secure promotion?
[quote][p][bold]Marconi[/bold] wrote: After last nights game, it should be quite obviouse to Rovers fans that an automatic return to the premiership with the squad that HB as at his disposal at this point in time, is not going to happen. Until the January window when he can chase the players he wants ( and hope he gets,with the backing of Venskys), it looks like we are not going to be getting many more points. Big changes have to be made,or we will finish lower than the other two relegated clubs, Wolves and Bolton, who are now 17 and18.[/p][/quote]Both of whom beat us at Ewood. If we don't sort central defence and defensive midfield out in January then we will most likely be fighting to stay in the division rather than to climb out of it. Did any of those players out there last night look like they believed they could secure promotion? OnePostThenTheOther

10:50am Sat 8 Dec 12

Long time Rover says...

Obviously some fair points being made but unrealistic expectations abound. HB inherited an ill balanced squad made up of average defenders, players unsuited to the English game and a midfield lacking pace. He also walked into a club with thousands of disgruntled supporters, a management trying to regroup and a back room staff not of his choosing. From that lot we expect promotion? Henning Berg may or may not prove to be a good manager but it surely isnt fair to judge him yet?
Next season will be his test and if he can sort out a quality young midfielder and keep his strikers then maybe we will have something good to talk about, unless we have all forgotten how to do that at Ewood!
Obviously some fair points being made but unrealistic expectations abound. HB inherited an ill balanced squad made up of average defenders, players unsuited to the English game and a midfield lacking pace. He also walked into a club with thousands of disgruntled supporters, a management trying to regroup and a back room staff not of his choosing. From that lot we expect promotion? Henning Berg may or may not prove to be a good manager but it surely isnt fair to judge him yet? Next season will be his test and if he can sort out a quality young midfielder and keep his strikers then maybe we will have something good to talk about, unless we have all forgotten how to do that at Ewood! Long time Rover

10:57am Sat 8 Dec 12

Road Runner Road Runner says...

What an absolute travesty this debacle is turning into.

An utter disgrace from top to bottom.

Supporting our club as become as thrilling as pulling teeth.

How those players, staff(particularly Hendry) can look at themselves in the mirror and feel any satisfaction is beyond me ?

Disgusting. Pathetic. Amateurish at best.

Arte et labore
What an absolute travesty this debacle is turning into. An utter disgrace from top to bottom. Supporting our club as become as thrilling as pulling teeth. How those players, staff(particularly Hendry) can look at themselves in the mirror and feel any satisfaction is beyond me ? Disgusting. Pathetic. Amateurish at best. Arte et labore Road Runner Road Runner

11:00am Sat 8 Dec 12

leitchy says...

Bring bak Mark Hughes!!!
Bring bak Mark Hughes!!! leitchy

11:02am Sat 8 Dec 12

samblue says...

There's all this talk about how bad the two central defenders are, but surely defence starts at the front and, likewise, attack starts at the back.
The main problems as far as I can see are that we haven't got anyone in midfield who can actually win tackles. For such a big guy, Etuhu is hopeless at tackling, while Murphy is just too slow by half. What we need is another Savage or Flitty to actually win the ball, but where the hell do we find them?
We then need someone who can pass the ball to one of our players, preferably in a forward direction. At this stage I would be tempted to put Givet in midfield to win the ball and Vucevic as the playmaker - after all that's where he plays for his country.
We also need better service from the wings, otherwise it would have been a waste of money buying Rhodes. Personally I would be tempted to see if Duff was available in January. At least he could beat a man and get the ball across.
And while talking about signings, whatever's happened to those three other Portuguese players Kean signed, including a 'top midfielder' and a 'top centre back'.
Berg needs time to bring in some decent players and get rid of a lot of deadwood - but unfortunately time isn't something we've got plenty of
There's all this talk about how bad the two central defenders are, but surely defence starts at the front and, likewise, attack starts at the back. The main problems as far as I can see are that we haven't got anyone in midfield who can actually win tackles. For such a big guy, Etuhu is hopeless at tackling, while Murphy is just too slow by half. What we need is another Savage or Flitty to actually win the ball, but where the hell do we find them? We then need someone who can pass the ball to one of our players, preferably in a forward direction. At this stage I would be tempted to put Givet in midfield to win the ball and Vucevic as the playmaker - after all that's where he plays for his country. We also need better service from the wings, otherwise it would have been a waste of money buying Rhodes. Personally I would be tempted to see if Duff was available in January. At least he could beat a man and get the ball across. And while talking about signings, whatever's happened to those three other Portuguese players Kean signed, including a 'top midfielder' and a 'top centre back'. Berg needs time to bring in some decent players and get rid of a lot of deadwood - but unfortunately time isn't something we've got plenty of samblue

11:07am Sat 8 Dec 12

1952 rover says...

MikeD wrote:
well it didn't take long for you lot to come out of the woodwork again did it? Why not organise another protest? Officially the worst fans in football. If you think we have a divine right to win every game then you're in for a disappointing life. Berg can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear. We don't have a midfield and he can't fix it until January. The central defenders are mistake-prone and he can't fix it until January. And guess what - the other teams in this division are pretty good.
for god'd sake SK Was a pratt but his record this season was better than Kean mark 2
[quote][p][bold]MikeD[/bold] wrote: well it didn't take long for you lot to come out of the woodwork again did it? Why not organise another protest? Officially the worst fans in football. If you think we have a divine right to win every game then you're in for a disappointing life. Berg can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear. We don't have a midfield and he can't fix it until January. The central defenders are mistake-prone and he can't fix it until January. And guess what - the other teams in this division are pretty good.[/p][/quote]for god'd sake SK Was a pratt but his record this season was better than Kean mark 2 1952 rover

11:10am Sat 8 Dec 12

1952 rover says...

Shebby and Co must go NOW Before it is to late. That is it not going to Ewood anymore after over 50 years.
Shebby and Co must go NOW Before it is to late. That is it not going to Ewood anymore after over 50 years. 1952 rover

11:18am Sat 8 Dec 12

Road Runner Road Runner says...

Berg as walked into a situation that even he could not have foreseen.

The rot is deeper than expected, and unless he his given funds along with the right to oust the backroom staff he inherited then I cannot see any room for improvement ? A clean sweep by Berg is an absolute must or he his going to find himself down the road leaving BRFC in the hands of the nutters in Pune, and looking at the record to date doesn't appear to have any silver lining on the horizon ?

I refuse to turn on Berg, but I hope he will soon make a stand and give both barrels to those who can make the difference ?

Let us hope we are not the donkeys roaming around Blackpool's front next Saturday ?

Arte et labore
Berg as walked into a situation that even he could not have foreseen. The rot is deeper than expected, and unless he his given funds along with the right to oust the backroom staff he inherited then I cannot see any room for improvement ? A clean sweep by Berg is an absolute must or he his going to find himself down the road leaving BRFC in the hands of the nutters in Pune, and looking at the record to date doesn't appear to have any silver lining on the horizon ? I refuse to turn on Berg, but I hope he will soon make a stand and give both barrels to those who can make the difference ? Let us hope we are not the donkeys roaming around Blackpool's front next Saturday ? Arte et labore Road Runner Road Runner

11:21am Sat 8 Dec 12

Nuttall Street says...

Riverside 7 wrote:
MikeD wrote:
well it didn't take long for you lot to come out of the woodwork again did it? Why not organise another protest? Officially the worst fans in football. If you think we have a divine right to win every game then you're in for a disappointing life. Berg can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear. We don't have a midfield and he can't fix it until January. The central defenders are mistake-prone and he can't fix it until January. And guess what - the other teams in this division are pretty good.
I am a fan who long campaigned for Kean's dismissal and for him to be replaced by an experienced manager.
By experienced, I meant that someone who had been succesful in the Championship and knew what was needed to gain promotion e.g a Holloway, McCarthy, Warnock etc.

Instead Shebby and the Board seemed obsessed by appointing an ex-player as manager and tried to enlist Sherwood and McKinlay - who both had no managerial experience whatsover.

After the fans made their feelings known, they instead opted for Berg claiming that he had 7 years managerial experience.
That may be true, but he had never managed in England.
Did anyone on the Board examine his track record in Norway?
Basically as we all know he was the CHEAP OPTION.

Berg is quoted as saying that we did not defend well enough against Cardiff, when our performances in the past 3 home games has been very, very poor indeed and we have been outplayed by Millwall, Bolton & Cardiff.

Even the caretaker manager Eric Black made a better use of the squad at his disposal than Berg.
Cut our losses now and bring in Mark Hughes.
Riversider, as usual a very good, common sense appraisal of the situation. I couldn't agree more. Venkys and the global idiot Shabby have done what most people would have thought impossible. They have replaced the hopelessly inadequate Kean with an even worse manager. There have been numerous posts on here from fans clutching at straws to the effect that Berg needs more time and that he cannot be judged until after January when he can bring in his own players. However, they fail to address the question of what to expect from Berg in the meantime. It is completely reasonable to expect that Berg would make at least some improvements that would become apparent after two months. In reality Rovers have gone backwards. As for the January transfer window where do the optimists think these transformational players are going to miraculously come from? There are only a few good buys and there are many better and more attractive clubs eager to snap them up. No, the reality is that the squads now exists is substantially what Berg will have to work with. It is becoming clear that he is unable to do that and Rovers steep decline continues unabated. I hate to read on here fans speculating about a return to the promotion race. Please stop. That is nowhere near being a possibility. Rovers are now in a race to stay out of the bottom six not get into the top six.
[quote][p][bold]Riverside 7[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MikeD[/bold] wrote: well it didn't take long for you lot to come out of the woodwork again did it? Why not organise another protest? Officially the worst fans in football. If you think we have a divine right to win every game then you're in for a disappointing life. Berg can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear. We don't have a midfield and he can't fix it until January. The central defenders are mistake-prone and he can't fix it until January. And guess what - the other teams in this division are pretty good.[/p][/quote]I am a fan who long campaigned for Kean's dismissal and for him to be replaced by an experienced manager. By experienced, I meant that someone who had been succesful in the Championship and knew what was needed to gain promotion e.g a Holloway, McCarthy, Warnock etc. Instead Shebby and the Board seemed obsessed by appointing an ex-player as manager and tried to enlist Sherwood and McKinlay - who both had no managerial experience whatsover. After the fans made their feelings known, they instead opted for Berg claiming that he had 7 years managerial experience. That may be true, but he had never managed in England. Did anyone on the Board examine his track record in Norway? Basically as we all know he was the CHEAP OPTION. Berg is quoted as saying that we did not defend well enough against Cardiff, when our performances in the past 3 home games has been very, very poor indeed and we have been outplayed by Millwall, Bolton & Cardiff. Even the caretaker manager Eric Black made a better use of the squad at his disposal than Berg. Cut our losses now and bring in Mark Hughes.[/p][/quote]Riversider, as usual a very good, common sense appraisal of the situation. I couldn't agree more. Venkys and the global idiot Shabby have done what most people would have thought impossible. They have replaced the hopelessly inadequate Kean with an even worse manager. There have been numerous posts on here from fans clutching at straws to the effect that Berg needs more time and that he cannot be judged until after January when he can bring in his own players. However, they fail to address the question of what to expect from Berg in the meantime. It is completely reasonable to expect that Berg would make at least some improvements that would become apparent after two months. In reality Rovers have gone backwards. As for the January transfer window where do the optimists think these transformational players are going to miraculously come from? There are only a few good buys and there are many better and more attractive clubs eager to snap them up. No, the reality is that the squads now exists is substantially what Berg will have to work with. It is becoming clear that he is unable to do that and Rovers steep decline continues unabated. I hate to read on here fans speculating about a return to the promotion race. Please stop. That is nowhere near being a possibility. Rovers are now in a race to stay out of the bottom six not get into the top six. Nuttall Street

11:24am Sat 8 Dec 12

wilpshireover says...

The defenders, in particular the centre backs are far too slow. Why is Givet not in the team? He could organise it better. Lets face the fact that most of the squad are Kean signings and it will take Henning Berg a while to get rid of those not up to it and bring in fresh faces.
The defenders, in particular the centre backs are far too slow. Why is Givet not in the team? He could organise it better. Lets face the fact that most of the squad are Kean signings and it will take Henning Berg a while to get rid of those not up to it and bring in fresh faces. wilpshireover

11:27am Sat 8 Dec 12

unclejacklegend says...

OnePostThenTheOther wrote:
dorsetclaret wrote:
baz58 says...
5:42am Sat 8 Dec 12

God help us if we where still in the prem!
DOOMED DOOMED LMFAO
your for league 1
nay mind fleetwood not far
You stil couldn't beat our shower of sh8 on your own patch. How is Bumley's promotion push going? Or is just an obsession with your superiors that brings you on here?
Even in league one we'd be a bigger, better club than you. No matter how bad things are for us, at least I'm not a dingle. Jealous clarets might aswell support rovers, you spend more time following us. What would you say if somebody asked you about burnleys history? I think it would be something along the lines of "noot to tell, bu twern't et funneh wen blackbon lost ter trellebogs int oofer cup." Get a life, sad, bitter, jobless, six fingered cretins.
[quote][p][bold]OnePostThenTheOther[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dorsetclaret[/bold] wrote: baz58 says... 5:42am Sat 8 Dec 12 God help us if we where still in the prem! DOOMED DOOMED LMFAO your for league 1 nay mind fleetwood not far[/p][/quote]You stil couldn't beat our shower of sh8 on your own patch. How is Bumley's promotion push going? Or is just an obsession with your superiors that brings you on here?[/p][/quote]Even in league one we'd be a bigger, better club than you. No matter how bad things are for us, at least I'm not a dingle. Jealous clarets might aswell support rovers, you spend more time following us. What would you say if somebody asked you about burnleys history? I think it would be something along the lines of "noot to tell, bu twern't et funneh wen blackbon lost ter trellebogs int oofer cup." Get a life, sad, bitter, jobless, six fingered cretins. unclejacklegend

11:28am Sat 8 Dec 12

juanbbien says...

It's alright saying bring in Hughes,wait for the January transfer window,get rid of most of the squad,how the hell is this going to happen with whoever owns the club,what money is going too be available,I can't see much,who is going to want any of these players,so that means contracts need to be paid up this will cost some serious money with some high earners signed on for two and three year contracts,the fundamental running of the club is going to alter with this shower in charge.I just can't see an answer we are now in our third year of decline and things are going from bad to worse,they have taken all the meat out of the club and left us with the bones.
It's alright saying bring in Hughes,wait for the January transfer window,get rid of most of the squad,how the hell is this going to happen with whoever owns the club,what money is going too be available,I can't see much,who is going to want any of these players,so that means contracts need to be paid up this will cost some serious money with some high earners signed on for two and three year contracts,the fundamental running of the club is going to alter with this shower in charge.I just can't see an answer we are now in our third year of decline and things are going from bad to worse,they have taken all the meat out of the club and left us with the bones. juanbbien

11:34am Sat 8 Dec 12

J.C - Rishton says...

A friend who texted me at HT last night summed it up perfectly -

Keans signings and Bergs team selections = DISASTER.

Spot on !!!!

We all know that this squad is a shocker but when you pick MO(airfix), DE, JL, MF across midfield then you are always going to struggle to win ANY game at ANY LEVEL.

Add to that he dropped CKR and picked King up front was a bizzare selection - both King and CKR had done well at Burnley and deserved to start - but in the positions they played at Burnley - left wing and up front !!! - to drop CKR and move King to stricker and bring in "airfix" Ollson was just illogical.

As for Etuhu - he can't help being a useless tellentless footballer but he can help being a lazy b@stard - he was clearly at fault for 2 of those goals by not doing the simplest of jobs - marking up and tracking back - Unforgivable, and he should NEVER (under any circumstances) play for Rovers again.

I like HB as a man but anyone who can't pick his best available team (time after time) CANNOT and WILLNOT ever make it as a manager - those who say "judge him after he has brought in his own players" - are talking rubbish - he can't pick the best team out of the squad he has now so what makes you think he's gonna have an eye for a player - GG has not played a single minuate under HB yet we have not kept a single clean sheet - SV continues to warm the bench whilst MF plays all the time and DOES NOTHING - Marcus Ollson plays (and is completely USELESS) yet King, Nunes or even MGP can play in that position and all 3 of them are a differnet level to that useless "nothing" waste of space.

HB, do the right thing and RESIGN - be honest enough and man enough to walk away - don't wait to be sacked - oh, and whilst you're at it, drag that useless tw@t Shebby Singh with you - HE must take FULL RESBONSABILITY for your appointment - he has NO IDEA what it takes to run a professional football club in England - most of us knew it before a ball was kicked but he has, beyond a shaddow of a doubt, proved it to everyone.
A friend who texted me at HT last night summed it up perfectly - Keans signings and Bergs team selections = DISASTER. Spot on !!!! We all know that this squad is a shocker but when you pick MO(airfix), DE, JL, MF across midfield then you are always going to struggle to win ANY game at ANY LEVEL. Add to that he dropped CKR and picked King up front was a bizzare selection - both King and CKR had done well at Burnley and deserved to start - but in the positions they played at Burnley - left wing and up front !!! - to drop CKR and move King to stricker and bring in "airfix" Ollson was just illogical. As for Etuhu - he can't help being a useless tellentless footballer but he can help being a lazy b@stard - he was clearly at fault for 2 of those goals by not doing the simplest of jobs - marking up and tracking back - Unforgivable, and he should NEVER (under any circumstances) play for Rovers again. I like HB as a man but anyone who can't pick his best available team (time after time) CANNOT and WILLNOT ever make it as a manager - those who say "judge him after he has brought in his own players" - are talking rubbish - he can't pick the best team out of the squad he has now so what makes you think he's gonna have an eye for a player - GG has not played a single minuate under HB yet we have not kept a single clean sheet - SV continues to warm the bench whilst MF plays all the time and DOES NOTHING - Marcus Ollson plays (and is completely USELESS) yet King, Nunes or even MGP can play in that position and all 3 of them are a differnet level to that useless "nothing" waste of space. HB, do the right thing and RESIGN - be honest enough and man enough to walk away - don't wait to be sacked - oh, and whilst you're at it, drag that useless tw@t Shebby Singh with you - HE must take FULL RESBONSABILITY for your appointment - he has NO IDEA what it takes to run a professional football club in England - most of us knew it before a ball was kicked but he has, beyond a shaddow of a doubt, proved it to everyone. J.C - Rishton

11:51am Sat 8 Dec 12

Harwoodstblue says...

J.C - Rishton wrote:
A friend who texted me at HT last night summed it up perfectly -

Keans signings and Bergs team selections = DISASTER.

Spot on !!!!

We all know that this squad is a shocker but when you pick MO(airfix), DE, JL, MF across midfield then you are always going to struggle to win ANY game at ANY LEVEL.

Add to that he dropped CKR and picked King up front was a bizzare selection - both King and CKR had done well at Burnley and deserved to start - but in the positions they played at Burnley - left wing and up front !!! - to drop CKR and move King to stricker and bring in "airfix" Ollson was just illogical.

As for Etuhu - he can't help being a useless tellentless footballer but he can help being a lazy b@stard - he was clearly at fault for 2 of those goals by not doing the simplest of jobs - marking up and tracking back - Unforgivable, and he should NEVER (under any circumstances) play for Rovers again.

I like HB as a man but anyone who can't pick his best available team (time after time) CANNOT and WILLNOT ever make it as a manager - those who say "judge him after he has brought in his own players" - are talking rubbish - he can't pick the best team out of the squad he has now so what makes you think he's gonna have an eye for a player - GG has not played a single minuate under HB yet we have not kept a single clean sheet - SV continues to warm the bench whilst MF plays all the time and DOES NOTHING - Marcus Ollson plays (and is completely USELESS) yet King, Nunes or even MGP can play in that position and all 3 of them are a differnet level to that useless "nothing" waste of space.

HB, do the right thing and RESIGN - be honest enough and man enough to walk away - don't wait to be sacked - oh, and whilst you're at it, drag that useless tw@t Shebby Singh with you - HE must take FULL RESBONSABILITY for your appointment - he has NO IDEA what it takes to run a professional football club in England - most of us knew it before a ball was kicked but he has, beyond a shaddow of a doubt, proved it to everyone.
Would you like to say anything Shebby ?....No I thought not.
[quote][p][bold]J.C - Rishton[/bold] wrote: A friend who texted me at HT last night summed it up perfectly - Keans signings and Bergs team selections = DISASTER. Spot on !!!! We all know that this squad is a shocker but when you pick MO(airfix), DE, JL, MF across midfield then you are always going to struggle to win ANY game at ANY LEVEL. Add to that he dropped CKR and picked King up front was a bizzare selection - both King and CKR had done well at Burnley and deserved to start - but in the positions they played at Burnley - left wing and up front !!! - to drop CKR and move King to stricker and bring in "airfix" Ollson was just illogical. As for Etuhu - he can't help being a useless tellentless footballer but he can help being a lazy b@stard - he was clearly at fault for 2 of those goals by not doing the simplest of jobs - marking up and tracking back - Unforgivable, and he should NEVER (under any circumstances) play for Rovers again. I like HB as a man but anyone who can't pick his best available team (time after time) CANNOT and WILLNOT ever make it as a manager - those who say "judge him after he has brought in his own players" - are talking rubbish - he can't pick the best team out of the squad he has now so what makes you think he's gonna have an eye for a player - GG has not played a single minuate under HB yet we have not kept a single clean sheet - SV continues to warm the bench whilst MF plays all the time and DOES NOTHING - Marcus Ollson plays (and is completely USELESS) yet King, Nunes or even MGP can play in that position and all 3 of them are a differnet level to that useless "nothing" waste of space. HB, do the right thing and RESIGN - be honest enough and man enough to walk away - don't wait to be sacked - oh, and whilst you're at it, drag that useless tw@t Shebby Singh with you - HE must take FULL RESBONSABILITY for your appointment - he has NO IDEA what it takes to run a professional football club in England - most of us knew it before a ball was kicked but he has, beyond a shaddow of a doubt, proved it to everyone.[/p][/quote]Would you like to say anything Shebby ?....No I thought not. Harwoodstblue

11:53am Sat 8 Dec 12

blueblooded says...

J.C - Rishton wrote:
A friend who texted me at HT last night summed it up perfectly -

Keans signings and Bergs team selections = DISASTER.

Spot on !!!!

We all know that this squad is a shocker but when you pick MO(airfix), DE, JL, MF across midfield then you are always going to struggle to win ANY game at ANY LEVEL.

Add to that he dropped CKR and picked King up front was a bizzare selection - both King and CKR had done well at Burnley and deserved to start - but in the positions they played at Burnley - left wing and up front !!! - to drop CKR and move King to stricker and bring in "airfix" Ollson was just illogical.

As for Etuhu - he can't help being a useless tellentless footballer but he can help being a lazy b@stard - he was clearly at fault for 2 of those goals by not doing the simplest of jobs - marking up and tracking back - Unforgivable, and he should NEVER (under any circumstances) play for Rovers again.

I like HB as a man but anyone who can't pick his best available team (time after time) CANNOT and WILLNOT ever make it as a manager - those who say "judge him after he has brought in his own players" - are talking rubbish - he can't pick the best team out of the squad he has now so what makes you think he's gonna have an eye for a player - GG has not played a single minuate under HB yet we have not kept a single clean sheet - SV continues to warm the bench whilst MF plays all the time and DOES NOTHING - Marcus Ollson plays (and is completely USELESS) yet King, Nunes or even MGP can play in that position and all 3 of them are a differnet level to that useless "nothing" waste of space.

HB, do the right thing and RESIGN - be honest enough and man enough to walk away - don't wait to be sacked - oh, and whilst you're at it, drag that useless tw@t Shebby Singh with you - HE must take FULL RESBONSABILITY for your appointment - he has NO IDEA what it takes to run a professional football club in England - most of us knew it before a ball was kicked but he has, beyond a shaddow of a doubt, proved it to everyone.
Fair and sensible assessment.

To be fair, Venky's were reportedly baffled by Bergs appointment, but Shebby apparently railroaded his choice through the board. We gave Henning enough chance to show what he can do, it's obvious he is not going to get used promoted - that's not to say he's a bad manager, just that he's not experienced enough for the task ahead and we all know trouble is ahead if we don't at least look like a side that could be promoted with our wage bill and running costs.

Venky's had a meeting today about the current situation. It'll be interesting to see what the outcome is.
[quote][p][bold]J.C - Rishton[/bold] wrote: A friend who texted me at HT last night summed it up perfectly - Keans signings and Bergs team selections = DISASTER. Spot on !!!! We all know that this squad is a shocker but when you pick MO(airfix), DE, JL, MF across midfield then you are always going to struggle to win ANY game at ANY LEVEL. Add to that he dropped CKR and picked King up front was a bizzare selection - both King and CKR had done well at Burnley and deserved to start - but in the positions they played at Burnley - left wing and up front !!! - to drop CKR and move King to stricker and bring in "airfix" Ollson was just illogical. As for Etuhu - he can't help being a useless tellentless footballer but he can help being a lazy b@stard - he was clearly at fault for 2 of those goals by not doing the simplest of jobs - marking up and tracking back - Unforgivable, and he should NEVER (under any circumstances) play for Rovers again. I like HB as a man but anyone who can't pick his best available team (time after time) CANNOT and WILLNOT ever make it as a manager - those who say "judge him after he has brought in his own players" - are talking rubbish - he can't pick the best team out of the squad he has now so what makes you think he's gonna have an eye for a player - GG has not played a single minuate under HB yet we have not kept a single clean sheet - SV continues to warm the bench whilst MF plays all the time and DOES NOTHING - Marcus Ollson plays (and is completely USELESS) yet King, Nunes or even MGP can play in that position and all 3 of them are a differnet level to that useless "nothing" waste of space. HB, do the right thing and RESIGN - be honest enough and man enough to walk away - don't wait to be sacked - oh, and whilst you're at it, drag that useless tw@t Shebby Singh with you - HE must take FULL RESBONSABILITY for your appointment - he has NO IDEA what it takes to run a professional football club in England - most of us knew it before a ball was kicked but he has, beyond a shaddow of a doubt, proved it to everyone.[/p][/quote]Fair and sensible assessment. To be fair, Venky's were reportedly baffled by Bergs appointment, but Shebby apparently railroaded his choice through the board. We gave Henning enough chance to show what he can do, it's obvious he is not going to get used promoted - that's not to say he's a bad manager, just that he's not experienced enough for the task ahead and we all know trouble is ahead if we don't at least look like a side that could be promoted with our wage bill and running costs. Venky's had a meeting today about the current situation. It'll be interesting to see what the outcome is. blueblooded

11:54am Sat 8 Dec 12

Harwoodstblue says...

Harwoodstblue wrote:
J.C - Rishton wrote:
A friend who texted me at HT last night summed it up perfectly -

Keans signings and Bergs team selections = DISASTER.

Spot on !!!!

We all know that this squad is a shocker but when you pick MO(airfix), DE, JL, MF across midfield then you are always going to struggle to win ANY game at ANY LEVEL.

Add to that he dropped CKR and picked King up front was a bizzare selection - both King and CKR had done well at Burnley and deserved to start - but in the positions they played at Burnley - left wing and up front !!! - to drop CKR and move King to stricker and bring in "airfix" Ollson was just illogical.

As for Etuhu - he can't help being a useless tellentless footballer but he can help being a lazy b@stard - he was clearly at fault for 2 of those goals by not doing the simplest of jobs - marking up and tracking back - Unforgivable, and he should NEVER (under any circumstances) play for Rovers again.

I like HB as a man but anyone who can't pick his best available team (time after time) CANNOT and WILLNOT ever make it as a manager - those who say "judge him after he has brought in his own players" - are talking rubbish - he can't pick the best team out of the squad he has now so what makes you think he's gonna have an eye for a player - GG has not played a single minuate under HB yet we have not kept a single clean sheet - SV continues to warm the bench whilst MF plays all the time and DOES NOTHING - Marcus Ollson plays (and is completely USELESS) yet King, Nunes or even MGP can play in that position and all 3 of them are a differnet level to that useless "nothing" waste of space.

HB, do the right thing and RESIGN - be honest enough and man enough to walk away - don't wait to be sacked - oh, and whilst you're at it, drag that useless tw@t Shebby Singh with you - HE must take FULL RESBONSABILITY for your appointment - he has NO IDEA what it takes to run a professional football club in England - most of us knew it before a ball was kicked but he has, beyond a shaddow of a doubt, proved it to everyone.
Would you like to say anything Shebby ?....No I thought not.
Then again, It's the loons in Pune.
He's probably only working under orders from them !!!!
[quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J.C - Rishton[/bold] wrote: A friend who texted me at HT last night summed it up perfectly - Keans signings and Bergs team selections = DISASTER. Spot on !!!! We all know that this squad is a shocker but when you pick MO(airfix), DE, JL, MF across midfield then you are always going to struggle to win ANY game at ANY LEVEL. Add to that he dropped CKR and picked King up front was a bizzare selection - both King and CKR had done well at Burnley and deserved to start - but in the positions they played at Burnley - left wing and up front !!! - to drop CKR and move King to stricker and bring in "airfix" Ollson was just illogical. As for Etuhu - he can't help being a useless tellentless footballer but he can help being a lazy b@stard - he was clearly at fault for 2 of those goals by not doing the simplest of jobs - marking up and tracking back - Unforgivable, and he should NEVER (under any circumstances) play for Rovers again. I like HB as a man but anyone who can't pick his best available team (time after time) CANNOT and WILLNOT ever make it as a manager - those who say "judge him after he has brought in his own players" - are talking rubbish - he can't pick the best team out of the squad he has now so what makes you think he's gonna have an eye for a player - GG has not played a single minuate under HB yet we have not kept a single clean sheet - SV continues to warm the bench whilst MF plays all the time and DOES NOTHING - Marcus Ollson plays (and is completely USELESS) yet King, Nunes or even MGP can play in that position and all 3 of them are a differnet level to that useless "nothing" waste of space. HB, do the right thing and RESIGN - be honest enough and man enough to walk away - don't wait to be sacked - oh, and whilst you're at it, drag that useless tw@t Shebby Singh with you - HE must take FULL RESBONSABILITY for your appointment - he has NO IDEA what it takes to run a professional football club in England - most of us knew it before a ball was kicked but he has, beyond a shaddow of a doubt, proved it to everyone.[/p][/quote]Would you like to say anything Shebby ?....No I thought not.[/p][/quote]Then again, It's the loons in Pune. He's probably only working under orders from them !!!! Harwoodstblue

11:57am Sat 8 Dec 12

Harwoodstblue says...

blueblooded wrote:
J.C - Rishton wrote:
A friend who texted me at HT last night summed it up perfectly -

Keans signings and Bergs team selections = DISASTER.

Spot on !!!!

We all know that this squad is a shocker but when you pick MO(airfix), DE, JL, MF across midfield then you are always going to struggle to win ANY game at ANY LEVEL.

Add to that he dropped CKR and picked King up front was a bizzare selection - both King and CKR had done well at Burnley and deserved to start - but in the positions they played at Burnley - left wing and up front !!! - to drop CKR and move King to stricker and bring in "airfix" Ollson was just illogical.

As for Etuhu - he can't help being a useless tellentless footballer but he can help being a lazy b@stard - he was clearly at fault for 2 of those goals by not doing the simplest of jobs - marking up and tracking back - Unforgivable, and he should NEVER (under any circumstances) play for Rovers again.

I like HB as a man but anyone who can't pick his best available team (time after time) CANNOT and WILLNOT ever make it as a manager - those who say "judge him after he has brought in his own players" - are talking rubbish - he can't pick the best team out of the squad he has now so what makes you think he's gonna have an eye for a player - GG has not played a single minuate under HB yet we have not kept a single clean sheet - SV continues to warm the bench whilst MF plays all the time and DOES NOTHING - Marcus Ollson plays (and is completely USELESS) yet King, Nunes or even MGP can play in that position and all 3 of them are a differnet level to that useless "nothing" waste of space.

HB, do the right thing and RESIGN - be honest enough and man enough to walk away - don't wait to be sacked - oh, and whilst you're at it, drag that useless tw@t Shebby Singh with you - HE must take FULL RESBONSABILITY for your appointment - he has NO IDEA what it takes to run a professional football club in England - most of us knew it before a ball was kicked but he has, beyond a shaddow of a doubt, proved it to everyone.
Fair and sensible assessment.

To be fair, Venky's were reportedly baffled by Bergs appointment, but Shebby apparently railroaded his choice through the board. We gave Henning enough chance to show what he can do, it's obvious he is not going to get used promoted - that's not to say he's a bad manager, just that he's not experienced enough for the task ahead and we all know trouble is ahead if we don't at least look like a side that could be promoted with our wage bill and running costs.

Venky's had a meeting today about the current situation. It'll be interesting to see what the outcome is.
It could be a month to six weeks before we hear anything..........An
d only then, if we're lucky.
[quote][p][bold]blueblooded[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J.C - Rishton[/bold] wrote: A friend who texted me at HT last night summed it up perfectly - Keans signings and Bergs team selections = DISASTER. Spot on !!!! We all know that this squad is a shocker but when you pick MO(airfix), DE, JL, MF across midfield then you are always going to struggle to win ANY game at ANY LEVEL. Add to that he dropped CKR and picked King up front was a bizzare selection - both King and CKR had done well at Burnley and deserved to start - but in the positions they played at Burnley - left wing and up front !!! - to drop CKR and move King to stricker and bring in "airfix" Ollson was just illogical. As for Etuhu - he can't help being a useless tellentless footballer but he can help being a lazy b@stard - he was clearly at fault for 2 of those goals by not doing the simplest of jobs - marking up and tracking back - Unforgivable, and he should NEVER (under any circumstances) play for Rovers again. I like HB as a man but anyone who can't pick his best available team (time after time) CANNOT and WILLNOT ever make it as a manager - those who say "judge him after he has brought in his own players" - are talking rubbish - he can't pick the best team out of the squad he has now so what makes you think he's gonna have an eye for a player - GG has not played a single minuate under HB yet we have not kept a single clean sheet - SV continues to warm the bench whilst MF plays all the time and DOES NOTHING - Marcus Ollson plays (and is completely USELESS) yet King, Nunes or even MGP can play in that position and all 3 of them are a differnet level to that useless "nothing" waste of space. HB, do the right thing and RESIGN - be honest enough and man enough to walk away - don't wait to be sacked - oh, and whilst you're at it, drag that useless tw@t Shebby Singh with you - HE must take FULL RESBONSABILITY for your appointment - he has NO IDEA what it takes to run a professional football club in England - most of us knew it before a ball was kicked but he has, beyond a shaddow of a doubt, proved it to everyone.[/p][/quote]Fair and sensible assessment. To be fair, Venky's were reportedly baffled by Bergs appointment, but Shebby apparently railroaded his choice through the board. We gave Henning enough chance to show what he can do, it's obvious he is not going to get used promoted - that's not to say he's a bad manager, just that he's not experienced enough for the task ahead and we all know trouble is ahead if we don't at least look like a side that could be promoted with our wage bill and running costs. Venky's had a meeting today about the current situation. It'll be interesting to see what the outcome is.[/p][/quote]It could be a month to six weeks before we hear anything..........An d only then, if we're lucky. Harwoodstblue

11:57am Sat 8 Dec 12

1riversider says...

Pardon the pun, but the chickens are coming home to roost. The worst squad of players in 25 years, coupled with a totally inept manager adds up to one thing - relegation!

This is what 2 years of Venky's corrupt ownership has led us to. You optimists out there, wake up and see the reality - it was there on the pitch last night.

Couple the situation on the pitch with the balance sheet, and the only outlook is oblivion!!

SHYSTERS GET OUT OF OUR CLUB NOW
Pardon the pun, but the chickens are coming home to roost. The worst squad of players in 25 years, coupled with a totally inept manager adds up to one thing - relegation! This is what 2 years of Venky's corrupt ownership has led us to. You optimists out there, wake up and see the reality - it was there on the pitch last night. Couple the situation on the pitch with the balance sheet, and the only outlook is oblivion!! SHYSTERS GET OUT OF OUR CLUB NOW 1riversider

12:00pm Sat 8 Dec 12

bluerob says...

Our fans have to take some responsibility in this, we were playing a good top of the league Cardiff team and the attendance was embarrassing.

The atmosphere was like a pre season friendly with a non league team, we need to be the 12th man and make it difficult for the opposition not like a kick around in the local park.

If you have any feelings for Blackburn Rovers I urge you to get back to Ewood and give your support to Berg and the team.

We can make a difference.
Our fans have to take some responsibility in this, we were playing a good top of the league Cardiff team and the attendance was embarrassing. The atmosphere was like a pre season friendly with a non league team, we need to be the 12th man and make it difficult for the opposition not like a kick around in the local park. If you have any feelings for Blackburn Rovers I urge you to get back to Ewood and give your support to Berg and the team. We can make a difference. bluerob

12:00pm Sat 8 Dec 12

Nuttall Street says...

Do you recall those happy days 2 years ago when the Walker Trust and Rob Coar sold out the club and Venkys took over, sacked BFS and appointed Steve Kean? What happened to those happy days when Ma Venky promised us the appointment of Ronaldhino, Beckham and Maradona and immediate entry to the Champions League. It didn't happen and so John Williams et al were swept away and The Global Adviser was appointed; but the goals kept being conceded and so Colin Hendry was appointed and it turned Into a torrent. What will the next disaster be? It is inevitably coming.
Do you recall those happy days 2 years ago when the Walker Trust and Rob Coar sold out the club and Venkys took over, sacked BFS and appointed Steve Kean? What happened to those happy days when Ma Venky promised us the appointment of Ronaldhino, Beckham and Maradona and immediate entry to the Champions League. It didn't happen and so John Williams et al were swept away and The Global Adviser was appointed; but the goals kept being conceded and so Colin Hendry was appointed and it turned Into a torrent. What will the next disaster be? It is inevitably coming. Nuttall Street

12:04pm Sat 8 Dec 12

typical mentality says...

Berg is to NEGATIVE, starts every game with no real pressure or threat to the other team. Defo lacks idea and courage to make a real difference. Look at Fergie, he has publiclily lambasted his senior players, took off a defender 20 mins into a match.

Defend Betterr??/ He should know BETTER as he used to be a defender of a top club. Our mental strength is next to nothing and our ability to pass and control matches is pathetic.

BERG GROW SOME BALLS AND SORT OUT THE PLAYERS, other wise it will chanted BERG OUT!!!
Berg is to NEGATIVE, starts every game with no real pressure or threat to the other team. Defo lacks idea and courage to make a real difference. Look at Fergie, he has publiclily lambasted his senior players, took off a defender 20 mins into a match. Defend Betterr??/ He should know BETTER as he used to be a defender of a top club. Our mental strength is next to nothing and our ability to pass and control matches is pathetic. BERG GROW SOME BALLS AND SORT OUT THE PLAYERS, other wise it will chanted BERG OUT!!! typical mentality

12:13pm Sat 8 Dec 12

stevo42 says...

ive never heard or read anything like it shame on you all,brfc has to have the most fickle supporters in the country give the man a chance for gods sake.
ive never heard or read anything like it shame on you all,brfc has to have the most fickle supporters in the country give the man a chance for gods sake. stevo42

12:13pm Sat 8 Dec 12

Bazzer says...

A Darener wrote:
The ghost of Kean is still haunting us! This team is mainly his players, only King is Bergs and he was our best player. CKR also played well but he was on for only the second half.
Strange you should mention ghosts - for through the gloom last night the perimeter track in front of The Riverside took on the appearance of castle ramparts. There stalked the unmistakable figure of the ghost of not Steve Kean, but Big Sam. Huge dagger in his back.
As each Cardiff goal rained in I thought of fortress Ewood and my mind was transported to my schooldays and poring over Hamlet.
[quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: The ghost of Kean is still haunting us! This team is mainly his players, only King is Bergs and he was our best player. CKR also played well but he was on for only the second half.[/p][/quote]Strange you should mention ghosts - for through the gloom last night the perimeter track in front of The Riverside took on the appearance of castle ramparts. There stalked the unmistakable figure of the ghost of not Steve Kean, but Big Sam. Huge dagger in his back. As each Cardiff goal rained in I thought of fortress Ewood and my mind was transported to my schooldays and poring over Hamlet. Bazzer

12:24pm Sat 8 Dec 12

juanbbien says...

It's alright saying this is not Bergs team wait till he brings in is own players,I seem to remember this being said by a former manager,hench the state we are in.i don't want to start on Berg but the introduction of a new manager usually as some effect on results even if only for the honeymoon period,our honeymoon seems over before it's begun
It's alright saying this is not Bergs team wait till he brings in is own players,I seem to remember this being said by a former manager,hench the state we are in.i don't want to start on Berg but the introduction of a new manager usually as some effect on results even if only for the honeymoon period,our honeymoon seems over before it's begun juanbbien

12:29pm Sat 8 Dec 12

eddyo says...

Bazzer wrote:
A Darener wrote:
The ghost of Kean is still haunting us! This team is mainly his players, only King is Bergs and he was our best player. CKR also played well but he was on for only the second half.
Strange you should mention ghosts - for through the gloom last night the perimeter track in front of The Riverside took on the appearance of castle ramparts. There stalked the unmistakable figure of the ghost of not Steve Kean, but Big Sam. Huge dagger in his back.
As each Cardiff goal rained in I thought of fortress Ewood and my mind was transported to my schooldays and poring over Hamlet.
The only hamlet you had at school mate you smoked, not read.
[quote][p][bold]Bazzer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: The ghost of Kean is still haunting us! This team is mainly his players, only King is Bergs and he was our best player. CKR also played well but he was on for only the second half.[/p][/quote]Strange you should mention ghosts - for through the gloom last night the perimeter track in front of The Riverside took on the appearance of castle ramparts. There stalked the unmistakable figure of the ghost of not Steve Kean, but Big Sam. Huge dagger in his back. As each Cardiff goal rained in I thought of fortress Ewood and my mind was transported to my schooldays and poring over Hamlet.[/p][/quote]The only hamlet you had at school mate you smoked, not read. eddyo

12:46pm Sat 8 Dec 12

Distantfollower says...

I have been supporting (now mainly just following) BRFC since the 1970's and I have now felt the need to comment having watched the situation unfold over the past 3 years. BRFC have a history of turning average young players into very good players then selling on for a sizeable fee to the bigger clubs (EG. Jones at ManU). This has always been accepted as the way to keep a club with a small attendance in the higher positions. The current squad however are not attracting any real significant interest and with reduced gates, the balance sheets will not look good. HB was bought on the cheap because money has been spent on players simply not playing for the shirt.
Confidence is low and tactics are not working. Agree with most who say a clearout is needed but I say lets get the morale back into the dressing room so they go out and give it their best. Let's face it, only way we would make money on the current squad isy selling them via ebay.
I have been supporting (now mainly just following) BRFC since the 1970's and I have now felt the need to comment having watched the situation unfold over the past 3 years. BRFC have a history of turning average young players into very good players then selling on for a sizeable fee to the bigger clubs (EG. Jones at ManU). This has always been accepted as the way to keep a club with a small attendance in the higher positions. The current squad however are not attracting any real significant interest and with reduced gates, the balance sheets will not look good. HB was bought on the cheap because money has been spent on players simply not playing for the shirt. Confidence is low and tactics are not working. Agree with most who say a clearout is needed but I say lets get the morale back into the dressing room so they go out and give it their best. Let's face it, only way we would make money on the current squad isy selling them via ebay. Distantfollower

12:46pm Sat 8 Dec 12

Sherwoodforest says...

samblue wrote:
There's all this talk about how bad the two central defenders are, but surely defence starts at the front and, likewise, attack starts at the back.
The main problems as far as I can see are that we haven't got anyone in midfield who can actually win tackles. For such a big guy, Etuhu is hopeless at tackling, while Murphy is just too slow by half. What we need is another Savage or Flitty to actually win the ball, but where the hell do we find them?
We then need someone who can pass the ball to one of our players, preferably in a forward direction. At this stage I would be tempted to put Givet in midfield to win the ball and Vucevic as the playmaker - after all that's where he plays for his country.
We also need better service from the wings, otherwise it would have been a waste of money buying Rhodes. Personally I would be tempted to see if Duff was available in January. At least he could beat a man and get the ball across.
And while talking about signings, whatever's happened to those three other Portuguese players Kean signed, including a 'top midfielder' and a 'top centre back'.
Berg needs time to bring in some decent players and get rid of a lot of deadwood - but unfortunately time isn't something we've got plenty of
Kean didnt sign the Portuguese players.....thats was Shebby's handywork......
[quote][p][bold]samblue[/bold] wrote: There's all this talk about how bad the two central defenders are, but surely defence starts at the front and, likewise, attack starts at the back. The main problems as far as I can see are that we haven't got anyone in midfield who can actually win tackles. For such a big guy, Etuhu is hopeless at tackling, while Murphy is just too slow by half. What we need is another Savage or Flitty to actually win the ball, but where the hell do we find them? We then need someone who can pass the ball to one of our players, preferably in a forward direction. At this stage I would be tempted to put Givet in midfield to win the ball and Vucevic as the playmaker - after all that's where he plays for his country. We also need better service from the wings, otherwise it would have been a waste of money buying Rhodes. Personally I would be tempted to see if Duff was available in January. At least he could beat a man and get the ball across. And while talking about signings, whatever's happened to those three other Portuguese players Kean signed, including a 'top midfielder' and a 'top centre back'. Berg needs time to bring in some decent players and get rid of a lot of deadwood - but unfortunately time isn't something we've got plenty of[/p][/quote]Kean didnt sign the Portuguese players.....thats was Shebby's handywork...... Sherwoodforest

12:51pm Sat 8 Dec 12

submin01 says...

As Eric M would say. "What do you think of it so Far"
RUBBISH.
It was embarrassing.
As Eric M would say. "What do you think of it so Far" RUBBISH. It was embarrassing. submin01

12:52pm Sat 8 Dec 12

Sherwoodforest says...

MikeD wrote:
well it didn't take long for you lot to come out of the woodwork again did it? Why not organise another protest? Officially the worst fans in football. If you think we have a divine right to win every game then you're in for a disappointing life. Berg can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear. We don't have a midfield and he can't fix it until January. The central defenders are mistake-prone and he can't fix it until January. And guess what - the other teams in this division are pretty good.
coming out of the woodwork?, how condescending, where have you been the last 25 months...... i presume you have Shebby and the 'committee's' number on speed dial?
[quote][p][bold]MikeD[/bold] wrote: well it didn't take long for you lot to come out of the woodwork again did it? Why not organise another protest? Officially the worst fans in football. If you think we have a divine right to win every game then you're in for a disappointing life. Berg can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear. We don't have a midfield and he can't fix it until January. The central defenders are mistake-prone and he can't fix it until January. And guess what - the other teams in this division are pretty good.[/p][/quote]coming out of the woodwork?, how condescending, where have you been the last 25 months...... i presume you have Shebby and the 'committee's' number on speed dial? Sherwoodforest

12:57pm Sat 8 Dec 12

GameRoverMan says...

The defending has been awful for ages. So why isn't Givet getting a game? Dann is deperately bad and Hanley looks like a rabbit caught in the headlights.
The defending has been awful for ages. So why isn't Givet getting a game? Dann is deperately bad and Hanley looks like a rabbit caught in the headlights. GameRoverMan

1:06pm Sat 8 Dec 12

dansker says...

Why Henning Berg- a man from Norway!! Do we not have any ambitions??? I really hope we can get Greame Souness again- the best manager in Rovers for years. So please Venky go for Souness and ok,, let HB be as assist!!!
I know many want Mark Hugnes, but I am sure he is not the man for Rovers!!
but Souness is!! MerryXmas.
Why Henning Berg- a man from Norway!! Do we not have any ambitions??? I really hope we can get Greame Souness again- the best manager in Rovers for years. So please Venky go for Souness and ok,, let HB be as assist!!! I know many want Mark Hugnes, but I am sure he is not the man for Rovers!! but Souness is!! MerryXmas. dansker

1:26pm Sat 8 Dec 12

A Darener says...

Most of the comments on here say we should get MH back! It wouldn't make a bit of difference if we got Sir Alex, Arsene Wenger, And the rest of the PL managers as his assistants. Nobody could turn this team into winners. Only two players should remain in January, JR being one take your pick for the other. We need a fire sale, get rid from top to bottom. I just hope Henning can get his own buys in otherwise we are doomed. Kean has a lot to answer for, but so to do the Venky's and Shebby.
Perhaps a good start would be to appoint a defensive coach! Oh! Wait a minute don't we have one? NO WE DON'T!
Most of the comments on here say we should get MH back! It wouldn't make a bit of difference if we got Sir Alex, Arsene Wenger, And the rest of the PL managers as his assistants. Nobody could turn this team into winners. Only two players should remain in January, JR being one take your pick for the other. We need a fire sale, get rid from top to bottom. I just hope Henning can get his own buys in otherwise we are doomed. Kean has a lot to answer for, but so to do the Venky's and Shebby. Perhaps a good start would be to appoint a defensive coach! Oh! Wait a minute don't we have one? NO WE DON'T! A Darener

1:53pm Sat 8 Dec 12

blueblooded says...

LanghoDAN wrote:
The club I once followed up to this shower taking over are on the verge off going down again, we're on earth are the owners and mr shebby lover lover, we have not heard nothing from her over in India or the brothers once, since there bum boy departed in the dodgy sunset, it funny as mr shing was on every sporting channel when hiring and looking for a new manager we couldn't get enought if him, but now dose he even Exist anymore, if nothing is done to this club it's by by Blackburn rovers forever, the owners do they give a dam about what really happens to us as they have made enought money to **** off,I'm afraid the supporters are being fooled by watching this crap club, I noticed on sky sports news scarves and banners being thrown onto the pitch again last night, but there's the ones who have committed to watching and contributing to the ruining of the club
Out with venkys
Berg
Hendry
And the supporters
Bullcr@p glory hunter.

You know, I know and everyone knows it wouldn't matter who owned the club or which bunch of nasties sat in the boardroom. If miraculously we found our firm and started to win, you tin pot stay aways would be there waving your flags as if you'd never been away.

Get bring the team or stay away for ever made, your choice, but don't come on here brandishing the real fans who know bad times and good times are to be had but the team still needs support and the real supporters will still be there . You think it's easy attending games in the last few years knowing what we know and knowing a crushing defeat is much more likely than a win? Do you think it's enjoyable?

You're almost as bad as the dingles with your disgraceful attack of real fans. Shame on you.
[quote][p][bold]LanghoDAN[/bold] wrote: The club I once followed up to this shower taking over are on the verge off going down again, we're on earth are the owners and mr shebby lover lover, we have not heard nothing from her over in India or the brothers once, since there bum boy departed in the dodgy sunset, it funny as mr shing was on every sporting channel when hiring and looking for a new manager we couldn't get enought if him, but now dose he even Exist anymore, if nothing is done to this club it's by by Blackburn rovers forever, the owners do they give a dam about what really happens to us as they have made enought money to **** off,I'm afraid the supporters are being fooled by watching this crap club, I noticed on sky sports news scarves and banners being thrown onto the pitch again last night, but there's the ones who have committed to watching and contributing to the ruining of the club Out with venkys Berg Hendry And the supporters[/p][/quote]Bullcr@p glory hunter. You know, I know and everyone knows it wouldn't matter who owned the club or which bunch of nasties sat in the boardroom. If miraculously we found our firm and started to win, you tin pot stay aways would be there waving your flags as if you'd never been away. Get bring the team or stay away for ever made, your choice, but don't come on here brandishing the real fans who know bad times and good times are to be had but the team still needs support and the real supporters will still be there . You think it's easy attending games in the last few years knowing what we know and knowing a crushing defeat is much more likely than a win? Do you think it's enjoyable? You're almost as bad as the dingles with your disgraceful attack of real fans. Shame on you. blueblooded

1:54pm Sat 8 Dec 12

angryandy says...

Sorry but I don't buy, as some are saying, that "Berg has been left no defenders/ midfield to work with". Why was Givet/Vukcevic/Peder
sen on the bench? Are they not international players who should be able to adapt to situations as they arise. Dann and Hanley should never be a central defensive partnership ever again, the pair of them seem to get tied in knots at the drop of a hat with Dann appearing disiterested at times and no where near fit enough. Etuhu is incapable of passing a ball forwards. Surely we have something better available. What has Gomes done wrong???? Currently living down to my username unfortunately.
Sorry but I don't buy, as some are saying, that "Berg has been left no defenders/ midfield to work with". Why was Givet/Vukcevic/Peder sen on the bench? Are they not international players who should be able to adapt to situations as they arise. Dann and Hanley should never be a central defensive partnership ever again, the pair of them seem to get tied in knots at the drop of a hat with Dann appearing disiterested at times and no where near fit enough. Etuhu is incapable of passing a ball forwards. Surely we have something better available. What has Gomes done wrong???? Currently living down to my username unfortunately. angryandy

1:58pm Sat 8 Dec 12

Nurseman says...

There must be no doubt now that Berg is clueless.
He is all talk just like a TV pundit
There must be no doubt now that Berg is clueless. He is all talk just like a TV pundit Nurseman

2:09pm Sat 8 Dec 12

vicn1956 says...

"If you feel anything for this club!"
I I have been to 2 away games and 1 home game this season after 46 years of hardly missing a game.
I I have seen this club destroyed piece by piece from within. The fans IGNORED and abused-sometimes physically. I came back for the wolves game and nothing had changed-on the pitch and treatment of the fans in the darwen end. It hurts but I've had enough. I wrote to shabby-no reply!
I've supported the club through bad times before but I can't stomach our owners. I've nothing against HB but his appointment sums everything up.
I suspect thousands of others feel this way! Doubtless others will criticise me and call me allsorts but something inside has died-nay been killed by the events of the last 2 years. What will bring me back? I'll let others put their views forward on that one.
Hopefully when this mess is sorted I'll be back-wherever they end up!
"If you feel anything for this club!" I I have been to 2 away games and 1 home game this season after 46 years of hardly missing a game. I I have seen this club destroyed piece by piece from within. The fans IGNORED and abused-sometimes physically. I came back for the wolves game and nothing had changed-on the pitch and treatment of the fans in the darwen end. It hurts but I've had enough. I wrote to shabby-no reply! I've supported the club through bad times before but I can't stomach our owners. I've nothing against HB but his appointment sums everything up. I suspect thousands of others feel this way! Doubtless others will criticise me and call me allsorts but something inside has died-nay been killed by the events of the last 2 years. What will bring me back? I'll let others put their views forward on that one. Hopefully when this mess is sorted I'll be back-wherever they end up! vicn1956

2:13pm Sat 8 Dec 12

stick to football says...

This is a league which is physical and fitness is a vital part of its game plan. Rovers lack both.

All season at home even when winning they never controlled the game ,midfield has been out fought outrun and except for a David Dunn cameo and a few turns fro Rueban midfield has lacked creativity.

Sadly Bergs decision to have continuity with unchanged teams has failed totally. If he believes this group of players are good enough to earn promotion this season then he is as deluded asKean and Shebby.

All will have noticed Shebby has gone awfully quiet again and when was a Vnky last spotted circling Ewood - dont blame them its not worth the bus fare from town centre never mind India

As for crowds the only reason it was nearly 13000 last night is because they count the season ticket holders - round where I sit many again were absent - fans are walking with their feet away from Ewood - troubled times ahead I fear

As for the experienced international players on the bench well dont be surprised if many jump ship at 1st opportunity because if they cant get a gamne when Rovers on the field are so bad just what is the point in staying.

I can only assume Berg was trying to v=create a young vibrant side who played nice football - wrong league this one is about organisation commitment and passion - Rovers fall short in all three areas
This is a league which is physical and fitness is a vital part of its game plan. Rovers lack both. All season at home even when winning they never controlled the game ,midfield has been out fought outrun and except for a David Dunn cameo and a few turns fro Rueban midfield has lacked creativity. Sadly Bergs decision to have continuity with unchanged teams has failed totally. If he believes this group of players are good enough to earn promotion this season then he is as deluded asKean and Shebby. All will have noticed Shebby has gone awfully quiet again and when was a Vnky last spotted circling Ewood - dont blame them its not worth the bus fare from town centre never mind India As for crowds the only reason it was nearly 13000 last night is because they count the season ticket holders - round where I sit many again were absent - fans are walking with their feet away from Ewood - troubled times ahead I fear As for the experienced international players on the bench well dont be surprised if many jump ship at 1st opportunity because if they cant get a gamne when Rovers on the field are so bad just what is the point in staying. I can only assume Berg was trying to v=create a young vibrant side who played nice football - wrong league this one is about organisation commitment and passion - Rovers fall short in all three areas stick to football

2:19pm Sat 8 Dec 12

OnePostThenTheOther says...

bluerob wrote:
Our fans have to take some responsibility in this, we were playing a good top of the league Cardiff team and the attendance was embarrassing.

The atmosphere was like a pre season friendly with a non league team, we need to be the 12th man and make it difficult for the opposition not like a kick around in the local park.

If you have any feelings for Blackburn Rovers I urge you to get back to Ewood and give your support to Berg and the team.

We can make a difference.
"If you have any feelings for Blackburn Rovers ..... " Is that a message for the owners? Fact is even if we were playing great football and pushing for the European football promised by Venkys, going to the match is still a discretionary spend. While we're playing sh!t football and looking at the wrong end of the Championship table then people who aren't diehards won't turn upand pay to watch the kind of half-hearted rubbish that was on offer last night.
[quote][p][bold]bluerob[/bold] wrote: Our fans have to take some responsibility in this, we were playing a good top of the league Cardiff team and the attendance was embarrassing. The atmosphere was like a pre season friendly with a non league team, we need to be the 12th man and make it difficult for the opposition not like a kick around in the local park. If you have any feelings for Blackburn Rovers I urge you to get back to Ewood and give your support to Berg and the team. We can make a difference.[/p][/quote]"If you have any feelings for Blackburn Rovers ..... " Is that a message for the owners? Fact is even if we were playing great football and pushing for the European football promised by Venkys, going to the match is still a discretionary spend. While we're playing sh!t football and looking at the wrong end of the Championship table then people who aren't diehards won't turn upand pay to watch the kind of half-hearted rubbish that was on offer last night. OnePostThenTheOther

2:21pm Sat 8 Dec 12

FCBurnley says...

HB quote `They were a bit more experienced than us `

Priceless
HB quote `They were a bit more experienced than us ` Priceless FCBurnley

2:27pm Sat 8 Dec 12

Lancs - pensioner says...

vicn1956 wrote:
"If you feel anything for this club!" I I have been to 2 away games and 1 home game this season after 46 years of hardly missing a game. I I have seen this club destroyed piece by piece from within. The fans IGNORED and abused-sometimes physically. I came back for the wolves game and nothing had changed-on the pitch and treatment of the fans in the darwen end. It hurts but I've had enough. I wrote to shabby-no reply! I've supported the club through bad times before but I can't stomach our owners. I've nothing against HB but his appointment sums everything up. I suspect thousands of others feel this way! Doubtless others will criticise me and call me allsorts but something inside has died-nay been killed by the events of the last 2 years. What will bring me back? I'll let others put their views forward on that one. Hopefully when this mess is sorted I'll be back-wherever they end up!
I've got to say I am feeling the same Vicn years of going down even in the third division it was better than this
[quote][p][bold]vicn1956[/bold] wrote: "If you feel anything for this club!" I I have been to 2 away games and 1 home game this season after 46 years of hardly missing a game. I I have seen this club destroyed piece by piece from within. The fans IGNORED and abused-sometimes physically. I came back for the wolves game and nothing had changed-on the pitch and treatment of the fans in the darwen end. It hurts but I've had enough. I wrote to shabby-no reply! I've supported the club through bad times before but I can't stomach our owners. I've nothing against HB but his appointment sums everything up. I suspect thousands of others feel this way! Doubtless others will criticise me and call me allsorts but something inside has died-nay been killed by the events of the last 2 years. What will bring me back? I'll let others put their views forward on that one. Hopefully when this mess is sorted I'll be back-wherever they end up![/p][/quote]I've got to say I am feeling the same Vicn years of going down even in the third division it was better than this Lancs - pensioner

2:32pm Sat 8 Dec 12

Bazzer says...

eddyo wrote:
Bazzer wrote:
A Darener wrote: The ghost of Kean is still haunting us! This team is mainly his players, only King is Bergs and he was our best player. CKR also played well but he was on for only the second half.
Strange you should mention ghosts - for through the gloom last night the perimeter track in front of The Riverside took on the appearance of castle ramparts. There stalked the unmistakable figure of the ghost of not Steve Kean, but Big Sam. Huge dagger in his back. As each Cardiff goal rained in I thought of fortress Ewood and my mind was transported to my schooldays and poring over Hamlet.
The only hamlet you had at school mate you smoked, not read.
It will have to be skunk in future if I am to survive Rovers matches......
[quote][p][bold]eddyo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bazzer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: The ghost of Kean is still haunting us! This team is mainly his players, only King is Bergs and he was our best player. CKR also played well but he was on for only the second half.[/p][/quote]Strange you should mention ghosts - for through the gloom last night the perimeter track in front of The Riverside took on the appearance of castle ramparts. There stalked the unmistakable figure of the ghost of not Steve Kean, but Big Sam. Huge dagger in his back. As each Cardiff goal rained in I thought of fortress Ewood and my mind was transported to my schooldays and poring over Hamlet.[/p][/quote]The only hamlet you had at school mate you smoked, not read.[/p][/quote]It will have to be skunk in future if I am to survive Rovers matches...... Bazzer

2:36pm Sat 8 Dec 12

gleechy says...

Looking back, it looks like the Venks have sold all the top players and replaced them with Rhodes, just to prove to the immature amongst us that they are not asset strippers.

It's very difficult to express a negative feeling on here because of dimwitts not wanting more bad news, but it's true, anyone with any quality has been sold, and the rest have dwindled in stature through following a fake Manager for so long.

Mr Berg is starting in a different league to Kean literally, but, he's definately struggling with what he's got, and spending isn't an option for his shady owners.

They are the owners from hell.
Looking back, it looks like the Venks have sold all the top players and replaced them with Rhodes, just to prove to the immature amongst us that they are not asset strippers. It's very difficult to express a negative feeling on here because of dimwitts not wanting more bad news, but it's true, anyone with any quality has been sold, and the rest have dwindled in stature through following a fake Manager for so long. Mr Berg is starting in a different league to Kean literally, but, he's definately struggling with what he's got, and spending isn't an option for his shady owners. They are the owners from hell. gleechy

2:38pm Sat 8 Dec 12

srvp28 says...

I'm all for giving Berg a chance but he needs to spend less time "working on things we're doing well" and more time fixing our defensive frailties. I find it hard to believe that the Robinson, Dann and Hanley that turned up last night were the same players that kept us in the game at Burnley less than a week ago. Also, as unpopular as he was with some fans, I do feel that the decision to let Orr leave has come back to bite Berg on the a**e. Henley may be quicker going forward but, like Olsson on the left, he doesn't seem to be a natural defender. I can also understand people questioning why Givet was on the bench but he's recently returned from injury, plus I doubt any manager would've dropped Dann or Hanley after last weekend.

King did well to take his goal but his first-half performance was similar to Rochina's against Peterborough - run at defenders until they crowd you out, even though a simple pass to Rhodes would put him through. Rochina, King and Formica are all far too greedy to be playing in the same team as Rhodes and it's something that needs to be addressed immediately. I'm not saying Rhodes would score every chance he gets but I'd wager he'd score the majority of them. I think the time has come to give some of the fringe players a chance, even if it's only for one game, to not only see what they can do but also give some of the 'guaranteed' starters some food for thought.

I'm not sure what's more depressing, being a Rovers fan watching the team capitulate against Cardiff or being a Burnley fan and spending your Friday night commenting on another team's forum? Still, it looks like Christmas will come early for them as they're all fixated on leapfrogging us which, to be fair, is inevitable.
I'm all for giving Berg a chance but he needs to spend less time "working on things we're doing well" and more time fixing our defensive frailties. I find it hard to believe that the Robinson, Dann and Hanley that turned up last night were the same players that kept us in the game at Burnley less than a week ago. Also, as unpopular as he was with some fans, I do feel that the decision to let Orr leave has come back to bite Berg on the a**e. Henley may be quicker going forward but, like Olsson on the left, he doesn't seem to be a natural defender. I can also understand people questioning why Givet was on the bench but he's recently returned from injury, plus I doubt any manager would've dropped Dann or Hanley after last weekend. King did well to take his goal but his first-half performance was similar to Rochina's against Peterborough - run at defenders until they crowd you out, even though a simple pass to Rhodes would put him through. Rochina, King and Formica are all far too greedy to be playing in the same team as Rhodes and it's something that needs to be addressed immediately. I'm not saying Rhodes would score every chance he gets but I'd wager he'd score the majority of them. I think the time has come to give some of the fringe players a chance, even if it's only for one game, to not only see what they can do but also give some of the 'guaranteed' starters some food for thought. I'm not sure what's more depressing, being a Rovers fan watching the team capitulate against Cardiff or being a Burnley fan and spending your Friday night commenting on another team's forum? Still, it looks like Christmas will come early for them as they're all fixated on leapfrogging us which, to be fair, is inevitable. srvp28

2:38pm Sat 8 Dec 12

Bazzer says...

gleechy wrote:
Looking back, it looks like the Venks have sold all the top players and replaced them with Rhodes, just to prove to the immature amongst us that they are not asset strippers. It's very difficult to express a negative feeling on here because of dimwitts not wanting more bad news, but it's true, anyone with any quality has been sold, and the rest have dwindled in stature through following a fake Manager for so long. Mr Berg is starting in a different league to Kean literally, but, he's definately struggling with what he's got, and spending isn't an option for his shady owners. They are the owners from hell.
Everything you say is spot on. The horror is that the owners from Hell can make it a whole lot worse.
[quote][p][bold]gleechy[/bold] wrote: Looking back, it looks like the Venks have sold all the top players and replaced them with Rhodes, just to prove to the immature amongst us that they are not asset strippers. It's very difficult to express a negative feeling on here because of dimwitts not wanting more bad news, but it's true, anyone with any quality has been sold, and the rest have dwindled in stature through following a fake Manager for so long. Mr Berg is starting in a different league to Kean literally, but, he's definately struggling with what he's got, and spending isn't an option for his shady owners. They are the owners from hell.[/p][/quote]Everything you say is spot on. The horror is that the owners from Hell can make it a whole lot worse. Bazzer

2:52pm Sat 8 Dec 12

andychoc says...

MikeD wrote:
well it didn't take long for you lot to come out of the woodwork again did it? Why not organise another protest? Officially the worst fans in football. If you think we have a divine right to win every game then you're in for a disappointing life. Berg can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear. We don't have a midfield and he can't fix it until January. The central defenders are mistake-prone and he can't fix it until January. And guess what - the other teams in this division are pretty good.
Shut it mike, you obviously don't go to the game do ya? Or ya not a rovers fan? Can't even be bothered explainin the problems to morons.
[quote][p][bold]MikeD[/bold] wrote: well it didn't take long for you lot to come out of the woodwork again did it? Why not organise another protest? Officially the worst fans in football. If you think we have a divine right to win every game then you're in for a disappointing life. Berg can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear. We don't have a midfield and he can't fix it until January. The central defenders are mistake-prone and he can't fix it until January. And guess what - the other teams in this division are pretty good.[/p][/quote]Shut it mike, you obviously don't go to the game do ya? Or ya not a rovers fan? Can't even be bothered explainin the problems to morons. andychoc

2:52pm Sat 8 Dec 12

andychoc says...

MikeD wrote:
well it didn't take long for you lot to come out of the woodwork again did it? Why not organise another protest? Officially the worst fans in football. If you think we have a divine right to win every game then you're in for a disappointing life. Berg can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear. We don't have a midfield and he can't fix it until January. The central defenders are mistake-prone and he can't fix it until January. And guess what - the other teams in this division are pretty good.
Shut it mike, you obviously don't go to the game do ya? Or ya not a rovers fan? Can't even be bothered explainin the problems to morons.
[quote][p][bold]MikeD[/bold] wrote: well it didn't take long for you lot to come out of the woodwork again did it? Why not organise another protest? Officially the worst fans in football. If you think we have a divine right to win every game then you're in for a disappointing life. Berg can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear. We don't have a midfield and he can't fix it until January. The central defenders are mistake-prone and he can't fix it until January. And guess what - the other teams in this division are pretty good.[/p][/quote]Shut it mike, you obviously don't go to the game do ya? Or ya not a rovers fan? Can't even be bothered explainin the problems to morons. andychoc

3:22pm Sat 8 Dec 12

andychoc says...

srvp28 wrote:
I'm all for giving Berg a chance but he needs to spend less time "working on things we're doing well" and more time fixing our defensive frailties. I find it hard to believe that the Robinson, Dann and Hanley that turned up last night were the same players that kept us in the game at Burnley less than a week ago. Also, as unpopular as he was with some fans, I do feel that the decision to let Orr leave has come back to bite Berg on the a**e. Henley may be quicker going forward but, like Olsson on the left, he doesn't seem to be a natural defender. I can also understand people questioning why Givet was on the bench but he's recently returned from injury, plus I doubt any manager would've dropped Dann or Hanley after last weekend. King did well to take his goal but his first-half performance was similar to Rochina's against Peterborough - run at defenders until they crowd you out, even though a simple pass to Rhodes would put him through. Rochina, King and Formica are all far too greedy to be playing in the same team as Rhodes and it's something that needs to be addressed immediately. I'm not saying Rhodes would score every chance he gets but I'd wager he'd score the majority of them. I think the time has come to give some of the fringe players a chance, even if it's only for one game, to not only see what they can do but also give some of the 'guaranteed' starters some food for thought. I'm not sure what's more depressing, being a Rovers fan watching the team capitulate against Cardiff or being a Burnley fan and spending your Friday night commenting on another team's forum? Still, it looks like Christmas will come early for them as they're all fixated on leapfrogging us which, to be fair, is inevitable.
I agree with everything apart from givet, get him in now, get him in for dann, dann has be consistently bad since day one. The mistakes he makes are simply shocking. Givet in for the blackpool game.
[quote][p][bold]srvp28[/bold] wrote: I'm all for giving Berg a chance but he needs to spend less time "working on things we're doing well" and more time fixing our defensive frailties. I find it hard to believe that the Robinson, Dann and Hanley that turned up last night were the same players that kept us in the game at Burnley less than a week ago. Also, as unpopular as he was with some fans, I do feel that the decision to let Orr leave has come back to bite Berg on the a**e. Henley may be quicker going forward but, like Olsson on the left, he doesn't seem to be a natural defender. I can also understand people questioning why Givet was on the bench but he's recently returned from injury, plus I doubt any manager would've dropped Dann or Hanley after last weekend. King did well to take his goal but his first-half performance was similar to Rochina's against Peterborough - run at defenders until they crowd you out, even though a simple pass to Rhodes would put him through. Rochina, King and Formica are all far too greedy to be playing in the same team as Rhodes and it's something that needs to be addressed immediately. I'm not saying Rhodes would score every chance he gets but I'd wager he'd score the majority of them. I think the time has come to give some of the fringe players a chance, even if it's only for one game, to not only see what they can do but also give some of the 'guaranteed' starters some food for thought. I'm not sure what's more depressing, being a Rovers fan watching the team capitulate against Cardiff or being a Burnley fan and spending your Friday night commenting on another team's forum? Still, it looks like Christmas will come early for them as they're all fixated on leapfrogging us which, to be fair, is inevitable.[/p][/quote]I agree with everything apart from givet, get him in now, get him in for dann, dann has be consistently bad since day one. The mistakes he makes are simply shocking. Givet in for the blackpool game. andychoc

3:55pm Sat 8 Dec 12

penrithrover says...

Nuttall Street wrote:
Do you recall those happy days 2 years ago when the Walker Trust and Rob Coar sold out the club and Venkys took over, sacked BFS and appointed Steve Kean? What happened to those happy days when Ma Venky promised us the appointment of Ronaldhino, Beckham and Maradona and immediate entry to the Champions League. It didn't happen and so John Williams et al were swept away and The Global Adviser was appointed; but the goals kept being conceded and so Colin Hendry was appointed and it turned Into a torrent. What will the next disaster be? It is inevitably coming.
Good comment / Berg is heading for the axe , he will be the one that gets the push, losing his job and his credibility , but the defensive coach Hendry will definately keep his job whatever happens until Hendry pays the money back to the person he owes at Rovers, Black will probably keep his job , but its these two guys Hendry/Black that work with the players on a day to day basis , Berg should realise one thing either he ships these two out or he ships out himself , they are Keans drinking mates not Berg`s and they will not bother one iota if Berg gets shafted.
[quote][p][bold]Nuttall Street[/bold] wrote: Do you recall those happy days 2 years ago when the Walker Trust and Rob Coar sold out the club and Venkys took over, sacked BFS and appointed Steve Kean? What happened to those happy days when Ma Venky promised us the appointment of Ronaldhino, Beckham and Maradona and immediate entry to the Champions League. It didn't happen and so John Williams et al were swept away and The Global Adviser was appointed; but the goals kept being conceded and so Colin Hendry was appointed and it turned Into a torrent. What will the next disaster be? It is inevitably coming.[/p][/quote]Good comment / Berg is heading for the axe , he will be the one that gets the push, losing his job and his credibility , but the defensive coach Hendry will definately keep his job whatever happens until Hendry pays the money back to the person he owes at Rovers, Black will probably keep his job , but its these two guys Hendry/Black that work with the players on a day to day basis , Berg should realise one thing either he ships these two out or he ships out himself , they are Keans drinking mates not Berg`s and they will not bother one iota if Berg gets shafted. penrithrover

4:23pm Sat 8 Dec 12

dangerous dave says...

since Berg appointed - 24 points played for 'only' 6 gained - says it all - bad appointment on the cheap and we have'nt heard anything from the three muskateers of Shaw, Agnew and Shabby Shabby Singh!!!!!
OUT WITH SHAW AGNEW SINGH BLACK HENDRY AND POSSIBLY BERG
since Berg appointed - 24 points played for 'only' 6 gained - says it all - bad appointment on the cheap and we have'nt heard anything from the three muskateers of Shaw, Agnew and Shabby Shabby Singh!!!!! OUT WITH SHAW AGNEW SINGH BLACK HENDRY AND POSSIBLY BERG dangerous dave

4:39pm Sat 8 Dec 12

passingfootball says...

B.orr's having a laugh tonight, mccarthys ipswich empathic mill wall. 3-0,
B.orr's having a laugh tonight, mccarthys ipswich empathic mill wall. 3-0, passingfootball

5:01pm Sat 8 Dec 12

A Darener says...

I know we shouldn't encourage the Dingles on these pages but after all their boasting last week and how they were going to leapfrog us today......what happened? They still can't get above us.
I know we shouldn't encourage the Dingles on these pages but after all their boasting last week and how they were going to leapfrog us today......what happened? They still can't get above us. A Darener

5:03pm Sat 8 Dec 12

bluerob says...

Would be interested to hear from all those who stated on this Forum that they would not want Mick Mcarthy at Ewood, do you think you were right or wrong ?
Would be interested to hear from all those who stated on this Forum that they would not want Mick Mcarthy at Ewood, do you think you were right or wrong ? bluerob

5:06pm Sat 8 Dec 12

A Darener says...

bluerob wrote:
Would be interested to hear from all those who stated on this Forum that they would not want Mick Mcarthy at Ewood, do you think you were right or wrong ?
Only the relative team positions at the end of the season will decide who was right and who was wrong. At the moment we are above Ipswich.
[quote][p][bold]bluerob[/bold] wrote: Would be interested to hear from all those who stated on this Forum that they would not want Mick Mcarthy at Ewood, do you think you were right or wrong ?[/p][/quote]Only the relative team positions at the end of the season will decide who was right and who was wrong. At the moment we are above Ipswich. A Darener

5:09pm Sat 8 Dec 12

Return of the Magnificent se7en says...

passingfootball wrote:
B.orr's having a laugh tonight, mccarthys ipswich empathic mill wall. 3-0,
I see Burnley took a good padgering again and dried up Charlie Austin, complete with his 2 million buy out clause fails to score. Even the sight of Dick van Dyke doin the ol bamboo on the touchline wasn't enough to inspire the mouth breathers.
Howe can they have got it so wrong as Eddie howe is now unbeaten in 12 after joining a bigger club with more ambition.
Rest easy all you cousin lovers, looks like your destined to stay below us forever. XXX
[quote][p][bold]passingfootball[/bold] wrote: B.orr's having a laugh tonight, mccarthys ipswich empathic mill wall. 3-0,[/p][/quote]I see Burnley took a good padgering again and dried up Charlie Austin, complete with his 2 million buy out clause fails to score. Even the sight of Dick van Dyke doin the ol bamboo on the touchline wasn't enough to inspire the mouth breathers. Howe can they have got it so wrong as Eddie howe is now unbeaten in 12 after joining a bigger club with more ambition. Rest easy all you cousin lovers, looks like your destined to stay below us forever. XXX Return of the Magnificent se7en

5:16pm Sat 8 Dec 12

dangerous dave says...

totally wrong - look what he's done with the Ipswich team he inherited with no transfers in other then his own backroom staff - good solid Manager, motivator with sound managerial skills and knows his way around the Championship - we are now down to 13th and 18 points behind the leaders!!!
OUT WITH SHAW AGNEW SINGH BLACK HENDRY
totally wrong - look what he's done with the Ipswich team he inherited with no transfers in other then his own backroom staff - good solid Manager, motivator with sound managerial skills and knows his way around the Championship - we are now down to 13th and 18 points behind the leaders!!! OUT WITH SHAW AGNEW SINGH BLACK HENDRY dangerous dave

5:26pm Sat 8 Dec 12

srvp28 says...

andychoc wrote:
srvp28 wrote:
I'm all for giving Berg a chance but he needs to spend less time "working on things we're doing well" and more time fixing our defensive frailties. I find it hard to believe that the Robinson, Dann and Hanley that turned up last night were the same players that kept us in the game at Burnley less than a week ago. Also, as unpopular as he was with some fans, I do feel that the decision to let Orr leave has come back to bite Berg on the a**e. Henley may be quicker going forward but, like Olsson on the left, he doesn't seem to be a natural defender. I can also understand people questioning why Givet was on the bench but he's recently returned from injury, plus I doubt any manager would've dropped Dann or Hanley after last weekend. King did well to take his goal but his first-half performance was similar to Rochina's against Peterborough - run at defenders until they crowd you out, even though a simple pass to Rhodes would put him through. Rochina, King and Formica are all far too greedy to be playing in the same team as Rhodes and it's something that needs to be addressed immediately. I'm not saying Rhodes would score every chance he gets but I'd wager he'd score the majority of them. I think the time has come to give some of the fringe players a chance, even if it's only for one game, to not only see what they can do but also give some of the 'guaranteed' starters some food for thought. I'm not sure what's more depressing, being a Rovers fan watching the team capitulate against Cardiff or being a Burnley fan and spending your Friday night commenting on another team's forum? Still, it looks like Christmas will come early for them as they're all fixated on leapfrogging us which, to be fair, is inevitable.
I agree with everything apart from givet, get him in now, get him in for dann, dann has be consistently bad since day one. The mistakes he makes are simply shocking. Givet in for the blackpool game.
I wasn't saying that we shouldn't play Givet, I was just pointing out why he hasn't been playing.
[quote][p][bold]andychoc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]srvp28[/bold] wrote: I'm all for giving Berg a chance but he needs to spend less time "working on things we're doing well" and more time fixing our defensive frailties. I find it hard to believe that the Robinson, Dann and Hanley that turned up last night were the same players that kept us in the game at Burnley less than a week ago. Also, as unpopular as he was with some fans, I do feel that the decision to let Orr leave has come back to bite Berg on the a**e. Henley may be quicker going forward but, like Olsson on the left, he doesn't seem to be a natural defender. I can also understand people questioning why Givet was on the bench but he's recently returned from injury, plus I doubt any manager would've dropped Dann or Hanley after last weekend. King did well to take his goal but his first-half performance was similar to Rochina's against Peterborough - run at defenders until they crowd you out, even though a simple pass to Rhodes would put him through. Rochina, King and Formica are all far too greedy to be playing in the same team as Rhodes and it's something that needs to be addressed immediately. I'm not saying Rhodes would score every chance he gets but I'd wager he'd score the majority of them. I think the time has come to give some of the fringe players a chance, even if it's only for one game, to not only see what they can do but also give some of the 'guaranteed' starters some food for thought. I'm not sure what's more depressing, being a Rovers fan watching the team capitulate against Cardiff or being a Burnley fan and spending your Friday night commenting on another team's forum? Still, it looks like Christmas will come early for them as they're all fixated on leapfrogging us which, to be fair, is inevitable.[/p][/quote]I agree with everything apart from givet, get him in now, get him in for dann, dann has be consistently bad since day one. The mistakes he makes are simply shocking. Givet in for the blackpool game.[/p][/quote]I wasn't saying that we shouldn't play Givet, I was just pointing out why he hasn't been playing. srvp28

5:27pm Sat 8 Dec 12

A Darener says...

Until it is mathematically impossible to get promoted then we cannot say that Berg is a failure. Just give him a chance. Nothing could be worse than still having Kean as manager.
Until it is mathematically impossible to get promoted then we cannot say that Berg is a failure. Just give him a chance. Nothing could be worse than still having Kean as manager. A Darener

5:37pm Sat 8 Dec 12

moh says...

Harwoodstblue wrote:
Joey99 wrote:
The defence has been a problem for ages now, with subsequent managers doing nothing about it. We should have got a CB or two in in the loan window
Yes we should but Venkys won't pay the wages.
Didn't Black want to bring in a player from Stoke but Venkys wouldn't sanction it ?
The team dont play in first half. They only turn up in second half. If management/Berg cannot sort it out what can Venkys do? We have a few strikers so why get another striker, we need defender with presence and fight in him. Why is Berg not playing Givet who is better? Berg seems technically naive. Even yesterday when Formica came off why did,nt he bring on Vukevic instead of playing Nunes in wrong position>>
[quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Joey99[/bold] wrote: The defence has been a problem for ages now, with subsequent managers doing nothing about it. We should have got a CB or two in in the loan window[/p][/quote]Yes we should but Venkys won't pay the wages. Didn't Black want to bring in a player from Stoke but Venkys wouldn't sanction it ?[/p][/quote]The team dont play in first half. They only turn up in second half. If management/Berg cannot sort it out what can Venkys do? We have a few strikers so why get another striker, we need defender with presence and fight in him. Why is Berg not playing Givet who is better? Berg seems technically naive. Even yesterday when Formica came off why did,nt he bring on Vukevic instead of playing Nunes in wrong position>> moh

5:38pm Sat 8 Dec 12

moh says...

maggie-T wrote:
We could have defended better, No sh!t Sherlock !!
Keep up the good work agent berg
Burnley lost today, poor defending again.
[quote][p][bold]maggie-T[/bold] wrote: We could have defended better, No sh!t Sherlock !! Keep up the good work agent berg[/p][/quote]Burnley lost today, poor defending again. moh

5:38pm Sat 8 Dec 12

Angry From Accrington says...

A Darener wrote:
Until it is mathematically impossible to get promoted then we cannot say that Berg is a failure. Just give him a chance. Nothing could be worse than still having Kean as manager.
Ring your doctor for an appointment now. They will get very busy in the lead up to Christmas and psychiatric treatment is always difficult to secure.
[quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: Until it is mathematically impossible to get promoted then we cannot say that Berg is a failure. Just give him a chance. Nothing could be worse than still having Kean as manager.[/p][/quote]Ring your doctor for an appointment now. They will get very busy in the lead up to Christmas and psychiatric treatment is always difficult to secure. Angry From Accrington

5:39pm Sat 8 Dec 12

katrew says...

A Darener wrote:
Until it is mathematically impossible to get promoted then we cannot say that Berg is a failure. Just give him a chance. Nothing could be worse than still having Kean as manager.
I'm not so sure we might just be entering the twilight zone.
Venky's out
[quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: Until it is mathematically impossible to get promoted then we cannot say that Berg is a failure. Just give him a chance. Nothing could be worse than still having Kean as manager.[/p][/quote]I'm not so sure we might just be entering the twilight zone. Venky's out katrew

5:51pm Sat 8 Dec 12

Rovers75 says...

penrithrover wrote:
Nuttall Street wrote:
Do you recall those happy days 2 years ago when the Walker Trust and Rob Coar sold out the club and Venkys took over, sacked BFS and appointed Steve Kean? What happened to those happy days when Ma Venky promised us the appointment of Ronaldhino, Beckham and Maradona and immediate entry to the Champions League. It didn't happen and so John Williams et al were swept away and The Global Adviser was appointed; but the goals kept being conceded and so Colin Hendry was appointed and it turned Into a torrent. What will the next disaster be? It is inevitably coming.
Good comment / Berg is heading for the axe , he will be the one that gets the push, losing his job and his credibility , but the defensive coach Hendry will definately keep his job whatever happens until Hendry pays the money back to the person he owes at Rovers, Black will probably keep his job , but its these two guys Hendry/Black that work with the players on a day to day basis , Berg should realise one thing either he ships these two out or he ships out himself , they are Keans drinking mates not Berg`s and they will not bother one iota if Berg gets shafted.
Very true - but I've a feeling Berg, unlike Kean, might well jump before he's pushed by those Indian parasites - meaning another soap opera in appointing his replacement.

I've tried to convince myself we can turn a corner under Berg and be positive but last night it was there for all to see the shambles that Rovers have become.

I've also tried to convince myself Venkys had learnt their lesson and were trying to put things right - how wrong was I? The heart and soul has been ripped out of the club by those w4nkers and until they sell, we can expect nothing other than misery. There was zero atmosphere last night, add that to the more than half empty ground (not just because of the Venkys disease that has riddled BRFC but TV, christmas etc) and we got what we deserved. Rovers fans just seem so edgy at Ewood. There's no trust and no hope whilst these germs own the club.

It's hardly any wonder those odd balls down the road are loving it. What Venkys have done to Rovers couldn't have been scripted any better than the most warped dingle.

Champions League, Beckham, Ronaldinho........

2 years on and we've been smashed at home 1-4 by Cardiff in front of 13,000. Dark days indeed. At least in the 80's we had some hope and little expectation.

VENKYS - the cancer of BRFC
[quote][p][bold]penrithrover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nuttall Street[/bold] wrote: Do you recall those happy days 2 years ago when the Walker Trust and Rob Coar sold out the club and Venkys took over, sacked BFS and appointed Steve Kean? What happened to those happy days when Ma Venky promised us the appointment of Ronaldhino, Beckham and Maradona and immediate entry to the Champions League. It didn't happen and so John Williams et al were swept away and The Global Adviser was appointed; but the goals kept being conceded and so Colin Hendry was appointed and it turned Into a torrent. What will the next disaster be? It is inevitably coming.[/p][/quote]Good comment / Berg is heading for the axe , he will be the one that gets the push, losing his job and his credibility , but the defensive coach Hendry will definately keep his job whatever happens until Hendry pays the money back to the person he owes at Rovers, Black will probably keep his job , but its these two guys Hendry/Black that work with the players on a day to day basis , Berg should realise one thing either he ships these two out or he ships out himself , they are Keans drinking mates not Berg`s and they will not bother one iota if Berg gets shafted.[/p][/quote]Very true - but I've a feeling Berg, unlike Kean, might well jump before he's pushed by those Indian parasites - meaning another soap opera in appointing his replacement. I've tried to convince myself we can turn a corner under Berg and be positive but last night it was there for all to see the shambles that Rovers have become. I've also tried to convince myself Venkys had learnt their lesson and were trying to put things right - how wrong was I? The heart and soul has been ripped out of the club by those w4nkers and until they sell, we can expect nothing other than misery. There was zero atmosphere last night, add that to the more than half empty ground (not just because of the Venkys disease that has riddled BRFC but TV, christmas etc) and we got what we deserved. Rovers fans just seem so edgy at Ewood. There's no trust and no hope whilst these germs own the club. It's hardly any wonder those odd balls down the road are loving it. What Venkys have done to Rovers couldn't have been scripted any better than the most warped dingle. Champions League, Beckham, Ronaldinho........ 2 years on and we've been smashed at home 1-4 by Cardiff in front of 13,000. Dark days indeed. At least in the 80's we had some hope and little expectation. VENKYS - the cancer of BRFC Rovers75

5:58pm Sat 8 Dec 12

Angry From Accrington says...

Would someone please tell us who is actually RUNNING this club? Is it Shebby the Snake, Agony Agnew or Shambolic Shaw? We really need to know who is really responsible for appointing Hendry and Berg and therefore who shoulders the responsibility for terminating their contracts immediately, whatever it costs.
Mark Hughes is now available, Ole Gunnar Soljkear always was if we had been prepared to wait a month.
The idiot Singh gave Berg a three year contract but immediately stated that nothing short of an immediate Premiership return would suffice. So why was he not given a one year contract with an option to extend?
Berg's team selection, tactics and motivation are woeful so the recent results are no surprise. To those of you who defend Berg by citing that he inherited the squad, just remind yourselves where we were in Kean's last game in charge.
Of course our defence is not good enough but whilst I accept that we might have few options Gael Givet is an obvious choice for either centre or full back. Henley and Lowe are lightweights and need to grow up in the reserves.
I could go on but it is pointless trying to talk selection or tactics when the root problem sits in the boardroom, not on the pitch. This Singh character has absolutely no experience, no qualifications, no credentials and no right to be anywhere near a Championship football club and if Agnew and Shaw can not stand up to him then they should also do the decent thing and step down.
I have actively supported this club for over 55 years and have had a season ticket for the last 33. I will not be using it again until Berg and Singh are removed.
Would someone please tell us who is actually RUNNING this club? Is it Shebby the Snake, Agony Agnew or Shambolic Shaw? We really need to know who is really responsible for appointing Hendry and Berg and therefore who shoulders the responsibility for terminating their contracts immediately, whatever it costs. Mark Hughes is now available, Ole Gunnar Soljkear always was if we had been prepared to wait a month. The idiot Singh gave Berg a three year contract but immediately stated that nothing short of an immediate Premiership return would suffice. So why was he not given a one year contract with an option to extend? Berg's team selection, tactics and motivation are woeful so the recent results are no surprise. To those of you who defend Berg by citing that he inherited the squad, just remind yourselves where we were in Kean's last game in charge. Of course our defence is not good enough but whilst I accept that we might have few options Gael Givet is an obvious choice for either centre or full back. Henley and Lowe are lightweights and need to grow up in the reserves. I could go on but it is pointless trying to talk selection or tactics when the root problem sits in the boardroom, not on the pitch. This Singh character has absolutely no experience, no qualifications, no credentials and no right to be anywhere near a Championship football club and if Agnew and Shaw can not stand up to him then they should also do the decent thing and step down. I have actively supported this club for over 55 years and have had a season ticket for the last 33. I will not be using it again until Berg and Singh are removed. Angry From Accrington

6:00pm Sat 8 Dec 12

A Darener says...

Angry From Accrington wrote:
A Darener wrote:
Until it is mathematically impossible to get promoted then we cannot say that Berg is a failure. Just give him a chance. Nothing could be worse than still having Kean as manager.
Ring your doctor for an appointment now. They will get very busy in the lead up to Christmas and psychiatric treatment is always difficult to secure.
You should know!
[quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: Until it is mathematically impossible to get promoted then we cannot say that Berg is a failure. Just give him a chance. Nothing could be worse than still having Kean as manager.[/p][/quote]Ring your doctor for an appointment now. They will get very busy in the lead up to Christmas and psychiatric treatment is always difficult to secure.[/p][/quote]You should know! A Darener

6:04pm Sat 8 Dec 12

Angry From Accrington says...

A Darener wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
A Darener wrote: Until it is mathematically impossible to get promoted then we cannot say that Berg is a failure. Just give him a chance. Nothing could be worse than still having Kean as manager.
Ring your doctor for an appointment now. They will get very busy in the lead up to Christmas and psychiatric treatment is always difficult to secure.
You should know!
Yes, you are right...............
.......I AM a doctor.
[quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: Until it is mathematically impossible to get promoted then we cannot say that Berg is a failure. Just give him a chance. Nothing could be worse than still having Kean as manager.[/p][/quote]Ring your doctor for an appointment now. They will get very busy in the lead up to Christmas and psychiatric treatment is always difficult to secure.[/p][/quote]You should know![/p][/quote]Yes, you are right............... .......I AM a doctor. Angry From Accrington

6:09pm Sat 8 Dec 12

A Darener says...

You must be a GP then cos they know nowt!
You must be a GP then cos they know nowt! A Darener

6:15pm Sat 8 Dec 12

madrover says...

give berg the window to try and sort ths mess out . He needs seven new players to compliment the few decent ones we have left. I can handle being beat off good teams (cardiff aren't) but what hurts me was a lack of passion from a set of overpaid average mercenaries . HENDRY OUT BLACK OUT SINGH OUT
give berg the window to try and sort ths mess out . He needs seven new players to compliment the few decent ones we have left. I can handle being beat off good teams (cardiff aren't) but what hurts me was a lack of passion from a set of overpaid average mercenaries . HENDRY OUT BLACK OUT SINGH OUT madrover

6:16pm Sat 8 Dec 12

Angry From Accrington says...

A Darener wrote:
You must be a GP then cos they know nowt!
I'm a tree doctor..............
........make an appointment, you sound wooden enough.
[quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: You must be a GP then cos they know nowt![/p][/quote]I'm a tree doctor.............. ........make an appointment, you sound wooden enough. Angry From Accrington

6:18pm Sat 8 Dec 12

MatthewCA says...

What else can we do to win games.

HB ask : Any better plan to teach blackburn players.

Bellamy shows and demonstate - Age is not the factor. Quality,pace and irritate the players with sweet smile and win the balls from there legs and shoot acurately in the post.

CKR,Rhodes,King,Roch
ina,Martin Ollson,Henley,Lowe,R
obbo. Other players I don't know wether they play 100% to win the games.
What else can we do to win games. HB ask : Any better plan to teach blackburn players. Bellamy shows and demonstate - Age is not the factor. Quality,pace and irritate the players with sweet smile and win the balls from there legs and shoot acurately in the post. CKR,Rhodes,King,Roch ina,Martin Ollson,Henley,Lowe,R obbo. Other players I don't know wether they play 100% to win the games. MatthewCA

6:23pm Sat 8 Dec 12

A Darener says...

Angry From Accrington wrote:
A Darener wrote:
You must be a GP then cos they know nowt!
I'm a tree doctor..............

........make an appointment, you sound wooden enough.
That explains a lot...sawdust for brains!
[quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: You must be a GP then cos they know nowt![/p][/quote]I'm a tree doctor.............. ........make an appointment, you sound wooden enough.[/p][/quote]That explains a lot...sawdust for brains! A Darener

6:43pm Sat 8 Dec 12

Angry From Accrington says...

A Darener wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
A Darener wrote: You must be a GP then cos they know nowt!
I'm a tree doctor.............. ........make an appointment, you sound wooden enough.
That explains a lot...sawdust for brains!
Glad to help with your self prognosis
[quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: You must be a GP then cos they know nowt![/p][/quote]I'm a tree doctor.............. ........make an appointment, you sound wooden enough.[/p][/quote]That explains a lot...sawdust for brains![/p][/quote]Glad to help with your self prognosis Angry From Accrington

6:49pm Sat 8 Dec 12

A Darener says...

Angry From Accrington wrote:
A Darener wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
A Darener wrote: You must be a GP then cos they know nowt!
I'm a tree doctor.............. ........make an appointment, you sound wooden enough.
That explains a lot...sawdust for brains!
Glad to help with your self prognosis
I think you mean diagnosis. Glad to help!
[quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: You must be a GP then cos they know nowt![/p][/quote]I'm a tree doctor.............. ........make an appointment, you sound wooden enough.[/p][/quote]That explains a lot...sawdust for brains![/p][/quote]Glad to help with your self prognosis[/p][/quote]I think you mean diagnosis. Glad to help! A Darener

7:02pm Sat 8 Dec 12

happiness says...

'We didn't defend well enough, admits Blackburn Rovers boss'. Really? Wwas it just last night then Henning?? I don't think so! The biggest culprit for me at the moment in that department and despite all Dann's failings of which there are many; (as well as £8000 a week Hendry. Shame on all those at Turf Moor who encouraged him) is Martin Olsson. He is currently my number one choice for prima-dona of the season so far. Didn't get the big move he thought he was good enough to command, he's now stuck in a struggling championship side and from my seat in the riverside I watch and cringe every home game at the alarming regularity at which he gets beaten to the ball, loses the ball and worse of all, allows crosses to enter the box on his side. I've been saying it for ages now, play him on the wing in place of the other equally useless olsson or dump him in the reserves for a nice long spell, long enough for him to re-**** how **** lucky he is to be earning more in a week than most of us paying his wages do in two years.
'We didn't defend well enough, admits Blackburn Rovers boss'. Really? Wwas it just last night then Henning?? I don't think so! The biggest culprit for me at the moment in that department and despite all Dann's failings of which there are many; (as well as £8000 a week Hendry. Shame on all those at Turf Moor who encouraged him) is Martin Olsson. He is currently my number one choice for prima-dona of the season so far. Didn't get the big move he thought he was good enough to command, he's now stuck in a struggling championship side and from my seat in the riverside I watch and cringe every home game at the alarming regularity at which he gets beaten to the ball, loses the ball and worse of all, allows crosses to enter the box on his side. I've been saying it for ages now, play him on the wing in place of the other equally useless olsson or dump him in the reserves for a nice long spell, long enough for him to re-**** how **** lucky he is to be earning more in a week than most of us paying his wages do in two years. happiness

7:10pm Sat 8 Dec 12

J.C - Rishton says...

madrover wrote:
give berg the window to try and sort ths mess out . He needs seven new players to compliment the few decent ones we have left. I can handle being beat off good teams (cardiff aren't) but what hurts me was a lack of passion from a set of overpaid average mercenaries . HENDRY OUT BLACK OUT SINGH OUT
I agree with alot you say but I'm sorry I really don't think you can say - "Cardiff arnt a good team".

They've just put 4 past us at Ewood

They have won 10 out of 10 league games at home.

They are top of the league.

Christ, I wish we were as bad as them !
[quote][p][bold]madrover[/bold] wrote: give berg the window to try and sort ths mess out . He needs seven new players to compliment the few decent ones we have left. I can handle being beat off good teams (cardiff aren't) but what hurts me was a lack of passion from a set of overpaid average mercenaries . HENDRY OUT BLACK OUT SINGH OUT[/p][/quote]I agree with alot you say but I'm sorry I really don't think you can say - "Cardiff arnt a good team". They've just put 4 past us at Ewood They have won 10 out of 10 league games at home. They are top of the league. Christ, I wish we were as bad as them ! J.C - Rishton

7:18pm Sat 8 Dec 12

Nuttall Street says...

Rovers75 wrote:
penrithrover wrote:
Nuttall Street wrote:
Do you recall those happy days 2 years ago when the Walker Trust and Rob Coar sold out the club and Venkys took over, sacked BFS and appointed Steve Kean? What happened to those happy days when Ma Venky promised us the appointment of Ronaldhino, Beckham and Maradona and immediate entry to the Champions League. It didn't happen and so John Williams et al were swept away and The Global Adviser was appointed; but the goals kept being conceded and so Colin Hendry was appointed and it turned Into a torrent. What will the next disaster be? It is inevitably coming.
Good comment / Berg is heading for the axe , he will be the one that gets the push, losing his job and his credibility , but the defensive coach Hendry will definately keep his job whatever happens until Hendry pays the money back to the person he owes at Rovers, Black will probably keep his job , but its these two guys Hendry/Black that work with the players on a day to day basis , Berg should realise one thing either he ships these two out or he ships out himself , they are Keans drinking mates not Berg`s and they will not bother one iota if Berg gets shafted.
Very true - but I've a feeling Berg, unlike Kean, might well jump before he's pushed by those Indian parasites - meaning another soap opera in appointing his replacement.

I've tried to convince myself we can turn a corner under Berg and be positive but last night it was there for all to see the shambles that Rovers have become.

I've also tried to convince myself Venkys had learnt their lesson and were trying to put things right - how wrong was I? The heart and soul has been ripped out of the club by those w4nkers and until they sell, we can expect nothing other than misery. There was zero atmosphere last night, add that to the more than half empty ground (not just because of the Venkys disease that has riddled BRFC but TV, christmas etc) and we got what we deserved. Rovers fans just seem so edgy at Ewood. There's no trust and no hope whilst these germs own the club.

It's hardly any wonder those odd balls down the road are loving it. What Venkys have done to Rovers couldn't have been scripted any better than the most warped dingle.

Champions League, Beckham, Ronaldinho........

2 years on and we've been smashed at home 1-4 by Cardiff in front of 13,000. Dark days indeed. At least in the 80's we had some hope and little expectation.

VENKYS - the cancer of BRFC
Venkys did so much damage to Rovers so quickly that what we are witnessing now is the club still falling to find it's right level. Unfortunately, it's right level under these owners is in League One. No club that throws away it's assets (BFS, John Williams, numerous players) and replaces them with liabilities (Steve Kean, The Global Adviser, Colin Hendry, Henning Berg, David Goodwillie, Scott Dann, Dickson and Danny) cannot survive in the Championship. It's just too testing a league. So Rovers are still falling and will not find equilibrium until they have been relegated again. Tragic, but inevitable.
[quote][p][bold]Rovers75[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]penrithrover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nuttall Street[/bold] wrote: Do you recall those happy days 2 years ago when the Walker Trust and Rob Coar sold out the club and Venkys took over, sacked BFS and appointed Steve Kean? What happened to those happy days when Ma Venky promised us the appointment of Ronaldhino, Beckham and Maradona and immediate entry to the Champions League. It didn't happen and so John Williams et al were swept away and The Global Adviser was appointed; but the goals kept being conceded and so Colin Hendry was appointed and it turned Into a torrent. What will the next disaster be? It is inevitably coming.[/p][/quote]Good comment / Berg is heading for the axe , he will be the one that gets the push, losing his job and his credibility , but the defensive coach Hendry will definately keep his job whatever happens until Hendry pays the money back to the person he owes at Rovers, Black will probably keep his job , but its these two guys Hendry/Black that work with the players on a day to day basis , Berg should realise one thing either he ships these two out or he ships out himself , they are Keans drinking mates not Berg`s and they will not bother one iota if Berg gets shafted.[/p][/quote]Very true - but I've a feeling Berg, unlike Kean, might well jump before he's pushed by those Indian parasites - meaning another soap opera in appointing his replacement. I've tried to convince myself we can turn a corner under Berg and be positive but last night it was there for all to see the shambles that Rovers have become. I've also tried to convince myself Venkys had learnt their lesson and were trying to put things right - how wrong was I? The heart and soul has been ripped out of the club by those w4nkers and until they sell, we can expect nothing other than misery. There was zero atmosphere last night, add that to the more than half empty ground (not just because of the Venkys disease that has riddled BRFC but TV, christmas etc) and we got what we deserved. Rovers fans just seem so edgy at Ewood. There's no trust and no hope whilst these germs own the club. It's hardly any wonder those odd balls down the road are loving it. What Venkys have done to Rovers couldn't have been scripted any better than the most warped dingle. Champions League, Beckham, Ronaldinho........ 2 years on and we've been smashed at home 1-4 by Cardiff in front of 13,000. Dark days indeed. At least in the 80's we had some hope and little expectation. VENKYS - the cancer of BRFC[/p][/quote]Venkys did so much damage to Rovers so quickly that what we are witnessing now is the club still falling to find it's right level. Unfortunately, it's right level under these owners is in League One. No club that throws away it's assets (BFS, John Williams, numerous players) and replaces them with liabilities (Steve Kean, The Global Adviser, Colin Hendry, Henning Berg, David Goodwillie, Scott Dann, Dickson and Danny) cannot survive in the Championship. It's just too testing a league. So Rovers are still falling and will not find equilibrium until they have been relegated again. Tragic, but inevitable. Nuttall Street

7:19pm Sat 8 Dec 12

A Darener says...

It is no good saying this player is no good, that player is no good. We are stuck with them. What needs to happen is Henning and his staff need to train them how to win football matches. They are all professional footballers most of whom have vast experience, so they need to put it to good use. They need to play to a plan, not run around like headless Venky chickens. They need to study how the teams at the top of their games play. How to pass, preferably forwards, how to track back and get behind the ball at times of pressure. Just wildly kicking the ball away as happened on Friday is not the answer. The ball will just come straight back. The forwards need the ball to feet not with their backs to goal. We need the wingers to practice crossing the ball from the byline not from inside their own half. Perhaps a practice match behind closed doors with Man U might help, that way they can see how proper footballers do it. And Henning can learn from Sir Alex.
It is no good saying this player is no good, that player is no good. We are stuck with them. What needs to happen is Henning and his staff need to train them how to win football matches. They are all professional footballers most of whom have vast experience, so they need to put it to good use. They need to play to a plan, not run around like headless Venky chickens. They need to study how the teams at the top of their games play. How to pass, preferably forwards, how to track back and get behind the ball at times of pressure. Just wildly kicking the ball away as happened on Friday is not the answer. The ball will just come straight back. The forwards need the ball to feet not with their backs to goal. We need the wingers to practice crossing the ball from the byline not from inside their own half. Perhaps a practice match behind closed doors with Man U might help, that way they can see how proper footballers do it. And Henning can learn from Sir Alex. A Darener

7:25pm Sat 8 Dec 12

LanghoDAN says...

blueblooded wrote:
LanghoDAN wrote:
The club I once followed up to this shower taking over are on the verge off going down again, we're on earth are the owners and mr shebby lover lover, we have not heard nothing from her over in India or the brothers once, since there bum boy departed in the dodgy sunset, it funny as mr shing was on every sporting channel when hiring and looking for a new manager we couldn't get enought if him, but now dose he even Exist anymore, if nothing is done to this club it's by by Blackburn rovers forever, the owners do they give a dam about what really happens to us as they have made enought money to **** off,I'm afraid the supporters are being fooled by watching this crap club, I noticed on sky sports news scarves and banners being thrown onto the pitch again last night, but there's the ones who have committed to watching and contributing to the ruining of the club
Out with venkys
Berg
Hendry
And the supporters
Bullcr@p glory hunter.

You know, I know and everyone knows it wouldn't matter who owned the club or which bunch of nasties sat in the boardroom. If miraculously we found our firm and started to win, you tin pot stay aways would be there waving your flags as if you'd never been away.

Get bring the team or stay away for ever made, your choice, but don't come on here brandishing the real fans who know bad times and good times are to be had but the team still needs support and the real supporters will still be there . You think it's easy attending games in the last few years knowing what we know and knowing a crushing defeat is much more likely than a win? Do you think it's enjoyable?

You're almost as bad as the dingles with your disgraceful attack of real fans. Shame on you.
We're have you got your comments from I'm no hippocrite I'm a true supporter of rovers through thick and thin in early eighties when we were down in third and second division,but the fans needs to realise that the owners will be laughing all the way to the bank when they have robbed us blind, iv stopped going to rovers as I can't stand the fact that we were once a top flight club in a. Suitable postion and now were down in the championship, I'm a very close friend of mr Finn who's close to mr Williams, who they know the real truth about the owners so bog off with your comments and cone back when we're down in the first division and sat sorry
[quote][p][bold]blueblooded[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LanghoDAN[/bold] wrote: The club I once followed up to this shower taking over are on the verge off going down again, we're on earth are the owners and mr shebby lover lover, we have not heard nothing from her over in India or the brothers once, since there bum boy departed in the dodgy sunset, it funny as mr shing was on every sporting channel when hiring and looking for a new manager we couldn't get enought if him, but now dose he even Exist anymore, if nothing is done to this club it's by by Blackburn rovers forever, the owners do they give a dam about what really happens to us as they have made enought money to **** off,I'm afraid the supporters are being fooled by watching this crap club, I noticed on sky sports news scarves and banners being thrown onto the pitch again last night, but there's the ones who have committed to watching and contributing to the ruining of the club Out with venkys Berg Hendry And the supporters[/p][/quote]Bullcr@p glory hunter. You know, I know and everyone knows it wouldn't matter who owned the club or which bunch of nasties sat in the boardroom. If miraculously we found our firm and started to win, you tin pot stay aways would be there waving your flags as if you'd never been away. Get bring the team or stay away for ever made, your choice, but don't come on here brandishing the real fans who know bad times and good times are to be had but the team still needs support and the real supporters will still be there . You think it's easy attending games in the last few years knowing what we know and knowing a crushing defeat is much more likely than a win? Do you think it's enjoyable? You're almost as bad as the dingles with your disgraceful attack of real fans. Shame on you.[/p][/quote]We're have you got your comments from I'm no hippocrite I'm a true supporter of rovers through thick and thin in early eighties when we were down in third and second division,but the fans needs to realise that the owners will be laughing all the way to the bank when they have robbed us blind, iv stopped going to rovers as I can't stand the fact that we were once a top flight club in a. Suitable postion and now were down in the championship, I'm a very close friend of mr Finn who's close to mr Williams, who they know the real truth about the owners so bog off with your comments and cone back when we're down in the first division and sat sorry LanghoDAN

7:28pm Sat 8 Dec 12

Nuttall Street says...

A Darener wrote:
It is no good saying this player is no good, that player is no good. We are stuck with them. What needs to happen is Henning and his staff need to train them how to win football matches. They are all professional footballers most of whom have vast experience, so they need to put it to good use. They need to play to a plan, not run around like headless Venky chickens. They need to study how the teams at the top of their games play. How to pass, preferably forwards, how to track back and get behind the ball at times of pressure. Just wildly kicking the ball away as happened on Friday is not the answer. The ball will just come straight back. The forwards need the ball to feet not with their backs to goal. We need the wingers to practice crossing the ball from the byline not from inside their own half. Perhaps a practice match behind closed doors with Man U might help, that way they can see how proper footballers do it. And Henning can learn from Sir Alex.
The way things are going with attendances, Darener, they won't have to bother closing the doors!
[quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: It is no good saying this player is no good, that player is no good. We are stuck with them. What needs to happen is Henning and his staff need to train them how to win football matches. They are all professional footballers most of whom have vast experience, so they need to put it to good use. They need to play to a plan, not run around like headless Venky chickens. They need to study how the teams at the top of their games play. How to pass, preferably forwards, how to track back and get behind the ball at times of pressure. Just wildly kicking the ball away as happened on Friday is not the answer. The ball will just come straight back. The forwards need the ball to feet not with their backs to goal. We need the wingers to practice crossing the ball from the byline not from inside their own half. Perhaps a practice match behind closed doors with Man U might help, that way they can see how proper footballers do it. And Henning can learn from Sir Alex.[/p][/quote]The way things are going with attendances, Darener, they won't have to bother closing the doors! Nuttall Street

7:30pm Sat 8 Dec 12

whittaker0 says...

In truth this is a very poor side. The team has little balance and heavy in some areas and non existent in others .In my mind it really has confirmed to me how awful Steve Kean was; utterly hopeless. Henning Berg is doing his best with a poor group of players. I do remember though how poor the Rovers were when Mark Hughes first took over; the team were totally demotivated and equally poor and yet within a short period of time Mark Hughes change it; I am sure Henning Berg will do the same. I would be absolutely delighted to see Brad Friedel here again, I think he would impose authority and organisation to the defence which at the moment is non existent.
In truth this is a very poor side. The team has little balance and heavy in some areas and non existent in others .In my mind it really has confirmed to me how awful Steve Kean was; utterly hopeless. Henning Berg is doing his best with a poor group of players. I do remember though how poor the Rovers were when Mark Hughes first took over; the team were totally demotivated and equally poor and yet within a short period of time Mark Hughes change it; I am sure Henning Berg will do the same. I would be absolutely delighted to see Brad Friedel here again, I think he would impose authority and organisation to the defence which at the moment is non existent. whittaker0

7:33pm Sat 8 Dec 12

Rovers75 says...

Nuttall Street wrote:
Rovers75 wrote:
penrithrover wrote:
Nuttall Street wrote:
Do you recall those happy days 2 years ago when the Walker Trust and Rob Coar sold out the club and Venkys took over, sacked BFS and appointed Steve Kean? What happened to those happy days when Ma Venky promised us the appointment of Ronaldhino, Beckham and Maradona and immediate entry to the Champions League. It didn't happen and so John Williams et al were swept away and The Global Adviser was appointed; but the goals kept being conceded and so Colin Hendry was appointed and it turned Into a torrent. What will the next disaster be? It is inevitably coming.
Good comment / Berg is heading for the axe , he will be the one that gets the push, losing his job and his credibility , but the defensive coach Hendry will definately keep his job whatever happens until Hendry pays the money back to the person he owes at Rovers, Black will probably keep his job , but its these two guys Hendry/Black that work with the players on a day to day basis , Berg should realise one thing either he ships these two out or he ships out himself , they are Keans drinking mates not Berg`s and they will not bother one iota if Berg gets shafted.
Very true - but I've a feeling Berg, unlike Kean, might well jump before he's pushed by those Indian parasites - meaning another soap opera in appointing his replacement.

I've tried to convince myself we can turn a corner under Berg and be positive but last night it was there for all to see the shambles that Rovers have become.

I've also tried to convince myself Venkys had learnt their lesson and were trying to put things right - how wrong was I? The heart and soul has been ripped out of the club by those w4nkers and until they sell, we can expect nothing other than misery. There was zero atmosphere last night, add that to the more than half empty ground (not just because of the Venkys disease that has riddled BRFC but TV, christmas etc) and we got what we deserved. Rovers fans just seem so edgy at Ewood. There's no trust and no hope whilst these germs own the club.

It's hardly any wonder those odd balls down the road are loving it. What Venkys have done to Rovers couldn't have been scripted any better than the most warped dingle.

Champions League, Beckham, Ronaldinho........

2 years on and we've been smashed at home 1-4 by Cardiff in front of 13,000. Dark days indeed. At least in the 80's we had some hope and little expectation.

VENKYS - the cancer of BRFC
Venkys did so much damage to Rovers so quickly that what we are witnessing now is the club still falling to find it's right level. Unfortunately, it's right level under these owners is in League One. No club that throws away it's assets (BFS, John Williams, numerous players) and replaces them with liabilities (Steve Kean, The Global Adviser, Colin Hendry, Henning Berg, David Goodwillie, Scott Dann, Dickson and Danny) cannot survive in the Championship. It's just too testing a league. So Rovers are still falling and will not find equilibrium until they have been relegated again. Tragic, but inevitable.
You could well be right and bigger or similar sized clubs have fallen into League 1 such as Leeds, Weds, Forest, Southampton, Sheff Utd etc.

It's desperate mate, so very desperate.

I'd love to think Hughsey would come in and sort this mess out before things get even worse. Bergs reputation would be tarnished but there's no room for sentiment I'm afraid because the clubs in turmoil.

Question is would Hughsey want to come back and would he work under those clowns? I very much doubt it......
[quote][p][bold]Nuttall Street[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rovers75[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]penrithrover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nuttall Street[/bold] wrote: Do you recall those happy days 2 years ago when the Walker Trust and Rob Coar sold out the club and Venkys took over, sacked BFS and appointed Steve Kean? What happened to those happy days when Ma Venky promised us the appointment of Ronaldhino, Beckham and Maradona and immediate entry to the Champions League. It didn't happen and so John Williams et al were swept away and The Global Adviser was appointed; but the goals kept being conceded and so Colin Hendry was appointed and it turned Into a torrent. What will the next disaster be? It is inevitably coming.[/p][/quote]Good comment / Berg is heading for the axe , he will be the one that gets the push, losing his job and his credibility , but the defensive coach Hendry will definately keep his job whatever happens until Hendry pays the money back to the person he owes at Rovers, Black will probably keep his job , but its these two guys Hendry/Black that work with the players on a day to day basis , Berg should realise one thing either he ships these two out or he ships out himself , they are Keans drinking mates not Berg`s and they will not bother one iota if Berg gets shafted.[/p][/quote]Very true - but I've a feeling Berg, unlike Kean, might well jump before he's pushed by those Indian parasites - meaning another soap opera in appointing his replacement. I've tried to convince myself we can turn a corner under Berg and be positive but last night it was there for all to see the shambles that Rovers have become. I've also tried to convince myself Venkys had learnt their lesson and were trying to put things right - how wrong was I? The heart and soul has been ripped out of the club by those w4nkers and until they sell, we can expect nothing other than misery. There was zero atmosphere last night, add that to the more than half empty ground (not just because of the Venkys disease that has riddled BRFC but TV, christmas etc) and we got what we deserved. Rovers fans just seem so edgy at Ewood. There's no trust and no hope whilst these germs own the club. It's hardly any wonder those odd balls down the road are loving it. What Venkys have done to Rovers couldn't have been scripted any better than the most warped dingle. Champions League, Beckham, Ronaldinho........ 2 years on and we've been smashed at home 1-4 by Cardiff in front of 13,000. Dark days indeed. At least in the 80's we had some hope and little expectation. VENKYS - the cancer of BRFC[/p][/quote]Venkys did so much damage to Rovers so quickly that what we are witnessing now is the club still falling to find it's right level. Unfortunately, it's right level under these owners is in League One. No club that throws away it's assets (BFS, John Williams, numerous players) and replaces them with liabilities (Steve Kean, The Global Adviser, Colin Hendry, Henning Berg, David Goodwillie, Scott Dann, Dickson and Danny) cannot survive in the Championship. It's just too testing a league. So Rovers are still falling and will not find equilibrium until they have been relegated again. Tragic, but inevitable.[/p][/quote]You could well be right and bigger or similar sized clubs have fallen into League 1 such as Leeds, Weds, Forest, Southampton, Sheff Utd etc. It's desperate mate, so very desperate. I'd love to think Hughsey would come in and sort this mess out before things get even worse. Bergs reputation would be tarnished but there's no room for sentiment I'm afraid because the clubs in turmoil. Question is would Hughsey want to come back and would he work under those clowns? I very much doubt it...... Rovers75

7:36pm Sat 8 Dec 12

Antrobian says...

I've been a Rovers fan all my life, first match I saw was in 1955 when we beat Middlesborough 9-0 in the old Div2. I cannot ever remembering feeling as disillusioned as I do now. In the past there has always been faith in the ownership and running of the club irrespective of finances and even in the 3rd tier 30 years ago there was still confidence that our stay would we shortlived and it was. Two years ago the then Rovers' club doctor, who is a good friend of mine told me that from the minute Venky's bought the club things just fell apart at all levels with no organisation etc. He moved on to another Premier league club when the opportunity arose as he was appalled at the ousting out of John Williams who served Rovers well over the years.
It seems they are still totally disorganised with little knowledge of the game in this country and their appointments demonstrate this. God knows what the finances are likely to be in the next 12-18 months. We must be haemorrhaging money at quite a rate. If Berg has not turned it around by end of Jan. the writing is on the wall for further decline. I would support Hughes in now!
I've been a Rovers fan all my life, first match I saw was in 1955 when we beat Middlesborough 9-0 in the old Div2. I cannot ever remembering feeling as disillusioned as I do now. In the past there has always been faith in the ownership and running of the club irrespective of finances and even in the 3rd tier 30 years ago there was still confidence that our stay would we shortlived and it was. Two years ago the then Rovers' club doctor, who is a good friend of mine told me that from the minute Venky's bought the club things just fell apart at all levels with no organisation etc. He moved on to another Premier league club when the opportunity arose as he was appalled at the ousting out of John Williams who served Rovers well over the years. It seems they are still totally disorganised with little knowledge of the game in this country and their appointments demonstrate this. God knows what the finances are likely to be in the next 12-18 months. We must be haemorrhaging money at quite a rate. If Berg has not turned it around by end of Jan. the writing is on the wall for further decline. I would support Hughes in now! Antrobian

7:37pm Sat 8 Dec 12

pepperpot2296 says...

Desperate (Scott) DANN has got to be the worst central defender in all four divisions,his positional sense,heading ability,tackling ability and general all round lack of ability has stood out from the day he came,he is one of the many reason we have such a poor defence.All the fans can see this but not the coaching staff of experts! Hendry/Black.Clear out your backroom staff HB and do it your way,then we might see what you are made of.There has got to be a player clear out asap,this team is mediocre at best, bordering on very poor.
Desperate (Scott) DANN has got to be the worst central defender in all four divisions,his positional sense,heading ability,tackling ability and general all round lack of ability has stood out from the day he came,he is one of the many reason we have such a poor defence.All the fans can see this but not the coaching staff of experts! Hendry/Black.Clear out your backroom staff HB and do it your way,then we might see what you are made of.There has got to be a player clear out asap,this team is mediocre at best, bordering on very poor. pepperpot2296

7:49pm Sat 8 Dec 12

Nuttall Street says...

One thing I can guarrantee is that The Global Adviser will read this site. People like him. Are always obsessed with the publicity they get. Is it possible that if everybody got on here with a comment on what they think about Shabby then he might get depressed enough to do the decent thing!
One thing I can guarrantee is that The Global Adviser will read this site. People like him. Are always obsessed with the publicity they get. Is it possible that if everybody got on here with a comment on what they think about Shabby then he might get depressed enough to do the decent thing! Nuttall Street

8:52pm Sat 8 Dec 12

JPainter90 says...

There were many things we didn't do well. Same old, same old. I felt we were the better side from the start of the second half to them getting their second. However, a 15 minute spell isn't going to get us promoted.

We need some wise signings in January and coaching staff to get this bunch of lazy b******s into shape. Our team really isn't that bad. Out of balance yes, but the ability is there as we show for brief spells. Some players are simply poor but there is enough there to make a good team with a few good signings. We need some proper coaching to get them turning brief spells into two 45 minute halves.
There were many things we didn't do well. Same old, same old. I felt we were the better side from the start of the second half to them getting their second. However, a 15 minute spell isn't going to get us promoted. We need some wise signings in January and coaching staff to get this bunch of lazy b******s into shape. Our team really isn't that bad. Out of balance yes, but the ability is there as we show for brief spells. Some players are simply poor but there is enough there to make a good team with a few good signings. We need some proper coaching to get them turning brief spells into two 45 minute halves. JPainter90

9:30pm Sat 8 Dec 12

Bazzer says...

The big question for me at the moment my fellow Rovers fans is "Are there three clubs worse than us in this league?"
The big question for me at the moment my fellow Rovers fans is "Are there three clubs worse than us in this league?" Bazzer

9:32pm Sat 8 Dec 12

Old Alzheimer says...

I have a season ticket.
Anyone want to buy it cheap for the rest of the season ? :-)
I have a season ticket. Anyone want to buy it cheap for the rest of the season ? :-) Old Alzheimer

9:32pm Sat 8 Dec 12

blueblooded says...

LanghoDAN wrote:
blueblooded wrote:
LanghoDAN wrote:
The club I once followed up to this shower taking over are on the verge off going down again, we're on earth are the owners and mr shebby lover lover, we have not heard nothing from her over in India or the brothers once, since there bum boy departed in the dodgy sunset, it funny as mr shing was on every sporting channel when hiring and looking for a new manager we couldn't get enought if him, but now dose he even Exist anymore, if nothing is done to this club it's by by Blackburn rovers forever, the owners do they give a dam about what really happens to us as they have made enought money to **** off,I'm afraid the supporters are being fooled by watching this crap club, I noticed on sky sports news scarves and banners being thrown onto the pitch again last night, but there's the ones who have committed to watching and contributing to the ruining of the club
Out with venkys
Berg
Hendry
And the supporters
Bullcr@p glory hunter.

You know, I know and everyone knows it wouldn't matter who owned the club or which bunch of nasties sat in the boardroom. If miraculously we found our firm and started to win, you tin pot stay aways would be there waving your flags as if you'd never been away.

Get bring the team or stay away for ever made, your choice, but don't come on here brandishing the real fans who know bad times and good times are to be had but the team still needs support and the real supporters will still be there . You think it's easy attending games in the last few years knowing what we know and knowing a crushing defeat is much more likely than a win? Do you think it's enjoyable?

You're almost as bad as the dingles with your disgraceful attack of real fans. Shame on you.
We're have you got your comments from I'm no hippocrite I'm a true supporter of rovers through thick and thin in early eighties when we were down in third and second division,but the fans needs to realise that the owners will be laughing all the way to the bank when they have robbed us blind, iv stopped going to rovers as I can't stand the fact that we were once a top flight club in a. Suitable postion and now were down in the championship, I'm a very close friend of mr Finn who's close to mr Williams, who they know the real truth about the owners so bog off with your comments and cone back when we're down in the first division and sat sorry
Oh here we go again, been attending since we were div three, got friends yadda yadda... Isnt it strange that just about everyone without a clue or a reasonsble argument outside of "we were a premiership club" either has friends in the know or waffles on about how they were there in div three, usually with facts that could have as easily be found on Wikipedia or footy facts site.

You know what, it doesnt matter if you were there as the founding father of football, your team needs you now more than ever, but no, you'd rather we all spat our dummies out and boycotted in the hope that.. What?

Venkys sell up and leave? The club goes into administration and the deluded BRSIT bums can come in with their 3m of pledges and send us straight back to div 3 so you can relive the good old days?

We're in the championship. Our team needs our support.
[quote][p][bold]LanghoDAN[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]blueblooded[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LanghoDAN[/bold] wrote: The club I once followed up to this shower taking over are on the verge off going down again, we're on earth are the owners and mr shebby lover lover, we have not heard nothing from her over in India or the brothers once, since there bum boy departed in the dodgy sunset, it funny as mr shing was on every sporting channel when hiring and looking for a new manager we couldn't get enought if him, but now dose he even Exist anymore, if nothing is done to this club it's by by Blackburn rovers forever, the owners do they give a dam about what really happens to us as they have made enought money to **** off,I'm afraid the supporters are being fooled by watching this crap club, I noticed on sky sports news scarves and banners being thrown onto the pitch again last night, but there's the ones who have committed to watching and contributing to the ruining of the club Out with venkys Berg Hendry And the supporters[/p][/quote]Bullcr@p glory hunter. You know, I know and everyone knows it wouldn't matter who owned the club or which bunch of nasties sat in the boardroom. If miraculously we found our firm and started to win, you tin pot stay aways would be there waving your flags as if you'd never been away. Get bring the team or stay away for ever made, your choice, but don't come on here brandishing the real fans who know bad times and good times are to be had but the team still needs support and the real supporters will still be there . You think it's easy attending games in the last few years knowing what we know and knowing a crushing defeat is much more likely than a win? Do you think it's enjoyable? You're almost as bad as the dingles with your disgraceful attack of real fans. Shame on you.[/p][/quote]We're have you got your comments from I'm no hippocrite I'm a true supporter of rovers through thick and thin in early eighties when we were down in third and second division,but the fans needs to realise that the owners will be laughing all the way to the bank when they have robbed us blind, iv stopped going to rovers as I can't stand the fact that we were once a top flight club in a. Suitable postion and now were down in the championship, I'm a very close friend of mr Finn who's close to mr Williams, who they know the real truth about the owners so bog off with your comments and cone back when we're down in the first division and sat sorry[/p][/quote]Oh here we go again, been attending since we were div three, got friends yadda yadda... Isnt it strange that just about everyone without a clue or a reasonsble argument outside of "we were a premiership club" either has friends in the know or waffles on about how they were there in div three, usually with facts that could have as easily be found on Wikipedia or footy facts site. You know what, it doesnt matter if you were there as the founding father of football, your team needs you now more than ever, but no, you'd rather we all spat our dummies out and boycotted in the hope that.. What? Venkys sell up and leave? The club goes into administration and the deluded BRSIT bums can come in with their 3m of pledges and send us straight back to div 3 so you can relive the good old days? We're in the championship. Our team needs our support. blueblooded

9:47pm Sat 8 Dec 12

dangerous dave says...

There's quite a few who post on here that have'nt a clue in fact with very little commonsense and blueblooded is up at the top of the list!!!
OUT WITH SHAW AGNEW SINGH BLACK HENDRY AND MAYBE BERG
There's quite a few who post on here that have'nt a clue in fact with very little commonsense and blueblooded is up at the top of the list!!! OUT WITH SHAW AGNEW SINGH BLACK HENDRY AND MAYBE BERG dangerous dave

10:02pm Sat 8 Dec 12

Bazzer says...

blueblooded wrote:
LanghoDAN wrote:
blueblooded wrote:
LanghoDAN wrote: The club I once followed up to this shower taking over are on the verge off going down again, we're on earth are the owners and mr shebby lover lover, we have not heard nothing from her over in India or the brothers once, since there bum boy departed in the dodgy sunset, it funny as mr shing was on every sporting channel when hiring and looking for a new manager we couldn't get enought if him, but now dose he even Exist anymore, if nothing is done to this club it's by by Blackburn rovers forever, the owners do they give a dam about what really happens to us as they have made enought money to **** off,I'm afraid the supporters are being fooled by watching this crap club, I noticed on sky sports news scarves and banners being thrown onto the pitch again last night, but there's the ones who have committed to watching and contributing to the ruining of the club Out with venkys Berg Hendry And the supporters
Bullcr@p glory hunter. You know, I know and everyone knows it wouldn't matter who owned the club or which bunch of nasties sat in the boardroom. If miraculously we found our firm and started to win, you tin pot stay aways would be there waving your flags as if you'd never been away. Get bring the team or stay away for ever made, your choice, but don't come on here brandishing the real fans who know bad times and good times are to be had but the team still needs support and the real supporters will still be there . You think it's easy attending games in the last few years knowing what we know and knowing a crushing defeat is much more likely than a win? Do you think it's enjoyable? You're almost as bad as the dingles with your disgraceful attack of real fans. Shame on you.
We're have you got your comments from I'm no hippocrite I'm a true supporter of rovers through thick and thin in early eighties when we were down in third and second division,but the fans needs to realise that the owners will be laughing all the way to the bank when they have robbed us blind, iv stopped going to rovers as I can't stand the fact that we were once a top flight club in a. Suitable postion and now were down in the championship, I'm a very close friend of mr Finn who's close to mr Williams, who they know the real truth about the owners so bog off with your comments and cone back when we're down in the first division and sat sorry
Oh here we go again, been attending since we were div three, got friends yadda yadda... Isnt it strange that just about everyone without a clue or a reasonsble argument outside of "we were a premiership club" either has friends in the know or waffles on about how they were there in div three, usually with facts that could have as easily be found on Wikipedia or footy facts site. You know what, it doesnt matter if you were there as the founding father of football, your team needs you now more than ever, but no, you'd rather we all spat our dummies out and boycotted in the hope that.. What? Venkys sell up and leave? The club goes into administration and the deluded BRSIT bums can come in with their 3m of pledges and send us straight back to div 3 so you can relive the good old days? We're in the championship. Our team needs our support.
I can prove I was at The Gay Meadow when we got whipped by Salop 1-7. I retain the programme stained with my tears which can be both carbon dated and DNA tested. Another giveaway is a nervous tic which manifests itself whenever my wife hands out "Fruit Shrewsbury" biscuits with a cup of tea.
[quote][p][bold]blueblooded[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LanghoDAN[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]blueblooded[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LanghoDAN[/bold] wrote: The club I once followed up to this shower taking over are on the verge off going down again, we're on earth are the owners and mr shebby lover lover, we have not heard nothing from her over in India or the brothers once, since there bum boy departed in the dodgy sunset, it funny as mr shing was on every sporting channel when hiring and looking for a new manager we couldn't get enought if him, but now dose he even Exist anymore, if nothing is done to this club it's by by Blackburn rovers forever, the owners do they give a dam about what really happens to us as they have made enought money to **** off,I'm afraid the supporters are being fooled by watching this crap club, I noticed on sky sports news scarves and banners being thrown onto the pitch again last night, but there's the ones who have committed to watching and contributing to the ruining of the club Out with venkys Berg Hendry And the supporters[/p][/quote]Bullcr@p glory hunter. You know, I know and everyone knows it wouldn't matter who owned the club or which bunch of nasties sat in the boardroom. If miraculously we found our firm and started to win, you tin pot stay aways would be there waving your flags as if you'd never been away. Get bring the team or stay away for ever made, your choice, but don't come on here brandishing the real fans who know bad times and good times are to be had but the team still needs support and the real supporters will still be there . You think it's easy attending games in the last few years knowing what we know and knowing a crushing defeat is much more likely than a win? Do you think it's enjoyable? You're almost as bad as the dingles with your disgraceful attack of real fans. Shame on you.[/p][/quote]We're have you got your comments from I'm no hippocrite I'm a true supporter of rovers through thick and thin in early eighties when we were down in third and second division,but the fans needs to realise that the owners will be laughing all the way to the bank when they have robbed us blind, iv stopped going to rovers as I can't stand the fact that we were once a top flight club in a. Suitable postion and now were down in the championship, I'm a very close friend of mr Finn who's close to mr Williams, who they know the real truth about the owners so bog off with your comments and cone back when we're down in the first division and sat sorry[/p][/quote]Oh here we go again, been attending since we were div three, got friends yadda yadda... Isnt it strange that just about everyone without a clue or a reasonsble argument outside of "we were a premiership club" either has friends in the know or waffles on about how they were there in div three, usually with facts that could have as easily be found on Wikipedia or footy facts site. You know what, it doesnt matter if you were there as the founding father of football, your team needs you now more than ever, but no, you'd rather we all spat our dummies out and boycotted in the hope that.. What? Venkys sell up and leave? The club goes into administration and the deluded BRSIT bums can come in with their 3m of pledges and send us straight back to div 3 so you can relive the good old days? We're in the championship. Our team needs our support.[/p][/quote]I can prove I was at The Gay Meadow when we got whipped by Salop 1-7. I retain the programme stained with my tears which can be both carbon dated and DNA tested. Another giveaway is a nervous tic which manifests itself whenever my wife hands out "Fruit Shrewsbury" biscuits with a cup of tea. Bazzer

10:39pm Sat 8 Dec 12

French Rover says...

Bazzer wrote:
blueblooded wrote:
LanghoDAN wrote:
blueblooded wrote:
LanghoDAN wrote: The club I once followed up to this shower taking over are on the verge off going down again, we're on earth are the owners and mr shebby lover lover, we have not heard nothing from her over in India or the brothers once, since there bum boy departed in the dodgy sunset, it funny as mr shing was on every sporting channel when hiring and looking for a new manager we couldn't get enought if him, but now dose he even Exist anymore, if nothing is done to this club it's by by Blackburn rovers forever, the owners do they give a dam about what really happens to us as they have made enought money to **** off,I'm afraid the supporters are being fooled by watching this crap club, I noticed on sky sports news scarves and banners being thrown onto the pitch again last night, but there's the ones who have committed to watching and contributing to the ruining of the club Out with venkys Berg Hendry And the supporters
Bullcr@p glory hunter. You know, I know and everyone knows it wouldn't matter who owned the club or which bunch of nasties sat in the boardroom. If miraculously we found our firm and started to win, you tin pot stay aways would be there waving your flags as if you'd never been away. Get bring the team or stay away for ever made, your choice, but don't come on here brandishing the real fans who know bad times and good times are to be had but the team still needs support and the real supporters will still be there . You think it's easy attending games in the last few years knowing what we know and knowing a crushing defeat is much more likely than a win? Do you think it's enjoyable? You're almost as bad as the dingles with your disgraceful attack of real fans. Shame on you.
We're have you got your comments from I'm no hippocrite I'm a true supporter of rovers through thick and thin in early eighties when we were down in third and second division,but the fans needs to realise that the owners will be laughing all the way to the bank when they have robbed us blind, iv stopped going to rovers as I can't stand the fact that we were once a top flight club in a. Suitable postion and now were down in the championship, I'm a very close friend of mr Finn who's close to mr Williams, who they know the real truth about the owners so bog off with your comments and cone back when we're down in the first division and sat sorry
Oh here we go again, been attending since we were div three, got friends yadda yadda... Isnt it strange that just about everyone without a clue or a reasonsble argument outside of "we were a premiership club" either has friends in the know or waffles on about how they were there in div three, usually with facts that could have as easily be found on Wikipedia or footy facts site. You know what, it doesnt matter if you were there as the founding father of football, your team needs you now more than ever, but no, you'd rather we all spat our dummies out and boycotted in the hope that.. What? Venkys sell up and leave? The club goes into administration and the deluded BRSIT bums can come in with their 3m of pledges and send us straight back to div 3 so you can relive the good old days? We're in the championship. Our team needs our support.
I can prove I was at The Gay Meadow when we got whipped by Salop 1-7. I retain the programme stained with my tears which can be both carbon dated and DNA tested. Another giveaway is a nervous tic which manifests itself whenever my wife hands out "Fruit Shrewsbury" biscuits with a cup of tea.
did you go for a sail in the coracle though...? That is the true test of whether you went to Shrewsbury or not Bazzer :-)
[quote][p][bold]Bazzer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]blueblooded[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LanghoDAN[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]blueblooded[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LanghoDAN[/bold] wrote: The club I once followed up to this shower taking over are on the verge off going down again, we're on earth are the owners and mr shebby lover lover, we have not heard nothing from her over in India or the brothers once, since there bum boy departed in the dodgy sunset, it funny as mr shing was on every sporting channel when hiring and looking for a new manager we couldn't get enought if him, but now dose he even Exist anymore, if nothing is done to this club it's by by Blackburn rovers forever, the owners do they give a dam about what really happens to us as they have made enought money to **** off,I'm afraid the supporters are being fooled by watching this crap club, I noticed on sky sports news scarves and banners being thrown onto the pitch again last night, but there's the ones who have committed to watching and contributing to the ruining of the club Out with venkys Berg Hendry And the supporters[/p][/quote]Bullcr@p glory hunter. You know, I know and everyone knows it wouldn't matter who owned the club or which bunch of nasties sat in the boardroom. If miraculously we found our firm and started to win, you tin pot stay aways would be there waving your flags as if you'd never been away. Get bring the team or stay away for ever made, your choice, but don't come on here brandishing the real fans who know bad times and good times are to be had but the team still needs support and the real supporters will still be there . You think it's easy attending games in the last few years knowing what we know and knowing a crushing defeat is much more likely than a win? Do you think it's enjoyable? You're almost as bad as the dingles with your disgraceful attack of real fans. Shame on you.[/p][/quote]We're have you got your comments from I'm no hippocrite I'm a true supporter of rovers through thick and thin in early eighties when we were down in third and second division,but the fans needs to realise that the owners will be laughing all the way to the bank when they have robbed us blind, iv stopped going to rovers as I can't stand the fact that we were once a top flight club in a. Suitable postion and now were down in the championship, I'm a very close friend of mr Finn who's close to mr Williams, who they know the real truth about the owners so bog off with your comments and cone back when we're down in the first division and sat sorry[/p][/quote]Oh here we go again, been attending since we were div three, got friends yadda yadda... Isnt it strange that just about everyone without a clue or a reasonsble argument outside of "we were a premiership club" either has friends in the know or waffles on about how they were there in div three, usually with facts that could have as easily be found on Wikipedia or footy facts site. You know what, it doesnt matter if you were there as the founding father of football, your team needs you now more than ever, but no, you'd rather we all spat our dummies out and boycotted in the hope that.. What? Venkys sell up and leave? The club goes into administration and the deluded BRSIT bums can come in with their 3m of pledges and send us straight back to div 3 so you can relive the good old days? We're in the championship. Our team needs our support.[/p][/quote]I can prove I was at The Gay Meadow when we got whipped by Salop 1-7. I retain the programme stained with my tears which can be both carbon dated and DNA tested. Another giveaway is a nervous tic which manifests itself whenever my wife hands out "Fruit Shrewsbury" biscuits with a cup of tea.[/p][/quote]did you go for a sail in the coracle though...? That is the true test of whether you went to Shrewsbury or not Bazzer :-) French Rover

10:50pm Sat 8 Dec 12

Return of the Magnificent se7en says...

dangerous dave wrote:
totally wrong - look what he's done with the Ipswich team he inherited with no transfers in other then his own backroom staff - good solid Manager, motivator with sound managerial skills and knows his way around the Championship - we are now down to 13th and 18 points behind the leaders!!!
OUT WITH SHAW AGNEW SINGH BLACK HENDRY
Hello smell the coffee in your other disguise, you have been busted as he also touts mick banaman mcarthy, who if I'm not mistaken are below us in the league. BUSTED, and the guy also signed Bradley ordinary are you seriously suggesting that ORR was a good player?? No and you didn't when he was here. What about harping on about winless Arry, a guy you also wanted, he's been a real success hasn't he?
[quote][p][bold]dangerous dave[/bold] wrote: totally wrong - look what he's done with the Ipswich team he inherited with no transfers in other then his own backroom staff - good solid Manager, motivator with sound managerial skills and knows his way around the Championship - we are now down to 13th and 18 points behind the leaders!!! OUT WITH SHAW AGNEW SINGH BLACK HENDRY[/p][/quote]Hello smell the coffee in your other disguise, you have been busted as he also touts mick banaman mcarthy, who if I'm not mistaken are below us in the league. BUSTED, and the guy also signed Bradley ordinary are you seriously suggesting that ORR was a good player?? No and you didn't when he was here. What about harping on about winless Arry, a guy you also wanted, he's been a real success hasn't he? Return of the Magnificent se7en

12:16am Sun 9 Dec 12

Claretbob says...

OnePostThenTheOther wrote:
dorsetclaret wrote:
baz58 says...
5:42am Sat 8 Dec 12

God help us if we where still in the prem!
DOOMED DOOMED LMFAO
your for league 1
nay mind fleetwood not far
You stil couldn't beat our shower of sh8 on your own patch. How is Bumley's promotion push going? Or is just an obsession with your superiors that brings you on here?
Bast**ds superior to the Clarets!! in your dreams.

No more money than sense Jack.

No Walker family money.

No real support.

No hope
[quote][p][bold]OnePostThenTheOther[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dorsetclaret[/bold] wrote: baz58 says... 5:42am Sat 8 Dec 12 God help us if we where still in the prem! DOOMED DOOMED LMFAO your for league 1 nay mind fleetwood not far[/p][/quote]You stil couldn't beat our shower of sh8 on your own patch. How is Bumley's promotion push going? Or is just an obsession with your superiors that brings you on here?[/p][/quote]Bast**ds superior to the Clarets!! in your dreams. No more money than sense Jack. No Walker family money. No real support. No hope Claretbob

1:00am Sun 9 Dec 12

Angry From Accrington says...

A Darener wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
A Darener wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
A Darener wrote: You must be a GP then cos they know nowt!
I'm a tree doctor.............. ........make an appointment, you sound wooden enough.
That explains a lot...sawdust for brains!
Glad to help with your self prognosis
I think you mean diagnosis. Glad to help!
Ask Santa for a dictionary and read the difference between Diagnosis and Prognosis. Bringing this back to Blackburn Rovers level, the diagnosis is : dreadful leardeshship at the most senior level and terrible management at the point of execution. The prognosis is short term medoicracy and long term extinsion. Immediate surgery now to remove the SinghBregroticsm might just result in a more favourable outcome.
[quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: You must be a GP then cos they know nowt![/p][/quote]I'm a tree doctor.............. ........make an appointment, you sound wooden enough.[/p][/quote]That explains a lot...sawdust for brains![/p][/quote]Glad to help with your self prognosis[/p][/quote]I think you mean diagnosis. Glad to help![/p][/quote]Ask Santa for a dictionary and read the difference between Diagnosis and Prognosis. Bringing this back to Blackburn Rovers level, the diagnosis is : dreadful leardeshship at the most senior level and terrible management at the point of execution. The prognosis is short term medoicracy and long term extinsion. Immediate surgery now to remove the SinghBregroticsm might just result in a more favourable outcome. Angry From Accrington

1:14am Sun 9 Dec 12

Return of the Magnificent se7en says...

Claretbob wrote:
OnePostThenTheOther wrote:
dorsetclaret wrote:
baz58 says...
5:42am Sat 8 Dec 12

God help us if we where still in the prem!
DOOMED DOOMED LMFAO
your for league 1
nay mind fleetwood not far
You stil couldn't beat our shower of sh8 on your own patch. How is Bumley's promotion push going? Or is just an obsession with your superiors that brings you on here?
Bast**ds superior to the Clarets!! in your dreams.

No more money than sense Jack.

No Walker family money.

No real support.

No hope
No red bearded dick van dyke doin the ol bamboo either. Now appearing as madamme twanky this festive season with Charlie austin playing the dissappearing genie, flash in the pan gone in Jan and no hopers left behind all flash blinded and spiralling into oblivion.
Hhahahahahahahahahah
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[quote][p][bold]Claretbob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OnePostThenTheOther[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dorsetclaret[/bold] wrote: baz58 says... 5:42am Sat 8 Dec 12 God help us if we where still in the prem! DOOMED DOOMED LMFAO your for league 1 nay mind fleetwood not far[/p][/quote]You stil couldn't beat our shower of sh8 on your own patch. How is Bumley's promotion push going? Or is just an obsession with your superiors that brings you on here?[/p][/quote]Bast**ds superior to the Clarets!! in your dreams. No more money than sense Jack. No Walker family money. No real support. No hope[/p][/quote]No red bearded dick van dyke doin the ol bamboo either. Now appearing as madamme twanky this festive season with Charlie austin playing the dissappearing genie, flash in the pan gone in Jan and no hopers left behind all flash blinded and spiralling into oblivion. Hhahahahahahahahahah a Return of the Magnificent se7en

1:21am Sun 9 Dec 12

blazerafe says...

Scathing attack on Berg, especially considering that up until the second goal went in we were doing pretty well. How only one person has pointed out that Etuhu was to blame for the two goals is beyond me, did anybody actually watch the match. And to top it all off the shot with Dunn stood behind Berg speaks a thousand words. We all know what sort of respect Shebby has for players of age, he made the Pedersen comment and then took it back bringing it as a generalization, and now all of our oldest players with the most experience are being left out. Dunn, Gomes, Pedersen, Givet ect. The writings on the wall but not many seem to be able to see it, outside interference is clearly happening. I dont believe for a second that Berg a Norweigian himself who has worked in Norway for a few years now would leave out a fellow country man from his starting line up who clearly still has bags of ability. The only reason Murphy still gets to play is because we have no other CM's that are consistently healthy aside from Etuhu. Some of the blame also needs to fall with Robinson, he made 1 save the entire night when the ball was crossed straight to his chest. He pulled his hand away from the Belemy shot thinking it was going over and it hit the bar, he made no attempt to save any of the three goals with any real gusto and i can only think that its down to his age and reactions becoming pathetic.
You cannot polish a turd and this squad is what has been left from the previous regime, so for the love of all that is holy dont crap your pants and start with the Berg out rubbish yet, its a long season and hopefully Venkys can see that a fair bit of the blame should go on Singh, who should be axed and a proper management system put in place. Not only this but Bergs ins and outs will define the rest of our season so until February we need to hold fire on this negativity and hope that he replaces Dann, Hanley, Murpey, Etuhu and this outside interference stops.
Scathing attack on Berg, especially considering that up until the second goal went in we were doing pretty well. How only one person has pointed out that Etuhu was to blame for the two goals is beyond me, did anybody actually watch the match. And to top it all off the shot with Dunn stood behind Berg speaks a thousand words. We all know what sort of respect Shebby has for players of age, he made the Pedersen comment and then took it back bringing it as a generalization, and now all of our oldest players with the most experience are being left out. Dunn, Gomes, Pedersen, Givet ect. The writings on the wall but not many seem to be able to see it, outside interference is clearly happening. I dont believe for a second that Berg a Norweigian himself who has worked in Norway for a few years now would leave out a fellow country man from his starting line up who clearly still has bags of ability. The only reason Murphy still gets to play is because we have no other CM's that are consistently healthy aside from Etuhu. Some of the blame also needs to fall with Robinson, he made 1 save the entire night when the ball was crossed straight to his chest. He pulled his hand away from the Belemy shot thinking it was going over and it hit the bar, he made no attempt to save any of the three goals with any real gusto and i can only think that its down to his age and reactions becoming pathetic. You cannot polish a turd and this squad is what has been left from the previous regime, so for the love of all that is holy dont crap your pants and start with the Berg out rubbish yet, its a long season and hopefully Venkys can see that a fair bit of the blame should go on Singh, who should be axed and a proper management system put in place. Not only this but Bergs ins and outs will define the rest of our season so until February we need to hold fire on this negativity and hope that he replaces Dann, Hanley, Murpey, Etuhu and this outside interference stops. blazerafe

1:50am Sun 9 Dec 12

penrithrover says...

pepperpot2296 wrote:
Desperate (Scott) DANN has got to be the worst central defender in all four divisions,his positional sense,heading ability,tackling ability and general all round lack of ability has stood out from the day he came,he is one of the many reason we have such a poor defence.All the fans can see this but not the coaching staff of experts! Hendry/Black.Clear out your backroom staff HB and do it your way,then we might see what you are made of.There has got to be a player clear out asap,this team is mediocre at best, bordering on very poor.
Kean was the instigator of our downfall, but he was still not sacked he resigned , he brought in some poor overpaid players, he brought in a driver when Kean got convicted for drunk driving, his driver got the title defensive coach ,Hendry , when giving the job by Kean ,Hnedry`s quote was " I`m here to sort this defence out and to stop it leaking goals " a reputed 8k a week , both Black and Hendry came out and verbally abused the Rovers fans Black with his "Kean deserves a medal for what he has to put up with " and Hendry 'the majority of Rovers fans are behind Steven" comments by both of these crawlers that the Rovers fans do not forget , hence the need for changes , irrespective of the fact that Hendry % co are absolutely useless at their jobs, the way they turned on their own fans is a disgrace that they stayed in their jobs after Kean left , if they were honourable men and believed in their ars*licking Kean comments they made they would have left when Kean left,but particularly Hnedry is a dishonourable man.
Rovers will not by able to lift the doom and gloom till all of Keans drinking pals have left Rovers ,once we get rid of Hendry/Black we can bring in some positive support for Berg , we need to blow away tis dark cloud hanging over us ,and that is the prognosis.
But has Shebby the balls to do anything about it , has Shebby the balls to sack these two and bring in some decent coaching support for Berg , I THINK NOT !
[quote][p][bold]pepperpot2296[/bold] wrote: Desperate (Scott) DANN has got to be the worst central defender in all four divisions,his positional sense,heading ability,tackling ability and general all round lack of ability has stood out from the day he came,he is one of the many reason we have such a poor defence.All the fans can see this but not the coaching staff of experts! Hendry/Black.Clear out your backroom staff HB and do it your way,then we might see what you are made of.There has got to be a player clear out asap,this team is mediocre at best, bordering on very poor.[/p][/quote]Kean was the instigator of our downfall, but he was still not sacked he resigned , he brought in some poor overpaid players, he brought in a driver when Kean got convicted for drunk driving, his driver got the title defensive coach ,Hendry , when giving the job by Kean ,Hnedry`s quote was " I`m here to sort this defence out and to stop it leaking goals " a reputed 8k a week , both Black and Hendry came out and verbally abused the Rovers fans Black with his "Kean deserves a medal for what he has to put up with " and Hendry 'the majority of Rovers fans are behind Steven" comments by both of these crawlers that the Rovers fans do not forget , hence the need for changes , irrespective of the fact that Hendry % co are absolutely useless at their jobs, the way they turned on their own fans is a disgrace that they stayed in their jobs after Kean left , if they were honourable men and believed in their ars*licking Kean comments they made they would have left when Kean left,but particularly Hnedry is a dishonourable man. Rovers will not by able to lift the doom and gloom till all of Keans drinking pals have left Rovers ,once we get rid of Hendry/Black we can bring in some positive support for Berg , we need to blow away tis dark cloud hanging over us ,and that is the prognosis. But has Shebby the balls to do anything about it , has Shebby the balls to sack these two and bring in some decent coaching support for Berg , I THINK NOT ! penrithrover

3:46am Sun 9 Dec 12

Roverthere says...

A Darener wrote:
Until it is mathematically impossible to get promoted then we cannot say that Berg is a failure. Just give him a chance. Nothing could be worse than still having Kean as manager.
Don't you mean relegated?
[quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: Until it is mathematically impossible to get promoted then we cannot say that Berg is a failure. Just give him a chance. Nothing could be worse than still having Kean as manager.[/p][/quote]Don't you mean relegated? Roverthere

5:22am Sun 9 Dec 12

Roverthere says...

bluerob wrote:
Our fans have to take some responsibility in this, we were playing a good top of the league Cardiff team and the attendance was embarrassing.

The atmosphere was like a pre season friendly with a non league team, we need to be the 12th man and make it difficult for the opposition not like a kick around in the local park.

If you have any feelings for Blackburn Rovers I urge you to get back to Ewood and give your support to Berg and the team.

We can make a difference.
Live tv game, what do you expect! Clubs can't have it both ways.
[quote][p][bold]bluerob[/bold] wrote: Our fans have to take some responsibility in this, we were playing a good top of the league Cardiff team and the attendance was embarrassing. The atmosphere was like a pre season friendly with a non league team, we need to be the 12th man and make it difficult for the opposition not like a kick around in the local park. If you have any feelings for Blackburn Rovers I urge you to get back to Ewood and give your support to Berg and the team. We can make a difference.[/p][/quote]Live tv game, what do you expect! Clubs can't have it both ways. Roverthere

5:25am Sun 9 Dec 12

Roverthere says...

steralc wrote:
nil bye mouth wrote:
Fantastic work agent Berg , agent Kean was a tough act to follow but you have exceeded all our expectations with the great unwashed from fleawood park.Be prepared for the inevitable booing and derogatory comments from T`rovers fans. Take no notice they are a toothless gutless bunch who think the club is theirs but everyman and his dog knows its the chicken plucking venky boys who call all the shots at bollywood park, Clueless classless club IN VENKYS WE TRUST
Spot on fellow
But still above the never have beens!
[quote][p][bold]steralc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nil bye mouth[/bold] wrote: Fantastic work agent Berg , agent Kean was a tough act to follow but you have exceeded all our expectations with the great unwashed from fleawood park.Be prepared for the inevitable booing and derogatory comments from T`rovers fans. Take no notice they are a toothless gutless bunch who think the club is theirs but everyman and his dog knows its the chicken plucking venky boys who call all the shots at bollywood park, Clueless classless club IN VENKYS WE TRUST[/p][/quote]Spot on fellow[/p][/quote]But still above the never have beens! Roverthere

8:45am Sun 9 Dec 12

whappen says...

Return of the Magnificent se7en wrote:
dangerous dave wrote: totally wrong - look what he's done with the Ipswich team he inherited with no transfers in other then his own backroom staff - good solid Manager, motivator with sound managerial skills and knows his way around the Championship - we are now down to 13th and 18 points behind the leaders!!! OUT WITH SHAW AGNEW SINGH BLACK HENDRY
Hello smell the coffee in your other disguise, you have been busted as he also touts mick banaman mcarthy, who if I'm not mistaken are below us in the league. BUSTED, and the guy also signed Bradley ordinary are you seriously suggesting that ORR was a good player?? No and you didn't when he was here. What about harping on about winless Arry, a guy you also wanted, he's been a real success hasn't he?
O'Neill should be available soon; two wins in 23 now.
[quote][p][bold]Return of the Magnificent se7en[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dangerous dave[/bold] wrote: totally wrong - look what he's done with the Ipswich team he inherited with no transfers in other then his own backroom staff - good solid Manager, motivator with sound managerial skills and knows his way around the Championship - we are now down to 13th and 18 points behind the leaders!!! OUT WITH SHAW AGNEW SINGH BLACK HENDRY[/p][/quote]Hello smell the coffee in your other disguise, you have been busted as he also touts mick banaman mcarthy, who if I'm not mistaken are below us in the league. BUSTED, and the guy also signed Bradley ordinary are you seriously suggesting that ORR was a good player?? No and you didn't when he was here. What about harping on about winless Arry, a guy you also wanted, he's been a real success hasn't he?[/p][/quote]O'Neill should be available soon; two wins in 23 now. whappen

9:29am Sun 9 Dec 12

Iiii1111 says...

This can't carry on much longer, hate to have a knee jerk reaction but, under Berg the team are playing worse than they where under Kean unbelievably
The squad isn't that bad to be playing this badly......four games to change things IMO if Berg hasn't the balls to clear out some of the back room staff who are obviously useless then it's time for complete clear the decks and replace him with wait for it.....Dean Saunders
This can't carry on much longer, hate to have a knee jerk reaction but, under Berg the team are playing worse than they where under Kean unbelievably The squad isn't that bad to be playing this badly......four games to change things IMO if Berg hasn't the balls to clear out some of the back room staff who are obviously useless then it's time for complete clear the decks and replace him with wait for it.....Dean Saunders Iiii1111

9:39am Sun 9 Dec 12

Iiii1111 says...

Bazzer wrote:
The big question for me at the moment my fellow Rovers fans is "Are there three clubs worse than us in this league?"
Probably....Peterbro
, S Wed, Bristol C ....but this team can get worse the team totally lacks confidence, the only hope on the horizon is Rhodes but he needs support which he's not getting...on current form we must be near the bottom though.
[quote][p][bold]Bazzer[/bold] wrote: The big question for me at the moment my fellow Rovers fans is "Are there three clubs worse than us in this league?"[/p][/quote]Probably....Peterbro , S Wed, Bristol C ....but this team can get worse the team totally lacks confidence, the only hope on the horizon is Rhodes but he needs support which he's not getting...on current form we must be near the bottom though. Iiii1111

9:48am Sun 9 Dec 12

Iiii1111 says...

Berg's record....LDDWLLDL = certain relegation think you're right Bazzer
Berg's record....LDDWLLDL = certain relegation think you're right Bazzer Iiii1111

9:51am Sun 9 Dec 12

dansker says...

Rovers75 wrote:
Nuttall Street wrote:
Rovers75 wrote:
penrithrover wrote:
Nuttall Street wrote:
Do you recall those happy days 2 years ago when the Walker Trust and Rob Coar sold out the club and Venkys took over, sacked BFS and appointed Steve Kean? What happened to those happy days when Ma Venky promised us the appointment of Ronaldhino, Beckham and Maradona and immediate entry to the Champions League. It didn't happen and so John Williams et al were swept away and The Global Adviser was appointed; but the goals kept being conceded and so Colin Hendry was appointed and it turned Into a torrent. What will the next disaster be? It is inevitably coming.
Good comment / Berg is heading for the axe , he will be the one that gets the push, losing his job and his credibility , but the defensive coach Hendry will definately keep his job whatever happens until Hendry pays the money back to the person he owes at Rovers, Black will probably keep his job , but its these two guys Hendry/Black that work with the players on a day to day basis , Berg should realise one thing either he ships these two out or he ships out himself , they are Keans drinking mates not Berg`s and they will not bother one iota if Berg gets shafted.
Very true - but I've a feeling Berg, unlike Kean, might well jump before he's pushed by those Indian parasites - meaning another soap opera in appointing his replacement.

I've tried to convince myself we can turn a corner under Berg and be positive but last night it was there for all to see the shambles that Rovers have become.

I've also tried to convince myself Venkys had learnt their lesson and were trying to put things right - how wrong was I? The heart and soul has been ripped out of the club by those w4nkers and until they sell, we can expect nothing other than misery. There was zero atmosphere last night, add that to the more than half empty ground (not just because of the Venkys disease that has riddled BRFC but TV, christmas etc) and we got what we deserved. Rovers fans just seem so edgy at Ewood. There's no trust and no hope whilst these germs own the club.

It's hardly any wonder those odd balls down the road are loving it. What Venkys have done to Rovers couldn't have been scripted any better than the most warped dingle.

Champions League, Beckham, Ronaldinho........

2 years on and we've been smashed at home 1-4 by Cardiff in front of 13,000. Dark days indeed. At least in the 80's we had some hope and little expectation.

VENKYS - the cancer of BRFC
Venkys did so much damage to Rovers so quickly that what we are witnessing now is the club still falling to find it's right level. Unfortunately, it's right level under these owners is in League One. No club that throws away it's assets (BFS, John Williams, numerous players) and replaces them with liabilities (Steve Kean, The Global Adviser, Colin Hendry, Henning Berg, David Goodwillie, Scott Dann, Dickson and Danny) cannot survive in the Championship. It's just too testing a league. So Rovers are still falling and will not find equilibrium until they have been relegated again. Tragic, but inevitable.
You could well be right and bigger or similar sized clubs have fallen into League 1 such as Leeds, Weds, Forest, Southampton, Sheff Utd etc.

It's desperate mate, so very desperate.

I'd love to think Hughsey would come in and sort this mess out before things get even worse. Bergs reputation would be tarnished but there's no room for sentiment I'm afraid because the clubs in turmoil.

Question is would Hughsey want to come back and would he work under those clowns? I very much doubt it......
Why Hughes?? He is not a good manager!!
[quote][p][bold]Rovers75[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nuttall Street[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rovers75[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]penrithrover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nuttall Street[/bold] wrote: Do you recall those happy days 2 years ago when the Walker Trust and Rob Coar sold out the club and Venkys took over, sacked BFS and appointed Steve Kean? What happened to those happy days when Ma Venky promised us the appointment of Ronaldhino, Beckham and Maradona and immediate entry to the Champions League. It didn't happen and so John Williams et al were swept away and The Global Adviser was appointed; but the goals kept being conceded and so Colin Hendry was appointed and it turned Into a torrent. What will the next disaster be? It is inevitably coming.[/p][/quote]Good comment / Berg is heading for the axe , he will be the one that gets the push, losing his job and his credibility , but the defensive coach Hendry will definately keep his job whatever happens until Hendry pays the money back to the person he owes at Rovers, Black will probably keep his job , but its these two guys Hendry/Black that work with the players on a day to day basis , Berg should realise one thing either he ships these two out or he ships out himself , they are Keans drinking mates not Berg`s and they will not bother one iota if Berg gets shafted.[/p][/quote]Very true - but I've a feeling Berg, unlike Kean, might well jump before he's pushed by those Indian parasites - meaning another soap opera in appointing his replacement. I've tried to convince myself we can turn a corner under Berg and be positive but last night it was there for all to see the shambles that Rovers have become. I've also tried to convince myself Venkys had learnt their lesson and were trying to put things right - how wrong was I? The heart and soul has been ripped out of the club by those w4nkers and until they sell, we can expect nothing other than misery. There was zero atmosphere last night, add that to the more than half empty ground (not just because of the Venkys disease that has riddled BRFC but TV, christmas etc) and we got what we deserved. Rovers fans just seem so edgy at Ewood. There's no trust and no hope whilst these germs own the club. It's hardly any wonder those odd balls down the road are loving it. What Venkys have done to Rovers couldn't have been scripted any better than the most warped dingle. Champions League, Beckham, Ronaldinho........ 2 years on and we've been smashed at home 1-4 by Cardiff in front of 13,000. Dark days indeed. At least in the 80's we had some hope and little expectation. VENKYS - the cancer of BRFC[/p][/quote]Venkys did so much damage to Rovers so quickly that what we are witnessing now is the club still falling to find it's right level. Unfortunately, it's right level under these owners is in League One. No club that throws away it's assets (BFS, John Williams, numerous players) and replaces them with liabilities (Steve Kean, The Global Adviser, Colin Hendry, Henning Berg, David Goodwillie, Scott Dann, Dickson and Danny) cannot survive in the Championship. It's just too testing a league. So Rovers are still falling and will not find equilibrium until they have been relegated again. Tragic, but inevitable.[/p][/quote]You could well be right and bigger or similar sized clubs have fallen into League 1 such as Leeds, Weds, Forest, Southampton, Sheff Utd etc. It's desperate mate, so very desperate. I'd love to think Hughsey would come in and sort this mess out before things get even worse. Bergs reputation would be tarnished but there's no room for sentiment I'm afraid because the clubs in turmoil. Question is would Hughsey want to come back and would he work under those clowns? I very much doubt it......[/p][/quote]Why Hughes?? He is not a good manager!! dansker

10:15am Sun 9 Dec 12

blueblooded says...

blazerafe wrote:
Scathing attack on Berg, especially considering that up until the second goal went in we were doing pretty well. How only one person has pointed out that Etuhu was to blame for the two goals is beyond me, did anybody actually watch the match. And to top it all off the shot with Dunn stood behind Berg speaks a thousand words. We all know what sort of respect Shebby has for players of age, he made the Pedersen comment and then took it back bringing it as a generalization, and now all of our oldest players with the most experience are being left out. Dunn, Gomes, Pedersen, Givet ect. The writings on the wall but not many seem to be able to see it, outside interference is clearly happening. I dont believe for a second that Berg a Norweigian himself who has worked in Norway for a few years now would leave out a fellow country man from his starting line up who clearly still has bags of ability. The only reason Murphy still gets to play is because we have no other CM's that are consistently healthy aside from Etuhu. Some of the blame also needs to fall with Robinson, he made 1 save the entire night when the ball was crossed straight to his chest. He pulled his hand away from the Belemy shot thinking it was going over and it hit the bar, he made no attempt to save any of the three goals with any real gusto and i can only think that its down to his age and reactions becoming pathetic.
You cannot polish a turd and this squad is what has been left from the previous regime, so for the love of all that is holy dont crap your pants and start with the Berg out rubbish yet, its a long season and hopefully Venkys can see that a fair bit of the blame should go on Singh, who should be axed and a proper management system put in place. Not only this but Bergs ins and outs will define the rest of our season so until February we need to hold fire on this negativity and hope that he replaces Dann, Hanley, Murpey, Etuhu and this outside interference stops.
Ignore the last post, quoted the wrong post! Enochs posts are definitely not what I come here to read!

Posts like these are what I come on Let to read, agreed Robbo had a lot to answer for, but tbh, I was appalled at times how quick Cardiff were able to get from their goalkeeper to our box!

With regard to backroom staff, new coaching staff to be announced this week I believe. Venky's have apparently woken up to the fact that things aren't going well all of a sudden.

I wouldn't be shouting Berg out but I agree the not playing of the likes of Vuk is bizarre to say the least. Shebby being quiet definitely doesn't mean he isn't actively involved behind the scenes controlling things on the line. We're only six points to a play off place and things can still turn around, but new coaching staff and players are probably more important than a new manager. As you say, you can't polish a turd. Besides if a yes-man is Shebby criteria for a manager with no honour, it wouldn't make any great difference. I still don't think Berg is the man to get us promoted, but at this stage it would probably damage us more having to go through Shebmeisters recruitment process again for another two months!
[quote][p][bold]blazerafe[/bold] wrote: Scathing attack on Berg, especially considering that up until the second goal went in we were doing pretty well. How only one person has pointed out that Etuhu was to blame for the two goals is beyond me, did anybody actually watch the match. And to top it all off the shot with Dunn stood behind Berg speaks a thousand words. We all know what sort of respect Shebby has for players of age, he made the Pedersen comment and then took it back bringing it as a generalization, and now all of our oldest players with the most experience are being left out. Dunn, Gomes, Pedersen, Givet ect. The writings on the wall but not many seem to be able to see it, outside interference is clearly happening. I dont believe for a second that Berg a Norweigian himself who has worked in Norway for a few years now would leave out a fellow country man from his starting line up who clearly still has bags of ability. The only reason Murphy still gets to play is because we have no other CM's that are consistently healthy aside from Etuhu. Some of the blame also needs to fall with Robinson, he made 1 save the entire night when the ball was crossed straight to his chest. He pulled his hand away from the Belemy shot thinking it was going over and it hit the bar, he made no attempt to save any of the three goals with any real gusto and i can only think that its down to his age and reactions becoming pathetic. You cannot polish a turd and this squad is what has been left from the previous regime, so for the love of all that is holy dont crap your pants and start with the Berg out rubbish yet, its a long season and hopefully Venkys can see that a fair bit of the blame should go on Singh, who should be axed and a proper management system put in place. Not only this but Bergs ins and outs will define the rest of our season so until February we need to hold fire on this negativity and hope that he replaces Dann, Hanley, Murpey, Etuhu and this outside interference stops.[/p][/quote]Ignore the last post, quoted the wrong post! Enochs posts are definitely not what I come here to read! Posts like these are what I come on Let to read, agreed Robbo had a lot to answer for, but tbh, I was appalled at times how quick Cardiff were able to get from their goalkeeper to our box! With regard to backroom staff, new coaching staff to be announced this week I believe. Venky's have apparently woken up to the fact that things aren't going well all of a sudden. I wouldn't be shouting Berg out but I agree the not playing of the likes of Vuk is bizarre to say the least. Shebby being quiet definitely doesn't mean he isn't actively involved behind the scenes controlling things on the line. We're only six points to a play off place and things can still turn around, but new coaching staff and players are probably more important than a new manager. As you say, you can't polish a turd. Besides if a yes-man is Shebby criteria for a manager with no honour, it wouldn't make any great difference. I still don't think Berg is the man to get us promoted, but at this stage it would probably damage us more having to go through Shebmeisters recruitment process again for another two months! blueblooded

10:46am Sun 9 Dec 12

Roverthere says...

bluerob wrote:
Our fans have to take some responsibility in this, we were playing a good top of the league Cardiff team and the attendance was embarrassing.

The atmosphere was like a pre season friendly with a non league team, we need to be the 12th man and make it difficult for the opposition not like a kick around in the local park.

If you have any feelings for Blackburn Rovers I urge you to get back to Ewood and give your support to Berg and the team.

We can make a difference.
Why. The club has brought about this catastrophic decline, it is all self inflicted starting with the removal of Sam. Why should supporters pay good money to see the highest paid failures in the league produce poor performances week in and week out. Dark days indeed for a Rovers supporter!
[quote][p][bold]bluerob[/bold] wrote: Our fans have to take some responsibility in this, we were playing a good top of the league Cardiff team and the attendance was embarrassing. The atmosphere was like a pre season friendly with a non league team, we need to be the 12th man and make it difficult for the opposition not like a kick around in the local park. If you have any feelings for Blackburn Rovers I urge you to get back to Ewood and give your support to Berg and the team. We can make a difference.[/p][/quote]Why. The club has brought about this catastrophic decline, it is all self inflicted starting with the removal of Sam. Why should supporters pay good money to see the highest paid failures in the league produce poor performances week in and week out. Dark days indeed for a Rovers supporter! Roverthere

10:48am Sun 9 Dec 12

dangerous dave says...

bluebloded - yes and the majority of us dont come on here to read the 'vile' garbage that you put into print from time to time!!!!!!!
OUT WITH SHAW AGNEW SINGH BLACK HENDRY AND MAYBE BERG
bluebloded - yes and the majority of us dont come on here to read the 'vile' garbage that you put into print from time to time!!!!!!! OUT WITH SHAW AGNEW SINGH BLACK HENDRY AND MAYBE BERG dangerous dave

11:13am Sun 9 Dec 12

speedie_rovers_legend says...

LanghoDAN wrote:
blueblooded wrote:
LanghoDAN wrote:
The club I once followed up to this shower taking over are on the verge off going down again, we're on earth are the owners and mr shebby lover lover, we have not heard nothing from her over in India or the brothers once, since there bum boy departed in the dodgy sunset, it funny as mr shing was on every sporting channel when hiring and looking for a new manager we couldn't get enought if him, but now dose he even Exist anymore, if nothing is done to this club it's by by Blackburn rovers forever, the owners do they give a dam about what really happens to us as they have made enought money to **** off,I'm afraid the supporters are being fooled by watching this crap club, I noticed on sky sports news scarves and banners being thrown onto the pitch again last night, but there's the ones who have committed to watching and contributing to the ruining of the club
Out with venkys
Berg
Hendry
And the supporters
Bullcr@p glory hunter.

You know, I know and everyone knows it wouldn't matter who owned the club or which bunch of nasties sat in the boardroom. If miraculously we found our firm and started to win, you tin pot stay aways would be there waving your flags as if you'd never been away.

Get bring the team or stay away for ever made, your choice, but don't come on here brandishing the real fans who know bad times and good times are to be had but the team still needs support and the real supporters will still be there . You think it's easy attending games in the last few years knowing what we know and knowing a crushing defeat is much more likely than a win? Do you think it's enjoyable?

You're almost as bad as the dingles with your disgraceful attack of real fans. Shame on you.
We're have you got your comments from I'm no hippocrite I'm a true supporter of rovers through thick and thin in early eighties when we were down in third and second division,but the fans needs to realise that the owners will be laughing all the way to the bank when they have robbed us blind, iv stopped going to rovers as I can't stand the fact that we were once a top flight club in a. Suitable postion and now were down in the championship, I'm a very close friend of mr Finn who's close to mr Williams, who they know the real truth about the owners so bog off with your comments and cone back when we're down in the first division and sat sorry
Spot on , Venkys are asset stripping the club open your eyes they do not tell you lies.
[quote][p][bold]LanghoDAN[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]blueblooded[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LanghoDAN[/bold] wrote: The club I once followed up to this shower taking over are on the verge off going down again, we're on earth are the owners and mr shebby lover lover, we have not heard nothing from her over in India or the brothers once, since there bum boy departed in the dodgy sunset, it funny as mr shing was on every sporting channel when hiring and looking for a new manager we couldn't get enought if him, but now dose he even Exist anymore, if nothing is done to this club it's by by Blackburn rovers forever, the owners do they give a dam about what really happens to us as they have made enought money to **** off,I'm afraid the supporters are being fooled by watching this crap club, I noticed on sky sports news scarves and banners being thrown onto the pitch again last night, but there's the ones who have committed to watching and contributing to the ruining of the club Out with venkys Berg Hendry And the supporters[/p][/quote]Bullcr@p glory hunter. You know, I know and everyone knows it wouldn't matter who owned the club or which bunch of nasties sat in the boardroom. If miraculously we found our firm and started to win, you tin pot stay aways would be there waving your flags as if you'd never been away. Get bring the team or stay away for ever made, your choice, but don't come on here brandishing the real fans who know bad times and good times are to be had but the team still needs support and the real supporters will still be there . You think it's easy attending games in the last few years knowing what we know and knowing a crushing defeat is much more likely than a win? Do you think it's enjoyable? You're almost as bad as the dingles with your disgraceful attack of real fans. Shame on you.[/p][/quote]We're have you got your comments from I'm no hippocrite I'm a true supporter of rovers through thick and thin in early eighties when we were down in third and second division,but the fans needs to realise that the owners will be laughing all the way to the bank when they have robbed us blind, iv stopped going to rovers as I can't stand the fact that we were once a top flight club in a. Suitable postion and now were down in the championship, I'm a very close friend of mr Finn who's close to mr Williams, who they know the real truth about the owners so bog off with your comments and cone back when we're down in the first division and sat sorry[/p][/quote]Spot on , Venkys are asset stripping the club open your eyes they do not tell you lies. speedie_rovers_legend

11:15am Sun 9 Dec 12

blueblooded says...

dangerous dave wrote:
bluebloded - yes and the majority of us dont come on here to read the 'vile' garbage that you put into print from time to time!!!!!!!
OUT WITH SHAW AGNEW SINGH BLACK HENDRY AND MAYBE BERG
Vile garbage is only aimed at dingles like you though deluded.

Caps lock king that you are. Shout if you're lonely :-)
[quote][p][bold]dangerous dave[/bold] wrote: bluebloded - yes and the majority of us dont come on here to read the 'vile' garbage that you put into print from time to time!!!!!!! OUT WITH SHAW AGNEW SINGH BLACK HENDRY AND MAYBE BERG[/p][/quote]Vile garbage is only aimed at dingles like you though deluded. Caps lock king that you are. Shout if you're lonely :-) blueblooded

11:16am Sun 9 Dec 12

French Rover says...

Iiii1111 wrote:
This can't carry on much longer, hate to have a knee jerk reaction but, under Berg the team are playing worse than they where under Kean unbelievably
The squad isn't that bad to be playing this badly......four games to change things IMO if Berg hasn't the balls to clear out some of the back room staff who are obviously useless then it's time for complete clear the decks and replace him with wait for it.....Dean Saunders
colonel saunders would be more appropriate and probably a better manager!
[quote][p][bold]Iiii1111[/bold] wrote: This can't carry on much longer, hate to have a knee jerk reaction but, under Berg the team are playing worse than they where under Kean unbelievably The squad isn't that bad to be playing this badly......four games to change things IMO if Berg hasn't the balls to clear out some of the back room staff who are obviously useless then it's time for complete clear the decks and replace him with wait for it.....Dean Saunders[/p][/quote]colonel saunders would be more appropriate and probably a better manager! French Rover

11:16am Sun 9 Dec 12

Walkerstandrover says...

We keep hearing "with the squad we've got......." - trouble it's quantity not quality. I've been to every home game bar one this season and even in the games we've won ( a distant memory) every TEAM has played better than us. All the opposition move up and down the field in groups, pass (accurately) and move and with pace. We meanwhile keep rigid lines across the field, move slowly and have far too much space between the lines. The man on the ball seldom has options - nobody makes themselves available. Watch us when we get a throw in - one player (if lucky) will make himself available. Murphy and Etuhu are too slow and seldom accurate, Lowe is always facing the wrong way and seldom plays forward. Distribution from defence is woeful (particulary Hanley) Have you seen how many goals come down our left side. Why keep playing Hanley on the left of centre? If Dann can't play there what's wrong with Givet? As for Olsson (contributes to the gaping hole down the left, he used to be good going froward but he's lost that now. Rhodes must wonder why he joined us - service to him in the penalty area is non existent. At the moment we are a few points clear of the bottom but can see that gap narrowing quickly forget play offs, relegation is more likely until the players stop believing their own publicity.
We keep hearing "with the squad we've got......." - trouble it's quantity not quality. I've been to every home game bar one this season and even in the games we've won ( a distant memory) every TEAM has played better than us. All the opposition move up and down the field in groups, pass (accurately) and move and with pace. We meanwhile keep rigid lines across the field, move slowly and have far too much space between the lines. The man on the ball seldom has options - nobody makes themselves available. Watch us when we get a throw in - one player (if lucky) will make himself available. Murphy and Etuhu are too slow and seldom accurate, Lowe is always facing the wrong way and seldom plays forward. Distribution from defence is woeful (particulary Hanley) Have you seen how many goals come down our left side. Why keep playing Hanley on the left of centre? If Dann can't play there what's wrong with Givet? As for Olsson (contributes to the gaping hole down the left, he used to be good going froward but he's lost that now. Rhodes must wonder why he joined us - service to him in the penalty area is non existent. At the moment we are a few points clear of the bottom but can see that gap narrowing quickly forget play offs, relegation is more likely until the players stop believing their own publicity. Walkerstandrover

11:21am Sun 9 Dec 12

roverfor60years says...

penrithrover wrote:
Nuttall Street wrote:
Do you recall those happy days 2 years ago when the Walker Trust and Rob Coar sold out the club and Venkys took over, sacked BFS and appointed Steve Kean? What happened to those happy days when Ma Venky promised us the appointment of Ronaldhino, Beckham and Maradona and immediate entry to the Champions League. It didn't happen and so John Williams et al were swept away and The Global Adviser was appointed; but the goals kept being conceded and so Colin Hendry was appointed and it turned Into a torrent. What will the next disaster be? It is inevitably coming.
Good comment / Berg is heading for the axe , he will be the one that gets the push, losing his job and his credibility , but the defensive coach Hendry will definately keep his job whatever happens until Hendry pays the money back to the person he owes at Rovers, Black will probably keep his job , but its these two guys Hendry/Black that work with the players on a day to day basis , Berg should realise one thing either he ships these two out or he ships out himself , they are Keans drinking mates not Berg`s and they will not bother one iota if Berg gets shafted.
I can tell you that Black works with the players, but Hendry doesn’t. He doesn’t even communicate with the rest of the coaching staff during training. He just stands there, contributing absolutely nothing and I cannot understand why he is still here. But I CAN understand why he has had absolutely no influence or effect on the defence.

There are many good and pertinent observations among the constructive comments here. ‘Nuttall Street’ says he can guarantee the Global Advisor will read this site. I doubt it. My view is that if we all write personal letters to Shebby, as I have done, it may bear more fruit.

I am filled with foreboding. We are in freefall at the moment and if we continue like this another relegaton is going to become a real spectre..

Three poor home performances and eight goals conceded have shattered the confidence I had before the Millwall and Bolton games. I sincerely hope Henning Berg can turn things around, but I am beginning to have doubts.

We should have begun to see his influence by now, but in all honesty we look a bunch of misfits and not-good-enoughs, lacking quality and conviction. I know Berg has inherited this lot and I know that it would take some time to turn things round, but will he be able to?

I fully expected to see some backroom changes by now but has HB been told he will have to work with what he has got – or, even worse, does he not have his own trusted ‘team’? I don’t know what departures there have been since Sam went, but we seem woefully lacking on the training and coaching side.

The stamina has gone, the work rate has gone, the fitness has gone. No method, no fire, no punch. A pitiful midfield – and still seriously lacking in defensive ability, even though that problem has been staring us in the face for two years. We are at sixes and sevens, unbalanced, careless. Goals are raining in in the last ten minutes of matches.

I am surprised we are not lower down the table than we are, but two or three more results like this and we soon will be.

If Berg has been told he must work with what he has got then we are in real trouble. It will show Venky’s have learned nothing.
[quote][p][bold]penrithrover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nuttall Street[/bold] wrote: Do you recall those happy days 2 years ago when the Walker Trust and Rob Coar sold out the club and Venkys took over, sacked BFS and appointed Steve Kean? What happened to those happy days when Ma Venky promised us the appointment of Ronaldhino, Beckham and Maradona and immediate entry to the Champions League. It didn't happen and so John Williams et al were swept away and The Global Adviser was appointed; but the goals kept being conceded and so Colin Hendry was appointed and it turned Into a torrent. What will the next disaster be? It is inevitably coming.[/p][/quote]Good comment / Berg is heading for the axe , he will be the one that gets the push, losing his job and his credibility , but the defensive coach Hendry will definately keep his job whatever happens until Hendry pays the money back to the person he owes at Rovers, Black will probably keep his job , but its these two guys Hendry/Black that work with the players on a day to day basis , Berg should realise one thing either he ships these two out or he ships out himself , they are Keans drinking mates not Berg`s and they will not bother one iota if Berg gets shafted.[/p][/quote]I can tell you that Black works with the players, but Hendry doesn’t. He doesn’t even communicate with the rest of the coaching staff during training. He just stands there, contributing absolutely nothing and I cannot understand why he is still here. But I CAN understand why he has had absolutely no influence or effect on the defence. There are many good and pertinent observations among the constructive comments here. ‘Nuttall Street’ says he can guarantee the Global Advisor will read this site. I doubt it. My view is that if we all write personal letters to Shebby, as I have done, it may bear more fruit. I am filled with foreboding. We are in freefall at the moment and if we continue like this another relegaton is going to become a real spectre.. Three poor home performances and eight goals conceded have shattered the confidence I had before the Millwall and Bolton games. I sincerely hope Henning Berg can turn things around, but I am beginning to have doubts. We should have begun to see his influence by now, but in all honesty we look a bunch of misfits and not-good-enoughs, lacking quality and conviction. I know Berg has inherited this lot and I know that it would take some time to turn things round, but will he be able to? I fully expected to see some backroom changes by now but has HB been told he will have to work with what he has got – or, even worse, does he not have his own trusted ‘team’? I don’t know what departures there have been since Sam went, but we seem woefully lacking on the training and coaching side. The stamina has gone, the work rate has gone, the fitness has gone. No method, no fire, no punch. A pitiful midfield – and still seriously lacking in defensive ability, even though that problem has been staring us in the face for two years. We are at sixes and sevens, unbalanced, careless. Goals are raining in in the last ten minutes of matches. I am surprised we are not lower down the table than we are, but two or three more results like this and we soon will be. If Berg has been told he must work with what he has got then we are in real trouble. It will show Venky’s have learned nothing. roverfor60years

11:31am Sun 9 Dec 12

Tom F. says...

A Darener wrote:
The ghost of Kean is still haunting us! This team is mainly his players, only King is Bergs and he was our best player. CKR also played well but he was on for only the second half.
It is incredible how much **** u rovers fans are writing on this side. First it was Kean, now it is Kean and in 10 years ahead of today it will be all keans fault. Kean was Top 3 with this squad. Open your f..... Eyes. It is all u and NOT Kean. Rovers Supportes are a mess!
[quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: The ghost of Kean is still haunting us! This team is mainly his players, only King is Bergs and he was our best player. CKR also played well but he was on for only the second half.[/p][/quote]It is incredible how much **** u rovers fans are writing on this side. First it was Kean, now it is Kean and in 10 years ahead of today it will be all keans fault. Kean was Top 3 with this squad. Open your f..... Eyes. It is all u and NOT Kean. Rovers Supportes are a mess! Tom F.

11:35am Sun 9 Dec 12

Iiii1111 says...

roverfor60years wrote:
penrithrover wrote:
Nuttall Street wrote:
Do you recall those happy days 2 years ago when the Walker Trust and Rob Coar sold out the club and Venkys took over, sacked BFS and appointed Steve Kean? What happened to those happy days when Ma Venky promised us the appointment of Ronaldhino, Beckham and Maradona and immediate entry to the Champions League. It didn't happen and so John Williams et al were swept away and The Global Adviser was appointed; but the goals kept being conceded and so Colin Hendry was appointed and it turned Into a torrent. What will the next disaster be? It is inevitably coming.
Good comment / Berg is heading for the axe , he will be the one that gets the push, losing his job and his credibility , but the defensive coach Hendry will definately keep his job whatever happens until Hendry pays the money back to the person he owes at Rovers, Black will probably keep his job , but its these two guys Hendry/Black that work with the players on a day to day basis , Berg should realise one thing either he ships these two out or he ships out himself , they are Keans drinking mates not Berg`s and they will not bother one iota if Berg gets shafted.
I can tell you that Black works with the players, but Hendry doesn’t. He doesn’t even communicate with the rest of the coaching staff during training. He just stands there, contributing absolutely nothing and I cannot understand why he is still here. But I CAN understand why he has had absolutely no influence or effect on the defence.

There are many good and pertinent observations among the constructive comments here. ‘Nuttall Street’ says he can guarantee the Global Advisor will read this site. I doubt it. My view is that if we all write personal letters to Shebby, as I have done, it may bear more fruit.

I am filled with foreboding. We are in freefall at the moment and if we continue like this another relegaton is going to become a real spectre..

Three poor home performances and eight goals conceded have shattered the confidence I had before the Millwall and Bolton games. I sincerely hope Henning Berg can turn things around, but I am beginning to have doubts.

We should have begun to see his influence by now, but in all honesty we look a bunch of misfits and not-good-enoughs, lacking quality and conviction. I know Berg has inherited this lot and I know that it would take some time to turn things round, but will he be able to?

I fully expected to see some backroom changes by now but has HB been told he will have to work with what he has got – or, even worse, does he not have his own trusted ‘team’? I don’t know what departures there have been since Sam went, but we seem woefully lacking on the training and coaching side.

The stamina has gone, the work rate has gone, the fitness has gone. No method, no fire, no punch. A pitiful midfield – and still seriously lacking in defensive ability, even though that problem has been staring us in the face for two years. We are at sixes and sevens, unbalanced, careless. Goals are raining in in the last ten minutes of matches.

I am surprised we are not lower down the table than we are, but two or three more results like this and we soon will be.

If Berg has been told he must work with what he has got then we are in real trouble. It will show Venky’s have learned nothing.
Spot on
[quote][p][bold]roverfor60years[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]penrithrover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nuttall Street[/bold] wrote: Do you recall those happy days 2 years ago when the Walker Trust and Rob Coar sold out the club and Venkys took over, sacked BFS and appointed Steve Kean? What happened to those happy days when Ma Venky promised us the appointment of Ronaldhino, Beckham and Maradona and immediate entry to the Champions League. It didn't happen and so John Williams et al were swept away and The Global Adviser was appointed; but the goals kept being conceded and so Colin Hendry was appointed and it turned Into a torrent. What will the next disaster be? It is inevitably coming.[/p][/quote]Good comment / Berg is heading for the axe , he will be the one that gets the push, losing his job and his credibility , but the defensive coach Hendry will definately keep his job whatever happens until Hendry pays the money back to the person he owes at Rovers, Black will probably keep his job , but its these two guys Hendry/Black that work with the players on a day to day basis , Berg should realise one thing either he ships these two out or he ships out himself , they are Keans drinking mates not Berg`s and they will not bother one iota if Berg gets shafted.[/p][/quote]I can tell you that Black works with the players, but Hendry doesn’t. He doesn’t even communicate with the rest of the coaching staff during training. He just stands there, contributing absolutely nothing and I cannot understand why he is still here. But I CAN understand why he has had absolutely no influence or effect on the defence. There are many good and pertinent observations among the constructive comments here. ‘Nuttall Street’ says he can guarantee the Global Advisor will read this site. I doubt it. My view is that if we all write personal letters to Shebby, as I have done, it may bear more fruit. I am filled with foreboding. We are in freefall at the moment and if we continue like this another relegaton is going to become a real spectre.. Three poor home performances and eight goals conceded have shattered the confidence I had before the Millwall and Bolton games. I sincerely hope Henning Berg can turn things around, but I am beginning to have doubts. We should have begun to see his influence by now, but in all honesty we look a bunch of misfits and not-good-enoughs, lacking quality and conviction. I know Berg has inherited this lot and I know that it would take some time to turn things round, but will he be able to? I fully expected to see some backroom changes by now but has HB been told he will have to work with what he has got – or, even worse, does he not have his own trusted ‘team’? I don’t know what departures there have been since Sam went, but we seem woefully lacking on the training and coaching side. The stamina has gone, the work rate has gone, the fitness has gone. No method, no fire, no punch. A pitiful midfield – and still seriously lacking in defensive ability, even though that problem has been staring us in the face for two years. We are at sixes and sevens, unbalanced, careless. Goals are raining in in the last ten minutes of matches. I am surprised we are not lower down the table than we are, but two or three more results like this and we soon will be. If Berg has been told he must work with what he has got then we are in real trouble. It will show Venky’s have learned nothing.[/p][/quote]Spot on Iiii1111

11:36am Sun 9 Dec 12

MatthewCA says...

No news about Blackburn rovers in last two day in this media............sho
ws how fast the Free Fall going to happen.

People start "giving up" on this Club.

When Steve Kean is the BOSS, We are always in news weather negative or positive and football world is following us. Now we are out of the BOX.

I still believe, there is good amount of players in this club where we can finish at 5th/6th or better position in this championship.
No news about Blackburn rovers in last two day in this media............sho ws how fast the Free Fall going to happen. People start "giving up" on this Club. When Steve Kean is the BOSS, We are always in news weather negative or positive and football world is following us. Now we are out of the BOX. I still believe, there is good amount of players in this club where we can finish at 5th/6th or better position in this championship. MatthewCA

11:38am Sun 9 Dec 12

Tom F. says...

A Darener wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
A Darener wrote:
Until it is mathematically impossible to get promoted then we cannot say that Berg is a failure. Just give him a chance. Nothing could be worse than still having Kean as manager.
Ring your doctor for an appointment now. They will get very busy in the lead up to Christmas and psychiatric treatment is always difficult to secure.
You should know!
Sure Pal. Kean was only Top 3! So really a Bad Manager. Wake up u ....
[quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: Until it is mathematically impossible to get promoted then we cannot say that Berg is a failure. Just give him a chance. Nothing could be worse than still having Kean as manager.[/p][/quote]Ring your doctor for an appointment now. They will get very busy in the lead up to Christmas and psychiatric treatment is always difficult to secure.[/p][/quote]You should know![/p][/quote]Sure Pal. Kean was only Top 3! So really a Bad Manager. Wake up u .... Tom F.

11:43am Sun 9 Dec 12

Iiii1111 says...

French Rover wrote:
Iiii1111 wrote:
This can't carry on much longer, hate to have a knee jerk reaction but, under Berg the team are playing worse than they where under Kean unbelievably
The squad isn't that bad to be playing this badly......four games to change things IMO if Berg hasn't the balls to clear out some of the back room staff who are obviously useless then it's time for complete clear the decks and replace him with wait for it.....Dean Saunders
colonel saunders would be more appropriate and probably a better manager!
Frenchy, plenty of red last night...obviously you haven't
Seen the fantastic job DS is doing at Doncaster....Equal top of the first division above teams like Sheffield united PNE.....now a track record as a manager (sorry to say unlike Berg) and Rovers connections to boot. Dean's last four games WWWW
[quote][p][bold]French Rover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Iiii1111[/bold] wrote: This can't carry on much longer, hate to have a knee jerk reaction but, under Berg the team are playing worse than they where under Kean unbelievably The squad isn't that bad to be playing this badly......four games to change things IMO if Berg hasn't the balls to clear out some of the back room staff who are obviously useless then it's time for complete clear the decks and replace him with wait for it.....Dean Saunders[/p][/quote]colonel saunders would be more appropriate and probably a better manager![/p][/quote]Frenchy, plenty of red last night...obviously you haven't Seen the fantastic job DS is doing at Doncaster....Equal top of the first division above teams like Sheffield united PNE.....now a track record as a manager (sorry to say unlike Berg) and Rovers connections to boot. Dean's last four games WWWW Iiii1111

11:43am Sun 9 Dec 12

roverfor60years says...

Eight goals conceded in three home games – which has come immediately after the foot-in-mouth disclosure that we are looking to bring Brad Friedal back as a player. At 41!

Robbo asks for clarification on his position – and receives a vague reply.

Three shattering home defeats follow, the final one a humiliating 4-1 thrashing by Cardiff City.

Any connection, I wonder?
Eight goals conceded in three home games – which has come immediately after the foot-in-mouth disclosure that we are looking to bring Brad Friedal back as a player. At 41! Robbo asks for clarification on his position – and receives a vague reply. Three shattering home defeats follow, the final one a humiliating 4-1 thrashing by Cardiff City. Any connection, I wonder? roverfor60years

11:50am Sun 9 Dec 12

dangerous dave says...

blueblooded - yes the 'vile gases' within you will hopefully one day take good care of you and put you in a place where its obvious you should have been put many years ago!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! absolute spouting idiot.
OUT WITH SHAW AGNEW SINGH BLACK HENDRY AND MAY BE BERG
blueblooded - yes the 'vile gases' within you will hopefully one day take good care of you and put you in a place where its obvious you should have been put many years ago!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! absolute spouting idiot. OUT WITH SHAW AGNEW SINGH BLACK HENDRY AND MAY BE BERG dangerous dave

11:59am Sun 9 Dec 12

Return of the Magnificent se7en says...

To be honest I can see why friedel is being considered, I mean take robinson on set peices, as soon as the opposition play it in the area, Robbo shouts AWAY and then makes a move just in case. What is this bizarre AWAY shout. Does he think a defender is not going to head or play it AWAY, does he think he is going to have a shot at his own goal or something. Just one of the many Robbo bizarreisms.
I like freidel as a goalkeeper, he commands his area and always has. Robbo is a bit weak in this area, don't get me wrong Robbo is a great shot stopper, but all other aspects of his game are less than required. Friedel, although 41 is still immense and could be enough to get us out of this division. Maybe we should really be looking out for the new brad friedel instead though. Just a thought.
To be honest I can see why friedel is being considered, I mean take robinson on set peices, as soon as the opposition play it in the area, Robbo shouts AWAY and then makes a move just in case. What is this bizarre AWAY shout. Does he think a defender is not going to head or play it AWAY, does he think he is going to have a shot at his own goal or something. Just one of the many Robbo bizarreisms. I like freidel as a goalkeeper, he commands his area and always has. Robbo is a bit weak in this area, don't get me wrong Robbo is a great shot stopper, but all other aspects of his game are less than required. Friedel, although 41 is still immense and could be enough to get us out of this division. Maybe we should really be looking out for the new brad friedel instead though. Just a thought. Return of the Magnificent se7en

12:04pm Sun 9 Dec 12

Road Runner Road Runner says...

Rats still scurry down the corridors of Ewood Park and Brockhall.

Either Berg is as useless as the odious one or he is being manipulated behind the scenes ?

Everyman and his dog can see that all is not well down at the good ship Ewood, but what is the actual reason for this abysmal showing that insists on rearing it's ugly head ?

A comment above alludes to movement on the shambles that purports to be that of the coaching staff down at Ewood ? I would wish this to be the case if only to allow Berg the chance in proving himself with hand picked staff of his own.

Seeing as we are not privy to what is happening wholly behind the scenes regards these players of substance missing in action I can only surmise that form and injury is hampering these players from being involved ? Should that not be the case then surely it is only a matter of time before the whole sorry mess is exposed ?

The saga deepens and on the horizon appears no beacon of hope just a dark period becoming increasingly gloomy for us Rovers supporters, and most importantly for the club.

The loons in Pune should give their heads a real good shake and realize that the club it purchased is fast becoming a ship heading for the rocks with disaster inevitable. Broken up on the rocks into irretrievable pieces that could very well spell the end of BRFC ?

I wander aimlessly to games(mostly away) like a zombie with only memory before I - clutching at straws for better days ? Am I the only one who thought the atmosphere down at the Turf week last was subdued in contrast to the previous meetings from both sets of supporters ? Added to that a mere 12000 attending Ewood v Cardiff. This crisis is now becoming the norm, which from my perspective, can only become more entrenched should this debacle carry on.

The honeymoon period of Bergs appointment is now well and truly over, and Berg must move quickly in how he wishes to proceed with these matters and hope that he makes the wise and correct decisions for our beloved ?

In years gone by I have always looked for the core of BRFC for it's stability and success, but these last years this core, eroded, dank and abandoned leaves me with a chilling feeling that the 'dark forces' alluded to by a certain agent could very well be true ?

Whichever maybe the case BRFC is in need of urgent TLC with people who have the interests for all that BRFC stands for. This cannot go on much longer before isolation seeps into my beloved bones all matters BRFC for just what is it that we as supporters are supporting here ?

January will be the make or break time for I in so far as Berg must be seen to be in control of all matters resulting in him bringing in competent staff ? Many I know who have supported BRFC for 30/40 years are becoming stagnant and disillusioned with that which belies our club. I fail to understand how the owners can allow, for us the supporters, in being isolated by such cowardly and drastic actions that have wrecked only havoc and misery onto not only the club, but the wider community ? If this is the plan of these owners etc then it is working perfectly, and should they commit as much to the playing side of things then we would be reaching the upper echelons of the football world such is the contrast !

At present I don't hold out much hope for a brighter future under present circumstances, but wander I will next week to Blackpool hoping that a performance can be witnessed of that what I believe to be BRFC ? Carry on with this abject failure, and nothing will be more certain(other than tax and death) that I will disappear from the BRFC scene looking back with irretrievable heartbreak in so far as VENKY will have broken me with the biggest calamity that as beset BRFC in all of it's 137 year history. Now we are out of the limelight of the Premier League the dark forces could just very well see the end of BRFC as we know it ?

Have we ever been in such a disastrous situation that we find ourselves in now ?

Answers please ?

Arte et labore
Rats still scurry down the corridors of Ewood Park and Brockhall. Either Berg is as useless as the odious one or he is being manipulated behind the scenes ? Everyman and his dog can see that all is not well down at the good ship Ewood, but what is the actual reason for this abysmal showing that insists on rearing it's ugly head ? A comment above alludes to movement on the shambles that purports to be that of the coaching staff down at Ewood ? I would wish this to be the case if only to allow Berg the chance in proving himself with hand picked staff of his own. Seeing as we are not privy to what is happening wholly behind the scenes regards these players of substance missing in action I can only surmise that form and injury is hampering these players from being involved ? Should that not be the case then surely it is only a matter of time before the whole sorry mess is exposed ? The saga deepens and on the horizon appears no beacon of hope just a dark period becoming increasingly gloomy for us Rovers supporters, and most importantly for the club. The loons in Pune should give their heads a real good shake and realize that the club it purchased is fast becoming a ship heading for the rocks with disaster inevitable. Broken up on the rocks into irretrievable pieces that could very well spell the end of BRFC ? I wander aimlessly to games(mostly away) like a zombie with only memory before I - clutching at straws for better days ? Am I the only one who thought the atmosphere down at the Turf week last was subdued in contrast to the previous meetings from both sets of supporters ? Added to that a mere 12000 attending Ewood v Cardiff. This crisis is now becoming the norm, which from my perspective, can only become more entrenched should this debacle carry on. The honeymoon period of Bergs appointment is now well and truly over, and Berg must move quickly in how he wishes to proceed with these matters and hope that he makes the wise and correct decisions for our beloved ? In years gone by I have always looked for the core of BRFC for it's stability and success, but these last years this core, eroded, dank and abandoned leaves me with a chilling feeling that the 'dark forces' alluded to by a certain agent could very well be true ? Whichever maybe the case BRFC is in need of urgent TLC with people who have the interests for all that BRFC stands for. This cannot go on much longer before isolation seeps into my beloved bones all matters BRFC for just what is it that we as supporters are supporting here ? January will be the make or break time for I in so far as Berg must be seen to be in control of all matters resulting in him bringing in competent staff ? Many I know who have supported BRFC for 30/40 years are becoming stagnant and disillusioned with that which belies our club. I fail to understand how the owners can allow, for us the supporters, in being isolated by such cowardly and drastic actions that have wrecked only havoc and misery onto not only the club, but the wider community ? If this is the plan of these owners etc then it is working perfectly, and should they commit as much to the playing side of things then we would be reaching the upper echelons of the football world such is the contrast ! At present I don't hold out much hope for a brighter future under present circumstances, but wander I will next week to Blackpool hoping that a performance can be witnessed of that what I believe to be BRFC ? Carry on with this abject failure, and nothing will be more certain(other than tax and death) that I will disappear from the BRFC scene looking back with irretrievable heartbreak in so far as VENKY will have broken me with the biggest calamity that as beset BRFC in all of it's 137 year history. Now we are out of the limelight of the Premier League the dark forces could just very well see the end of BRFC as we know it ? Have we ever been in such a disastrous situation that we find ourselves in now ? Answers please ? Arte et labore Road Runner Road Runner

12:07pm Sun 9 Dec 12

Return of the Magnificent se7en says...

dangerous dave wrote:
blueblooded - yes the 'vile gases' within you will hopefully one day take good care of you and put you in a place where its obvious you should have been put many years ago!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! absolute spouting idiot.
OUT WITH SHAW AGNEW SINGH BLACK HENDRY AND MAY BE BERG
Well I'm with blueblooded as well, you are the caps lock king, you and penrith and smell the coffee are in fact the caps lock three kings but instead of bearing gifts you all bear turd.
Any suggestions on formation or squad or do you just keep bearing turd?
[quote][p][bold]dangerous dave[/bold] wrote: blueblooded - yes the 'vile gases' within you will hopefully one day take good care of you and put you in a place where its obvious you should have been put many years ago!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! absolute spouting idiot. OUT WITH SHAW AGNEW SINGH BLACK HENDRY AND MAY BE BERG[/p][/quote]Well I'm with blueblooded as well, you are the caps lock king, you and penrith and smell the coffee are in fact the caps lock three kings but instead of bearing gifts you all bear turd. Any suggestions on formation or squad or do you just keep bearing turd? Return of the Magnificent se7en

12:57pm Sun 9 Dec 12

Ronaldpetercooper says...

Road Runner Road Runner wrote:
Rats still scurry down the corridors of Ewood Park and Brockhall. Either Berg is as useless as the odious one or he is being manipulated behind the scenes ? Everyman and his dog can see that all is not well down at the good ship Ewood, but what is the actual reason for this abysmal showing that insists on rearing it's ugly head ? A comment above alludes to movement on the shambles that purports to be that of the coaching staff down at Ewood ? I would wish this to be the case if only to allow Berg the chance in proving himself with hand picked staff of his own. Seeing as we are not privy to what is happening wholly behind the scenes regards these players of substance missing in action I can only surmise that form and injury is hampering these players from being involved ? Should that not be the case then surely it is only a matter of time before the whole sorry mess is exposed ? The saga deepens and on the horizon appears no beacon of hope just a dark period becoming increasingly gloomy for us Rovers supporters, and most importantly for the club. The loons in Pune should give their heads a real good shake and realize that the club it purchased is fast becoming a ship heading for the rocks with disaster inevitable. Broken up on the rocks into irretrievable pieces that could very well spell the end of BRFC ? I wander aimlessly to games(mostly away) like a zombie with only memory before I - clutching at straws for better days ? Am I the only one who thought the atmosphere down at the Turf week last was subdued in contrast to the previous meetings from both sets of supporters ? Added to that a mere 12000 attending Ewood v Cardiff. This crisis is now becoming the norm, which from my perspective, can only become more entrenched should this debacle carry on. The honeymoon period of Bergs appointment is now well and truly over, and Berg must move quickly in how he wishes to proceed with these matters and hope that he makes the wise and correct decisions for our beloved ? In years gone by I have always looked for the core of BRFC for it's stability and success, but these last years this core, eroded, dank and abandoned leaves me with a chilling feeling that the 'dark forces' alluded to by a certain agent could very well be true ? Whichever maybe the case BRFC is in need of urgent TLC with people who have the interests for all that BRFC stands for. This cannot go on much longer before isolation seeps into my beloved bones all matters BRFC for just what is it that we as supporters are supporting here ? January will be the make or break time for I in so far as Berg must be seen to be in control of all matters resulting in him bringing in competent staff ? Many I know who have supported BRFC for 30/40 years are becoming stagnant and disillusioned with that which belies our club. I fail to understand how the owners can allow, for us the supporters, in being isolated by such cowardly and drastic actions that have wrecked only havoc and misery onto not only the club, but the wider community ? If this is the plan of these owners etc then it is working perfectly, and should they commit as much to the playing side of things then we would be reaching the upper echelons of the football world such is the contrast ! At present I don't hold out much hope for a brighter future under present circumstances, but wander I will next week to Blackpool hoping that a performance can be witnessed of that what I believe to be BRFC ? Carry on with this abject failure, and nothing will be more certain(other than tax and death) that I will disappear from the BRFC scene looking back with irretrievable heartbreak in so far as VENKY will have broken me with the biggest calamity that as beset BRFC in all of it's 137 year history. Now we are out of the limelight of the Premier League the dark forces could just very well see the end of BRFC as we know it ? Have we ever been in such a disastrous situation that we find ourselves in now ? Answers please ? Arte et labore
Hi RR Good post! I have only now been able to look at the site as been in shock at the gutless performance on Friday. It was shambolic with very few decent performances. It has got to the stage that I almost walk away when I hear the chosen 11. Sadly most of these are not good enough.
Most of us on here can remember dark days before since the 1960s and remain here but this lot do not appear to have pride or effort and we need a good clear out or at least some good fighters imported pretty dam quick. I for the life of me cannot understand why fighters on our books are not chosen such as Givet Simon and even Pederson. Dunn will also be welcome back when fit. Whilst we may critisise these players they will at least fight on our behalf. We must hope and pray that someone makes improvements soon and sorts this lot out.
[quote][p][bold]Road Runner Road Runner[/bold] wrote: Rats still scurry down the corridors of Ewood Park and Brockhall. Either Berg is as useless as the odious one or he is being manipulated behind the scenes ? Everyman and his dog can see that all is not well down at the good ship Ewood, but what is the actual reason for this abysmal showing that insists on rearing it's ugly head ? A comment above alludes to movement on the shambles that purports to be that of the coaching staff down at Ewood ? I would wish this to be the case if only to allow Berg the chance in proving himself with hand picked staff of his own. Seeing as we are not privy to what is happening wholly behind the scenes regards these players of substance missing in action I can only surmise that form and injury is hampering these players from being involved ? Should that not be the case then surely it is only a matter of time before the whole sorry mess is exposed ? The saga deepens and on the horizon appears no beacon of hope just a dark period becoming increasingly gloomy for us Rovers supporters, and most importantly for the club. The loons in Pune should give their heads a real good shake and realize that the club it purchased is fast becoming a ship heading for the rocks with disaster inevitable. Broken up on the rocks into irretrievable pieces that could very well spell the end of BRFC ? I wander aimlessly to games(mostly away) like a zombie with only memory before I - clutching at straws for better days ? Am I the only one who thought the atmosphere down at the Turf week last was subdued in contrast to the previous meetings from both sets of supporters ? Added to that a mere 12000 attending Ewood v Cardiff. This crisis is now becoming the norm, which from my perspective, can only become more entrenched should this debacle carry on. The honeymoon period of Bergs appointment is now well and truly over, and Berg must move quickly in how he wishes to proceed with these matters and hope that he makes the wise and correct decisions for our beloved ? In years gone by I have always looked for the core of BRFC for it's stability and success, but these last years this core, eroded, dank and abandoned leaves me with a chilling feeling that the 'dark forces' alluded to by a certain agent could very well be true ? Whichever maybe the case BRFC is in need of urgent TLC with people who have the interests for all that BRFC stands for. This cannot go on much longer before isolation seeps into my beloved bones all matters BRFC for just what is it that we as supporters are supporting here ? January will be the make or break time for I in so far as Berg must be seen to be in control of all matters resulting in him bringing in competent staff ? Many I know who have supported BRFC for 30/40 years are becoming stagnant and disillusioned with that which belies our club. I fail to understand how the owners can allow, for us the supporters, in being isolated by such cowardly and drastic actions that have wrecked only havoc and misery onto not only the club, but the wider community ? If this is the plan of these owners etc then it is working perfectly, and should they commit as much to the playing side of things then we would be reaching the upper echelons of the football world such is the contrast ! At present I don't hold out much hope for a brighter future under present circumstances, but wander I will next week to Blackpool hoping that a performance can be witnessed of that what I believe to be BRFC ? Carry on with this abject failure, and nothing will be more certain(other than tax and death) that I will disappear from the BRFC scene looking back with irretrievable heartbreak in so far as VENKY will have broken me with the biggest calamity that as beset BRFC in all of it's 137 year history. Now we are out of the limelight of the Premier League the dark forces could just very well see the end of BRFC as we know it ? Have we ever been in such a disastrous situation that we find ourselves in now ? Answers please ? Arte et labore[/p][/quote]Hi RR Good post! I have only now been able to look at the site as been in shock at the gutless performance on Friday. It was shambolic with very few decent performances. It has got to the stage that I almost walk away when I hear the chosen 11. Sadly most of these are not good enough. Most of us on here can remember dark days before since the 1960s and remain here but this lot do not appear to have pride or effort and we need a good clear out or at least some good fighters imported pretty dam quick. I for the life of me cannot understand why fighters on our books are not chosen such as Givet Simon and even Pederson. Dunn will also be welcome back when fit. Whilst we may critisise these players they will at least fight on our behalf. We must hope and pray that someone makes improvements soon and sorts this lot out. Ronaldpetercooper

1:05pm Sun 9 Dec 12

Harwoodstblue says...

MatthewCA wrote:
What else can we do to win games.

HB ask : Any better plan to teach blackburn players.

Bellamy shows and demonstate - Age is not the factor. Quality,pace and irritate the players with sweet smile and win the balls from there legs and shoot acurately in the post.

CKR,Rhodes,King,Roch

ina,Martin Ollson,Henley,Lowe,R

obbo. Other players I don't know wether they play 100% to win the games.
The word that stands out there Matthew is "Quality." The problem is, Venkys got rid of all the quality in our squad.
Why would the owners of a football team want to do that and expect to do well ?
[quote][p][bold]MatthewCA[/bold] wrote: What else can we do to win games. HB ask : Any better plan to teach blackburn players. Bellamy shows and demonstate - Age is not the factor. Quality,pace and irritate the players with sweet smile and win the balls from there legs and shoot acurately in the post. CKR,Rhodes,King,Roch ina,Martin Ollson,Henley,Lowe,R obbo. Other players I don't know wether they play 100% to win the games.[/p][/quote]The word that stands out there Matthew is "Quality." The problem is, Venkys got rid of all the quality in our squad. Why would the owners of a football team want to do that and expect to do well ? Harwoodstblue

1:08pm Sun 9 Dec 12

Lancs - pensioner says...

Road Runner Road Runner wrote:
Rats still scurry down the corridors of Ewood Park and Brockhall.

Either Berg is as useless as the odious one or he is being manipulated behind the scenes ?

Everyman and his dog can see that all is not well down at the good ship Ewood, but what is the actual reason for this abysmal showing that insists on rearing it's ugly head ?

A comment above alludes to movement on the shambles that purports to be that of the coaching staff down at Ewood ? I would wish this to be the case if only to allow Berg the chance in proving himself with hand picked staff of his own.

Seeing as we are not privy to what is happening wholly behind the scenes regards these players of substance missing in action I can only surmise that form and injury is hampering these players from being involved ? Should that not be the case then surely it is only a matter of time before the whole sorry mess is exposed ?

The saga deepens and on the horizon appears no beacon of hope just a dark period becoming increasingly gloomy for us Rovers supporters, and most importantly for the club.

The loons in Pune should give their heads a real good shake and realize that the club it purchased is fast becoming a ship heading for the rocks with disaster inevitable. Broken up on the rocks into irretrievable pieces that could very well spell the end of BRFC ?

I wander aimlessly to games(mostly away) like a zombie with only memory before I - clutching at straws for better days ? Am I the only one who thought the atmosphere down at the Turf week last was subdued in contrast to the previous meetings from both sets of supporters ? Added to that a mere 12000 attending Ewood v Cardiff. This crisis is now becoming the norm, which from my perspective, can only become more entrenched should this debacle carry on.

The honeymoon period of Bergs appointment is now well and truly over, and Berg must move quickly in how he wishes to proceed with these matters and hope that he makes the wise and correct decisions for our beloved ?

In years gone by I have always looked for the core of BRFC for it's stability and success, but these last years this core, eroded, dank and abandoned leaves me with a chilling feeling that the 'dark forces' alluded to by a certain agent could very well be true ?

Whichever maybe the case BRFC is in need of urgent TLC with people who have the interests for all that BRFC stands for. This cannot go on much longer before isolation seeps into my beloved bones all matters BRFC for just what is it that we as supporters are supporting here ?

January will be the make or break time for I in so far as Berg must be seen to be in control of all matters resulting in him bringing in competent staff ? Many I know who have supported BRFC for 30/40 years are becoming stagnant and disillusioned with that which belies our club. I fail to understand how the owners can allow, for us the supporters, in being isolated by such cowardly and drastic actions that have wrecked only havoc and misery onto not only the club, but the wider community ? If this is the plan of these owners etc then it is working perfectly, and should they commit as much to the playing side of things then we would be reaching the upper echelons of the football world such is the contrast !

At present I don't hold out much hope for a brighter future under present circumstances, but wander I will next week to Blackpool hoping that a performance can be witnessed of that what I believe to be BRFC ? Carry on with this abject failure, and nothing will be more certain(other than tax and death) that I will disappear from the BRFC scene looking back with irretrievable heartbreak in so far as VENKY will have broken me with the biggest calamity that as beset BRFC in all of it's 137 year history. Now we are out of the limelight of the Premier League the dark forces could just very well see the end of BRFC as we know it ?

Have we ever been in such a disastrous situation that we find ourselves in now ?

Answers please ?

Arte et labore
Hi RRR
Yes the have been worse situations before, I remmber a tale when they could not afford to pay the milkman.Have they ever had worse owners, a definate no, I have stated this before but eveyone employed down at Ewood in the top jobs and most of the players seems to have there nose in the trough, taking every penny they can get and sod the concequenses.
Outcome people like you and I will eventually stop going down to Ewood after years of suppoting our cub, why because we become fed up and there actually is more to life these days than being a football supporter.
My take on whats going on,HB, cheap option that does not appear be working, intead of going for an exerienced manager with his own staff.
Why has HB not brought his own staff in, he has had time to see CH is usless, is he being stopped from doing so in another cost saving exercise.
Shebbys gone very quite,owners have stopped coming again, it does not add up.
God help the club its going downhill very quickly, the only happy people down at Ewood seem to be certain agents who wont be named!!
[quote][p][bold]Road Runner Road Runner[/bold] wrote: Rats still scurry down the corridors of Ewood Park and Brockhall. Either Berg is as useless as the odious one or he is being manipulated behind the scenes ? Everyman and his dog can see that all is not well down at the good ship Ewood, but what is the actual reason for this abysmal showing that insists on rearing it's ugly head ? A comment above alludes to movement on the shambles that purports to be that of the coaching staff down at Ewood ? I would wish this to be the case if only to allow Berg the chance in proving himself with hand picked staff of his own. Seeing as we are not privy to what is happening wholly behind the scenes regards these players of substance missing in action I can only surmise that form and injury is hampering these players from being involved ? Should that not be the case then surely it is only a matter of time before the whole sorry mess is exposed ? The saga deepens and on the horizon appears no beacon of hope just a dark period becoming increasingly gloomy for us Rovers supporters, and most importantly for the club. The loons in Pune should give their heads a real good shake and realize that the club it purchased is fast becoming a ship heading for the rocks with disaster inevitable. Broken up on the rocks into irretrievable pieces that could very well spell the end of BRFC ? I wander aimlessly to games(mostly away) like a zombie with only memory before I - clutching at straws for better days ? Am I the only one who thought the atmosphere down at the Turf week last was subdued in contrast to the previous meetings from both sets of supporters ? Added to that a mere 12000 attending Ewood v Cardiff. This crisis is now becoming the norm, which from my perspective, can only become more entrenched should this debacle carry on. The honeymoon period of Bergs appointment is now well and truly over, and Berg must move quickly in how he wishes to proceed with these matters and hope that he makes the wise and correct decisions for our beloved ? In years gone by I have always looked for the core of BRFC for it's stability and success, but these last years this core, eroded, dank and abandoned leaves me with a chilling feeling that the 'dark forces' alluded to by a certain agent could very well be true ? Whichever maybe the case BRFC is in need of urgent TLC with people who have the interests for all that BRFC stands for. This cannot go on much longer before isolation seeps into my beloved bones all matters BRFC for just what is it that we as supporters are supporting here ? January will be the make or break time for I in so far as Berg must be seen to be in control of all matters resulting in him bringing in competent staff ? Many I know who have supported BRFC for 30/40 years are becoming stagnant and disillusioned with that which belies our club. I fail to understand how the owners can allow, for us the supporters, in being isolated by such cowardly and drastic actions that have wrecked only havoc and misery onto not only the club, but the wider community ? If this is the plan of these owners etc then it is working perfectly, and should they commit as much to the playing side of things then we would be reaching the upper echelons of the football world such is the contrast ! At present I don't hold out much hope for a brighter future under present circumstances, but wander I will next week to Blackpool hoping that a performance can be witnessed of that what I believe to be BRFC ? Carry on with this abject failure, and nothing will be more certain(other than tax and death) that I will disappear from the BRFC scene looking back with irretrievable heartbreak in so far as VENKY will have broken me with the biggest calamity that as beset BRFC in all of it's 137 year history. Now we are out of the limelight of the Premier League the dark forces could just very well see the end of BRFC as we know it ? Have we ever been in such a disastrous situation that we find ourselves in now ? Answers please ? Arte et labore[/p][/quote]Hi RRR Yes the have been worse situations before, I remmber a tale when they could not afford to pay the milkman.Have they ever had worse owners, a definate no, I have stated this before but eveyone employed down at Ewood in the top jobs and most of the players seems to have there nose in the trough, taking every penny they can get and sod the concequenses. Outcome people like you and I will eventually stop going down to Ewood after years of suppoting our cub, why because we become fed up and there actually is more to life these days than being a football supporter. My take on whats going on,HB, cheap option that does not appear be working, intead of going for an exerienced manager with his own staff. Why has HB not brought his own staff in, he has had time to see CH is usless, is he being stopped from doing so in another cost saving exercise. Shebbys gone very quite,owners have stopped coming again, it does not add up. God help the club its going downhill very quickly, the only happy people down at Ewood seem to be certain agents who wont be named!! Lancs - pensioner

1:20pm Sun 9 Dec 12

mickth says...

Definition of insanity is keep doing the same thing expecting different results. So lets appoint another bald non English completely inexperienced manager with the ability to keep a straight face coming out with the same platitudes game after game.

Berg may have potential but his appointment was a massive and unnecessary decision with so many experienced managers available.

Since he took over results and performances have incredibly enough. I didnt think that was possible in the same way that Scott Dann has proved that Chritian Dailly isn't the biggest defensive waste of money in history.

People keep telling me we have the best squad in the division, I just can't see that. We have a shattered keeper, only one central defender who can defend and he can't get in the team.,2 full backs who think they are wingers who don't have to bother defending. Our midfield is simply a joke, Etuhu and Murphy should simply be ashamed of their performances, the biggest pair of free loaders ever.

On top of that we have about 6 players who all want to play in the free no 10 role and no one who wants to do the hard work needed to get the best out of Rhodes.

Absolute joke of an organisation
Definition of insanity is keep doing the same thing expecting different results. So lets appoint another bald non English completely inexperienced manager with the ability to keep a straight face coming out with the same platitudes game after game. Berg may have potential but his appointment was a massive and unnecessary decision with so many experienced managers available. Since he took over results and performances have incredibly enough. I didnt think that was possible in the same way that Scott Dann has proved that Chritian Dailly isn't the biggest defensive waste of money in history. People keep telling me we have the best squad in the division, I just can't see that. We have a shattered keeper, only one central defender who can defend and he can't get in the team.,2 full backs who think they are wingers who don't have to bother defending. Our midfield is simply a joke, Etuhu and Murphy should simply be ashamed of their performances, the biggest pair of free loaders ever. On top of that we have about 6 players who all want to play in the free no 10 role and no one who wants to do the hard work needed to get the best out of Rhodes. Absolute joke of an organisation mickth

1:21pm Sun 9 Dec 12

penrithrover says...

Return of the m 7/ RU Insane /Blue blooded , I think you should know by now that we all know by now that you are on Rovers payroll .
Why in the name of all that is sacred and holy would a person be so aggressive against comments made by a fellow Rovers fan because the opinion of this genuine Rovers fan is is 6 points out of a possible 26 points is this good enough to trust this manager to give him more funds in January to bring in more players , or is it perhaps that you work hand in hand with agents ,and your agenda is that you want Rovers to keep buying players ,so your masters can keep the big fat agents commissions coming in.

NO ! NO MORE MONEY FOR NEW PLAYERS ,NO MORE MONEY FOR **** TRANSFERS AND MASSIVE AGENTS FEE`S.

Rhodes is a top player ,well worth the fee , but his assistant manager at Huddersfield ,was a well known guy to most of us at Rovers ,but also in the same Lytham (Taps) drinking gang as Hendry and Steve Kean , Ian (Dusty) Miller ,more cash for the boys.
Return of the m 7/ RU Insane /Blue blooded , I think you should know by now that we all know by now that you are on Rovers payroll . Why in the name of all that is sacred and holy would a person be so aggressive against comments made by a fellow Rovers fan because the opinion of this genuine Rovers fan is is 6 points out of a possible 26 points is this good enough to trust this manager to give him more funds in January to bring in more players , or is it perhaps that you work hand in hand with agents ,and your agenda is that you want Rovers to keep buying players ,so your masters can keep the big fat agents commissions coming in. NO ! NO MORE MONEY FOR NEW PLAYERS ,NO MORE MONEY FOR **** TRANSFERS AND MASSIVE AGENTS FEE`S. Rhodes is a top player ,well worth the fee , but his assistant manager at Huddersfield ,was a well known guy to most of us at Rovers ,but also in the same Lytham (Taps) drinking gang as Hendry and Steve Kean , Ian (Dusty) Miller ,more cash for the boys. penrithrover

1:25pm Sun 9 Dec 12

Arthur Labore says...

Time for our Global Advisor to go i think if he cant chose a decent manager!
Look what Mick McCarthy has done at Ipswich!!
Time for our Global Advisor to go i think if he cant chose a decent manager! Look what Mick McCarthy has done at Ipswich!! Arthur Labore

1:54pm Sun 9 Dec 12

Harwoodstblue says...

Lancs - pensioner wrote:
Road Runner Road Runner wrote:
Rats still scurry down the corridors of Ewood Park and Brockhall.

Either Berg is as useless as the odious one or he is being manipulated behind the scenes ?

Everyman and his dog can see that all is not well down at the good ship Ewood, but what is the actual reason for this abysmal showing that insists on rearing it's ugly head ?

A comment above alludes to movement on the shambles that purports to be that of the coaching staff down at Ewood ? I would wish this to be the case if only to allow Berg the chance in proving himself with hand picked staff of his own.

Seeing as we are not privy to what is happening wholly behind the scenes regards these players of substance missing in action I can only surmise that form and injury is hampering these players from being involved ? Should that not be the case then surely it is only a matter of time before the whole sorry mess is exposed ?

The saga deepens and on the horizon appears no beacon of hope just a dark period becoming increasingly gloomy for us Rovers supporters, and most importantly for the club.

The loons in Pune should give their heads a real good shake and realize that the club it purchased is fast becoming a ship heading for the rocks with disaster inevitable. Broken up on the rocks into irretrievable pieces that could very well spell the end of BRFC ?

I wander aimlessly to games(mostly away) like a zombie with only memory before I - clutching at straws for better days ? Am I the only one who thought the atmosphere down at the Turf week last was subdued in contrast to the previous meetings from both sets of supporters ? Added to that a mere 12000 attending Ewood v Cardiff. This crisis is now becoming the norm, which from my perspective, can only become more entrenched should this debacle carry on.

The honeymoon period of Bergs appointment is now well and truly over, and Berg must move quickly in how he wishes to proceed with these matters and hope that he makes the wise and correct decisions for our beloved ?

In years gone by I have always looked for the core of BRFC for it's stability and success, but these last years this core, eroded, dank and abandoned leaves me with a chilling feeling that the 'dark forces' alluded to by a certain agent could very well be true ?

Whichever maybe the case BRFC is in need of urgent TLC with people who have the interests for all that BRFC stands for. This cannot go on much longer before isolation seeps into my beloved bones all matters BRFC for just what is it that we as supporters are supporting here ?

January will be the make or break time for I in so far as Berg must be seen to be in control of all matters resulting in him bringing in competent staff ? Many I know who have supported BRFC for 30/40 years are becoming stagnant and disillusioned with that which belies our club. I fail to understand how the owners can allow, for us the supporters, in being isolated by such cowardly and drastic actions that have wrecked only havoc and misery onto not only the club, but the wider community ? If this is the plan of these owners etc then it is working perfectly, and should they commit as much to the playing side of things then we would be reaching the upper echelons of the football world such is the contrast !

At present I don't hold out much hope for a brighter future under present circumstances, but wander I will next week to Blackpool hoping that a performance can be witnessed of that what I believe to be BRFC ? Carry on with this abject failure, and nothing will be more certain(other than tax and death) that I will disappear from the BRFC scene looking back with irretrievable heartbreak in so far as VENKY will have broken me with the biggest calamity that as beset BRFC in all of it's 137 year history. Now we are out of the limelight of the Premier League the dark forces could just very well see the end of BRFC as we know it ?

Have we ever been in such a disastrous situation that we find ourselves in now ?

Answers please ?

Arte et labore
Hi RRR
Yes the have been worse situations before, I remmber a tale when they could not afford to pay the milkman.Have they ever had worse owners, a definate no, I have stated this before but eveyone employed down at Ewood in the top jobs and most of the players seems to have there nose in the trough, taking every penny they can get and sod the concequenses.
Outcome people like you and I will eventually stop going down to Ewood after years of suppoting our cub, why because we become fed up and there actually is more to life these days than being a football supporter.
My take on whats going on,HB, cheap option that does not appear be working, intead of going for an exerienced manager with his own staff.
Why has HB not brought his own staff in, he has had time to see CH is usless, is he being stopped from doing so in another cost saving exercise.
Shebbys gone very quite,owners have stopped coming again, it does not add up.
God help the club its going downhill very quickly, the only happy people down at Ewood seem to be certain agents who wont be named!!
JEROME ANDERSON
[quote][p][bold]Lancs - pensioner[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Road Runner Road Runner[/bold] wrote: Rats still scurry down the corridors of Ewood Park and Brockhall. Either Berg is as useless as the odious one or he is being manipulated behind the scenes ? Everyman and his dog can see that all is not well down at the good ship Ewood, but what is the actual reason for this abysmal showing that insists on rearing it's ugly head ? A comment above alludes to movement on the shambles that purports to be that of the coaching staff down at Ewood ? I would wish this to be the case if only to allow Berg the chance in proving himself with hand picked staff of his own. Seeing as we are not privy to what is happening wholly behind the scenes regards these players of substance missing in action I can only surmise that form and injury is hampering these players from being involved ? Should that not be the case then surely it is only a matter of time before the whole sorry mess is exposed ? The saga deepens and on the horizon appears no beacon of hope just a dark period becoming increasingly gloomy for us Rovers supporters, and most importantly for the club. The loons in Pune should give their heads a real good shake and realize that the club it purchased is fast becoming a ship heading for the rocks with disaster inevitable. Broken up on the rocks into irretrievable pieces that could very well spell the end of BRFC ? I wander aimlessly to games(mostly away) like a zombie with only memory before I - clutching at straws for better days ? Am I the only one who thought the atmosphere down at the Turf week last was subdued in contrast to the previous meetings from both sets of supporters ? Added to that a mere 12000 attending Ewood v Cardiff. This crisis is now becoming the norm, which from my perspective, can only become more entrenched should this debacle carry on. The honeymoon period of Bergs appointment is now well and truly over, and Berg must move quickly in how he wishes to proceed with these matters and hope that he makes the wise and correct decisions for our beloved ? In years gone by I have always looked for the core of BRFC for it's stability and success, but these last years this core, eroded, dank and abandoned leaves me with a chilling feeling that the 'dark forces' alluded to by a certain agent could very well be true ? Whichever maybe the case BRFC is in need of urgent TLC with people who have the interests for all that BRFC stands for. This cannot go on much longer before isolation seeps into my beloved bones all matters BRFC for just what is it that we as supporters are supporting here ? January will be the make or break time for I in so far as Berg must be seen to be in control of all matters resulting in him bringing in competent staff ? Many I know who have supported BRFC for 30/40 years are becoming stagnant and disillusioned with that which belies our club. I fail to understand how the owners can allow, for us the supporters, in being isolated by such cowardly and drastic actions that have wrecked only havoc and misery onto not only the club, but the wider community ? If this is the plan of these owners etc then it is working perfectly, and should they commit as much to the playing side of things then we would be reaching the upper echelons of the football world such is the contrast ! At present I don't hold out much hope for a brighter future under present circumstances, but wander I will next week to Blackpool hoping that a performance can be witnessed of that what I believe to be BRFC ? Carry on with this abject failure, and nothing will be more certain(other than tax and death) that I will disappear from the BRFC scene looking back with irretrievable heartbreak in so far as VENKY will have broken me with the biggest calamity that as beset BRFC in all of it's 137 year history. Now we are out of the limelight of the Premier League the dark forces could just very well see the end of BRFC as we know it ? Have we ever been in such a disastrous situation that we find ourselves in now ? Answers please ? Arte et labore[/p][/quote]Hi RRR Yes the have been worse situations before, I remmber a tale when they could not afford to pay the milkman.Have they ever had worse owners, a definate no, I have stated this before but eveyone employed down at Ewood in the top jobs and most of the players seems to have there nose in the trough, taking every penny they can get and sod the concequenses. Outcome people like you and I will eventually stop going down to Ewood after years of suppoting our cub, why because we become fed up and there actually is more to life these days than being a football supporter. My take on whats going on,HB, cheap option that does not appear be working, intead of going for an exerienced manager with his own staff. Why has HB not brought his own staff in, he has had time to see CH is usless, is he being stopped from doing so in another cost saving exercise. Shebbys gone very quite,owners have stopped coming again, it does not add up. God help the club its going downhill very quickly, the only happy people down at Ewood seem to be certain agents who wont be named!![/p][/quote]JEROME ANDERSON Harwoodstblue

1:58pm Sun 9 Dec 12

ghost of sceptic says...

We have to stick with Berg, cannot keep chopping and changing manager we need stability, only if we are in danger of free fall should Berg go we have to give him the chance to build his own team. Lets be realistic we can only now look forward to playoffs at best. The only change i would like to see is venkys out! you have destroyed our club.
We have to stick with Berg, cannot keep chopping and changing manager we need stability, only if we are in danger of free fall should Berg go we have to give him the chance to build his own team. Lets be realistic we can only now look forward to playoffs at best. The only change i would like to see is venkys out! you have destroyed our club. ghost of sceptic

2:27pm Sun 9 Dec 12

penrithrover says...

YES .OK fair enough we will stick with BERG , but PLEASE no Rovers transfer money in January for Berg ,there are a massive amount of comments from people who are surely on a someone`s devious payroll ,all along the lines of "BERG HAS TO BRING HIS OWN PLAYERS IN" "we need to buy in january" etc. surely all these comments are coming from the football agents via the mouth of agent`s lackeys, NO , NO ,NO no more money for agents.
Berg you knew the player we had when you were so eager for the job , you said you could get us promoted with his group of players , DO WHAT YOU PROMISED ! no more funds which one way or the other comes from the pockets of Rovers supporters ,no more money to fund the lifestyles of these football agents.
YES .OK fair enough we will stick with BERG , but PLEASE no Rovers transfer money in January for Berg ,there are a massive amount of comments from people who are surely on a someone`s devious payroll ,all along the lines of "BERG HAS TO BRING HIS OWN PLAYERS IN" "we need to buy in january" etc. surely all these comments are coming from the football agents via the mouth of agent`s lackeys, NO , NO ,NO no more money for agents. Berg you knew the player we had when you were so eager for the job , you said you could get us promoted with his group of players , DO WHAT YOU PROMISED ! no more funds which one way or the other comes from the pockets of Rovers supporters ,no more money to fund the lifestyles of these football agents. penrithrover

3:34pm Sun 9 Dec 12

silverstan says...

A Darener wrote:
Until it is mathematically impossible to get promoted then we cannot say that Berg is a failure. Just give him a chance. Nothing could be worse than still having Kean as manager.
Are you some kind of knob ?? I said it when ice berg was appointed & I stand by it, he will be a disaster & so far nothing he has done has changed my mind !!! We should be up the table looking down, not down looking up !!! Berg & the rest of the cuckoo club out !!!!!!!!!!!!11
[quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: Until it is mathematically impossible to get promoted then we cannot say that Berg is a failure. Just give him a chance. Nothing could be worse than still having Kean as manager.[/p][/quote]Are you some kind of knob ?? I said it when ice berg was appointed & I stand by it, he will be a disaster & so far nothing he has done has changed my mind !!! We should be up the table looking down, not down looking up !!! Berg & the rest of the cuckoo club out !!!!!!!!!!!!11 silverstan

3:34pm Sun 9 Dec 12

silverstan says...

A Darener wrote:
Until it is mathematically impossible to get promoted then we cannot say that Berg is a failure. Just give him a chance. Nothing could be worse than still having Kean as manager.
Are you some kind of knob ?? I said it when ice berg was appointed & I stand by it, he will be a disaster & so far nothing he has done has changed my mind !!! We should be up the table looking down, not down looking up !!! Berg & the rest of the cuckoo club out !!!!!!!!!!!!11
[quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: Until it is mathematically impossible to get promoted then we cannot say that Berg is a failure. Just give him a chance. Nothing could be worse than still having Kean as manager.[/p][/quote]Are you some kind of knob ?? I said it when ice berg was appointed & I stand by it, he will be a disaster & so far nothing he has done has changed my mind !!! We should be up the table looking down, not down looking up !!! Berg & the rest of the cuckoo club out !!!!!!!!!!!!11 silverstan

3:40pm Sun 9 Dec 12

A Darener says...

Penrith.... He did not promise promotion with this set of players. Don't be so naive, no manager could get these players to play as a team. We MUST buy in January otherwise we will plummet to the foot of the table with no hope of recovery. Unfortunately agents run the game of football, moving players around ad infinitum just so they can make money both for themselves and their players. The only alternative is to develop your own, but that takes time and we just don't have it. Getting rid of high paid players and the deadwood is the only way to go.
Penrith.... He did not promise promotion with this set of players. Don't be so naive, no manager could get these players to play as a team. We MUST buy in January otherwise we will plummet to the foot of the table with no hope of recovery. Unfortunately agents run the game of football, moving players around ad infinitum just so they can make money both for themselves and their players. The only alternative is to develop your own, but that takes time and we just don't have it. Getting rid of high paid players and the deadwood is the only way to go. A Darener

3:44pm Sun 9 Dec 12

A Darener says...

Silverstan..NO! I am not "some kind of knob" whatever one of those is. We have to give him a chance. Even Sir Alex would struggle to build a team out of this current set of players. Not until Henning can bring his own players/back room staff in can we hope to see any improvement.
Silverstan..NO! I am not "some kind of knob" whatever one of those is. We have to give him a chance. Even Sir Alex would struggle to build a team out of this current set of players. Not until Henning can bring his own players/back room staff in can we hope to see any improvement. A Darener

3:51pm Sun 9 Dec 12

samblue says...

The so-called 'pundits' keep going on about what a strong squad we've got, but when you start to analyse it, quite a different picture emerges.
Take the main squad players:
Robinson - A good shot-stopper, but positioning lets him down and he fails to command his area.
Henley - Bags of potential and energy, but obviously lacks experience.
Dann - Has been one of more consistent performers this season, but still prone to numerous, and very costly mistakes.
Hanley - Still developing and would improve with a better defensive partner.
Martin Ollson - Often caught out of postion at full back but could be better employed on left midfield.
Givet - Someone who always gives 100 per cent, but again can be caught out by quick attackers, but at least he tackles.
Formica - Drifts in and out of games and seldom makes any real impact.
Murphy - Too slow for the Championship, caught in possession far too often, rarely finds a defence-splitting pass and rarely tackles, plus no apparent leadership.
Etuhu - Again too slow. For a big man, his tackling is atrocious and he seldom makes an impact.
Marcus Ollson - Enthusiastic but not up to standard, rarely using his pace to get to the line.
King - Head down and runs as fast as he can with the ball and hope he doesn't get tackled before he belatedly decides to try to pass.
Rhodes - It's a bonus he's reached double figures with the abysmal service he receives. Desperately needs a good target man to play alongside.
Kazim-Richards - Has potential to frighten defences if only he showed more poise and tried passing more often.
Pedersen - Still probably covers more ground than anyone else, but the quality of his crosses and deadball kicks has dropped.
Dunn - Probably the most die-hard Rovers player, it's such a shame he's so injury prone.
Vukevic - Has been very lively in his few 'cameo' appearances and could make a difference if given a run in the side.
Gomes - Quality player, but hardly used now. Could be a foil for Rhodes.
Rochina - Probably our most talented player, but also the most frustrating.
Lowe - Doesn't make an impact in central midfield, and too often plays the ball backwards instead of forwards. Still time to develop, but could he be better at full back?
The so-called 'pundits' keep going on about what a strong squad we've got, but when you start to analyse it, quite a different picture emerges. Take the main squad players: Robinson - A good shot-stopper, but positioning lets him down and he fails to command his area. Henley - Bags of potential and energy, but obviously lacks experience. Dann - Has been one of more consistent performers this season, but still prone to numerous, and very costly mistakes. Hanley - Still developing and would improve with a better defensive partner. Martin Ollson - Often caught out of postion at full back but could be better employed on left midfield. Givet - Someone who always gives 100 per cent, but again can be caught out by quick attackers, but at least he tackles. Formica - Drifts in and out of games and seldom makes any real impact. Murphy - Too slow for the Championship, caught in possession far too often, rarely finds a defence-splitting pass and rarely tackles, plus no apparent leadership. Etuhu - Again too slow. For a big man, his tackling is atrocious and he seldom makes an impact. Marcus Ollson - Enthusiastic but not up to standard, rarely using his pace to get to the line. King - Head down and runs as fast as he can with the ball and hope he doesn't get tackled before he belatedly decides to try to pass. Rhodes - It's a bonus he's reached double figures with the abysmal service he receives. Desperately needs a good target man to play alongside. Kazim-Richards - Has potential to frighten defences if only he showed more poise and tried passing more often. Pedersen - Still probably covers more ground than anyone else, but the quality of his crosses and deadball kicks has dropped. Dunn - Probably the most die-hard Rovers player, it's such a shame he's so injury prone. Vukevic - Has been very lively in his few 'cameo' appearances and could make a difference if given a run in the side. Gomes - Quality player, but hardly used now. Could be a foil for Rhodes. Rochina - Probably our most talented player, but also the most frustrating. Lowe - Doesn't make an impact in central midfield, and too often plays the ball backwards instead of forwards. Still time to develop, but could he be better at full back? samblue

3:52pm Sun 9 Dec 12

juanbbien says...

They are not going to get rid of Hendry until he has been there long enough to repay whoever he owes money too connected with the board or in some capacity,your guess is as good as mine,otherwise why would he still be employed,as his record is p!ss poor,any manager coming in usually has is own training set up in order to have a clean sweep,this is what worried me with Bergs appiontment,I know that these are not his players but he seems to have had no success with tactics,what team to play,upping the fitness levels,creating a desire to win,
They are not going to get rid of Hendry until he has been there long enough to repay whoever he owes money too connected with the board or in some capacity,your guess is as good as mine,otherwise why would he still be employed,as his record is p!ss poor,any manager coming in usually has is own training set up in order to have a clean sweep,this is what worried me with Bergs appiontment,I know that these are not his players but he seems to have had no success with tactics,what team to play,upping the fitness levels,creating a desire to win, juanbbien

4:15pm Sun 9 Dec 12

Return of the Magnificent se7en says...

penrithrover wrote:
Return of the m 7/ RU Insane /Blue blooded , I think you should know by now that we all know by now that you are on Rovers payroll .
Why in the name of all that is sacred and holy would a person be so aggressive against comments made by a fellow Rovers fan because the opinion of this genuine Rovers fan is is 6 points out of a possible 26 points is this good enough to trust this manager to give him more funds in January to bring in more players , or is it perhaps that you work hand in hand with agents ,and your agenda is that you want Rovers to keep buying players ,so your masters can keep the big fat agents commissions coming in.

NO ! NO MORE MONEY FOR NEW PLAYERS ,NO MORE MONEY FOR **** TRANSFERS AND MASSIVE AGENTS FEE`S.

Rhodes is a top player ,well worth the fee , but his assistant manager at Huddersfield ,was a well known guy to most of us at Rovers ,but also in the same Lytham (Taps) drinking gang as Hendry and Steve Kean , Ian (Dusty) Miller ,more cash for the boys.
I'm not aggressive towards anyone, I just think you type is turd,and you think if you put your caps lock on,it somehow gives what you type more credibility. But in fact its just capital turd.
Why do you bother coming on here bad mouthing another rovers legend? So far to your credit you have bad mouthed Berg, Hendry and now miller, who TF are you to dish out such unrelenting turd. can you not cut it off and flush, this is the longest turd in the world, I hope you ring the council up and tell them there is another one on the way so they can take a gas axe to it when it arrives.
[quote][p][bold]penrithrover[/bold] wrote: Return of the m 7/ RU Insane /Blue blooded , I think you should know by now that we all know by now that you are on Rovers payroll . Why in the name of all that is sacred and holy would a person be so aggressive against comments made by a fellow Rovers fan because the opinion of this genuine Rovers fan is is 6 points out of a possible 26 points is this good enough to trust this manager to give him more funds in January to bring in more players , or is it perhaps that you work hand in hand with agents ,and your agenda is that you want Rovers to keep buying players ,so your masters can keep the big fat agents commissions coming in. NO ! NO MORE MONEY FOR NEW PLAYERS ,NO MORE MONEY FOR **** TRANSFERS AND MASSIVE AGENTS FEE`S. Rhodes is a top player ,well worth the fee , but his assistant manager at Huddersfield ,was a well known guy to most of us at Rovers ,but also in the same Lytham (Taps) drinking gang as Hendry and Steve Kean , Ian (Dusty) Miller ,more cash for the boys.[/p][/quote]I'm not aggressive towards anyone, I just think you type is turd,and you think if you put your caps lock on,it somehow gives what you type more credibility. But in fact its just capital turd. Why do you bother coming on here bad mouthing another rovers legend? So far to your credit you have bad mouthed Berg, Hendry and now miller, who TF are you to dish out such unrelenting turd. can you not cut it off and flush, this is the longest turd in the world, I hope you ring the council up and tell them there is another one on the way so they can take a gas axe to it when it arrives. Return of the Magnificent se7en

4:19pm Sun 9 Dec 12

Road Runner Road Runner says...

Ronaldpetercooper wrote:
Road Runner Road Runner wrote:
Rats still scurry down the corridors of Ewood Park and Brockhall. Either Berg is as useless as the odious one or he is being manipulated behind the scenes ? Everyman and his dog can see that all is not well down at the good ship Ewood, but what is the actual reason for this abysmal showing that insists on rearing it's ugly head ? A comment above alludes to movement on the shambles that purports to be that of the coaching staff down at Ewood ? I would wish this to be the case if only to allow Berg the chance in proving himself with hand picked staff of his own. Seeing as we are not privy to what is happening wholly behind the scenes regards these players of substance missing in action I can only surmise that form and injury is hampering these players from being involved ? Should that not be the case then surely it is only a matter of time before the whole sorry mess is exposed ? The saga deepens and on the horizon appears no beacon of hope just a dark period becoming increasingly gloomy for us Rovers supporters, and most importantly for the club. The loons in Pune should give their heads a real good shake and realize that the club it purchased is fast becoming a ship heading for the rocks with disaster inevitable. Broken up on the rocks into irretrievable pieces that could very well spell the end of BRFC ? I wander aimlessly to games(mostly away) like a zombie with only memory before I - clutching at straws for better days ? Am I the only one who thought the atmosphere down at the Turf week last was subdued in contrast to the previous meetings from both sets of supporters ? Added to that a mere 12000 attending Ewood v Cardiff. This crisis is now becoming the norm, which from my perspective, can only become more entrenched should this debacle carry on. The honeymoon period of Bergs appointment is now well and truly over, and Berg must move quickly in how he wishes to proceed with these matters and hope that he makes the wise and correct decisions for our beloved ? In years gone by I have always looked for the core of BRFC for it's stability and success, but these last years this core, eroded, dank and abandoned leaves me with a chilling feeling that the 'dark forces' alluded to by a certain agent could very well be true ? Whichever maybe the case BRFC is in need of urgent TLC with people who have the interests for all that BRFC stands for. This cannot go on much longer before isolation seeps into my beloved bones all matters BRFC for just what is it that we as supporters are supporting here ? January will be the make or break time for I in so far as Berg must be seen to be in control of all matters resulting in him bringing in competent staff ? Many I know who have supported BRFC for 30/40 years are becoming stagnant and disillusioned with that which belies our club. I fail to understand how the owners can allow, for us the supporters, in being isolated by such cowardly and drastic actions that have wrecked only havoc and misery onto not only the club, but the wider community ? If this is the plan of these owners etc then it is working perfectly, and should they commit as much to the playing side of things then we would be reaching the upper echelons of the football world such is the contrast ! At present I don't hold out much hope for a brighter future under present circumstances, but wander I will next week to Blackpool hoping that a performance can be witnessed of that what I believe to be BRFC ? Carry on with this abject failure, and nothing will be more certain(other than tax and death) that I will disappear from the BRFC scene looking back with irretrievable heartbreak in so far as VENKY will have broken me with the biggest calamity that as beset BRFC in all of it's 137 year history. Now we are out of the limelight of the Premier League the dark forces could just very well see the end of BRFC as we know it ? Have we ever been in such a disastrous situation that we find ourselves in now ? Answers please ? Arte et labore
Hi RR Good post! I have only now been able to look at the site as been in shock at the gutless performance on Friday. It was shambolic with very few decent performances. It has got to the stage that I almost walk away when I hear the chosen 11. Sadly most of these are not good enough.
Most of us on here can remember dark days before since the 1960s and remain here but this lot do not appear to have pride or effort and we need a good clear out or at least some good fighters imported pretty dam quick. I for the life of me cannot understand why fighters on our books are not chosen such as Givet Simon and even Pederson. Dunn will also be welcome back when fit. Whilst we may critisise these players they will at least fight on our behalf. We must hope and pray that someone makes improvements soon and sorts this lot out.
Hi RPC, lancs Pensioner -

Not to contradict you here LP, but at least when we had no coin to pay the bill as such our dignity was intact. Having no money is no shameful thing, but rubbing along with what you have to the best of your ability's looking toward a future that is bright because we have the desire, commitment, and most importantly a link to all that is worth preserving ?

Ours is in no way deserving of any preferential treatment, but this chasm that is being created is gut wrenching for the likes of myself, maybe it's down to the period of time supporting BRFC - I'm not fully sure, but what I am witnessing, even allowing for positive thoughts along the way, is total and utter degradation of duty towards all that have supported it with the shambolic set up.

RPC quite rightly states the standard of the players at this time in a B&W shirt. Simply not good enough. The whole set up as had no real preparation for live in the Championship, through what I believe to be, idiotic conjectures by utter and useless novices with a dream including the notorious odious one at the helm spluttering and flimflamming along acquiring at the same time players of obvious quality's, but never in a million years up to the rigours of English football. Taking away the players beginning with the first out the door the 'Rolls Royce' (warts and all) Emerton we have been left with fringe players of a first team squad, which under normal circumstances would be learning their trade under good stewardship, in hoping to replace the aging players further down the line. The buffoon and oaf SK always said didn't he

'these are players for the future' and what a fiasco it as turned out to be. Those players confidence is totally shattered with what as/is going on down at Ewood thus we see this cockeyed attempt at cohesion etc on the pitch.

Berg is the last redeeming feature for I, and I hope he can turn this all sorry mess around with brave actions finally creating stability for the club to halt this drastic decline that we have as Blackburn Rovers supporters attempted to do on pages such as these.

A winning formula must be found quickly, and not just on the pitch or those dark days of obscurity will again become the norm. And the most damaging aspect in all of this for me as a long time supporter of BRFC is the legacy of the late J Walker does not seem to matter, and after stating they would always uphold the fine traditions of this working town wishing to add to that history have done the exact opposite, and that is now, having watched the team under these preposterous owners and their cohorts become a circus. We have been poo down the years in spells, but this is a whole new crisis that involves huge amounts of money absolutely jeopardising the very existence of that which we have reared ourselves on with BRFC.

With age comes wisdom they say - well, I hope I have acquired some of that, and from this standpoint it seems clear, and above all true, as we speak today.

I say nothing new to that which hasn't already been said, but the sadness of all this is that 2 years + we are still speaking about it, and with greater trepidation. The story is there !

Sort this mess out.

Arte et labore
[quote][p][bold]Ronaldpetercooper[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Road Runner Road Runner[/bold] wrote: Rats still scurry down the corridors of Ewood Park and Brockhall. Either Berg is as useless as the odious one or he is being manipulated behind the scenes ? Everyman and his dog can see that all is not well down at the good ship Ewood, but what is the actual reason for this abysmal showing that insists on rearing it's ugly head ? A comment above alludes to movement on the shambles that purports to be that of the coaching staff down at Ewood ? I would wish this to be the case if only to allow Berg the chance in proving himself with hand picked staff of his own. Seeing as we are not privy to what is happening wholly behind the scenes regards these players of substance missing in action I can only surmise that form and injury is hampering these players from being involved ? Should that not be the case then surely it is only a matter of time before the whole sorry mess is exposed ? The saga deepens and on the horizon appears no beacon of hope just a dark period becoming increasingly gloomy for us Rovers supporters, and most importantly for the club. The loons in Pune should give their heads a real good shake and realize that the club it purchased is fast becoming a ship heading for the rocks with disaster inevitable. Broken up on the rocks into irretrievable pieces that could very well spell the end of BRFC ? I wander aimlessly to games(mostly away) like a zombie with only memory before I - clutching at straws for better days ? Am I the only one who thought the atmosphere down at the Turf week last was subdued in contrast to the previous meetings from both sets of supporters ? Added to that a mere 12000 attending Ewood v Cardiff. This crisis is now becoming the norm, which from my perspective, can only become more entrenched should this debacle carry on. The honeymoon period of Bergs appointment is now well and truly over, and Berg must move quickly in how he wishes to proceed with these matters and hope that he makes the wise and correct decisions for our beloved ? In years gone by I have always looked for the core of BRFC for it's stability and success, but these last years this core, eroded, dank and abandoned leaves me with a chilling feeling that the 'dark forces' alluded to by a certain agent could very well be true ? Whichever maybe the case BRFC is in need of urgent TLC with people who have the interests for all that BRFC stands for. This cannot go on much longer before isolation seeps into my beloved bones all matters BRFC for just what is it that we as supporters are supporting here ? January will be the make or break time for I in so far as Berg must be seen to be in control of all matters resulting in him bringing in competent staff ? Many I know who have supported BRFC for 30/40 years are becoming stagnant and disillusioned with that which belies our club. I fail to understand how the owners can allow, for us the supporters, in being isolated by such cowardly and drastic actions that have wrecked only havoc and misery onto not only the club, but the wider community ? If this is the plan of these owners etc then it is working perfectly, and should they commit as much to the playing side of things then we would be reaching the upper echelons of the football world such is the contrast ! At present I don't hold out much hope for a brighter future under present circumstances, but wander I will next week to Blackpool hoping that a performance can be witnessed of that what I believe to be BRFC ? Carry on with this abject failure, and nothing will be more certain(other than tax and death) that I will disappear from the BRFC scene looking back with irretrievable heartbreak in so far as VENKY will have broken me with the biggest calamity that as beset BRFC in all of it's 137 year history. Now we are out of the limelight of the Premier League the dark forces could just very well see the end of BRFC as we know it ? Have we ever been in such a disastrous situation that we find ourselves in now ? Answers please ? Arte et labore[/p][/quote]Hi RR Good post! I have only now been able to look at the site as been in shock at the gutless performance on Friday. It was shambolic with very few decent performances. It has got to the stage that I almost walk away when I hear the chosen 11. Sadly most of these are not good enough. Most of us on here can remember dark days before since the 1960s and remain here but this lot do not appear to have pride or effort and we need a good clear out or at least some good fighters imported pretty dam quick. I for the life of me cannot understand why fighters on our books are not chosen such as Givet Simon and even Pederson. Dunn will also be welcome back when fit. Whilst we may critisise these players they will at least fight on our behalf. We must hope and pray that someone makes improvements soon and sorts this lot out.[/p][/quote]Hi RPC, lancs Pensioner - Not to contradict you here LP, but at least when we had no coin to pay the bill as such our dignity was intact. Having no money is no shameful thing, but rubbing along with what you have to the best of your ability's looking toward a future that is bright because we have the desire, commitment, and most importantly a link to all that is worth preserving ? Ours is in no way deserving of any preferential treatment, but this chasm that is being created is gut wrenching for the likes of myself, maybe it's down to the period of time supporting BRFC - I'm not fully sure, but what I am witnessing, even allowing for positive thoughts along the way, is total and utter degradation of duty towards all that have supported it with the shambolic set up. RPC quite rightly states the standard of the players at this time in a B&W shirt. Simply not good enough. The whole set up as had no real preparation for live in the Championship, through what I believe to be, idiotic conjectures by utter and useless novices with a dream including the notorious odious one at the helm spluttering and flimflamming along acquiring at the same time players of obvious quality's, but never in a million years up to the rigours of English football. Taking away the players beginning with the first out the door the 'Rolls Royce' (warts and all) Emerton we have been left with fringe players of a first team squad, which under normal circumstances would be learning their trade under good stewardship, in hoping to replace the aging players further down the line. The buffoon and oaf SK always said didn't he 'these are players for the future' and what a fiasco it as turned out to be. Those players confidence is totally shattered with what as/is going on down at Ewood thus we see this cockeyed attempt at cohesion etc on the pitch. Berg is the last redeeming feature for I, and I hope he can turn this all sorry mess around with brave actions finally creating stability for the club to halt this drastic decline that we have as Blackburn Rovers supporters attempted to do on pages such as these. A winning formula must be found quickly, and not just on the pitch or those dark days of obscurity will again become the norm. And the most damaging aspect in all of this for me as a long time supporter of BRFC is the legacy of the late J Walker does not seem to matter, and after stating they would always uphold the fine traditions of this working town wishing to add to that history have done the exact opposite, and that is now, having watched the team under these preposterous owners and their cohorts become a circus. We have been poo down the years in spells, but this is a whole new crisis that involves huge amounts of money absolutely jeopardising the very existence of that which we have reared ourselves on with BRFC. With age comes wisdom they say - well, I hope I have acquired some of that, and from this standpoint it seems clear, and above all true, as we speak today. I say nothing new to that which hasn't already been said, but the sadness of all this is that 2 years + we are still speaking about it, and with greater trepidation. The story is there ! Sort this mess out. Arte et labore Road Runner Road Runner

4:21pm Sun 9 Dec 12

Return of the Magnificent se7en says...

ghost of sceptic wrote:
We have to stick with Berg, cannot keep chopping and changing manager we need stability, only if we are in danger of free fall should Berg go we have to give him the chance to build his own team. Lets be realistic we can only now look forward to playoffs at best. The only change i would like to see is venkys out! you have destroyed our club.
Nah mate, most on here want the manager unless we win so we will keep sacking one every time we get beat, we could turn it into a new game show. They don't want stability just to win or sack
[quote][p][bold]ghost of sceptic[/bold] wrote: We have to stick with Berg, cannot keep chopping and changing manager we need stability, only if we are in danger of free fall should Berg go we have to give him the chance to build his own team. Lets be realistic we can only now look forward to playoffs at best. The only change i would like to see is venkys out! you have destroyed our club.[/p][/quote]Nah mate, most on here want the manager unless we win so we will keep sacking one every time we get beat, we could turn it into a new game show. They don't want stability just to win or sack Return of the Magnificent se7en

4:47pm Sun 9 Dec 12

Road Runner Road Runner says...

My apologies for waffling on today.

Quiet reflection on a Sunday, I guess ?

Enjoy the rest folk's :)

Arte et labore
My apologies for waffling on today. Quiet reflection on a Sunday, I guess ? Enjoy the rest folk's :) Arte et labore Road Runner Road Runner

5:04pm Sun 9 Dec 12

penrithrover says...

Return of the Magnificent se7en wrote:
penrithrover wrote:
Return of the m 7/ RU Insane /Blue blooded , I think you should know by now that we all know by now that you are on Rovers payroll .
Why in the name of all that is sacred and holy would a person be so aggressive against comments made by a fellow Rovers fan because the opinion of this genuine Rovers fan is is 6 points out of a possible 26 points is this good enough to trust this manager to give him more funds in January to bring in more players , or is it perhaps that you work hand in hand with agents ,and your agenda is that you want Rovers to keep buying players ,so your masters can keep the big fat agents commissions coming in.

NO ! NO MORE MONEY FOR NEW PLAYERS ,NO MORE MONEY FOR **** TRANSFERS AND MASSIVE AGENTS FEE`S.

Rhodes is a top player ,well worth the fee , but his assistant manager at Huddersfield ,was a well known guy to most of us at Rovers ,but also in the same Lytham (Taps) drinking gang as Hendry and Steve Kean , Ian (Dusty) Miller ,more cash for the boys.
I'm not aggressive towards anyone, I just think you type is turd,and you think if you put your caps lock on,it somehow gives what you type more credibility. But in fact its just capital turd.
Why do you bother coming on here bad mouthing another rovers legend? So far to your credit you have bad mouthed Berg, Hendry and now miller, who TF are you to dish out such unrelenting turd. can you not cut it off and flush, this is the longest turd in the world, I hope you ring the council up and tell them there is another one on the way so they can take a gas axe to it when it arrives.
O.K , Colin , you get your accumulator up at the bookies this weekend ? well it`s all going to Taylors the bookies so stays in the Rovers gang of gypsies,tramps and thieves.
Goodness , have I hurt the feelings of a legend ? a scheming manipulative bankrupt ,swindler, gambler who bashes up women and ends up spending his weekends in Blackpool Jail, THIS IS ALL FACTS , do you think I give a tommy tit if I hurt the feelings of a scumbags like that, **** off you clown.

There is right and there is wrong ,there is honest and there is dishonest, there is people who stand up for the truth and there are people like you that hide and cannot cope with the truth.
[quote][p][bold]Return of the Magnificent se7en[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]penrithrover[/bold] wrote: Return of the m 7/ RU Insane /Blue blooded , I think you should know by now that we all know by now that you are on Rovers payroll . Why in the name of all that is sacred and holy would a person be so aggressive against comments made by a fellow Rovers fan because the opinion of this genuine Rovers fan is is 6 points out of a possible 26 points is this good enough to trust this manager to give him more funds in January to bring in more players , or is it perhaps that you work hand in hand with agents ,and your agenda is that you want Rovers to keep buying players ,so your masters can keep the big fat agents commissions coming in. NO ! NO MORE MONEY FOR NEW PLAYERS ,NO MORE MONEY FOR **** TRANSFERS AND MASSIVE AGENTS FEE`S. Rhodes is a top player ,well worth the fee , but his assistant manager at Huddersfield ,was a well known guy to most of us at Rovers ,but also in the same Lytham (Taps) drinking gang as Hendry and Steve Kean , Ian (Dusty) Miller ,more cash for the boys.[/p][/quote]I'm not aggressive towards anyone, I just think you type is turd,and you think if you put your caps lock on,it somehow gives what you type more credibility. But in fact its just capital turd. Why do you bother coming on here bad mouthing another rovers legend? So far to your credit you have bad mouthed Berg, Hendry and now miller, who TF are you to dish out such unrelenting turd. can you not cut it off and flush, this is the longest turd in the world, I hope you ring the council up and tell them there is another one on the way so they can take a gas axe to it when it arrives.[/p][/quote]O.K , Colin , you get your accumulator up at the bookies this weekend ? well it`s all going to Taylors the bookies so stays in the Rovers gang of gypsies,tramps and thieves. Goodness , have I hurt the feelings of a legend ? a scheming manipulative bankrupt ,swindler, gambler who bashes up women and ends up spending his weekends in Blackpool Jail, THIS IS ALL FACTS , do you think I give a tommy tit if I hurt the feelings of a scumbags like that, **** off you clown. There is right and there is wrong ,there is honest and there is dishonest, there is people who stand up for the truth and there are people like you that hide and cannot cope with the truth. penrithrover

6:11pm Sun 9 Dec 12

Dan11 says...

Something is seriously rotten at the club.Why is that drunken scamming scumbag liar Hendry still at the club again? What does he contribute to the performances of our defence? Why are certain players completely frozen out of the first team action, as was the case last season, who are clearly far superior to some of the players in the team.

Is the central midfield pairing of Etuhu and Murphy the worst we have had over 20 years? Does Dann make Christian Dailly look like Franco Baresi? Why is Berg still picking Scott Dann, he is one man wrecking machine at the heart of our defence! Why does he still pick Hanley, the lad is not good enough! Bring in a loan player and pair that loan player with Givet until January!

Why are the Venkys all quiet including Shebby! Please sort this horrible mess out. Unless you do we will be staring at another season in the championship.
Something is seriously rotten at the club.Why is that drunken scamming scumbag liar Hendry still at the club again? What does he contribute to the performances of our defence? Why are certain players completely frozen out of the first team action, as was the case last season, who are clearly far superior to some of the players in the team. Is the central midfield pairing of Etuhu and Murphy the worst we have had over 20 years? Does Dann make Christian Dailly look like Franco Baresi? Why is Berg still picking Scott Dann, he is one man wrecking machine at the heart of our defence! Why does he still pick Hanley, the lad is not good enough! Bring in a loan player and pair that loan player with Givet until January! Why are the Venkys all quiet including Shebby! Please sort this horrible mess out. Unless you do we will be staring at another season in the championship. Dan11

6:14pm Sun 9 Dec 12

Dan11 says...

It is no surprise we are in free fall when our central defence pairing is now Dann and Hanley and our central midfield is either one or both of Murphy and Etuhu.
Thats pretty much it really.

Berg needs to start picking the best players from his squad, if he cannot even do that, we are going to be at the wrong end of the Championship come the new year.
It is no surprise we are in free fall when our central defence pairing is now Dann and Hanley and our central midfield is either one or both of Murphy and Etuhu. Thats pretty much it really. Berg needs to start picking the best players from his squad, if he cannot even do that, we are going to be at the wrong end of the Championship come the new year. Dan11

6:18pm Sun 9 Dec 12

dangerous dave says...

blueblooded - if I knew who you were I would have you in court quicker then you would know with your slanderous comments - take note I am taking your vile comments further!!!
blueblooded - if I knew who you were I would have you in court quicker then you would know with your slanderous comments - take note I am taking your vile comments further!!! dangerous dave

6:23pm Sun 9 Dec 12

dangerous dave says...

please remove 'blueblooded' from allowing comments on this site - his vile comments which are totally untrue and are very hurtful - please supply me with his details as I wish to take further action against this character!!!!!!!
Comments on football and deep held views I can accept but vile posts I cannot
please remove 'blueblooded' from allowing comments on this site - his vile comments which are totally untrue and are very hurtful - please supply me with his details as I wish to take further action against this character!!!!!!! Comments on football and deep held views I can accept but vile posts I cannot dangerous dave

6:34pm Sun 9 Dec 12

Return of the Magnificent se7en says...

dangerous dave wrote:
please remove 'blueblooded' from allowing comments on this site - his vile comments which are totally untrue and are very hurtful - please supply me with his details as I wish to take further action against this character!!!!!!!
Comments on football and deep held views I can accept but vile posts I cannot
No different to your comments calling Hendry a women beater, plural, and as yet he has not even been charged once with such a crime. Isn't that libelous? You want to hope that the LT delete all your posts that contain that phrase that you have posted over the last few months, otherwise someone may use the archive to ammass a multitude of offences against you, and then sueing you out of every penney you have leaving you only with your turd filled underpants.
[quote][p][bold]dangerous dave[/bold] wrote: please remove 'blueblooded' from allowing comments on this site - his vile comments which are totally untrue and are very hurtful - please supply me with his details as I wish to take further action against this character!!!!!!! Comments on football and deep held views I can accept but vile posts I cannot[/p][/quote]No different to your comments calling Hendry a women beater, plural, and as yet he has not even been charged once with such a crime. Isn't that libelous? You want to hope that the LT delete all your posts that contain that phrase that you have posted over the last few months, otherwise someone may use the archive to ammass a multitude of offences against you, and then sueing you out of every penney you have leaving you only with your turd filled underpants. Return of the Magnificent se7en

6:38pm Sun 9 Dec 12

Return of the Magnificent se7en says...

Return of the Magnificent se7en wrote:
dangerous dave wrote:
please remove 'blueblooded' from allowing comments on this site - his vile comments which are totally untrue and are very hurtful - please supply me with his details as I wish to take further action against this character!!!!!!!
Comments on football and deep held views I can accept but vile posts I cannot
No different to your comments calling Hendry a women beater, plural, and as yet he has not even been charged once with such a crime. Isn't that libelous? You want to hope that the LT delete all your posts that contain that phrase that you have posted over the last few months, otherwise someone may use the archive to ammass a multitude of offences against you, and then sueing you out of every penney you have leaving you only with your turd filled underpants.
OOps sorry dangerous dave, that reply was for penrith, saying that you are two of the caps lock kings but at least what you type isn't libelous like his are.
[quote][p][bold]Return of the Magnificent se7en[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dangerous dave[/bold] wrote: please remove 'blueblooded' from allowing comments on this site - his vile comments which are totally untrue and are very hurtful - please supply me with his details as I wish to take further action against this character!!!!!!! Comments on football and deep held views I can accept but vile posts I cannot[/p][/quote]No different to your comments calling Hendry a women beater, plural, and as yet he has not even been charged once with such a crime. Isn't that libelous? You want to hope that the LT delete all your posts that contain that phrase that you have posted over the last few months, otherwise someone may use the archive to ammass a multitude of offences against you, and then sueing you out of every penney you have leaving you only with your turd filled underpants.[/p][/quote]OOps sorry dangerous dave, that reply was for penrith, saying that you are two of the caps lock kings but at least what you type isn't libelous like his are. Return of the Magnificent se7en

6:43pm Sun 9 Dec 12

Return of the Magnificent se7en says...

Anyway, Ive just finished watching west ham v liverpool, two contrasting styles if ever there were.
Lump it Long v short and sweet
Hoof it high v keep it neat.
Hit and hope v pass and move
Hoofball v Football
Aussie rules v the beutiful game.
Thudd and blunder v skill and craft.
Hooves v feet
Anyway, Ive just finished watching west ham v liverpool, two contrasting styles if ever there were. Lump it Long v short and sweet Hoof it high v keep it neat. Hit and hope v pass and move Hoofball v Football Aussie rules v the beutiful game. Thudd and blunder v skill and craft. Hooves v feet Return of the Magnificent se7en

6:49pm Sun 9 Dec 12

dangerous dave says...

return of the magnificent se7en - keep me out of your posts and dont involve me with any other posters on this site - vile comnets I cannot cope with and will not accept!!
return of the magnificent se7en - keep me out of your posts and dont involve me with any other posters on this site - vile comnets I cannot cope with and will not accept!! dangerous dave

7:27pm Sun 9 Dec 12

roverfor60years says...

Road Runner Road Runner wrote:
My apologies for waffling on today.

Quiet reflection on a Sunday, I guess ?

Enjoy the rest folk's :)

Arte et labore
Many true and heartfelt words Road Runner. I, too, well remember when the club couldn't pay its bills. I was a supplier, owed thousands. But Bill Fox, the then chairman, used to ask me to meet him at Ewood at 9 o'clock on Monday mornings (or the day after the match) so that he could give me a bag of cash before the bank got their hands on it. A chairman and board with honour and integrity. A far cry from today's deaf and dumb owners in Pune who have wreaked so much, possibly irreparable, damage on a once-proud club and its community.

I've enjoyed reading your comments, along with others, today, though with sadness and I think you should all make sure you get your comments directly to Shebby at Ewood.
[quote][p][bold]Road Runner Road Runner[/bold] wrote: My apologies for waffling on today. Quiet reflection on a Sunday, I guess ? Enjoy the rest folk's :) Arte et labore[/p][/quote]Many true and heartfelt words Road Runner. I, too, well remember when the club couldn't pay its bills. I was a supplier, owed thousands. But Bill Fox, the then chairman, used to ask me to meet him at Ewood at 9 o'clock on Monday mornings (or the day after the match) so that he could give me a bag of cash before the bank got their hands on it. A chairman and board with honour and integrity. A far cry from today's deaf and dumb owners in Pune who have wreaked so much, possibly irreparable, damage on a once-proud club and its community. I've enjoyed reading your comments, along with others, today, though with sadness and I think you should all make sure you get your comments directly to Shebby at Ewood. roverfor60years

7:49pm Sun 9 Dec 12

Bazzer says...

French Rover wrote:
Bazzer wrote:
blueblooded wrote:
LanghoDAN wrote:
blueblooded wrote:
LanghoDAN wrote: The club I once followed up to this shower taking over are on the verge off going down again, we're on earth are the owners and mr shebby lover lover, we have not heard nothing from her over in India or the brothers once, since there bum boy departed in the dodgy sunset, it funny as mr shing was on every sporting channel when hiring and looking for a new manager we couldn't get enought if him, but now dose he even Exist anymore, if nothing is done to this club it's by by Blackburn rovers forever, the owners do they give a dam about what really happens to us as they have made enought money to **** off,I'm afraid the supporters are being fooled by watching this crap club, I noticed on sky sports news scarves and banners being thrown onto the pitch again last night, but there's the ones who have committed to watching and contributing to the ruining of the club Out with venkys Berg Hendry And the supporters
Bullcr@p glory hunter. You know, I know and everyone knows it wouldn't matter who owned the club or which bunch of nasties sat in the boardroom. If miraculously we found our firm and started to win, you tin pot stay aways would be there waving your flags as if you'd never been away. Get bring the team or stay away for ever made, your choice, but don't come on here brandishing the real fans who know bad times and good times are to be had but the team still needs support and the real supporters will still be there . You think it's easy attending games in the last few years knowing what we know and knowing a crushing defeat is much more likely than a win? Do you think it's enjoyable? You're almost as bad as the dingles with your disgraceful attack of real fans. Shame on you.
We're have you got your comments from I'm no hippocrite I'm a true supporter of rovers through thick and thin in early eighties when we were down in third and second division,but the fans needs to realise that the owners will be laughing all the way to the bank when they have robbed us blind, iv stopped going to rovers as I can't stand the fact that we were once a top flight club in a. Suitable postion and now were down in the championship, I'm a very close friend of mr Finn who's close to mr Williams, who they know the real truth about the owners so bog off with your comments and cone back when we're down in the first division and sat sorry
Oh here we go again, been attending since we were div three, got friends yadda yadda... Isnt it strange that just about everyone without a clue or a reasonsble argument outside of "we were a premiership club" either has friends in the know or waffles on about how they were there in div three, usually with facts that could have as easily be found on Wikipedia or footy facts site. You know what, it doesnt matter if you were there as the founding father of football, your team needs you now more than ever, but no, you'd rather we all spat our dummies out and boycotted in the hope that.. What? Venkys sell up and leave? The club goes into administration and the deluded BRSIT bums can come in with their 3m of pledges and send us straight back to div 3 so you can relive the good old days? We're in the championship. Our team needs our support.
I can prove I was at The Gay Meadow when we got whipped by Salop 1-7. I retain the programme stained with my tears which can be both carbon dated and DNA tested. Another giveaway is a nervous tic which manifests itself whenever my wife hands out "Fruit Shrewsbury" biscuits with a cup of tea.
did you go for a sail in the coracle though...? That is the true test of whether you went to Shrewsbury or not Bazzer :-)
Ah the coracle! The chap would always walk past the away end just before kick off with the coracle on his back. Fan standing next to me one match said "WTF is that?" I told him it was a boat and he told me to F off and called me a C! Great days!
[quote][p][bold]French Rover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bazzer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]blueblooded[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LanghoDAN[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]blueblooded[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LanghoDAN[/bold] wrote: The club I once followed up to this shower taking over are on the verge off going down again, we're on earth are the owners and mr shebby lover lover, we have not heard nothing from her over in India or the brothers once, since there bum boy departed in the dodgy sunset, it funny as mr shing was on every sporting channel when hiring and looking for a new manager we couldn't get enought if him, but now dose he even Exist anymore, if nothing is done to this club it's by by Blackburn rovers forever, the owners do they give a dam about what really happens to us as they have made enought money to **** off,I'm afraid the supporters are being fooled by watching this crap club, I noticed on sky sports news scarves and banners being thrown onto the pitch again last night, but there's the ones who have committed to watching and contributing to the ruining of the club Out with venkys Berg Hendry And the supporters[/p][/quote]Bullcr@p glory hunter. You know, I know and everyone knows it wouldn't matter who owned the club or which bunch of nasties sat in the boardroom. If miraculously we found our firm and started to win, you tin pot stay aways would be there waving your flags as if you'd never been away. Get bring the team or stay away for ever made, your choice, but don't come on here brandishing the real fans who know bad times and good times are to be had but the team still needs support and the real supporters will still be there . You think it's easy attending games in the last few years knowing what we know and knowing a crushing defeat is much more likely than a win? Do you think it's enjoyable? You're almost as bad as the dingles with your disgraceful attack of real fans. Shame on you.[/p][/quote]We're have you got your comments from I'm no hippocrite I'm a true supporter of rovers through thick and thin in early eighties when we were down in third and second division,but the fans needs to realise that the owners will be laughing all the way to the bank when they have robbed us blind, iv stopped going to rovers as I can't stand the fact that we were once a top flight club in a. Suitable postion and now were down in the championship, I'm a very close friend of mr Finn who's close to mr Williams, who they know the real truth about the owners so bog off with your comments and cone back when we're down in the first division and sat sorry[/p][/quote]Oh here we go again, been attending since we were div three, got friends yadda yadda... Isnt it strange that just about everyone without a clue or a reasonsble argument outside of "we were a premiership club" either has friends in the know or waffles on about how they were there in div three, usually with facts that could have as easily be found on Wikipedia or footy facts site. You know what, it doesnt matter if you were there as the founding father of football, your team needs you now more than ever, but no, you'd rather we all spat our dummies out and boycotted in the hope that.. What? Venkys sell up and leave? The club goes into administration and the deluded BRSIT bums can come in with their 3m of pledges and send us straight back to div 3 so you can relive the good old days? We're in the championship. Our team needs our support.[/p][/quote]I can prove I was at The Gay Meadow when we got whipped by Salop 1-7. I retain the programme stained with my tears which can be both carbon dated and DNA tested. Another giveaway is a nervous tic which manifests itself whenever my wife hands out "Fruit Shrewsbury" biscuits with a cup of tea.[/p][/quote]did you go for a sail in the coracle though...? That is the true test of whether you went to Shrewsbury or not Bazzer :-)[/p][/quote]Ah the coracle! The chap would always walk past the away end just before kick off with the coracle on his back. Fan standing next to me one match said "WTF is that?" I told him it was a boat and he told me to F off and called me a C! Great days! Bazzer

7:51pm Sun 9 Dec 12

blueblooded says...

dangerous dave wrote:
blueblooded - if I knew who you were I would have you in court quicker then you would know with your slanderous comments - take note I am taking your vile comments further!!!
There's a fine line between slander, libel and the truth.

Most decent people can distinguish between them. Funny though after calling me a spouting idiot, you finally found a legal dictionary to throw at me.. And as per usual to cowards, you start crying to the mods.

How about growing some and stop with the caps and constant hate comments if you dont want to be kettled with smelly and Penrith who all seem to share your caps lock ideaks?
[quote][p][bold]dangerous dave[/bold] wrote: blueblooded - if I knew who you were I would have you in court quicker then you would know with your slanderous comments - take note I am taking your vile comments further!!![/p][/quote]There's a fine line between slander, libel and the truth. Most decent people can distinguish between them. Funny though after calling me a spouting idiot, you finally found a legal dictionary to throw at me.. And as per usual to cowards, you start crying to the mods. How about growing some and stop with the caps and constant hate comments if you dont want to be kettled with smelly and Penrith who all seem to share your caps lock ideaks? blueblooded

8:04pm Sun 9 Dec 12

dangerous dave says...

blueblooded - wait and see - no fine line when you refer me to slanderous comments that I have not even made - no further comment to be made on my behalf at this point in time!!!!
blueblooded - wait and see - no fine line when you refer me to slanderous comments that I have not even made - no further comment to be made on my behalf at this point in time!!!! dangerous dave

9:13pm Sun 9 Dec 12

blueblooded says...

dangerous dave wrote:
blueblooded - wait and see - no fine line when you refer me to slanderous comments that I have not even made - no further comment to be made on my behalf at this point in time!!!!
Stop whining you dingle troll.
[quote][p][bold]dangerous dave[/bold] wrote: blueblooded - wait and see - no fine line when you refer me to slanderous comments that I have not even made - no further comment to be made on my behalf at this point in time!!!![/p][/quote]Stop whining you dingle troll. blueblooded

9:37pm Sun 9 Dec 12

Return of the Magnificent se7en says...

dangerous dave wrote:
return of the magnificent se7en - keep me out of your posts and dont involve me with any other posters on this site - vile comnets I cannot cope with and will not accept!!
So now you're distancing yourself from penriths comments that you were agreeing with for weeks?
[quote][p][bold]dangerous dave[/bold] wrote: return of the magnificent se7en - keep me out of your posts and dont involve me with any other posters on this site - vile comnets I cannot cope with and will not accept!![/p][/quote]So now you're distancing yourself from penriths comments that you were agreeing with for weeks? Return of the Magnificent se7en

9:43pm Sun 9 Dec 12

Return of the Magnificent se7en says...

dangerous dave wrote:
blueblooded - wait and see - no fine line when you refer me to slanderous comments that I have not even made - no further comment to be made on my behalf at this point in time!!!!
Thank the lord
[quote][p][bold]dangerous dave[/bold] wrote: blueblooded - wait and see - no fine line when you refer me to slanderous comments that I have not even made - no further comment to be made on my behalf at this point in time!!!![/p][/quote]Thank the lord Return of the Magnificent se7en

10:21pm Sun 9 Dec 12

flowersorseaman? says...

It looks hopeless but I still believe that we have enough talent in the squad to cobble together a side capable of getting results. Everyone on this site knows our weaknesses, we are crying out for a midfield general and we're weak at the back. The manager wants to play 442 but we have no right winger, (despite CKR being a winger not a striker). The manager needs to look at a change of formation so that he can accomodate our best players, bring Givet back in, either as part of a pair or at left back or even as part of a back 3, just get him back in the side. Bring MGP and Dunny back in, in the middle either side of Lowe. Give Simon a bit more game time, he has genuine quality and lets see a bit more of Nuno Gomes when fit, class is permanent! Obviously some staff will have to make way, Formica, Etuhu, Murphy in the first wave, asap please Henning!
It looks hopeless but I still believe that we have enough talent in the squad to cobble together a side capable of getting results. Everyone on this site knows our weaknesses, we are crying out for a midfield general and we're weak at the back. The manager wants to play 442 but we have no right winger, (despite CKR being a winger not a striker). The manager needs to look at a change of formation so that he can accomodate our best players, bring Givet back in, either as part of a pair or at left back or even as part of a back 3, just get him back in the side. Bring MGP and Dunny back in, in the middle either side of Lowe. Give Simon a bit more game time, he has genuine quality and lets see a bit more of Nuno Gomes when fit, class is permanent! Obviously some staff will have to make way, Formica, Etuhu, Murphy in the first wave, asap please Henning! flowersorseaman?

10:22pm Sun 9 Dec 12

Bazzer says...

Return of the Magnificent se7en wrote:
Anyway, Ive just finished watching west ham v liverpool, two contrasting styles if ever there were. Lump it Long v short and sweet Hoof it high v keep it neat. Hit and hope v pass and move Hoofball v Football Aussie rules v the beutiful game. Thudd and blunder v skill and craft. Hooves v feet
We have done superbly since ditching Big Sam. And I have noticed you have started talking a little dirty on these posts of late. Turds and things. Any chance we could meet and discuss the merits of Lump it Long vs. Short and sweet?
[quote][p][bold]Return of the Magnificent se7en[/bold] wrote: Anyway, Ive just finished watching west ham v liverpool, two contrasting styles if ever there were. Lump it Long v short and sweet Hoof it high v keep it neat. Hit and hope v pass and move Hoofball v Football Aussie rules v the beutiful game. Thudd and blunder v skill and craft. Hooves v feet[/p][/quote]We have done superbly since ditching Big Sam. And I have noticed you have started talking a little dirty on these posts of late. Turds and things. Any chance we could meet and discuss the merits of Lump it Long vs. Short and sweet? Bazzer

1:59am Mon 10 Dec 12

penrithrover says...

Return of the Magnificent se7en wrote:
dangerous dave wrote:
please remove 'blueblooded' from allowing comments on this site - his vile comments which are totally untrue and are very hurtful - please supply me with his details as I wish to take further action against this character!!!!!!!
Comments on football and deep held views I can accept but vile posts I cannot
No different to your comments calling Hendry a women beater, plural, and as yet he has not even been charged once with such a crime. Isn't that libelous? You want to hope that the LT delete all your posts that contain that phrase that you have posted over the last few months, otherwise someone may use the archive to ammass a multitude of offences against you, and then sueing you out of every penney you have leaving you only with your turd filled underpants.
NO RU insane /Return of the mag7 /and blueblooded all the same guy , no it was me NOT DANGEROUS DAVE that made the comment about Hendry in question has finished with the woman beater ,and her story will come out shortly, so stupid A*SE , we will soon see who will be suing who ! my advice to you whoever you are ,is to shut your gob until such time as you know what you are talking about ,which will probably be never, and also it is now absolutely obvious you are a full time employee of the agenst that have made so much money from Rovers, you push.push ,push for Rovers to spend money, why ?
Lets see if Berg can win a few games before we trust him with any more millions, MONEY THAT again will line the pockets of your bosses ,the said agent ,NO ,NO FUNDS TILL WE SEE BERG CAN DO THE JOB, SO FAR HE IS FAILING BADLY ,HE KNEW ALL THE PLAYERS HE WAS TAKEN ON, HE MADE COMMENTS ABOUT INSTANT PROMOTION WITH THESE SAME PLAYERS , NO MORE FUNDS ,KEEP THE MONEY UNTIL WE GET A PROPER MANAGER.
[quote][p][bold]Return of the Magnificent se7en[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dangerous dave[/bold] wrote: please remove 'blueblooded' from allowing comments on this site - his vile comments which are totally untrue and are very hurtful - please supply me with his details as I wish to take further action against this character!!!!!!! Comments on football and deep held views I can accept but vile posts I cannot[/p][/quote]No different to your comments calling Hendry a women beater, plural, and as yet he has not even been charged once with such a crime. Isn't that libelous? You want to hope that the LT delete all your posts that contain that phrase that you have posted over the last few months, otherwise someone may use the archive to ammass a multitude of offences against you, and then sueing you out of every penney you have leaving you only with your turd filled underpants.[/p][/quote]NO RU insane /Return of the mag7 /and blueblooded all the same guy , no it was me NOT DANGEROUS DAVE that made the comment about Hendry in question has finished with the woman beater ,and her story will come out shortly, so stupid A*SE , we will soon see who will be suing who ! my advice to you whoever you are ,is to shut your gob until such time as you know what you are talking about ,which will probably be never, and also it is now absolutely obvious you are a full time employee of the agenst that have made so much money from Rovers, you push.push ,push for Rovers to spend money, why ? Lets see if Berg can win a few games before we trust him with any more millions, MONEY THAT again will line the pockets of your bosses ,the said agent ,NO ,NO FUNDS TILL WE SEE BERG CAN DO THE JOB, SO FAR HE IS FAILING BADLY ,HE KNEW ALL THE PLAYERS HE WAS TAKEN ON, HE MADE COMMENTS ABOUT INSTANT PROMOTION WITH THESE SAME PLAYERS , NO MORE FUNDS ,KEEP THE MONEY UNTIL WE GET A PROPER MANAGER. penrithrover

5:51am Mon 10 Dec 12

RespectTheK-Dog says...

clitheroe blue boy wrote:
Hendry reported to be on £8k a week as 'defensive' coach? That's a joke. I didn't want HB as manager, and mark my words, we will be looking for a new manager after crimbo. Shabby Minge is a joke aswell.

I hate to say this, but we are playing worse than we were under Kean, and believe me, I despised him.
At last, someone prepared to admit it. You are playing worse than you were under Kean. The fact remains:

Kean was TOO GOOD FOR YOU

You've got to learn to respect the K-Dog
[quote][p][bold]clitheroe blue boy[/bold] wrote: Hendry reported to be on £8k a week as 'defensive' coach? That's a joke. I didn't want HB as manager, and mark my words, we will be looking for a new manager after crimbo. Shabby Minge is a joke aswell. I hate to say this, but we are playing worse than we were under Kean, and believe me, I despised him.[/p][/quote]At last, someone prepared to admit it. You are playing worse than you were under Kean. The fact remains: Kean was TOO GOOD FOR YOU You've got to learn to respect the K-Dog RespectTheK-Dog

6:01am Mon 10 Dec 12

RespectTheK-Dog says...

Captain Dreckley wrote:
As well as a totally incompetent defence and an absent centre midfield what also was glaring last night were Bergs tactics. I hate to say it but they were Kean like. We were set up wrong at the start and had no forward momentum. Kaz gave us that and we looked a different team. Then again sloppy in defence and we go 2-1 down. Rather than hold his nerve Berg focuses the midfield on attack with Nunes who didn't look fit and the dodgy defence gets no protection at all then its 4-1 and no way back. I fear that in Berg we have swapped like for like with Kean. Shebby has made a major mistake in selecting Berg as manager, why are we not surprised. Bring back Hughes with Ryan Nelsen as player coach. Singh told Berg his job was to get us out of the championship but not division 1. Still Venkys promised champions league and we got championship.
Yes bring back Mark Hughes

hahahahahahahahaha.

And you say Berg is like Kean? Apart from his shiny head. he's no Steve Kean. nowhere NEAR as good as your former manager. Kean was too good for you.

You've got to learn TO RESPECT THE K-DOG
[quote][p][bold]Captain Dreckley[/bold] wrote: As well as a totally incompetent defence and an absent centre midfield what also was glaring last night were Bergs tactics. I hate to say it but they were Kean like. We were set up wrong at the start and had no forward momentum. Kaz gave us that and we looked a different team. Then again sloppy in defence and we go 2-1 down. Rather than hold his nerve Berg focuses the midfield on attack with Nunes who didn't look fit and the dodgy defence gets no protection at all then its 4-1 and no way back. I fear that in Berg we have swapped like for like with Kean. Shebby has made a major mistake in selecting Berg as manager, why are we not surprised. Bring back Hughes with Ryan Nelsen as player coach. Singh told Berg his job was to get us out of the championship but not division 1. Still Venkys promised champions league and we got championship.[/p][/quote]Yes bring back Mark Hughes hahahahahahahahaha. And you say Berg is like Kean? Apart from his shiny head. he's no Steve Kean. nowhere NEAR as good as your former manager. Kean was too good for you. You've got to learn TO RESPECT THE K-DOG RespectTheK-Dog

8:26am Mon 10 Dec 12

fanny_tickler. says...

BERG OUT!
BERG OUT! fanny_tickler.

9:44am Mon 10 Dec 12

Roverthere says...

Bazzer wrote:
Return of the Magnificent se7en wrote:
Anyway, Ive just finished watching west ham v liverpool, two contrasting styles if ever there were. Lump it Long v short and sweet Hoof it high v keep it neat. Hit and hope v pass and move Hoofball v Football Aussie rules v the beutiful game. Thudd and blunder v skill and craft. Hooves v feet
We have done superbly since ditching Big Sam. And I have noticed you have started talking a little dirty on these posts of late. Turds and things. Any chance we could meet and discuss the merits of Lump it Long vs. Short and sweet?
Yes, one of Sams many skills was to play to your strength. Another is to get results. One of the best managers in Rovers history and probably the best value for money manager in the PL.
[quote][p][bold]Bazzer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Return of the Magnificent se7en[/bold] wrote: Anyway, Ive just finished watching west ham v liverpool, two contrasting styles if ever there were. Lump it Long v short and sweet Hoof it high v keep it neat. Hit and hope v pass and move Hoofball v Football Aussie rules v the beutiful game. Thudd and blunder v skill and craft. Hooves v feet[/p][/quote]We have done superbly since ditching Big Sam. And I have noticed you have started talking a little dirty on these posts of late. Turds and things. Any chance we could meet and discuss the merits of Lump it Long vs. Short and sweet?[/p][/quote]Yes, one of Sams many skills was to play to your strength. Another is to get results. One of the best managers in Rovers history and probably the best value for money manager in the PL. Roverthere

10:07am Mon 10 Dec 12

blueblooded says...

fanny_tickler. wrote:
BERG OUT!
shouldnt you worry more about the dyke-meisters miserable record?
[quote][p][bold]fanny_tickler.[/bold] wrote: BERG OUT![/p][/quote]shouldnt you worry more about the dyke-meisters miserable record? blueblooded

10:12am Mon 10 Dec 12

French Rover says...

Berg is reported as saying that the current squad is not good enough (glad he agrees) and that we are too reliant on youth in the team (9 players were 24 or under who started on Friday for instance).He reportedly said that he wants to bring in better and more experienced players during the January window. Better and more experienced are the right words Henning. This squad is far too light and inexperienced to achieve what we all want - promotion.

Kean/Venkys systematically got rid of all the good/experienced players who were the backbone of the team like Samba and Nelson, and even NZonzi who is starring for Stoke every week now - and instead they draughted in the Portugese colony (one or two decent players out of six or seven that came in) and brought in some new 'experienced players' like Scott Dann (who always looks haunted by relegation memories at two clubs now), and Etuhu and Murphy who show only patchy skill and little or no enthusiasm for the fight that is needed in the Championship.

The only real 'success' is Rhodes and maybe CKR - plus Vukevic if he is ever given a proper chance to show what he can do.

Berg is right - we need good quality and experienced players in key positions quickly. We need a central midfielder and at least one Center Half for starters. Plus one or two other experienced players in other positions like RB for instance which has been a problem area now for three seasons.

Berg has to be given time to build his own team - anything else would be ridiculous. He must know though that he has perhaps not lived up to the fans early expectations that he would initially make us harder to beat and more competitive - whilst he built his own side. We need to see what the Jan window Santa brings us now.
Berg is reported as saying that the current squad is not good enough (glad he agrees) and that we are too reliant on youth in the team (9 players were 24 or under who started on Friday for instance).He reportedly said that he wants to bring in better and more experienced players during the January window. Better and more experienced are the right words Henning. This squad is far too light and inexperienced to achieve what we all want - promotion. Kean/Venkys systematically got rid of all the good/experienced players who were the backbone of the team like Samba and Nelson, and even NZonzi who is starring for Stoke every week now - and instead they draughted in the Portugese colony (one or two decent players out of six or seven that came in) and brought in some new 'experienced players' like Scott Dann (who always looks haunted by relegation memories at two clubs now), and Etuhu and Murphy who show only patchy skill and little or no enthusiasm for the fight that is needed in the Championship. The only real 'success' is Rhodes and maybe CKR - plus Vukevic if he is ever given a proper chance to show what he can do. Berg is right - we need good quality and experienced players in key positions quickly. We need a central midfielder and at least one Center Half for starters. Plus one or two other experienced players in other positions like RB for instance which has been a problem area now for three seasons. Berg has to be given time to build his own team - anything else would be ridiculous. He must know though that he has perhaps not lived up to the fans early expectations that he would initially make us harder to beat and more competitive - whilst he built his own side. We need to see what the Jan window Santa brings us now. French Rover

10:29am Mon 10 Dec 12

French Rover says...

samblue wrote:
The so-called 'pundits' keep going on about what a strong squad we've got, but when you start to analyse it, quite a different picture emerges.
Take the main squad players:
Robinson - A good shot-stopper, but positioning lets him down and he fails to command his area.
Henley - Bags of potential and energy, but obviously lacks experience.
Dann - Has been one of more consistent performers this season, but still prone to numerous, and very costly mistakes.
Hanley - Still developing and would improve with a better defensive partner.
Martin Ollson - Often caught out of postion at full back but could be better employed on left midfield.
Givet - Someone who always gives 100 per cent, but again can be caught out by quick attackers, but at least he tackles.
Formica - Drifts in and out of games and seldom makes any real impact.
Murphy - Too slow for the Championship, caught in possession far too often, rarely finds a defence-splitting pass and rarely tackles, plus no apparent leadership.
Etuhu - Again too slow. For a big man, his tackling is atrocious and he seldom makes an impact.
Marcus Ollson - Enthusiastic but not up to standard, rarely using his pace to get to the line.
King - Head down and runs as fast as he can with the ball and hope he doesn't get tackled before he belatedly decides to try to pass.
Rhodes - It's a bonus he's reached double figures with the abysmal service he receives. Desperately needs a good target man to play alongside.
Kazim-Richards - Has potential to frighten defences if only he showed more poise and tried passing more often.
Pedersen - Still probably covers more ground than anyone else, but the quality of his crosses and deadball kicks has dropped.
Dunn - Probably the most die-hard Rovers player, it's such a shame he's so injury prone.
Vukevic - Has been very lively in his few 'cameo' appearances and could make a difference if given a run in the side.
Gomes - Quality player, but hardly used now. Could be a foil for Rhodes.
Rochina - Probably our most talented player, but also the most frustrating.
Lowe - Doesn't make an impact in central midfield, and too often plays the ball backwards instead of forwards. Still time to develop, but could he be better at full back?
excellent assessment/analysis of the current squad samblue. Really I would personally only disagree with your view on King who I think looks a very exciting player with pace and some good skills but who does need some more experience - and also note that you missed out Fabio Nunes - who I think looks like a great prospect on the left wing but again a player that needs more game time and experience.The rest are spot-on.

The key message is that the whichever way you juggle the team then the present squad is simply not good enough or experienced enough to win more games than we lose and challenge for promotion. It would be a big job for any manager to sort this mess out - so whoever has the job has to be given time to do it. It certainly wont happen overnight. But just to see things to start finally moving in the right direction would be encouraging for most fans.
[quote][p][bold]samblue[/bold] wrote: The so-called 'pundits' keep going on about what a strong squad we've got, but when you start to analyse it, quite a different picture emerges. Take the main squad players: Robinson - A good shot-stopper, but positioning lets him down and he fails to command his area. Henley - Bags of potential and energy, but obviously lacks experience. Dann - Has been one of more consistent performers this season, but still prone to numerous, and very costly mistakes. Hanley - Still developing and would improve with a better defensive partner. Martin Ollson - Often caught out of postion at full back but could be better employed on left midfield. Givet - Someone who always gives 100 per cent, but again can be caught out by quick attackers, but at least he tackles. Formica - Drifts in and out of games and seldom makes any real impact. Murphy - Too slow for the Championship, caught in possession far too often, rarely finds a defence-splitting pass and rarely tackles, plus no apparent leadership. Etuhu - Again too slow. For a big man, his tackling is atrocious and he seldom makes an impact. Marcus Ollson - Enthusiastic but not up to standard, rarely using his pace to get to the line. King - Head down and runs as fast as he can with the ball and hope he doesn't get tackled before he belatedly decides to try to pass. Rhodes - It's a bonus he's reached double figures with the abysmal service he receives. Desperately needs a good target man to play alongside. Kazim-Richards - Has potential to frighten defences if only he showed more poise and tried passing more often. Pedersen - Still probably covers more ground than anyone else, but the quality of his crosses and deadball kicks has dropped. Dunn - Probably the most die-hard Rovers player, it's such a shame he's so injury prone. Vukevic - Has been very lively in his few 'cameo' appearances and could make a difference if given a run in the side. Gomes - Quality player, but hardly used now. Could be a foil for Rhodes. Rochina - Probably our most talented player, but also the most frustrating. Lowe - Doesn't make an impact in central midfield, and too often plays the ball backwards instead of forwards. Still time to develop, but could he be better at full back?[/p][/quote]excellent assessment/analysis of the current squad samblue. Really I would personally only disagree with your view on King who I think looks a very exciting player with pace and some good skills but who does need some more experience - and also note that you missed out Fabio Nunes - who I think looks like a great prospect on the left wing but again a player that needs more game time and experience.The rest are spot-on. The key message is that the whichever way you juggle the team then the present squad is simply not good enough or experienced enough to win more games than we lose and challenge for promotion. It would be a big job for any manager to sort this mess out - so whoever has the job has to be given time to do it. It certainly wont happen overnight. But just to see things to start finally moving in the right direction would be encouraging for most fans. French Rover

10:52am Mon 10 Dec 12

whappen says...

Road Runner Road Runner wrote:
Rats still scurry down the corridors of Ewood Park and Brockhall. Either Berg is as useless as the odious one or he is being manipulated behind the scenes ? Everyman and his dog can see that all is not well down at the good ship Ewood, but what is the actual reason for this abysmal showing that insists on rearing it's ugly head ? A comment above alludes to movement on the shambles that purports to be that of the coaching staff down at Ewood ? I would wish this to be the case if only to allow Berg the chance in proving himself with hand picked staff of his own. Seeing as we are not privy to what is happening wholly behind the scenes regards these players of substance missing in action I can only surmise that form and injury is hampering these players from being involved ? Should that not be the case then surely it is only a matter of time before the whole sorry mess is exposed ? The saga deepens and on the horizon appears no beacon of hope just a dark period becoming increasingly gloomy for us Rovers supporters, and most importantly for the club. The loons in Pune should give their heads a real good shake and realize that the club it purchased is fast becoming a ship heading for the rocks with disaster inevitable. Broken up on the rocks into irretrievable pieces that could very well spell the end of BRFC ? I wander aimlessly to games(mostly away) like a zombie with only memory before I - clutching at straws for better days ? Am I the only one who thought the atmosphere down at the Turf week last was subdued in contrast to the previous meetings from both sets of supporters ? Added to that a mere 12000 attending Ewood v Cardiff. This crisis is now becoming the norm, which from my perspective, can only become more entrenched should this debacle carry on. The honeymoon period of Bergs appointment is now well and truly over, and Berg must move quickly in how he wishes to proceed with these matters and hope that he makes the wise and correct decisions for our beloved ? In years gone by I have always looked for the core of BRFC for it's stability and success, but these last years this core, eroded, dank and abandoned leaves me with a chilling feeling that the 'dark forces' alluded to by a certain agent could very well be true ? Whichever maybe the case BRFC is in need of urgent TLC with people who have the interests for all that BRFC stands for. This cannot go on much longer before isolation seeps into my beloved bones all matters BRFC for just what is it that we as supporters are supporting here ? January will be the make or break time for I in so far as Berg must be seen to be in control of all matters resulting in him bringing in competent staff ? Many I know who have supported BRFC for 30/40 years are becoming stagnant and disillusioned with that which belies our club. I fail to understand how the owners can allow, for us the supporters, in being isolated by such cowardly and drastic actions that have wrecked only havoc and misery onto not only the club, but the wider community ? If this is the plan of these owners etc then it is working perfectly, and should they commit as much to the playing side of things then we would be reaching the upper echelons of the football world such is the contrast ! At present I don't hold out much hope for a brighter future under present circumstances, but wander I will next week to Blackpool hoping that a performance can be witnessed of that what I believe to be BRFC ? Carry on with this abject failure, and nothing will be more certain(other than tax and death) that I will disappear from the BRFC scene looking back with irretrievable heartbreak in so far as VENKY will have broken me with the biggest calamity that as beset BRFC in all of it's 137 year history. Now we are out of the limelight of the Premier League the dark forces could just very well see the end of BRFC as we know it ? Have we ever been in such a disastrous situation that we find ourselves in now ? Answers please ? Arte et labore
Forsooth, 'tis indeed a disastrous situation in which we find ourselves.

A situation up with which we should not be prepared to put.

May we live in hope the performance on the distant shores of Blackpool shall be one to bring hope and comfort in these dark times.

Alas, your suggestion our true place should be amongst the upper echelons of this fine sport is one of pure folly; I fear nought but the valley of death beckons.

Lest ye forget, incompetence abounds in the house of our lords and masters from the East.
[quote][p][bold]Road Runner Road Runner[/bold] wrote: Rats still scurry down the corridors of Ewood Park and Brockhall. Either Berg is as useless as the odious one or he is being manipulated behind the scenes ? Everyman and his dog can see that all is not well down at the good ship Ewood, but what is the actual reason for this abysmal showing that insists on rearing it's ugly head ? A comment above alludes to movement on the shambles that purports to be that of the coaching staff down at Ewood ? I would wish this to be the case if only to allow Berg the chance in proving himself with hand picked staff of his own. Seeing as we are not privy to what is happening wholly behind the scenes regards these players of substance missing in action I can only surmise that form and injury is hampering these players from being involved ? Should that not be the case then surely it is only a matter of time before the whole sorry mess is exposed ? The saga deepens and on the horizon appears no beacon of hope just a dark period becoming increasingly gloomy for us Rovers supporters, and most importantly for the club. The loons in Pune should give their heads a real good shake and realize that the club it purchased is fast becoming a ship heading for the rocks with disaster inevitable. Broken up on the rocks into irretrievable pieces that could very well spell the end of BRFC ? I wander aimlessly to games(mostly away) like a zombie with only memory before I - clutching at straws for better days ? Am I the only one who thought the atmosphere down at the Turf week last was subdued in contrast to the previous meetings from both sets of supporters ? Added to that a mere 12000 attending Ewood v Cardiff. This crisis is now becoming the norm, which from my perspective, can only become more entrenched should this debacle carry on. The honeymoon period of Bergs appointment is now well and truly over, and Berg must move quickly in how he wishes to proceed with these matters and hope that he makes the wise and correct decisions for our beloved ? In years gone by I have always looked for the core of BRFC for it's stability and success, but these last years this core, eroded, dank and abandoned leaves me with a chilling feeling that the 'dark forces' alluded to by a certain agent could very well be true ? Whichever maybe the case BRFC is in need of urgent TLC with people who have the interests for all that BRFC stands for. This cannot go on much longer before isolation seeps into my beloved bones all matters BRFC for just what is it that we as supporters are supporting here ? January will be the make or break time for I in so far as Berg must be seen to be in control of all matters resulting in him bringing in competent staff ? Many I know who have supported BRFC for 30/40 years are becoming stagnant and disillusioned with that which belies our club. I fail to understand how the owners can allow, for us the supporters, in being isolated by such cowardly and drastic actions that have wrecked only havoc and misery onto not only the club, but the wider community ? If this is the plan of these owners etc then it is working perfectly, and should they commit as much to the playing side of things then we would be reaching the upper echelons of the football world such is the contrast ! At present I don't hold out much hope for a brighter future under present circumstances, but wander I will next week to Blackpool hoping that a performance can be witnessed of that what I believe to be BRFC ? Carry on with this abject failure, and nothing will be more certain(other than tax and death) that I will disappear from the BRFC scene looking back with irretrievable heartbreak in so far as VENKY will have broken me with the biggest calamity that as beset BRFC in all of it's 137 year history. Now we are out of the limelight of the Premier League the dark forces could just very well see the end of BRFC as we know it ? Have we ever been in such a disastrous situation that we find ourselves in now ? Answers please ? Arte et labore[/p][/quote]Forsooth, 'tis indeed a disastrous situation in which we find ourselves. A situation up with which we should not be prepared to put. May we live in hope the performance on the distant shores of Blackpool shall be one to bring hope and comfort in these dark times. Alas, your suggestion our true place should be amongst the upper echelons of this fine sport is one of pure folly; I fear nought but the valley of death beckons. Lest ye forget, incompetence abounds in the house of our lords and masters from the East. whappen

11:06am Mon 10 Dec 12

Road Runner Road Runner says...

French Rover wrote:
Berg is reported as saying that the current squad is not good enough (glad he agrees) and that we are too reliant on youth in the team (9 players were 24 or under who started on Friday for instance).He reportedly said that he wants to bring in better and more experienced players during the January window. Better and more experienced are the right words Henning. This squad is far too light and inexperienced to achieve what we all want - promotion.

Kean/Venkys systematically got rid of all the good/experienced players who were the backbone of the team like Samba and Nelson, and even NZonzi who is starring for Stoke every week now - and instead they draughted in the Portugese colony (one or two decent players out of six or seven that came in) and brought in some new 'experienced players' like Scott Dann (who always looks haunted by relegation memories at two clubs now), and Etuhu and Murphy who show only patchy skill and little or no enthusiasm for the fight that is needed in the Championship.

The only real 'success' is Rhodes and maybe CKR - plus Vukevic if he is ever given a proper chance to show what he can do.

Berg is right - we need good quality and experienced players in key positions quickly. We need a central midfielder and at least one Center Half for starters. Plus one or two other experienced players in other positions like RB for instance which has been a problem area now for three seasons.

Berg has to be given time to build his own team - anything else would be ridiculous. He must know though that he has perhaps not lived up to the fans early expectations that he would initially make us harder to beat and more competitive - whilst he built his own side. We need to see what the Jan window Santa brings us now.
That is my last great hope Mr French - that Berg, as a footballing man will for Blackburn Rovers FC turn around this all sorry mess resulting in a competitive team that we can once again fully support ?

Berg, for his own professional integrity, will want to show himself as a manager of substance, and in no way a stooge of the last shockingly 2 years + ?

Berg, in a photo shoot on his appointment, turned around the B&W shirt and gave short shrift to the name on the reverse, quoting: it isn't the name that is of the real importance here, but(pointing his finger) at the crest - this is the heart of the matter, that is what the supporters want to see respected - the badge.

Venky, take note or it could very well be that plastic support will permeate !

Give the Berg the tools that he see's as sufficient in putting together a team that represents this football club or forever hold their tongue's.

Good day to you Mr French :)

Arte et labore
[quote][p][bold]French Rover[/bold] wrote: Berg is reported as saying that the current squad is not good enough (glad he agrees) and that we are too reliant on youth in the team (9 players were 24 or under who started on Friday for instance).He reportedly said that he wants to bring in better and more experienced players during the January window. Better and more experienced are the right words Henning. This squad is far too light and inexperienced to achieve what we all want - promotion. Kean/Venkys systematically got rid of all the good/experienced players who were the backbone of the team like Samba and Nelson, and even NZonzi who is starring for Stoke every week now - and instead they draughted in the Portugese colony (one or two decent players out of six or seven that came in) and brought in some new 'experienced players' like Scott Dann (who always looks haunted by relegation memories at two clubs now), and Etuhu and Murphy who show only patchy skill and little or no enthusiasm for the fight that is needed in the Championship. The only real 'success' is Rhodes and maybe CKR - plus Vukevic if he is ever given a proper chance to show what he can do. Berg is right - we need good quality and experienced players in key positions quickly. We need a central midfielder and at least one Center Half for starters. Plus one or two other experienced players in other positions like RB for instance which has been a problem area now for three seasons. Berg has to be given time to build his own team - anything else would be ridiculous. He must know though that he has perhaps not lived up to the fans early expectations that he would initially make us harder to beat and more competitive - whilst he built his own side. We need to see what the Jan window Santa brings us now.[/p][/quote]That is my last great hope Mr French - that Berg, as a footballing man will for Blackburn Rovers FC turn around this all sorry mess resulting in a competitive team that we can once again fully support ? Berg, for his own professional integrity, will want to show himself as a manager of substance, and in no way a stooge of the last shockingly 2 years + ? Berg, in a photo shoot on his appointment, turned around the B&W shirt and gave short shrift to the name on the reverse, quoting: it isn't the name that is of the real importance here, but(pointing his finger) at the crest - this is the heart of the matter, that is what the supporters want to see respected - the badge. Venky, take note or it could very well be that plastic support will permeate ! Give the Berg the tools that he see's as sufficient in putting together a team that represents this football club or forever hold their tongue's. Good day to you Mr French :) Arte et labore Road Runner Road Runner

11:16am Mon 10 Dec 12

Road Runner Road Runner says...

roverfor60years wrote:
Road Runner Road Runner wrote:
My apologies for waffling on today.

Quiet reflection on a Sunday, I guess ?

Enjoy the rest folk's :)

Arte et labore
Many true and heartfelt words Road Runner. I, too, well remember when the club couldn't pay its bills. I was a supplier, owed thousands. But Bill Fox, the then chairman, used to ask me to meet him at Ewood at 9 o'clock on Monday mornings (or the day after the match) so that he could give me a bag of cash before the bank got their hands on it. A chairman and board with honour and integrity. A far cry from today's deaf and dumb owners in Pune who have wreaked so much, possibly irreparable, damage on a once-proud club and its community.

I've enjoyed reading your comments, along with others, today, though with sadness and I think you should all make sure you get your comments directly to Shebby at Ewood.
Thanks Roverfor60years.

You and I could talk for hours.

A letter of concern as gone to SS some months back.

Arte et labore
[quote][p][bold]roverfor60years[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Road Runner Road Runner[/bold] wrote: My apologies for waffling on today. Quiet reflection on a Sunday, I guess ? Enjoy the rest folk's :) Arte et labore[/p][/quote]Many true and heartfelt words Road Runner. I, too, well remember when the club couldn't pay its bills. I was a supplier, owed thousands. But Bill Fox, the then chairman, used to ask me to meet him at Ewood at 9 o'clock on Monday mornings (or the day after the match) so that he could give me a bag of cash before the bank got their hands on it. A chairman and board with honour and integrity. A far cry from today's deaf and dumb owners in Pune who have wreaked so much, possibly irreparable, damage on a once-proud club and its community. I've enjoyed reading your comments, along with others, today, though with sadness and I think you should all make sure you get your comments directly to Shebby at Ewood.[/p][/quote]Thanks Roverfor60years. You and I could talk for hours. A letter of concern as gone to SS some months back. Arte et labore Road Runner Road Runner

11:21am Mon 10 Dec 12

Road Runner Road Runner says...

whappen wrote:
Road Runner Road Runner wrote:
Rats still scurry down the corridors of Ewood Park and Brockhall. Either Berg is as useless as the odious one or he is being manipulated behind the scenes ? Everyman and his dog can see that all is not well down at the good ship Ewood, but what is the actual reason for this abysmal showing that insists on rearing it's ugly head ? A comment above alludes to movement on the shambles that purports to be that of the coaching staff down at Ewood ? I would wish this to be the case if only to allow Berg the chance in proving himself with hand picked staff of his own. Seeing as we are not privy to what is happening wholly behind the scenes regards these players of substance missing in action I can only surmise that form and injury is hampering these players from being involved ? Should that not be the case then surely it is only a matter of time before the whole sorry mess is exposed ? The saga deepens and on the horizon appears no beacon of hope just a dark period becoming increasingly gloomy for us Rovers supporters, and most importantly for the club. The loons in Pune should give their heads a real good shake and realize that the club it purchased is fast becoming a ship heading for the rocks with disaster inevitable. Broken up on the rocks into irretrievable pieces that could very well spell the end of BRFC ? I wander aimlessly to games(mostly away) like a zombie with only memory before I - clutching at straws for better days ? Am I the only one who thought the atmosphere down at the Turf week last was subdued in contrast to the previous meetings from both sets of supporters ? Added to that a mere 12000 attending Ewood v Cardiff. This crisis is now becoming the norm, which from my perspective, can only become more entrenched should this debacle carry on. The honeymoon period of Bergs appointment is now well and truly over, and Berg must move quickly in how he wishes to proceed with these matters and hope that he makes the wise and correct decisions for our beloved ? In years gone by I have always looked for the core of BRFC for it's stability and success, but these last years this core, eroded, dank and abandoned leaves me with a chilling feeling that the 'dark forces' alluded to by a certain agent could very well be true ? Whichever maybe the case BRFC is in need of urgent TLC with people who have the interests for all that BRFC stands for. This cannot go on much longer before isolation seeps into my beloved bones all matters BRFC for just what is it that we as supporters are supporting here ? January will be the make or break time for I in so far as Berg must be seen to be in control of all matters resulting in him bringing in competent staff ? Many I know who have supported BRFC for 30/40 years are becoming stagnant and disillusioned with that which belies our club. I fail to understand how the owners can allow, for us the supporters, in being isolated by such cowardly and drastic actions that have wrecked only havoc and misery onto not only the club, but the wider community ? If this is the plan of these owners etc then it is working perfectly, and should they commit as much to the playing side of things then we would be reaching the upper echelons of the football world such is the contrast ! At present I don't hold out much hope for a brighter future under present circumstances, but wander I will next week to Blackpool hoping that a performance can be witnessed of that what I believe to be BRFC ? Carry on with this abject failure, and nothing will be more certain(other than tax and death) that I will disappear from the BRFC scene looking back with irretrievable heartbreak in so far as VENKY will have broken me with the biggest calamity that as beset BRFC in all of it's 137 year history. Now we are out of the limelight of the Premier League the dark forces could just very well see the end of BRFC as we know it ? Have we ever been in such a disastrous situation that we find ourselves in now ? Answers please ? Arte et labore
Forsooth, 'tis indeed a disastrous situation in which we find ourselves.

A situation up with which we should not be prepared to put.

May we live in hope the performance on the distant shores of Blackpool shall be one to bring hope and comfort in these dark times.

Alas, your suggestion our true place should be amongst the upper echelons of this fine sport is one of pure folly; I fear nought but the valley of death beckons.

Lest ye forget, incompetence abounds in the house of our lords and masters from the East.
Quality Whappen.

I only ask for honor back in representing the beloved B&W shirt.

Arte et labore
[quote][p][bold]whappen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Road Runner Road Runner[/bold] wrote: Rats still scurry down the corridors of Ewood Park and Brockhall. Either Berg is as useless as the odious one or he is being manipulated behind the scenes ? Everyman and his dog can see that all is not well down at the good ship Ewood, but what is the actual reason for this abysmal showing that insists on rearing it's ugly head ? A comment above alludes to movement on the shambles that purports to be that of the coaching staff down at Ewood ? I would wish this to be the case if only to allow Berg the chance in proving himself with hand picked staff of his own. Seeing as we are not privy to what is happening wholly behind the scenes regards these players of substance missing in action I can only surmise that form and injury is hampering these players from being involved ? Should that not be the case then surely it is only a matter of time before the whole sorry mess is exposed ? The saga deepens and on the horizon appears no beacon of hope just a dark period becoming increasingly gloomy for us Rovers supporters, and most importantly for the club. The loons in Pune should give their heads a real good shake and realize that the club it purchased is fast becoming a ship heading for the rocks with disaster inevitable. Broken up on the rocks into irretrievable pieces that could very well spell the end of BRFC ? I wander aimlessly to games(mostly away) like a zombie with only memory before I - clutching at straws for better days ? Am I the only one who thought the atmosphere down at the Turf week last was subdued in contrast to the previous meetings from both sets of supporters ? Added to that a mere 12000 attending Ewood v Cardiff. This crisis is now becoming the norm, which from my perspective, can only become more entrenched should this debacle carry on. The honeymoon period of Bergs appointment is now well and truly over, and Berg must move quickly in how he wishes to proceed with these matters and hope that he makes the wise and correct decisions for our beloved ? In years gone by I have always looked for the core of BRFC for it's stability and success, but these last years this core, eroded, dank and abandoned leaves me with a chilling feeling that the 'dark forces' alluded to by a certain agent could very well be true ? Whichever maybe the case BRFC is in need of urgent TLC with people who have the interests for all that BRFC stands for. This cannot go on much longer before isolation seeps into my beloved bones all matters BRFC for just what is it that we as supporters are supporting here ? January will be the make or break time for I in so far as Berg must be seen to be in control of all matters resulting in him bringing in competent staff ? Many I know who have supported BRFC for 30/40 years are becoming stagnant and disillusioned with that which belies our club. I fail to understand how the owners can allow, for us the supporters, in being isolated by such cowardly and drastic actions that have wrecked only havoc and misery onto not only the club, but the wider community ? If this is the plan of these owners etc then it is working perfectly, and should they commit as much to the playing side of things then we would be reaching the upper echelons of the football world such is the contrast ! At present I don't hold out much hope for a brighter future under present circumstances, but wander I will next week to Blackpool hoping that a performance can be witnessed of that what I believe to be BRFC ? Carry on with this abject failure, and nothing will be more certain(other than tax and death) that I will disappear from the BRFC scene looking back with irretrievable heartbreak in so far as VENKY will have broken me with the biggest calamity that as beset BRFC in all of it's 137 year history. Now we are out of the limelight of the Premier League the dark forces could just very well see the end of BRFC as we know it ? Have we ever been in such a disastrous situation that we find ourselves in now ? Answers please ? Arte et labore[/p][/quote]Forsooth, 'tis indeed a disastrous situation in which we find ourselves. A situation up with which we should not be prepared to put. May we live in hope the performance on the distant shores of Blackpool shall be one to bring hope and comfort in these dark times. Alas, your suggestion our true place should be amongst the upper echelons of this fine sport is one of pure folly; I fear nought but the valley of death beckons. Lest ye forget, incompetence abounds in the house of our lords and masters from the East.[/p][/quote]Quality Whappen. I only ask for honor back in representing the beloved B&W shirt. Arte et labore Road Runner Road Runner

12:51pm Mon 10 Dec 12

French Rover says...

Road Runner Road Runner wrote:
French Rover wrote:
Berg is reported as saying that the current squad is not good enough (glad he agrees) and that we are too reliant on youth in the team (9 players were 24 or under who started on Friday for instance).He reportedly said that he wants to bring in better and more experienced players during the January window. Better and more experienced are the right words Henning. This squad is far too light and inexperienced to achieve what we all want - promotion.

Kean/Venkys systematically got rid of all the good/experienced players who were the backbone of the team like Samba and Nelson, and even NZonzi who is starring for Stoke every week now - and instead they draughted in the Portugese colony (one or two decent players out of six or seven that came in) and brought in some new 'experienced players' like Scott Dann (who always looks haunted by relegation memories at two clubs now), and Etuhu and Murphy who show only patchy skill and little or no enthusiasm for the fight that is needed in the Championship.

The only real 'success' is Rhodes and maybe CKR - plus Vukevic if he is ever given a proper chance to show what he can do.

Berg is right - we need good quality and experienced players in key positions quickly. We need a central midfielder and at least one Center Half for starters. Plus one or two other experienced players in other positions like RB for instance which has been a problem area now for three seasons.

Berg has to be given time to build his own team - anything else would be ridiculous. He must know though that he has perhaps not lived up to the fans early expectations that he would initially make us harder to beat and more competitive - whilst he built his own side. We need to see what the Jan window Santa brings us now.
That is my last great hope Mr French - that Berg, as a footballing man will for Blackburn Rovers FC turn around this all sorry mess resulting in a competitive team that we can once again fully support ?

Berg, for his own professional integrity, will want to show himself as a manager of substance, and in no way a stooge of the last shockingly 2 years + ?

Berg, in a photo shoot on his appointment, turned around the B&W shirt and gave short shrift to the name on the reverse, quoting: it isn't the name that is of the real importance here, but(pointing his finger) at the crest - this is the heart of the matter, that is what the supporters want to see respected - the badge.

Venky, take note or it could very well be that plastic support will permeate !

Give the Berg the tools that he see's as sufficient in putting together a team that represents this football club or forever hold their tongue's.

Good day to you Mr French :)

Arte et labore
nice bit about Berg and the shirt badge Mr W - I didn't see that at the time but a good gesture indeed. Just hope the V's give him the means to put some substance behind the gesture now.

On that note I see we were linked with Wilson Palacios this morning who seems out of favour at Stoke now. (Due to N'Zonzi's good midfield displays apparently). He looked good when he was at Wigan and Spurs but think he had some injuries and form loss at Stoke. Is he the right man for us in midfield? He is certainly experienced but is he good enough now?
Maybe just paper talk.

A good day to you also Mr W...
[quote][p][bold]Road Runner Road Runner[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]French Rover[/bold] wrote: Berg is reported as saying that the current squad is not good enough (glad he agrees) and that we are too reliant on youth in the team (9 players were 24 or under who started on Friday for instance).He reportedly said that he wants to bring in better and more experienced players during the January window. Better and more experienced are the right words Henning. This squad is far too light and inexperienced to achieve what we all want - promotion. Kean/Venkys systematically got rid of all the good/experienced players who were the backbone of the team like Samba and Nelson, and even NZonzi who is starring for Stoke every week now - and instead they draughted in the Portugese colony (one or two decent players out of six or seven that came in) and brought in some new 'experienced players' like Scott Dann (who always looks haunted by relegation memories at two clubs now), and Etuhu and Murphy who show only patchy skill and little or no enthusiasm for the fight that is needed in the Championship. The only real 'success' is Rhodes and maybe CKR - plus Vukevic if he is ever given a proper chance to show what he can do. Berg is right - we need good quality and experienced players in key positions quickly. We need a central midfielder and at least one Center Half for starters. Plus one or two other experienced players in other positions like RB for instance which has been a problem area now for three seasons. Berg has to be given time to build his own team - anything else would be ridiculous. He must know though that he has perhaps not lived up to the fans early expectations that he would initially make us harder to beat and more competitive - whilst he built his own side. We need to see what the Jan window Santa brings us now.[/p][/quote]That is my last great hope Mr French - that Berg, as a footballing man will for Blackburn Rovers FC turn around this all sorry mess resulting in a competitive team that we can once again fully support ? Berg, for his own professional integrity, will want to show himself as a manager of substance, and in no way a stooge of the last shockingly 2 years + ? Berg, in a photo shoot on his appointment, turned around the B&W shirt and gave short shrift to the name on the reverse, quoting: it isn't the name that is of the real importance here, but(pointing his finger) at the crest - this is the heart of the matter, that is what the supporters want to see respected - the badge. Venky, take note or it could very well be that plastic support will permeate ! Give the Berg the tools that he see's as sufficient in putting together a team that represents this football club or forever hold their tongue's. Good day to you Mr French :) Arte et labore[/p][/quote]nice bit about Berg and the shirt badge Mr W - I didn't see that at the time but a good gesture indeed. Just hope the V's give him the means to put some substance behind the gesture now. On that note I see we were linked with Wilson Palacios this morning who seems out of favour at Stoke now. (Due to N'Zonzi's good midfield displays apparently). He looked good when he was at Wigan and Spurs but think he had some injuries and form loss at Stoke. Is he the right man for us in midfield? He is certainly experienced but is he good enough now? Maybe just paper talk. A good day to you also Mr W... French Rover

2:21pm Mon 10 Dec 12

penrithrover says...

French Rover wrote:
Berg is reported as saying that the current squad is not good enough (glad he agrees) and that we are too reliant on youth in the team (9 players were 24 or under who started on Friday for instance).He reportedly said that he wants to bring in better and more experienced players during the January window. Better and more experienced are the right words Henning. This squad is far too light and inexperienced to achieve what we all want - promotion.

Kean/Venkys systematically got rid of all the good/experienced players who were the backbone of the team like Samba and Nelson, and even NZonzi who is starring for Stoke every week now - and instead they draughted in the Portugese colony (one or two decent players out of six or seven that came in) and brought in some new 'experienced players' like Scott Dann (who always looks haunted by relegation memories at two clubs now), and Etuhu and Murphy who show only patchy skill and little or no enthusiasm for the fight that is needed in the Championship.

The only real 'success' is Rhodes and maybe CKR - plus Vukevic if he is ever given a proper chance to show what he can do.

Berg is right - we need good quality and experienced players in key positions quickly. We need a central midfielder and at least one Center Half for starters. Plus one or two other experienced players in other positions like RB for instance which has been a problem area now for three seasons.

Berg has to be given time to build his own team - anything else would be ridiculous. He must know though that he has perhaps not lived up to the fans early expectations that he would initially make us harder to beat and more competitive - whilst he built his own side. We need to see what the Jan window Santa brings us now.
There you go again Froggie /rover/ru insane/rm7 differnet titles but all the same person , all paid Anderson employee, listen **** for brains , stop writing posts in trying to get support for Rovers to spend big in the January transfer window , listen you are employed by these agents ,you will probably get another big bonus if Rovers buy more Portuguesers in the january transfer window .
ROVERS SHOULD NOT BUY ANYONE IN THE WINDOW ,TO FUND MORE FAT COMMISSIONS FOR AGENTS .
BERG KNEW HIS PLAYERS WHEN HE TOOK THE JOB AND MADE HIS PROMISES WITH THESE SAME PLAYERS , LET BERG DO WHAT HE PROMISED ,GUARANTEED PROMOTION.
FRENCH OVER YOU ARE MAKING IT FAR TOO OBVIOUS YOUR ONLY INTEREST IN BERG SPENDING MONEY FOR PLAYERS ,I FOR YOUR OWN PERSONAL FINANCIAL GAIN .
**** OBVIOUS BY NOW , IS IT JUST FOR THE FILTHY MONEY YOU DO THIS UNDERHANDED SCHEMING ??
[quote][p][bold]French Rover[/bold] wrote: Berg is reported as saying that the current squad is not good enough (glad he agrees) and that we are too reliant on youth in the team (9 players were 24 or under who started on Friday for instance).He reportedly said that he wants to bring in better and more experienced players during the January window. Better and more experienced are the right words Henning. This squad is far too light and inexperienced to achieve what we all want - promotion. Kean/Venkys systematically got rid of all the good/experienced players who were the backbone of the team like Samba and Nelson, and even NZonzi who is starring for Stoke every week now - and instead they draughted in the Portugese colony (one or two decent players out of six or seven that came in) and brought in some new 'experienced players' like Scott Dann (who always looks haunted by relegation memories at two clubs now), and Etuhu and Murphy who show only patchy skill and little or no enthusiasm for the fight that is needed in the Championship. The only real 'success' is Rhodes and maybe CKR - plus Vukevic if he is ever given a proper chance to show what he can do. Berg is right - we need good quality and experienced players in key positions quickly. We need a central midfielder and at least one Center Half for starters. Plus one or two other experienced players in other positions like RB for instance which has been a problem area now for three seasons. Berg has to be given time to build his own team - anything else would be ridiculous. He must know though that he has perhaps not lived up to the fans early expectations that he would initially make us harder to beat and more competitive - whilst he built his own side. We need to see what the Jan window Santa brings us now.[/p][/quote]There you go again Froggie /rover/ru insane/rm7 differnet titles but all the same person , all paid Anderson employee, listen **** for brains , stop writing posts in trying to get support for Rovers to spend big in the January transfer window , listen you are employed by these agents ,you will probably get another big bonus if Rovers buy more Portuguesers in the january transfer window . ROVERS SHOULD NOT BUY ANYONE IN THE WINDOW ,TO FUND MORE FAT COMMISSIONS FOR AGENTS . BERG KNEW HIS PLAYERS WHEN HE TOOK THE JOB AND MADE HIS PROMISES WITH THESE SAME PLAYERS , LET BERG DO WHAT HE PROMISED ,GUARANTEED PROMOTION. FRENCH OVER YOU ARE MAKING IT FAR TOO OBVIOUS YOUR ONLY INTEREST IN BERG SPENDING MONEY FOR PLAYERS ,I FOR YOUR OWN PERSONAL FINANCIAL GAIN . **** OBVIOUS BY NOW , IS IT JUST FOR THE FILTHY MONEY YOU DO THIS UNDERHANDED SCHEMING ?? penrithrover

3:01pm Mon 10 Dec 12

French Rover says...

penrithrover wrote:
French Rover wrote:
Berg is reported as saying that the current squad is not good enough (glad he agrees) and that we are too reliant on youth in the team (9 players were 24 or under who started on Friday for instance).He reportedly said that he wants to bring in better and more experienced players during the January window. Better and more experienced are the right words Henning. This squad is far too light and inexperienced to achieve what we all want - promotion.

Kean/Venkys systematically got rid of all the good/experienced players who were the backbone of the team like Samba and Nelson, and even NZonzi who is starring for Stoke every week now - and instead they draughted in the Portugese colony (one or two decent players out of six or seven that came in) and brought in some new 'experienced players' like Scott Dann (who always looks haunted by relegation memories at two clubs now), and Etuhu and Murphy who show only patchy skill and little or no enthusiasm for the fight that is needed in the Championship.

The only real 'success' is Rhodes and maybe CKR - plus Vukevic if he is ever given a proper chance to show what he can do.

Berg is right - we need good quality and experienced players in key positions quickly. We need a central midfielder and at least one Center Half for starters. Plus one or two other experienced players in other positions like RB for instance which has been a problem area now for three seasons.

Berg has to be given time to build his own team - anything else would be ridiculous. He must know though that he has perhaps not lived up to the fans early expectations that he would initially make us harder to beat and more competitive - whilst he built his own side. We need to see what the Jan window Santa brings us now.
There you go again Froggie /rover/ru insane/rm7 differnet titles but all the same person , all paid Anderson employee, listen **** for brains , stop writing posts in trying to get support for Rovers to spend big in the January transfer window , listen you are employed by these agents ,you will probably get another big bonus if Rovers buy more Portuguesers in the january transfer window .
ROVERS SHOULD NOT BUY ANYONE IN THE WINDOW ,TO FUND MORE FAT COMMISSIONS FOR AGENTS .
BERG KNEW HIS PLAYERS WHEN HE TOOK THE JOB AND MADE HIS PROMISES WITH THESE SAME PLAYERS , LET BERG DO WHAT HE PROMISED ,GUARANTEED PROMOTION.
FRENCH OVER YOU ARE MAKING IT FAR TOO OBVIOUS YOUR ONLY INTEREST IN BERG SPENDING MONEY FOR PLAYERS ,I FOR YOUR OWN PERSONAL FINANCIAL GAIN .
**** OBVIOUS BY NOW , IS IT JUST FOR THE FILTHY MONEY YOU DO THIS UNDERHANDED SCHEMING ??
And to think that I used to get slightly annoyed at your paranoid ramblings - but now I just smile and think - what a shame for you. To be condemned forever as a figure of fun and much ridicule on these pages and I daresay probably in real life (if you know what that is?) also. Once a nutter always a nutter smelly!
[quote][p][bold]penrithrover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]French Rover[/bold] wrote: Berg is reported as saying that the current squad is not good enough (glad he agrees) and that we are too reliant on youth in the team (9 players were 24 or under who started on Friday for instance).He reportedly said that he wants to bring in better and more experienced players during the January window. Better and more experienced are the right words Henning. This squad is far too light and inexperienced to achieve what we all want - promotion. Kean/Venkys systematically got rid of all the good/experienced players who were the backbone of the team like Samba and Nelson, and even NZonzi who is starring for Stoke every week now - and instead they draughted in the Portugese colony (one or two decent players out of six or seven that came in) and brought in some new 'experienced players' like Scott Dann (who always looks haunted by relegation memories at two clubs now), and Etuhu and Murphy who show only patchy skill and little or no enthusiasm for the fight that is needed in the Championship. The only real 'success' is Rhodes and maybe CKR - plus Vukevic if he is ever given a proper chance to show what he can do. Berg is right - we need good quality and experienced players in key positions quickly. We need a central midfielder and at least one Center Half for starters. Plus one or two other experienced players in other positions like RB for instance which has been a problem area now for three seasons. Berg has to be given time to build his own team - anything else would be ridiculous. He must know though that he has perhaps not lived up to the fans early expectations that he would initially make us harder to beat and more competitive - whilst he built his own side. We need to see what the Jan window Santa brings us now.[/p][/quote]There you go again Froggie /rover/ru insane/rm7 differnet titles but all the same person , all paid Anderson employee, listen **** for brains , stop writing posts in trying to get support for Rovers to spend big in the January transfer window , listen you are employed by these agents ,you will probably get another big bonus if Rovers buy more Portuguesers in the january transfer window . ROVERS SHOULD NOT BUY ANYONE IN THE WINDOW ,TO FUND MORE FAT COMMISSIONS FOR AGENTS . BERG KNEW HIS PLAYERS WHEN HE TOOK THE JOB AND MADE HIS PROMISES WITH THESE SAME PLAYERS , LET BERG DO WHAT HE PROMISED ,GUARANTEED PROMOTION. FRENCH OVER YOU ARE MAKING IT FAR TOO OBVIOUS YOUR ONLY INTEREST IN BERG SPENDING MONEY FOR PLAYERS ,I FOR YOUR OWN PERSONAL FINANCIAL GAIN . **** OBVIOUS BY NOW , IS IT JUST FOR THE FILTHY MONEY YOU DO THIS UNDERHANDED SCHEMING ??[/p][/quote]And to think that I used to get slightly annoyed at your paranoid ramblings - but now I just smile and think - what a shame for you. To be condemned forever as a figure of fun and much ridicule on these pages and I daresay probably in real life (if you know what that is?) also. Once a nutter always a nutter smelly! French Rover

5:21pm Mon 10 Dec 12

Rovers75 says...

nil bye mouth wrote:
Fantastic work agent Berg , agent Kean was a tough act to follow but you have exceeded all our expectations with the great unwashed from fleawood park.Be prepared for the inevitable booing and derogatory comments from T`rovers fans. Take no notice they are a toothless gutless bunch who think the club is theirs but everyman and his dog knows its the chicken plucking venky boys who call all the shots at bollywood park, Clueless classless club IN VENKYS WE TRUST
Classy stuff..... you must be proud of that effort
[quote][p][bold]nil bye mouth[/bold] wrote: Fantastic work agent Berg , agent Kean was a tough act to follow but you have exceeded all our expectations with the great unwashed from fleawood park.Be prepared for the inevitable booing and derogatory comments from T`rovers fans. Take no notice they are a toothless gutless bunch who think the club is theirs but everyman and his dog knows its the chicken plucking venky boys who call all the shots at bollywood park, Clueless classless club IN VENKYS WE TRUST[/p][/quote]Classy stuff..... you must be proud of that effort Rovers75

6:41pm Mon 10 Dec 12

Bazzer says...

Roverthere wrote:
Bazzer wrote:
Return of the Magnificent se7en wrote: Anyway, Ive just finished watching west ham v liverpool, two contrasting styles if ever there were. Lump it Long v short and sweet Hoof it high v keep it neat. Hit and hope v pass and move Hoofball v Football Aussie rules v the beutiful game. Thudd and blunder v skill and craft. Hooves v feet
We have done superbly since ditching Big Sam. And I have noticed you have started talking a little dirty on these posts of late. Turds and things. Any chance we could meet and discuss the merits of Lump it Long vs. Short and sweet?
Yes, one of Sams many skills was to play to your strength. Another is to get results. One of the best managers in Rovers history and probably the best value for money manager in the PL.
Spot on!
[quote][p][bold]Roverthere[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bazzer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Return of the Magnificent se7en[/bold] wrote: Anyway, Ive just finished watching west ham v liverpool, two contrasting styles if ever there were. Lump it Long v short and sweet Hoof it high v keep it neat. Hit and hope v pass and move Hoofball v Football Aussie rules v the beutiful game. Thudd and blunder v skill and craft. Hooves v feet[/p][/quote]We have done superbly since ditching Big Sam. And I have noticed you have started talking a little dirty on these posts of late. Turds and things. Any chance we could meet and discuss the merits of Lump it Long vs. Short and sweet?[/p][/quote]Yes, one of Sams many skills was to play to your strength. Another is to get results. One of the best managers in Rovers history and probably the best value for money manager in the PL.[/p][/quote]Spot on! Bazzer

9:57pm Mon 10 Dec 12

French Rover says...

Bazzer wrote:
Roverthere wrote:
Bazzer wrote:
Return of the Magnificent se7en wrote: Anyway, Ive just finished watching west ham v liverpool, two contrasting styles if ever there were. Lump it Long v short and sweet Hoof it high v keep it neat. Hit and hope v pass and move Hoofball v Football Aussie rules v the beutiful game. Thudd and blunder v skill and craft. Hooves v feet
We have done superbly since ditching Big Sam. And I have noticed you have started talking a little dirty on these posts of late. Turds and things. Any chance we could meet and discuss the merits of Lump it Long vs. Short and sweet?
Yes, one of Sams many skills was to play to your strength. Another is to get results. One of the best managers in Rovers history and probably the best value for money manager in the PL.
Spot on!
aah isn't it sweet...they are having a hoof-ball love in :-) Nice one Bazzer! I will admit that he is a better manager than Kean though...does that get me into the love-in..?
[quote][p][bold]Bazzer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Roverthere[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bazzer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Return of the Magnificent se7en[/bold] wrote: Anyway, Ive just finished watching west ham v liverpool, two contrasting styles if ever there were. Lump it Long v short and sweet Hoof it high v keep it neat. Hit and hope v pass and move Hoofball v Football Aussie rules v the beutiful game. Thudd and blunder v skill and craft. Hooves v feet[/p][/quote]We have done superbly since ditching Big Sam. And I have noticed you have started talking a little dirty on these posts of late. Turds and things. Any chance we could meet and discuss the merits of Lump it Long vs. Short and sweet?[/p][/quote]Yes, one of Sams many skills was to play to your strength. Another is to get results. One of the best managers in Rovers history and probably the best value for money manager in the PL.[/p][/quote]Spot on![/p][/quote]aah isn't it sweet...they are having a hoof-ball love in :-) Nice one Bazzer! I will admit that he is a better manager than Kean though...does that get me into the love-in..? French Rover

10:46am Tue 11 Dec 12

walshy2866 says...

Claretbob wrote:
OnePostThenTheOther wrote:
dorsetclaret wrote:
baz58 says...
5:42am Sat 8 Dec 12

God help us if we where still in the prem!
DOOMED DOOMED LMFAO
your for league 1
nay mind fleetwood not far
You stil couldn't beat our shower of sh8 on your own patch. How is Bumley's promotion push going? Or is just an obsession with your superiors that brings you on here?
Bast**ds superior to the Clarets!! in your dreams.

No more money than sense Jack.

No Walker family money.

No real support.

No hope
You forget ..... No losses in 33 years to the scruffy dingle b@stards

Now why don't you fu.ck off on to your own pages you bitter tw@t
[quote][p][bold]Claretbob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OnePostThenTheOther[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dorsetclaret[/bold] wrote: baz58 says... 5:42am Sat 8 Dec 12 God help us if we where still in the prem! DOOMED DOOMED LMFAO your for league 1 nay mind fleetwood not far[/p][/quote]You stil couldn't beat our shower of sh8 on your own patch. How is Bumley's promotion push going? Or is just an obsession with your superiors that brings you on here?[/p][/quote]Bast**ds superior to the Clarets!! in your dreams. No more money than sense Jack. No Walker family money. No real support. No hope[/p][/quote]You forget ..... No losses in 33 years to the scruffy dingle b@stards Now why don't you fu.ck off on to your own pages you bitter tw@t walshy2866

12:29pm Tue 11 Dec 12

walshy2866 says...

dangerous dave wrote:
please remove 'blueblooded' from allowing comments on this site - his vile comments which are totally untrue and are very hurtful - please supply me with his details as I wish to take further action against this character!!!!!!!
Comments on football and deep held views I can accept but vile posts I cannot
Why don't you two grow up and talk about what this forum is intended for.. Blackburn Rovers matters?
Sick of hearing your veiled threats that will come to nothing as is the case with keyboard warriors
[quote][p][bold]dangerous dave[/bold] wrote: please remove 'blueblooded' from allowing comments on this site - his vile comments which are totally untrue and are very hurtful - please supply me with his details as I wish to take further action against this character!!!!!!! Comments on football and deep held views I can accept but vile posts I cannot[/p][/quote]Why don't you two grow up and talk about what this forum is intended for.. Blackburn Rovers matters? Sick of hearing your veiled threats that will come to nothing as is the case with keyboard warriors walshy2866

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