Dann targets swift top six return for Blackburn Rovers

SCOTT Dann has insisted that Blackburn Rovers must quickly climb back into the Championship’s top six before it’s too late.

A failure to win their last three games has seen Rovers slip to ninth in the table.

Rovers sat sixth after the 4-1 win at Peterborough United, achieved thanks to a hat-trick from Jordan Rhodes.

But Henning Berg’s side have since lost at home to both Millwall and Bolton before being pegged back late on in Sunday’s 1-1 draw with East Lancashire rivals Burnley.

That has now left Rovers four points behind sixth-placed Watford as they prepare for their final five games of 2012.

Rovers host leaders Cardiff on Friday night, in a game that will be shown live on Sky Sports, before a trip to Blackpool and another home match against Brighton.

They travel to Middlesbrough and Barnsley between Christmas and New Year.

And Dann says that the focus must shift back to climbing the table now the big derby match against Burnley has come and gone.

“Obviously there is a lot of hype in those games and we wanted to win for ourselves and the fans,” said the centre back.

“But it was mainly to get the three points and start moving on up the table where we want to be and we think we should be.

“In the next couple of weeks, however we do it, we’re going to have to make sure we get as many points on the board as we can and start moving up the table.”

Both Dann and goalkeeper Paul Robinson impressed in the draw at Turf Moor on Sunday.

And the former Birmingham defender believes Robinson can be an important asset in that sort of form, despite the keeper’s concerns that his place could be under threat as Rovers continue to be linked with a January move for Brad Friedel.

“He made some good saves and had a good game,” Dann said about Robinson’s performance on Sunday.

“On the whole I think we defended really well in the game.

“Obviously if he keeps performing week in week out it’s really good for us.

“And if he keeps performing like that week in week out I don’t think he’ll be going anywhere.”

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1:42pm Wed 5 Dec 12

Nuttall Street says...

So what's Scott Dan doing about it? Is he planning to contribute personally to this miraculous return to the top 6 or is he just commenting on the shortcomings of his teammates? Correct me if I am wrong, but it is in his department that Rovers are worst (and that's saying something considering the sorry state of the midfield.)
So what's Scott Dan doing about it? Is he planning to contribute personally to this miraculous return to the top 6 or is he just commenting on the shortcomings of his teammates? Correct me if I am wrong, but it is in his department that Rovers are worst (and that's saying something considering the sorry state of the midfield.) Nuttall Street

1:44pm Wed 5 Dec 12

Nuttall Street says...

Nuttall Street wrote:
So what's Scott Dan doing about it? Is he planning to contribute personally to this miraculous return to the top 6 or is he just commenting on the shortcomings of his teammates? Correct me if I am wrong, but it is in his department that Rovers are worst (and that's saying something considering the sorry state of the midfield.)
CORRECTION: of course it is in the boardroom that Rovers are at their worst.
[quote][p][bold]Nuttall Street[/bold] wrote: So what's Scott Dan doing about it? Is he planning to contribute personally to this miraculous return to the top 6 or is he just commenting on the shortcomings of his teammates? Correct me if I am wrong, but it is in his department that Rovers are worst (and that's saying something considering the sorry state of the midfield.)[/p][/quote]CORRECTION: of course it is in the boardroom that Rovers are at their worst. Nuttall Street

1:46pm Wed 5 Dec 12

stephenrover says...

Nuttall Street wrote:
So what's Scott Dan doing about it? Is he planning to contribute personally to this miraculous return to the top 6 or is he just commenting on the shortcomings of his teammates? Correct me if I am wrong, but it is in his department that Rovers are worst (and that's saying something considering the sorry state of the midfield.)
Haha well said.

We shouldn't forget that the defence lack the sort of cover provided in most sides by a half decent holding midfielder. But they have been pretty woeful. Up until recently, I'd say Dann's a contender for the title of "new Titus Bramble"
[quote][p][bold]Nuttall Street[/bold] wrote: So what's Scott Dan doing about it? Is he planning to contribute personally to this miraculous return to the top 6 or is he just commenting on the shortcomings of his teammates? Correct me if I am wrong, but it is in his department that Rovers are worst (and that's saying something considering the sorry state of the midfield.)[/p][/quote]Haha well said. We shouldn't forget that the defence lack the sort of cover provided in most sides by a half decent holding midfielder. But they have been pretty woeful. Up until recently, I'd say Dann's a contender for the title of "new Titus Bramble" stephenrover

1:59pm Wed 5 Dec 12

merlinrabbit says...

He had his best game on Sunday helping to cancel threat from Charlie whatshisname. Let's hope he is findng his form. He has to be better than what we've seen bearing in mind he came in under thicko kean who shorly got rid of Samba, froze out Nelsen, fell out with Givet and since then Dann has been playing with young lads. Some folks only come on this site to moan. The players get nothing no matter what they say
He had his best game on Sunday helping to cancel threat from Charlie whatshisname. Let's hope he is findng his form. He has to be better than what we've seen bearing in mind he came in under thicko kean who shorly got rid of Samba, froze out Nelsen, fell out with Givet and since then Dann has been playing with young lads. Some folks only come on this site to moan. The players get nothing no matter what they say merlinrabbit

2:05pm Wed 5 Dec 12

MatthewCA says...

All the talks are very nice, but Week in week out we get one news "Disappointed with defence error"

Our Team is good, few area need to grip. Hope Givit/Dann/Robbo can FIX the BOX like a difficult area to enter.

Dann should improve his skills on set pieces. Converting the corner's to goal is important , u should take the lead for this. Use your height and head on such situvation(example like Chelsea players Terry and Cahill). This way Dann can grade to such levels.

Our team need little hard work to stay together and we will end up in 5th or 6th position in this championship.
All the talks are very nice, but Week in week out we get one news "Disappointed with defence error" Our Team is good, few area need to grip. Hope Givit/Dann/Robbo can FIX the BOX like a difficult area to enter. Dann should improve his skills on set pieces. Converting the corner's to goal is important , u should take the lead for this. Use your height and head on such situvation(example like Chelsea players Terry and Cahill). This way Dann can grade to such levels. Our team need little hard work to stay together and we will end up in 5th or 6th position in this championship. MatthewCA

2:06pm Wed 5 Dec 12

Brfc24138931 says...

Why is this crap being printed. Stop taking the Michael out of the supporters. We all know what the problem is and until everyone as left Ewood we are not going anywhere except downwards. It needs a compete clear out from top to bottom but we know it wont happen. Clueless and completely useless.
Why is this crap being printed. Stop taking the Michael out of the supporters. We all know what the problem is and until everyone as left Ewood we are not going anywhere except downwards. It needs a compete clear out from top to bottom but we know it wont happen. Clueless and completely useless. Brfc24138931

2:09pm Wed 5 Dec 12

Return of the Magnificent se7en says...

Scot Dann had his best game for us aginst the toothless mouthbreathers. Defence is not as bad as eveyone makes out now that Bradley ordinary has gone to Mick bananaman Mcarthy, its the engineroom that has no engine in it. Centre midfield is shocking. Drop murphy and Etuhu and find us a Jermaine Jones, Joey Barton, batty, Robbie savage. Someone to drive the play into the opposition half. That makes it much easier to defend if your not in your own 18 yard box for 3/4 of the game.
Scot Dann had his best game for us aginst the toothless mouthbreathers. Defence is not as bad as eveyone makes out now that Bradley ordinary has gone to Mick bananaman Mcarthy, its the engineroom that has no engine in it. Centre midfield is shocking. Drop murphy and Etuhu and find us a Jermaine Jones, Joey Barton, batty, Robbie savage. Someone to drive the play into the opposition half. That makes it much easier to defend if your not in your own 18 yard box for 3/4 of the game. Return of the Magnificent se7en

2:18pm Wed 5 Dec 12

blueblooded says...

Return of the Magnificent se7en wrote:
Scot Dann had his best game for us aginst the toothless mouthbreathers. Defence is not as bad as eveyone makes out now that Bradley ordinary has gone to Mick bananaman Mcarthy, its the engineroom that has no engine in it. Centre midfield is shocking. Drop murphy and Etuhu and find us a Jermaine Jones, Joey Barton, batty, Robbie savage. Someone to drive the play into the opposition half. That makes it much easier to defend if your not in your own 18 yard box for 3/4 of the game.
agreed.

Though I'd like to see Vuk and Etuhu have a go at partnering.
[quote][p][bold]Return of the Magnificent se7en[/bold] wrote: Scot Dann had his best game for us aginst the toothless mouthbreathers. Defence is not as bad as eveyone makes out now that Bradley ordinary has gone to Mick bananaman Mcarthy, its the engineroom that has no engine in it. Centre midfield is shocking. Drop murphy and Etuhu and find us a Jermaine Jones, Joey Barton, batty, Robbie savage. Someone to drive the play into the opposition half. That makes it much easier to defend if your not in your own 18 yard box for 3/4 of the game.[/p][/quote]agreed. Though I'd like to see Vuk and Etuhu have a go at partnering. blueblooded

2:37pm Wed 5 Dec 12

Return of the Magnificent se7en says...

blueblooded wrote:
Return of the Magnificent se7en wrote:
Scot Dann had his best game for us aginst the toothless mouthbreathers. Defence is not as bad as eveyone makes out now that Bradley ordinary has gone to Mick bananaman Mcarthy, its the engineroom that has no engine in it. Centre midfield is shocking. Drop murphy and Etuhu and find us a Jermaine Jones, Joey Barton, batty, Robbie savage. Someone to drive the play into the opposition half. That makes it much easier to defend if your not in your own 18 yard box for 3/4 of the game.
agreed.

Though I'd like to see Vuk and Etuhu have a go at partnering.
At the moment we seem a very left sided team, Pedersen, both olsons fabio nunes, not to mention this josh king lad so why did we sign him when down the right we have nothing? Admittedly I would like to see vuckevic given a go on the right or right centre but another reason we are easier to contend with is we only use the left. why have we cornered the market in left sided players, I mean before that we had Hoilett. CKR is really a forward who we play out wide and henley behind him isn't he left sided too, not to mention Lowe who is a centre mid. What we need is balance, not square pegs in round holes.
[quote][p][bold]blueblooded[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Return of the Magnificent se7en[/bold] wrote: Scot Dann had his best game for us aginst the toothless mouthbreathers. Defence is not as bad as eveyone makes out now that Bradley ordinary has gone to Mick bananaman Mcarthy, its the engineroom that has no engine in it. Centre midfield is shocking. Drop murphy and Etuhu and find us a Jermaine Jones, Joey Barton, batty, Robbie savage. Someone to drive the play into the opposition half. That makes it much easier to defend if your not in your own 18 yard box for 3/4 of the game.[/p][/quote]agreed. Though I'd like to see Vuk and Etuhu have a go at partnering.[/p][/quote]At the moment we seem a very left sided team, Pedersen, both olsons fabio nunes, not to mention this josh king lad so why did we sign him when down the right we have nothing? Admittedly I would like to see vuckevic given a go on the right or right centre but another reason we are easier to contend with is we only use the left. why have we cornered the market in left sided players, I mean before that we had Hoilett. CKR is really a forward who we play out wide and henley behind him isn't he left sided too, not to mention Lowe who is a centre mid. What we need is balance, not square pegs in round holes. Return of the Magnificent se7en

2:58pm Wed 5 Dec 12

juanbbien says...

Yeh right,well get yourself and the rest of the team to roll their sleeves up start Puting a shift in for ninty minutes and special concentration on any extra time to be played ,match in and match out,this is the only way to attain the desired result,that you owe to the fans,I wonder what our owners take on proceedings are so far. Bloody nothing as usual.
Yeh right,well get yourself and the rest of the team to roll their sleeves up start Puting a shift in for ninty minutes and special concentration on any extra time to be played ,match in and match out,this is the only way to attain the desired result,that you owe to the fans,I wonder what our owners take on proceedings are so far. Bloody nothing as usual. juanbbien

3:09pm Wed 5 Dec 12

cboyer says...

stephenrover wrote:
Nuttall Street wrote:
So what's Scott Dan doing about it? Is he planning to contribute personally to this miraculous return to the top 6 or is he just commenting on the shortcomings of his teammates? Correct me if I am wrong, but it is in his department that Rovers are worst (and that's saying something considering the sorry state of the midfield.)
Haha well said.

We shouldn't forget that the defence lack the sort of cover provided in most sides by a half decent holding midfielder. But they have been pretty woeful. Up until recently, I'd say Dann's a contender for the title of "new Titus Bramble"
i think any defence would struggle with our midfield in front of them they dont close people down at all they are lazy
[quote][p][bold]stephenrover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nuttall Street[/bold] wrote: So what's Scott Dan doing about it? Is he planning to contribute personally to this miraculous return to the top 6 or is he just commenting on the shortcomings of his teammates? Correct me if I am wrong, but it is in his department that Rovers are worst (and that's saying something considering the sorry state of the midfield.)[/p][/quote]Haha well said. We shouldn't forget that the defence lack the sort of cover provided in most sides by a half decent holding midfielder. But they have been pretty woeful. Up until recently, I'd say Dann's a contender for the title of "new Titus Bramble"[/p][/quote]i think any defence would struggle with our midfield in front of them they dont close people down at all they are lazy cboyer

3:34pm Wed 5 Dec 12

MxMave says...

I rate Dann. Hanley is not a scratch on Givet though.
I rate Dann. Hanley is not a scratch on Givet though. MxMave

3:58pm Wed 5 Dec 12

blueblooded says...

Return of the Magnificent se7en wrote:
blueblooded wrote:
Return of the Magnificent se7en wrote:
Scot Dann had his best game for us aginst the toothless mouthbreathers. Defence is not as bad as eveyone makes out now that Bradley ordinary has gone to Mick bananaman Mcarthy, its the engineroom that has no engine in it. Centre midfield is shocking. Drop murphy and Etuhu and find us a Jermaine Jones, Joey Barton, batty, Robbie savage. Someone to drive the play into the opposition half. That makes it much easier to defend if your not in your own 18 yard box for 3/4 of the game.
agreed.

Though I'd like to see Vuk and Etuhu have a go at partnering.
At the moment we seem a very left sided team, Pedersen, both olsons fabio nunes, not to mention this josh king lad so why did we sign him when down the right we have nothing? Admittedly I would like to see vuckevic given a go on the right or right centre but another reason we are easier to contend with is we only use the left. why have we cornered the market in left sided players, I mean before that we had Hoilett. CKR is really a forward who we play out wide and henley behind him isn't he left sided too, not to mention Lowe who is a centre mid. What we need is balance, not square pegs in round holes.
Vuk appears to be versatile. and appears to be chomping at the bits to get into games. I'd play him on the right and see if he can play there. We really need to play him for ninety minutes instead of leaving him on the bench till 80.
[quote][p][bold]Return of the Magnificent se7en[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]blueblooded[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Return of the Magnificent se7en[/bold] wrote: Scot Dann had his best game for us aginst the toothless mouthbreathers. Defence is not as bad as eveyone makes out now that Bradley ordinary has gone to Mick bananaman Mcarthy, its the engineroom that has no engine in it. Centre midfield is shocking. Drop murphy and Etuhu and find us a Jermaine Jones, Joey Barton, batty, Robbie savage. Someone to drive the play into the opposition half. That makes it much easier to defend if your not in your own 18 yard box for 3/4 of the game.[/p][/quote]agreed. Though I'd like to see Vuk and Etuhu have a go at partnering.[/p][/quote]At the moment we seem a very left sided team, Pedersen, both olsons fabio nunes, not to mention this josh king lad so why did we sign him when down the right we have nothing? Admittedly I would like to see vuckevic given a go on the right or right centre but another reason we are easier to contend with is we only use the left. why have we cornered the market in left sided players, I mean before that we had Hoilett. CKR is really a forward who we play out wide and henley behind him isn't he left sided too, not to mention Lowe who is a centre mid. What we need is balance, not square pegs in round holes.[/p][/quote]Vuk appears to be versatile. and appears to be chomping at the bits to get into games. I'd play him on the right and see if he can play there. We really need to play him for ninety minutes instead of leaving him on the bench till 80. blueblooded

4:04pm Wed 5 Dec 12

srvp28 says...

Return of the Magnificent se7en wrote:
blueblooded wrote:
Return of the Magnificent se7en wrote:
Scot Dann had his best game for us aginst the toothless mouthbreathers. Defence is not as bad as eveyone makes out now that Bradley ordinary has gone to Mick bananaman Mcarthy, its the engineroom that has no engine in it. Centre midfield is shocking. Drop murphy and Etuhu and find us a Jermaine Jones, Joey Barton, batty, Robbie savage. Someone to drive the play into the opposition half. That makes it much easier to defend if your not in your own 18 yard box for 3/4 of the game.
agreed.

Though I'd like to see Vuk and Etuhu have a go at partnering.
At the moment we seem a very left sided team, Pedersen, both olsons fabio nunes, not to mention this josh king lad so why did we sign him when down the right we have nothing? Admittedly I would like to see vuckevic given a go on the right or right centre but another reason we are easier to contend with is we only use the left. why have we cornered the market in left sided players, I mean before that we had Hoilett. CKR is really a forward who we play out wide and henley behind him isn't he left sided too, not to mention Lowe who is a centre mid. What we need is balance, not square pegs in round holes.
I agree that we're a very left sided team but Kazim-Richards is NOT a forward who we play out left, he's a right-winger who Steve Kean decided was a second striker. He's only been played out on the right in two or three games, that position is usually filled by Formica, a central attacking midfielder, Nunes, a left-winger, or Lowe, a central midfielder/makeshift right-back. Berg needs to stop making the same mistakes as Kean by playing the lads out of position.

If we had our full compliment of players available for Friday I'd like to see us play 433 with two wingers whipping the ball in for Rhodes. My starting XI would be: Robinson, Henley, Dann, Givet, Martin Olsson, Lowe, Murphy, Dunn, Vukcevic, Rhodes, Nunes.
[quote][p][bold]Return of the Magnificent se7en[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]blueblooded[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Return of the Magnificent se7en[/bold] wrote: Scot Dann had his best game for us aginst the toothless mouthbreathers. Defence is not as bad as eveyone makes out now that Bradley ordinary has gone to Mick bananaman Mcarthy, its the engineroom that has no engine in it. Centre midfield is shocking. Drop murphy and Etuhu and find us a Jermaine Jones, Joey Barton, batty, Robbie savage. Someone to drive the play into the opposition half. That makes it much easier to defend if your not in your own 18 yard box for 3/4 of the game.[/p][/quote]agreed. Though I'd like to see Vuk and Etuhu have a go at partnering.[/p][/quote]At the moment we seem a very left sided team, Pedersen, both olsons fabio nunes, not to mention this josh king lad so why did we sign him when down the right we have nothing? Admittedly I would like to see vuckevic given a go on the right or right centre but another reason we are easier to contend with is we only use the left. why have we cornered the market in left sided players, I mean before that we had Hoilett. CKR is really a forward who we play out wide and henley behind him isn't he left sided too, not to mention Lowe who is a centre mid. What we need is balance, not square pegs in round holes.[/p][/quote]I agree that we're a very left sided team but Kazim-Richards is NOT a forward who we play out left, he's a right-winger who Steve Kean decided was a second striker. He's only been played out on the right in two or three games, that position is usually filled by Formica, a central attacking midfielder, Nunes, a left-winger, or Lowe, a central midfielder/makeshift right-back. Berg needs to stop making the same mistakes as Kean by playing the lads out of position. If we had our full compliment of players available for Friday I'd like to see us play 433 with two wingers whipping the ball in for Rhodes. My starting XI would be: Robinson, Henley, Dann, Givet, Martin Olsson, Lowe, Murphy, Dunn, Vukcevic, Rhodes, Nunes. srvp28

4:04pm Wed 5 Dec 12

srvp28 says...

srvp28 wrote:
Return of the Magnificent se7en wrote:
blueblooded wrote:
Return of the Magnificent se7en wrote:
Scot Dann had his best game for us aginst the toothless mouthbreathers. Defence is not as bad as eveyone makes out now that Bradley ordinary has gone to Mick bananaman Mcarthy, its the engineroom that has no engine in it. Centre midfield is shocking. Drop murphy and Etuhu and find us a Jermaine Jones, Joey Barton, batty, Robbie savage. Someone to drive the play into the opposition half. That makes it much easier to defend if your not in your own 18 yard box for 3/4 of the game.
agreed.

Though I'd like to see Vuk and Etuhu have a go at partnering.
At the moment we seem a very left sided team, Pedersen, both olsons fabio nunes, not to mention this josh king lad so why did we sign him when down the right we have nothing? Admittedly I would like to see vuckevic given a go on the right or right centre but another reason we are easier to contend with is we only use the left. why have we cornered the market in left sided players, I mean before that we had Hoilett. CKR is really a forward who we play out wide and henley behind him isn't he left sided too, not to mention Lowe who is a centre mid. What we need is balance, not square pegs in round holes.
I agree that we're a very left sided team but Kazim-Richards is NOT a forward who we play out left, he's a right-winger who Steve Kean decided was a second striker. He's only been played out on the right in two or three games, that position is usually filled by Formica, a central attacking midfielder, Nunes, a left-winger, or Lowe, a central midfielder/makeshift right-back. Berg needs to stop making the same mistakes as Kean by playing the lads out of position.

If we had our full compliment of players available for Friday I'd like to see us play 433 with two wingers whipping the ball in for Rhodes. My starting XI would be: Robinson, Henley, Dann, Givet, Martin Olsson, Lowe, Murphy, Dunn, Vukcevic, Rhodes, Nunes.
* right
[quote][p][bold]srvp28[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Return of the Magnificent se7en[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]blueblooded[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Return of the Magnificent se7en[/bold] wrote: Scot Dann had his best game for us aginst the toothless mouthbreathers. Defence is not as bad as eveyone makes out now that Bradley ordinary has gone to Mick bananaman Mcarthy, its the engineroom that has no engine in it. Centre midfield is shocking. Drop murphy and Etuhu and find us a Jermaine Jones, Joey Barton, batty, Robbie savage. Someone to drive the play into the opposition half. That makes it much easier to defend if your not in your own 18 yard box for 3/4 of the game.[/p][/quote]agreed. Though I'd like to see Vuk and Etuhu have a go at partnering.[/p][/quote]At the moment we seem a very left sided team, Pedersen, both olsons fabio nunes, not to mention this josh king lad so why did we sign him when down the right we have nothing? Admittedly I would like to see vuckevic given a go on the right or right centre but another reason we are easier to contend with is we only use the left. why have we cornered the market in left sided players, I mean before that we had Hoilett. CKR is really a forward who we play out wide and henley behind him isn't he left sided too, not to mention Lowe who is a centre mid. What we need is balance, not square pegs in round holes.[/p][/quote]I agree that we're a very left sided team but Kazim-Richards is NOT a forward who we play out left, he's a right-winger who Steve Kean decided was a second striker. He's only been played out on the right in two or three games, that position is usually filled by Formica, a central attacking midfielder, Nunes, a left-winger, or Lowe, a central midfielder/makeshift right-back. Berg needs to stop making the same mistakes as Kean by playing the lads out of position. If we had our full compliment of players available for Friday I'd like to see us play 433 with two wingers whipping the ball in for Rhodes. My starting XI would be: Robinson, Henley, Dann, Givet, Martin Olsson, Lowe, Murphy, Dunn, Vukcevic, Rhodes, Nunes.[/p][/quote]* right srvp28

4:28pm Wed 5 Dec 12

French Rover says...

Midfield is the main issue for me that is causing us two major problems in every match and costing us points:

1) They constantly put pressure on our defense by not keeping/winning/usin
g the ball.

2) They are starving Rhodes and others of goal scoring opportunities by not linking up and/or starting the attacks or even by scoring some goals themselves.

Unbelievably our second highest goalscorer is Nuno Gomez with 4 goals - and he hasn't played for three months almost. So not enough goals from the team in general - a good job we have JR but he cant be expected to carry the side all season.

So despite a lot of bad press for the defense - it is probably the best performing part of the team with only a handful of teams in this league actually conceding less goals so far this season.
Midfield is the main issue for me that is causing us two major problems in every match and costing us points: 1) They constantly put pressure on our defense by not keeping/winning/usin g the ball. 2) They are starving Rhodes and others of goal scoring opportunities by not linking up and/or starting the attacks or even by scoring some goals themselves. Unbelievably our second highest goalscorer is Nuno Gomez with 4 goals - and he hasn't played for three months almost. So not enough goals from the team in general - a good job we have JR but he cant be expected to carry the side all season. So despite a lot of bad press for the defense - it is probably the best performing part of the team with only a handful of teams in this league actually conceding less goals so far this season. French Rover

4:30pm Wed 5 Dec 12

AndyW says...

He's been playing quite well this season in fairness.

Let's hope he can make the step up next season.
He's been playing quite well this season in fairness. Let's hope he can make the step up next season. AndyW

4:51pm Wed 5 Dec 12

Bazzer says...

French Rover wrote:
Midfield is the main issue for me that is causing us two major problems in every match and costing us points: 1) They constantly put pressure on our defense by not keeping/winning/usin g the ball. 2) They are starving Rhodes and others of goal scoring opportunities by not linking up and/or starting the attacks or even by scoring some goals themselves. Unbelievably our second highest goalscorer is Nuno Gomez with 4 goals - and he hasn't played for three months almost. So not enough goals from the team in general - a good job we have JR but he cant be expected to carry the side all season. So despite a lot of bad press for the defense - it is probably the best performing part of the team with only a handful of teams in this league actually conceding less goals so far this season.
So not only do you betray England by clearing off to France, you betray your native tongue with Americanised spelling. "Defense" indeed! You will be using "offense" for "attack" next.
[quote][p][bold]French Rover[/bold] wrote: Midfield is the main issue for me that is causing us two major problems in every match and costing us points: 1) They constantly put pressure on our defense by not keeping/winning/usin g the ball. 2) They are starving Rhodes and others of goal scoring opportunities by not linking up and/or starting the attacks or even by scoring some goals themselves. Unbelievably our second highest goalscorer is Nuno Gomez with 4 goals - and he hasn't played for three months almost. So not enough goals from the team in general - a good job we have JR but he cant be expected to carry the side all season. So despite a lot of bad press for the defense - it is probably the best performing part of the team with only a handful of teams in this league actually conceding less goals so far this season.[/p][/quote]So not only do you betray England by clearing off to France, you betray your native tongue with Americanised spelling. "Defense" indeed! You will be using "offense" for "attack" next. Bazzer

4:52pm Wed 5 Dec 12

Return of the Magnificent se7en says...

srvp28 wrote:
srvp28 wrote:
Return of the Magnificent se7en wrote:
blueblooded wrote:
Return of the Magnificent se7en wrote:
Scot Dann had his best game for us aginst the toothless mouthbreathers. Defence is not as bad as eveyone makes out now that Bradley ordinary has gone to Mick bananaman Mcarthy, its the engineroom that has no engine in it. Centre midfield is shocking. Drop murphy and Etuhu and find us a Jermaine Jones, Joey Barton, batty, Robbie savage. Someone to drive the play into the opposition half. That makes it much easier to defend if your not in your own 18 yard box for 3/4 of the game.
agreed.

Though I'd like to see Vuk and Etuhu have a go at partnering.
At the moment we seem a very left sided team, Pedersen, both olsons fabio nunes, not to mention this josh king lad so why did we sign him when down the right we have nothing? Admittedly I would like to see vuckevic given a go on the right or right centre but another reason we are easier to contend with is we only use the left. why have we cornered the market in left sided players, I mean before that we had Hoilett. CKR is really a forward who we play out wide and henley behind him isn't he left sided too, not to mention Lowe who is a centre mid. What we need is balance, not square pegs in round holes.
I agree that we're a very left sided team but Kazim-Richards is NOT a forward who we play out left, he's a right-winger who Steve Kean decided was a second striker. He's only been played out on the right in two or three games, that position is usually filled by Formica, a central attacking midfielder, Nunes, a left-winger, or Lowe, a central midfielder/makeshift right-back. Berg needs to stop making the same mistakes as Kean by playing the lads out of position.

If we had our full compliment of players available for Friday I'd like to see us play 433 with two wingers whipping the ball in for Rhodes. My starting XI would be: Robinson, Henley, Dann, Givet, Martin Olsson, Lowe, Murphy, Dunn, Vukcevic, Rhodes, Nunes.
* right
Right on, but for me Murphy has been a major dissappointment and as french rover says we are playing too deep to combat his lack of pace which puts pressure on the defence, This in turn makes the hoofball merchants who only see hoof flick goal think we have a defensive problem when in fact we have a central midfield problem. So for me murphy can leave the club. We need a combative midfielder, one who puts in the leg work and drives play forward.
[quote][p][bold]srvp28[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]srvp28[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Return of the Magnificent se7en[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]blueblooded[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Return of the Magnificent se7en[/bold] wrote: Scot Dann had his best game for us aginst the toothless mouthbreathers. Defence is not as bad as eveyone makes out now that Bradley ordinary has gone to Mick bananaman Mcarthy, its the engineroom that has no engine in it. Centre midfield is shocking. Drop murphy and Etuhu and find us a Jermaine Jones, Joey Barton, batty, Robbie savage. Someone to drive the play into the opposition half. That makes it much easier to defend if your not in your own 18 yard box for 3/4 of the game.[/p][/quote]agreed. Though I'd like to see Vuk and Etuhu have a go at partnering.[/p][/quote]At the moment we seem a very left sided team, Pedersen, both olsons fabio nunes, not to mention this josh king lad so why did we sign him when down the right we have nothing? Admittedly I would like to see vuckevic given a go on the right or right centre but another reason we are easier to contend with is we only use the left. why have we cornered the market in left sided players, I mean before that we had Hoilett. CKR is really a forward who we play out wide and henley behind him isn't he left sided too, not to mention Lowe who is a centre mid. What we need is balance, not square pegs in round holes.[/p][/quote]I agree that we're a very left sided team but Kazim-Richards is NOT a forward who we play out left, he's a right-winger who Steve Kean decided was a second striker. He's only been played out on the right in two or three games, that position is usually filled by Formica, a central attacking midfielder, Nunes, a left-winger, or Lowe, a central midfielder/makeshift right-back. Berg needs to stop making the same mistakes as Kean by playing the lads out of position. If we had our full compliment of players available for Friday I'd like to see us play 433 with two wingers whipping the ball in for Rhodes. My starting XI would be: Robinson, Henley, Dann, Givet, Martin Olsson, Lowe, Murphy, Dunn, Vukcevic, Rhodes, Nunes.[/p][/quote]* right[/p][/quote]Right on, but for me Murphy has been a major dissappointment and as french rover says we are playing too deep to combat his lack of pace which puts pressure on the defence, This in turn makes the hoofball merchants who only see hoof flick goal think we have a defensive problem when in fact we have a central midfield problem. So for me murphy can leave the club. We need a combative midfielder, one who puts in the leg work and drives play forward. Return of the Magnificent se7en

5:06pm Wed 5 Dec 12

rovertillidie says...

For me Murphy can no longer contribute, he has no pace, little strength and gets over run too easily. Etuhu is too slow and pedestrian. Lowe is ok but that is all and again is not a forceful box to box midfielder. None of them will contribute goals as they do not get into the oppositions box. Vukevic is a possibility but is unproven and we cannot afford to risk him in our perilous position. Formica is lightweight, Rochina cannot be trusted in our own half as he will lose possession too easily. Dunny cannot last a half as his calves will burst. Herein lies a major problem for Henning Berg to solve. he has been left with a major central midfield problem and I can only see one solution the January transfer window. Lets hope we can cling onto the playoffs until then.
For me Murphy can no longer contribute, he has no pace, little strength and gets over run too easily. Etuhu is too slow and pedestrian. Lowe is ok but that is all and again is not a forceful box to box midfielder. None of them will contribute goals as they do not get into the oppositions box. Vukevic is a possibility but is unproven and we cannot afford to risk him in our perilous position. Formica is lightweight, Rochina cannot be trusted in our own half as he will lose possession too easily. Dunny cannot last a half as his calves will burst. Herein lies a major problem for Henning Berg to solve. he has been left with a major central midfield problem and I can only see one solution the January transfer window. Lets hope we can cling onto the playoffs until then. rovertillidie

5:09pm Wed 5 Dec 12

A Rover 45 years and over says...

I wish these players would stop talking rubish and get there heads down to win some games because the present form is of relegation candidates. We need our present keeper come what may and all we are getting now is talk of dumping him. The whole management set up down there are behaving like clowns and do not give any confidence for the future. There are too many inexperienced people now at Rovers since they sacked all the proven ones and are now dishing up a recipe for long term disaster.
I wish these players would stop talking rubish and get there heads down to win some games because the present form is of relegation candidates. We need our present keeper come what may and all we are getting now is talk of dumping him. The whole management set up down there are behaving like clowns and do not give any confidence for the future. There are too many inexperienced people now at Rovers since they sacked all the proven ones and are now dishing up a recipe for long term disaster. A Rover 45 years and over

5:24pm Wed 5 Dec 12

srvp28 says...

Return of the Magnificent se7en wrote:
srvp28 wrote:
srvp28 wrote:
Return of the Magnificent se7en wrote:
blueblooded wrote:
Return of the Magnificent se7en wrote:
Scot Dann had his best game for us aginst the toothless mouthbreathers. Defence is not as bad as eveyone makes out now that Bradley ordinary has gone to Mick bananaman Mcarthy, its the engineroom that has no engine in it. Centre midfield is shocking. Drop murphy and Etuhu and find us a Jermaine Jones, Joey Barton, batty, Robbie savage. Someone to drive the play into the opposition half. That makes it much easier to defend if your not in your own 18 yard box for 3/4 of the game.
agreed.

Though I'd like to see Vuk and Etuhu have a go at partnering.
At the moment we seem a very left sided team, Pedersen, both olsons fabio nunes, not to mention this josh king lad so why did we sign him when down the right we have nothing? Admittedly I would like to see vuckevic given a go on the right or right centre but another reason we are easier to contend with is we only use the left. why have we cornered the market in left sided players, I mean before that we had Hoilett. CKR is really a forward who we play out wide and henley behind him isn't he left sided too, not to mention Lowe who is a centre mid. What we need is balance, not square pegs in round holes.
I agree that we're a very left sided team but Kazim-Richards is NOT a forward who we play out left, he's a right-winger who Steve Kean decided was a second striker. He's only been played out on the right in two or three games, that position is usually filled by Formica, a central attacking midfielder, Nunes, a left-winger, or Lowe, a central midfielder/makeshift right-back. Berg needs to stop making the same mistakes as Kean by playing the lads out of position.

If we had our full compliment of players available for Friday I'd like to see us play 433 with two wingers whipping the ball in for Rhodes. My starting XI would be: Robinson, Henley, Dann, Givet, Martin Olsson, Lowe, Murphy, Dunn, Vukcevic, Rhodes, Nunes.
* right
Right on, but for me Murphy has been a major dissappointment and as french rover says we are playing too deep to combat his lack of pace which puts pressure on the defence, This in turn makes the hoofball merchants who only see hoof flick goal think we have a defensive problem when in fact we have a central midfield problem. So for me murphy can leave the club. We need a combative midfielder, one who puts in the leg work and drives play forward.
I fully agree that we need a combative midfielder, I was only selecting players that we have available to us now though. I know Murphy has been disappointing but so has Etuhu. We haven't seen enough of Jorge for me to include him in my team so I've gone for a three man midfield where Lowe is sat deepest, doing the majority of the running. Murphy may be slow but he's still technically gifted so I'd sit him in the centre of the park where he can pick out passes to the wingers or play a through-ball to Dunn - who'd be in a more advanced role - or straight through to Rhodes should the opportunity arise. Set up like this Murphy should easily be able to see the game out, whereas Dunn could be replaced by Formica, Rochina, Pedersen or even Nuno Gomes.

Vukcevic and Nunes are fit enough to patrol the flanks, especially with Henley and Olsson covering them, and we've got ready made replacements in Kazim-Richards, Marcus Olsson and, dare I say it, Bruno Ribeiro. I never expected N'Zonzi to stay but I thought the club were a little premature letting Petrovic go. He was never up to scratch in the Premier League but I always believed he could do a job for us in the more physical, less technical Championship. I'd rather have a player running around like a headless chicken, making a nuisance of himself, than a player who gives up the moment the opposing player as beaten him.
[quote][p][bold]Return of the Magnificent se7en[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]srvp28[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]srvp28[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Return of the Magnificent se7en[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]blueblooded[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Return of the Magnificent se7en[/bold] wrote: Scot Dann had his best game for us aginst the toothless mouthbreathers. Defence is not as bad as eveyone makes out now that Bradley ordinary has gone to Mick bananaman Mcarthy, its the engineroom that has no engine in it. Centre midfield is shocking. Drop murphy and Etuhu and find us a Jermaine Jones, Joey Barton, batty, Robbie savage. Someone to drive the play into the opposition half. That makes it much easier to defend if your not in your own 18 yard box for 3/4 of the game.[/p][/quote]agreed. Though I'd like to see Vuk and Etuhu have a go at partnering.[/p][/quote]At the moment we seem a very left sided team, Pedersen, both olsons fabio nunes, not to mention this josh king lad so why did we sign him when down the right we have nothing? Admittedly I would like to see vuckevic given a go on the right or right centre but another reason we are easier to contend with is we only use the left. why have we cornered the market in left sided players, I mean before that we had Hoilett. CKR is really a forward who we play out wide and henley behind him isn't he left sided too, not to mention Lowe who is a centre mid. What we need is balance, not square pegs in round holes.[/p][/quote]I agree that we're a very left sided team but Kazim-Richards is NOT a forward who we play out left, he's a right-winger who Steve Kean decided was a second striker. He's only been played out on the right in two or three games, that position is usually filled by Formica, a central attacking midfielder, Nunes, a left-winger, or Lowe, a central midfielder/makeshift right-back. Berg needs to stop making the same mistakes as Kean by playing the lads out of position. If we had our full compliment of players available for Friday I'd like to see us play 433 with two wingers whipping the ball in for Rhodes. My starting XI would be: Robinson, Henley, Dann, Givet, Martin Olsson, Lowe, Murphy, Dunn, Vukcevic, Rhodes, Nunes.[/p][/quote]* right[/p][/quote]Right on, but for me Murphy has been a major dissappointment and as french rover says we are playing too deep to combat his lack of pace which puts pressure on the defence, This in turn makes the hoofball merchants who only see hoof flick goal think we have a defensive problem when in fact we have a central midfield problem. So for me murphy can leave the club. We need a combative midfielder, one who puts in the leg work and drives play forward.[/p][/quote]I fully agree that we need a combative midfielder, I was only selecting players that we have available to us now though. I know Murphy has been disappointing but so has Etuhu. We haven't seen enough of Jorge for me to include him in my team so I've gone for a three man midfield where Lowe is sat deepest, doing the majority of the running. Murphy may be slow but he's still technically gifted so I'd sit him in the centre of the park where he can pick out passes to the wingers or play a through-ball to Dunn - who'd be in a more advanced role - or straight through to Rhodes should the opportunity arise. Set up like this Murphy should easily be able to see the game out, whereas Dunn could be replaced by Formica, Rochina, Pedersen or even Nuno Gomes. Vukcevic and Nunes are fit enough to patrol the flanks, especially with Henley and Olsson covering them, and we've got ready made replacements in Kazim-Richards, Marcus Olsson and, dare I say it, Bruno Ribeiro. I never expected N'Zonzi to stay but I thought the club were a little premature letting Petrovic go. He was never up to scratch in the Premier League but I always believed he could do a job for us in the more physical, less technical Championship. I'd rather have a player running around like a headless chicken, making a nuisance of himself, than a player who gives up the moment the opposing player as beaten him. srvp28

5:47pm Wed 5 Dec 12

blueblooded says...

srvp28 wrote:
Return of the Magnificent se7en wrote:
srvp28 wrote:
srvp28 wrote:
Return of the Magnificent se7en wrote:
blueblooded wrote:
Return of the Magnificent se7en wrote:
Scot Dann had his best game for us aginst the toothless mouthbreathers. Defence is not as bad as eveyone makes out now that Bradley ordinary has gone to Mick bananaman Mcarthy, its the engineroom that has no engine in it. Centre midfield is shocking. Drop murphy and Etuhu and find us a Jermaine Jones, Joey Barton, batty, Robbie savage. Someone to drive the play into the opposition half. That makes it much easier to defend if your not in your own 18 yard box for 3/4 of the game.
agreed.

Though I'd like to see Vuk and Etuhu have a go at partnering.
At the moment we seem a very left sided team, Pedersen, both olsons fabio nunes, not to mention this josh king lad so why did we sign him when down the right we have nothing? Admittedly I would like to see vuckevic given a go on the right or right centre but another reason we are easier to contend with is we only use the left. why have we cornered the market in left sided players, I mean before that we had Hoilett. CKR is really a forward who we play out wide and henley behind him isn't he left sided too, not to mention Lowe who is a centre mid. What we need is balance, not square pegs in round holes.
I agree that we're a very left sided team but Kazim-Richards is NOT a forward who we play out left, he's a right-winger who Steve Kean decided was a second striker. He's only been played out on the right in two or three games, that position is usually filled by Formica, a central attacking midfielder, Nunes, a left-winger, or Lowe, a central midfielder/makeshift right-back. Berg needs to stop making the same mistakes as Kean by playing the lads out of position.

If we had our full compliment of players available for Friday I'd like to see us play 433 with two wingers whipping the ball in for Rhodes. My starting XI would be: Robinson, Henley, Dann, Givet, Martin Olsson, Lowe, Murphy, Dunn, Vukcevic, Rhodes, Nunes.
* right
Right on, but for me Murphy has been a major dissappointment and as french rover says we are playing too deep to combat his lack of pace which puts pressure on the defence, This in turn makes the hoofball merchants who only see hoof flick goal think we have a defensive problem when in fact we have a central midfield problem. So for me murphy can leave the club. We need a combative midfielder, one who puts in the leg work and drives play forward.
I fully agree that we need a combative midfielder, I was only selecting players that we have available to us now though. I know Murphy has been disappointing but so has Etuhu. We haven't seen enough of Jorge for me to include him in my team so I've gone for a three man midfield where Lowe is sat deepest, doing the majority of the running. Murphy may be slow but he's still technically gifted so I'd sit him in the centre of the park where he can pick out passes to the wingers or play a through-ball to Dunn - who'd be in a more advanced role - or straight through to Rhodes should the opportunity arise. Set up like this Murphy should easily be able to see the game out, whereas Dunn could be replaced by Formica, Rochina, Pedersen or even Nuno Gomes.

Vukcevic and Nunes are fit enough to patrol the flanks, especially with Henley and Olsson covering them, and we've got ready made replacements in Kazim-Richards, Marcus Olsson and, dare I say it, Bruno Ribeiro. I never expected N'Zonzi to stay but I thought the club were a little premature letting Petrovic go. He was never up to scratch in the Premier League but I always believed he could do a job for us in the more physical, less technical Championship. I'd rather have a player running around like a headless chicken, making a nuisance of himself, than a player who gives up the moment the opposing player as beaten him.
.. And lest we forget.. Don't we still have Bruno? Or am I missing a few events.. He certainly has.
[quote][p][bold]srvp28[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Return of the Magnificent se7en[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]srvp28[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]srvp28[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Return of the Magnificent se7en[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]blueblooded[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Return of the Magnificent se7en[/bold] wrote: Scot Dann had his best game for us aginst the toothless mouthbreathers. Defence is not as bad as eveyone makes out now that Bradley ordinary has gone to Mick bananaman Mcarthy, its the engineroom that has no engine in it. Centre midfield is shocking. Drop murphy and Etuhu and find us a Jermaine Jones, Joey Barton, batty, Robbie savage. Someone to drive the play into the opposition half. That makes it much easier to defend if your not in your own 18 yard box for 3/4 of the game.[/p][/quote]agreed. Though I'd like to see Vuk and Etuhu have a go at partnering.[/p][/quote]At the moment we seem a very left sided team, Pedersen, both olsons fabio nunes, not to mention this josh king lad so why did we sign him when down the right we have nothing? Admittedly I would like to see vuckevic given a go on the right or right centre but another reason we are easier to contend with is we only use the left. why have we cornered the market in left sided players, I mean before that we had Hoilett. CKR is really a forward who we play out wide and henley behind him isn't he left sided too, not to mention Lowe who is a centre mid. What we need is balance, not square pegs in round holes.[/p][/quote]I agree that we're a very left sided team but Kazim-Richards is NOT a forward who we play out left, he's a right-winger who Steve Kean decided was a second striker. He's only been played out on the right in two or three games, that position is usually filled by Formica, a central attacking midfielder, Nunes, a left-winger, or Lowe, a central midfielder/makeshift right-back. Berg needs to stop making the same mistakes as Kean by playing the lads out of position. If we had our full compliment of players available for Friday I'd like to see us play 433 with two wingers whipping the ball in for Rhodes. My starting XI would be: Robinson, Henley, Dann, Givet, Martin Olsson, Lowe, Murphy, Dunn, Vukcevic, Rhodes, Nunes.[/p][/quote]* right[/p][/quote]Right on, but for me Murphy has been a major dissappointment and as french rover says we are playing too deep to combat his lack of pace which puts pressure on the defence, This in turn makes the hoofball merchants who only see hoof flick goal think we have a defensive problem when in fact we have a central midfield problem. So for me murphy can leave the club. We need a combative midfielder, one who puts in the leg work and drives play forward.[/p][/quote]I fully agree that we need a combative midfielder, I was only selecting players that we have available to us now though. I know Murphy has been disappointing but so has Etuhu. We haven't seen enough of Jorge for me to include him in my team so I've gone for a three man midfield where Lowe is sat deepest, doing the majority of the running. Murphy may be slow but he's still technically gifted so I'd sit him in the centre of the park where he can pick out passes to the wingers or play a through-ball to Dunn - who'd be in a more advanced role - or straight through to Rhodes should the opportunity arise. Set up like this Murphy should easily be able to see the game out, whereas Dunn could be replaced by Formica, Rochina, Pedersen or even Nuno Gomes. Vukcevic and Nunes are fit enough to patrol the flanks, especially with Henley and Olsson covering them, and we've got ready made replacements in Kazim-Richards, Marcus Olsson and, dare I say it, Bruno Ribeiro. I never expected N'Zonzi to stay but I thought the club were a little premature letting Petrovic go. He was never up to scratch in the Premier League but I always believed he could do a job for us in the more physical, less technical Championship. I'd rather have a player running around like a headless chicken, making a nuisance of himself, than a player who gives up the moment the opposing player as beaten him.[/p][/quote].. And lest we forget.. Don't we still have Bruno? Or am I missing a few events.. He certainly has. blueblooded

5:48pm Wed 5 Dec 12

Bazzer says...

Return of the Magnificent se7en wrote:
srvp28 wrote:
srvp28 wrote:
Return of the Magnificent se7en wrote:
blueblooded wrote:
Return of the Magnificent se7en wrote: Scot Dann had his best game for us aginst the toothless mouthbreathers. Defence is not as bad as eveyone makes out now that Bradley ordinary has gone to Mick bananaman Mcarthy, its the engineroom that has no engine in it. Centre midfield is shocking. Drop murphy and Etuhu and find us a Jermaine Jones, Joey Barton, batty, Robbie savage. Someone to drive the play into the opposition half. That makes it much easier to defend if your not in your own 18 yard box for 3/4 of the game.
agreed. Though I'd like to see Vuk and Etuhu have a go at partnering.
At the moment we seem a very left sided team, Pedersen, both olsons fabio nunes, not to mention this josh king lad so why did we sign him when down the right we have nothing? Admittedly I would like to see vuckevic given a go on the right or right centre but another reason we are easier to contend with is we only use the left. why have we cornered the market in left sided players, I mean before that we had Hoilett. CKR is really a forward who we play out wide and henley behind him isn't he left sided too, not to mention Lowe who is a centre mid. What we need is balance, not square pegs in round holes.
I agree that we're a very left sided team but Kazim-Richards is NOT a forward who we play out left, he's a right-winger who Steve Kean decided was a second striker. He's only been played out on the right in two or three games, that position is usually filled by Formica, a central attacking midfielder, Nunes, a left-winger, or Lowe, a central midfielder/makeshift right-back. Berg needs to stop making the same mistakes as Kean by playing the lads out of position. If we had our full compliment of players available for Friday I'd like to see us play 433 with two wingers whipping the ball in for Rhodes. My starting XI would be: Robinson, Henley, Dann, Givet, Martin Olsson, Lowe, Murphy, Dunn, Vukcevic, Rhodes, Nunes.
* right
Right on, but for me Murphy has been a major dissappointment and as french rover says we are playing too deep to combat his lack of pace which puts pressure on the defence, This in turn makes the hoofball merchants who only see hoof flick goal think we have a defensive problem when in fact we have a central midfield problem. So for me murphy can leave the club. We need a combative midfielder, one who puts in the leg work and drives play forward.
There is hope for you yet as you use the phrase "hoof, flick, goal". Better than "side pass, pitty patty, tap tap, do a trick, please the crowd and then lose possession in the final third".
[quote][p][bold]Return of the Magnificent se7en[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]srvp28[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]srvp28[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Return of the Magnificent se7en[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]blueblooded[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Return of the Magnificent se7en[/bold] wrote: Scot Dann had his best game for us aginst the toothless mouthbreathers. Defence is not as bad as eveyone makes out now that Bradley ordinary has gone to Mick bananaman Mcarthy, its the engineroom that has no engine in it. Centre midfield is shocking. Drop murphy and Etuhu and find us a Jermaine Jones, Joey Barton, batty, Robbie savage. Someone to drive the play into the opposition half. That makes it much easier to defend if your not in your own 18 yard box for 3/4 of the game.[/p][/quote]agreed. Though I'd like to see Vuk and Etuhu have a go at partnering.[/p][/quote]At the moment we seem a very left sided team, Pedersen, both olsons fabio nunes, not to mention this josh king lad so why did we sign him when down the right we have nothing? Admittedly I would like to see vuckevic given a go on the right or right centre but another reason we are easier to contend with is we only use the left. why have we cornered the market in left sided players, I mean before that we had Hoilett. CKR is really a forward who we play out wide and henley behind him isn't he left sided too, not to mention Lowe who is a centre mid. What we need is balance, not square pegs in round holes.[/p][/quote]I agree that we're a very left sided team but Kazim-Richards is NOT a forward who we play out left, he's a right-winger who Steve Kean decided was a second striker. He's only been played out on the right in two or three games, that position is usually filled by Formica, a central attacking midfielder, Nunes, a left-winger, or Lowe, a central midfielder/makeshift right-back. Berg needs to stop making the same mistakes as Kean by playing the lads out of position. If we had our full compliment of players available for Friday I'd like to see us play 433 with two wingers whipping the ball in for Rhodes. My starting XI would be: Robinson, Henley, Dann, Givet, Martin Olsson, Lowe, Murphy, Dunn, Vukcevic, Rhodes, Nunes.[/p][/quote]* right[/p][/quote]Right on, but for me Murphy has been a major dissappointment and as french rover says we are playing too deep to combat his lack of pace which puts pressure on the defence, This in turn makes the hoofball merchants who only see hoof flick goal think we have a defensive problem when in fact we have a central midfield problem. So for me murphy can leave the club. We need a combative midfielder, one who puts in the leg work and drives play forward.[/p][/quote]There is hope for you yet as you use the phrase "hoof, flick, goal". Better than "side pass, pitty patty, tap tap, do a trick, please the crowd and then lose possession in the final third". Bazzer

6:11pm Wed 5 Dec 12

French Rover says...

Bazzer wrote:
French Rover wrote:
Midfield is the main issue for me that is causing us two major problems in every match and costing us points: 1) They constantly put pressure on our defense by not keeping/winning/usin g the ball. 2) They are starving Rhodes and others of goal scoring opportunities by not linking up and/or starting the attacks or even by scoring some goals themselves. Unbelievably our second highest goalscorer is Nuno Gomez with 4 goals - and he hasn't played for three months almost. So not enough goals from the team in general - a good job we have JR but he cant be expected to carry the side all season. So despite a lot of bad press for the defense - it is probably the best performing part of the team with only a handful of teams in this league actually conceding less goals so far this season.
So not only do you betray England by clearing off to France, you betray your native tongue with Americanised spelling. "Defense" indeed! You will be using "offense" for "attack" next.
I find smelly offensive...he should be taken off the sidewalk and put in the trunk of an auto which is fully gassed up and dropped down an elevator shaft so he lands on his fan y...
[quote][p][bold]Bazzer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]French Rover[/bold] wrote: Midfield is the main issue for me that is causing us two major problems in every match and costing us points: 1) They constantly put pressure on our defense by not keeping/winning/usin g the ball. 2) They are starving Rhodes and others of goal scoring opportunities by not linking up and/or starting the attacks or even by scoring some goals themselves. Unbelievably our second highest goalscorer is Nuno Gomez with 4 goals - and he hasn't played for three months almost. So not enough goals from the team in general - a good job we have JR but he cant be expected to carry the side all season. So despite a lot of bad press for the defense - it is probably the best performing part of the team with only a handful of teams in this league actually conceding less goals so far this season.[/p][/quote]So not only do you betray England by clearing off to France, you betray your native tongue with Americanised spelling. "Defense" indeed! You will be using "offense" for "attack" next.[/p][/quote]I find smelly offensive...he should be taken off the sidewalk and put in the trunk of an auto which is fully gassed up and dropped down an elevator shaft so he lands on his fan y... French Rover

6:24pm Wed 5 Dec 12

Babbar Divino says...

"“In the next couple of weeks, however we do it, we’re going to have to make sure we get as many points on the board as we can and start moving up the table.”"

Good job he earns his money playing football
"“In the next couple of weeks, however we do it, we’re going to have to make sure we get as many points on the board as we can and start moving up the table.”" Good job he earns his money playing football Babbar Divino

6:54pm Wed 5 Dec 12

Bazzer says...

French Rover wrote:
Bazzer wrote:
French Rover wrote: Midfield is the main issue for me that is causing us two major problems in every match and costing us points: 1) They constantly put pressure on our defense by not keeping/winning/usin g the ball. 2) They are starving Rhodes and others of goal scoring opportunities by not linking up and/or starting the attacks or even by scoring some goals themselves. Unbelievably our second highest goalscorer is Nuno Gomez with 4 goals - and he hasn't played for three months almost. So not enough goals from the team in general - a good job we have JR but he cant be expected to carry the side all season. So despite a lot of bad press for the defense - it is probably the best performing part of the team with only a handful of teams in this league actually conceding less goals so far this season.
So not only do you betray England by clearing off to France, you betray your native tongue with Americanised spelling. "Defense" indeed! You will be using "offense" for "attack" next.
I find smelly offensive...he should be taken off the sidewalk and put in the trunk of an auto which is fully gassed up and dropped down an elevator shaft so he lands on his fan y...
Well said! Offense is the best form of defense!
[quote][p][bold]French Rover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bazzer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]French Rover[/bold] wrote: Midfield is the main issue for me that is causing us two major problems in every match and costing us points: 1) They constantly put pressure on our defense by not keeping/winning/usin g the ball. 2) They are starving Rhodes and others of goal scoring opportunities by not linking up and/or starting the attacks or even by scoring some goals themselves. Unbelievably our second highest goalscorer is Nuno Gomez with 4 goals - and he hasn't played for three months almost. So not enough goals from the team in general - a good job we have JR but he cant be expected to carry the side all season. So despite a lot of bad press for the defense - it is probably the best performing part of the team with only a handful of teams in this league actually conceding less goals so far this season.[/p][/quote]So not only do you betray England by clearing off to France, you betray your native tongue with Americanised spelling. "Defense" indeed! You will be using "offense" for "attack" next.[/p][/quote]I find smelly offensive...he should be taken off the sidewalk and put in the trunk of an auto which is fully gassed up and dropped down an elevator shaft so he lands on his fan y...[/p][/quote]Well said! Offense is the best form of defense! Bazzer

7:15pm Wed 5 Dec 12

bburnrover says...

Well its blatantly obvious to a blind man with a limp that Rovers just have not got a good enough team to be consistent in tihs league.I just hope that Henning has enough about him to understand where our defeciencies lie and and ensure that the Venkeys are aware of the players he needs.Shebby Singh should be excluded from any negotiations as he seems to take his Global brief to Portugal and nowhere else we need good British players.
Well its blatantly obvious to a blind man with a limp that Rovers just have not got a good enough team to be consistent in tihs league.I just hope that Henning has enough about him to understand where our defeciencies lie and and ensure that the Venkeys are aware of the players he needs.Shebby Singh should be excluded from any negotiations as he seems to take his Global brief to Portugal and nowhere else we need good British players. bburnrover

7:15pm Wed 5 Dec 12

Return of the Magnificent se7en says...

srvp28 wrote:
Return of the Magnificent se7en wrote:
srvp28 wrote:
srvp28 wrote:
Return of the Magnificent se7en wrote:
blueblooded wrote:
Return of the Magnificent se7en wrote:
Scot Dann had his best game for us aginst the toothless mouthbreathers. Defence is not as bad as eveyone makes out now that Bradley ordinary has gone to Mick bananaman Mcarthy, its the engineroom that has no engine in it. Centre midfield is shocking. Drop murphy and Etuhu and find us a Jermaine Jones, Joey Barton, batty, Robbie savage. Someone to drive the play into the opposition half. That makes it much easier to defend if your not in your own 18 yard box for 3/4 of the game.
agreed.

Though I'd like to see Vuk and Etuhu have a go at partnering.
At the moment we seem a very left sided team, Pedersen, both olsons fabio nunes, not to mention this josh king lad so why did we sign him when down the right we have nothing? Admittedly I would like to see vuckevic given a go on the right or right centre but another reason we are easier to contend with is we only use the left. why have we cornered the market in left sided players, I mean before that we had Hoilett. CKR is really a forward who we play out wide and henley behind him isn't he left sided too, not to mention Lowe who is a centre mid. What we need is balance, not square pegs in round holes.
I agree that we're a very left sided team but Kazim-Richards is NOT a forward who we play out left, he's a right-winger who Steve Kean decided was a second striker. He's only been played out on the right in two or three games, that position is usually filled by Formica, a central attacking midfielder, Nunes, a left-winger, or Lowe, a central midfielder/makeshift right-back. Berg needs to stop making the same mistakes as Kean by playing the lads out of position.

If we had our full compliment of players available for Friday I'd like to see us play 433 with two wingers whipping the ball in for Rhodes. My starting XI would be: Robinson, Henley, Dann, Givet, Martin Olsson, Lowe, Murphy, Dunn, Vukcevic, Rhodes, Nunes.
* right
Right on, but for me Murphy has been a major dissappointment and as french rover says we are playing too deep to combat his lack of pace which puts pressure on the defence, This in turn makes the hoofball merchants who only see hoof flick goal think we have a defensive problem when in fact we have a central midfield problem. So for me murphy can leave the club. We need a combative midfielder, one who puts in the leg work and drives play forward.
I fully agree that we need a combative midfielder, I was only selecting players that we have available to us now though. I know Murphy has been disappointing but so has Etuhu. We haven't seen enough of Jorge for me to include him in my team so I've gone for a three man midfield where Lowe is sat deepest, doing the majority of the running. Murphy may be slow but he's still technically gifted so I'd sit him in the centre of the park where he can pick out passes to the wingers or play a through-ball to Dunn - who'd be in a more advanced role - or straight through to Rhodes should the opportunity arise. Set up like this Murphy should easily be able to see the game out, whereas Dunn could be replaced by Formica, Rochina, Pedersen or even Nuno Gomes.

Vukcevic and Nunes are fit enough to patrol the flanks, especially with Henley and Olsson covering them, and we've got ready made replacements in Kazim-Richards, Marcus Olsson and, dare I say it, Bruno Ribeiro. I never expected N'Zonzi to stay but I thought the club were a little premature letting Petrovic go. He was never up to scratch in the Premier League but I always believed he could do a job for us in the more physical, less technical Championship. I'd rather have a player running around like a headless chicken, making a nuisance of himself, than a player who gives up the moment the opposing player as beaten him.
I too was dissappointed at both petrovic and Nzonzi being able to leave at the same time, petrovic could have done a job, now we need to go out and buy another of the same ability.
[quote][p][bold]srvp28[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Return of the Magnificent se7en[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]srvp28[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]srvp28[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Return of the Magnificent se7en[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]blueblooded[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Return of the Magnificent se7en[/bold] wrote: Scot Dann had his best game for us aginst the toothless mouthbreathers. Defence is not as bad as eveyone makes out now that Bradley ordinary has gone to Mick bananaman Mcarthy, its the engineroom that has no engine in it. Centre midfield is shocking. Drop murphy and Etuhu and find us a Jermaine Jones, Joey Barton, batty, Robbie savage. Someone to drive the play into the opposition half. That makes it much easier to defend if your not in your own 18 yard box for 3/4 of the game.[/p][/quote]agreed. Though I'd like to see Vuk and Etuhu have a go at partnering.[/p][/quote]At the moment we seem a very left sided team, Pedersen, both olsons fabio nunes, not to mention this josh king lad so why did we sign him when down the right we have nothing? Admittedly I would like to see vuckevic given a go on the right or right centre but another reason we are easier to contend with is we only use the left. why have we cornered the market in left sided players, I mean before that we had Hoilett. CKR is really a forward who we play out wide and henley behind him isn't he left sided too, not to mention Lowe who is a centre mid. What we need is balance, not square pegs in round holes.[/p][/quote]I agree that we're a very left sided team but Kazim-Richards is NOT a forward who we play out left, he's a right-winger who Steve Kean decided was a second striker. He's only been played out on the right in two or three games, that position is usually filled by Formica, a central attacking midfielder, Nunes, a left-winger, or Lowe, a central midfielder/makeshift right-back. Berg needs to stop making the same mistakes as Kean by playing the lads out of position. If we had our full compliment of players available for Friday I'd like to see us play 433 with two wingers whipping the ball in for Rhodes. My starting XI would be: Robinson, Henley, Dann, Givet, Martin Olsson, Lowe, Murphy, Dunn, Vukcevic, Rhodes, Nunes.[/p][/quote]* right[/p][/quote]Right on, but for me Murphy has been a major dissappointment and as french rover says we are playing too deep to combat his lack of pace which puts pressure on the defence, This in turn makes the hoofball merchants who only see hoof flick goal think we have a defensive problem when in fact we have a central midfield problem. So for me murphy can leave the club. We need a combative midfielder, one who puts in the leg work and drives play forward.[/p][/quote]I fully agree that we need a combative midfielder, I was only selecting players that we have available to us now though. I know Murphy has been disappointing but so has Etuhu. We haven't seen enough of Jorge for me to include him in my team so I've gone for a three man midfield where Lowe is sat deepest, doing the majority of the running. Murphy may be slow but he's still technically gifted so I'd sit him in the centre of the park where he can pick out passes to the wingers or play a through-ball to Dunn - who'd be in a more advanced role - or straight through to Rhodes should the opportunity arise. Set up like this Murphy should easily be able to see the game out, whereas Dunn could be replaced by Formica, Rochina, Pedersen or even Nuno Gomes. Vukcevic and Nunes are fit enough to patrol the flanks, especially with Henley and Olsson covering them, and we've got ready made replacements in Kazim-Richards, Marcus Olsson and, dare I say it, Bruno Ribeiro. I never expected N'Zonzi to stay but I thought the club were a little premature letting Petrovic go. He was never up to scratch in the Premier League but I always believed he could do a job for us in the more physical, less technical Championship. I'd rather have a player running around like a headless chicken, making a nuisance of himself, than a player who gives up the moment the opposing player as beaten him.[/p][/quote]I too was dissappointed at both petrovic and Nzonzi being able to leave at the same time, petrovic could have done a job, now we need to go out and buy another of the same ability. Return of the Magnificent se7en

7:18pm Wed 5 Dec 12

Return of the Magnificent se7en says...

Bazzer wrote:
Return of the Magnificent se7en wrote:
srvp28 wrote:
srvp28 wrote:
Return of the Magnificent se7en wrote:
blueblooded wrote:
Return of the Magnificent se7en wrote: Scot Dann had his best game for us aginst the toothless mouthbreathers. Defence is not as bad as eveyone makes out now that Bradley ordinary has gone to Mick bananaman Mcarthy, its the engineroom that has no engine in it. Centre midfield is shocking. Drop murphy and Etuhu and find us a Jermaine Jones, Joey Barton, batty, Robbie savage. Someone to drive the play into the opposition half. That makes it much easier to defend if your not in your own 18 yard box for 3/4 of the game.
agreed. Though I'd like to see Vuk and Etuhu have a go at partnering.
At the moment we seem a very left sided team, Pedersen, both olsons fabio nunes, not to mention this josh king lad so why did we sign him when down the right we have nothing? Admittedly I would like to see vuckevic given a go on the right or right centre but another reason we are easier to contend with is we only use the left. why have we cornered the market in left sided players, I mean before that we had Hoilett. CKR is really a forward who we play out wide and henley behind him isn't he left sided too, not to mention Lowe who is a centre mid. What we need is balance, not square pegs in round holes.
I agree that we're a very left sided team but Kazim-Richards is NOT a forward who we play out left, he's a right-winger who Steve Kean decided was a second striker. He's only been played out on the right in two or three games, that position is usually filled by Formica, a central attacking midfielder, Nunes, a left-winger, or Lowe, a central midfielder/makeshift right-back. Berg needs to stop making the same mistakes as Kean by playing the lads out of position. If we had our full compliment of players available for Friday I'd like to see us play 433 with two wingers whipping the ball in for Rhodes. My starting XI would be: Robinson, Henley, Dann, Givet, Martin Olsson, Lowe, Murphy, Dunn, Vukcevic, Rhodes, Nunes.
* right
Right on, but for me Murphy has been a major dissappointment and as french rover says we are playing too deep to combat his lack of pace which puts pressure on the defence, This in turn makes the hoofball merchants who only see hoof flick goal think we have a defensive problem when in fact we have a central midfield problem. So for me murphy can leave the club. We need a combative midfielder, one who puts in the leg work and drives play forward.
There is hope for you yet as you use the phrase "hoof, flick, goal". Better than "side pass, pitty patty, tap tap, do a trick, please the crowd and then lose possession in the final third".
Admittedly you have to mix it up so then you get hoof tippy tappy flick hoof flick tippy tappy goal, then eveyone would be happy.
[quote][p][bold]Bazzer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Return of the Magnificent se7en[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]srvp28[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]srvp28[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Return of the Magnificent se7en[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]blueblooded[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Return of the Magnificent se7en[/bold] wrote: Scot Dann had his best game for us aginst the toothless mouthbreathers. Defence is not as bad as eveyone makes out now that Bradley ordinary has gone to Mick bananaman Mcarthy, its the engineroom that has no engine in it. Centre midfield is shocking. Drop murphy and Etuhu and find us a Jermaine Jones, Joey Barton, batty, Robbie savage. Someone to drive the play into the opposition half. That makes it much easier to defend if your not in your own 18 yard box for 3/4 of the game.[/p][/quote]agreed. Though I'd like to see Vuk and Etuhu have a go at partnering.[/p][/quote]At the moment we seem a very left sided team, Pedersen, both olsons fabio nunes, not to mention this josh king lad so why did we sign him when down the right we have nothing? Admittedly I would like to see vuckevic given a go on the right or right centre but another reason we are easier to contend with is we only use the left. why have we cornered the market in left sided players, I mean before that we had Hoilett. CKR is really a forward who we play out wide and henley behind him isn't he left sided too, not to mention Lowe who is a centre mid. What we need is balance, not square pegs in round holes.[/p][/quote]I agree that we're a very left sided team but Kazim-Richards is NOT a forward who we play out left, he's a right-winger who Steve Kean decided was a second striker. He's only been played out on the right in two or three games, that position is usually filled by Formica, a central attacking midfielder, Nunes, a left-winger, or Lowe, a central midfielder/makeshift right-back. Berg needs to stop making the same mistakes as Kean by playing the lads out of position. If we had our full compliment of players available for Friday I'd like to see us play 433 with two wingers whipping the ball in for Rhodes. My starting XI would be: Robinson, Henley, Dann, Givet, Martin Olsson, Lowe, Murphy, Dunn, Vukcevic, Rhodes, Nunes.[/p][/quote]* right[/p][/quote]Right on, but for me Murphy has been a major dissappointment and as french rover says we are playing too deep to combat his lack of pace which puts pressure on the defence, This in turn makes the hoofball merchants who only see hoof flick goal think we have a defensive problem when in fact we have a central midfield problem. So for me murphy can leave the club. We need a combative midfielder, one who puts in the leg work and drives play forward.[/p][/quote]There is hope for you yet as you use the phrase "hoof, flick, goal". Better than "side pass, pitty patty, tap tap, do a trick, please the crowd and then lose possession in the final third".[/p][/quote]Admittedly you have to mix it up so then you get hoof tippy tappy flick hoof flick tippy tappy goal, then eveyone would be happy. Return of the Magnificent se7en

7:50pm Wed 5 Dec 12

MatthewCA says...

Take care about bellamy and his free kick. A good defence show is needed to win the game.

Is Dunn and Gomes are ready?

If they are ready to start, Kazim and King can play in both wing , with Rohdes and Gomes upfront.

So Murphy and Dunn will control the center with our hero Givit back in center defence with Dann, henley and Ollson.

Sub : Kean,Hanley,Ollson,P
edersen,Vikuciv,Form
ica,Rochina
Take care about bellamy and his free kick. A good defence show is needed to win the game. Is Dunn and Gomes are ready? If they are ready to start, Kazim and King can play in both wing , with Rohdes and Gomes upfront. So Murphy and Dunn will control the center with our hero Givit back in center defence with Dann, henley and Ollson. Sub : Kean,Hanley,Ollson,P edersen,Vikuciv,Form ica,Rochina MatthewCA

7:59pm Wed 5 Dec 12

Nuttall Street says...

This is an interesting discussion of what comes first in the list of weaknesses, the defence or midfield, and of the problems that HB has to overcome before there is an upturn in the clubs fortunes. However, this is all academic as the overarching feature of Blackburn Rovers is that it is under the control of a bunch of Venkys who are opinionated, but don't know a thing about football. No club can bear such a disadvantage. That is why attendances have not revived after the boycott and that is why Rovers will continue to sink down through the divisions. That is for certain. What is Robert Coar doing about this? Chairman presiding over a disaster. He must know it is hopeless while the Venkys own the club. Why does he not do the decent thing and resign?
This is an interesting discussion of what comes first in the list of weaknesses, the defence or midfield, and of the problems that HB has to overcome before there is an upturn in the clubs fortunes. However, this is all academic as the overarching feature of Blackburn Rovers is that it is under the control of a bunch of Venkys who are opinionated, but don't know a thing about football. No club can bear such a disadvantage. That is why attendances have not revived after the boycott and that is why Rovers will continue to sink down through the divisions. That is for certain. What is Robert Coar doing about this? Chairman presiding over a disaster. He must know it is hopeless while the Venkys own the club. Why does he not do the decent thing and resign? Nuttall Street

7:59pm Wed 5 Dec 12

Bazzer says...

Return of the Magnificent se7en wrote:
Bazzer wrote:
Return of the Magnificent se7en wrote:
srvp28 wrote:
srvp28 wrote:
Return of the Magnificent se7en wrote:
blueblooded wrote:
Return of the Magnificent se7en wrote: Scot Dann had his best game for us aginst the toothless mouthbreathers. Defence is not as bad as eveyone makes out now that Bradley ordinary has gone to Mick bananaman Mcarthy, its the engineroom that has no engine in it. Centre midfield is shocking. Drop murphy and Etuhu and find us a Jermaine Jones, Joey Barton, batty, Robbie savage. Someone to drive the play into the opposition half. That makes it much easier to defend if your not in your own 18 yard box for 3/4 of the game.
agreed. Though I'd like to see Vuk and Etuhu have a go at partnering.
At the moment we seem a very left sided team, Pedersen, both olsons fabio nunes, not to mention this josh king lad so why did we sign him when down the right we have nothing? Admittedly I would like to see vuckevic given a go on the right or right centre but another reason we are easier to contend with is we only use the left. why have we cornered the market in left sided players, I mean before that we had Hoilett. CKR is really a forward who we play out wide and henley behind him isn't he left sided too, not to mention Lowe who is a centre mid. What we need is balance, not square pegs in round holes.
I agree that we're a very left sided team but Kazim-Richards is NOT a forward who we play out left, he's a right-winger who Steve Kean decided was a second striker. He's only been played out on the right in two or three games, that position is usually filled by Formica, a central attacking midfielder, Nunes, a left-winger, or Lowe, a central midfielder/makeshift right-back. Berg needs to stop making the same mistakes as Kean by playing the lads out of position. If we had our full compliment of players available for Friday I'd like to see us play 433 with two wingers whipping the ball in for Rhodes. My starting XI would be: Robinson, Henley, Dann, Givet, Martin Olsson, Lowe, Murphy, Dunn, Vukcevic, Rhodes, Nunes.
* right
Right on, but for me Murphy has been a major dissappointment and as french rover says we are playing too deep to combat his lack of pace which puts pressure on the defence, This in turn makes the hoofball merchants who only see hoof flick goal think we have a defensive problem when in fact we have a central midfield problem. So for me murphy can leave the club. We need a combative midfielder, one who puts in the leg work and drives play forward.
There is hope for you yet as you use the phrase "hoof, flick, goal". Better than "side pass, pitty patty, tap tap, do a trick, please the crowd and then lose possession in the final third".
Admittedly you have to mix it up so then you get hoof tippy tappy flick hoof flick tippy tappy goal, then eveyone would be happy.
Did you take that sequence of play from the 7-3 annihilation of Eintracht Frankfurt by Real Madrid in 1960? When that fat bugger Puskas rounded off a 5 man move?
[quote][p][bold]Return of the Magnificent se7en[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bazzer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Return of the Magnificent se7en[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]srvp28[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]srvp28[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Return of the Magnificent se7en[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]blueblooded[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Return of the Magnificent se7en[/bold] wrote: Scot Dann had his best game for us aginst the toothless mouthbreathers. Defence is not as bad as eveyone makes out now that Bradley ordinary has gone to Mick bananaman Mcarthy, its the engineroom that has no engine in it. Centre midfield is shocking. Drop murphy and Etuhu and find us a Jermaine Jones, Joey Barton, batty, Robbie savage. Someone to drive the play into the opposition half. That makes it much easier to defend if your not in your own 18 yard box for 3/4 of the game.[/p][/quote]agreed. Though I'd like to see Vuk and Etuhu have a go at partnering.[/p][/quote]At the moment we seem a very left sided team, Pedersen, both olsons fabio nunes, not to mention this josh king lad so why did we sign him when down the right we have nothing? Admittedly I would like to see vuckevic given a go on the right or right centre but another reason we are easier to contend with is we only use the left. why have we cornered the market in left sided players, I mean before that we had Hoilett. CKR is really a forward who we play out wide and henley behind him isn't he left sided too, not to mention Lowe who is a centre mid. What we need is balance, not square pegs in round holes.[/p][/quote]I agree that we're a very left sided team but Kazim-Richards is NOT a forward who we play out left, he's a right-winger who Steve Kean decided was a second striker. He's only been played out on the right in two or three games, that position is usually filled by Formica, a central attacking midfielder, Nunes, a left-winger, or Lowe, a central midfielder/makeshift right-back. Berg needs to stop making the same mistakes as Kean by playing the lads out of position. If we had our full compliment of players available for Friday I'd like to see us play 433 with two wingers whipping the ball in for Rhodes. My starting XI would be: Robinson, Henley, Dann, Givet, Martin Olsson, Lowe, Murphy, Dunn, Vukcevic, Rhodes, Nunes.[/p][/quote]* right[/p][/quote]Right on, but for me Murphy has been a major dissappointment and as french rover says we are playing too deep to combat his lack of pace which puts pressure on the defence, This in turn makes the hoofball merchants who only see hoof flick goal think we have a defensive problem when in fact we have a central midfield problem. So for me murphy can leave the club. We need a combative midfielder, one who puts in the leg work and drives play forward.[/p][/quote]There is hope for you yet as you use the phrase "hoof, flick, goal". Better than "side pass, pitty patty, tap tap, do a trick, please the crowd and then lose possession in the final third".[/p][/quote]Admittedly you have to mix it up so then you get hoof tippy tappy flick hoof flick tippy tappy goal, then eveyone would be happy.[/p][/quote]Did you take that sequence of play from the 7-3 annihilation of Eintracht Frankfurt by Real Madrid in 1960? When that fat bugger Puskas rounded off a 5 man move? Bazzer

8:29pm Wed 5 Dec 12

Return of the Magnificent se7en says...

Bazzer wrote:
Return of the Magnificent se7en wrote:
Bazzer wrote:
Return of the Magnificent se7en wrote:
srvp28 wrote:
srvp28 wrote:
Return of the Magnificent se7en wrote:
blueblooded wrote:
Return of the Magnificent se7en wrote: Scot Dann had his best game for us aginst the toothless mouthbreathers. Defence is not as bad as eveyone makes out now that Bradley ordinary has gone to Mick bananaman Mcarthy, its the engineroom that has no engine in it. Centre midfield is shocking. Drop murphy and Etuhu and find us a Jermaine Jones, Joey Barton, batty, Robbie savage. Someone to drive the play into the opposition half. That makes it much easier to defend if your not in your own 18 yard box for 3/4 of the game.
agreed. Though I'd like to see Vuk and Etuhu have a go at partnering.
At the moment we seem a very left sided team, Pedersen, both olsons fabio nunes, not to mention this josh king lad so why did we sign him when down the right we have nothing? Admittedly I would like to see vuckevic given a go on the right or right centre but another reason we are easier to contend with is we only use the left. why have we cornered the market in left sided players, I mean before that we had Hoilett. CKR is really a forward who we play out wide and henley behind him isn't he left sided too, not to mention Lowe who is a centre mid. What we need is balance, not square pegs in round holes.
I agree that we're a very left sided team but Kazim-Richards is NOT a forward who we play out left, he's a right-winger who Steve Kean decided was a second striker. He's only been played out on the right in two or three games, that position is usually filled by Formica, a central attacking midfielder, Nunes, a left-winger, or Lowe, a central midfielder/makeshift right-back. Berg needs to stop making the same mistakes as Kean by playing the lads out of position. If we had our full compliment of players available for Friday I'd like to see us play 433 with two wingers whipping the ball in for Rhodes. My starting XI would be: Robinson, Henley, Dann, Givet, Martin Olsson, Lowe, Murphy, Dunn, Vukcevic, Rhodes, Nunes.
* right
Right on, but for me Murphy has been a major dissappointment and as french rover says we are playing too deep to combat his lack of pace which puts pressure on the defence, This in turn makes the hoofball merchants who only see hoof flick goal think we have a defensive problem when in fact we have a central midfield problem. So for me murphy can leave the club. We need a combative midfielder, one who puts in the leg work and drives play forward.
There is hope for you yet as you use the phrase "hoof, flick, goal". Better than "side pass, pitty patty, tap tap, do a trick, please the crowd and then lose possession in the final third".
Admittedly you have to mix it up so then you get hoof tippy tappy flick hoof flick tippy tappy goal, then eveyone would be happy.
Did you take that sequence of play from the 7-3 annihilation of Eintracht Frankfurt by Real Madrid in 1960? When that fat bugger Puskas rounded off a 5 man move?
No i took it straight from melchester rovers versus Parkington city as I know you are a fan. I missed out the nnnngh and the unnnnf so you might have not picked up on the falling defenders.
[quote][p][bold]Bazzer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Return of the Magnificent se7en[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bazzer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Return of the Magnificent se7en[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]srvp28[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]srvp28[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Return of the Magnificent se7en[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]blueblooded[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Return of the Magnificent se7en[/bold] wrote: Scot Dann had his best game for us aginst the toothless mouthbreathers. Defence is not as bad as eveyone makes out now that Bradley ordinary has gone to Mick bananaman Mcarthy, its the engineroom that has no engine in it. Centre midfield is shocking. Drop murphy and Etuhu and find us a Jermaine Jones, Joey Barton, batty, Robbie savage. Someone to drive the play into the opposition half. That makes it much easier to defend if your not in your own 18 yard box for 3/4 of the game.[/p][/quote]agreed. Though I'd like to see Vuk and Etuhu have a go at partnering.[/p][/quote]At the moment we seem a very left sided team, Pedersen, both olsons fabio nunes, not to mention this josh king lad so why did we sign him when down the right we have nothing? Admittedly I would like to see vuckevic given a go on the right or right centre but another reason we are easier to contend with is we only use the left. why have we cornered the market in left sided players, I mean before that we had Hoilett. CKR is really a forward who we play out wide and henley behind him isn't he left sided too, not to mention Lowe who is a centre mid. What we need is balance, not square pegs in round holes.[/p][/quote]I agree that we're a very left sided team but Kazim-Richards is NOT a forward who we play out left, he's a right-winger who Steve Kean decided was a second striker. He's only been played out on the right in two or three games, that position is usually filled by Formica, a central attacking midfielder, Nunes, a left-winger, or Lowe, a central midfielder/makeshift right-back. Berg needs to stop making the same mistakes as Kean by playing the lads out of position. If we had our full compliment of players available for Friday I'd like to see us play 433 with two wingers whipping the ball in for Rhodes. My starting XI would be: Robinson, Henley, Dann, Givet, Martin Olsson, Lowe, Murphy, Dunn, Vukcevic, Rhodes, Nunes.[/p][/quote]* right[/p][/quote]Right on, but for me Murphy has been a major dissappointment and as french rover says we are playing too deep to combat his lack of pace which puts pressure on the defence, This in turn makes the hoofball merchants who only see hoof flick goal think we have a defensive problem when in fact we have a central midfield problem. So for me murphy can leave the club. We need a combative midfielder, one who puts in the leg work and drives play forward.[/p][/quote]There is hope for you yet as you use the phrase "hoof, flick, goal". Better than "side pass, pitty patty, tap tap, do a trick, please the crowd and then lose possession in the final third".[/p][/quote]Admittedly you have to mix it up so then you get hoof tippy tappy flick hoof flick tippy tappy goal, then eveyone would be happy.[/p][/quote]Did you take that sequence of play from the 7-3 annihilation of Eintracht Frankfurt by Real Madrid in 1960? When that fat bugger Puskas rounded off a 5 man move?[/p][/quote]No i took it straight from melchester rovers versus Parkington city as I know you are a fan. I missed out the nnnngh and the unnnnf so you might have not picked up on the falling defenders. Return of the Magnificent se7en

8:36pm Wed 5 Dec 12

J.C - Rishton says...

Nuttall Street wrote:
This is an interesting discussion of what comes first in the list of weaknesses, the defence or midfield, and of the problems that HB has to overcome before there is an upturn in the clubs fortunes. However, this is all academic as the overarching feature of Blackburn Rovers is that it is under the control of a bunch of Venkys who are opinionated, but don't know a thing about football. No club can bear such a disadvantage. That is why attendances have not revived after the boycott and that is why Rovers will continue to sink down through the divisions. That is for certain. What is Robert Coar doing about this? Chairman presiding over a disaster. He must know it is hopeless while the Venkys own the club. Why does he not do the decent thing and resign?
Robert Coar resign ? - I totally agree, after all he dosent need the money (in effect he's probably slightly richer, certainly "cash richer" than Venkys, being married to Jack Walkers eldest daughter).

His continued silence through these last 2 years has been deafening and does not reflect well on him - he must be a huge let down to his father in law who loved our great club.

Shame on you Robert Coar - you are a disgrace to BRFC !
[quote][p][bold]Nuttall Street[/bold] wrote: This is an interesting discussion of what comes first in the list of weaknesses, the defence or midfield, and of the problems that HB has to overcome before there is an upturn in the clubs fortunes. However, this is all academic as the overarching feature of Blackburn Rovers is that it is under the control of a bunch of Venkys who are opinionated, but don't know a thing about football. No club can bear such a disadvantage. That is why attendances have not revived after the boycott and that is why Rovers will continue to sink down through the divisions. That is for certain. What is Robert Coar doing about this? Chairman presiding over a disaster. He must know it is hopeless while the Venkys own the club. Why does he not do the decent thing and resign?[/p][/quote]Robert Coar resign ? - I totally agree, after all he dosent need the money (in effect he's probably slightly richer, certainly "cash richer" than Venkys, being married to Jack Walkers eldest daughter). His continued silence through these last 2 years has been deafening and does not reflect well on him - he must be a huge let down to his father in law who loved our great club. Shame on you Robert Coar - you are a disgrace to BRFC ! J.C - Rishton

10:45pm Wed 5 Dec 12

dangerous dave says...

return of magnificent se7en - 'what a load of tripe' - you really cant see the wood from the tree's - basic facts are as an overall team we are not good enough and as a club not capable at the moment of fielding a consistent set of 11 players that can produce results - 'simples'
OUT WITH AGNEW SINGH BLACK HENDRY VENKYS (eys)!!
return of magnificent se7en - 'what a load of tripe' - you really cant see the wood from the tree's - basic facts are as an overall team we are not good enough and as a club not capable at the moment of fielding a consistent set of 11 players that can produce results - 'simples' OUT WITH AGNEW SINGH BLACK HENDRY VENKYS (eys)!! dangerous dave

11:50pm Wed 5 Dec 12

Return of the Magnificent se7en says...

dangerous dave wrote:
return of magnificent se7en - 'what a load of tripe' - you really cant see the wood from the tree's - basic facts are as an overall team we are not good enough and as a club not capable at the moment of fielding a consistent set of 11 players that can produce results - 'simples'
OUT WITH AGNEW SINGH BLACK HENDRY VENKYS (eys)!!
Lets talk about lagging
[quote][p][bold]dangerous dave[/bold] wrote: return of magnificent se7en - 'what a load of tripe' - you really cant see the wood from the tree's - basic facts are as an overall team we are not good enough and as a club not capable at the moment of fielding a consistent set of 11 players that can produce results - 'simples' OUT WITH AGNEW SINGH BLACK HENDRY VENKYS (eys)!![/p][/quote]Lets talk about lagging Return of the Magnificent se7en

12:08am Thu 6 Dec 12

Bazzer says...

Return of the Magnificent se7en wrote:
Bazzer wrote:
Return of the Magnificent se7en wrote:
Bazzer wrote:
Return of the Magnificent se7en wrote:
srvp28 wrote:
srvp28 wrote:
Return of the Magnificent se7en wrote:
blueblooded wrote:
Return of the Magnificent se7en wrote: Scot Dann had his best game for us aginst the toothless mouthbreathers. Defence is not as bad as eveyone makes out now that Bradley ordinary has gone to Mick bananaman Mcarthy, its the engineroom that has no engine in it. Centre midfield is shocking. Drop murphy and Etuhu and find us a Jermaine Jones, Joey Barton, batty, Robbie savage. Someone to drive the play into the opposition half. That makes it much easier to defend if your not in your own 18 yard box for 3/4 of the game.
agreed. Though I'd like to see Vuk and Etuhu have a go at partnering.
At the moment we seem a very left sided team, Pedersen, both olsons fabio nunes, not to mention this josh king lad so why did we sign him when down the right we have nothing? Admittedly I would like to see vuckevic given a go on the right or right centre but another reason we are easier to contend with is we only use the left. why have we cornered the market in left sided players, I mean before that we had Hoilett. CKR is really a forward who we play out wide and henley behind him isn't he left sided too, not to mention Lowe who is a centre mid. What we need is balance, not square pegs in round holes.
I agree that we're a very left sided team but Kazim-Richards is NOT a forward who we play out left, he's a right-winger who Steve Kean decided was a second striker. He's only been played out on the right in two or three games, that position is usually filled by Formica, a central attacking midfielder, Nunes, a left-winger, or Lowe, a central midfielder/makeshift right-back. Berg needs to stop making the same mistakes as Kean by playing the lads out of position. If we had our full compliment of players available for Friday I'd like to see us play 433 with two wingers whipping the ball in for Rhodes. My starting XI would be: Robinson, Henley, Dann, Givet, Martin Olsson, Lowe, Murphy, Dunn, Vukcevic, Rhodes, Nunes.
* right
Right on, but for me Murphy has been a major dissappointment and as french rover says we are playing too deep to combat his lack of pace which puts pressure on the defence, This in turn makes the hoofball merchants who only see hoof flick goal think we have a defensive problem when in fact we have a central midfield problem. So for me murphy can leave the club. We need a combative midfielder, one who puts in the leg work and drives play forward.
There is hope for you yet as you use the phrase "hoof, flick, goal". Better than "side pass, pitty patty, tap tap, do a trick, please the crowd and then lose possession in the final third".
Admittedly you have to mix it up so then you get hoof tippy tappy flick hoof flick tippy tappy goal, then eveyone would be happy.
Did you take that sequence of play from the 7-3 annihilation of Eintracht Frankfurt by Real Madrid in 1960? When that fat bugger Puskas rounded off a 5 man move?
No i took it straight from melchester rovers versus Parkington city as I know you are a fan. I missed out the nnnngh and the unnnnf so you might have not picked up on the falling defenders.
How stupid am I? Of course! Blackie Gray's 90th minute winner after Rovers were 2-0 down.
Your "Hoof, flick, goal" was easy. Simon Garners only goal of the game at Turf Moor in 1982. Fazackerley free kick on the halfway line in front of the Rovers' fans. Flicked on by Norman Bell and wallop! Garner on the turn! Goal! It is like it was yesterday! Up Rovers!
[quote][p][bold]Return of the Magnificent se7en[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bazzer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Return of the Magnificent se7en[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bazzer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Return of the Magnificent se7en[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]srvp28[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]srvp28[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Return of the Magnificent se7en[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]blueblooded[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Return of the Magnificent se7en[/bold] wrote: Scot Dann had his best game for us aginst the toothless mouthbreathers. Defence is not as bad as eveyone makes out now that Bradley ordinary has gone to Mick bananaman Mcarthy, its the engineroom that has no engine in it. Centre midfield is shocking. Drop murphy and Etuhu and find us a Jermaine Jones, Joey Barton, batty, Robbie savage. Someone to drive the play into the opposition half. That makes it much easier to defend if your not in your own 18 yard box for 3/4 of the game.[/p][/quote]agreed. Though I'd like to see Vuk and Etuhu have a go at partnering.[/p][/quote]At the moment we seem a very left sided team, Pedersen, both olsons fabio nunes, not to mention this josh king lad so why did we sign him when down the right we have nothing? Admittedly I would like to see vuckevic given a go on the right or right centre but another reason we are easier to contend with is we only use the left. why have we cornered the market in left sided players, I mean before that we had Hoilett. CKR is really a forward who we play out wide and henley behind him isn't he left sided too, not to mention Lowe who is a centre mid. What we need is balance, not square pegs in round holes.[/p][/quote]I agree that we're a very left sided team but Kazim-Richards is NOT a forward who we play out left, he's a right-winger who Steve Kean decided was a second striker. He's only been played out on the right in two or three games, that position is usually filled by Formica, a central attacking midfielder, Nunes, a left-winger, or Lowe, a central midfielder/makeshift right-back. Berg needs to stop making the same mistakes as Kean by playing the lads out of position. If we had our full compliment of players available for Friday I'd like to see us play 433 with two wingers whipping the ball in for Rhodes. My starting XI would be: Robinson, Henley, Dann, Givet, Martin Olsson, Lowe, Murphy, Dunn, Vukcevic, Rhodes, Nunes.[/p][/quote]* right[/p][/quote]Right on, but for me Murphy has been a major dissappointment and as french rover says we are playing too deep to combat his lack of pace which puts pressure on the defence, This in turn makes the hoofball merchants who only see hoof flick goal think we have a defensive problem when in fact we have a central midfield problem. So for me murphy can leave the club. We need a combative midfielder, one who puts in the leg work and drives play forward.[/p][/quote]There is hope for you yet as you use the phrase "hoof, flick, goal". Better than "side pass, pitty patty, tap tap, do a trick, please the crowd and then lose possession in the final third".[/p][/quote]Admittedly you have to mix it up so then you get hoof tippy tappy flick hoof flick tippy tappy goal, then eveyone would be happy.[/p][/quote]Did you take that sequence of play from the 7-3 annihilation of Eintracht Frankfurt by Real Madrid in 1960? When that fat bugger Puskas rounded off a 5 man move?[/p][/quote]No i took it straight from melchester rovers versus Parkington city as I know you are a fan. I missed out the nnnngh and the unnnnf so you might have not picked up on the falling defenders.[/p][/quote]How stupid am I? Of course! Blackie Gray's 90th minute winner after Rovers were 2-0 down. Your "Hoof, flick, goal" was easy. Simon Garners only goal of the game at Turf Moor in 1982. Fazackerley free kick on the halfway line in front of the Rovers' fans. Flicked on by Norman Bell and wallop! Garner on the turn! Goal! It is like it was yesterday! Up Rovers! Bazzer

12:37am Thu 6 Dec 12

eddie the eagle says...

No one can accuse French Rover of sitting on de fence!
No one can accuse French Rover of sitting on de fence! eddie the eagle

3:59am Thu 6 Dec 12

Roverthere says...

Friday will be a test of how far we have progressed or fallen. A win is required or I believe we can wipe this season off as far as challenging for promotion!
Although Berg is not everybody’s first choice, he deserves a chance with his own team. Friday will be a measure of how good or bad we are and what needs to b.e done!

Come on you blues!
Friday will be a test of how far we have progressed or fallen. A win is required or I believe we can wipe this season off as far as challenging for promotion! Although Berg is not everybody’s first choice, he deserves a chance with his own team. Friday will be a measure of how good or bad we are and what needs to b.e done! Come on you blues! Roverthere

7:48am Thu 6 Dec 12

rovers82 says...

defend on the pitch, not after the game
defend on the pitch, not after the game rovers82

7:54am Thu 6 Dec 12

A Darener says...

Bazzer wrote:
French Rover wrote:
Midfield is the main issue for me that is causing us two major problems in every match and costing us points: 1) They constantly put pressure on our defense by not keeping/winning/usin g the ball. 2) They are starving Rhodes and others of goal scoring opportunities by not linking up and/or starting the attacks or even by scoring some goals themselves. Unbelievably our second highest goalscorer is Nuno Gomez with 4 goals - and he hasn't played for three months almost. So not enough goals from the team in general - a good job we have JR but he cant be expected to carry the side all season. So despite a lot of bad press for the defense - it is probably the best performing part of the team with only a handful of teams in this league actually conceding less goals so far this season.
So not only do you betray England by clearing off to France, you betray your native tongue with Americanised spelling. "Defense" indeed! You will be using "offense" for "attack" next.
Or even worse " soccer"
[quote][p][bold]Bazzer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]French Rover[/bold] wrote: Midfield is the main issue for me that is causing us two major problems in every match and costing us points: 1) They constantly put pressure on our defense by not keeping/winning/usin g the ball. 2) They are starving Rhodes and others of goal scoring opportunities by not linking up and/or starting the attacks or even by scoring some goals themselves. Unbelievably our second highest goalscorer is Nuno Gomez with 4 goals - and he hasn't played for three months almost. So not enough goals from the team in general - a good job we have JR but he cant be expected to carry the side all season. So despite a lot of bad press for the defense - it is probably the best performing part of the team with only a handful of teams in this league actually conceding less goals so far this season.[/p][/quote]So not only do you betray England by clearing off to France, you betray your native tongue with Americanised spelling. "Defense" indeed! You will be using "offense" for "attack" next.[/p][/quote]Or even worse " soccer" A Darener

9:59am Thu 6 Dec 12

French Rover says...

eddie the eagle wrote:
No one can accuse French Rover of sitting on de fence!
y'all mean de fence in da Bordeaux hood Eddie? Just to carry on the american theme I don't suppose you could be a 'Bald Eagle'by any chance...? Though of course there is only ONE bald eagle associated with Rovers and that is of course the famous Jimmy Smith. He was a great character and might have done us some good if he hadn't buggered-off to Birmingham just as he was getting a decent side together. Best thing he evr did for the Rovers was signing Simon Garner as an apprentice from his old club Boston. What a brilliant days work that was......one simon garner - there's only one simon garner....hope there is only one bald 'Eagle' too...
[quote][p][bold]eddie the eagle[/bold] wrote: No one can accuse French Rover of sitting on de fence![/p][/quote]y'all mean de fence in da Bordeaux hood Eddie? Just to carry on the american theme I don't suppose you could be a 'Bald Eagle'by any chance...? Though of course there is only ONE bald eagle associated with Rovers and that is of course the famous Jimmy Smith. He was a great character and might have done us some good if he hadn't buggered-off to Birmingham just as he was getting a decent side together. Best thing he evr did for the Rovers was signing Simon Garner as an apprentice from his old club Boston. What a brilliant days work that was......one simon garner - there's only one simon garner....hope there is only one bald 'Eagle' too... French Rover

1:56pm Thu 6 Dec 12

jack01 says...

J.C - Rishton wrote:
Nuttall Street wrote:
This is an interesting discussion of what comes first in the list of weaknesses, the defence or midfield, and of the problems that HB has to overcome before there is an upturn in the clubs fortunes. However, this is all academic as the overarching feature of Blackburn Rovers is that it is under the control of a bunch of Venkys who are opinionated, but don't know a thing about football. No club can bear such a disadvantage. That is why attendances have not revived after the boycott and that is why Rovers will continue to sink down through the divisions. That is for certain. What is Robert Coar doing about this? Chairman presiding over a disaster. He must know it is hopeless while the Venkys own the club. Why does he not do the decent thing and resign?
Robert Coar resign ? - I totally agree, after all he dosent need the money (in effect he's probably slightly richer, certainly "cash richer" than Venkys, being married to Jack Walkers eldest daughter).

His continued silence through these last 2 years has been deafening and does not reflect well on him - he must be a huge let down to his father in law who loved our great club.

Shame on you Robert Coar - you are a disgrace to BRFC !
Fairly sure that Bob Coar isn't married to Jack Walker's daughter. I think that was Richard Matthewman before he resigned, and I don't think he had any power or influence at the club other than representing the family.

It is an odd situation as to why Coar remains involved with the board. He won't have any power or influence, he won't be drawing a wage, so why he hasn't followed the others and resigned on principle I don't know.

Quite what is 'in it for him' to remain involved with the current board which is surely undermining his reputation with the Rovers supporters is a mystery.
[quote][p][bold]J.C - Rishton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nuttall Street[/bold] wrote: This is an interesting discussion of what comes first in the list of weaknesses, the defence or midfield, and of the problems that HB has to overcome before there is an upturn in the clubs fortunes. However, this is all academic as the overarching feature of Blackburn Rovers is that it is under the control of a bunch of Venkys who are opinionated, but don't know a thing about football. No club can bear such a disadvantage. That is why attendances have not revived after the boycott and that is why Rovers will continue to sink down through the divisions. That is for certain. What is Robert Coar doing about this? Chairman presiding over a disaster. He must know it is hopeless while the Venkys own the club. Why does he not do the decent thing and resign?[/p][/quote]Robert Coar resign ? - I totally agree, after all he dosent need the money (in effect he's probably slightly richer, certainly "cash richer" than Venkys, being married to Jack Walkers eldest daughter). His continued silence through these last 2 years has been deafening and does not reflect well on him - he must be a huge let down to his father in law who loved our great club. Shame on you Robert Coar - you are a disgrace to BRFC ![/p][/quote]Fairly sure that Bob Coar isn't married to Jack Walker's daughter. I think that was Richard Matthewman before he resigned, and I don't think he had any power or influence at the club other than representing the family. It is an odd situation as to why Coar remains involved with the board. He won't have any power or influence, he won't be drawing a wage, so why he hasn't followed the others and resigned on principle I don't know. Quite what is 'in it for him' to remain involved with the current board which is surely undermining his reputation with the Rovers supporters is a mystery. jack01

2:19pm Thu 6 Dec 12

penrithrover says...

I think you will find anyone WHO KNOWS BOB COAR , will acknowledge Coar was always a BURNLEY FAN ,AND SUPPORTER HE TRIED TO GET ON THE BOARD AT BURNLEY 20 PLUS YEARS AGO BUT FAILED.

BOB COAR ,A ROVERS BOARD MEMBER HAS NO/ NO ALLEGIANCE NEVER HAS TO ROVERS HE IS A RICH DINGLE ,LOOKING FOR OPPORTUNITIES.
I think you will find anyone WHO KNOWS BOB COAR , will acknowledge Coar was always a BURNLEY FAN ,AND SUPPORTER HE TRIED TO GET ON THE BOARD AT BURNLEY 20 PLUS YEARS AGO BUT FAILED. BOB COAR ,A ROVERS BOARD MEMBER HAS NO/ NO ALLEGIANCE NEVER HAS TO ROVERS HE IS A RICH DINGLE ,LOOKING FOR OPPORTUNITIES. penrithrover

3:02pm Thu 6 Dec 12

penrithrover says...

penrithrover wrote:
I think you will find anyone WHO KNOWS BOB COAR , will acknowledge Coar was always a BURNLEY FAN ,AND SUPPORTER HE TRIED TO GET ON THE BOARD AT BURNLEY 20 PLUS YEARS AGO BUT FAILED.

BOB COAR ,A ROVERS BOARD MEMBER HAS NO/ NO ALLEGIANCE NEVER HAS TO ROVERS HE IS A RICH DINGLE ,LOOKING FOR OPPORTUNITIES.
ROBERT COAR. !!
NO HE NEVER MARRIED INTO ANY OF JACK WALKERS FAMILY ,JACK HAD 3 SONS AND 2 DAUGHTERS , BUT COAR WAS NEVER A FAMILY MEMBER , APPARENTLY HE FIRST MET THEM WHEN HE WAS A OFFSHORE TAX ADVISOR. .

BUT MAKE NO MISTAKE COAR PULLS STRINGS, MAYBE NOT ALL OF THEM , BUT A LOT OF THEM ,HE PULLS MAJOR STRINGS AT ROVERS , COAR WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR GIVING HENDRY THE HIGHLY PAID JOB AS DEFENSIVE COACH AT ROVERS TO PAY BACK HIS DEBTS TO SOME OF COARS COLLEAGUES SOME SENIOR ROVERS PEOPLE.

ROBERT COAR IS A MAN WHO SPENT ALL HIS YOUTH AND ALL HIS .TWENTIES/THIRTIES/ FOLLOWING BURNLEY , COAR IS A WELL KNOWN BURNLEY FAN ,MOST FOLK KNOW THAT.
I SUPPOSE IT IS STRANGE THE TYPES OF PEOPLE WE NOW HAVE THAT RUN OUR TOWN FOOTBALL TEAM.
[quote][p][bold]penrithrover[/bold] wrote: I think you will find anyone WHO KNOWS BOB COAR , will acknowledge Coar was always a BURNLEY FAN ,AND SUPPORTER HE TRIED TO GET ON THE BOARD AT BURNLEY 20 PLUS YEARS AGO BUT FAILED. BOB COAR ,A ROVERS BOARD MEMBER HAS NO/ NO ALLEGIANCE NEVER HAS TO ROVERS HE IS A RICH DINGLE ,LOOKING FOR OPPORTUNITIES.[/p][/quote]ROBERT COAR. !! NO HE NEVER MARRIED INTO ANY OF JACK WALKERS FAMILY ,JACK HAD 3 SONS AND 2 DAUGHTERS , BUT COAR WAS NEVER A FAMILY MEMBER , APPARENTLY HE FIRST MET THEM WHEN HE WAS A OFFSHORE TAX ADVISOR. . BUT MAKE NO MISTAKE COAR PULLS STRINGS, MAYBE NOT ALL OF THEM , BUT A LOT OF THEM ,HE PULLS MAJOR STRINGS AT ROVERS , COAR WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR GIVING HENDRY THE HIGHLY PAID JOB AS DEFENSIVE COACH AT ROVERS TO PAY BACK HIS DEBTS TO SOME OF COARS COLLEAGUES SOME SENIOR ROVERS PEOPLE. ROBERT COAR IS A MAN WHO SPENT ALL HIS YOUTH AND ALL HIS .TWENTIES/THIRTIES/ FOLLOWING BURNLEY , COAR IS A WELL KNOWN BURNLEY FAN ,MOST FOLK KNOW THAT. I SUPPOSE IT IS STRANGE THE TYPES OF PEOPLE WE NOW HAVE THAT RUN OUR TOWN FOOTBALL TEAM. penrithrover

3:26pm Thu 6 Dec 12

Dan11 says...

This lumbering peice of **** still talking. His awful defending is in part the reason why we are playing Chumpionship football this season. He should be busting a gut to put in faultless performances every game from now on, to make it up to the fans.

What a waste of money.
This lumbering peice of **** still talking. His awful defending is in part the reason why we are playing Chumpionship football this season. He should be busting a gut to put in faultless performances every game from now on, to make it up to the fans. What a waste of money. Dan11

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