Berg disappointed with pain of defeat

First published in Sport Lancashire Telegraph: Photograph of the Author by , Sports Editor

ROVERS boss Henning Berg will be hoping Sunday’s East Lancashire derby heralds a change in fortune for his side after they suffered back to back defeats.

Berg’s men were beaten 2-1 by Bolton Wanderers at Ewood Park last night leaving the new boss still searching for his first home win in charge.

And he will hope the tasty prospect of a trip to Turf Moor will earn a victory to put his side back among the promotion contenders.

Rovers were outplayed for much of the contest against the Trotters with an early goal from Kevin Davies and a second on the hour from Chung Yong Lee putting the game beyond doubt despite Jordan Rhodes’ late intervention.

Berg was naturally disappointed and said: "To start the game like we did was very surprising.

"We gave them too much space.

"It's nowhere near where we want to be."

But there were words of comfort for Rovers from Bolton boss Dougie Freedman.

“Fair play to Blackburn who kept on going. They tested us in the last 15 minutes,” he said.

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8:10am Thu 29 Nov 12

French Rover says...

Fair play - but no points....

I will gladly settle for some unfair play and bookings and and anything really as long as we get the three points come Sunday.
Fair play - but no points.... I will gladly settle for some unfair play and bookings and and anything really as long as we get the three points come Sunday. French Rover
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8:10am Thu 29 Nov 12

jonjonweatherman says...

Pathetic midfield. We need a Robbie Savage type player. Murphy & Etuhu are not comitted.They still think they are Fulham players.
Pathetic midfield. We need a Robbie Savage type player. Murphy & Etuhu are not comitted.They still think they are Fulham players. jonjonweatherman
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8:13am Thu 29 Nov 12

J.C - Rishton says...

Henning - Here's a tip - football is a simple game -

GOOD PLAYERS make GOOD TEAMS and BAD PLAYERS make BAD TEAMS !

So with that basic truism in mind - STOP PICKING CR@P PLAYERS, match after match !!!!!

We all know its a terrible squad but don't make your job even harder than it already is by picking total dross (DM, DE, MF) every week whilst leaving better (well at least competantly profesional, BETTER players on the bench - GG, MGP, SV, CCR, NG etc etc).

If you do not or cannot understand or IMPLEMENT this single basic managerial point then there is NO FUTURE for you as a football manager and your tenure as BFRC manager is going to be very short and not very sweet !

So come on Henning - we are all behind you but you have to start doing your job to a basic, competant level, preferably on Sunday !
Henning - Here's a tip - football is a simple game - GOOD PLAYERS make GOOD TEAMS and BAD PLAYERS make BAD TEAMS ! So with that basic truism in mind - STOP PICKING CR@P PLAYERS, match after match !!!!! We all know its a terrible squad but don't make your job even harder than it already is by picking total dross (DM, DE, MF) every week whilst leaving better (well at least competantly profesional, BETTER players on the bench - GG, MGP, SV, CCR, NG etc etc). If you do not or cannot understand or IMPLEMENT this single basic managerial point then there is NO FUTURE for you as a football manager and your tenure as BFRC manager is going to be very short and not very sweet ! So come on Henning - we are all behind you but you have to start doing your job to a basic, competant level, preferably on Sunday ! J.C - Rishton
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8:13am Thu 29 Nov 12

Russ ov the rovers says...

We was rubbish! We only started playing when Kazim- Richards came on he showed hunger and will. It's simply not good enough geez we where better under Black! Play like that Sunday then we can kiss our 34 year record goodbye.
We was rubbish! We only started playing when Kazim- Richards came on he showed hunger and will. It's simply not good enough geez we where better under Black! Play like that Sunday then we can kiss our 34 year record goodbye. Russ ov the rovers
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8:29am Thu 29 Nov 12

bburnrover says...

We have no midfield we need two Gary Flitcrofts noone tackles and Murphy is struggling.The young lad at right back looks a good prospect and we did look a much better team when Rochina went off but Formica was useless as well there is no way he can continue playing those two players in the same team.We must have Richards on against Burnley he can win the ball and link up with Rhodes but I cannot see us winning the way we are playing at the moment.Shebbie may be in trouble for taking a month to select an unemployed manager who put his cap in the ring right away after the job was advertised.I feel sorry for Berg as the matches come thick and fast and he does not get time to work out who he should play out of all our overrated squad.
We have no midfield we need two Gary Flitcrofts noone tackles and Murphy is struggling.The young lad at right back looks a good prospect and we did look a much better team when Rochina went off but Formica was useless as well there is no way he can continue playing those two players in the same team.We must have Richards on against Burnley he can win the ball and link up with Rhodes but I cannot see us winning the way we are playing at the moment.Shebbie may be in trouble for taking a month to select an unemployed manager who put his cap in the ring right away after the job was advertised.I feel sorry for Berg as the matches come thick and fast and he does not get time to work out who he should play out of all our overrated squad. bburnrover
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8:33am Thu 29 Nov 12

Gaz M says...

Too many **** footed players no beef or muscle in the team for this division, fancy dans wont cut it and the foreign lads seem to be out of their depth.When Bolton completely out play you on your own patch and concidering the bad start they have had then we have got problems again we have players giving it large to the press then hide when on the pitch make no mistake the dingles will be up for sundays game and Iam afraid that if Berg picks the same we are in for a torrid and embarassing afternoon.
Too many **** footed players no beef or muscle in the team for this division, fancy dans wont cut it and the foreign lads seem to be out of their depth.When Bolton completely out play you on your own patch and concidering the bad start they have had then we have got problems again we have players giving it large to the press then hide when on the pitch make no mistake the dingles will be up for sundays game and Iam afraid that if Berg picks the same we are in for a torrid and embarassing afternoon. Gaz M
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8:58am Thu 29 Nov 12

Angry From Accrington says...

If Shebby, the snake, Singh crawls on his hands and knees to Surrey and begs Steve Kean to come back we might stll avoid relegation. Failing that I have heard that Glen Keeley is looking for a job. He would probably make a crap manager but he was a popular centre half.
If Shebby, the snake, Singh crawls on his hands and knees to Surrey and begs Steve Kean to come back we might stll avoid relegation. Failing that I have heard that Glen Keeley is looking for a job. He would probably make a crap manager but he was a popular centre half. Angry From Accrington
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9:12am Thu 29 Nov 12

Riverside 7 says...

After a very poor performance against Millwall when we were well beaten at home against a team playing 2 strikers away from home, I was amazed that Berg started with almost the same line up against Bolton– the only exception being King for Olsson.

He retained the same defence that has not kept a clean sheet since he arrived, he kept the same central midfield partnership that has not worked in 19 games, and again started with Rhodes isolated on his own up front.

His substitutes Lowe, Pederson and Kazim-Richards did improve the team late on but they should have been introduced much earlier as it was abundantly clear early in the 1st half that things were not working.

Rochina had a very poor game (but he was not on his own) and I do not understand why we are persisting with Formica on the right.

Not for the first time this season we did not look as fit as the opposition and this can probably be traced back to the club dispensing with the services of our fitness coach last season.

Bolton’s appetite to work hard and press the ball high up the park was in direct contrast to our slow play.
I simply do not believe that Murphy and Etuhu have the energy to chase the ball down anymore.

We need players who are prepared to battle for the club.

At the moment I feel apprehensive about Sunday and have doubts whether Berg can motivate or select the right team for the derby game.

It is now just 5 points from a possible 18 which is more like relegation form.

I never understood what in Berg’s management record persuaded the Board to appoint him as manager when clearly his fellow Norwegian OGS had a much better CV.
By the way, Molde have just retained the Norwegian League title.

In closing I would like to ask the club a couple of questions.
1) Where were the 7 Portuguese players we signed in the summer last night?
2) And who at the club was responsible for signing them all?
After a very poor performance against Millwall when we were well beaten at home against a team playing 2 strikers away from home, I was amazed that Berg started with almost the same line up against Bolton– the only exception being King for Olsson. He retained the same defence that has not kept a clean sheet since he arrived, he kept the same central midfield partnership that has not worked in 19 games, and again started with Rhodes isolated on his own up front. His substitutes Lowe, Pederson and Kazim-Richards did improve the team late on but they should have been introduced much earlier as it was abundantly clear early in the 1st half that things were not working. Rochina had a very poor game (but he was not on his own) and I do not understand why we are persisting with Formica on the right. Not for the first time this season we did not look as fit as the opposition and this can probably be traced back to the club dispensing with the services of our fitness coach last season. Bolton’s appetite to work hard and press the ball high up the park was in direct contrast to our slow play. I simply do not believe that Murphy and Etuhu have the energy to chase the ball down anymore. We need players who are prepared to battle for the club. At the moment I feel apprehensive about Sunday and have doubts whether Berg can motivate or select the right team for the derby game. It is now just 5 points from a possible 18 which is more like relegation form. I never understood what in Berg’s management record persuaded the Board to appoint him as manager when clearly his fellow Norwegian OGS had a much better CV. By the way, Molde have just retained the Norwegian League title. In closing I would like to ask the club a couple of questions. 1) Where were the 7 Portuguese players we signed in the summer last night? 2) And who at the club was responsible for signing them all? Riverside 7
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9:13am Thu 29 Nov 12

katrew says...

Hennng was a great player for the club but his record as a manger was and is very poor. Tthe genius Shebby who took over a month to find the "right man" asking for patience - what a joke. The "right man" for Venky's was someone who was not in a contract to another club so they didn't have to pay any compensation and someone who was foolish enough to come to the club without any backroom staff of his own to keep costs down by utilising Black and Hendry. So Venky's plan as always with the club is The Cheapskate Option. Nobody who supports the club can really have any doubts about that. Every decision they have taken in respect of Rovers has been bad from sacking Big Sam to hanging on to Kean to employing Singh, Shaw, Hendry to selling a lot of quality players and replacing them by and large with inferior ones. Poor old Henning is on a hiding to nothing and it won't get better nay time soon.
Hennng was a great player for the club but his record as a manger was and is very poor. Tthe genius Shebby who took over a month to find the "right man" asking for patience - what a joke. The "right man" for Venky's was someone who was not in a contract to another club so they didn't have to pay any compensation and someone who was foolish enough to come to the club without any backroom staff of his own to keep costs down by utilising Black and Hendry. So Venky's plan as always with the club is The Cheapskate Option. Nobody who supports the club can really have any doubts about that. Every decision they have taken in respect of Rovers has been bad from sacking Big Sam to hanging on to Kean to employing Singh, Shaw, Hendry to selling a lot of quality players and replacing them by and large with inferior ones. Poor old Henning is on a hiding to nothing and it won't get better nay time soon. katrew
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9:14am Thu 29 Nov 12

jackmetickler says...

sort it out HB...

NO FORGIVENESS IF WE LOSE AGAINST THE DINGLES
sort it out HB... NO FORGIVENESS IF WE LOSE AGAINST THE DINGLES jackmetickler
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9:19am Thu 29 Nov 12

Angry From Accrington says...

J.C - Rishton wrote:
Henning - Here's a tip - football is a simple game -

GOOD PLAYERS make GOOD TEAMS and BAD PLAYERS make BAD TEAMS !

So with that basic truism in mind - STOP PICKING CR@P PLAYERS, match after match !!!!!

We all know its a terrible squad but don't make your job even harder than it already is by picking total dross (DM, DE, MF) every week whilst leaving better (well at least competantly profesional, BETTER players on the bench - GG, MGP, SV, CCR, NG etc etc).

If you do not or cannot understand or IMPLEMENT this single basic managerial point then there is NO FUTURE for you as a football manager and your tenure as BFRC manager is going to be very short and not very sweet !

So come on Henning - we are all behind you but you have to start doing your job to a basic, competant level, preferably on Sunday !
Actually we are NOT all behind him. He has absolutely no credentials or qualifications to be managing at this level and has already proved himself to be a useless judge of talent, a poor tactician and rubbish motivator! Berg Out......quickly followed by Singh
[quote][p][bold]J.C - Rishton[/bold] wrote: Henning - Here's a tip - football is a simple game - GOOD PLAYERS make GOOD TEAMS and BAD PLAYERS make BAD TEAMS ! So with that basic truism in mind - STOP PICKING CR@P PLAYERS, match after match !!!!! We all know its a terrible squad but don't make your job even harder than it already is by picking total dross (DM, DE, MF) every week whilst leaving better (well at least competantly profesional, BETTER players on the bench - GG, MGP, SV, CCR, NG etc etc). If you do not or cannot understand or IMPLEMENT this single basic managerial point then there is NO FUTURE for you as a football manager and your tenure as BFRC manager is going to be very short and not very sweet ! So come on Henning - we are all behind you but you have to start doing your job to a basic, competant level, preferably on Sunday ![/p][/quote]Actually we are NOT all behind him. He has absolutely no credentials or qualifications to be managing at this level and has already proved himself to be a useless judge of talent, a poor tactician and rubbish motivator! Berg Out......quickly followed by Singh Angry From Accrington
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9:33am Thu 29 Nov 12

Whittle Wilky says...

The problems of last night are solely down to Berg. He picks the team, he sets the tactics.

Please Henning listen to the fans. Black got it right, drop that useless lump Murphy and his Fulham sidekick. We stunk in miodfield. How many passes did Murphy complete without giving the ball away. His one golden chance to score and redeem himself. He passes it out instead.

We need some speed on the wings. And fire in the bellies. Olson doesn't sit comfortable at the back. Get Givet back there.
And for god sake play 2 up front especially at home. Rhodes cannot do it all without some help
The problems of last night are solely down to Berg. He picks the team, he sets the tactics. Please Henning listen to the fans. Black got it right, drop that useless lump Murphy and his Fulham sidekick. We stunk in miodfield. How many passes did Murphy complete without giving the ball away. His one golden chance to score and redeem himself. He passes it out instead. We need some speed on the wings. And fire in the bellies. Olson doesn't sit comfortable at the back. Get Givet back there. And for god sake play 2 up front especially at home. Rhodes cannot do it all without some help Whittle Wilky
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9:35am Thu 29 Nov 12

Bazzer says...

Midfield crap? Hoof it over their useless heads! Bypass them! Simples!
Midfield crap? Hoof it over their useless heads! Bypass them! Simples! Bazzer
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9:37am Thu 29 Nov 12

Harwoodstblue says...

katrew wrote:
Hennng was a great player for the club but his record as a manger was and is very poor. Tthe genius Shebby who took over a month to find the "right man" asking for patience - what a joke. The "right man" for Venky's was someone who was not in a contract to another club so they didn't have to pay any compensation and someone who was foolish enough to come to the club without any backroom staff of his own to keep costs down by utilising Black and Hendry. So Venky's plan as always with the club is The Cheapskate Option. Nobody who supports the club can really have any doubts about that. Every decision they have taken in respect of Rovers has been bad from sacking Big Sam to hanging on to Kean to employing Singh, Shaw, Hendry to selling a lot of quality players and replacing them by and large with inferior ones. Poor old Henning is on a hiding to nothing and it won't get better nay time soon.
............Cheapska
te Option.

Exactly. when have Venkeys been anything other than cheapskates? That's what has got us where we are.

I wouldn't expect much money, if any, for strengthening in January either.
[quote][p][bold]katrew[/bold] wrote: Hennng was a great player for the club but his record as a manger was and is very poor. Tthe genius Shebby who took over a month to find the "right man" asking for patience - what a joke. The "right man" for Venky's was someone who was not in a contract to another club so they didn't have to pay any compensation and someone who was foolish enough to come to the club without any backroom staff of his own to keep costs down by utilising Black and Hendry. So Venky's plan as always with the club is The Cheapskate Option. Nobody who supports the club can really have any doubts about that. Every decision they have taken in respect of Rovers has been bad from sacking Big Sam to hanging on to Kean to employing Singh, Shaw, Hendry to selling a lot of quality players and replacing them by and large with inferior ones. Poor old Henning is on a hiding to nothing and it won't get better nay time soon.[/p][/quote]............Cheapska te Option. Exactly. when have Venkeys been anything other than cheapskates? That's what has got us where we are. I wouldn't expect much money, if any, for strengthening in January either. Harwoodstblue
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9:50am Thu 29 Nov 12

1952 rover says...

Sorry but he has to go NOW.
Sorry but he has to go NOW. 1952 rover
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10:04am Thu 29 Nov 12

StLedge says...

1952 rover wrote:
Sorry but he has to go NOW.
Shut up you prat!
[quote][p][bold]1952 rover[/bold] wrote: Sorry but he has to go NOW.[/p][/quote]Shut up you prat! StLedge
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10:06am Thu 29 Nov 12

Ronaldpetercooper says...

J.C - Rishton wrote:
Henning - Here's a tip - football is a simple game - GOOD PLAYERS make GOOD TEAMS and BAD PLAYERS make BAD TEAMS ! So with that basic truism in mind - STOP PICKING CR@P PLAYERS, match after match !!!!! We all know its a terrible squad but don't make your job even harder than it already is by picking total dross (DM, DE, MF) every week whilst leaving better (well at least competantly profesional, BETTER players on the bench - GG, MGP, SV, CCR, NG etc etc). If you do not or cannot understand or IMPLEMENT this single basic managerial point then there is NO FUTURE for you as a football manager and your tenure as BFRC manager is going to be very short and not very sweet ! So come on Henning - we are all behind you but you have to start doing your job to a basic, competant level, preferably on Sunday !
Hi JC Once again spot on I to am baffled by team selection. I am bored with saying it but our midfield is hopeless and frankly has not been up to scratch for some time. There is absolutely no future in continuing to select Etuhu, Murphy, Rochina. Formica together as they are not good enough, don't fight for the ball and canot play as a unit. We desperately need a yard dog in midfield with a bite and pace. The team currently being selected is just not good enough and will definitely NOT get promoted. We will need to get rid of a lot of this lot in Jan and buy a couple of midfielders.
What is the reason for Simon Vuchevic not being given a chance.
[quote][p][bold]J.C - Rishton[/bold] wrote: Henning - Here's a tip - football is a simple game - GOOD PLAYERS make GOOD TEAMS and BAD PLAYERS make BAD TEAMS ! So with that basic truism in mind - STOP PICKING CR@P PLAYERS, match after match !!!!! We all know its a terrible squad but don't make your job even harder than it already is by picking total dross (DM, DE, MF) every week whilst leaving better (well at least competantly profesional, BETTER players on the bench - GG, MGP, SV, CCR, NG etc etc). If you do not or cannot understand or IMPLEMENT this single basic managerial point then there is NO FUTURE for you as a football manager and your tenure as BFRC manager is going to be very short and not very sweet ! So come on Henning - we are all behind you but you have to start doing your job to a basic, competant level, preferably on Sunday ![/p][/quote]Hi JC Once again spot on I to am baffled by team selection. I am bored with saying it but our midfield is hopeless and frankly has not been up to scratch for some time. There is absolutely no future in continuing to select Etuhu, Murphy, Rochina. Formica together as they are not good enough, don't fight for the ball and canot play as a unit. We desperately need a yard dog in midfield with a bite and pace. The team currently being selected is just not good enough and will definitely NOT get promoted. We will need to get rid of a lot of this lot in Jan and buy a couple of midfielders. What is the reason for Simon Vuchevic not being given a chance. Ronaldpetercooper
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10:14am Thu 29 Nov 12

eddyo says...

A lot of the teams play with a high intensity and at the moment we have no answer to it. That style is alien to Rochina and Formica and they panic rather than look for the easy pass or early cross.
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To some extent we have to get used to a style of play that allows no time on the ball and by playing 2 up front the midfield will be much less crowded. Because neither Rochina or Formica cross the ball in to the box enough we can't have both in the team at the same time.
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I would start with the team that finished last night.
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As for those overly criticising BERG !!! at this stage, I almost pity you. ! ! !
A lot of the teams play with a high intensity and at the moment we have no answer to it. That style is alien to Rochina and Formica and they panic rather than look for the easy pass or early cross. * To some extent we have to get used to a style of play that allows no time on the ball and by playing 2 up front the midfield will be much less crowded. Because neither Rochina or Formica cross the ball in to the box enough we can't have both in the team at the same time. * I would start with the team that finished last night. * As for those overly criticising BERG !!! at this stage, I almost pity you. ! ! ! eddyo
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10:22am Thu 29 Nov 12

1riversider says...

I haven't posted for a while, but after last night's performance, and result, I think we need a reality check, on just where we are as a club.

THE OWNERS - beneath contempt - no further comment!

THE BOARD - surely the most dysfunctional bunch of incompetents ever to run a football club. The only consolation lately is that the comedian in charge, Shebby has kept quiet! The real Three Stooges could do better.

THE MANAGER - I like HB and want him to succeed, but are we watching history repeat itself with an untried and unproven manager? The question has to be asked - was he just the cheap option?

THE COACHES - taxi for Black and Hendry!

THE PLAYERS - This has got to be the worst squad in 25 years, overburdened with has beens and never willbes. The disastrous transfer policy of the last 2 years is coming home to roost, with a squad ill equipped for the Championship, let alone the pipe dream of the Premiership!

I fear we are on a downward slope to oblivion, with no-one in position to do anything about it.

I hate to say it, but Blackburn Rovers as we have known and loved them for the previous 135 years no longer exist. RIP

SHYSTERS GET OUT OF OUR CLUB NOW
I haven't posted for a while, but after last night's performance, and result, I think we need a reality check, on just where we are as a club. THE OWNERS - beneath contempt - no further comment! THE BOARD - surely the most dysfunctional bunch of incompetents ever to run a football club. The only consolation lately is that the comedian in charge, Shebby has kept quiet! The real Three Stooges could do better. THE MANAGER - I like HB and want him to succeed, but are we watching history repeat itself with an untried and unproven manager? The question has to be asked - was he just the cheap option? THE COACHES - taxi for Black and Hendry! THE PLAYERS - This has got to be the worst squad in 25 years, overburdened with has beens and never willbes. The disastrous transfer policy of the last 2 years is coming home to roost, with a squad ill equipped for the Championship, let alone the pipe dream of the Premiership! I fear we are on a downward slope to oblivion, with no-one in position to do anything about it. I hate to say it, but Blackburn Rovers as we have known and loved them for the previous 135 years no longer exist. RIP SHYSTERS GET OUT OF OUR CLUB NOW 1riversider
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10:28am Thu 29 Nov 12

jag kalsi says...

1952 rover wrote:
Sorry but he has to go NOW.
what a **** you are, got off this forum.
[quote][p][bold]1952 rover[/bold] wrote: Sorry but he has to go NOW.[/p][/quote]what a **** you are, got off this forum. jag kalsi
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10:28am Thu 29 Nov 12

leitchy says...

Sunday now becomes a must win!!! another loss and fans will turn to Berg! and rightly so!!
Sunday now becomes a must win!!! another loss and fans will turn to Berg! and rightly so!! leitchy
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10:37am Thu 29 Nov 12

owd nick says...

StLedge wrote:
1952 rover wrote:
Sorry but he has to go NOW.
Shut up you prat!
Seconded, another clown jumps out of the box.
[quote][p][bold]StLedge[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]1952 rover[/bold] wrote: Sorry but he has to go NOW.[/p][/quote]Shut up you prat![/p][/quote]Seconded, another clown jumps out of the box. owd nick
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10:38am Thu 29 Nov 12

1952 rover says...

StLedge wrote:
1952 rover wrote:
Sorry but he has to go NOW.
Shut up you prat!
So pray tell me what he has done to get your full support PRATT. You have your opinion and i will have mine. He should never have got the job in the first place. Same old Venky's the cheapest option.
[quote][p][bold]StLedge[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]1952 rover[/bold] wrote: Sorry but he has to go NOW.[/p][/quote]Shut up you prat![/p][/quote]So pray tell me what he has done to get your full support PRATT. You have your opinion and i will have mine. He should never have got the job in the first place. Same old Venky's the cheapest option. 1952 rover
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10:41am Thu 29 Nov 12

1952 rover says...

jag kalsi wrote:
1952 rover wrote:
Sorry but he has to go NOW.
what a **** you are, got off this forum.
why because i do not agree with you. He is was the wrong choice end of. Results are proving me correct as well. Numpty
[quote][p][bold]jag kalsi[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]1952 rover[/bold] wrote: Sorry but he has to go NOW.[/p][/quote]what a **** you are, got off this forum.[/p][/quote]why because i do not agree with you. He is was the wrong choice end of. Results are proving me correct as well. Numpty 1952 rover
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10:41am Thu 29 Nov 12

1952 rover says...

jag kalsi wrote:
1952 rover wrote:
Sorry but he has to go NOW.
what a **** you are, got off this forum.
why because i do not agree with you. He is was the wrong choice end of. Results are proving me correct as well. Numpty
[quote][p][bold]jag kalsi[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]1952 rover[/bold] wrote: Sorry but he has to go NOW.[/p][/quote]what a **** you are, got off this forum.[/p][/quote]why because i do not agree with you. He is was the wrong choice end of. Results are proving me correct as well. Numpty 1952 rover
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10:41am Thu 29 Nov 12

1952 rover says...

jag kalsi wrote:
1952 rover wrote:
Sorry but he has to go NOW.
what a **** you are, got off this forum.
why because i do not agree with you. He is was the wrong choice end of. Results are proving me correct as well. Numpty
[quote][p][bold]jag kalsi[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]1952 rover[/bold] wrote: Sorry but he has to go NOW.[/p][/quote]what a **** you are, got off this forum.[/p][/quote]why because i do not agree with you. He is was the wrong choice end of. Results are proving me correct as well. Numpty 1952 rover
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10:42am Thu 29 Nov 12

1952 rover says...

owd nick wrote:
StLedge wrote:
1952 rover wrote:
Sorry but he has to go NOW.
Shut up you prat!
Seconded, another clown jumps out of the box.
St Ledge is the CLOWN
[quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]StLedge[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]1952 rover[/bold] wrote: Sorry but he has to go NOW.[/p][/quote]Shut up you prat![/p][/quote]Seconded, another clown jumps out of the box.[/p][/quote]St Ledge is the CLOWN 1952 rover
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10:43am Thu 29 Nov 12

stephenrover says...

I think Berg is absolutely incomparable to Kean -anyone who suggests otherwise is just hunting for parallels and wants to complain.

He needs time. The squad have been allowed to get unfit -which is completely reprehensible and inexcusable. He's clearly had a positive mental impact on the players. He just needs a bit of time to sort it all out, and hopefully bring in someone who'll battle in midfield in January.

His team selection seems a bit naive -he's picking our 'classiest' players and he needs to ensure that the squad contains some ballsy, tenacious players do battle in this nasty league...
I think Berg is absolutely incomparable to Kean -anyone who suggests otherwise is just hunting for parallels and wants to complain. He needs time. The squad have been allowed to get unfit -which is completely reprehensible and inexcusable. He's clearly had a positive mental impact on the players. He just needs a bit of time to sort it all out, and hopefully bring in someone who'll battle in midfield in January. His team selection seems a bit naive -he's picking our 'classiest' players and he needs to ensure that the squad contains some ballsy, tenacious players do battle in this nasty league... stephenrover
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10:45am Thu 29 Nov 12

1952 rover says...

jag kalsi wrote:
1952 rover wrote:
Sorry but he has to go NOW.
what a **** you are, got off this forum.
You will change your tune if we loose on Sunday. We played Cr-p last night as well as on Saturday. It is a results game. and 1 win in 6 in RUBBISH. It is getting as bad as agent Kean.
[quote][p][bold]jag kalsi[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]1952 rover[/bold] wrote: Sorry but he has to go NOW.[/p][/quote]what a **** you are, got off this forum.[/p][/quote]You will change your tune if we loose on Sunday. We played Cr-p last night as well as on Saturday. It is a results game. and 1 win in 6 in RUBBISH. It is getting as bad as agent Kean. 1952 rover
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10:45am Thu 29 Nov 12

dangerous dave says...

Berg disappointed - ' what an understatement' !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 5 points out of possible 18 absolute rubbish performance again - pre and post match interviews not inspiring at all and yet again the coaching skills of Black and Hendry pay no dividend what so ever - get them out of the club!!!!!!!!!!!
Well Messrs Agnew Shaw Venkeys and of course the global adviser Shabby Shebby - after searching Europe and considering as we were told some of the best Managers in Football you've made yet another great appointment - waiting for some form of statement about progress so far from our idiotic Board of Directors!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!! Yes it will probably be a long wait.
OUT WITH SHAW AGNEW SINGH BLACK HENDRY VENKEYS
Berg disappointed - ' what an understatement' !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 5 points out of possible 18 absolute rubbish performance again - pre and post match interviews not inspiring at all and yet again the coaching skills of Black and Hendry pay no dividend what so ever - get them out of the club!!!!!!!!!!! Well Messrs Agnew Shaw Venkeys and of course the global adviser Shabby Shebby - after searching Europe and considering as we were told some of the best Managers in Football you've made yet another great appointment - waiting for some form of statement about progress so far from our idiotic Board of Directors!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!! Yes it will probably be a long wait. OUT WITH SHAW AGNEW SINGH BLACK HENDRY VENKEYS dangerous dave
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10:46am Thu 29 Nov 12

MatthewCA says...

Pic the best from our team. I feel keep the same team on each start is causing lots of problem and not FIT also. Get the strong legs come first 11 and win the matchs. Our YAK is Kazim, he is strong, experiance in difficult times and he is strong on legs. may be he is selfish, but a coach can guide his thought process and improve his passing ability. he did a good job in the last game, such crosses need to get from both the wing players and I still hope we can come back to top of the league by new year.
My team for next match :
4-4-2
Robbo
Lowe,Dann,Givit,Mrt.
Ollson
Kazim,Murphy(c),Pede
rsen,Nunes
Rhodes,Gomes.
Sub:Kean,Hanley,Henl
ey,M.Ollson,Vukcevic
,Rochina,King

Do some plan on Corners and Corsses into box. Drill to get more pace on each players to get more stamina. be ruthless in defence(what a mistake on bolton game, the rebound ball went into second goal)

We as a team get the wining moment together is missing. Hope every one will put there good show to keep moveing together with full points.
Pic the best from our team. I feel keep the same team on each start is causing lots of problem and not FIT also. Get the strong legs come first 11 and win the matchs. Our YAK is Kazim, he is strong, experiance in difficult times and he is strong on legs. may be he is selfish, but a coach can guide his thought process and improve his passing ability. he did a good job in the last game, such crosses need to get from both the wing players and I still hope we can come back to top of the league by new year. My team for next match : 4-4-2 Robbo Lowe,Dann,Givit,Mrt. Ollson Kazim,Murphy(c),Pede rsen,Nunes Rhodes,Gomes. Sub:Kean,Hanley,Henl ey,M.Ollson,Vukcevic ,Rochina,King Do some plan on Corners and Corsses into box. Drill to get more pace on each players to get more stamina. be ruthless in defence(what a mistake on bolton game, the rebound ball went into second goal) We as a team get the wining moment together is missing. Hope every one will put there good show to keep moveing together with full points. MatthewCA
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10:50am Thu 29 Nov 12

bornindarwenliveinnottm says...

I hope that Berg is picking the team but the line-ups are bizarre.

For me, we need to pick a 4-4-2 formation with Nuno Gomez up top to complement Jordan Rhodes and two quick wingers (Fabio Nunez and Simon Vucevic) to whip crosses into them. We need to get rid of Murphy and Etuhu who are both going through the motions and get in two combative fit centre midfielders (we have one in Jason Lowe) to boss the game and feed the wingers. We also need a solid centre half who has been there and done it who will organise the back 4 – I would make this new player captain.

So, in January, we need to go out and buy and a good midfielder and a good centre half. We don’t really need anyone else if you stick to the above formation and tactics. With the right service, Rhodes and Nunez will score 50 goals between them in this league!

I know it won’t happen, but my 2 fringe players from the Premiership that I’d go for would be Carragher from Liverpool and Whitehead from Stoke.

If Berg is actually picking the team then it looks like he's clueless I'm afraid. If Shebby is picking the team based on the content of players contracts - which we know has happened previously under these owners, then we will end up in League 1 at this rate.

If it is down to Berg's lack of managerial know-how, then the fans will turn if results don't improve and hopefully we'll see a few "HUGHES COME AND SAVE US" banners at Ewood and he'll be in the hot seat to get us in the play offs.
I hope that Berg is picking the team but the line-ups are bizarre. For me, we need to pick a 4-4-2 formation with Nuno Gomez up top to complement Jordan Rhodes and two quick wingers (Fabio Nunez and Simon Vucevic) to whip crosses into them. We need to get rid of Murphy and Etuhu who are both going through the motions and get in two combative fit centre midfielders (we have one in Jason Lowe) to boss the game and feed the wingers. We also need a solid centre half who has been there and done it who will organise the back 4 – I would make this new player captain. So, in January, we need to go out and buy and a good midfielder and a good centre half. We don’t really need anyone else if you stick to the above formation and tactics. With the right service, Rhodes and Nunez will score 50 goals between them in this league! I know it won’t happen, but my 2 fringe players from the Premiership that I’d go for would be Carragher from Liverpool and Whitehead from Stoke. If Berg is actually picking the team then it looks like he's clueless I'm afraid. If Shebby is picking the team based on the content of players contracts - which we know has happened previously under these owners, then we will end up in League 1 at this rate. If it is down to Berg's lack of managerial know-how, then the fans will turn if results don't improve and hopefully we'll see a few "HUGHES COME AND SAVE US" banners at Ewood and he'll be in the hot seat to get us in the play offs. bornindarwenliveinnottm
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10:58am Thu 29 Nov 12

owd nick says...

Ronaldpetercooper wrote:
J.C - Rishton wrote:
Henning - Here's a tip - football is a simple game - GOOD PLAYERS make GOOD TEAMS and BAD PLAYERS make BAD TEAMS ! So with that basic truism in mind - STOP PICKING CR@P PLAYERS, match after match !!!!! We all know its a terrible squad but don't make your job even harder than it already is by picking total dross (DM, DE, MF) every week whilst leaving better (well at least competantly profesional, BETTER players on the bench - GG, MGP, SV, CCR, NG etc etc). If you do not or cannot understand or IMPLEMENT this single basic managerial point then there is NO FUTURE for you as a football manager and your tenure as BFRC manager is going to be very short and not very sweet ! So come on Henning - we are all behind you but you have to start doing your job to a basic, competant level, preferably on Sunday !
Hi JC Once again spot on I to am baffled by team selection. I am bored with saying it but our midfield is hopeless and frankly has not been up to scratch for some time. There is absolutely no future in continuing to select Etuhu, Murphy, Rochina. Formica together as they are not good enough, don't fight for the ball and canot play as a unit. We desperately need a yard dog in midfield with a bite and pace. The team currently being selected is just not good enough and will definitely NOT get promoted. We will need to get rid of a lot of this lot in Jan and buy a couple of midfielders.
What is the reason for Simon Vuchevic not being given a chance.
Agreed, every team we have met at home so far knows our midfield isn't up to it so press them into mistakes every time they have the ball, its like taking candy off babies.

Strange we have scored more goals away from home, and only lost one game so far, could that have something to do with the strange sort of negative attitude at Ewood?

Lowe must start on Sunday even if its just to give some protection to the defence which has had none at all for the last two games.

Pedersen has to start because without him we don't have a single player who can take free kicks or corners, even flaming throw ins.

I am not a great fan of Kazim Richards only because I am not convinced he is a team player, but he has to start because he is experienced, has pace can hold up and head a ball.

As far as Berg is concerned we have to give him a chance irrespective of what happens Sunday because these are not his players, he's doing what he can with a miss mash of fancy dan footballers who really don't have the heart to play for this club.

Keans crap need to be paid off and shipped out as soon as possible.

The transfer window and what happens after is Bergs chance to show what he can do.

If he fails, or isn't supported as promised then that will be it for me, I am not going to continue paying good money for season tickets and sitting there watching second rate dross like that while freezing my gonads off much longer.

This is my 40th season as a Rovers fan, 20+ of them as a ST holder, hopefully it isn't my last.
[quote][p][bold]Ronaldpetercooper[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J.C - Rishton[/bold] wrote: Henning - Here's a tip - football is a simple game - GOOD PLAYERS make GOOD TEAMS and BAD PLAYERS make BAD TEAMS ! So with that basic truism in mind - STOP PICKING CR@P PLAYERS, match after match !!!!! We all know its a terrible squad but don't make your job even harder than it already is by picking total dross (DM, DE, MF) every week whilst leaving better (well at least competantly profesional, BETTER players on the bench - GG, MGP, SV, CCR, NG etc etc). If you do not or cannot understand or IMPLEMENT this single basic managerial point then there is NO FUTURE for you as a football manager and your tenure as BFRC manager is going to be very short and not very sweet ! So come on Henning - we are all behind you but you have to start doing your job to a basic, competant level, preferably on Sunday ![/p][/quote]Hi JC Once again spot on I to am baffled by team selection. I am bored with saying it but our midfield is hopeless and frankly has not been up to scratch for some time. There is absolutely no future in continuing to select Etuhu, Murphy, Rochina. Formica together as they are not good enough, don't fight for the ball and canot play as a unit. We desperately need a yard dog in midfield with a bite and pace. The team currently being selected is just not good enough and will definitely NOT get promoted. We will need to get rid of a lot of this lot in Jan and buy a couple of midfielders. What is the reason for Simon Vuchevic not being given a chance.[/p][/quote]Agreed, every team we have met at home so far knows our midfield isn't up to it so press them into mistakes every time they have the ball, its like taking candy off babies. Strange we have scored more goals away from home, and only lost one game so far, could that have something to do with the strange sort of negative attitude at Ewood? Lowe must start on Sunday even if its just to give some protection to the defence which has had none at all for the last two games. Pedersen has to start because without him we don't have a single player who can take free kicks or corners, even flaming throw ins. I am not a great fan of Kazim Richards only because I am not convinced he is a team player, but he has to start because he is experienced, has pace can hold up and head a ball. As far as Berg is concerned we have to give him a chance irrespective of what happens Sunday because these are not his players, he's doing what he can with a miss mash of fancy dan footballers who really don't have the heart to play for this club. Keans crap need to be paid off and shipped out as soon as possible. The transfer window and what happens after is Bergs chance to show what he can do. If he fails, or isn't supported as promised then that will be it for me, I am not going to continue paying good money for season tickets and sitting there watching second rate dross like that while freezing my gonads off much longer. This is my 40th season as a Rovers fan, 20+ of them as a ST holder, hopefully it isn't my last. owd nick
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11:04am Thu 29 Nov 12

Kermit The Frog says...

Ok so judging by this thread it appears to be the following who are to blame for Blackburn's demise:

Steve Kean
Venkys
Shebby Singh
Henning Berg
Colin Hendry
Eric Black
Danny Murphy
Dixon Etuhu

You guys rival the micky mousers for the ability to blame everyone.

BOTB
Ok so judging by this thread it appears to be the following who are to blame for Blackburn's demise: Steve Kean Venkys Shebby Singh Henning Berg Colin Hendry Eric Black Danny Murphy Dixon Etuhu You guys rival the micky mousers for the ability to blame everyone. BOTB Kermit The Frog
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11:05am Thu 29 Nov 12

blueblooded says...

Whittle Wilky wrote:
The problems of last night are solely down to Berg. He picks the team, he sets the tactics.

Please Henning listen to the fans. Black got it right, drop that useless lump Murphy and his Fulham sidekick. We stunk in miodfield. How many passes did Murphy complete without giving the ball away. His one golden chance to score and redeem himself. He passes it out instead.

We need some speed on the wings. And fire in the bellies. Olson doesn't sit comfortable at the back. Get Givet back there.
And for god sake play 2 up front especially at home. Rhodes cannot do it all without some help
Completely agree. You can blame Venkys, Kean, Singh and the whole shebang since Jack passed away, but in the end, on the night, it fals on the manager to get the best out of the team he's got to play – and seeing that we have one of the most if not the most expensive squads in the championship, that shouldnt be the most impossible job to get a half decent performance as we got in the last 15 mins after the changes that were made way too late.

Facts are facts and they were as clear to each fan on the terrace last night and echoed in the jeers and boos what we were all thinking. The initial lineup wasnt working, so why no change in the first half? is there a written rule that you can't make substitutions early in the game?

The fact that Etuhu and Murphy were having a woeful game and they were still trotted out after half-time was mind blowing. We could have avoided that second goal just taking those two has-beens pff the field. Where was Berg's judgement? what was he thinking?

I think all will agree that losing to Bolton is no biggie in the greater scheme of things, they are a respectable side who always present us with a challenge and have had the better results from us in recent years, but it was the absolute clusterfluck of lacklustre performance by the team who were just man-handled up to 75 mins by the Trotters and Berg's lack of experience and tactical prowess that shoowed when he finally did make a change - too late after the second goal.

Honeymoon is well and truly over Mr Berg and if we lose on Sunday, you may well lose the fans.
[quote][p][bold]Whittle Wilky[/bold] wrote: The problems of last night are solely down to Berg. He picks the team, he sets the tactics. Please Henning listen to the fans. Black got it right, drop that useless lump Murphy and his Fulham sidekick. We stunk in miodfield. How many passes did Murphy complete without giving the ball away. His one golden chance to score and redeem himself. He passes it out instead. We need some speed on the wings. And fire in the bellies. Olson doesn't sit comfortable at the back. Get Givet back there. And for god sake play 2 up front especially at home. Rhodes cannot do it all without some help[/p][/quote]Completely agree. You can blame Venkys, Kean, Singh and the whole shebang since Jack passed away, but in the end, on the night, it fals on the manager to get the best out of the team he's got to play – and seeing that we have one of the most if not the most expensive squads in the championship, that shouldnt be the most impossible job to get a half decent performance as we got in the last 15 mins after the changes that were made way too late. Facts are facts and they were as clear to each fan on the terrace last night and echoed in the jeers and boos what we were all thinking. The initial lineup wasnt working, so why no change in the first half? is there a written rule that you can't make substitutions early in the game? The fact that Etuhu and Murphy were having a woeful game and they were still trotted out after half-time was mind blowing. We could have avoided that second goal just taking those two has-beens pff the field. Where was Berg's judgement? what was he thinking? I think all will agree that losing to Bolton is no biggie in the greater scheme of things, they are a respectable side who always present us with a challenge and have had the better results from us in recent years, but it was the absolute clusterfluck of lacklustre performance by the team who were just man-handled up to 75 mins by the Trotters and Berg's lack of experience and tactical prowess that shoowed when he finally did make a change - too late after the second goal. Honeymoon is well and truly over Mr Berg and if we lose on Sunday, you may well lose the fans. blueblooded
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11:06am Thu 29 Nov 12

Return of the Magnificent se7en says...

Bazzer wrote:
Midfield crap? Hoof it over their useless heads! Bypass them! Simples!
Hey up, Hoofball raises its head. The answer is to drop Danny murphy and put veucovic on the right we need more energy in midfield as murphy plays like mi dad. Also Formica is too lightwieght get peds back in.
Strewth it shows just how lightweight we have become if putting Pedersen back in gives us more strength, even pedersen is a wet blanket.
[quote][p][bold]Bazzer[/bold] wrote: Midfield crap? Hoof it over their useless heads! Bypass them! Simples![/p][/quote]Hey up, Hoofball raises its head. The answer is to drop Danny murphy and put veucovic on the right we need more energy in midfield as murphy plays like mi dad. Also Formica is too lightwieght get peds back in. Strewth it shows just how lightweight we have become if putting Pedersen back in gives us more strength, even pedersen is a wet blanket. Return of the Magnificent se7en
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12:13pm Thu 29 Nov 12

benal13 says...

seems like the honeymoons over for burg his record is worse than keans i said months ago murphy is here to boost his pension fund and i was right he is past it last night was pathetic or KEANESK THE CHEAP OPTION HAS NOT WORKED YOU CANT GET SACKED FRM A MICKEY MOUSE TEAM AND MANAGE IN THE CHAMPIONSHIP UNLESS YOU HAVE MICKEY MOUSE OWNERS ! SILLY ME ,WE HAVE !!!!!!!
seems like the honeymoons over for burg his record is worse than keans i said months ago murphy is here to boost his pension fund and i was right he is past it last night was pathetic or KEANESK THE CHEAP OPTION HAS NOT WORKED YOU CANT GET SACKED FRM A MICKEY MOUSE TEAM AND MANAGE IN THE CHAMPIONSHIP UNLESS YOU HAVE MICKEY MOUSE OWNERS ! SILLY ME ,WE HAVE !!!!!!! benal13
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12:18pm Thu 29 Nov 12

moh says...

Return of the Magnificent se7en wrote:
Bazzer wrote: Midfield crap? Hoof it over their useless heads! Bypass them! Simples!
Hey up, Hoofball raises its head. The answer is to drop Danny murphy and put veucovic on the right we need more energy in midfield as murphy plays like mi dad. Also Formica is too lightwieght get peds back in. Strewth it shows just how lightweight we have become if putting Pedersen back in gives us more strength, even pedersen is a wet blanket.
Pederson fades after half an hour if he plays from the start and he does'nt track back. He is better with set pieces. He is better to come on as a sub.
[quote][p][bold]Return of the Magnificent se7en[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bazzer[/bold] wrote: Midfield crap? Hoof it over their useless heads! Bypass them! Simples![/p][/quote]Hey up, Hoofball raises its head. The answer is to drop Danny murphy and put veucovic on the right we need more energy in midfield as murphy plays like mi dad. Also Formica is too lightwieght get peds back in. Strewth it shows just how lightweight we have become if putting Pedersen back in gives us more strength, even pedersen is a wet blanket.[/p][/quote]Pederson fades after half an hour if he plays from the start and he does'nt track back. He is better with set pieces. He is better to come on as a sub. moh
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12:22pm Thu 29 Nov 12

stick to football says...

The only things left are Ewood Park are

the Players Wages & their Egos

At best we are a mid table Championship side

To many nothing has changed - Rhodes last night had 1 and a half chance and we expect to beat teams

Rovers are physically short of fitness and pace and pretty passing the ball across the back four until someone has to hit it long will win nothing in this league

Why would anyone want to buy ahlf season ticket for this so called entertainment - its only cheap if it offers value - Rovers dont at the moment even a win on Subday will not convince me all at Ewood is rosy
The only things left are Ewood Park are the Players Wages & their Egos At best we are a mid table Championship side To many nothing has changed - Rhodes last night had 1 and a half chance and we expect to beat teams Rovers are physically short of fitness and pace and pretty passing the ball across the back four until someone has to hit it long will win nothing in this league Why would anyone want to buy ahlf season ticket for this so called entertainment - its only cheap if it offers value - Rovers dont at the moment even a win on Subday will not convince me all at Ewood is rosy stick to football
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12:37pm Thu 29 Nov 12

Miss-You-Uncle-Jack says...

Whilst I completely agree with people on here that the first place we need to start in recovery is 2 up top, instead of Rhodes being isolated most of every game, I am of the opinion that Rome was not built in a day. Yes, berg may well have been the cheap option, we expected nothing less of our owners, but he's still only been here is it even a month yet? He still needs to work out what he's got at his disposal before he can work out how to get the best out of our club. I may be going against the majority of what the posters on here are saying, but before you slate me it is only my opinion. He's not going anywhere and regardless of what we think we who still attend still need to be the 12th man this season, that's going to be huge! I also feel our prep for this game was nonexistent - seems to me all focus is on Sunday. Yes we need to focus but every game needs to be Derby day for us! Coyb!
Whilst I completely agree with people on here that the first place we need to start in recovery is 2 up top, instead of Rhodes being isolated most of every game, I am of the opinion that Rome was not built in a day. Yes, berg may well have been the cheap option, we expected nothing less of our owners, but he's still only been here is it even a month yet? He still needs to work out what he's got at his disposal before he can work out how to get the best out of our club. I may be going against the majority of what the posters on here are saying, but before you slate me it is only my opinion. He's not going anywhere and regardless of what we think we who still attend still need to be the 12th man this season, that's going to be huge! I also feel our prep for this game was nonexistent - seems to me all focus is on Sunday. Yes we need to focus but every game needs to be Derby day for us! Coyb! Miss-You-Uncle-Jack
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12:51pm Thu 29 Nov 12

Rayzerisaloser says...

Berg out,Berg out,Berg out,Keanwas better
Berg out,Berg out,Berg out,Keanwas better Rayzerisaloser
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1:20pm Thu 29 Nov 12

DanBlackburn says...

I was at the Leeds vs Leicester match on Tuesday (nice hospitality) and I have a few observations relevent to our predicament (taken that we do not know how much cash the new owners will put in)
1. A once proud club reduced to a crowd of 17k in a ground that holds over 40k. Formerly one of the biggest clubs in England.Desperate.
2. Destroyed by poor management predominently off the pitch (Ridsdale et al)

On looking at both teamsheets I hardly recognised any players. Given our squad as it is ( yes we can mourn the player that have left) we should still be romping in this league, Top 3 at least.
If only the clown like Venkys and the idiotic Shabby had not gone for the cheap option with Berg.
An experienced manager would have had us winning matches by now not labouring to dreadful home defeats.
After a week or two of feeling a small ember of recovery I now feel pessimistic and desperate again.

We have relegation form at the moment and I would like someone to explain how Berg will change it. It feels like yet another ridiculous cheap gamble that is going wrong.
I was at the Leeds vs Leicester match on Tuesday (nice hospitality) and I have a few observations relevent to our predicament (taken that we do not know how much cash the new owners will put in) 1. A once proud club reduced to a crowd of 17k in a ground that holds over 40k. Formerly one of the biggest clubs in England.Desperate. 2. Destroyed by poor management predominently off the pitch (Ridsdale et al) On looking at both teamsheets I hardly recognised any players. Given our squad as it is ( yes we can mourn the player that have left) we should still be romping in this league, Top 3 at least. If only the clown like Venkys and the idiotic Shabby had not gone for the cheap option with Berg. An experienced manager would have had us winning matches by now not labouring to dreadful home defeats. After a week or two of feeling a small ember of recovery I now feel pessimistic and desperate again. We have relegation form at the moment and I would like someone to explain how Berg will change it. It feels like yet another ridiculous cheap gamble that is going wrong. DanBlackburn
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1:21pm Thu 29 Nov 12

peely says...

katrew wrote:
Hennng was a great player for the club but his record as a manger was and is very poor. Tthe genius Shebby who took over a month to find the "right man" asking for patience - what a joke. The "right man" for Venky's was someone who was not in a contract to another club so they didn't have to pay any compensation and someone who was foolish enough to come to the club without any backroom staff of his own to keep costs down by utilising Black and Hendry. So Venky's plan as always with the club is The Cheapskate Option. Nobody who supports the club can really have any doubts about that. Every decision they have taken in respect of Rovers has been bad from sacking Big Sam to hanging on to Kean to employing Singh, Shaw, Hendry to selling a lot of quality players and replacing them by and large with inferior ones. Poor old Henning is on a hiding to nothing and it won't get better nay time soon.
Spot on comments , always the cheapest option for the chicken pluckers , hence the situation we,re now in . I always feared Berg might be a yes man and desperate for a job along with this Malaysian TV expert now running or should say ruining the club I really fear for Rovers future. Until there,s a complete clear out things won't get any better , but don't hold your breath, there,s too many on the gravy train and until it hits the buffers nothing will happen! Oh to be able to put the clock back a few years !
[quote][p][bold]katrew[/bold] wrote: Hennng was a great player for the club but his record as a manger was and is very poor. Tthe genius Shebby who took over a month to find the "right man" asking for patience - what a joke. The "right man" for Venky's was someone who was not in a contract to another club so they didn't have to pay any compensation and someone who was foolish enough to come to the club without any backroom staff of his own to keep costs down by utilising Black and Hendry. So Venky's plan as always with the club is The Cheapskate Option. Nobody who supports the club can really have any doubts about that. Every decision they have taken in respect of Rovers has been bad from sacking Big Sam to hanging on to Kean to employing Singh, Shaw, Hendry to selling a lot of quality players and replacing them by and large with inferior ones. Poor old Henning is on a hiding to nothing and it won't get better nay time soon.[/p][/quote]Spot on comments , always the cheapest option for the chicken pluckers , hence the situation we,re now in . I always feared Berg might be a yes man and desperate for a job along with this Malaysian TV expert now running or should say ruining the club I really fear for Rovers future. Until there,s a complete clear out things won't get any better , but don't hold your breath, there,s too many on the gravy train and until it hits the buffers nothing will happen! Oh to be able to put the clock back a few years ! peely
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1:36pm Thu 29 Nov 12

Harwoodstblue says...

1952 rover wrote:
StLedge wrote:
1952 rover wrote:
Sorry but he has to go NOW.
Shut up you prat!
So pray tell me what he has done to get your full support PRATT. You have your opinion and i will have mine. He should never have got the job in the first place. Same old Venky's the cheapest option.
Which makes you think again....Are they in it for footballing reasons or is it something else.
[quote][p][bold]1952 rover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]StLedge[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]1952 rover[/bold] wrote: Sorry but he has to go NOW.[/p][/quote]Shut up you prat![/p][/quote]So pray tell me what he has done to get your full support PRATT. You have your opinion and i will have mine. He should never have got the job in the first place. Same old Venky's the cheapest option.[/p][/quote]Which makes you think again....Are they in it for footballing reasons or is it something else. Harwoodstblue
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1:44pm Thu 29 Nov 12

Harwoodstblue says...

owd nick wrote:
Ronaldpetercooper wrote:
J.C - Rishton wrote:
Henning - Here's a tip - football is a simple game - GOOD PLAYERS make GOOD TEAMS and BAD PLAYERS make BAD TEAMS ! So with that basic truism in mind - STOP PICKING CR@P PLAYERS, match after match !!!!! We all know its a terrible squad but don't make your job even harder than it already is by picking total dross (DM, DE, MF) every week whilst leaving better (well at least competantly profesional, BETTER players on the bench - GG, MGP, SV, CCR, NG etc etc). If you do not or cannot understand or IMPLEMENT this single basic managerial point then there is NO FUTURE for you as a football manager and your tenure as BFRC manager is going to be very short and not very sweet ! So come on Henning - we are all behind you but you have to start doing your job to a basic, competant level, preferably on Sunday !
Hi JC Once again spot on I to am baffled by team selection. I am bored with saying it but our midfield is hopeless and frankly has not been up to scratch for some time. There is absolutely no future in continuing to select Etuhu, Murphy, Rochina. Formica together as they are not good enough, don't fight for the ball and canot play as a unit. We desperately need a yard dog in midfield with a bite and pace. The team currently being selected is just not good enough and will definitely NOT get promoted. We will need to get rid of a lot of this lot in Jan and buy a couple of midfielders.
What is the reason for Simon Vuchevic not being given a chance.
Agreed, every team we have met at home so far knows our midfield isn't up to it so press them into mistakes every time they have the ball, its like taking candy off babies.

Strange we have scored more goals away from home, and only lost one game so far, could that have something to do with the strange sort of negative attitude at Ewood?

Lowe must start on Sunday even if its just to give some protection to the defence which has had none at all for the last two games.

Pedersen has to start because without him we don't have a single player who can take free kicks or corners, even flaming throw ins.

I am not a great fan of Kazim Richards only because I am not convinced he is a team player, but he has to start because he is experienced, has pace can hold up and head a ball.

As far as Berg is concerned we have to give him a chance irrespective of what happens Sunday because these are not his players, he's doing what he can with a miss mash of fancy dan footballers who really don't have the heart to play for this club.

Keans crap need to be paid off and shipped out as soon as possible.

The transfer window and what happens after is Bergs chance to show what he can do.

If he fails, or isn't supported as promised then that will be it for me, I am not going to continue paying good money for season tickets and sitting there watching second rate dross like that while freezing my gonads off much longer.

This is my 40th season as a Rovers fan, 20+ of them as a ST holder, hopefully it isn't my last.
Well said and there are a lot of others, I know, who feel exactly the same way.
[quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ronaldpetercooper[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J.C - Rishton[/bold] wrote: Henning - Here's a tip - football is a simple game - GOOD PLAYERS make GOOD TEAMS and BAD PLAYERS make BAD TEAMS ! So with that basic truism in mind - STOP PICKING CR@P PLAYERS, match after match !!!!! We all know its a terrible squad but don't make your job even harder than it already is by picking total dross (DM, DE, MF) every week whilst leaving better (well at least competantly profesional, BETTER players on the bench - GG, MGP, SV, CCR, NG etc etc). If you do not or cannot understand or IMPLEMENT this single basic managerial point then there is NO FUTURE for you as a football manager and your tenure as BFRC manager is going to be very short and not very sweet ! So come on Henning - we are all behind you but you have to start doing your job to a basic, competant level, preferably on Sunday ![/p][/quote]Hi JC Once again spot on I to am baffled by team selection. I am bored with saying it but our midfield is hopeless and frankly has not been up to scratch for some time. There is absolutely no future in continuing to select Etuhu, Murphy, Rochina. Formica together as they are not good enough, don't fight for the ball and canot play as a unit. We desperately need a yard dog in midfield with a bite and pace. The team currently being selected is just not good enough and will definitely NOT get promoted. We will need to get rid of a lot of this lot in Jan and buy a couple of midfielders. What is the reason for Simon Vuchevic not being given a chance.[/p][/quote]Agreed, every team we have met at home so far knows our midfield isn't up to it so press them into mistakes every time they have the ball, its like taking candy off babies. Strange we have scored more goals away from home, and only lost one game so far, could that have something to do with the strange sort of negative attitude at Ewood? Lowe must start on Sunday even if its just to give some protection to the defence which has had none at all for the last two games. Pedersen has to start because without him we don't have a single player who can take free kicks or corners, even flaming throw ins. I am not a great fan of Kazim Richards only because I am not convinced he is a team player, but he has to start because he is experienced, has pace can hold up and head a ball. As far as Berg is concerned we have to give him a chance irrespective of what happens Sunday because these are not his players, he's doing what he can with a miss mash of fancy dan footballers who really don't have the heart to play for this club. Keans crap need to be paid off and shipped out as soon as possible. The transfer window and what happens after is Bergs chance to show what he can do. If he fails, or isn't supported as promised then that will be it for me, I am not going to continue paying good money for season tickets and sitting there watching second rate dross like that while freezing my gonads off much longer. This is my 40th season as a Rovers fan, 20+ of them as a ST holder, hopefully it isn't my last.[/p][/quote]Well said and there are a lot of others, I know, who feel exactly the same way. Harwoodstblue
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2:57pm Thu 29 Nov 12

Ossy Blue bottle says...

Why the hell is Simon Vuchevic not being given a chance, he looks like the missing ingredient.
He is quick, skilful and even attacks the opposition immediately when in possession (unlike backward passing Murphy) and more importantly gets stuck in.
(Something which we are desperately missing )

C'mon Henning sort it out
Why the hell is Simon Vuchevic not being given a chance, he looks like the missing ingredient. He is quick, skilful and even attacks the opposition immediately when in possession (unlike backward passing Murphy) and more importantly gets stuck in. (Something which we are desperately missing ) C'mon Henning sort it out Ossy Blue bottle
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3:09pm Thu 29 Nov 12

CARover says...

Have we gone from the frying pan to the fire? 5 points from 18, something is not working at Ewood

Ice"Bergs" tend to sink ships Sunday is a must win or we will be on the wrong side of the table for comfort

I agree he has inherited some crap players but who is picking the team?
Have we gone from the frying pan to the fire? 5 points from 18, something is not working at Ewood Ice"Bergs" tend to sink ships Sunday is a must win or we will be on the wrong side of the table for comfort I agree he has inherited some crap players but who is picking the team? CARover
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3:27pm Thu 29 Nov 12

MxMave says...

Russ ov the rovers wrote:
We was rubbish! We only started playing when Kazim- Richards came on he showed hunger and will. It's simply not good enough geez we where better under Black! Play like that Sunday then we can kiss our 34 year record goodbye.
CKR was hungry? He was fresh... everyone else was tired...

And still he couldnt get a decent touch on the ball. Alright he got an assist for the goal but the guy has ZERO ball skills, he gets his head to the ball and fluffs it and shoots from 40 yards.... he dosen't ever deserve to play for Rovers and yet I can see him starting on Sunday because Berg and 90% of the Rovers fans thought he made an impact on Wednesday night.

Fact of the matter is, WE NEED 2 UPFRONT. The fact that CKR looked good when he came on was only down to the fact that we were crying out for a player in that position.

Totally unnerved by Berg's subs. We went 2-0 down and he took off Etuhu and put Lowe on?!?! I was really expecting a formation shift at that point, retaining Ruben and adding to the strike force.
Can someone please tell Ruben that:

A) He is not Messi
B) He stands about a 5% chance of beating a man
C) He cant shoot from 40 yards
D) Try to pass to Rhodes instead of trying to be the hero CONSTANTLY.
[quote][p][bold]Russ ov the rovers[/bold] wrote: We was rubbish! We only started playing when Kazim- Richards came on he showed hunger and will. It's simply not good enough geez we where better under Black! Play like that Sunday then we can kiss our 34 year record goodbye.[/p][/quote]CKR was hungry? He was fresh... everyone else was tired... And still he couldnt get a decent touch on the ball. Alright he got an assist for the goal but the guy has ZERO ball skills, he gets his head to the ball and fluffs it and shoots from 40 yards.... he dosen't ever deserve to play for Rovers and yet I can see him starting on Sunday because Berg and 90% of the Rovers fans thought he made an impact on Wednesday night. Fact of the matter is, WE NEED 2 UPFRONT. The fact that CKR looked good when he came on was only down to the fact that we were crying out for a player in that position. Totally unnerved by Berg's subs. We went 2-0 down and he took off Etuhu and put Lowe on?!?! I was really expecting a formation shift at that point, retaining Ruben and adding to the strike force. Can someone please tell Ruben that: A) He is not Messi B) He stands about a 5% chance of beating a man C) He cant shoot from 40 yards D) Try to pass to Rhodes instead of trying to be the hero CONSTANTLY. MxMave
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3:27pm Thu 29 Nov 12

MxMave says...

Russ ov the rovers wrote:
We was rubbish! We only started playing when Kazim- Richards came on he showed hunger and will. It's simply not good enough geez we where better under Black! Play like that Sunday then we can kiss our 34 year record goodbye.
CKR was hungry? He was fresh... everyone else was tired...

And still he couldnt get a decent touch on the ball. Alright he got an assist for the goal but the guy has ZERO ball skills, he gets his head to the ball and fluffs it and shoots from 40 yards.... he dosen't ever deserve to play for Rovers and yet I can see him starting on Sunday because Berg and 90% of the Rovers fans thought he made an impact on Wednesday night.

Fact of the matter is, WE NEED 2 UPFRONT. The fact that CKR looked good when he came on was only down to the fact that we were crying out for a player in that position.

Totally unnerved by Berg's subs. We went 2-0 down and he took off Etuhu and put Lowe on?!?! I was really expecting a formation shift at that point, retaining Ruben and adding to the strike force.
Can someone please tell Ruben that:

A) He is not Messi
B) He stands about a 5% chance of beating a man
C) He cant shoot from 40 yards
D) Try to pass to Rhodes instead of trying to be the hero CONSTANTLY.
[quote][p][bold]Russ ov the rovers[/bold] wrote: We was rubbish! We only started playing when Kazim- Richards came on he showed hunger and will. It's simply not good enough geez we where better under Black! Play like that Sunday then we can kiss our 34 year record goodbye.[/p][/quote]CKR was hungry? He was fresh... everyone else was tired... And still he couldnt get a decent touch on the ball. Alright he got an assist for the goal but the guy has ZERO ball skills, he gets his head to the ball and fluffs it and shoots from 40 yards.... he dosen't ever deserve to play for Rovers and yet I can see him starting on Sunday because Berg and 90% of the Rovers fans thought he made an impact on Wednesday night. Fact of the matter is, WE NEED 2 UPFRONT. The fact that CKR looked good when he came on was only down to the fact that we were crying out for a player in that position. Totally unnerved by Berg's subs. We went 2-0 down and he took off Etuhu and put Lowe on?!?! I was really expecting a formation shift at that point, retaining Ruben and adding to the strike force. Can someone please tell Ruben that: A) He is not Messi B) He stands about a 5% chance of beating a man C) He cant shoot from 40 yards D) Try to pass to Rhodes instead of trying to be the hero CONSTANTLY. MxMave
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4:10pm Thu 29 Nov 12

penrithrover says...

Kermit The Frog wrote:
Ok so judging by this thread it appears to be the following who are to blame for Blackburn's demise:

Steve Kean
Venkys
Shebby Singh
Henning Berg
Colin Hendry
Eric Black
Danny Murphy
Dixon Etuhu

You guys rival the micky mousers for the ability to blame everyone.

BOTB
STEVE KEAN BROUGHT INTO ROVERS BLACK HIS DRUNKEN VIOLENT WOMEN BEATER,, DRINK DRIVER, PAL COLIN "BULLYBOY" HENDRY , ALSO STEVE KEAN BROUGHT INTO ROVERS ETUHU AND MURPHY , SINGH AUTHORISED EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE CONTRACTS , SO THE BUCK STOPS WITH SINGH THE MAIN MAN , SINGH WHO KNOWS F**CK ALL ABOUT PROPER FOOTBALL ,, THE GLORY SEEKER , IT TOOK HIM 6 WEEKS TO GET THE BEST MAN FOR THE JOB. !!!!! THE GUY A CLOWN.

Y
[quote][p][bold]Kermit The Frog[/bold] wrote: Ok so judging by this thread it appears to be the following who are to blame for Blackburn's demise: Steve Kean Venkys Shebby Singh Henning Berg Colin Hendry Eric Black Danny Murphy Dixon Etuhu You guys rival the micky mousers for the ability to blame everyone. BOTB[/p][/quote]STEVE KEAN BROUGHT INTO ROVERS BLACK HIS DRUNKEN VIOLENT WOMEN BEATER,, DRINK DRIVER, PAL COLIN "BULLYBOY" HENDRY , ALSO STEVE KEAN BROUGHT INTO ROVERS ETUHU AND MURPHY , SINGH AUTHORISED EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE CONTRACTS , SO THE BUCK STOPS WITH SINGH THE MAIN MAN , SINGH WHO KNOWS F**CK ALL ABOUT PROPER FOOTBALL ,, THE GLORY SEEKER , IT TOOK HIM 6 WEEKS TO GET THE BEST MAN FOR THE JOB. !!!!! THE GUY A CLOWN. Y penrithrover
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4:17pm Thu 29 Nov 12

ChrisDeBerg says...

Ossy Blue bottle wrote:
Why the hell is Simon Vuchevic not being given a chance, he looks like the missing ingredient.
He is quick, skilful and even attacks the opposition immediately when in possession (unlike backward passing Murphy) and more importantly gets stuck in.
(Something which we are desperately missing )

C'mon Henning sort it out
Well my fellow Ossy friend...

I wouldn't say Simon is the missing ingredient to turn us into a winning side, what I would say is that playing him instead of Danny 'I'll get better' Murphy and Dickson 'Where's the ball, oh, in the back of our net' Etuhu would be a good plan... Definitely a starter before either of them.

Kazim might have played well last night to get an assist, is this because Berg told him he'd be dropped if he carried on being greedier than an american in an all you can eat buffet? Or just 1 good performance game out of 10?

We have Gomez, Rochina, King and Kazim... 4 people that should be alongside Rhodes rather than sitting behind him every game... Either a 3-5-2 or a 4-4-2 is needed, preferably a 4-4-2.

I'm far from giving up on Berg, all I'm saying is that a good manager will look back at the last games and make changes accordingly... NOT play the same tactics if the players cant get used to them.

RTID
[quote][p][bold]Ossy Blue bottle[/bold] wrote: Why the hell is Simon Vuchevic not being given a chance, he looks like the missing ingredient. He is quick, skilful and even attacks the opposition immediately when in possession (unlike backward passing Murphy) and more importantly gets stuck in. (Something which we are desperately missing ) C'mon Henning sort it out[/p][/quote]Well my fellow Ossy friend... I wouldn't say Simon is the missing ingredient to turn us into a winning side, what I would say is that playing him instead of Danny 'I'll get better' Murphy and Dickson 'Where's the ball, oh, in the back of our net' Etuhu would be a good plan... Definitely a starter before either of them. Kazim might have played well last night to get an assist, is this because Berg told him he'd be dropped if he carried on being greedier than an american in an all you can eat buffet? Or just 1 good performance game out of 10? We have Gomez, Rochina, King and Kazim... 4 people that should be alongside Rhodes rather than sitting behind him every game... Either a 3-5-2 or a 4-4-2 is needed, preferably a 4-4-2. I'm far from giving up on Berg, all I'm saying is that a good manager will look back at the last games and make changes accordingly... NOT play the same tactics if the players cant get used to them. RTID ChrisDeBerg
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4:29pm Thu 29 Nov 12

noddymcleod says...

First of all, loosing to Burnley is no big deal, maybe you're immature and work or socialise with Burnley fans and have given them a bad time in the past and fear revenge if we lose, but eventually we all have to grow up.
I didn't renew my season ticket like many on here as a token of my distaste for Keano, Venkys and the travesty of a club that Rovers have become.
I thought that Rafael Benitez, Redknapp etc was a silly game for fans with a bit of time on their hands and no sense of reality.
Given who we might of landed, I am quite content that the job went to an outstanding former player who actually cares about Rovers, realising that he has a tough task dealing with one of football most dysfunctional management/owners and is saddled with a foot-in-mouth fool as "global adviser" and poor squad of players lacking any motivation or fitness.
So out of solidarity,I went along for the five pounds deal.
I've been watching Stanley this season and last night against Bolton I saw scarcely the hint of effort as a team, that I see at Stanley every week.
There's a square at the heart of Rovers - Dann and Hanley at the back, Etuhu and Murphy in midfield, who have the combined mobility of a tortoise on a zimmerframe. Dann and Hanley are just clumsy, but try, Etuhu is just clumsy, I never recall anyone so out of place on a football field, he looks like a displaced body builder, or boxer; and Murphy - well , he's past it and is clearly padding out his last big pay cheque for as long as it lasts. Bergo was constantly urging Murphy and Etuhu to press forward and engage the Bolton midfield but might as well been speaking Norwegian.
We're a mini QPR, too many players on good salaries, no interest, no loyalty, not going to be transferred and scarcely bothering.
They need a kick up the backside, Sparky might have done it - though sadly out-of-character he seems to have failed to do so at QPR. 'Arry just might do it for QPR.
My fear is that Bergo - who is surely our last chance - is perhaps too nice a guy, hope I'm wrong.
I can't see Venkys holding - the best solution is that Bergo manages to impose some dignity, but Venkys and rent-a-gob realise there's no future for them and go - then perhaps we can have a fans' buy out.
First of all, loosing to Burnley is no big deal, maybe you're immature and work or socialise with Burnley fans and have given them a bad time in the past and fear revenge if we lose, but eventually we all have to grow up. I didn't renew my season ticket like many on here as a token of my distaste for Keano, Venkys and the travesty of a club that Rovers have become. I thought that Rafael Benitez, Redknapp etc was a silly game for fans with a bit of time on their hands and no sense of reality. Given who we might of landed, I am quite content that the job went to an outstanding former player who actually cares about Rovers, realising that he has a tough task dealing with one of football most dysfunctional management/owners and is saddled with a foot-in-mouth fool as "global adviser" and poor squad of players lacking any motivation or fitness. So out of solidarity,I went along for the five pounds deal. I've been watching Stanley this season and last night against Bolton I saw scarcely the hint of effort as a team, that I see at Stanley every week. There's a square at the heart of Rovers - Dann and Hanley at the back, Etuhu and Murphy in midfield, who have the combined mobility of a tortoise on a zimmerframe. Dann and Hanley are just clumsy, but try, Etuhu is just clumsy, I never recall anyone so out of place on a football field, he looks like a displaced body builder, or boxer; and Murphy - well , he's past it and is clearly padding out his last big pay cheque for as long as it lasts. Bergo was constantly urging Murphy and Etuhu to press forward and engage the Bolton midfield but might as well been speaking Norwegian. We're a mini QPR, too many players on good salaries, no interest, no loyalty, not going to be transferred and scarcely bothering. They need a kick up the backside, Sparky might have done it - though sadly out-of-character he seems to have failed to do so at QPR. 'Arry just might do it for QPR. My fear is that Bergo - who is surely our last chance - is perhaps too nice a guy, hope I'm wrong. I can't see Venkys holding - the best solution is that Bergo manages to impose some dignity, but Venkys and rent-a-gob realise there's no future for them and go - then perhaps we can have a fans' buy out. noddymcleod
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4:48pm Thu 29 Nov 12

penrithrover says...

FOR GOODNESS SAKE .GET RID OF BERG , GET RID OF SINGH ,HE`S A JUST A CLOWN,SINGH IS COMPLETELY MANIPULATED BY HENDRY , POSSIBLY KEEP BLACK IF HE CAN SHUT UP AND JUST GET ON WITH HIS JOB, BRING IN MARK HUGHES THIS WEEK , RIGHT NOW THE ONLY CHANCE WE HAVE THIS SEASON ,IS BY BRINGING IN HUGHES , HE BUILT A GOOD TEAM AT QPR WE WILL EVENTUALLY ALL SEE THAT.
HUGHES MIGHT NOT GET US UP THIS YEAR BUT HE WILL NEXT YEAR.
THE WAY THINGS ARE GOING AT ROVERS WITH BERG AND HENDRY`S HISTORY OF COACHING FOOTBALL TEAMS WE ARE HEADING SOUTH.
FOR GOODNESS SAKE .GET RID OF BERG , GET RID OF SINGH ,HE`S A JUST A CLOWN,SINGH IS COMPLETELY MANIPULATED BY HENDRY , POSSIBLY KEEP BLACK IF HE CAN SHUT UP AND JUST GET ON WITH HIS JOB, BRING IN MARK HUGHES THIS WEEK , RIGHT NOW THE ONLY CHANCE WE HAVE THIS SEASON ,IS BY BRINGING IN HUGHES , HE BUILT A GOOD TEAM AT QPR WE WILL EVENTUALLY ALL SEE THAT. HUGHES MIGHT NOT GET US UP THIS YEAR BUT HE WILL NEXT YEAR. THE WAY THINGS ARE GOING AT ROVERS WITH BERG AND HENDRY`S HISTORY OF COACHING FOOTBALL TEAMS WE ARE HEADING SOUTH. penrithrover
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5:16pm Thu 29 Nov 12

eddie the eagle says...

noddymcleod wrote:
First of all, loosing to Burnley is no big deal, maybe you're immature and work or socialise with Burnley fans and have given them a bad time in the past and fear revenge if we lose, but eventually we all have to grow up. I didn't renew my season ticket like many on here as a token of my distaste for Keano, Venkys and the travesty of a club that Rovers have become. I thought that Rafael Benitez, Redknapp etc was a silly game for fans with a bit of time on their hands and no sense of reality. Given who we might of landed, I am quite content that the job went to an outstanding former player who actually cares about Rovers, realising that he has a tough task dealing with one of football most dysfunctional management/owners and is saddled with a foot-in-mouth fool as "global adviser" and poor squad of players lacking any motivation or fitness. So out of solidarity,I went along for the five pounds deal. I've been watching Stanley this season and last night against Bolton I saw scarcely the hint of effort as a team, that I see at Stanley every week. There's a square at the heart of Rovers - Dann and Hanley at the back, Etuhu and Murphy in midfield, who have the combined mobility of a tortoise on a zimmerframe. Dann and Hanley are just clumsy, but try, Etuhu is just clumsy, I never recall anyone so out of place on a football field, he looks like a displaced body builder, or boxer; and Murphy - well , he's past it and is clearly padding out his last big pay cheque for as long as it lasts. Bergo was constantly urging Murphy and Etuhu to press forward and engage the Bolton midfield but might as well been speaking Norwegian. We're a mini QPR, too many players on good salaries, no interest, no loyalty, not going to be transferred and scarcely bothering. They need a kick up the backside, Sparky might have done it - though sadly out-of-character he seems to have failed to do so at QPR. 'Arry just might do it for QPR. My fear is that Bergo - who is surely our last chance - is perhaps too nice a guy, hope I'm wrong. I can't see Venkys holding - the best solution is that Bergo manages to impose some dignity, but Venkys and rent-a-gob realise there's no future for them and go - then perhaps we can have a fans' buy out.
Great post,good common sense points but I have to differ on the fans buy out ,its pie in the sky and ain't going to happen.
Steve Kean said he had assembled the best squad he'd ever had,Kean was 100% bulls##t,the squad is rubbish.It ain't fit it has no balance how many would be sought aftrer by other teams.I'd like to see Lowe and Martin Ollson in mid field.Ollson showed promise a few seasons ago when Sam played him in the middle and he looks to have a goal in him,he is no full back thats for sure.
I feel sorry for Berg he needs new players but how is he going to get the dross off the payroll.Shambles but a fan buyout is not going to happen.
[quote][p][bold]noddymcleod[/bold] wrote: First of all, loosing to Burnley is no big deal, maybe you're immature and work or socialise with Burnley fans and have given them a bad time in the past and fear revenge if we lose, but eventually we all have to grow up. I didn't renew my season ticket like many on here as a token of my distaste for Keano, Venkys and the travesty of a club that Rovers have become. I thought that Rafael Benitez, Redknapp etc was a silly game for fans with a bit of time on their hands and no sense of reality. Given who we might of landed, I am quite content that the job went to an outstanding former player who actually cares about Rovers, realising that he has a tough task dealing with one of football most dysfunctional management/owners and is saddled with a foot-in-mouth fool as "global adviser" and poor squad of players lacking any motivation or fitness. So out of solidarity,I went along for the five pounds deal. I've been watching Stanley this season and last night against Bolton I saw scarcely the hint of effort as a team, that I see at Stanley every week. There's a square at the heart of Rovers - Dann and Hanley at the back, Etuhu and Murphy in midfield, who have the combined mobility of a tortoise on a zimmerframe. Dann and Hanley are just clumsy, but try, Etuhu is just clumsy, I never recall anyone so out of place on a football field, he looks like a displaced body builder, or boxer; and Murphy - well , he's past it and is clearly padding out his last big pay cheque for as long as it lasts. Bergo was constantly urging Murphy and Etuhu to press forward and engage the Bolton midfield but might as well been speaking Norwegian. We're a mini QPR, too many players on good salaries, no interest, no loyalty, not going to be transferred and scarcely bothering. They need a kick up the backside, Sparky might have done it - though sadly out-of-character he seems to have failed to do so at QPR. 'Arry just might do it for QPR. My fear is that Bergo - who is surely our last chance - is perhaps too nice a guy, hope I'm wrong. I can't see Venkys holding - the best solution is that Bergo manages to impose some dignity, but Venkys and rent-a-gob realise there's no future for them and go - then perhaps we can have a fans' buy out.[/p][/quote]Great post,good common sense points but I have to differ on the fans buy out ,its pie in the sky and ain't going to happen. Steve Kean said he had assembled the best squad he'd ever had,Kean was 100% bulls##t,the squad is rubbish.It ain't fit it has no balance how many would be sought aftrer by other teams.I'd like to see Lowe and Martin Ollson in mid field.Ollson showed promise a few seasons ago when Sam played him in the middle and he looks to have a goal in him,he is no full back thats for sure. I feel sorry for Berg he needs new players but how is he going to get the dross off the payroll.Shambles but a fan buyout is not going to happen. eddie the eagle
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5:21pm Thu 29 Nov 12

willhelmrover98 says...

PLEASE, PLEASE, i am begging you henning berg PLEASE play 2 UPFRONT ON SUNDAY. and if not on sunday because its 'away' PLEASE every HOME game this season play Kazim along side untill Leon Best is fit.
when we are playing with one upfront and rochina behind, make sure he sticks on jordans arse. and every time Rochina drops back, you bollock him henning!
WHT IS THE POINT OF HAVING AN £8 MILLION MAN IF HE CANT TOUCH THE BALL?! he is our only chance this season. so please i am BEGGING you Henning. 4 4 2 pleaseeeee
PLEASE, PLEASE, i am begging you henning berg PLEASE play 2 UPFRONT ON SUNDAY. and if not on sunday because its 'away' PLEASE every HOME game this season play Kazim along side untill Leon Best is fit. when we are playing with one upfront and rochina behind, make sure he sticks on jordans arse. and every time Rochina drops back, you bollock him henning! WHT IS THE POINT OF HAVING AN £8 MILLION MAN IF HE CANT TOUCH THE BALL?! he is our only chance this season. so please i am BEGGING you Henning. 4 4 2 pleaseeeee willhelmrover98
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5:47pm Thu 29 Nov 12

dangerous dave says...

'penrithrover' - dont agree with your comments about Hughes but certainly do with the rest. I have said it all along after being told many good experienced Managers had applied for the Rovers vacancy we went for the cheap, inexperienced option - yes sold 'down the river' with the idiot Shabby Shebby and as for the likes of Murphy, Etuhu, Black and Hendry get them out of the club ASAP - Keans cronies not doing one bit of good for the club even though they are on big bucks!!!!
Messrs Shaw Agnew Singh and Venkeys have a lot to answer for - the club's future is certainly in the balance and for those fans with short memories the latest set of results equaling 5 points out of possible 18 should tell them what a mess we are in!!
OUT WITH SHAW AGNEW SINGH BLACK HENDRY VENKEYS
'penrithrover' - dont agree with your comments about Hughes but certainly do with the rest. I have said it all along after being told many good experienced Managers had applied for the Rovers vacancy we went for the cheap, inexperienced option - yes sold 'down the river' with the idiot Shabby Shebby and as for the likes of Murphy, Etuhu, Black and Hendry get them out of the club ASAP - Keans cronies not doing one bit of good for the club even though they are on big bucks!!!! Messrs Shaw Agnew Singh and Venkeys have a lot to answer for - the club's future is certainly in the balance and for those fans with short memories the latest set of results equaling 5 points out of possible 18 should tell them what a mess we are in!! OUT WITH SHAW AGNEW SINGH BLACK HENDRY VENKEYS dangerous dave
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6:31pm Thu 29 Nov 12

Captain Dreckley says...

What we are seeing is the legacy that Kean left us with. This squad is the product of two years of mismanagement by Kean. Berg can only work with the players he has, this isn't his squad and he had no say in who came and went in the transfer window. So all those talking about Berg out get real. Don't judge the man until he gets the players in the squad not a set of Keans hangers on. What the game showed last night was a total lack of leadership and creativity on the park, just like last year under Kean, but why expect different from Keans squad. Get off Bergs back and judge him after he has brought in his own people if Venkys back him. Last time we were in this position, Souness took time to sort the squad and the same will apply to Berg. It's only a month to January and the window opening so let's hope for a major clear out and some leadership, creativity and passion brought in.
What we are seeing is the legacy that Kean left us with. This squad is the product of two years of mismanagement by Kean. Berg can only work with the players he has, this isn't his squad and he had no say in who came and went in the transfer window. So all those talking about Berg out get real. Don't judge the man until he gets the players in the squad not a set of Keans hangers on. What the game showed last night was a total lack of leadership and creativity on the park, just like last year under Kean, but why expect different from Keans squad. Get off Bergs back and judge him after he has brought in his own people if Venkys back him. Last time we were in this position, Souness took time to sort the squad and the same will apply to Berg. It's only a month to January and the window opening so let's hope for a major clear out and some leadership, creativity and passion brought in. Captain Dreckley
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7:06pm Thu 29 Nov 12

diamonds2india says...

StLedge wrote:
1952 rover wrote: Sorry but he has to go NOW.
Shut up you prat!
Hi Colin...Berg's making you a few quid of Jack's legacy isn't he?? Bet you're laughing at Jack aren't you!! Getting your own back whilst making good money.
[quote][p][bold]StLedge[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]1952 rover[/bold] wrote: Sorry but he has to go NOW.[/p][/quote]Shut up you prat![/p][/quote]Hi Colin...Berg's making you a few quid of Jack's legacy isn't he?? Bet you're laughing at Jack aren't you!! Getting your own back whilst making good money. diamonds2india
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7:08pm Thu 29 Nov 12

diamonds2india says...

Captain Dreckley wrote:
What we are seeing is the legacy that Kean left us with. This squad is the product of two years of mismanagement by Kean. Berg can only work with the players he has, this isn't his squad and he had no say in who came and went in the transfer window. So all those talking about Berg out get real. Don't judge the man until he gets the players in the squad not a set of Keans hangers on. What the game showed last night was a total lack of leadership and creativity on the park, just like last year under Kean, but why expect different from Keans squad. Get off Bergs back and judge him after he has brought in his own people if Venkys back him. Last time we were in this position, Souness took time to sort the squad and the same will apply to Berg. It's only a month to January and the window opening so let's hope for a major clear out and some leadership, creativity and passion brought in.
Yes....lots of new players in from Kentaro's Portugese branch to make lots of lovely commission for the syndicate....
[quote][p][bold]Captain Dreckley[/bold] wrote: What we are seeing is the legacy that Kean left us with. This squad is the product of two years of mismanagement by Kean. Berg can only work with the players he has, this isn't his squad and he had no say in who came and went in the transfer window. So all those talking about Berg out get real. Don't judge the man until he gets the players in the squad not a set of Keans hangers on. What the game showed last night was a total lack of leadership and creativity on the park, just like last year under Kean, but why expect different from Keans squad. Get off Bergs back and judge him after he has brought in his own people if Venkys back him. Last time we were in this position, Souness took time to sort the squad and the same will apply to Berg. It's only a month to January and the window opening so let's hope for a major clear out and some leadership, creativity and passion brought in.[/p][/quote]Yes....lots of new players in from Kentaro's Portugese branch to make lots of lovely commission for the syndicate.... diamonds2india
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7:12pm Thu 29 Nov 12

diamonds2india says...

So what's the deal then?? Come and sign for us fellas and do nothing for 4 years...all you have to do is pay a sizeable chunk of your weekly wage in commission. Are they actually living over here permanently or just appear now and again for effect?? Anyone checked??
So what's the deal then?? Come and sign for us fellas and do nothing for 4 years...all you have to do is pay a sizeable chunk of your weekly wage in commission. Are they actually living over here permanently or just appear now and again for effect?? Anyone checked?? diamonds2india
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7:28pm Thu 29 Nov 12

Harwoodstblue says...

diamonds2india wrote:
Captain Dreckley wrote:
What we are seeing is the legacy that Kean left us with. This squad is the product of two years of mismanagement by Kean. Berg can only work with the players he has, this isn't his squad and he had no say in who came and went in the transfer window. So all those talking about Berg out get real. Don't judge the man until he gets the players in the squad not a set of Keans hangers on. What the game showed last night was a total lack of leadership and creativity on the park, just like last year under Kean, but why expect different from Keans squad. Get off Bergs back and judge him after he has brought in his own people if Venkys back him. Last time we were in this position, Souness took time to sort the squad and the same will apply to Berg. It's only a month to January and the window opening so let's hope for a major clear out and some leadership, creativity and passion brought in.
Yes....lots of new players in from Kentaro's Portugese branch to make lots of lovely commission for the syndicate....
You can't take this guy seriously. He can't even spell Portuguese.
[quote][p][bold]diamonds2india[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Captain Dreckley[/bold] wrote: What we are seeing is the legacy that Kean left us with. This squad is the product of two years of mismanagement by Kean. Berg can only work with the players he has, this isn't his squad and he had no say in who came and went in the transfer window. So all those talking about Berg out get real. Don't judge the man until he gets the players in the squad not a set of Keans hangers on. What the game showed last night was a total lack of leadership and creativity on the park, just like last year under Kean, but why expect different from Keans squad. Get off Bergs back and judge him after he has brought in his own people if Venkys back him. Last time we were in this position, Souness took time to sort the squad and the same will apply to Berg. It's only a month to January and the window opening so let's hope for a major clear out and some leadership, creativity and passion brought in.[/p][/quote]Yes....lots of new players in from Kentaro's Portugese branch to make lots of lovely commission for the syndicate....[/p][/quote]You can't take this guy seriously. He can't even spell Portuguese. Harwoodstblue
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7:55pm Thu 29 Nov 12

Agent Berg says...

Agent Berg to Dingles, Agent Berg to Dingles, come in burnleyglentoran.

Shebby is picking the team this weekend. Repeat. Shebby is picking the team this weekend.

Expect a loss first time in 34 years. I say again. Expect a loss
Agent Berg to Dingles, Agent Berg to Dingles, come in burnleyglentoran. Shebby is picking the team this weekend. Repeat. Shebby is picking the team this weekend. Expect a loss first time in 34 years. I say again. Expect a loss Agent Berg
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8:03pm Thu 29 Nov 12

Hovis1945 says...

Wednesday night was embarrassing. For goodness sake these guys are supposed to be professinal footballers! No matter who the manager is giving the ball away, mis-placed passing, no fight, no conviction, no pride are just a few of the ingredients of a poor team. Whisper it loudly is SS picking the team?
Wednesday night was embarrassing. For goodness sake these guys are supposed to be professinal footballers! No matter who the manager is giving the ball away, mis-placed passing, no fight, no conviction, no pride are just a few of the ingredients of a poor team. Whisper it loudly is SS picking the team? Hovis1945
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8:30pm Thu 29 Nov 12

Bazzer says...

eddie the eagle wrote:
noddymcleod wrote: First of all, loosing to Burnley is no big deal, maybe you're immature and work or socialise with Burnley fans and have given them a bad time in the past and fear revenge if we lose, but eventually we all have to grow up. I didn't renew my season ticket like many on here as a token of my distaste for Keano, Venkys and the travesty of a club that Rovers have become. I thought that Rafael Benitez, Redknapp etc was a silly game for fans with a bit of time on their hands and no sense of reality. Given who we might of landed, I am quite content that the job went to an outstanding former player who actually cares about Rovers, realising that he has a tough task dealing with one of football most dysfunctional management/owners and is saddled with a foot-in-mouth fool as "global adviser" and poor squad of players lacking any motivation or fitness. So out of solidarity,I went along for the five pounds deal. I've been watching Stanley this season and last night against Bolton I saw scarcely the hint of effort as a team, that I see at Stanley every week. There's a square at the heart of Rovers - Dann and Hanley at the back, Etuhu and Murphy in midfield, who have the combined mobility of a tortoise on a zimmerframe. Dann and Hanley are just clumsy, but try, Etuhu is just clumsy, I never recall anyone so out of place on a football field, he looks like a displaced body builder, or boxer; and Murphy - well , he's past it and is clearly padding out his last big pay cheque for as long as it lasts. Bergo was constantly urging Murphy and Etuhu to press forward and engage the Bolton midfield but might as well been speaking Norwegian. We're a mini QPR, too many players on good salaries, no interest, no loyalty, not going to be transferred and scarcely bothering. They need a kick up the backside, Sparky might have done it - though sadly out-of-character he seems to have failed to do so at QPR. 'Arry just might do it for QPR. My fear is that Bergo - who is surely our last chance - is perhaps too nice a guy, hope I'm wrong. I can't see Venkys holding - the best solution is that Bergo manages to impose some dignity, but Venkys and rent-a-gob realise there's no future for them and go - then perhaps we can have a fans' buy out.
Great post,good common sense points but I have to differ on the fans buy out ,its pie in the sky and ain't going to happen. Steve Kean said he had assembled the best squad he'd ever had,Kean was 100% bulls##t,the squad is rubbish.It ain't fit it has no balance how many would be sought aftrer by other teams.I'd like to see Lowe and Martin Ollson in mid field.Ollson showed promise a few seasons ago when Sam played him in the middle and he looks to have a goal in him,he is no full back thats for sure. I feel sorry for Berg he needs new players but how is he going to get the dross off the payroll.Shambles but a fan buyout is not going to happen.
And if a fans buy out did occur then we can surely look to division 4, or whatever they call it now.
[quote][p][bold]eddie the eagle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]noddymcleod[/bold] wrote: First of all, loosing to Burnley is no big deal, maybe you're immature and work or socialise with Burnley fans and have given them a bad time in the past and fear revenge if we lose, but eventually we all have to grow up. I didn't renew my season ticket like many on here as a token of my distaste for Keano, Venkys and the travesty of a club that Rovers have become. I thought that Rafael Benitez, Redknapp etc was a silly game for fans with a bit of time on their hands and no sense of reality. Given who we might of landed, I am quite content that the job went to an outstanding former player who actually cares about Rovers, realising that he has a tough task dealing with one of football most dysfunctional management/owners and is saddled with a foot-in-mouth fool as "global adviser" and poor squad of players lacking any motivation or fitness. So out of solidarity,I went along for the five pounds deal. I've been watching Stanley this season and last night against Bolton I saw scarcely the hint of effort as a team, that I see at Stanley every week. There's a square at the heart of Rovers - Dann and Hanley at the back, Etuhu and Murphy in midfield, who have the combined mobility of a tortoise on a zimmerframe. Dann and Hanley are just clumsy, but try, Etuhu is just clumsy, I never recall anyone so out of place on a football field, he looks like a displaced body builder, or boxer; and Murphy - well , he's past it and is clearly padding out his last big pay cheque for as long as it lasts. Bergo was constantly urging Murphy and Etuhu to press forward and engage the Bolton midfield but might as well been speaking Norwegian. We're a mini QPR, too many players on good salaries, no interest, no loyalty, not going to be transferred and scarcely bothering. They need a kick up the backside, Sparky might have done it - though sadly out-of-character he seems to have failed to do so at QPR. 'Arry just might do it for QPR. My fear is that Bergo - who is surely our last chance - is perhaps too nice a guy, hope I'm wrong. I can't see Venkys holding - the best solution is that Bergo manages to impose some dignity, but Venkys and rent-a-gob realise there's no future for them and go - then perhaps we can have a fans' buy out.[/p][/quote]Great post,good common sense points but I have to differ on the fans buy out ,its pie in the sky and ain't going to happen. Steve Kean said he had assembled the best squad he'd ever had,Kean was 100% bulls##t,the squad is rubbish.It ain't fit it has no balance how many would be sought aftrer by other teams.I'd like to see Lowe and Martin Ollson in mid field.Ollson showed promise a few seasons ago when Sam played him in the middle and he looks to have a goal in him,he is no full back thats for sure. I feel sorry for Berg he needs new players but how is he going to get the dross off the payroll.Shambles but a fan buyout is not going to happen.[/p][/quote]And if a fans buy out did occur then we can surely look to division 4, or whatever they call it now. Bazzer
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9:07pm Thu 29 Nov 12

happiness says...

'a change in fortune'?? Why not a change in attitude instead? Come on, let's be realistic and truthful; last night and to a slightly lesser extent on Saturday, we capitulated as a team. Hanley and Dann are average at best and all too often a liability. Ollsen, in my opinion should be stuck out on the wing or stuck in the reserves. He is terrible at fullback and gets beaten and overrun time and time again. Murphy? One decent game for 80 mins since signing and yet again last night, off the pace, passing back too often and tackled far too easily. Etuhu only marginally better. Robinson? is it just me who thinks that he might need a spell in the reserves to re-focus? His kicking is poor, one or two decent saves but three or four he should have held and annoyingly, choosing to punch poorly instead of catching. Not fit to lace Friedel's boots in my opinion. We are becoming poor without the ball and even worse with it. Nobody wanted the ball last night. Far to many passes were poor. Our main threat seems to be players trying to beat 4 or 5 players themselves and trying to shoot. And Rhodes? So criminally isolated last night, even more than Saturday. Playing with him on his own up fromt away from home, maybe, but at home it's not acceptable, negative and most annoyingly, IT ISN'T WORKING!!!
'a change in fortune'?? Why not a change in attitude instead? Come on, let's be realistic and truthful; last night and to a slightly lesser extent on Saturday, we capitulated as a team. Hanley and Dann are average at best and all too often a liability. Ollsen, in my opinion should be stuck out on the wing or stuck in the reserves. He is terrible at fullback and gets beaten and overrun time and time again. Murphy? One decent game for 80 mins since signing and yet again last night, off the pace, passing back too often and tackled far too easily. Etuhu only marginally better. Robinson? is it just me who thinks that he might need a spell in the reserves to re-focus? His kicking is poor, one or two decent saves but three or four he should have held and annoyingly, choosing to punch poorly instead of catching. Not fit to lace Friedel's boots in my opinion. We are becoming poor without the ball and even worse with it. Nobody wanted the ball last night. Far to many passes were poor. Our main threat seems to be players trying to beat 4 or 5 players themselves and trying to shoot. And Rhodes? So criminally isolated last night, even more than Saturday. Playing with him on his own up fromt away from home, maybe, but at home it's not acceptable, negative and most annoyingly, IT ISN'T WORKING!!! happiness
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9:28pm Thu 29 Nov 12

Dr Zinc says...

I am very worried by what I saw last night
There is so much wrong I don’t know where to start
How can a manager persist with the same system and players after a 0-2 home defeat?
Berg changed nothing apart from bringing in King who is new to the squad with little experience
The system does not work! Etuhu and Murphy do not work!
Formica cannot play on the right and Dann and Hanley are not our best centre halves
The whole set up is wrong, what the hell do they do all week?
Why has Berg not brought in his own coaching staff?
Nothing has changed apart from SK leaving (not sacked)
The whole setup is full of failures; there are no winners at the club
Make Givet captain he is the only one with any balls, bring in Vukavic and MGP
And play Richards up front (im far from a fan but he looked more effective than King)
The club is a wreck, with Black, Hendry, Singh and as much as I want Berg to succeed his credentials are hardly inspiring
Venkys are the problem, the buck stops at the top, I mean what is the transfer policy?
Who the hell bought all those Portuguese players? Where are they?
The only people I can see doing well from the club are agents!
I am very worried by what I saw last night There is so much wrong I don’t know where to start How can a manager persist with the same system and players after a 0-2 home defeat? Berg changed nothing apart from bringing in King who is new to the squad with little experience The system does not work! Etuhu and Murphy do not work! Formica cannot play on the right and Dann and Hanley are not our best centre halves The whole set up is wrong, what the hell do they do all week? Why has Berg not brought in his own coaching staff? Nothing has changed apart from SK leaving (not sacked) The whole setup is full of failures; there are no winners at the club Make Givet captain he is the only one with any balls, bring in Vukavic and MGP And play Richards up front (im far from a fan but he looked more effective than King) The club is a wreck, with Black, Hendry, Singh and as much as I want Berg to succeed his credentials are hardly inspiring Venkys are the problem, the buck stops at the top, I mean what is the transfer policy? Who the hell bought all those Portuguese players? Where are they? The only people I can see doing well from the club are agents! Dr Zinc
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10:19pm Thu 29 Nov 12

Harwoodstblue says...

Hovis1945 wrote:
Wednesday night was embarrassing. For goodness sake these guys are supposed to be professinal footballers! No matter who the manager is giving the ball away, mis-placed passing, no fight, no conviction, no pride are just a few of the ingredients of a poor team. Whisper it loudly is SS picking the team?
YES.
[quote][p][bold]Hovis1945[/bold] wrote: Wednesday night was embarrassing. For goodness sake these guys are supposed to be professinal footballers! No matter who the manager is giving the ball away, mis-placed passing, no fight, no conviction, no pride are just a few of the ingredients of a poor team. Whisper it loudly is SS picking the team?[/p][/quote]YES. Harwoodstblue
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10:54pm Thu 29 Nov 12

Harwoodstblue says...

Harwoodstblue wrote:
Hovis1945 wrote:
Wednesday night was embarrassing. For goodness sake these guys are supposed to be professinal footballers! No matter who the manager is giving the ball away, mis-placed passing, no fight, no conviction, no pride are just a few of the ingredients of a poor team. Whisper it loudly is SS picking the team?
YES.
And it's all gone pear shaped.

That's why he's keeping so Fickin quiet.
[quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hovis1945[/bold] wrote: Wednesday night was embarrassing. For goodness sake these guys are supposed to be professinal footballers! No matter who the manager is giving the ball away, mis-placed passing, no fight, no conviction, no pride are just a few of the ingredients of a poor team. Whisper it loudly is SS picking the team?[/p][/quote]YES.[/p][/quote]And it's all gone pear shaped. That's why he's keeping so Fickin quiet. Harwoodstblue
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3:07am Fri 30 Nov 12

diamonds2india says...

Harwoodstblue wrote:
diamonds2india wrote:
Captain Dreckley wrote: What we are seeing is the legacy that Kean left us with. This squad is the product of two years of mismanagement by Kean. Berg can only work with the players he has, this isn't his squad and he had no say in who came and went in the transfer window. So all those talking about Berg out get real. Don't judge the man until he gets the players in the squad not a set of Keans hangers on. What the game showed last night was a total lack of leadership and creativity on the park, just like last year under Kean, but why expect different from Keans squad. Get off Bergs back and judge him after he has brought in his own people if Venkys back him. Last time we were in this position, Souness took time to sort the squad and the same will apply to Berg. It's only a month to January and the window opening so let's hope for a major clear out and some leadership, creativity and passion brought in.
Yes....lots of new players in from Kentaro's Portugese branch to make lots of lovely commission for the syndicate....
You can't take this guy seriously. He can't even spell Portuguese.
Well done David...you found your spell checker useful.
.
Berg states he's "disappointed with pain of defeat"...but with a paltry 7 points out of his last 48 possible, you'd think he would have got accustomed to losing by now!
.
Sorry David..FACTS DO NOT LIE!! Did you make a few quid on Sam's sacking as well as the Spurs game btw?? (nice little wink at the bench on the way off - all went to plan with the no shots on target bet). What about the last couple of games? Place any bets along with your pals?? Odds must have been pretty good I would imagine..
[quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]diamonds2india[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Captain Dreckley[/bold] wrote: What we are seeing is the legacy that Kean left us with. This squad is the product of two years of mismanagement by Kean. Berg can only work with the players he has, this isn't his squad and he had no say in who came and went in the transfer window. So all those talking about Berg out get real. Don't judge the man until he gets the players in the squad not a set of Keans hangers on. What the game showed last night was a total lack of leadership and creativity on the park, just like last year under Kean, but why expect different from Keans squad. Get off Bergs back and judge him after he has brought in his own people if Venkys back him. Last time we were in this position, Souness took time to sort the squad and the same will apply to Berg. It's only a month to January and the window opening so let's hope for a major clear out and some leadership, creativity and passion brought in.[/p][/quote]Yes....lots of new players in from Kentaro's Portugese branch to make lots of lovely commission for the syndicate....[/p][/quote]You can't take this guy seriously. He can't even spell Portuguese.[/p][/quote]Well done David...you found your spell checker useful. . Berg states he's "disappointed with pain of defeat"...but with a paltry 7 points out of his last 48 possible, you'd think he would have got accustomed to losing by now! . Sorry David..FACTS DO NOT LIE!! Did you make a few quid on Sam's sacking as well as the Spurs game btw?? (nice little wink at the bench on the way off - all went to plan with the no shots on target bet). What about the last couple of games? Place any bets along with your pals?? Odds must have been pretty good I would imagine.. diamonds2india
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3:22am Fri 30 Nov 12

diamonds2india says...

Surprised nobody else found it suspicious that you publicly gave your backing to Kean as well as appear in chicken commercials, plus Venky's rumoured to be buying your house and contacting season ticket holders etc etc. You were giving your all for the new regime...but then again, you are part of it aren't you?? Along with "Morst" and "French Rover". That's right isn't it? Are you not ashamed?? What about your pal Andy Cryer?? What's happened to him?? Funny how he and Hendry appear on Talksport often...as does Jerome Anderson. Isn't it about time you took steps to save the club you supposedly love....apart from dragging it down and making money from it??
Surprised nobody else found it suspicious that you publicly gave your backing to Kean as well as appear in chicken commercials, plus Venky's rumoured to be buying your house and contacting season ticket holders etc etc. You were giving your all for the new regime...but then again, you are part of it aren't you?? Along with "Morst" and "French Rover". That's right isn't it? Are you not ashamed?? What about your pal Andy Cryer?? What's happened to him?? Funny how he and Hendry appear on Talksport often...as does Jerome Anderson. Isn't it about time you took steps to save the club you supposedly love....apart from dragging it down and making money from it?? diamonds2india
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8:15am Fri 30 Nov 12

bring back the good old days says...

noddymcleod wrote:
First of all, loosing to Burnley is no big deal, maybe you're immature and work or socialise with Burnley fans and have given them a bad time in the past and fear revenge if we lose, but eventually we all have to grow up.
I didn't renew my season ticket like many on here as a token of my distaste for Keano, Venkys and the travesty of a club that Rovers have become.
I thought that Rafael Benitez, Redknapp etc was a silly game for fans with a bit of time on their hands and no sense of reality.
Given who we might of landed, I am quite content that the job went to an outstanding former player who actually cares about Rovers, realising that he has a tough task dealing with one of football most dysfunctional management/owners and is saddled with a foot-in-mouth fool as "global adviser" and poor squad of players lacking any motivation or fitness.
So out of solidarity,I went along for the five pounds deal.
I've been watching Stanley this season and last night against Bolton I saw scarcely the hint of effort as a team, that I see at Stanley every week.
There's a square at the heart of Rovers - Dann and Hanley at the back, Etuhu and Murphy in midfield, who have the combined mobility of a tortoise on a zimmerframe. Dann and Hanley are just clumsy, but try, Etuhu is just clumsy, I never recall anyone so out of place on a football field, he looks like a displaced body builder, or boxer; and Murphy - well , he's past it and is clearly padding out his last big pay cheque for as long as it lasts. Bergo was constantly urging Murphy and Etuhu to press forward and engage the Bolton midfield but might as well been speaking Norwegian.
We're a mini QPR, too many players on good salaries, no interest, no loyalty, not going to be transferred and scarcely bothering.
They need a kick up the backside, Sparky might have done it - though sadly out-of-character he seems to have failed to do so at QPR. 'Arry just might do it for QPR.
My fear is that Bergo - who is surely our last chance - is perhaps too nice a guy, hope I'm wrong.
I can't see Venkys holding - the best solution is that Bergo manages to impose some dignity, but Venkys and rent-a-gob realise there's no future for them and go - then perhaps we can have a fans' buy out.
As usual we see eye to eye.
No passion, no leadership. Legacy of SK.

Mid is worst I can remember for many a year. One word - hopeless!
Just picking up pay cheques.
How to get rid - no idea, maybe impossible.
Centre backs, yes individually trying, but as a partnership ??? It needs a experienced figurehead/leader.
Centre mid is crying out for a energetic orchestrator to dictate play, DM? maybe 3-4 yrs ago. It also needs some steel and teeth (I feel Lowe is the closest we have to that at pres. and plays like he cares).
Is Shebbs involved in team sheet? I seriously, seriously hope not. Is HB not being allowed to bring in his own staff ? Ditto. Has he agreed to try and make a fist of only what he has inherited? Ditto.
Dont care what anybody says, but buck stops with Venkys, they are clueless.
[quote][p][bold]noddymcleod[/bold] wrote: First of all, loosing to Burnley is no big deal, maybe you're immature and work or socialise with Burnley fans and have given them a bad time in the past and fear revenge if we lose, but eventually we all have to grow up. I didn't renew my season ticket like many on here as a token of my distaste for Keano, Venkys and the travesty of a club that Rovers have become. I thought that Rafael Benitez, Redknapp etc was a silly game for fans with a bit of time on their hands and no sense of reality. Given who we might of landed, I am quite content that the job went to an outstanding former player who actually cares about Rovers, realising that he has a tough task dealing with one of football most dysfunctional management/owners and is saddled with a foot-in-mouth fool as "global adviser" and poor squad of players lacking any motivation or fitness. So out of solidarity,I went along for the five pounds deal. I've been watching Stanley this season and last night against Bolton I saw scarcely the hint of effort as a team, that I see at Stanley every week. There's a square at the heart of Rovers - Dann and Hanley at the back, Etuhu and Murphy in midfield, who have the combined mobility of a tortoise on a zimmerframe. Dann and Hanley are just clumsy, but try, Etuhu is just clumsy, I never recall anyone so out of place on a football field, he looks like a displaced body builder, or boxer; and Murphy - well , he's past it and is clearly padding out his last big pay cheque for as long as it lasts. Bergo was constantly urging Murphy and Etuhu to press forward and engage the Bolton midfield but might as well been speaking Norwegian. We're a mini QPR, too many players on good salaries, no interest, no loyalty, not going to be transferred and scarcely bothering. They need a kick up the backside, Sparky might have done it - though sadly out-of-character he seems to have failed to do so at QPR. 'Arry just might do it for QPR. My fear is that Bergo - who is surely our last chance - is perhaps too nice a guy, hope I'm wrong. I can't see Venkys holding - the best solution is that Bergo manages to impose some dignity, but Venkys and rent-a-gob realise there's no future for them and go - then perhaps we can have a fans' buy out.[/p][/quote]As usual we see eye to eye. No passion, no leadership. Legacy of SK. Mid is worst I can remember for many a year. One word - hopeless! Just picking up pay cheques. How to get rid - no idea, maybe impossible. Centre backs, yes individually trying, but as a partnership ??? It needs a experienced figurehead/leader. Centre mid is crying out for a energetic orchestrator to dictate play, DM? maybe 3-4 yrs ago. It also needs some steel and teeth (I feel Lowe is the closest we have to that at pres. and plays like he cares). Is Shebbs involved in team sheet? I seriously, seriously hope not. Is HB not being allowed to bring in his own staff ? Ditto. Has he agreed to try and make a fist of only what he has inherited? Ditto. Dont care what anybody says, but buck stops with Venkys, they are clueless. bring back the good old days
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10:05am Fri 30 Nov 12

Harwoodstblue says...

diamonds2india wrote:
Harwoodstblue wrote:
diamonds2india wrote:
Captain Dreckley wrote: What we are seeing is the legacy that Kean left us with. This squad is the product of two years of mismanagement by Kean. Berg can only work with the players he has, this isn't his squad and he had no say in who came and went in the transfer window. So all those talking about Berg out get real. Don't judge the man until he gets the players in the squad not a set of Keans hangers on. What the game showed last night was a total lack of leadership and creativity on the park, just like last year under Kean, but why expect different from Keans squad. Get off Bergs back and judge him after he has brought in his own people if Venkys back him. Last time we were in this position, Souness took time to sort the squad and the same will apply to Berg. It's only a month to January and the window opening so let's hope for a major clear out and some leadership, creativity and passion brought in.
Yes....lots of new players in from Kentaro's Portugese branch to make lots of lovely commission for the syndicate....
You can't take this guy seriously. He can't even spell Portuguese.
Well done David...you found your spell checker useful.
.
Berg states he's "disappointed with pain of defeat"...but with a paltry 7 points out of his last 48 possible, you'd think he would have got accustomed to losing by now!
.
Sorry David..FACTS DO NOT LIE!! Did you make a few quid on Sam's sacking as well as the Spurs game btw?? (nice little wink at the bench on the way off - all went to plan with the no shots on target bet). What about the last couple of games? Place any bets along with your pals?? Odds must have been pretty good I would imagine..
Yes...Yes and Yes.
[quote][p][bold]diamonds2india[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]diamonds2india[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Captain Dreckley[/bold] wrote: What we are seeing is the legacy that Kean left us with. This squad is the product of two years of mismanagement by Kean. Berg can only work with the players he has, this isn't his squad and he had no say in who came and went in the transfer window. So all those talking about Berg out get real. Don't judge the man until he gets the players in the squad not a set of Keans hangers on. What the game showed last night was a total lack of leadership and creativity on the park, just like last year under Kean, but why expect different from Keans squad. Get off Bergs back and judge him after he has brought in his own people if Venkys back him. Last time we were in this position, Souness took time to sort the squad and the same will apply to Berg. It's only a month to January and the window opening so let's hope for a major clear out and some leadership, creativity and passion brought in.[/p][/quote]Yes....lots of new players in from Kentaro's Portugese branch to make lots of lovely commission for the syndicate....[/p][/quote]You can't take this guy seriously. He can't even spell Portuguese.[/p][/quote]Well done David...you found your spell checker useful. . Berg states he's "disappointed with pain of defeat"...but with a paltry 7 points out of his last 48 possible, you'd think he would have got accustomed to losing by now! . Sorry David..FACTS DO NOT LIE!! Did you make a few quid on Sam's sacking as well as the Spurs game btw?? (nice little wink at the bench on the way off - all went to plan with the no shots on target bet). What about the last couple of games? Place any bets along with your pals?? Odds must have been pretty good I would imagine..[/p][/quote]Yes...Yes and Yes. Harwoodstblue
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10:07am Fri 30 Nov 12

Harwoodstblue says...

diamonds2india wrote:
Surprised nobody else found it suspicious that you publicly gave your backing to Kean as well as appear in chicken commercials, plus Venky's rumoured to be buying your house and contacting season ticket holders etc etc. You were giving your all for the new regime...but then again, you are part of it aren't you?? Along with "Morst" and "French Rover". That's right isn't it? Are you not ashamed?? What about your pal Andy Cryer?? What's happened to him?? Funny how he and Hendry appear on Talksport often...as does Jerome Anderson. Isn't it about time you took steps to save the club you supposedly love....apart from dragging it down and making money from it??
Yes....No....Don't know.......Yes.
[quote][p][bold]diamonds2india[/bold] wrote: Surprised nobody else found it suspicious that you publicly gave your backing to Kean as well as appear in chicken commercials, plus Venky's rumoured to be buying your house and contacting season ticket holders etc etc. You were giving your all for the new regime...but then again, you are part of it aren't you?? Along with "Morst" and "French Rover". That's right isn't it? Are you not ashamed?? What about your pal Andy Cryer?? What's happened to him?? Funny how he and Hendry appear on Talksport often...as does Jerome Anderson. Isn't it about time you took steps to save the club you supposedly love....apart from dragging it down and making money from it??[/p][/quote]Yes....No....Don't know.......Yes. Harwoodstblue
  • Score: 0

10:12am Fri 30 Nov 12

Harwoodstblue says...

bring back the good old days wrote:
noddymcleod wrote:
First of all, loosing to Burnley is no big deal, maybe you're immature and work or socialise with Burnley fans and have given them a bad time in the past and fear revenge if we lose, but eventually we all have to grow up.
I didn't renew my season ticket like many on here as a token of my distaste for Keano, Venkys and the travesty of a club that Rovers have become.
I thought that Rafael Benitez, Redknapp etc was a silly game for fans with a bit of time on their hands and no sense of reality.
Given who we might of landed, I am quite content that the job went to an outstanding former player who actually cares about Rovers, realising that he has a tough task dealing with one of football most dysfunctional management/owners and is saddled with a foot-in-mouth fool as "global adviser" and poor squad of players lacking any motivation or fitness.
So out of solidarity,I went along for the five pounds deal.
I've been watching Stanley this season and last night against Bolton I saw scarcely the hint of effort as a team, that I see at Stanley every week.
There's a square at the heart of Rovers - Dann and Hanley at the back, Etuhu and Murphy in midfield, who have the combined mobility of a tortoise on a zimmerframe. Dann and Hanley are just clumsy, but try, Etuhu is just clumsy, I never recall anyone so out of place on a football field, he looks like a displaced body builder, or boxer; and Murphy - well , he's past it and is clearly padding out his last big pay cheque for as long as it lasts. Bergo was constantly urging Murphy and Etuhu to press forward and engage the Bolton midfield but might as well been speaking Norwegian.
We're a mini QPR, too many players on good salaries, no interest, no loyalty, not going to be transferred and scarcely bothering.
They need a kick up the backside, Sparky might have done it - though sadly out-of-character he seems to have failed to do so at QPR. 'Arry just might do it for QPR.
My fear is that Bergo - who is surely our last chance - is perhaps too nice a guy, hope I'm wrong.
I can't see Venkys holding - the best solution is that Bergo manages to impose some dignity, but Venkys and rent-a-gob realise there's no future for them and go - then perhaps we can have a fans' buy out.
As usual we see eye to eye.
No passion, no leadership. Legacy of SK.

Mid is worst I can remember for many a year. One word - hopeless!
Just picking up pay cheques.
How to get rid - no idea, maybe impossible.
Centre backs, yes individually trying, but as a partnership ??? It needs a experienced figurehead/leader.
Centre mid is crying out for a energetic orchestrator to dictate play, DM? maybe 3-4 yrs ago. It also needs some steel and teeth (I feel Lowe is the closest we have to that at pres. and plays like he cares).
Is Shebbs involved in team sheet? I seriously, seriously hope not. Is HB not being allowed to bring in his own staff ? Ditto. Has he agreed to try and make a fist of only what he has inherited? Ditto.
Dont care what anybody says, but buck stops with Venkys, they are clueless.
Clueless and anonymous. We all have a go at Singh, but isn't he only doing what the Loons from Pune are telling him to do? They are the ones responsible for the utter shambles.
[quote][p][bold]bring back the good old days[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]noddymcleod[/bold] wrote: First of all, loosing to Burnley is no big deal, maybe you're immature and work or socialise with Burnley fans and have given them a bad time in the past and fear revenge if we lose, but eventually we all have to grow up. I didn't renew my season ticket like many on here as a token of my distaste for Keano, Venkys and the travesty of a club that Rovers have become. I thought that Rafael Benitez, Redknapp etc was a silly game for fans with a bit of time on their hands and no sense of reality. Given who we might of landed, I am quite content that the job went to an outstanding former player who actually cares about Rovers, realising that he has a tough task dealing with one of football most dysfunctional management/owners and is saddled with a foot-in-mouth fool as "global adviser" and poor squad of players lacking any motivation or fitness. So out of solidarity,I went along for the five pounds deal. I've been watching Stanley this season and last night against Bolton I saw scarcely the hint of effort as a team, that I see at Stanley every week. There's a square at the heart of Rovers - Dann and Hanley at the back, Etuhu and Murphy in midfield, who have the combined mobility of a tortoise on a zimmerframe. Dann and Hanley are just clumsy, but try, Etuhu is just clumsy, I never recall anyone so out of place on a football field, he looks like a displaced body builder, or boxer; and Murphy - well , he's past it and is clearly padding out his last big pay cheque for as long as it lasts. Bergo was constantly urging Murphy and Etuhu to press forward and engage the Bolton midfield but might as well been speaking Norwegian. We're a mini QPR, too many players on good salaries, no interest, no loyalty, not going to be transferred and scarcely bothering. They need a kick up the backside, Sparky might have done it - though sadly out-of-character he seems to have failed to do so at QPR. 'Arry just might do it for QPR. My fear is that Bergo - who is surely our last chance - is perhaps too nice a guy, hope I'm wrong. I can't see Venkys holding - the best solution is that Bergo manages to impose some dignity, but Venkys and rent-a-gob realise there's no future for them and go - then perhaps we can have a fans' buy out.[/p][/quote]As usual we see eye to eye. No passion, no leadership. Legacy of SK. Mid is worst I can remember for many a year. One word - hopeless! Just picking up pay cheques. How to get rid - no idea, maybe impossible. Centre backs, yes individually trying, but as a partnership ??? It needs a experienced figurehead/leader. Centre mid is crying out for a energetic orchestrator to dictate play, DM? maybe 3-4 yrs ago. It also needs some steel and teeth (I feel Lowe is the closest we have to that at pres. and plays like he cares). Is Shebbs involved in team sheet? I seriously, seriously hope not. Is HB not being allowed to bring in his own staff ? Ditto. Has he agreed to try and make a fist of only what he has inherited? Ditto. Dont care what anybody says, but buck stops with Venkys, they are clueless.[/p][/quote]Clueless and anonymous. We all have a go at Singh, but isn't he only doing what the Loons from Pune are telling him to do? They are the ones responsible for the utter shambles. Harwoodstblue
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10:30am Fri 30 Nov 12

fanny_tickler. says...

French Rover wrote:
Fair play - but no points....

I will gladly settle for some unfair play and bookings and and anything really as long as we get the three points come Sunday.
Desperation.
[quote][p][bold]French Rover[/bold] wrote: Fair play - but no points.... I will gladly settle for some unfair play and bookings and and anything really as long as we get the three points come Sunday.[/p][/quote]Desperation. fanny_tickler.
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10:32am Fri 30 Nov 12

fanny_tickler. says...

StLedge wrote:
1952 rover wrote:
Sorry but he has to go NOW.
Shut up you prat!
BERG OUT!
[quote][p][bold]StLedge[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]1952 rover[/bold] wrote: Sorry but he has to go NOW.[/p][/quote]Shut up you prat![/p][/quote]BERG OUT! fanny_tickler.
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