Berg: Blackburn Rovers were hit by a spot of ref justice

First published in Sport Lancashire Telegraph: Photograph of the Author by , Sports Editor

Rovers boss Henning Berg was left to rue a controversial refereeing decision as Millwall took three points at Ewood Park.

Referee Eddie Ilderton pulled play back for a Rovers free kick for a foul on Mauro Formica when Jordan Rhodes was bearing down on goal in the first half.

And while it was far from certain that Rovers’ leading scorer would take the chance, Berg believed it was a huge turning point in the 2-0 defeat.

“It is a clear free kick for us on the half way line,” he said. “A good referee will keep his cool he will just wait and see what happens and if he had done that and held it for a second or two he would have seen it was an advantage for us to play on but he didn’t.

“Of course it is a game with small margins and small details and that could change a game and that could have been it.

“But we lost 2-0 and there were other things we could have done better in terms of defending and in terms of attacking. That was one of the incidents that happened but we are not looking only to that one.”

And Berg believes his side could have prevented both goals, despite the finishes being of the highest quality.

He added: With the first goal, he doesn’t have to get the ball in that position, we could have defended better early on, but as soon as he shoots it’s difficult to stop. It’s a fantastic strike.

“Second goal, we lose the ball in central midfield and again they get a shooting opportunity, which they took well. The biggest difference between the teams today was maybe shooting ability.”

Berg added that he was pleased with the commitment of his Rovers side, even if they lacked prowess in the final third.

“The effort was there, just lacked a bit of extra quality,” he said. “Everyone tried their best, and that is what we expect “We played against a team who is on a good run in the league and it showed.

“They were a difficult team to play against, they were well organised, they have done well in being unbeaten for 11 games, that tells you that they are high in confidence and they play well together.

“The striker (Wood) looked a really good player and I think if West Brom hadn’t done as well as they have recently then they would have called him back.

“Some games you don’t get it, you know, for different reasons; not 100 per cent in the quality, or teams are defending well. but then you need that it to go your way – when the ball drops for you in the box or when you shoot and it goes in, instead of hitting the goalkeeper but we didn’t have that.”

Millwall boss Kenny Jackett also believed Blackburn could consider themselves unfortunate not to come away with something from the game.

“In the first half we caused them lots of problems and perhaps surprised them but I did think we needed a lead and something to hang on to going into the second half,” said Jackett who has seen his side rise into the top six thanks to an 11-game unbeaten run.

“At the start of the second half, Blackburn were excellent.

“They moved the ball ffrom the back very well and our goalkeeper made a couple of very good saves.

“We had a bit of luck at the right time, came through it and got two very good goals at the end.”

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1:31pm Mon 26 Nov 12

FCBurnley says...

Winge winge moan moan. Typical Wover
Winge winge moan moan. Typical Wover FCBurnley
  • Score: -20

2:05pm Mon 26 Nov 12

merlinrabbit says...

FCBurnley wrote:
Winge winge moan moan. Typical Wover
Id say typical Dingle. First to comment on their rival football team. You've obviously forgot that your own manager moaned to the FA about a red card for Trippier handballing and it was turned down. What plonker you lot are.
[quote][p][bold]FCBurnley[/bold] wrote: Winge winge moan moan. Typical Wover[/p][/quote]Id say typical Dingle. First to comment on their rival football team. You've obviously forgot that your own manager moaned to the FA about a red card for Trippier handballing and it was turned down. What plonker you lot are. merlinrabbit
  • Score: 10

2:22pm Mon 26 Nov 12

bluerob says...

honest comments from HB, I'm liking this guy and I think we will do well given time.
honest comments from HB, I'm liking this guy and I think we will do well given time. bluerob
  • Score: 5

2:40pm Mon 26 Nov 12

ghost of sceptic says...

FCBurnley wrote:
Winge winge moan moan. Typical Wover
A week is a very long time in football. Gloat while you can.
[quote][p][bold]FCBurnley[/bold] wrote: Winge winge moan moan. Typical Wover[/p][/quote]A week is a very long time in football. Gloat while you can. ghost of sceptic
  • Score: 7

3:06pm Mon 26 Nov 12

MxMave says...

I think we have to face facts that:

A) We arnt getting promoted via automatic spots
B) Berg is a medicore manager (still 10000% better than Kean)
C) Half the team needs clearing out if we are to be promoted

For me there are a lot of players in our playing team who arnt good enough. Either they arnt ready yet or never will be good enough.

Marcus Ollson - final ball/ball control is not good enough
Grant Hanley - not solid enough yet
Rochina - we can't rely on this man every game. With our current tactics, if Ruben has an off day then we loose.
Adam Henley - probably not ready yet, he got skinned several times vs Millwall.

In January we need to bring in players to replace these (even if we just loan Rochina, Hanley, Henley out).
- A new LB would be great, then Ollson could play down the left wing.
- A CB is a MUST for January if Givet is no longer considered a first teamer.
- A pacey/tricky winger/CAM

With the current squad i think Vucevic/Formica and King on either wing is the best way to go. Fabio Nunez and Marcus Ollson can't cross to save thier lives.
I think we have to face facts that: A) We arnt getting promoted via automatic spots B) Berg is a medicore manager (still 10000% better than Kean) C) Half the team needs clearing out if we are to be promoted For me there are a lot of players in our playing team who arnt good enough. Either they arnt ready yet or never will be good enough. Marcus Ollson - final ball/ball control is not good enough Grant Hanley - not solid enough yet Rochina - we can't rely on this man every game. With our current tactics, if Ruben has an off day then we loose. Adam Henley - probably not ready yet, he got skinned several times vs Millwall. In January we need to bring in players to replace these (even if we just loan Rochina, Hanley, Henley out). - A new LB would be great, then Ollson could play down the left wing. - A CB is a MUST for January if Givet is no longer considered a first teamer. - A pacey/tricky winger/CAM With the current squad i think Vucevic/Formica and King on either wing is the best way to go. Fabio Nunez and Marcus Ollson can't cross to save thier lives. MxMave
  • Score: 2

3:37pm Mon 26 Nov 12

dangerous dave says...

Mr Berg - sounding more like Kean with every statement he makes - just accept that on the day Rovers were rubbish and the score could have been much worse -
midfield non existant and defense hesitave with every move - so please no more excuses 1 win in 5 not such a good start - get shut of Keans cronies which include Black and especially Hendry along with big bucks Murphy & Co.
OUT WITH SHAW AGNEW SINGH BLACK HENDRY VENKEYS
Mr Berg - sounding more like Kean with every statement he makes - just accept that on the day Rovers were rubbish and the score could have been much worse - midfield non existant and defense hesitave with every move - so please no more excuses 1 win in 5 not such a good start - get shut of Keans cronies which include Black and especially Hendry along with big bucks Murphy & Co. OUT WITH SHAW AGNEW SINGH BLACK HENDRY VENKEYS dangerous dave
  • Score: 1

3:39pm Mon 26 Nov 12

blueblooded says...

FCBurnley wrote:
Winge winge moan moan. Typical Wover
what you bellyaching bout now, Free Chlamydia?
[quote][p][bold]FCBurnley[/bold] wrote: Winge winge moan moan. Typical Wover[/p][/quote]what you bellyaching bout now, Free Chlamydia? blueblooded
  • Score: 3

3:40pm Mon 26 Nov 12

blueblooded says...

dangerous dave wrote:
Mr Berg - sounding more like Kean with every statement he makes - just accept that on the day Rovers were rubbish and the score could have been much worse -
midfield non existant and defense hesitave with every move - so please no more excuses 1 win in 5 not such a good start - get shut of Keans cronies which include Black and especially Hendry along with big bucks Murphy & Co.
OUT WITH SHAW AGNEW SINGH BLACK HENDRY VENKEYS
and you werent there to see it.

Dangerous Droll Dave Out
[quote][p][bold]dangerous dave[/bold] wrote: Mr Berg - sounding more like Kean with every statement he makes - just accept that on the day Rovers were rubbish and the score could have been much worse - midfield non existant and defense hesitave with every move - so please no more excuses 1 win in 5 not such a good start - get shut of Keans cronies which include Black and especially Hendry along with big bucks Murphy & Co. OUT WITH SHAW AGNEW SINGH BLACK HENDRY VENKEYS[/p][/quote]and you werent there to see it. Dangerous Droll Dave Out blueblooded
  • Score: 1

3:49pm Mon 26 Nov 12

dangerous dave says...

blueblooded - with comments like yours its obvious 'that a legend in your eyes' is a totally different view to a legend in most others - no scruples eh!!!
OUT WITH SHAW AGNEW SINGH BLACK HENDRY VENKEYS
blueblooded - with comments like yours its obvious 'that a legend in your eyes' is a totally different view to a legend in most others - no scruples eh!!! OUT WITH SHAW AGNEW SINGH BLACK HENDRY VENKEYS dangerous dave
  • Score: 0

4:07pm Mon 26 Nov 12

jackmetickler says...

oh no.... hes starting it now.

For christ sake the y had 3 goals disallowed.... hardly a bad ref.

no excuses.... beat the dingles ... end of
oh no.... hes starting it now. For christ sake the y had 3 goals disallowed.... hardly a bad ref. no excuses.... beat the dingles ... end of jackmetickler
  • Score: 2

4:32pm Mon 26 Nov 12

Iiii1111 says...

Henning, we were beaten by a better team..the form team of the division, not the most skilful of teams but a team that works for one another and play to thier strengths.......hope
fully you picked up on that and from now on you get the team playing to our strengths....meaning (1) stop isolating Rhoades, paying out 8m for a proven goalscorer and then letting him do the donkey work is just stupid,bring someone in alongside for that job freeing him up(we don't score we don't win)

(2)one sitting midfield player is enough for any team,surely there's a creative central midfield player at the club capable of making killer passes feeding Rhoades, if not, obviously priority number one on the transfer front......maybe raid HTFC again !

(3) the current central defenders together are not a unit and lack an understanding(&quali
ty) one of them besides Givet would be an improvement...your choice which one to drop

(4) this might get me a few thumbs down, but extra training and less pies for Robinson....we should have made Bunn the no1.....
Henning, we were beaten by a better team..the form team of the division, not the most skilful of teams but a team that works for one another and play to thier strengths.......hope fully you picked up on that and from now on you get the team playing to our strengths....meaning (1) stop isolating Rhoades, paying out 8m for a proven goalscorer and then letting him do the donkey work is just stupid,bring someone in alongside for that job freeing him up(we don't score we don't win) (2)one sitting midfield player is enough for any team,surely there's a creative central midfield player at the club capable of making killer passes feeding Rhoades, if not, obviously priority number one on the transfer front......maybe raid HTFC again ! (3) the current central defenders together are not a unit and lack an understanding(&quali ty) one of them besides Givet would be an improvement...your choice which one to drop (4) this might get me a few thumbs down, but extra training and less pies for Robinson....we should have made Bunn the no1..... Iiii1111
  • Score: 7

4:34pm Mon 26 Nov 12

J.C - Rishton says...

bluerob wrote:
honest comments from HB, I'm liking this guy and I think we will do well given time.
Honest comments ?? - he's moaning about a possible free kick we didnt get ON THE HALF WAY LINE !!

If Kean had made this statement we would have all (quite rightly) slated him for it.

HB needs to focus on what he CAN do something about - not moaning about irrelevancies.

What he can do is -

1 - Pick the CORRECT TEAM (Givet, Vukevic, drop Ethuhu etc).

2 - Get them working as hard as Millwall did.

3 - Make his substitutions a bit faster so they could have an impact on the game (SV 7 mins ??).

4 - Keep improving the system he wants to play - one that gets JR involed in the game and with good consistant service.

5 - Work on improving the defense (they havent kept a clean sheet under him yet).

If he starts moaning regularly about irrelevant issues and dosent focus on what he can improve then he simply isnt going to cut it as a manager at this level and aint gonna last long.
[quote][p][bold]bluerob[/bold] wrote: honest comments from HB, I'm liking this guy and I think we will do well given time.[/p][/quote]Honest comments ?? - he's moaning about a possible free kick we didnt get ON THE HALF WAY LINE !! If Kean had made this statement we would have all (quite rightly) slated him for it. HB needs to focus on what he CAN do something about - not moaning about irrelevancies. What he can do is - 1 - Pick the CORRECT TEAM (Givet, Vukevic, drop Ethuhu etc). 2 - Get them working as hard as Millwall did. 3 - Make his substitutions a bit faster so they could have an impact on the game (SV 7 mins ??). 4 - Keep improving the system he wants to play - one that gets JR involed in the game and with good consistant service. 5 - Work on improving the defense (they havent kept a clean sheet under him yet). If he starts moaning regularly about irrelevant issues and dosent focus on what he can improve then he simply isnt going to cut it as a manager at this level and aint gonna last long. J.C - Rishton
  • Score: 1

4:45pm Mon 26 Nov 12

J.C - Rishton says...

MxMave wrote:
I think we have to face facts that:

A) We arnt getting promoted via automatic spots
B) Berg is a medicore manager (still 10000% better than Kean)
C) Half the team needs clearing out if we are to be promoted

For me there are a lot of players in our playing team who arnt good enough. Either they arnt ready yet or never will be good enough.

Marcus Ollson - final ball/ball control is not good enough
Grant Hanley - not solid enough yet
Rochina - we can't rely on this man every game. With our current tactics, if Ruben has an off day then we loose.
Adam Henley - probably not ready yet, he got skinned several times vs Millwall.

In January we need to bring in players to replace these (even if we just loan Rochina, Hanley, Henley out).
- A new LB would be great, then Ollson could play down the left wing.
- A CB is a MUST for January if Givet is no longer considered a first teamer.
- A pacey/tricky winger/CAM

With the current squad i think Vucevic/Formica and King on either wing is the best way to go. Fabio Nunez and Marcus Ollson can't cross to save thier lives.
Although I agree with 99% of what you say I am amazed you havent mentioned our central midfield area where we are so weak its untrue.

Murphy and Etuhu are just not good enough - full stop.

As for SV or Formica - Formica is never a right winger, he's slower than my grandma and adds very little to the team, either offensively or defensively - £3.5m compeltely wasted.

Surely its time for Vukevic to be given a chance - he looks direct, dangerous and comitted every time he comes on then gets dropped for inferior players for the next match.

HB - yes you've inherited a huge mess of a squad and yes you have got some improvement out of them and yes its gonna take a long time to sort out the dross from this squad but the honeymoon is over now and you need to start producing a much harder team to beat and some WINS on the board.
[quote][p][bold]MxMave[/bold] wrote: I think we have to face facts that: A) We arnt getting promoted via automatic spots B) Berg is a medicore manager (still 10000% better than Kean) C) Half the team needs clearing out if we are to be promoted For me there are a lot of players in our playing team who arnt good enough. Either they arnt ready yet or never will be good enough. Marcus Ollson - final ball/ball control is not good enough Grant Hanley - not solid enough yet Rochina - we can't rely on this man every game. With our current tactics, if Ruben has an off day then we loose. Adam Henley - probably not ready yet, he got skinned several times vs Millwall. In January we need to bring in players to replace these (even if we just loan Rochina, Hanley, Henley out). - A new LB would be great, then Ollson could play down the left wing. - A CB is a MUST for January if Givet is no longer considered a first teamer. - A pacey/tricky winger/CAM With the current squad i think Vucevic/Formica and King on either wing is the best way to go. Fabio Nunez and Marcus Ollson can't cross to save thier lives.[/p][/quote]Although I agree with 99% of what you say I am amazed you havent mentioned our central midfield area where we are so weak its untrue. Murphy and Etuhu are just not good enough - full stop. As for SV or Formica - Formica is never a right winger, he's slower than my grandma and adds very little to the team, either offensively or defensively - £3.5m compeltely wasted. Surely its time for Vukevic to be given a chance - he looks direct, dangerous and comitted every time he comes on then gets dropped for inferior players for the next match. HB - yes you've inherited a huge mess of a squad and yes you have got some improvement out of them and yes its gonna take a long time to sort out the dross from this squad but the honeymoon is over now and you need to start producing a much harder team to beat and some WINS on the board. J.C - Rishton
  • Score: 4

4:49pm Mon 26 Nov 12

tootsio11 says...

Oh here we go here come all the moaners back to have a go we lost yes two great strikes by the form team of the league though I agree we should be winning these matches but the championship is a marathon not a sprint berg needs time and no before some idiotic person says "he's had 2 weeks" I mean proper time as in months for people to adopt to his way of thinking his tactics etc look at reading last season they were sat 15th not one person mentioned them half way thru the season about going up then they clicked went 15 unbeaten at the perfect time
So stop all the negative tripe on here and support the team I have a bad feeling that our supporters now are like the Newcastle fans if things aren't great in 2 r 3 games its the managers fault
Oh here we go here come all the moaners back to have a go we lost yes two great strikes by the form team of the league though I agree we should be winning these matches but the championship is a marathon not a sprint berg needs time and no before some idiotic person says "he's had 2 weeks" I mean proper time as in months for people to adopt to his way of thinking his tactics etc look at reading last season they were sat 15th not one person mentioned them half way thru the season about going up then they clicked went 15 unbeaten at the perfect time So stop all the negative tripe on here and support the team I have a bad feeling that our supporters now are like the Newcastle fans if things aren't great in 2 r 3 games its the managers fault tootsio11
  • Score: 3

5:35pm Mon 26 Nov 12

stick to football says...

Said it before - we neerd time to rebuild this team so that it can win promotion and sustain itself in the Premiership - Rovers are some way away from that.

That is not to say that we cant learn from poor decisions in the interim. Good to have stability and continuity in the team if it is working - Peterborough were poor Millwall were not but that is when a Manager earns his corn. Decisions do not often change games and the one here didnt

Roll on Wednesday and let us see a rejuvenated Rovers playing and scoring
Said it before - we neerd time to rebuild this team so that it can win promotion and sustain itself in the Premiership - Rovers are some way away from that. That is not to say that we cant learn from poor decisions in the interim. Good to have stability and continuity in the team if it is working - Peterborough were poor Millwall were not but that is when a Manager earns his corn. Decisions do not often change games and the one here didnt Roll on Wednesday and let us see a rejuvenated Rovers playing and scoring stick to football
  • Score: 1

6:13pm Mon 26 Nov 12

owd nick says...

blueblooded wrote:
dangerous dave wrote:
Mr Berg - sounding more like Kean with every statement he makes - just accept that on the day Rovers were rubbish and the score could have been much worse -
midfield non existant and defense hesitave with every move - so please no more excuses 1 win in 5 not such a good start - get shut of Keans cronies which include Black and especially Hendry along with big bucks Murphy & Co.
OUT WITH SHAW AGNEW SINGH BLACK HENDRY VENKEYS
and you werent there to see it.

Dangerous Droll Dave Out
Seconded, he's a bigger clown than Kean
[quote][p][bold]blueblooded[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dangerous dave[/bold] wrote: Mr Berg - sounding more like Kean with every statement he makes - just accept that on the day Rovers were rubbish and the score could have been much worse - midfield non existant and defense hesitave with every move - so please no more excuses 1 win in 5 not such a good start - get shut of Keans cronies which include Black and especially Hendry along with big bucks Murphy & Co. OUT WITH SHAW AGNEW SINGH BLACK HENDRY VENKEYS[/p][/quote]and you werent there to see it. Dangerous Droll Dave Out[/p][/quote]Seconded, he's a bigger clown than Kean owd nick
  • Score: 2

6:17pm Mon 26 Nov 12

French Rover says...

HB has the perfect opportunity to win ALL the fans support with Bolton and Burnley next up. Six glorious points at stake from our nearest and dearest rivals and we can expect them all to go to us...Allez les Bleus!
HB has the perfect opportunity to win ALL the fans support with Bolton and Burnley next up. Six glorious points at stake from our nearest and dearest rivals and we can expect them all to go to us...Allez les Bleus! French Rover
  • Score: 1

6:19pm Mon 26 Nov 12

blueblooded says...

dangerous dave wrote:
blueblooded - with comments like yours its obvious 'that a legend in your eyes' is a totally different view to a legend in most others - no scruples eh!!!
OUT WITH SHAW AGNEW SINGH BLACK HENDRY VENKEYS
The legend is Ronnie.. But don't worry about it. You'd be dangerous if you actually had to think Dave.

Oh and the other negative Nancy who is besmirching a hero's name, I don't doubt for a second Hendry has done wrong, what is getting boring is you harping on about it on each and every article as if you could influence any change.

Don't like it? Go and sit outside the gates and protest. Sitting here moaning about someone who couldn't care less about you and your petty vendetta isn't hurting him, it's just tedium and shows your petulance.. Which by judging from your posts is likely not far off the mark.

You have every right to express your dissatisfaction at Henry's employment. But just because you can do it on every article, doesn't mean you should. Telling me to grow up just shows the idiocy of your ridiculous quest.
[quote][p][bold]dangerous dave[/bold] wrote: blueblooded - with comments like yours its obvious 'that a legend in your eyes' is a totally different view to a legend in most others - no scruples eh!!! OUT WITH SHAW AGNEW SINGH BLACK HENDRY VENKEYS[/p][/quote]The legend is Ronnie.. But don't worry about it. You'd be dangerous if you actually had to think Dave. Oh and the other negative Nancy who is besmirching a hero's name, I don't doubt for a second Hendry has done wrong, what is getting boring is you harping on about it on each and every article as if you could influence any change. Don't like it? Go and sit outside the gates and protest. Sitting here moaning about someone who couldn't care less about you and your petty vendetta isn't hurting him, it's just tedium and shows your petulance.. Which by judging from your posts is likely not far off the mark. You have every right to express your dissatisfaction at Henry's employment. But just because you can do it on every article, doesn't mean you should. Telling me to grow up just shows the idiocy of your ridiculous quest. blueblooded
  • Score: 2

6:22pm Mon 26 Nov 12

roverinmanchstr says...

French Rover wrote:
HB has the perfect opportunity to win ALL the fans support with Bolton and Burnley next up. Six glorious points at stake from our nearest and dearest rivals and we can expect them all to go to us...Allez les Bleus!
been on the escargots again!
[quote][p][bold]French Rover[/bold] wrote: HB has the perfect opportunity to win ALL the fans support with Bolton and Burnley next up. Six glorious points at stake from our nearest and dearest rivals and we can expect them all to go to us...Allez les Bleus![/p][/quote]been on the escargots again! roverinmanchstr
  • Score: 0

6:25pm Mon 26 Nov 12

owd nick says...

stick to football wrote:
Said it before - we neerd time to rebuild this team so that it can win promotion and sustain itself in the Premiership - Rovers are some way away from that.

That is not to say that we cant learn from poor decisions in the interim. Good to have stability and continuity in the team if it is working - Peterborough were poor Millwall were not but that is when a Manager earns his corn. Decisions do not often change games and the one here didnt

Roll on Wednesday and let us see a rejuvenated Rovers playing and scoring
Said it before, this is a tough league and after the best part of two years being hammered in the PL Rovers lack confidence and Berg isn't going to create that in a few matches, he needs time and a little luck as well.

People forget there is another team on the pitch every game that actually want to win the game as well.

If we stay in touch of the top 6 until the transfer window opens with a little luck Berg will be able to move some players on and bring his own men in.

Take a look at Millwall, a few weeks ago they were in the bottom 3, they are in a great run, 7 wins out of 8 I think, and are now in the top 6.

Thats the sort of surge we need after Christmas.
[quote][p][bold]stick to football[/bold] wrote: Said it before - we neerd time to rebuild this team so that it can win promotion and sustain itself in the Premiership - Rovers are some way away from that. That is not to say that we cant learn from poor decisions in the interim. Good to have stability and continuity in the team if it is working - Peterborough were poor Millwall were not but that is when a Manager earns his corn. Decisions do not often change games and the one here didnt Roll on Wednesday and let us see a rejuvenated Rovers playing and scoring[/p][/quote]Said it before, this is a tough league and after the best part of two years being hammered in the PL Rovers lack confidence and Berg isn't going to create that in a few matches, he needs time and a little luck as well. People forget there is another team on the pitch every game that actually want to win the game as well. If we stay in touch of the top 6 until the transfer window opens with a little luck Berg will be able to move some players on and bring his own men in. Take a look at Millwall, a few weeks ago they were in the bottom 3, they are in a great run, 7 wins out of 8 I think, and are now in the top 6. Thats the sort of surge we need after Christmas. owd nick
  • Score: 2

6:45pm Mon 26 Nov 12

Babbar Divino says...

If my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle.

Stop making excuses.

Not good enough. Try to be better next time
If my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle. Stop making excuses. Not good enough. Try to be better next time Babbar Divino
  • Score: 2

7:00pm Mon 26 Nov 12

eddyo says...

J.C - Rishton wrote:
bluerob wrote:
honest comments from HB, I'm liking this guy and I think we will do well given time.
Honest comments ?? - he's moaning about a possible free kick we didnt get ON THE HALF WAY LINE !!

If Kean had made this statement we would have all (quite rightly) slated him for it.

HB needs to focus on what he CAN do something about - not moaning about irrelevancies.

What he can do is -

1 - Pick the CORRECT TEAM (Givet, Vukevic, drop Ethuhu etc).

2 - Get them working as hard as Millwall did.

3 - Make his substitutions a bit faster so they could have an impact on the game (SV 7 mins ??).

4 - Keep improving the system he wants to play - one that gets JR involed in the game and with good consistant service.

5 - Work on improving the defense (they havent kept a clean sheet under him yet).

If he starts moaning regularly about irrelevant issues and dosent focus on what he can improve then he simply isnt going to cut it as a manager at this level and aint gonna last long.
HB ain't moaning J.C, you are.
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Given our limited resources we need to improve on the wings if we are to improve service to Rhodes. You are too harsh on Murphy and Ethuhu and to keep hammering them is daft. Who do we have that is better in the centre? Dunn for a half - yes. Lowe? Do me a favour.
*
Talking of which, West Brom have brought out a blow up doll of Woody for Christmas. Get your order in whilst stocks last !!!
[quote][p][bold]J.C - Rishton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bluerob[/bold] wrote: honest comments from HB, I'm liking this guy and I think we will do well given time.[/p][/quote]Honest comments ?? - he's moaning about a possible free kick we didnt get ON THE HALF WAY LINE !! If Kean had made this statement we would have all (quite rightly) slated him for it. HB needs to focus on what he CAN do something about - not moaning about irrelevancies. What he can do is - 1 - Pick the CORRECT TEAM (Givet, Vukevic, drop Ethuhu etc). 2 - Get them working as hard as Millwall did. 3 - Make his substitutions a bit faster so they could have an impact on the game (SV 7 mins ??). 4 - Keep improving the system he wants to play - one that gets JR involed in the game and with good consistant service. 5 - Work on improving the defense (they havent kept a clean sheet under him yet). If he starts moaning regularly about irrelevant issues and dosent focus on what he can improve then he simply isnt going to cut it as a manager at this level and aint gonna last long.[/p][/quote]HB ain't moaning J.C, you are. * Given our limited resources we need to improve on the wings if we are to improve service to Rhodes. You are too harsh on Murphy and Ethuhu and to keep hammering them is daft. Who do we have that is better in the centre? Dunn for a half - yes. Lowe? Do me a favour. * Talking of which, West Brom have brought out a blow up doll of Woody for Christmas. Get your order in whilst stocks last !!! eddyo
  • Score: 1

7:20pm Mon 26 Nov 12

Irish knowledge says...

All this talk of rochina out is crazy. Sure he makes the odd mistake but his willingness to get on the ball and try and make things happen is what we need. Not like Formica who hides and does nothing. I see the main problem we have is our wingers who offer nothing. I'm all for vuk on right and nunes on left.
All this talk of rochina out is crazy. Sure he makes the odd mistake but his willingness to get on the ball and try and make things happen is what we need. Not like Formica who hides and does nothing. I see the main problem we have is our wingers who offer nothing. I'm all for vuk on right and nunes on left. Irish knowledge
  • Score: 2

7:54pm Mon 26 Nov 12

Nurseman says...

The main failing against Millwall was quite clearly in midfield. I am honestly very sorry to say that the performance by Danny Murphy was the worst I have seen by any player at Ewood for a long time . Maybe his legs have gone a bit, but it wasn't his pace that was the main problem. Can't understand why a player of his previous quality... Bugger all that, say it as it is....the man looked half asleep. That game highlighted more than any so far for Berg our obvious weaknesses. It may appear foolish to make a temporary replacement of Danny's role with Vukevic, BUT, at least the guy actually does something on the pitch and knows how to make a good defensive interception when needed.

Please Mr Berg, make this substitution a permanent one until we can get new players
The main failing against Millwall was quite clearly in midfield. I am honestly very sorry to say that the performance by Danny Murphy was the worst I have seen by any player at Ewood for a long time . Maybe his legs have gone a bit, but it wasn't his pace that was the main problem. Can't understand why a player of his previous quality... Bugger all that, say it as it is....the man looked half asleep. That game highlighted more than any so far for Berg our obvious weaknesses. It may appear foolish to make a temporary replacement of Danny's role with Vukevic, BUT, at least the guy actually does something on the pitch and knows how to make a good defensive interception when needed. Please Mr Berg, make this substitution a permanent one until we can get new players Nurseman
  • Score: 3

7:56pm Mon 26 Nov 12

J.C - Rishton says...

Irish knowledge wrote:
All this talk of rochina out is crazy. Sure he makes the odd mistake but his willingness to get on the ball and try and make things happen is what we need. Not like Formica who hides and does nothing. I see the main problem we have is our wingers who offer nothing. I'm all for vuk on right and nunes on left.
Spot on - thats why we're easy to play against - nothing down either flank so if we're gonna create anything its gotta be worked thru the middle by Murphy or RR and with JR playing on his own up front then its like trying to thread the eye of the needle and is very easy to defend again.

Thats (one) of the reasons (in my opinion) why we're such low scorers at home - if we can put, at least 1 good winger on who can put some good ball in from wide (and stay wide) it will add another dimention to our play and also free up a little space thru the centre (MF especially drifts in field and tends to make everything even narrower and therefore more congested.
[quote][p][bold]Irish knowledge[/bold] wrote: All this talk of rochina out is crazy. Sure he makes the odd mistake but his willingness to get on the ball and try and make things happen is what we need. Not like Formica who hides and does nothing. I see the main problem we have is our wingers who offer nothing. I'm all for vuk on right and nunes on left.[/p][/quote]Spot on - thats why we're easy to play against - nothing down either flank so if we're gonna create anything its gotta be worked thru the middle by Murphy or RR and with JR playing on his own up front then its like trying to thread the eye of the needle and is very easy to defend again. Thats (one) of the reasons (in my opinion) why we're such low scorers at home - if we can put, at least 1 good winger on who can put some good ball in from wide (and stay wide) it will add another dimention to our play and also free up a little space thru the centre (MF especially drifts in field and tends to make everything even narrower and therefore more congested. J.C - Rishton
  • Score: 0

8:36pm Mon 26 Nov 12

Harwoodstblue says...

Babbar Divino wrote:
If my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle.

Stop making excuses.

Not good enough. Try to be better next time
Your auntie has and she is.
[quote][p][bold]Babbar Divino[/bold] wrote: If my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle. Stop making excuses. Not good enough. Try to be better next time[/p][/quote]Your auntie has and she is. Harwoodstblue
  • Score: 0

8:43pm Mon 26 Nov 12

baldie says...

J.C - Rishton wrote:
bluerob wrote:
honest comments from HB, I'm liking this guy and I think we will do well given time.
Honest comments ?? - he's moaning about a possible free kick we didnt get ON THE HALF WAY LINE !!

If Kean had made this statement we would have all (quite rightly) slated him for it.

HB needs to focus on what he CAN do something about - not moaning about irrelevancies.

What he can do is -

1 - Pick the CORRECT TEAM (Givet, Vukevic, drop Ethuhu etc).

2 - Get them working as hard as Millwall did.

3 - Make his substitutions a bit faster so they could have an impact on the game (SV 7 mins ??).

4 - Keep improving the system he wants to play - one that gets JR involed in the game and with good consistant service.

5 - Work on improving the defense (they havent kept a clean sheet under him yet).

If he starts moaning regularly about irrelevant issues and dosent focus on what he can improve then he simply isnt going to cut it as a manager at this level and aint gonna last long.
He isn't,he's moaning about a free kick we DID get,but no advantage was played.I went mental myself at the time.
[quote][p][bold]J.C - Rishton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bluerob[/bold] wrote: honest comments from HB, I'm liking this guy and I think we will do well given time.[/p][/quote]Honest comments ?? - he's moaning about a possible free kick we didnt get ON THE HALF WAY LINE !! If Kean had made this statement we would have all (quite rightly) slated him for it. HB needs to focus on what he CAN do something about - not moaning about irrelevancies. What he can do is - 1 - Pick the CORRECT TEAM (Givet, Vukevic, drop Ethuhu etc). 2 - Get them working as hard as Millwall did. 3 - Make his substitutions a bit faster so they could have an impact on the game (SV 7 mins ??). 4 - Keep improving the system he wants to play - one that gets JR involed in the game and with good consistant service. 5 - Work on improving the defense (they havent kept a clean sheet under him yet). If he starts moaning regularly about irrelevant issues and dosent focus on what he can improve then he simply isnt going to cut it as a manager at this level and aint gonna last long.[/p][/quote]He isn't,he's moaning about a free kick we DID get,but no advantage was played.I went mental myself at the time. baldie
  • Score: 1

8:54pm Mon 26 Nov 12

French Rover says...

roverinmanchstr wrote:
French Rover wrote:
HB has the perfect opportunity to win ALL the fans support with Bolton and Burnley next up. Six glorious points at stake from our nearest and dearest rivals and we can expect them all to go to us...Allez les Bleus!
been on the escargots again!
ye of little faith......six points - its snailed on mate.
[quote][p][bold]roverinmanchstr[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]French Rover[/bold] wrote: HB has the perfect opportunity to win ALL the fans support with Bolton and Burnley next up. Six glorious points at stake from our nearest and dearest rivals and we can expect them all to go to us...Allez les Bleus![/p][/quote]been on the escargots again![/p][/quote]ye of little faith......six points - its snailed on mate. French Rover
  • Score: 1

9:32pm Mon 26 Nov 12

charleston1 says...

Team set -up is critical, two up front is a must against any form team with a stellar & solid back 4, otherwise no end product. We did have supply the amazing 1st half cross from Lowe if there had been more than 1 in the box we could have connected. I thought Rochina a natural playmaker but he needs a strong leader giving direction and a game plan. The back 4 were opened up very easily on the break/turnover, and had Millwall used two forwards the game would have been over by half time, as it was their game plan identified pulling centre halves out of position winning tackles and long range shots.
Thought we might have remembered Middlesborough, was only a few weeks ago.
Etuhu & Formica were both light weight and Formica's free kicks rarely got past first base, but in this respect he was not the only sinner.
Robinson's first clearance appeared nervous transmitted apprehension to his defence, Millwall picked up on this all through the game, confidence is a must have for any keeper.....
There were solid performances for example the pace of our attacking overlapping full backs certainly got to great positions, the final product could be better and Berg was right, the free kick should have been advantage and JR would have had a great game changing chance.
Good luck with next two fixtures, both winnable should we build on the attack game plan and bolster central defence.,
Team set -up is critical, two up front is a must against any form team with a stellar & solid back 4, otherwise no end product. We did have supply the amazing 1st half cross from Lowe if there had been more than 1 in the box we could have connected. I thought Rochina a natural playmaker but he needs a strong leader giving direction and a game plan. The back 4 were opened up very easily on the break/turnover, and had Millwall used two forwards the game would have been over by half time, as it was their game plan identified pulling centre halves out of position winning tackles and long range shots. Thought we might have remembered Middlesborough, was only a few weeks ago. Etuhu & Formica were both light weight and Formica's free kicks rarely got past first base, but in this respect he was not the only sinner. Robinson's first clearance appeared nervous transmitted apprehension to his defence, Millwall picked up on this all through the game, confidence is a must have for any keeper..... There were solid performances for example the pace of our attacking overlapping full backs certainly got to great positions, the final product could be better and Berg was right, the free kick should have been advantage and JR would have had a great game changing chance. Good luck with next two fixtures, both winnable should we build on the attack game plan and bolster central defence., charleston1
  • Score: 2

9:54pm Mon 26 Nov 12

owd nick says...

The real difference between the two sides was the keepers, one who totally commanded his area, made some crucial saves and the other who has been tapped up by West Ham, hence Rovers attempt to get Friedel back before the transfer window opens.
The real difference between the two sides was the keepers, one who totally commanded his area, made some crucial saves and the other who has been tapped up by West Ham, hence Rovers attempt to get Friedel back before the transfer window opens. owd nick
  • Score: -1

3:35am Tue 27 Nov 12

Roverthere says...

ronnie clayton wrote:
fanny_tickler wrote:
blueblooded wrote:
ronnie clayton wrote:
Scottish Sun article today ,Colin Hendry once again disgracing the the great name of Blackburn Rovers today .
The old age pensioners Hendry borrowed and swindled 91,000 pounds from, AMAZINGLY HENDRY NOW wants them charged for assault because these old people confronted the coward HENDRY in a restaurant in Lytham and asked him if he was going to honour his commitment he made to them , Hendry said "my word is my honour" and also said "whatever happens you will get your money back"
ALL LIES FROM HENDRY ,so when confronted last June by these old people Hendry decided he was getting annoyed and called in the police ,Hendry comments were " I know I got their 91,000 pound life savings from them but I went bankrupt and that was that ,I dont want anything to do with them anymore , I am doing well and making good money again and legally I don`t have to pay them anything back and I wont".

JUDGE FOR YOURSELF BRAVEHEART OR WOMEN BEATER COWARD.
you're a creepy stalker bescmrching a name of a great Rovers legend with your Scottish Sun tails.

FACT.
Colin Hendry is a theiving jock b@stard.

FACT.
A Good footballer Colin Hendry - possibly .
But always disliked intensly by all his team mates, a womaniser ,a money hungry man, a swindler and robber , a woman beater many many times, who the police are continually investigating for domestic violence ,a gambler , an alcoholic gambler , a Kean boy who turned against the Rovers supportesr to back Kean e

A good footballer o.k. POSSIBLY so that makes his scumbag activites OK ?

ANYWAY GROW UP "BLUEBLOOD" OR ARE YOU THE SAME PERSON WE ALL THINK YOU ARE ON THE ROVERS PAYROLL ?
DECENCY IS PRIME ABOVE ALL ELSE AND ROVERS WILL ONCE AGAIN ONE DAY BE KNOWN AND SEEN AS WE WERE WHEN JACK WAS HERE A CLUB WITH LEADERS WITH HONESTY/ INTEGRITY/ PRIDE UNTIL WE DO WE WILL LANGUISH .
Once Rovers legend, now a parasitic scumbag, get him out!
[quote][p][bold]ronnie clayton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fanny_tickler[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]blueblooded[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ronnie clayton[/bold] wrote: Scottish Sun article today ,Colin Hendry once again disgracing the the great name of Blackburn Rovers today . The old age pensioners Hendry borrowed and swindled 91,000 pounds from, AMAZINGLY HENDRY NOW wants them charged for assault because these old people confronted the coward HENDRY in a restaurant in Lytham and asked him if he was going to honour his commitment he made to them , Hendry said "my word is my honour" and also said "whatever happens you will get your money back" ALL LIES FROM HENDRY ,so when confronted last June by these old people Hendry decided he was getting annoyed and called in the police ,Hendry comments were " I know I got their 91,000 pound life savings from them but I went bankrupt and that was that ,I dont want anything to do with them anymore , I am doing well and making good money again and legally I don`t have to pay them anything back and I wont". JUDGE FOR YOURSELF BRAVEHEART OR WOMEN BEATER COWARD.[/p][/quote]you're a creepy stalker bescmrching a name of a great Rovers legend with your Scottish Sun tails. FACT.[/p][/quote]Colin Hendry is a theiving jock b@stard. FACT.[/p][/quote]A Good footballer Colin Hendry - possibly . But always disliked intensly by all his team mates, a womaniser ,a money hungry man, a swindler and robber , a woman beater many many times, who the police are continually investigating for domestic violence ,a gambler , an alcoholic gambler , a Kean boy who turned against the Rovers supportesr to back Kean e A good footballer o.k. POSSIBLY so that makes his scumbag activites OK ? ANYWAY GROW UP "BLUEBLOOD" OR ARE YOU THE SAME PERSON WE ALL THINK YOU ARE ON THE ROVERS PAYROLL ? DECENCY IS PRIME ABOVE ALL ELSE AND ROVERS WILL ONCE AGAIN ONE DAY BE KNOWN AND SEEN AS WE WERE WHEN JACK WAS HERE A CLUB WITH LEADERS WITH HONESTY/ INTEGRITY/ PRIDE UNTIL WE DO WE WILL LANGUISH .[/p][/quote]Once Rovers legend, now a parasitic scumbag, get him out! Roverthere
  • Score: 1

9:34am Tue 27 Nov 12

Robbie says...

ronnie clayton wrote:
fanny_tickler wrote:
blueblooded wrote:
ronnie clayton wrote: Scottish Sun article today ,Colin Hendry once again disgracing the the great name of Blackburn Rovers today . The old age pensioners Hendry borrowed and swindled 91,000 pounds from, AMAZINGLY HENDRY NOW wants them charged for assault because these old people confronted the coward HENDRY in a restaurant in Lytham and asked him if he was going to honour his commitment he made to them , Hendry said "my word is my honour" and also said "whatever happens you will get your money back" ALL LIES FROM HENDRY ,so when confronted last June by these old people Hendry decided he was getting annoyed and called in the police ,Hendry comments were " I know I got their 91,000 pound life savings from them but I went bankrupt and that was that ,I dont want anything to do with them anymore , I am doing well and making good money again and legally I don`t have to pay them anything back and I wont". JUDGE FOR YOURSELF BRAVEHEART OR WOMEN BEATER COWARD.
you're a creepy stalker bescmrching a name of a great Rovers legend with your Scottish Sun tails. FACT.
Colin Hendry is a theiving jock b@stard. FACT.
A Good footballer Colin Hendry - possibly . But always disliked intensly by all his team mates, a womaniser ,a money hungry man, a swindler and robber , a woman beater many many times, who the police are continually investigating for domestic violence ,a gambler , an alcoholic gambler , a Kean boy who turned against the Rovers supportesr to back Kean e A good footballer o.k. POSSIBLY so that makes his scumbag activites OK ? ANYWAY GROW UP "BLUEBLOOD" OR ARE YOU THE SAME PERSON WE ALL THINK YOU ARE ON THE ROVERS PAYROLL ? DECENCY IS PRIME ABOVE ALL ELSE AND ROVERS WILL ONCE AGAIN ONE DAY BE KNOWN AND SEEN AS WE WERE WHEN JACK WAS HERE A CLUB WITH LEADERS WITH HONESTY/ INTEGRITY/ PRIDE UNTIL WE DO WE WILL LANGUISH .
And none of this has anything do to with you, me or anyone else on this page, the only people it has anything to do with are those involved.

you not he are a disgrace to the rovers name due to your ongoing comments.

my guess is your a dingle wishing he was a rovers fan....
[quote][p][bold]ronnie clayton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fanny_tickler[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]blueblooded[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ronnie clayton[/bold] wrote: Scottish Sun article today ,Colin Hendry once again disgracing the the great name of Blackburn Rovers today . The old age pensioners Hendry borrowed and swindled 91,000 pounds from, AMAZINGLY HENDRY NOW wants them charged for assault because these old people confronted the coward HENDRY in a restaurant in Lytham and asked him if he was going to honour his commitment he made to them , Hendry said "my word is my honour" and also said "whatever happens you will get your money back" ALL LIES FROM HENDRY ,so when confronted last June by these old people Hendry decided he was getting annoyed and called in the police ,Hendry comments were " I know I got their 91,000 pound life savings from them but I went bankrupt and that was that ,I dont want anything to do with them anymore , I am doing well and making good money again and legally I don`t have to pay them anything back and I wont". JUDGE FOR YOURSELF BRAVEHEART OR WOMEN BEATER COWARD.[/p][/quote]you're a creepy stalker bescmrching a name of a great Rovers legend with your Scottish Sun tails. FACT.[/p][/quote]Colin Hendry is a theiving jock b@stard. FACT.[/p][/quote]A Good footballer Colin Hendry - possibly . But always disliked intensly by all his team mates, a womaniser ,a money hungry man, a swindler and robber , a woman beater many many times, who the police are continually investigating for domestic violence ,a gambler , an alcoholic gambler , a Kean boy who turned against the Rovers supportesr to back Kean e A good footballer o.k. POSSIBLY so that makes his scumbag activites OK ? ANYWAY GROW UP "BLUEBLOOD" OR ARE YOU THE SAME PERSON WE ALL THINK YOU ARE ON THE ROVERS PAYROLL ? DECENCY IS PRIME ABOVE ALL ELSE AND ROVERS WILL ONCE AGAIN ONE DAY BE KNOWN AND SEEN AS WE WERE WHEN JACK WAS HERE A CLUB WITH LEADERS WITH HONESTY/ INTEGRITY/ PRIDE UNTIL WE DO WE WILL LANGUISH .[/p][/quote]And none of this has anything do to with you, me or anyone else on this page, the only people it has anything to do with are those involved. you not he are a disgrace to the rovers name due to your ongoing comments. my guess is your a dingle wishing he was a rovers fan.... Robbie
  • Score: 0

9:42am Tue 27 Nov 12

Nuttall Street says...

This is a worrying development! First, taking positives from what was by all accounts a poor defeat and then blaming the ref for the loss (because he apparently erred on the side of awarding Rovers a free kick instead of playing advantage. From what I have heard about their finishing Rovers wouldn't have scored from the play on anyway!)
I recall having heard this type of managerial post match analysis somewhere before. Hmmm, now who was that from?
Perhaps all this rubbish comes from Shabby. Maybe the manager is forced to quote from Shabby's weekly match report back to the Venky's.
This is a worrying development! First, taking positives from what was by all accounts a poor defeat and then blaming the ref for the loss (because he apparently erred on the side of awarding Rovers a free kick instead of playing advantage. From what I have heard about their finishing Rovers wouldn't have scored from the play on anyway!) I recall having heard this type of managerial post match analysis somewhere before. Hmmm, now who was that from? Perhaps all this rubbish comes from Shabby. Maybe the manager is forced to quote from Shabby's weekly match report back to the Venky's. Nuttall Street
  • Score: 1

10:44am Tue 27 Nov 12

dangerous dave says...

'blueblooded' - once again your all adrift - once you've got your brain out of where the sun dont shine have a read again - it was'nt me who told you to grow up!!!
OUT WITH SHAW AGNEW SINGH BLACK HENDRY VENKEYS
'blueblooded' - once again your all adrift - once you've got your brain out of where the sun dont shine have a read again - it was'nt me who told you to grow up!!! OUT WITH SHAW AGNEW SINGH BLACK HENDRY VENKEYS dangerous dave
  • Score: 0

1:47pm Tue 27 Nov 12

roverinmanchstr says...

French Rover wrote:
roverinmanchstr wrote:
French Rover wrote: HB has the perfect opportunity to win ALL the fans support with Bolton and Burnley next up. Six glorious points at stake from our nearest and dearest rivals and we can expect them all to go to us...Allez les Bleus!
been on the escargots again!
ye of little faith......six points - its snailed on mate.
So long as the Venky's are in 'control' ( more like screwing the club) there's going to be problems...Sorry, should have put in my insert 'Contiuing to screw the Club'
[quote][p][bold]French Rover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]roverinmanchstr[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]French Rover[/bold] wrote: HB has the perfect opportunity to win ALL the fans support with Bolton and Burnley next up. Six glorious points at stake from our nearest and dearest rivals and we can expect them all to go to us...Allez les Bleus![/p][/quote]been on the escargots again![/p][/quote]ye of little faith......six points - its snailed on mate.[/p][/quote]So long as the Venky's are in 'control' ( more like screwing the club) there's going to be problems...Sorry, should have put in my insert 'Contiuing to screw the Club' roverinmanchstr
  • Score: 0

2:15pm Tue 27 Nov 12

MatthewCA says...

Berg is still in the TV analysis mode: -

Crying for a free kick................
..sounds nothing after we lost 3 points.

We need to grip on our defence, Shooting on target, wing player's should cross the ball into BOX, so pace and control with the ball. Who is best to do this assignment, pick them. If the Wing players role is defined, he should not cross that and enter all other kind of role until we get few goals.

our games, wing players are frequently run with the ball into the box and not getting the correct angle and shoots, it goes over the bar, where our master of BOX Jorden Rhodes is looking for a cross. result zero.

Look at the previous game he got hatrick - three crosses clear on his head and foot. result 3 goals. So we need to educate our midfeild and wing players , how to play - mention that your role to pass the ball to Rhodes in the bos at the correct pace and correct time - this is a decision makeing process in a split of a second. they feel they all are master class, but doing bullwork.

Corner kick conversion - Zero, why not showing any passion to get a goal.

Robbo is getting week with angle shoot from players, from left side any shoot with little fast is converting into goals. He is not picking the path. it happen with Man united game last prem season.

Murphy,Formica,Euthu
,hanley can rest and get better players to start.
Berg is still in the TV analysis mode: - Crying for a free kick................ ..sounds nothing after we lost 3 points. We need to grip on our defence, Shooting on target, wing player's should cross the ball into BOX, so pace and control with the ball. Who is best to do this assignment, pick them. If the Wing players role is defined, he should not cross that and enter all other kind of role until we get few goals. our games, wing players are frequently run with the ball into the box and not getting the correct angle and shoots, it goes over the bar, where our master of BOX Jorden Rhodes is looking for a cross. result zero. Look at the previous game he got hatrick - three crosses clear on his head and foot. result 3 goals. So we need to educate our midfeild and wing players , how to play - mention that your role to pass the ball to Rhodes in the bos at the correct pace and correct time - this is a decision makeing process in a split of a second. they feel they all are master class, but doing bullwork. Corner kick conversion - Zero, why not showing any passion to get a goal. Robbo is getting week with angle shoot from players, from left side any shoot with little fast is converting into goals. He is not picking the path. it happen with Man united game last prem season. Murphy,Formica,Euthu ,hanley can rest and get better players to start. MatthewCA
  • Score: 0

11:50am Wed 28 Nov 12

MxMave says...

J.C - Rishton wrote:
MxMave wrote:
I think we have to face facts that:

A) We arnt getting promoted via automatic spots
B) Berg is a medicore manager (still 10000% better than Kean)
C) Half the team needs clearing out if we are to be promoted

For me there are a lot of players in our playing team who arnt good enough. Either they arnt ready yet or never will be good enough.

Marcus Ollson - final ball/ball control is not good enough
Grant Hanley - not solid enough yet
Rochina - we can't rely on this man every game. With our current tactics, if Ruben has an off day then we loose.
Adam Henley - probably not ready yet, he got skinned several times vs Millwall.

In January we need to bring in players to replace these (even if we just loan Rochina, Hanley, Henley out).
- A new LB would be great, then Ollson could play down the left wing.
- A CB is a MUST for January if Givet is no longer considered a first teamer.
- A pacey/tricky winger/CAM

With the current squad i think Vucevic/Formica and King on either wing is the best way to go. Fabio Nunez and Marcus Ollson can't cross to save thier lives.
Although I agree with 99% of what you say I am amazed you havent mentioned our central midfield area where we are so weak its untrue.

Murphy and Etuhu are just not good enough - full stop.

As for SV or Formica - Formica is never a right winger, he's slower than my grandma and adds very little to the team, either offensively or defensively - £3.5m compeltely wasted.

Surely its time for Vukevic to be given a chance - he looks direct, dangerous and comitted every time he comes on then gets dropped for inferior players for the next match.

HB - yes you've inherited a huge mess of a squad and yes you have got some improvement out of them and yes its gonna take a long time to sort out the dross from this squad but the honeymoon is over now and you need to start producing a much harder team to beat and some WINS on the board.
See I actually rate Formica as one of our best players. What he lacks in pace he makes up for in skill and he puts pressure on thier defence when we dont have the ball. I think barring the Millwall game, Formica was one of our best players in the previous 2 games. I notice HB has gone a rotating forward line system whereby when Rochina goes to a wing, the winger on the opposite side tucks into the CF role and I think Formica is best in this role.

I'm not entirely sure bout Murphy & Etuhu, sometimes they play well, sometimes they don't but I think with a better squad around them it would ease the pressure. It seems like we have far too many "up and comers" who just arnt quite ready yet: "M Ollson, Nunez, King, Rochina, Lowe, Hanley, Henley". Its good to have prospects but not when your entire first team are prospects!
[quote][p][bold]J.C - Rishton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MxMave[/bold] wrote: I think we have to face facts that: A) We arnt getting promoted via automatic spots B) Berg is a medicore manager (still 10000% better than Kean) C) Half the team needs clearing out if we are to be promoted For me there are a lot of players in our playing team who arnt good enough. Either they arnt ready yet or never will be good enough. Marcus Ollson - final ball/ball control is not good enough Grant Hanley - not solid enough yet Rochina - we can't rely on this man every game. With our current tactics, if Ruben has an off day then we loose. Adam Henley - probably not ready yet, he got skinned several times vs Millwall. In January we need to bring in players to replace these (even if we just loan Rochina, Hanley, Henley out). - A new LB would be great, then Ollson could play down the left wing. - A CB is a MUST for January if Givet is no longer considered a first teamer. - A pacey/tricky winger/CAM With the current squad i think Vucevic/Formica and King on either wing is the best way to go. Fabio Nunez and Marcus Ollson can't cross to save thier lives.[/p][/quote]Although I agree with 99% of what you say I am amazed you havent mentioned our central midfield area where we are so weak its untrue. Murphy and Etuhu are just not good enough - full stop. As for SV or Formica - Formica is never a right winger, he's slower than my grandma and adds very little to the team, either offensively or defensively - £3.5m compeltely wasted. Surely its time for Vukevic to be given a chance - he looks direct, dangerous and comitted every time he comes on then gets dropped for inferior players for the next match. HB - yes you've inherited a huge mess of a squad and yes you have got some improvement out of them and yes its gonna take a long time to sort out the dross from this squad but the honeymoon is over now and you need to start producing a much harder team to beat and some WINS on the board.[/p][/quote]See I actually rate Formica as one of our best players. What he lacks in pace he makes up for in skill and he puts pressure on thier defence when we dont have the ball. I think barring the Millwall game, Formica was one of our best players in the previous 2 games. I notice HB has gone a rotating forward line system whereby when Rochina goes to a wing, the winger on the opposite side tucks into the CF role and I think Formica is best in this role. I'm not entirely sure bout Murphy & Etuhu, sometimes they play well, sometimes they don't but I think with a better squad around them it would ease the pressure. It seems like we have far too many "up and comers" who just arnt quite ready yet: "M Ollson, Nunez, King, Rochina, Lowe, Hanley, Henley". Its good to have prospects but not when your entire first team are prospects! MxMave
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