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Rovers frustrated over Friedel deal

BLACKBURN Rovers yesterday completed the loan signing of Manchester United forward Josh King – but they were unable to convince Tottenham to allow Brad Friedel to return to the club on a temporary deal.

Henning Berg swooped to make King his first signing as Rovers boss as he recruited the 20-year-old Norwegian international on loan until January, with a view to a permanent deal.

Berg also made an audacious attempt to lure Rovers legend Friedel back to the club ahead of the closure of the Football League’s loan window at 5pm yesterday.

The duo were previously team-mates at Ewood Park but it is understood that Berg’s enquiry about a loan move, which may have led to the offer an extended deal, was turned down by Tottenham.

Friedel still remains in Andre Villas-Boas’ plans at White Hart Lane after battling for the goalkeeper’s jersey with Hugo Lloris since the start of the season.

The 41-year-old was expected to be merely back-up at Tottenham this season when the North London club completed the signing of French international Lloris.

But, although Lloris got the nod for Saturday’s 5-2 Premier League defeat at Arsenal, Friedel has made 10 appearances this season.

Rovers fans had hoped a move may materialise when the American did not travel to Italy for last night’s Europa League game against Lazio, but Friedel has been rested from all of Tottenham’s European games so far this season.

Paul Robinson was immediately linked with a January move to West Ham yesterday, to link up again with Sam Allardyce, although Rovers are thought to want to retain their current regular keeper.

Berg, however, may still monitor Friedel’s situation and consider another enquiry should the American fall out of contention at Tottenham in the months to come.

Friedel is out of contract at Spurs in the summer and has previously said he will assess whether to play on at the end of the season, when he will consider whether he feels fit enough to continue and whether his services will be required either at Tottenham or elsewhere.

He could move into coaching when his career ends, something that could also be of interest to Rovers.

“It’s a month to month scenario and towards the end of the season I’ll decide how my body is,” he said.

“You have to also take into account ‘Is there someone that wants you?’ Hopefully it would still be here (Tottenham) but you’d also have to think that the club have made an investment in someone as good as Hugo (Lloris), so what would the role be?

“But as I said in the summer, I’m open to any role.”

Rovers were successful, though, in their attempt to bring in King on loan from Manchester United.

The deal had been agreed in principle on Wednesday before Venky’s yesterday gave the go-ahead for the move.

The pacy forward, who can also play in a wide role, already has four caps for Norway and will provide additional competition up front.

Rovers already have the likes of Jordan Rhodes, Nuno Gomes, Ruben Rochina, Colin Kazim-Richards and Leon Best at the club.

King, who moved to Old Trafford from Valerenga at the age of 16, featured as a late substitute in United’s Champions League defeat to Galatasaray on Tuesday as Sir Alex Ferguson fielded a youthful line-up.

He had previously made one League Cup appearance in 2009 as well as having loan spells at Preston, Hull and German side Borussia Monchengladbach.

Rovers yesterday allowed 20-year-old central defender Jack O’Connell to join League Two side Rotherham on loan until January 5.

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8:57am Fri 23 Nov 12

Bazzer says...

Talking of ex Rovers, I hear QPR fans have been singing "Ryan Nelsen! He plays on his own". I also note the progress of Anzhi and the excellent performances of Chris Samba.
We really do miss quality in the centre back position. I do not subscribe to the notion that "attack is the best form of defence". It is a soundbite with little substance in reality.
I have confidence that Berg will sort it though.
Talking of ex Rovers, I hear QPR fans have been singing "Ryan Nelsen! He plays on his own". I also note the progress of Anzhi and the excellent performances of Chris Samba. We really do miss quality in the centre back position. I do not subscribe to the notion that "attack is the best form of defence". It is a soundbite with little substance in reality. I have confidence that Berg will sort it though. Bazzer
  • Score: 8

9:02am Fri 23 Nov 12

Terrier man says...

If Josh King has pace, that's one box ticked already.
If Josh King has pace, that's one box ticked already. Terrier man
  • Score: 13

9:04am Fri 23 Nov 12

dangerous dave says...

Yes this deal really as backfired on the Management at Ewood with reports in the National Press this morning that they were to let Paul Robinson go on a 'free transfer' - hope that this does not change Robinson's attitude in respect of loyalty to the club and especially the fans - he was one of the few that supported how the fans felt through the Kean fiasco!!!!
OUT WITH SHAW AGNEW BLACK HENDRY SINGH VENKEYS
Yes this deal really as backfired on the Management at Ewood with reports in the National Press this morning that they were to let Paul Robinson go on a 'free transfer' - hope that this does not change Robinson's attitude in respect of loyalty to the club and especially the fans - he was one of the few that supported how the fans felt through the Kean fiasco!!!! OUT WITH SHAW AGNEW BLACK HENDRY SINGH VENKEYS dangerous dave
  • Score: -15

9:08am Fri 23 Nov 12

Harwoodstblue says...

Since King is a Norwegian international Berg obviously knows him and rates him well. We can't lose really. If he doesn't impress (hope he does ) we just send him back in January.
Sorry we didn't get Friedel though.
Since King is a Norwegian international Berg obviously knows him and rates him well. We can't lose really. If he doesn't impress (hope he does ) we just send him back in January. Sorry we didn't get Friedel though. Harwoodstblue
  • Score: 13

9:13am Fri 23 Nov 12

RoversSwiss says...

Hopefully this will not unsettle Robinson, many of us have our doubts about him as a keeper, but there is no doubt that he has always been committed to the cause. Kean doesn't look ready for the Champinship just yet.

Suprisingly part of Dangerous Dave's post sounded sensible for a while, pity he ruined it by regressing with his last line. Unless he's got somebody lined up with as much money as the Venkys.
Hopefully this will not unsettle Robinson, many of us have our doubts about him as a keeper, but there is no doubt that he has always been committed to the cause. Kean doesn't look ready for the Champinship just yet. Suprisingly part of Dangerous Dave's post sounded sensible for a while, pity he ruined it by regressing with his last line. Unless he's got somebody lined up with as much money as the Venkys. RoversSwiss
  • Score: 12

9:14am Fri 23 Nov 12

Harwoodstblue says...

dangerous dave wrote:
Yes this deal really as backfired on the Management at Ewood with reports in the National Press this morning that they were to let Paul Robinson go on a 'free transfer' - hope that this does not change Robinson's attitude in respect of loyalty to the club and especially the fans - he was one of the few that supported how the fans felt through the Kean fiasco!!!!
OUT WITH SHAW AGNEW BLACK HENDRY SINGH VENKEYS
Hi Dave....I don't believe all that's written in the national press. I don't believe for a minute Rovers would get rid of Robinson to replace him with a 41 year old. Doesn't make sense to me.
Taking Friedel on and keeping Robinson was a much better option, but not to be now.
[quote][p][bold]dangerous dave[/bold] wrote: Yes this deal really as backfired on the Management at Ewood with reports in the National Press this morning that they were to let Paul Robinson go on a 'free transfer' - hope that this does not change Robinson's attitude in respect of loyalty to the club and especially the fans - he was one of the few that supported how the fans felt through the Kean fiasco!!!! OUT WITH SHAW AGNEW BLACK HENDRY SINGH VENKEYS[/p][/quote]Hi Dave....I don't believe all that's written in the national press. I don't believe for a minute Rovers would get rid of Robinson to replace him with a 41 year old. Doesn't make sense to me. Taking Friedel on and keeping Robinson was a much better option, but not to be now. Harwoodstblue
  • Score: 10

11:01am Fri 23 Nov 12

xrayspex77 says...

dangerous dave wrote:
Yes this deal really as backfired on the Management at Ewood with reports in the National Press this morning that they were to let Paul Robinson go on a 'free transfer' - hope that this does not change Robinson's attitude in respect of loyalty to the club and especially the fans - he was one of the few that supported how the fans felt through the Kean fiasco!!!! OUT WITH SHAW AGNEW BLACK HENDRY SINGH VENKEYS
It's about time people shut up with all this who they want out. We are slowly moving forward so get behind the club and give it a rest.
[quote][p][bold]dangerous dave[/bold] wrote: Yes this deal really as backfired on the Management at Ewood with reports in the National Press this morning that they were to let Paul Robinson go on a 'free transfer' - hope that this does not change Robinson's attitude in respect of loyalty to the club and especially the fans - he was one of the few that supported how the fans felt through the Kean fiasco!!!! OUT WITH SHAW AGNEW BLACK HENDRY SINGH VENKEYS[/p][/quote]It's about time people shut up with all this who they want out. We are slowly moving forward so get behind the club and give it a rest. xrayspex77
  • Score: 19

11:18am Fri 23 Nov 12

Jamie's Magic Torch says...

If Kean does take over at QPR is there an opportunity could we nab Hoillet and Nelsen back?
If Kean does take over at QPR is there an opportunity could we nab Hoillet and Nelsen back? Jamie's Magic Torch
  • Score: 10

11:24am Fri 23 Nov 12

handyamBRFC says...

Most fans of football would agree Paul Robinson is a good goalkeeper and he is BRFC number 1. He is tried and tested and having the right experience and the right age. There is no way we can let PaulR go to another club. He is worth 2- 3 million at the least. It would be difficult to replace PaulR as he is good. We are lucky that he didn't go to another premiership club but rather he stayed. That shows his loyalty.
Brad was a great goalkeeper but he's getting on and he would be great as a GK coach and backup for PR and coaching the young ones.
Ultimately., I can see BRFC being turned into a football academy. We need to get young lads & talented young players in to BRFC from around the world, have experienced playing staff around them to coach them and hopefully bring on some great potential players for BRFC.
Most fans of football would agree Paul Robinson is a good goalkeeper and he is BRFC number 1. He is tried and tested and having the right experience and the right age. There is no way we can let PaulR go to another club. He is worth 2- 3 million at the least. It would be difficult to replace PaulR as he is good. We are lucky that he didn't go to another premiership club but rather he stayed. That shows his loyalty. Brad was a great goalkeeper but he's getting on and he would be great as a GK coach and backup for PR and coaching the young ones. Ultimately., I can see BRFC being turned into a football academy. We need to get young lads & talented young players in to BRFC from around the world, have experienced playing staff around them to coach them and hopefully bring on some great potential players for BRFC. handyamBRFC
  • Score: 6

11:34am Fri 23 Nov 12

greenscreener says...

I don't know who wrote this article but if

--Rovers already have the likes of Jordan Rhodes, Nuno Gomes, Ruben Rochina, Colin Kazim-Richards and Leon Best at the club--

young Mr Goodwillie would now appear to be our 7th choice striker. He's really going to have to move on to get some game time.
I don't know who wrote this article but if --Rovers already have the likes of Jordan Rhodes, Nuno Gomes, Ruben Rochina, Colin Kazim-Richards and Leon Best at the club-- young Mr Goodwillie would now appear to be our 7th choice striker. He's really going to have to move on to get some game time. greenscreener
  • Score: 8

11:39am Fri 23 Nov 12

Sturdy_Rover says...

TBF I never liked Robo there was no doubt he is committed to Rovers but his constant hoofing of the ball used to irritate the hell out of me. I mean sometimes there would be no pressure on the back four it would only make sense to retain possession and play from the back, but no let's hoof the ball and hope for the best!!
TBF I never liked Robo there was no doubt he is committed to Rovers but his constant hoofing of the ball used to irritate the hell out of me. I mean sometimes there would be no pressure on the back four it would only make sense to retain possession and play from the back, but no let's hoof the ball and hope for the best!! Sturdy_Rover
  • Score: 2

12:15pm Fri 23 Nov 12

benal13 says...

xrayspex77 wrote:
dangerous dave wrote:
Yes this deal really as backfired on the Management at Ewood with reports in the National Press this morning that they were to let Paul Robinson go on a 'free transfer' - hope that this does not change Robinson's attitude in respect of loyalty to the club and especially the fans - he was one of the few that supported how the fans felt through the Kean fiasco!!!! OUT WITH SHAW AGNEW BLACK HENDRY SINGH VENKEYS
It's about time people shut up with all this who they want out. We are slowly moving forward so get behind the club and give it a rest.
take your blue and white xray spex off and let other people have an opinion as well as you, even if you dont agree with it .
[quote][p][bold]xrayspex77[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dangerous dave[/bold] wrote: Yes this deal really as backfired on the Management at Ewood with reports in the National Press this morning that they were to let Paul Robinson go on a 'free transfer' - hope that this does not change Robinson's attitude in respect of loyalty to the club and especially the fans - he was one of the few that supported how the fans felt through the Kean fiasco!!!! OUT WITH SHAW AGNEW BLACK HENDRY SINGH VENKEYS[/p][/quote]It's about time people shut up with all this who they want out. We are slowly moving forward so get behind the club and give it a rest.[/p][/quote]take your blue and white xray spex off and let other people have an opinion as well as you, even if you dont agree with it . benal13
  • Score: -5

12:24pm Fri 23 Nov 12

greenscreener says...

Sturdy_Rover wrote:
TBF I never liked Robo there was no doubt he is committed to Rovers but his constant hoofing of the ball used to irritate the hell out of me. I mean sometimes there would be no pressure on the back four it would only make sense to retain possession and play from the back, but no let's hoof the ball and hope for the best!!
I think you will find that what the keeper does with the ball is 90% determined by how the manager wants his team to play, and 10% on taking the initiative if he sees an opportunity to do something quickly.

Sam told him to go long, Berg tells him to let them play from the back, Kean probably said 'hang on a minute while I ask Mrs Desai.'
[quote][p][bold]Sturdy_Rover[/bold] wrote: TBF I never liked Robo there was no doubt he is committed to Rovers but his constant hoofing of the ball used to irritate the hell out of me. I mean sometimes there would be no pressure on the back four it would only make sense to retain possession and play from the back, but no let's hoof the ball and hope for the best!![/p][/quote]I think you will find that what the keeper does with the ball is 90% determined by how the manager wants his team to play, and 10% on taking the initiative if he sees an opportunity to do something quickly. Sam told him to go long, Berg tells him to let them play from the back, Kean probably said 'hang on a minute while I ask Mrs Desai.' greenscreener
  • Score: 20

12:34pm Fri 23 Nov 12

merlinrabbit says...

greenscreener wrote:
Sturdy_Rover wrote:
TBF I never liked Robo there was no doubt he is committed to Rovers but his constant hoofing of the ball used to irritate the hell out of me. I mean sometimes there would be no pressure on the back four it would only make sense to retain possession and play from the back, but no let's hoof the ball and hope for the best!!
I think you will find that what the keeper does with the ball is 90% determined by how the manager wants his team to play, and 10% on taking the initiative if he sees an opportunity to do something quickly.

Sam told him to go long, Berg tells him to let them play from the back, Kean probably said 'hang on a minute while I ask Mrs Desai.'
Very funny. What a plonker that Kean was.
[quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sturdy_Rover[/bold] wrote: TBF I never liked Robo there was no doubt he is committed to Rovers but his constant hoofing of the ball used to irritate the hell out of me. I mean sometimes there would be no pressure on the back four it would only make sense to retain possession and play from the back, but no let's hoof the ball and hope for the best!![/p][/quote]I think you will find that what the keeper does with the ball is 90% determined by how the manager wants his team to play, and 10% on taking the initiative if he sees an opportunity to do something quickly. Sam told him to go long, Berg tells him to let them play from the back, Kean probably said 'hang on a minute while I ask Mrs Desai.'[/p][/quote]Very funny. What a plonker that Kean was. merlinrabbit
  • Score: 4

12:56pm Fri 23 Nov 12

Harwoodstblue says...

merlinrabbit wrote:
greenscreener wrote:
Sturdy_Rover wrote:
TBF I never liked Robo there was no doubt he is committed to Rovers but his constant hoofing of the ball used to irritate the hell out of me. I mean sometimes there would be no pressure on the back four it would only make sense to retain possession and play from the back, but no let's hoof the ball and hope for the best!!
I think you will find that what the keeper does with the ball is 90% determined by how the manager wants his team to play, and 10% on taking the initiative if he sees an opportunity to do something quickly.

Sam told him to go long, Berg tells him to let them play from the back, Kean probably said 'hang on a minute while I ask Mrs Desai.'
Very funny. What a plonker that Kean was.
I see Ferguson, Moyes, Pullis etc.etc.etc haven't offered him a job yet.
[quote][p][bold]merlinrabbit[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sturdy_Rover[/bold] wrote: TBF I never liked Robo there was no doubt he is committed to Rovers but his constant hoofing of the ball used to irritate the hell out of me. I mean sometimes there would be no pressure on the back four it would only make sense to retain possession and play from the back, but no let's hoof the ball and hope for the best!![/p][/quote]I think you will find that what the keeper does with the ball is 90% determined by how the manager wants his team to play, and 10% on taking the initiative if he sees an opportunity to do something quickly. Sam told him to go long, Berg tells him to let them play from the back, Kean probably said 'hang on a minute while I ask Mrs Desai.'[/p][/quote]Very funny. What a plonker that Kean was.[/p][/quote]I see Ferguson, Moyes, Pullis etc.etc.etc haven't offered him a job yet. Harwoodstblue
  • Score: 8

1:32pm Fri 23 Nov 12

Bazzer says...

handyamBRFC wrote:
Most fans of football would agree Paul Robinson is a good goalkeeper and he is BRFC number 1. He is tried and tested and having the right experience and the right age. There is no way we can let PaulR go to another club. He is worth 2- 3 million at the least. It would be difficult to replace PaulR as he is good. We are lucky that he didn't go to another premiership club but rather he stayed. That shows his loyalty. Brad was a great goalkeeper but he's getting on and he would be great as a GK coach and backup for PR and coaching the young ones. Ultimately., I can see BRFC being turned into a football academy. We need to get young lads & talented young players in to BRFC from around the world, have experienced playing staff around them to coach them and hopefully bring on some great potential players for BRFC.
"BRFC being turned into a football academy" what like Crewe Alex, you mean? Look at recent ex Rochdale players plying their trade in higher divisions...Holt, Lambert, Le Fondre, Murray, Dagnall, Dawson, O'Grady, Gilks, Buckley. It is holding on to players that is the Dale's big problem, and no doubt will be again for The Rovers. Like the old days......
[quote][p][bold]handyamBRFC[/bold] wrote: Most fans of football would agree Paul Robinson is a good goalkeeper and he is BRFC number 1. He is tried and tested and having the right experience and the right age. There is no way we can let PaulR go to another club. He is worth 2- 3 million at the least. It would be difficult to replace PaulR as he is good. We are lucky that he didn't go to another premiership club but rather he stayed. That shows his loyalty. Brad was a great goalkeeper but he's getting on and he would be great as a GK coach and backup for PR and coaching the young ones. Ultimately., I can see BRFC being turned into a football academy. We need to get young lads & talented young players in to BRFC from around the world, have experienced playing staff around them to coach them and hopefully bring on some great potential players for BRFC.[/p][/quote]"BRFC being turned into a football academy" what like Crewe Alex, you mean? Look at recent ex Rochdale players plying their trade in higher divisions...Holt, Lambert, Le Fondre, Murray, Dagnall, Dawson, O'Grady, Gilks, Buckley. It is holding on to players that is the Dale's big problem, and no doubt will be again for The Rovers. Like the old days...... Bazzer
  • Score: 3

2:08pm Fri 23 Nov 12

MxMave says...

I'd take Friedel back over Robbo anyday.

IMO Fiedel is the best keeper we have ever had at ewood. I remember the game where we beat arsenal in thier prime and Brad must have pulled off at least 20 world class saves. Whilst Robbo has good reaction speed, i'm struggling to remember a game where he was the out and out man of the match as Brad was so many many times.

LEGEND. Make it happen Berg.
I'd take Friedel back over Robbo anyday. IMO Fiedel is the best keeper we have ever had at ewood. I remember the game where we beat arsenal in thier prime and Brad must have pulled off at least 20 world class saves. Whilst Robbo has good reaction speed, i'm struggling to remember a game where he was the out and out man of the match as Brad was so many many times. LEGEND. Make it happen Berg. MxMave
  • Score: 4

2:34pm Fri 23 Nov 12

blueblooded says...

benal13 wrote:
xrayspex77 wrote:
dangerous dave wrote:
Yes this deal really as backfired on the Management at Ewood with reports in the National Press this morning that they were to let Paul Robinson go on a 'free transfer' - hope that this does not change Robinson's attitude in respect of loyalty to the club and especially the fans - he was one of the few that supported how the fans felt through the Kean fiasco!!!! OUT WITH SHAW AGNEW BLACK HENDRY SINGH VENKEYS
It's about time people shut up with all this who they want out. We are slowly moving forward so get behind the club and give it a rest.
take your blue and white xray spex off and let other people have an opinion as well as you, even if you dont agree with it .
i dont think xray is stopping him. hes just saying its time to shut up moaning about the establishment when we're starting to see positives again.

I agree with him, and I'm sure many do, judging by the negative thumbs down on his post, which I'm sure he'll some will say is the said establishment.

Actually most of us are just bored with tthe incessant "Out" rhetoric in his posts.

You have to read them to see that some people just want to dwell on any negative points they can find instead of hoping we can pull out of it and go on to greater things for the sake of the club and the fans.
[quote][p][bold]benal13[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]xrayspex77[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dangerous dave[/bold] wrote: Yes this deal really as backfired on the Management at Ewood with reports in the National Press this morning that they were to let Paul Robinson go on a 'free transfer' - hope that this does not change Robinson's attitude in respect of loyalty to the club and especially the fans - he was one of the few that supported how the fans felt through the Kean fiasco!!!! OUT WITH SHAW AGNEW BLACK HENDRY SINGH VENKEYS[/p][/quote]It's about time people shut up with all this who they want out. We are slowly moving forward so get behind the club and give it a rest.[/p][/quote]take your blue and white xray spex off and let other people have an opinion as well as you, even if you dont agree with it .[/p][/quote]i dont think xray is stopping him. hes just saying its time to shut up moaning about the establishment when we're starting to see positives again. I agree with him, and I'm sure many do, judging by the negative thumbs down on his post, which I'm sure he'll some will say is the said establishment. Actually most of us are just bored with tthe incessant "Out" rhetoric in his posts. You have to read them to see that some people just want to dwell on any negative points they can find instead of hoping we can pull out of it and go on to greater things for the sake of the club and the fans. blueblooded
  • Score: 8

3:25pm Fri 23 Nov 12

chegwin says...

The only reason Robinson was loyal is the £ 40 grand a week no one else would pay in the summer,the same goes for Pederson!
Loyalty my arse
Dangerous dave your a jerk
The only reason Robinson was loyal is the £ 40 grand a week no one else would pay in the summer,the same goes for Pederson! Loyalty my arse Dangerous dave your a jerk chegwin
  • Score: 0

3:26pm Fri 23 Nov 12

blueblooded says...

Vital Blackburn talks to BRAG

Earlier this week I posed some questions to Mark Fish of the Blackburn Rovers Action Group committee about several topics, including the Rovers Trust, BRAG as a group, and the role Blackburn Rovers can help the community.

Here is what he had to say.

1. Many see BRAG as the group which wanted to get 'Kean Out'. What happens now for the group? How do you move forward?

Whilst the protest movement itself had the purpose of removing the manager and indeed the protests were organised by the group, the BRFC Action Group`s primary goal has always been for a well run football club. From day one the group has always sought open, honest and transparent communication with the club and for this to be maintained.

The manager has now gone and the way in which the club is being run is in complete contrast to last season. The group is pro Blackburn Rovers Football Club and seeks to do what it can to help achieve on the field success for the team whilst at the same time trying to safeguard the rights of our members. The group has changed along with the football club and the group now has regular contact with the clubs administration and passes on concerns on behalf of its members.

In addition to some great community work the club is heavily involved in, the group also actively helps supporters and supporters groups when requested, for instance at the start of the season the group contacted the club regarding funding for the clubs ladies football team and helped secure a figure of £35,000 towards their costs, the group upon request, are currently involved in helping an established supporters group resolve a long standing issue and we receive a constant stream of correspondence from supporters from all walks of life and seek to immediately resolve these with the relevant department.

The group very much has supporter and club relations at the forefront of its mind and we will be announcing some big news next week which will open up even more opportunities for supporters to convey their thoughts to the club.

2. The BRAG committee seem to put a lot of hours into the running of the group. Is it more than you expected, and would you like more people to get involved to share the workload?

Certainly upon the formation of the groups committee some of us were already aware of the amount time being put it in by the organisers of the protests. Even in the early days I could quite regularly go all night without sleep. I think the committee members who were elected once the group was established, were surprised at how much actually happens on a day to day basis. All of the committee are in dialogue with each other throughout the day, every day, we need to be.

On an average week we have several meetings with various bodies and organisations which various committee members attend and our committee meetings when done by conference call can run through the night, they regularly begin at 8pm and I can still be in the same call 12 hours later. For instance on Friday night due to a series of meetings escalating rather quickly, myself and the groups chairman needed urgent discussions and I eventually left this call the following morning at 8am to prepare to travel down to Peterborough for Saturdays game, so without doubt I can safely say the hours going into the group are far more than anyone expected.

We are though very fortunate as a committee, in that we have some dedicated members of the group who are always on hand and willing to offer any support and help they can. I am asked on a daily basis by members if there is anything they can do to help, so one thing we are not short of is people willing to become involved. However one thing the group will be looking at in the New Year is to extend the committee back to at least its original number of 8 committee members, as there are many initiatives planned for 2013 which will require a lot of people`s time and commitment.

3. Blackburn Rovers plays a major part in the community of the town. What are BRAG doing to help build on this?

The group was very quick to point out to Shebby in the early days of his arrival at the club that the relationship between Blackburn Rovers and the community was fractured and needed a lot of work to ensure the rebuilding of those bridges. During Shebby`s time at the club, the BRFC Action Group have introduced him to many prominent community figureheads, such as the Mayor Zamir Khan, Council Leader Kate Hollern and Sir Bill Taylor.

The BRFC Action Group initiated a steering committee which will see the group propose community projects which can then be developed and implemented, Shebby was very keen to become involved in this initiative and meetings between the group, our honorary patron Maureen Bateson MBE, Shebby and the Council Leader are regular to ensure the full benefit of these projects are achieved.

In recent weeks the group proposed that the Council should select a group of 44 deserving children to attend Ewood Park for a home fixture, the group then liaised with Shebby Singh to incorporate a day of activities into this visit, including refreshments, quizzes, a ground tour, a half time penalty shoot-out and a chance to meet a Rovers star in addition to watching the game from the Ronnie Clayton Blackburn End.

The group have also organised and funded a trip to Blackpool illuminations for a group of children in October, in addition to donating 45 tickets to the Christmas pantomime at King Georges Hall for children to attend during their Christmas party organised by the Brown Cow Inn, as well as having many more community initiatives due to be announced in the coming weeks.

Community projects play a pivotal role in what the group is trying to achieve and by organising steering committees which bring together the club and the community the BRFC Action Group are certainly leading the way in repairing what was a fractured relationship.

I would like to thank Mark on behalf of Vital Blackburn for taking the time out of his busy schedule to speak to the website.

4. Do the BRFC Action Group support the Rovers Trust? And what are the reasons for that decision?

The BRFC Action Group is not currently in a position to endorse, nor reject the Rovers Trust. As a democratic supporters group with a wide array of opinions among our membership base it wouldn`t be right for the committee to make such a decision on behalf of our members.

Our role as elected committee members is to act in the interest of our members and on issues such as this, only those members can make the decision. It has been said that we should take the decision as a committee, however that goes against the grain of the group and despite having many BRFC Action Group members on the Rovers Trust steering committee, we have to listen to a wider range of members and give each of them an opportunity to be heard.

The group has allowed Rovers Trust to advertise within our membership packs but the groups official stance will remain impartial until the members of the group have been balloted.

5. Do you personally think the Rovers Trust is a good idea? What are the reasons for that decision?

I personally actively supported the initial BRSIT proposal as it was being sold to supporters at the time and this was to use their own words 'a disaster plan' which would come into place in the event the club hit the rocks and an alternative to Venkys was needed to rescue the club and maintain its existence. This concept is no longer a disaster plan.

As somebody who pledged to BRSIT myself, I also find it concerning that two parties merged and an entire concept was rewritten without consultation with those who had pledged into the scheme, if decisions like this can be taken without consultation it worries me on how much of an impact in decision making the members will have long term.

In addition to this, I am of the firm belief that for Rovers Trust to gather the required interest they would need to attract support from a wide variety of supporters. It concerns many including myself that there are people in key executive positions on the steering committee of the trust who have vociferously insulted and belittled the clubs supporters for not attending matches, whether it be for geographical reasons or financial restrictions. I am of the strong opinion that all supporters in the family that is Blackburn Rovers are equal and each is as important to the club as the next.

Words and insults cannot always be taken back and if supporter ownership is to ever become a reality at Blackburn Rovers, it can never involve those who don`t value over 95% of the fan base and consider them to be untrue supporters.

6. Will the Rovers Trust have any affect on the communication the fans currently have with the club?

The issue most supporters held over the previous two years was the lack of communication and transparency coming from the club. Steve Kean appeared to be above the board of directors in the food chain whilst being universally hated by the supporter base and the board of directors simply weren`t allowed to make key day to day decisions.

Today we have Henning Berg, a board of directors who are communicating with supporters, a representative of the owners who is actively interacting with various supporter organisations and has become a part of a number of steering committees within the community, whilst many of the supporters concerns have now been communicated back to India.

There is still much work to be done, however Venkys appear to be willing at the moment and any sort of movement from supporters at this stage may very well see them shut up shop in what is a crucial season for the club.

7. At a time when Rovers fans seem to finally be pulling in the same direction - supporting the team and manager - will the Rovers Trust cause more divide amongst fans?

It is a difficult question, it`s most certainly going to strongly divide opinion at the very least. A lot of supporters I have spoken to have particularly taken issue with the timing of it.

For 18 months supporters have waited for a supporters trust to take off the ground. When the idea of BRST was first mooted in the spring of 2011, I think the vast majority of supporters saw this potentially as a good thing. The same as when BRSIT originally launched in April 2012, it was at a time when supporter concern was at its greatest and the very future of the club was a concern.

However to launch or re-launch when the club has just begun its rebuilding process does not make any sense, after 18 months the pain and anguish among the supporters is finally easing, so why now? I think this will be one of the key questions on everybody`s lips this weekend.

8. This summer we have seen Rovers splash out, not only on transfer fees, but also on big wages. Do you think the trust could provide the same backing?

If a supporter`s trust had taken control of Blackburn Rovers in the summer just gone, we wouldn`t have seen the money spent on players to make the team competitive this season. The money simply would not be there to bring in a Jordan Rhodes or to sustain the wages of a Nuno Gomes.

For over a decade we were ran by John Williams, believed by many to be one of the best chairmen in the game. He ran a tight ship and we gained the tag of a selling club and regularly made massive losses in the transfer windows to manage the clubs growing debts. It`s difficult to see how a club like Blackburn Rovers could become self financing and the worry under a supporters trust would be on what level the club would need to drop down to before it became remotely possible to achieve this.

9. Do you think there are any better ways in which the club could incorporate the fans?

I think the club are doing it right at the moment. Two of the newly appointed directors, Derek Shaw and Paul Agnew are both talking to supporters` representation regularly and are actively seeking ways to push on and move the club forward. The owners are now working with both the club and the community via Shebby Singh who is instrumental in many of the projects currently in place.

Many of the towns figureheads from the Mayor of the borough to the Council are delighted with the progress made since the summer, the communication lines between club and community are back open and are beginning to bear fruits.

We as a group are taking part in many steering committees within the community and the Owners are inviting the group to take the lead in many projects which will be of benefit to the community.

There are still big strides to be made, however the progress around the club over the last 4 months has been encouraging, a breath of fresh air and the commitment shown by those currently involved at Ewood Park who are working towards building the bridges can only be commended.

10. Even if Rovers Trust could find the sort of money to buy a stake in the club, do you think Venkys would sell?

No, Venkys have never really given any indication that they are in this for anything other than the long haul, and indeed on many occasions have stated exactly this, so certainly no full sale is on the horizon. From my personal dialogue with the clubs key officials I can state with complete confidence that the owners would not even consider selling even a small stake to this entity.

I think the investment into the team over the summer, together with the investment being put into the academy to achieve category one status, suggests the owners are planning for the long term.

I am of the opinion that should the owners have a dramatic change of heart and decide to sell tomorrow, then better options should be sought. There was a takeover package put in place by Seneca in the latter stages of last season, this take over package was prepared quickly, quietly and professionally in the event an opportunity arises. This option has far more football experience and financial clout with investors on board to ensure that the clubs financial future is not jeopardised.


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Vital Blackburn talks to BRAG Earlier this week I posed some questions to Mark Fish of the Blackburn Rovers Action Group committee about several topics, including the Rovers Trust, BRAG as a group, and the role Blackburn Rovers can help the community. Here is what he had to say. 1. Many see BRAG as the group which wanted to get 'Kean Out'. What happens now for the group? How do you move forward? Whilst the protest movement itself had the purpose of removing the manager and indeed the protests were organised by the group, the BRFC Action Group`s primary goal has always been for a well run football club. From day one the group has always sought open, honest and transparent communication with the club and for this to be maintained. The manager has now gone and the way in which the club is being run is in complete contrast to last season. The group is pro Blackburn Rovers Football Club and seeks to do what it can to help achieve on the field success for the team whilst at the same time trying to safeguard the rights of our members. The group has changed along with the football club and the group now has regular contact with the clubs administration and passes on concerns on behalf of its members. In addition to some great community work the club is heavily involved in, the group also actively helps supporters and supporters groups when requested, for instance at the start of the season the group contacted the club regarding funding for the clubs ladies football team and helped secure a figure of £35,000 towards their costs, the group upon request, are currently involved in helping an established supporters group resolve a long standing issue and we receive a constant stream of correspondence from supporters from all walks of life and seek to immediately resolve these with the relevant department. The group very much has supporter and club relations at the forefront of its mind and we will be announcing some big news next week which will open up even more opportunities for supporters to convey their thoughts to the club. 2. The BRAG committee seem to put a lot of hours into the running of the group. Is it more than you expected, and would you like more people to get involved to share the workload? Certainly upon the formation of the groups committee some of us were already aware of the amount time being put it in by the organisers of the protests. Even in the early days I could quite regularly go all night without sleep. I think the committee members who were elected once the group was established, were surprised at how much actually happens on a day to day basis. All of the committee are in dialogue with each other throughout the day, every day, we need to be. On an average week we have several meetings with various bodies and organisations which various committee members attend and our committee meetings when done by conference call can run through the night, they regularly begin at 8pm and I can still be in the same call 12 hours later. For instance on Friday night due to a series of meetings escalating rather quickly, myself and the groups chairman needed urgent discussions and I eventually left this call the following morning at 8am to prepare to travel down to Peterborough for Saturdays game, so without doubt I can safely say the hours going into the group are far more than anyone expected. We are though very fortunate as a committee, in that we have some dedicated members of the group who are always on hand and willing to offer any support and help they can. I am asked on a daily basis by members if there is anything they can do to help, so one thing we are not short of is people willing to become involved. However one thing the group will be looking at in the New Year is to extend the committee back to at least its original number of 8 committee members, as there are many initiatives planned for 2013 which will require a lot of people`s time and commitment. 3. Blackburn Rovers plays a major part in the community of the town. What are BRAG doing to help build on this? The group was very quick to point out to Shebby in the early days of his arrival at the club that the relationship between Blackburn Rovers and the community was fractured and needed a lot of work to ensure the rebuilding of those bridges. During Shebby`s time at the club, the BRFC Action Group have introduced him to many prominent community figureheads, such as the Mayor Zamir Khan, Council Leader Kate Hollern and Sir Bill Taylor. The BRFC Action Group initiated a steering committee which will see the group propose community projects which can then be developed and implemented, Shebby was very keen to become involved in this initiative and meetings between the group, our honorary patron Maureen Bateson MBE, Shebby and the Council Leader are regular to ensure the full benefit of these projects are achieved. In recent weeks the group proposed that the Council should select a group of 44 deserving children to attend Ewood Park for a home fixture, the group then liaised with Shebby Singh to incorporate a day of activities into this visit, including refreshments, quizzes, a ground tour, a half time penalty shoot-out and a chance to meet a Rovers star in addition to watching the game from the Ronnie Clayton Blackburn End. The group have also organised and funded a trip to Blackpool illuminations for a group of children in October, in addition to donating 45 tickets to the Christmas pantomime at King Georges Hall for children to attend during their Christmas party organised by the Brown Cow Inn, as well as having many more community initiatives due to be announced in the coming weeks. Community projects play a pivotal role in what the group is trying to achieve and by organising steering committees which bring together the club and the community the BRFC Action Group are certainly leading the way in repairing what was a fractured relationship. I would like to thank Mark on behalf of Vital Blackburn for taking the time out of his busy schedule to speak to the website. 4. Do the BRFC Action Group support the Rovers Trust? And what are the reasons for that decision? The BRFC Action Group is not currently in a position to endorse, nor reject the Rovers Trust. As a democratic supporters group with a wide array of opinions among our membership base it wouldn`t be right for the committee to make such a decision on behalf of our members. Our role as elected committee members is to act in the interest of our members and on issues such as this, only those members can make the decision. It has been said that we should take the decision as a committee, however that goes against the grain of the group and despite having many BRFC Action Group members on the Rovers Trust steering committee, we have to listen to a wider range of members and give each of them an opportunity to be heard. The group has allowed Rovers Trust to advertise within our membership packs but the groups official stance will remain impartial until the members of the group have been balloted. 5. Do you personally think the Rovers Trust is a good idea? What are the reasons for that decision? I personally actively supported the initial BRSIT proposal as it was being sold to supporters at the time and this was to use their own words 'a disaster plan' which would come into place in the event the club hit the rocks and an alternative to Venkys was needed to rescue the club and maintain its existence. This concept is no longer a disaster plan. As somebody who pledged to BRSIT myself, I also find it concerning that two parties merged and an entire concept was rewritten without consultation with those who had pledged into the scheme, if decisions like this can be taken without consultation it worries me on how much of an impact in decision making the members will have long term. In addition to this, I am of the firm belief that for Rovers Trust to gather the required interest they would need to attract support from a wide variety of supporters. It concerns many including myself that there are people in key executive positions on the steering committee of the trust who have vociferously insulted and belittled the clubs supporters for not attending matches, whether it be for geographical reasons or financial restrictions. I am of the strong opinion that all supporters in the family that is Blackburn Rovers are equal and each is as important to the club as the next. Words and insults cannot always be taken back and if supporter ownership is to ever become a reality at Blackburn Rovers, it can never involve those who don`t value over 95% of the fan base and consider them to be untrue supporters. 6. Will the Rovers Trust have any affect on the communication the fans currently have with the club? The issue most supporters held over the previous two years was the lack of communication and transparency coming from the club. Steve Kean appeared to be above the board of directors in the food chain whilst being universally hated by the supporter base and the board of directors simply weren`t allowed to make key day to day decisions. Today we have Henning Berg, a board of directors who are communicating with supporters, a representative of the owners who is actively interacting with various supporter organisations and has become a part of a number of steering committees within the community, whilst many of the supporters concerns have now been communicated back to India. There is still much work to be done, however Venkys appear to be willing at the moment and any sort of movement from supporters at this stage may very well see them shut up shop in what is a crucial season for the club. 7. At a time when Rovers fans seem to finally be pulling in the same direction - supporting the team and manager - will the Rovers Trust cause more divide amongst fans? It is a difficult question, it`s most certainly going to strongly divide opinion at the very least. A lot of supporters I have spoken to have particularly taken issue with the timing of it. For 18 months supporters have waited for a supporters trust to take off the ground. When the idea of BRST was first mooted in the spring of 2011, I think the vast majority of supporters saw this potentially as a good thing. The same as when BRSIT originally launched in April 2012, it was at a time when supporter concern was at its greatest and the very future of the club was a concern. However to launch or re-launch when the club has just begun its rebuilding process does not make any sense, after 18 months the pain and anguish among the supporters is finally easing, so why now? I think this will be one of the key questions on everybody`s lips this weekend. 8. This summer we have seen Rovers splash out, not only on transfer fees, but also on big wages. Do you think the trust could provide the same backing? If a supporter`s trust had taken control of Blackburn Rovers in the summer just gone, we wouldn`t have seen the money spent on players to make the team competitive this season. The money simply would not be there to bring in a Jordan Rhodes or to sustain the wages of a Nuno Gomes. For over a decade we were ran by John Williams, believed by many to be one of the best chairmen in the game. He ran a tight ship and we gained the tag of a selling club and regularly made massive losses in the transfer windows to manage the clubs growing debts. It`s difficult to see how a club like Blackburn Rovers could become self financing and the worry under a supporters trust would be on what level the club would need to drop down to before it became remotely possible to achieve this. 9. Do you think there are any better ways in which the club could incorporate the fans? I think the club are doing it right at the moment. Two of the newly appointed directors, Derek Shaw and Paul Agnew are both talking to supporters` representation regularly and are actively seeking ways to push on and move the club forward. The owners are now working with both the club and the community via Shebby Singh who is instrumental in many of the projects currently in place. Many of the towns figureheads from the Mayor of the borough to the Council are delighted with the progress made since the summer, the communication lines between club and community are back open and are beginning to bear fruits. We as a group are taking part in many steering committees within the community and the Owners are inviting the group to take the lead in many projects which will be of benefit to the community. There are still big strides to be made, however the progress around the club over the last 4 months has been encouraging, a breath of fresh air and the commitment shown by those currently involved at Ewood Park who are working towards building the bridges can only be commended. 10. Even if Rovers Trust could find the sort of money to buy a stake in the club, do you think Venkys would sell? No, Venkys have never really given any indication that they are in this for anything other than the long haul, and indeed on many occasions have stated exactly this, so certainly no full sale is on the horizon. From my personal dialogue with the clubs key officials I can state with complete confidence that the owners would not even consider selling even a small stake to this entity. I think the investment into the team over the summer, together with the investment being put into the academy to achieve category one status, suggests the owners are planning for the long term. I am of the opinion that should the owners have a dramatic change of heart and decide to sell tomorrow, then better options should be sought. There was a takeover package put in place by Seneca in the latter stages of last season, this take over package was prepared quickly, quietly and professionally in the event an opportunity arises. This option has far more football experience and financial clout with investors on board to ensure that the clubs financial future is not jeopardised. Read more: http://www.blackburn .vitalfootball.co.uk /article.asp?a=30070 8&utm_source=twitter feed&utm_medium=twit ter#ixzz2D3jAz65z blueblooded
  • Score: -2

3:34pm Fri 23 Nov 12

ChrisDeBerg says...

blueblooded wrote:
benal13 wrote:
xrayspex77 wrote:
dangerous dave wrote:
Yes this deal really as backfired on the Management at Ewood with reports in the National Press this morning that they were to let Paul Robinson go on a 'free transfer' - hope that this does not change Robinson's attitude in respect of loyalty to the club and especially the fans - he was one of the few that supported how the fans felt through the Kean fiasco!!!! OUT WITH SHAW AGNEW BLACK HENDRY SINGH VENKEYS
It's about time people shut up with all this who they want out. We are slowly moving forward so get behind the club and give it a rest.
take your blue and white xray spex off and let other people have an opinion as well as you, even if you dont agree with it .
i dont think xray is stopping him. hes just saying its time to shut up moaning about the establishment when we're starting to see positives again.

I agree with him, and I'm sure many do, judging by the negative thumbs down on his post, which I'm sure he'll some will say is the said establishment.

Actually most of us are just bored with tthe incessant "Out" rhetoric in his posts.

You have to read them to see that some people just want to dwell on any negative points they can find instead of hoping we can pull out of it and go on to greater things for the sake of the club and the fans.
SHAW AGNEW BLACK HENDRY SINGH VENKEYS

Yeah, and even if we look at it another way...

SHAW - Name something he has done wrong to deserve the OUT??

AGNEW - A bit quiet but same as above..

BLACK - Thought he handled us reasonably well between getting rid of Kean and appointing Berg.. Gave Berg a better starting ground to work with.

HENDRY - Possibly the most deserved of the mindless comment summary, but only in personal 'accusations'... Can anyone comment on his defensive training... Berg? Seems to want to keep him, so he must be doing something right!

SINGH - Bit of a loose cannon, but at least he can speak Venkys language and they trust him to make decisions for them.

And finally the Venkys, as much as we all think they're a bunch of plonkers.. They have put a large sum of money back from the money they've taken out, so it's not the major asset strip I thought it was 12 months ago...

SO before you comment with the silly ending Dave, actually think how much people are starting to get annoyed with your rant, soon we will all end our comments with....

DANGEROUS DAVE OUT! lol

RTID
[quote][p][bold]blueblooded[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]benal13[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]xrayspex77[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dangerous dave[/bold] wrote: Yes this deal really as backfired on the Management at Ewood with reports in the National Press this morning that they were to let Paul Robinson go on a 'free transfer' - hope that this does not change Robinson's attitude in respect of loyalty to the club and especially the fans - he was one of the few that supported how the fans felt through the Kean fiasco!!!! OUT WITH SHAW AGNEW BLACK HENDRY SINGH VENKEYS[/p][/quote]It's about time people shut up with all this who they want out. We are slowly moving forward so get behind the club and give it a rest.[/p][/quote]take your blue and white xray spex off and let other people have an opinion as well as you, even if you dont agree with it .[/p][/quote]i dont think xray is stopping him. hes just saying its time to shut up moaning about the establishment when we're starting to see positives again. I agree with him, and I'm sure many do, judging by the negative thumbs down on his post, which I'm sure he'll some will say is the said establishment. Actually most of us are just bored with tthe incessant "Out" rhetoric in his posts. You have to read them to see that some people just want to dwell on any negative points they can find instead of hoping we can pull out of it and go on to greater things for the sake of the club and the fans.[/p][/quote]SHAW AGNEW BLACK HENDRY SINGH VENKEYS Yeah, and even if we look at it another way... SHAW - Name something he has done wrong to deserve the OUT?? AGNEW - A bit quiet but same as above.. BLACK - Thought he handled us reasonably well between getting rid of Kean and appointing Berg.. Gave Berg a better starting ground to work with. HENDRY - Possibly the most deserved of the mindless comment summary, but only in personal 'accusations'... Can anyone comment on his defensive training... Berg? Seems to want to keep him, so he must be doing something right! SINGH - Bit of a loose cannon, but at least he can speak Venkys language and they trust him to make decisions for them. And finally the Venkys, as much as we all think they're a bunch of plonkers.. They have put a large sum of money back from the money they've taken out, so it's not the major asset strip I thought it was 12 months ago... SO before you comment with the silly ending Dave, actually think how much people are starting to get annoyed with your rant, soon we will all end our comments with.... DANGEROUS DAVE OUT! lol RTID ChrisDeBerg
  • Score: 10

4:22pm Fri 23 Nov 12

Rovers75 says...

Harwoodstblue wrote:
merlinrabbit wrote:
greenscreener wrote:
Sturdy_Rover wrote:
TBF I never liked Robo there was no doubt he is committed to Rovers but his constant hoofing of the ball used to irritate the hell out of me. I mean sometimes there would be no pressure on the back four it would only make sense to retain possession and play from the back, but no let's hoof the ball and hope for the best!!
I think you will find that what the keeper does with the ball is 90% determined by how the manager wants his team to play, and 10% on taking the initiative if he sees an opportunity to do something quickly.

Sam told him to go long, Berg tells him to let them play from the back, Kean probably said 'hang on a minute while I ask Mrs Desai.'
Very funny. What a plonker that Kean was.
I see Ferguson, Moyes, Pullis etc.etc.etc haven't offered him a job yet.
That's probably because they don't want stabbing in the back by the lying drunk.... either that or they know they'd inferior to his genius footballing mind! lol
[quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]merlinrabbit[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sturdy_Rover[/bold] wrote: TBF I never liked Robo there was no doubt he is committed to Rovers but his constant hoofing of the ball used to irritate the hell out of me. I mean sometimes there would be no pressure on the back four it would only make sense to retain possession and play from the back, but no let's hoof the ball and hope for the best!![/p][/quote]I think you will find that what the keeper does with the ball is 90% determined by how the manager wants his team to play, and 10% on taking the initiative if he sees an opportunity to do something quickly. Sam told him to go long, Berg tells him to let them play from the back, Kean probably said 'hang on a minute while I ask Mrs Desai.'[/p][/quote]Very funny. What a plonker that Kean was.[/p][/quote]I see Ferguson, Moyes, Pullis etc.etc.etc haven't offered him a job yet.[/p][/quote]That's probably because they don't want stabbing in the back by the lying drunk.... either that or they know they'd inferior to his genius footballing mind! lol Rovers75
  • Score: 5

5:04pm Fri 23 Nov 12

dangerous dave says...

chegwin - the type of remark that has set 'fan against fan' - for that you are to be congratulated!!!!!! Everyone is entitled to an opinion.
OUT WITH SHAW AGNEW SINGH BLACK HENDRY VENKEYS
chegwin - the type of remark that has set 'fan against fan' - for that you are to be congratulated!!!!!! Everyone is entitled to an opinion. OUT WITH SHAW AGNEW SINGH BLACK HENDRY VENKEYS dangerous dave
  • Score: 0

5:10pm Fri 23 Nov 12

Return of the Magnificent se7en says...

Robinson is a good keeper, but Friedel is a better one.
Robos game is differrnt than Friedels who prefers throwing is out quickly to someone in space. Robbo prefers waving everyone forward and giving it a big HOOF.
The Hoofball has gone now and hooves are wanted by West Ham so they can play Hoofball on the moon.Pity it didn't happen, I think the only stumbling Block was Spuds £45 million price tag
Robinson is a good keeper, but Friedel is a better one. Robos game is differrnt than Friedels who prefers throwing is out quickly to someone in space. Robbo prefers waving everyone forward and giving it a big HOOF. The Hoofball has gone now and hooves are wanted by West Ham so they can play Hoofball on the moon.Pity it didn't happen, I think the only stumbling Block was Spuds £45 million price tag Return of the Magnificent se7en
  • Score: 0

5:50pm Fri 23 Nov 12

Return of the Magnificent se7en says...

Hughes Gone???
Hughes Gone??? Return of the Magnificent se7en
  • Score: 0

6:11pm Fri 23 Nov 12

stick to football says...

Football is a game of opinions - both Freidl and Robinson have served Rovers well - no doubt about it.

Managers have their own opinions too as we saw with Steve Kean so it is to be expected H.B. will have his own view.

Friedels strength was in organising the defence in front of him - and that is something we lack at the moment

I personally would like to see Friedel as Assistant Manager/ Player with Black as Coach but from the quiet way Berg has gone about his role I trust him and look forward to the future with optimism - long time since I have felt that
Football is a game of opinions - both Freidl and Robinson have served Rovers well - no doubt about it. Managers have their own opinions too as we saw with Steve Kean so it is to be expected H.B. will have his own view. Friedels strength was in organising the defence in front of him - and that is something we lack at the moment I personally would like to see Friedel as Assistant Manager/ Player with Black as Coach but from the quiet way Berg has gone about his role I trust him and look forward to the future with optimism - long time since I have felt that stick to football
  • Score: 2

6:35pm Fri 23 Nov 12

Captain Dreckley says...

On paper we have a wealth of striking talent but, although Berg is getting the interplay better, Rhodes still isn't receiving the best link up and supply to get the best out of him. One player doesn't make a team but Rhodes has shown that he is a little special and, given the service, will score for fun. The thought of Rhodes and Best is frightening for the opposition but that won't happen till January at the earliest and we cannot risk not being in contention so if Berg thinks King can do a job let's give him a chance. In Berg we trust. For January, other than a centre half we need a Tugay. We also need to work out where we play Charlie Austin. Another three points tomorrow boys as we get that winning feeling back.
On paper we have a wealth of striking talent but, although Berg is getting the interplay better, Rhodes still isn't receiving the best link up and supply to get the best out of him. One player doesn't make a team but Rhodes has shown that he is a little special and, given the service, will score for fun. The thought of Rhodes and Best is frightening for the opposition but that won't happen till January at the earliest and we cannot risk not being in contention so if Berg thinks King can do a job let's give him a chance. In Berg we trust. For January, other than a centre half we need a Tugay. We also need to work out where we play Charlie Austin. Another three points tomorrow boys as we get that winning feeling back. Captain Dreckley
  • Score: 9

7:09pm Fri 23 Nov 12

forever_rovers says...

dangerous dave wrote:
chegwin - the type of remark that has set 'fan against fan' - for that you are to be congratulated!!!!!! Everyone is entitled to an opinion.
OUT WITH SHAW AGNEW SINGH BLACK HENDRY VENKEYS
Yawn...owners don't leave because you ask them to.

In with Rovers fans backing Berg and his team.
[quote][p][bold]dangerous dave[/bold] wrote: chegwin - the type of remark that has set 'fan against fan' - for that you are to be congratulated!!!!!! Everyone is entitled to an opinion. OUT WITH SHAW AGNEW SINGH BLACK HENDRY VENKEYS[/p][/quote]Yawn...owners don't leave because you ask them to. In with Rovers fans backing Berg and his team. forever_rovers
  • Score: 3

7:43pm Fri 23 Nov 12

pepperpot2296 says...

With reference to blueblooded interview with BRAG what absolute load of boring old tosh,so long winded and such a waste of space did not read past Question one.
With reference to blueblooded interview with BRAG what absolute load of boring old tosh,so long winded and such a waste of space did not read past Question one. pepperpot2296
  • Score: 0

8:47pm Fri 23 Nov 12

Babbar Divino says...

pepperpot2296 wrote:
With reference to blueblooded interview with BRAG what absolute load of boring old tosh,so long winded and such a waste of space did not read past Question one.
Agreed I have another question

11. What happened to all the talk about proof of dodgy deals. Revelations that would rock football. FA looking into it. Meetings with Scudamore. Hush hush can't say anything etc.

Now Kean's gone have these dodgy deals also gone away did they never happen?
[quote][p][bold]pepperpot2296[/bold] wrote: With reference to blueblooded interview with BRAG what absolute load of boring old tosh,so long winded and such a waste of space did not read past Question one.[/p][/quote]Agreed I have another question 11. What happened to all the talk about proof of dodgy deals. Revelations that would rock football. FA looking into it. Meetings with Scudamore. Hush hush can't say anything etc. Now Kean's gone have these dodgy deals also gone away did they never happen? Babbar Divino
  • Score: 5

9:00pm Fri 23 Nov 12

moh says...

forever_rovers wrote:
dangerous dave wrote:
chegwin - the type of remark that has set 'fan against fan' - for that you are to be congratulated!!!!!! Everyone is entitled to an opinion.
OUT WITH SHAW AGNEW SINGH BLACK HENDRY VENKEYS
Yawn...owners don't leave because you ask them to.

In with Rovers fans backing Berg and his team.
out with negative fans, In with club,players and owners.
[quote][p][bold]forever_rovers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dangerous dave[/bold] wrote: chegwin - the type of remark that has set 'fan against fan' - for that you are to be congratulated!!!!!! Everyone is entitled to an opinion. OUT WITH SHAW AGNEW SINGH BLACK HENDRY VENKEYS[/p][/quote]Yawn...owners don't leave because you ask them to. In with Rovers fans backing Berg and his team.[/p][/quote]out with negative fans, In with club,players and owners. moh
  • Score: 2

9:16pm Fri 23 Nov 12

Ewood say that! says...

sorry to go off on a tangent.does anyone remember the rovers line up for fa cup v coventry in 1980 where we won 1-0?i was there but me and mates cant agree on team.cheers!
sorry to go off on a tangent.does anyone remember the rovers line up for fa cup v coventry in 1980 where we won 1-0?i was there but me and mates cant agree on team.cheers! Ewood say that!
  • Score: 0

9:30pm Fri 23 Nov 12

merlinrabbit says...

chegwin wrote:
The only reason Robinson was loyal is the £ 40 grand a week no one else would pay in the summer,the same goes for Pederson!
Loyalty my arse
Dangerous dave your a jerk
Think you are being harsh there with Pedersen. Rovers fans have got used to being distrusting of everbodys motives. Can we not accept that Pedersen has some loyalty and is settled at one club?
[quote][p][bold]chegwin[/bold] wrote: The only reason Robinson was loyal is the £ 40 grand a week no one else would pay in the summer,the same goes for Pederson! Loyalty my arse Dangerous dave your a jerk[/p][/quote]Think you are being harsh there with Pedersen. Rovers fans have got used to being distrusting of everbodys motives. Can we not accept that Pedersen has some loyalty and is settled at one club? merlinrabbit
  • Score: 1

9:34pm Fri 23 Nov 12

blueblooded says...

pepperpot2296 wrote:
With reference to blueblooded interview with BRAG what absolute load of boring old tosh,so long winded and such a waste of space did not read past Question one.
Wasn't my interview but thanks anyway for the appreciation.

Lowest form of wit but effective just the same.
[quote][p][bold]pepperpot2296[/bold] wrote: With reference to blueblooded interview with BRAG what absolute load of boring old tosh,so long winded and such a waste of space did not read past Question one.[/p][/quote]Wasn't my interview but thanks anyway for the appreciation. Lowest form of wit but effective just the same. blueblooded
  • Score: 1

9:59pm Fri 23 Nov 12

blueblooded says...

Ask smelly, he's the Oracle of all that is make believe.

Actually the article highlights the determination of the same people who appear to be desperate as smelly to get their paws on the club. It's interesting that BRAG are seeing this and the detrimental effect any action could have on the recent upturn of the club's fortunes.

There appears now to be two very distinct camps:

Those that accept that mistakes have been made by the owners and management but seems to be at least trying to rectify them - regardless of whatever motives one chooses to believe, financial or good intention.

And those who seemingly appear to have their own agendas not necessarily of the best interests of the club, whether they believe it or not, who do not believe Venky's can make good and are preparing for what they probably believe to be the inevitable. What makes the latter appear more sinister is the willingness to accept all negative theories attached to the purchase of the club and the owners intentions for purchasing it.

I would, also like to see the dodgy dossier that was going to bring the Venky's empire crumbling down and the evidence that was so damning that apparently shocked Scudamore and had politicians demanding and investigation on what was being touted as an almost Watergate scandal. I'm with BRAG on their assessment of the Trust situation and also what was said about the vitriol to fans, I suspect at least a few of them have at one time or another, frequented the LET articles, judging by some of the comments posted at the time and then since.

Happily there are a lot more of us supporters who want only to see the club prosper than to force it into administration to further their own ambitions and agendas.
Ask smelly, he's the Oracle of all that is make believe. Actually the article highlights the determination of the same people who appear to be desperate as smelly to get their paws on the club. It's interesting that BRAG are seeing this and the detrimental effect any action could have on the recent upturn of the club's fortunes. There appears now to be two very distinct camps: Those that accept that mistakes have been made by the owners and management but seems to be at least trying to rectify them - regardless of whatever motives one chooses to believe, financial or good intention. And those who seemingly appear to have their own agendas not necessarily of the best interests of the club, whether they believe it or not, who do not believe Venky's can make good and are preparing for what they probably believe to be the inevitable. What makes the latter appear more sinister is the willingness to accept all negative theories attached to the purchase of the club and the owners intentions for purchasing it. I would, also like to see the dodgy dossier that was going to bring the Venky's empire crumbling down and the evidence that was so damning that apparently shocked Scudamore and had politicians demanding and investigation on what was being touted as an almost Watergate scandal. I'm with BRAG on their assessment of the Trust situation and also what was said about the vitriol to fans, I suspect at least a few of them have at one time or another, frequented the LET articles, judging by some of the comments posted at the time and then since. Happily there are a lot more of us supporters who want only to see the club prosper than to force it into administration to further their own ambitions and agendas. blueblooded
  • Score: 2

10:00pm Fri 23 Nov 12

realisticrovers says...

merlinrabbit wrote:
greenscreener wrote:
Sturdy_Rover wrote:
TBF I never liked Robo there was no doubt he is committed to Rovers but his constant hoofing of the ball used to irritate the hell out of me. I mean sometimes there would be no pressure on the back four it would only make sense to retain possession and play from the back, but no let's hoof the ball and hope for the best!!
I think you will find that what the keeper does with the ball is 90% determined by how the manager wants his team to play, and 10% on taking the initiative if he sees an opportunity to do something quickly.

Sam told him to go long, Berg tells him to let them play from the back, Kean probably said 'hang on a minute while I ask Mrs Desai.'
Very funny. What a plonker that Kean was.
Plunder ain't the word........... I would use somethng different but all I'd get is ****
[quote][p][bold]merlinrabbit[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sturdy_Rover[/bold] wrote: TBF I never liked Robo there was no doubt he is committed to Rovers but his constant hoofing of the ball used to irritate the hell out of me. I mean sometimes there would be no pressure on the back four it would only make sense to retain possession and play from the back, but no let's hoof the ball and hope for the best!![/p][/quote]I think you will find that what the keeper does with the ball is 90% determined by how the manager wants his team to play, and 10% on taking the initiative if he sees an opportunity to do something quickly. Sam told him to go long, Berg tells him to let them play from the back, Kean probably said 'hang on a minute while I ask Mrs Desai.'[/p][/quote]Very funny. What a plonker that Kean was.[/p][/quote]Plunder ain't the word........... I would use somethng different but all I'd get is **** realisticrovers
  • Score: 0

10:00pm Fri 23 Nov 12

realisticrovers says...

realisticrovers wrote:
merlinrabbit wrote:
greenscreener wrote:
Sturdy_Rover wrote:
TBF I never liked Robo there was no doubt he is committed to Rovers but his constant hoofing of the ball used to irritate the hell out of me. I mean sometimes there would be no pressure on the back four it would only make sense to retain possession and play from the back, but no let's hoof the ball and hope for the best!!
I think you will find that what the keeper does with the ball is 90% determined by how the manager wants his team to play, and 10% on taking the initiative if he sees an opportunity to do something quickly.

Sam told him to go long, Berg tells him to let them play from the back, Kean probably said 'hang on a minute while I ask Mrs Desai.'
Very funny. What a plonker that Kean was.
Plunder ain't the word........... I would use somethng different but all I'd get is ****
See told ya
[quote][p][bold]realisticrovers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]merlinrabbit[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sturdy_Rover[/bold] wrote: TBF I never liked Robo there was no doubt he is committed to Rovers but his constant hoofing of the ball used to irritate the hell out of me. I mean sometimes there would be no pressure on the back four it would only make sense to retain possession and play from the back, but no let's hoof the ball and hope for the best!![/p][/quote]I think you will find that what the keeper does with the ball is 90% determined by how the manager wants his team to play, and 10% on taking the initiative if he sees an opportunity to do something quickly. Sam told him to go long, Berg tells him to let them play from the back, Kean probably said 'hang on a minute while I ask Mrs Desai.'[/p][/quote]Very funny. What a plonker that Kean was.[/p][/quote]Plunder ain't the word........... I would use somethng different but all I'd get is ****[/p][/quote]See told ya realisticrovers
  • Score: 0

10:01pm Fri 23 Nov 12

blueblooded says...

Babbar Divino wrote:
pepperpot2296 wrote:
With reference to blueblooded interview with BRAG what absolute load of boring old tosh,so long winded and such a waste of space did not read past Question one.
Agreed I have another question

11. What happened to all the talk about proof of dodgy deals. Revelations that would rock football. FA looking into it. Meetings with Scudamore. Hush hush can't say anything etc.

Now Kean's gone have these dodgy deals also gone away did they never happen?
Comment below was in reply to you.
[quote][p][bold]Babbar Divino[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pepperpot2296[/bold] wrote: With reference to blueblooded interview with BRAG what absolute load of boring old tosh,so long winded and such a waste of space did not read past Question one.[/p][/quote]Agreed I have another question 11. What happened to all the talk about proof of dodgy deals. Revelations that would rock football. FA looking into it. Meetings with Scudamore. Hush hush can't say anything etc. Now Kean's gone have these dodgy deals also gone away did they never happen?[/p][/quote]Comment below was in reply to you. blueblooded
  • Score: 0

10:41pm Fri 23 Nov 12

morleyclaret says...

handyamBRFC wrote:
Most fans of football would agree Paul Robinson is a good goalkeeper and he is BRFC number 1. He is tried and tested and having the right experience and the right age. There is no way we can let PaulR go to another club. He is worth 2- 3 million at the least. It would be difficult to replace PaulR as he is good. We are lucky that he didn't go to another premiership club but rather he stayed. That shows his loyalty. Brad was a great goalkeeper but he's getting on and he would be great as a GK coach and backup for PR and coaching the young ones. Ultimately., I can see BRFC being turned into a football academy. We need to get young lads & talented young players in to BRFC from around the world, have experienced playing staff around them to coach them and hopefully bring on some great potential players for BRFC.
As a lifelong Burnley supporter , but mainly a supporter of football I totally agree with the last paragraph. BRFC are potentially a premiership outfit. They have the financial 'clout' - even if many of the fans don't like where the money comes from! Even so, to compete at the highest level there needs to be a good academy system in place so that young players come through the system to supplement the 'bought in ' players. Burnley FC can only exist at this level because of lower attendances and less financial clout.
I love my football and I make no apology for stating the obvious - even though I support the 'arch rivals'
One thing I am not prepared to do is litter this comments site with asterisked profanities which seem to be in evidence far too often! Mind you, I am really old now and remember the 1960s with fond memories of 'healthy banter' shared at both grounds and in the work place...........
[quote][p][bold]handyamBRFC[/bold] wrote: Most fans of football would agree Paul Robinson is a good goalkeeper and he is BRFC number 1. He is tried and tested and having the right experience and the right age. There is no way we can let PaulR go to another club. He is worth 2- 3 million at the least. It would be difficult to replace PaulR as he is good. We are lucky that he didn't go to another premiership club but rather he stayed. That shows his loyalty. Brad was a great goalkeeper but he's getting on and he would be great as a GK coach and backup for PR and coaching the young ones. Ultimately., I can see BRFC being turned into a football academy. We need to get young lads & talented young players in to BRFC from around the world, have experienced playing staff around them to coach them and hopefully bring on some great potential players for BRFC.[/p][/quote]As a lifelong Burnley supporter , but mainly a supporter of football I totally agree with the last paragraph. BRFC are potentially a premiership outfit. They have the financial 'clout' - even if many of the fans don't like where the money comes from! Even so, to compete at the highest level there needs to be a good academy system in place so that young players come through the system to supplement the 'bought in ' players. Burnley FC can only exist at this level because of lower attendances and less financial clout. I love my football and I make no apology for stating the obvious - even though I support the 'arch rivals' One thing I am not prepared to do is litter this comments site with asterisked profanities which seem to be in evidence far too often! Mind you, I am really old now and remember the 1960s with fond memories of 'healthy banter' shared at both grounds and in the work place........... morleyclaret
  • Score: 5

11:13pm Fri 23 Nov 12

kazluvsrovers says...

merlinrabbit wrote:
chegwin wrote:
The only reason Robinson was loyal is the £ 40 grand a week no one else would pay in the summer,the same goes for Pederson!
Loyalty my arse
Dangerous dave your a jerk
Think you are being harsh there with Pedersen. Rovers fans have got used to being distrusting of everbodys motives. Can we not accept that Pedersen has some loyalty and is settled at one club?
Totally agree with Merlinrabbit, I think Pedersen has been very loyal and is just one of the few players who also knows how much it means to us to beat the dingles (Dunny being another) he has spent many years with us now and I think the rovers fans should give him a break and let hm carry on with his excellent long throws, corners and free kicks, he is also one of our players who feeds Jordan Rhodes. He is a blue and white through and through!!!
Peds for Rovers......
[quote][p][bold]merlinrabbit[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]chegwin[/bold] wrote: The only reason Robinson was loyal is the £ 40 grand a week no one else would pay in the summer,the same goes for Pederson! Loyalty my arse Dangerous dave your a jerk[/p][/quote]Think you are being harsh there with Pedersen. Rovers fans have got used to being distrusting of everbodys motives. Can we not accept that Pedersen has some loyalty and is settled at one club?[/p][/quote]Totally agree with Merlinrabbit, I think Pedersen has been very loyal and is just one of the few players who also knows how much it means to us to beat the dingles (Dunny being another) he has spent many years with us now and I think the rovers fans should give him a break and let hm carry on with his excellent long throws, corners and free kicks, he is also one of our players who feeds Jordan Rhodes. He is a blue and white through and through!!! Peds for Rovers...... kazluvsrovers
  • Score: 1

11:43pm Fri 23 Nov 12

Return of the Magnificent se7en says...

This is more like it, sensible debate. Now that smelly is being probed by aliens.
So was the dodgey dossier made up?
This is more like it, sensible debate. Now that smelly is being probed by aliens. So was the dodgey dossier made up? Return of the Magnificent se7en
  • Score: 0

11:57pm Fri 23 Nov 12

greenscreener says...

morleyclaret wrote:
handyamBRFC wrote:
Most fans of football would agree Paul Robinson is a good goalkeeper and he is BRFC number 1. He is tried and tested and having the right experience and the right age. There is no way we can let PaulR go to another club. He is worth 2- 3 million at the least. It would be difficult to replace PaulR as he is good. We are lucky that he didn't go to another premiership club but rather he stayed. That shows his loyalty. Brad was a great goalkeeper but he's getting on and he would be great as a GK coach and backup for PR and coaching the young ones. Ultimately., I can see BRFC being turned into a football academy. We need to get young lads & talented young players in to BRFC from around the world, have experienced playing staff around them to coach them and hopefully bring on some great potential players for BRFC.
As a lifelong Burnley supporter , but mainly a supporter of football I totally agree with the last paragraph. BRFC are potentially a premiership outfit. They have the financial 'clout' - even if many of the fans don't like where the money comes from! Even so, to compete at the highest level there needs to be a good academy system in place so that young players come through the system to supplement the 'bought in ' players. Burnley FC can only exist at this level because of lower attendances and less financial clout.
I love my football and I make no apology for stating the obvious - even though I support the 'arch rivals'
One thing I am not prepared to do is litter this comments site with asterisked profanities which seem to be in evidence far too often! Mind you, I am really old now and remember the 1960s with fond memories of 'healthy banter' shared at both grounds and in the work place...........
Old enough to remember when Burnley had one of the best youth teams in the country then Morley !

Keep sharing your opinions old man, it is refreshing to see a coherent paragraph, don't let the ignorant minority take the fun out of our beautiful game.
[quote][p][bold]morleyclaret[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]handyamBRFC[/bold] wrote: Most fans of football would agree Paul Robinson is a good goalkeeper and he is BRFC number 1. He is tried and tested and having the right experience and the right age. There is no way we can let PaulR go to another club. He is worth 2- 3 million at the least. It would be difficult to replace PaulR as he is good. We are lucky that he didn't go to another premiership club but rather he stayed. That shows his loyalty. Brad was a great goalkeeper but he's getting on and he would be great as a GK coach and backup for PR and coaching the young ones. Ultimately., I can see BRFC being turned into a football academy. We need to get young lads & talented young players in to BRFC from around the world, have experienced playing staff around them to coach them and hopefully bring on some great potential players for BRFC.[/p][/quote]As a lifelong Burnley supporter , but mainly a supporter of football I totally agree with the last paragraph. BRFC are potentially a premiership outfit. They have the financial 'clout' - even if many of the fans don't like where the money comes from! Even so, to compete at the highest level there needs to be a good academy system in place so that young players come through the system to supplement the 'bought in ' players. Burnley FC can only exist at this level because of lower attendances and less financial clout. I love my football and I make no apology for stating the obvious - even though I support the 'arch rivals' One thing I am not prepared to do is litter this comments site with asterisked profanities which seem to be in evidence far too often! Mind you, I am really old now and remember the 1960s with fond memories of 'healthy banter' shared at both grounds and in the work place...........[/p][/quote]Old enough to remember when Burnley had one of the best youth teams in the country then Morley ! Keep sharing your opinions old man, it is refreshing to see a coherent paragraph, don't let the ignorant minority take the fun out of our beautiful game. greenscreener
  • Score: 2

12:38pm Sat 24 Nov 12

handyamBRFC says...

RESPECT....Lets make it happen...!!!
Lets make football worthy of respect..!
Lets make the North West be an area respected by all fans not just in England but everywhere on earth.
Instead of hatred let there be mutual respect for other teams, fans and society in general.

It was really nice to hear a Burnley Fan write on our BRFC board and he's clearly a football fan. We should salute all football fans and we must ensure that respect is paramount in our beautiful game.

Healthy banter about other teams is fine by me but i don't like the few mindless people who create hatred for all within our clubs. This hatred can lead to further misunderstandings between rival fans and communities.
Lets send these mindless haters of football & society to the rubbish bin where they belong.

I'm sure we would rather see all clubs in the North West do well which ensures healthy competition and raises the game of football in the area.

We football fans must always be respectful of the game of football, respect the players and the fans, lets not forget the management and administrators who run the clubs and above all else the owners who given time hopefully will continue to invest in our clubs in the North West.
RESPECT....Lets make it happen...!!! Lets make football worthy of respect..! Lets make the North West be an area respected by all fans not just in England but everywhere on earth. Instead of hatred let there be mutual respect for other teams, fans and society in general. It was really nice to hear a Burnley Fan write on our BRFC board and he's clearly a football fan. We should salute all football fans and we must ensure that respect is paramount in our beautiful game. Healthy banter about other teams is fine by me but i don't like the few mindless people who create hatred for all within our clubs. This hatred can lead to further misunderstandings between rival fans and communities. Lets send these mindless haters of football & society to the rubbish bin where they belong. I'm sure we would rather see all clubs in the North West do well which ensures healthy competition and raises the game of football in the area. We football fans must always be respectful of the game of football, respect the players and the fans, lets not forget the management and administrators who run the clubs and above all else the owners who given time hopefully will continue to invest in our clubs in the North West. handyamBRFC
  • Score: 0

1:07pm Sat 24 Nov 12

keanoutofrovers says...

Glad this deal faltered. Replacing Robinson with 41 year Brad would only work if we had a plan for the future and Jake Kean can't be considered for that role yet. If Robinson goes we would need Brad and one more keeper to take over at the end of the season. It makes the decision to let Bunn go seem foolish now which muppet sold Bunn................
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Glad this deal faltered. Replacing Robinson with 41 year Brad would only work if we had a plan for the future and Jake Kean can't be considered for that role yet. If Robinson goes we would need Brad and one more keeper to take over at the end of the season. It makes the decision to let Bunn go seem foolish now which muppet sold Bunn................ .................... ..? keanoutofrovers
  • Score: 0

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