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Country needs proper Labour

It’s no good belly-aching. Come up with some policies and some integrity and people might vote Labour again.

Blair and Brown ruined this country and it’s up to the present lot to somehow claw back some political credibility, which is there for the taking, but you've absolutely no chance with that wet blanket Milliband in charge.

If Labour had a strategy for making Britain great rather than a strategy for how to get back in power, they might find that people would get behind them.

The country is begging for a proper Labour Party that can represent working people and the poor.

Never mind wasting time and resources messing about with dreams of devolution, what people want to see is our MPs representing us rather than treating us with contempt.

Happycyclist (via email)

Comments(14)

burner says...
5:24pm Tue 7 Feb 12

Hi, happyc.
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Old Labour is out of date / redundant in 2012. Blair / Brown have done massive damage which will be hard to repair. Milliband is a potential disaster
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Now look at who is in power - not really representative of the current population.
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Do we need a Tea Party? Do we want a colony on the Moon? . . . We certainly want change, but it is not out there at the moment. BIG PROBLEM

Izanears says...
6:23pm Tue 7 Feb 12

Sorry Happy, but after five decades of voting, I have come to the conclusion that it does not matter which party or poltician you vote for, they are only in it for what THEY can get out of it. The way this country is going it will soon be like France was before the revolution.

sean_brfc says...
6:50pm Tue 7 Feb 12

Well happyc, feel free to get off your backside, enter politics yourself and proactively do something about it.

ToffeeGuy says...
10:52pm Tue 7 Feb 12

The rot set in with the laissez-faire monetarist policies introduced by the Thatcher governments in the 80s.

Blair and Brown in some way continued this, but they had little option with the country so over reliant on the City of London for wealth creation.

Coupled with personal over borrowing and relaxed banking rules (which happened in most Western countries except Germany) this led to the current mess we are in.

Hospitals, Schools and Infrastructure was invested in during the New Labour tenure so they didn't mess up completely.

Graham Hartley says...
11:39pm Tue 7 Feb 12

sean_brfc wrote:
Well happyc, feel free to get off your backside, enter politics yourself and proactively do something about it.
I am one of those happy sorts who will be happy to support happycycllist if hesh (he/she) chooses to enter the professional political arena.

Graham Hartley says...
11:43pm Tue 7 Feb 12

Happycyclist will be in any case one who gets off hir (his/her) backside, particularly when pedalling uphill. Innit.

mavrick says...
10:26am Wed 8 Feb 12

Labour needs to remember why it was created in the first place, the principles it was born from are still the same. people still want, health, education, decent housing, and decent jobs. peoples aspirations change over time, but the basics remain the same, untill labour get people of credibility back in their ranks they will not get re-elected.

Kevin, Colne says...
12:23pm Wed 8 Feb 12

We're living in quite extraordinary times. At the last General Election the Conservative Party couldn't 'seal the deal' with the voters and secure a working parliamentary majority despite a tired and largely discredited New Labour Government.

If you look at the political map of the United Kingdom what really strikes home is the fact that the Conservative Party is primarily a party of England, with few seats in Wales and even fewer in Scotland. Perhaps the seeds for this retreat into England can be traced back to the Party's rejection of One Nation Conservatism.

The problem for the Labour Party was, and is, that Old Labour simply couldn't secure a parliamentary majority and what is striking now about New Labour, and the Left in general, is their inability to make serious headway in the face of the greatest financial and economic crisis since The Great Depression.

Perhaps the problem for Labour rests with their association with the spectacular boom of the last decade and the subsequent bust.

This is the narrative around which hangs a great deal of current discourse yet the Great Credit Cycle had been running for many decades prior to New Labour gaining office.

New Labour drew the short straw and unfortunately happened to be in office when the music stopped.

The musical record of old is comprehensively smashed and I fear that it cannot be glued back together

midas says...
3:16pm Wed 8 Feb 12

ToffeeGuy wrote:
The rot set in with the laissez-faire monetarist policies introduced by the Thatcher governments in the 80s. Blair and Brown in some way continued this, but they had little option with the country so over reliant on the City of London for wealth creation. Coupled with personal over borrowing and relaxed banking rules (which happened in most Western countries except Germany) this led to the current mess we are in. Hospitals, Schools and Infrastructure was invested in during the New Labour tenure so they didn't mess up completely.
Hospitals, schools and Infrastructure were all paid for by PFI which just lined the pockets of New Liebours friends and has left a huge bill to be picked up by future generations! .
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Not sure about your take on German Banks, the first European bank to get into trouble was German! How many German banks have offices in the City of London?

Elegant1 says...
3:33pm Wed 8 Feb 12

I agree with a lot of what has been said and the feelings about the tories.
It is my experience that they have never been interested in the working class community.
Yes Old Labour did make a mess but certain things that happened were not of its making. They too were the victim of the banks and their profligate behaviour. Would it have been easier to let the banks go under due to that behaviour? Who knows? We can only speculate now!
What Labour needs now is a leader of some quality. I would think that Darling and David Miliband would be preferable to take the fight to Cameron and his like.
We cannot and should not stand by and allow the Thatcherite policies to become entrenched. Thatcher alone is responsible for the destruction of the fabric of oour society.
We need to fight back NOW!

Izanears says...
4:38pm Wed 8 Feb 12

Yes Old Labour did make a mess but certain things that happened were not of its making. They too were the victim of the banks and their profligate behaviour.
Just a minute Elegant1. Was not Gordon Brown an expert on finance. Did not he at a speech at the Mansion House praise bankers to the heavens. According to reports GB was warned more than once about the banks, but he turned a blind eye. It was also him who spent billions on daft schemes. It was him who vastly increased public sector jobs in an attempt to get votes.

happycyclist says...
5:38pm Wed 8 Feb 12

Guys, this wasn't a letter to the LT; it was a comment on the news story about the MP who wants devolution for the North West.
The LT are a bit naughty when they lift comments like this and dress them up as letters.
I haven't submitted a letter to the LT for at least two years.

happycyclist says...
5:44pm Wed 8 Feb 12

sean_brfc wrote:
Well happyc, feel free to get off your backside, enter politics yourself and proactively do something about it.
That's a cheap, lazy shot. We shouldn't have to stand as a politician to have an opinion on politics.

Graham Hartley says...
4:35pm Tue 14 Feb 12

happycyclist wrote:
Guys, this wasn't a letter to the LT; it was a comment on the news story about the MP who wants devolution for the North West.
The LT are a bit naughty when they lift comments like this and dress them up as letters.
I haven't submitted a letter to the LT for at least two years.
Agreed, happy: I've seen my remarks used in the print edition, though often they've been hacked to conform with the available space or some other constraint. Annoying...

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