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Other youths involved in Bacup skatepark attack named and jailed

4:40pm Monday 28th April 2008

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Photograph of the Author By Sally Henfield »

THREE teenagers who were involved in the attack on Sophie Lancaster's boyfriend have today been jailed and can be named for the first time after the judge lifted an order banning the press from identifying them.

Brothers Joseph, 17, and Danny Hulme, 16, both of Landgate, Whitworth, and Daniel Mallett, 17, of Rockcliffe Drive, Bacup, all pleaded guilty to grievous bodily harm with intent on Robert Maltby.

They did not take part in the attack on Sophie, the court was told.

Anthony Croft, representing Daniel Hulme said that the boys' parents were ashamed of what their sons had done.

Mallett was described as a "young man of real quality" by David Fish QC but he had been put on a curfew for a separate offence following Sophie's death.

Judge Russell jailed Mallett for four years and four months and the Hulme brothers for five years and 10 months each.

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HY, Bacup says...
4:31pm Mon 28 Apr 08

At last they are named! just as bad as the others in my opinion!

escaped, Spain says...
4:55pm Mon 28 Apr 08

They are all as bad as one another. Hang the lot of them and it will stop this sort of feral behaviour overnight.

Peter Fordham, Pego, Spain says...
6:03pm Mon 28 Apr 08

When will British Judges take murder seriously, these thugs have escaped with a slap on the wrist each.

andy, spain says...
9:09pm Mon 28 Apr 08

Guilty has anything just has bad has their CHAV boy friends. To their Families hope each and every one of your crap of sons get twenty days of the Brown Stuff kicked out of them. Judge Dredd youll have to wait a few years my friend. Judge Gimp they will be put in Young Offenders Unit probably Lancaster Farms or out of the County.

CM, Middleton says...
11:23am Tue 29 Apr 08

The Whole Lot Are Scum.

Mark, Rossendale says...
12:21pm Tue 29 Apr 08

"Anthony Croft, representing Daniel Hulme said that the boys' parents were ashamed of what their sons had done."

Bit fekkin late, why didn't they teach them respect? They might not have needed to be ashamed then!!! Too many people have no respect nowadays!

anon, Here says...
12:49pm Tue 29 Apr 08

Mark wrote:
"Anthony Croft, representing Daniel Hulme said that the boys' parents were ashamed of what their sons had done." Bit fekkin late, why didn't they teach them respect? They might not have needed to be ashamed then!!! Too many people have no respect nowadays!
And what about the sentence that followed it :
"Mallett was described as a "young man of real quality" by David Fish QC but he had been put on a curfew for a separate offence following Sophie's death."

D, shawforth says...
1:36pm Tue 29 Apr 08

doesnt the picture of Joe, just proves that he is still the cocky **** hes always been, no shame at all.

Angry, Just round t'corner says...
1:39pm Tue 29 Apr 08

Glad you and your "parents" found it so funny when you laughed and joked on the way to court, and when you got there.

Hope you find it as funny when you're treated with REAL justice whilst inside.

Burn in hell scum.

Lil ole me, The Burn says...
4:14pm Tue 29 Apr 08

What a fooking insult!! Laughing on his way into court, obviously no remorse for his actions.. Obviously the joke is his sentence!!

top cat, burnley says...
8:32pm Tue 29 Apr 08

any1 know these scum???theve a big suprise coming to them!!!

???, FarAwayLand says...
8:43pm Tue 29 Apr 08

SO WOT YOU'S TRYING TO SAY THEY CAN HAVE A LAUGH. AM SORRY BUT I THINK THEY CAN.Mark wrote:
"Anthony Croft, representing Daniel Hulme said that the boys' parents were ashamed of what their sons had done." Bit fekkin late, why didn't they teach them respect? They might not have needed to be ashamed then!!! Too many people have no respect nowadays!AND YEAH THEY ARE ASHAMED OF WHAT THERE 2 SONS HAVE DONE

me, nearby says...
9:04pm Tue 29 Apr 08

well even if they are and i know hindsight is a wonderful thing but these 2 have been in trouble before for attacking ppl and were always roaming the streets, so the remorseful parents already knew they were at risk of doing it again. So what was there answer? To allow them to be out in the early hours of the morning 2 miles from home ? It's disgraceful .

Chav Hunter, On A Street Near Bacup... says...
9:09pm Tue 29 Apr 08

With any luck,that grinning albino gorilla will find his jaw stretched to it's full extent in prison when 'Big Winston' the Lifer gets him as a cellmate and makes him play 'Mummies And Daddies'...Guess who 'Mummy' will be...?
''Hey,Joe,you got a REAL purdy mouth...''

local resident, shawforth says...
9:19pm Tue 29 Apr 08

And they above anybody ( coming from a family of travellers ) should live and let live anyone who is different , but sadly this was not the case. and Laina may be tryin to impress everyone by saying she's ashamed , but she knew they weren't in their beds at the proper bedtime that night so a bit late for regrets ain't it ?

kk, bacup says...
9:37pm Tue 29 Apr 08

they knew that thier sons were out late at night and that they had beaten people up before this happened with sophie,an incident that happened only months before involving those two left a boy in hospital after being beaten up by them,and that wasnt the first or last time it happened.the hulme boys mum knew what they were up to but chose to ignore it,so she should be ashamed of them and herself for not doing the job of being a decent parent

just me xx, Bacup says...
10:29pm Tue 29 Apr 08

kk wrote:
they knew that thier sons were out late at night and that they had beaten people up before this happened with sophie,an incident that happened only months before involving those two left a boy in hospital after being beaten up by them,and that wasnt the first or last time it happened.the hulme boys mum knew what they were up to but chose to ignore it,so she should be ashamed of them and herself for not doing the job of being a decent parent
I agree WELL SAID...It will all be an act with the parents,out of sight out of mind...

Shawforth resident, Shawforth says...
11:38am Wed 30 Apr 08

Any parent who supplies there children with drink and sits by watching them get drunk, allows them to roam the streets at all times, is not a fit parent. they can not go round saying "not my boys, they are good lads" anymore. They have just got some of what they deserve. hope fully they will get more inside!!!

anon, shawforth says...
7:48pm Wed 30 Apr 08

by the look of triumph of Joe Hulme's pic on here and from what has been said about the others' conduct in court ie.winking and grinning , then it seems that they feel they have celebrity status through all of this with no regard whatsover for the number of lives they have destroyed physically or emotionally.
They will expect to be released and will probably act like heroes , cos thats what they obviously think they are , no remorse at all.
They are SCUM through and through .
They should be locked away in a bare room with bread and water, no priveleges and NEVER released.

me123, everywhere says...
8:15pm Wed 30 Apr 08

he is laughing cos he got away with murder

Smith, What a TRAGEDY!!! says...
4:01pm Thu 1 May 08

Well, Well, Well, why does this not surprise me what has happened??? In the 90's I lived in Bacup and we were broken into and burgled, also someone had tried to set our house on fire. At that time 2 families who are related to each other,ran the estate of Bacup and every time I went to the police for help, they just said, can't do anything. Yet I was always threatened by these Families after I had been to the police. They painted the following on my window one night: CALLING 999 IS A WASTE OF TIME!!! The police were frightened of these Families! That is the only conclusion I can make for the police not helping us. So, it comes to NO surprise to me that this murder has happened, yes, I do blame the police partly for this, for things coming this far. Why?
Because if at the time when I lived there and the police would have done something, then things might have changed today. If the police would wanted to be aware of what was going on and not sent me home, then I daresare that things would have turned out different. It would have been important for the Families who threatend our families that they should have had somebody coming from the Social Services. But this way, the grandchildren don't grow up any different. I am glad I left Bacup because at the time I felt left alone by the police!!! Everybody who has lived in Bacup a long time knows what I am talking about.

concerned parent, bacup says...
7:10pm Thu 1 May 08

herbert had kicked at least 5 boys heads in last year previous to august, most were too scared to report it, the rest of the mottley crew had attacked a dozen or more people over the last year or so, again most were too scared to go to the police and why because those that did got attacked again or them and their families threatened. If the law was even remotely adequate in this country the savage scum would have been inside long before Sophie and Rob encountered them. At least the judge had the sense to see them for the dangerous scum that they are but too late for Sophie and Rob. Since august 17 bacup teenagers have been convicted for vicously beating others up, herberts cousins , a boy and a girl, included, unfortunately their sentences are pathetic. No wonder they laugh. And thats just the tip of the iceberg, theyre the ones who get reported or caught. Its time to start putting the first offenders down for a long long time or does there have to be a another tragedy before theres a decent sentence?

Very close friend of joe and danny hulme, whitworth says...
12:10pm Fri 2 May 08

i think that all the youths nowadays are all cocky . so just coz there is a picture of joe laughing you presume he is cocky ?? pffts. and he isnt laughing because he got away with MURDER yah ****, coz dont yah fink if he was a MURDERER e wud o got life just like RYAN n BRENDAN. you dont no joe and danny i have known them all my life and i no wot they did was wrong yeah. but dont call them murderers wen they dint get done for that they got done 4 GBH wid intent. so get yah facts right yeah.

local resident, shawforth says...
6:26pm Fri 2 May 08

Very close friend of joe and danny hulme wrote:
i think that all the youths nowadays are all cocky . so just coz there is a picture of joe laughing you presume he is cocky ?? pffts. and he isnt laughing because he got away with MURDER yah ****, coz dont yah fink if he was a MURDERER e wud o got life just like RYAN n BRENDAN. you dont no joe and danny i have known them all my life and i no wot they did was wrong yeah. but dont call them murderers wen they dint get done for that they got done 4 GBH wid intent. so get yah facts right yeah.
yes, there is a lot of cockiness about from youths . However, to be laughing on his way into court just goes to show how ill mannered , inconsiderate and insensitive he is.It was NO laughing matter whatsoever. He should have been showing respect for Sophie and Robs' families not laughing .
As for whether he or the other 2 ( Danny & Daniel) took part in the attack on Sophie , we
will never really know. Perhaps there was not enough evidence on them , but even if they didn't , they still stood there and allowed it to happen . Also, if you have known them all their lives, you will also know that this was not their first attack . They have also been causing trouble around Shawforth for years . So don't try to defend them on here and if I were a "very close friend" of theirs, I would be choosing my friends more carefully in future.

very close friend of sophie and rob, bacup says...
6:43pm Fri 2 May 08

Very close friend of joe and danny hulme wrote:
i think that all the youths nowadays are all cocky . so just coz there is a picture of joe laughing you presume he is cocky ?? pffts. and he isnt laughing because he got away with MURDER yah ****, coz dont yah fink if he was a MURDERER e wud o got life just like RYAN n BRENDAN. you dont no joe and danny i have known them all my life and i no wot they did was wrong yeah. but dont call them murderers wen they dint get done for that they got done 4 GBH wid intent. so get yah facts right yeah.
GBH with intent, so thats ok is it? NOT!! Robs just a little less delicate than sophie was, thats the only difference. The injuries were similar.
Your friends are no different than ryan and brendan. They're all psychopathic scumbags with a history of violence who should be locked away for ever for the sake of the public. It wasnt a fight, let alone a fair fight, it was a cowardly senseless attack using kicks, instead of bullets or knife wounds, as ammunition. You should choose your friends more carefully, thinking its ok to be violent soon leads to violents acts and you could soon end up where they are. Hope you see sense soon before you ruin your life too. By the way theres several mentions that one of the lads has hung himself.

anon, bacup says...
7:10pm Fri 2 May 08

very close friend of two thugs i wouldnt admit to that,or are you one of them that on past occasions beaten up other boys and if you try to say they didnt i can tell you that your lying,as i know that it has happened on two occasions.i dont know how any decent person can in any way defend any of those waste of spaces

anon, shawforth says...
7:20pm Fri 2 May 08

Very close friend of joe and danny hulme wrote:
i think that all the youths nowadays are all cocky . so just coz there is a picture of joe laughing you presume he is cocky ?? pffts. and he isnt laughing because he got away with MURDER yah ****, coz dont yah fink if he was a MURDERER e wud o got life just like RYAN n BRENDAN. you dont no joe and danny i have known them all my life and i no wot they did was wrong yeah. but dont call them murderers wen they dint get done for that they got done 4 GBH wid intent. so get yah facts right yeah.
NO ! It's not just cos there is a picture of Joe laughing that we PRESUME he is cocky . We KNOW he is cocky . We have had to put up with him and his brother around here for years , so we KNOW what we are talking about .
Anyway , what is so funny about walking into court where a murder trial is about to start ?
Only maybe the fact that like the earlier post says " he's laughing cos he got away with murder" , but if you are a close friend of theirs , then I doubt you will understand this as anyone who would choose them for friends would either have to be of the same mentality or too thick to know any different .
Go on , so tell us close friend , just what does he find so funny here ? Because no else is laughing .

SICK OF SCUM DEFENDERS, Bacup says...
8:54pm Fri 2 May 08

anon wrote:
Very close friend of joe and danny hulme wrote: i think that all the youths nowadays are all cocky . so just coz there is a picture of joe laughing you presume he is cocky ?? pffts. and he isnt laughing because he got away with MURDER yah ****, coz dont yah fink if he was a MURDERER e wud o got life just like RYAN n BRENDAN. you dont no joe and danny i have known them all my life and i no wot they did was wrong yeah. but dont call them murderers wen they dint get done for that they got done 4 GBH wid intent. so get yah facts right yeah.
NO ! It\'s not just cos there is a picture of Joe laughing that we PRESUME he is cocky . We KNOW he is cocky . We have had to put up with him and his brother around here for years , so we KNOW what we are talking about . Anyway , what is so funny about walking into court where a murder trial is about to start ? Only maybe the fact that like the earlier post says \" he\'s laughing cos he got away with murder\" , but if you are a close friend of theirs , then I doubt you will understand this as anyone who would choose them for friends would either have to be of the same mentality or too thick to know any different . Go on , so tell us close friend , just what does he find so funny here ? Because no else is laughing .
You need to sit down VERY CLOSE FRIEND OF JOE AND DANNY,and ask yourself this (if you have the mentality to understand this message.)If leaving a man with brain damage,and changing his life forever by killing sophie,and their families...Because the reality is,that is what they have done,is ok with you,then you are bigger SCUM than them.They are the dregs of society,as you are yourself for trying to defend them in anyway.Why not defend rob and sophies mum???These are the people whos lives this has destroyed.They were all to blame,only they got away with murder..GBH with intent// should have been MURDER...They left two innocent people to die,ran away bragging about what they had done,washed themselves off in the car wash.Not one of them stopped the violence,and lets not forget,,Rob has brain damage,almost died himself,and now lives in fear.You lowlife scum,should stop coming on this thread with your defence for this SCUM,get it through your head,this was one of the most brutal attacks seen by the police,and you should hang your head in shame,but,people like you SCUM do not have the gumption to understand..show some respect.

see all, rossendale says...
12:13am Wed 7 May 08

all members of the gang of thugs who attacked sophie and rob that night whether they took part in this evil deed or not should have been charged with ACCESARY TO MURDER. Whatever happened to this charge? has the law been changed or am i missing somthing?

Joe and Danny's COUSIN, says...
6:35pm Fri 9 May 08

Just like Joe and Danny's "very close friend" it annoys me when people think all of today's youth are the same, this isn't true. For example, it sickens me to think that I'm such a close relative of these complete and utter idiots. I'm nothing like them and I don't even want to be named as part of their family any more. They should have been sentenced to longer for being so disrespectful of other people. That should be a crime in itself.

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The sickening sight of Joseph Hulme, who admitted GBH on Sophie's boyfriend Robert Maltby, laughing on his way into court for an earlier hearing  Danny Hulme Daniel Mallett

The sickening sight of Joseph Hulme, who admitted GBH on Sophie's boyfriend Robert Maltby, laughing on his way into court for an earlier hearing

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