Rossendale man jailed for growing £16k drugs farm

First published in Stacksteads by , Court reporter

A PLASTERER who had a £16,000 cannabis factory at his home, has been locked up for 14 months.

Burnley Crown Court heard how self-employed Marc Thripp, 26, was growing 39 plants in two silver foil lined tents in an upstairs bedroom.

The plants had a lighting, ventilation and irrigation system and could potentially have produced 1.6 kilos of cannabis.

Thripp, a committee member at his local workingmen’s club, admitted producing cannabis, between December 2010 and February last year.

The hearing was told the defendant, of Olive Street, Stacksteads, had owned up on the basis he was a heavy cannabis user, smoked it daily, would have sold some of the drugs to family and friends to cover costs and would have taken some of the cannabis himself.

Silvia Dacre, prosecuting, said police who raided the defendant’s home, asked him if there was anything there that shouldn’t be and he told them about the factory.

They estimated a yield of 40 grams per plant and that the harvest could potentially have been worth up to £16,000 on the streets.

Thripp, who had no similar previous convictions, now faces a proceeds of crime hearing.

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Neil Fryman, for Thripp, said he knew he could be facing a custodial term of some length.

He had not grown cannabis before, had pleaded guilty and there were very positive aspects to his character.

He said: “He has had the fright of his life with these proceedings.”

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5:57pm Fri 13 Jan 12

midas says...

My maths might be well out but (I'm old school!) 1.6kg is 56oz. £16,000 divided by 56 = £286 per ounce. Can anyone confirm that the "street" price of cannabis is any where near £286/oz(or £35 an eigth!).
.
There seems to be a lot of "potential" ianvolved in the sentencing as well! Perhaps the mitigation should have been - "well your Honour, its the first time hes tried to grow his own. There are 39 plants but only 20 will reach maturity, of those 20, 10 are male and will not flower and out of the other 10, hes not given them enough food/light so the yield will be an ounce each, its got a low THC and a street value of £50/oz but he smokes a couple of oz a week and wouldn't have any to sell etc etc"
.
regardless i will however feel much safer walking around Rossendale knowing that this villan is off the streets!
My maths might be well out but (I'm old school!) 1.6kg is 56oz. £16,000 divided by 56 = £286 per ounce. Can anyone confirm that the "street" price of cannabis is any where near £286/oz(or £35 an eigth!). . There seems to be a lot of "potential" ianvolved in the sentencing as well! Perhaps the mitigation should have been - "well your Honour, its the first time hes tried to grow his own. There are 39 plants but only 20 will reach maturity, of those 20, 10 are male and will not flower and out of the other 10, hes not given them enough food/light so the yield will be an ounce each, its got a low THC and a street value of £50/oz but he smokes a couple of oz a week and wouldn't have any to sell etc etc" . regardless i will however feel much safer walking around Rossendale knowing that this villan is off the streets! midas
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6:22pm Fri 13 Jan 12

HelmshoreBoy says...

Seems like he had a bit of a problem with his over use or dependability!
Seems like he had a bit of a problem with his over use or dependability! HelmshoreBoy
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6:55pm Fri 13 Jan 12

Jack Stanley Evans says...

This seems a brutal sentence for an entirely victimless crime.

Why on earth are we wasting so much public money on this?
This seems a brutal sentence for an entirely victimless crime. Why on earth are we wasting so much public money on this? Jack Stanley Evans
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7:25pm Fri 13 Jan 12

bonobo says...

"a committee member at his local WMC " where alcohol is sold .I wonder how many times the police/NHS have had to deal with the problems caused by the legal drug at this club ?.This persecution has to stop your D.MARCH
"a committee member at his local WMC " where alcohol is sold .I wonder how many times the police/NHS have had to deal with the problems caused by the legal drug at this club ?.This persecution has to stop your D.MARCH bonobo
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7:36pm Fri 13 Jan 12

mpierce says...

How about instead of wasting millions of pounds of taxpayer money cracking down on these victimless "crimes," the police and justice system actually earns it's keep by preventing absurd miscarriages of justice like this: http://www.dailymail
.co.uk/news/article-
2084370/Paedophile-O
NE-MILLION-sickening
-images-child-abuse-
spared-jail.html
How about instead of wasting millions of pounds of taxpayer money cracking down on these victimless "crimes," the police and justice system actually earns it's keep by preventing absurd miscarriages of justice like this: http://www.dailymail .co.uk/news/article- 2084370/Paedophile-O NE-MILLION-sickening -images-child-abuse- spared-jail.html mpierce
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7:40pm Fri 13 Jan 12

Cha'mone MF says...

bonobo wrote:
"a committee member at his local WMC " where alcohol is sold .I wonder how many times the police/NHS have had to deal with the problems caused by the legal drug at this club ?.This persecution has to stop your D.MARCH
Yes but alcohol is legal regardless of what you think and cannabis isn't.
[quote][p][bold]bonobo[/bold] wrote: "a committee member at his local WMC " where alcohol is sold .I wonder how many times the police/NHS have had to deal with the problems caused by the legal drug at this club ?.This persecution has to stop your D.MARCH[/p][/quote]Yes but alcohol is legal regardless of what you think and cannabis isn't. Cha'mone MF
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7:45pm Fri 13 Jan 12

this is absurd says...

i'm not prepared to pay for this, and as tax payers, we all are paying for, who does this law serve to protect by causing this man great harm?
i'm not prepared to pay for this, and as tax payers, we all are paying for, who does this law serve to protect by causing this man great harm? this is absurd
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7:47pm Fri 13 Jan 12

mpierce says...

Cha'mone MF wrote:
bonobo wrote:
"a committee member at his local WMC " where alcohol is sold .I wonder how many times the police/NHS have had to deal with the problems caused by the legal drug at this club ?.This persecution has to stop your D.MARCH
Yes but alcohol is legal regardless of what you think and cannabis isn't.
Yet while there has never been a recorded death anywhere in the world as a direct result of cannabis, people die every day from legal (and taxed, conveniently) alcohol.
[quote][p][bold]Cha'mone MF[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bonobo[/bold] wrote: "a committee member at his local WMC " where alcohol is sold .I wonder how many times the police/NHS have had to deal with the problems caused by the legal drug at this club ?.This persecution has to stop your D.MARCH[/p][/quote]Yes but alcohol is legal regardless of what you think and cannabis isn't.[/p][/quote]Yet while there has never been a recorded death anywhere in the world as a direct result of cannabis, people die every day from legal (and taxed, conveniently) alcohol. mpierce
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7:49pm Fri 13 Jan 12

bonobo says...

@ cha mone MF ..that perfectly true but the question is why is this the situation ?
@ cha mone MF ..that perfectly true but the question is why is this the situation ? bonobo
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7:49pm Fri 13 Jan 12

bonobo says...

@ cha mone MF ..that perfectly true but the question is why is this the situation ?
@ cha mone MF ..that perfectly true but the question is why is this the situation ? bonobo
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7:53pm Fri 13 Jan 12

Pawel_Si says...

When this lunacy of law will end ? This poor guy didn't commit any crime. How come growing some plants can be a crime and how come company like GW Pharmaceuticals can grow tonnes of cannabis and sell it in the UK with permission of the Home Office ? This is so wrong... When that waste of taxpayers money will end ? This guy didn't hurt anyone...
When this lunacy of law will end ? This poor guy didn't commit any crime. How come growing some plants can be a crime and how come company like GW Pharmaceuticals can grow tonnes of cannabis and sell it in the UK with permission of the Home Office ? This is so wrong... When that waste of taxpayers money will end ? This guy didn't hurt anyone... Pawel_Si
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7:54pm Fri 13 Jan 12

Jack Stanley Evans says...

Cha'mone MF wrote:
bonobo wrote:
"a committee member at his local WMC " where alcohol is sold .I wonder how many times the police/NHS have had to deal with the problems caused by the legal drug at this club ?.This persecution has to stop your D.MARCH
Yes but alcohol is legal regardless of what you think and cannabis isn't.
Yes but surely that's wrong?

It's a rather stupid law which I have never understood. Most people I know have smoked cannabis at some time in their life and some still do.

When a law is bad it should be changed.
[quote][p][bold]Cha'mone MF[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bonobo[/bold] wrote: "a committee member at his local WMC " where alcohol is sold .I wonder how many times the police/NHS have had to deal with the problems caused by the legal drug at this club ?.This persecution has to stop your D.MARCH[/p][/quote]Yes but alcohol is legal regardless of what you think and cannabis isn't.[/p][/quote]Yes but surely that's wrong? It's a rather stupid law which I have never understood. Most people I know have smoked cannabis at some time in their life and some still do. When a law is bad it should be changed. Jack Stanley Evans
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8:30pm Fri 13 Jan 12

D Bell says...

midas wrote:
My maths might be well out but (I'm old school!) 1.6kg is 56oz. £16,000 divided by 56 = £286 per ounce. Can anyone confirm that the "street" price of cannabis is any where near £286/oz(or £35 an eigth!).
.
There seems to be a lot of "potential" ianvolved in the sentencing as well! Perhaps the mitigation should have been - "well your Honour, its the first time hes tried to grow his own. There are 39 plants but only 20 will reach maturity, of those 20, 10 are male and will not flower and out of the other 10, hes not given them enough food/light so the yield will be an ounce each, its got a low THC and a street value of £50/oz but he smokes a couple of oz a week and wouldn't have any to sell etc etc"
.
regardless i will however feel much safer walking around Rossendale knowing that this villan is off the streets!
MIDAS,

The police use £10 a gram as the street price when they value cannabis

Also, the Court of Appeal issued sentencing guidelines in the Auton ruling which is what this sentence is based on
[quote][p][bold]midas[/bold] wrote: My maths might be well out but (I'm old school!) 1.6kg is 56oz. £16,000 divided by 56 = £286 per ounce. Can anyone confirm that the "street" price of cannabis is any where near £286/oz(or £35 an eigth!). . There seems to be a lot of "potential" ianvolved in the sentencing as well! Perhaps the mitigation should have been - "well your Honour, its the first time hes tried to grow his own. There are 39 plants but only 20 will reach maturity, of those 20, 10 are male and will not flower and out of the other 10, hes not given them enough food/light so the yield will be an ounce each, its got a low THC and a street value of £50/oz but he smokes a couple of oz a week and wouldn't have any to sell etc etc" . regardless i will however feel much safer walking around Rossendale knowing that this villan is off the streets![/p][/quote]MIDAS, The police use £10 a gram as the street price when they value cannabis Also, the Court of Appeal issued sentencing guidelines in the Auton ruling which is what this sentence is based on D Bell
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8:43pm Fri 13 Jan 12

Jack Stanley Evans says...

What's the Auton ruling?
What's the Auton ruling? Jack Stanley Evans
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8:46pm Fri 13 Jan 12

Keep Darwen Green says...

Police certainly are coming down harder on crimes nowadays. What with this and riding bikes on the pavements the jails will be fit for busting soon. Better let some more peado's and murderers out to make way for more farmers and cylists from the next dawn raids, the dirty beasts.
Police certainly are coming down harder on crimes nowadays. What with this and riding bikes on the pavements the jails will be fit for busting soon. Better let some more peado's and murderers out to make way for more farmers and cylists from the next dawn raids, the dirty beasts. Keep Darwen Green
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8:54pm Fri 13 Jan 12

1LoveUnity says...

midas wrote:
My maths might be well out but (I'm old school!) 1.6kg is 56oz. £16,000 divided by 56 = £286 per ounce. Can anyone confirm that the "street" price of cannabis is any where near £286/oz(or £35 an eigth!).
.
There seems to be a lot of "potential" ianvolved in the sentencing as well! Perhaps the mitigation should have been - "well your Honour, its the first time hes tried to grow his own. There are 39 plants but only 20 will reach maturity, of those 20, 10 are male and will not flower and out of the other 10, hes not given them enough food/light so the yield will be an ounce each, its got a low THC and a street value of £50/oz but he smokes a couple of oz a week and wouldn't have any to sell etc etc"
.
regardless i will however feel much safer walking around Rossendale knowing that this villan is off the streets!
You're quite right Midas It's quite likely he wasn't going to sell any at all. So often these huge "values" are quoted by the police but when it comes down to it those values have no real meaning at all. My mum has a couple of bottles of wine in the cupboard, she could sell them for a huge sum in the Arab Emirates, but does that really mean they have this great "value" no of course not she is just going to drink them- and not all at once LOL.
[quote][p][bold]midas[/bold] wrote: My maths might be well out but (I'm old school!) 1.6kg is 56oz. £16,000 divided by 56 = £286 per ounce. Can anyone confirm that the "street" price of cannabis is any where near £286/oz(or £35 an eigth!). . There seems to be a lot of "potential" ianvolved in the sentencing as well! Perhaps the mitigation should have been - "well your Honour, its the first time hes tried to grow his own. There are 39 plants but only 20 will reach maturity, of those 20, 10 are male and will not flower and out of the other 10, hes not given them enough food/light so the yield will be an ounce each, its got a low THC and a street value of £50/oz but he smokes a couple of oz a week and wouldn't have any to sell etc etc" . regardless i will however feel much safer walking around Rossendale knowing that this villan is off the streets![/p][/quote]You're quite right Midas It's quite likely he wasn't going to sell any at all. So often these huge "values" are quoted by the police but when it comes down to it those values have no real meaning at all. My mum has a couple of bottles of wine in the cupboard, she could sell them for a huge sum in the Arab Emirates, but does that really mean they have this great "value" no of course not she is just going to drink them- and not all at once LOL. 1LoveUnity
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8:59pm Fri 13 Jan 12

1LoveUnity says...

D Bell wrote:
midas wrote:
My maths might be well out but (I'm old school!) 1.6kg is 56oz. £16,000 divided by 56 = £286 per ounce. Can anyone confirm that the "street" price of cannabis is any where near £286/oz(or £35 an eigth!).
.
There seems to be a lot of "potential" ianvolved in the sentencing as well! Perhaps the mitigation should have been - "well your Honour, its the first time hes tried to grow his own. There are 39 plants but only 20 will reach maturity, of those 20, 10 are male and will not flower and out of the other 10, hes not given them enough food/light so the yield will be an ounce each, its got a low THC and a street value of £50/oz but he smokes a couple of oz a week and wouldn't have any to sell etc etc"
.
regardless i will however feel much safer walking around Rossendale knowing that this villan is off the streets!
MIDAS,

The police use £10 a gram as the street price when they value cannabis

Also, the Court of Appeal issued sentencing guidelines in the Auton ruling which is what this sentence is based on
Are they taking the Autons to court now? I thought The Doctor got rid of them once and for all in "Terror Of The Autons"
[quote][p][bold]D Bell[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]midas[/bold] wrote: My maths might be well out but (I'm old school!) 1.6kg is 56oz. £16,000 divided by 56 = £286 per ounce. Can anyone confirm that the "street" price of cannabis is any where near £286/oz(or £35 an eigth!). . There seems to be a lot of "potential" ianvolved in the sentencing as well! Perhaps the mitigation should have been - "well your Honour, its the first time hes tried to grow his own. There are 39 plants but only 20 will reach maturity, of those 20, 10 are male and will not flower and out of the other 10, hes not given them enough food/light so the yield will be an ounce each, its got a low THC and a street value of £50/oz but he smokes a couple of oz a week and wouldn't have any to sell etc etc" . regardless i will however feel much safer walking around Rossendale knowing that this villan is off the streets![/p][/quote]MIDAS, The police use £10 a gram as the street price when they value cannabis Also, the Court of Appeal issued sentencing guidelines in the Auton ruling which is what this sentence is based on[/p][/quote]Are they taking the Autons to court now? I thought The Doctor got rid of them once and for all in "Terror Of The Autons" 1LoveUnity
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9:03pm Fri 13 Jan 12

Jack Stanley Evans says...

I guess D Bell must be an expert or a lawyer or something.

I understand the LibDems are now in favour of legalising cannabis. It's bound to happen soon.
I guess D Bell must be an expert or a lawyer or something. I understand the LibDems are now in favour of legalising cannabis. It's bound to happen soon. Jack Stanley Evans
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9:13pm Fri 13 Jan 12

1LoveUnity says...

D Bell wrote:
midas wrote:
My maths might be well out but (I'm old school!) 1.6kg is 56oz. £16,000 divided by 56 = £286 per ounce. Can anyone confirm that the "street" price of cannabis is any where near £286/oz(or £35 an eigth!).
.
There seems to be a lot of "potential" ianvolved in the sentencing as well! Perhaps the mitigation should have been - "well your Honour, its the first time hes tried to grow his own. There are 39 plants but only 20 will reach maturity, of those 20, 10 are male and will not flower and out of the other 10, hes not given them enough food/light so the yield will be an ounce each, its got a low THC and a street value of £50/oz but he smokes a couple of oz a week and wouldn't have any to sell etc etc"
.
regardless i will however feel much safer walking around Rossendale knowing that this villan is off the streets!
MIDAS,

The police use £10 a gram as the street price when they value cannabis

Also, the Court of Appeal issued sentencing guidelines in the Auton ruling which is what this sentence is based on
Jack, as I see it the dominoes of prohibition around the world are now toppling and pretty soon we migh be left behind, so the Lib Dems have got the right idea I think, I am sure they don't want us in the U.K. to be left trailing behind the rest of the world like some sort of poor relation that everyone laughs at.
[quote][p][bold]D Bell[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]midas[/bold] wrote: My maths might be well out but (I'm old school!) 1.6kg is 56oz. £16,000 divided by 56 = £286 per ounce. Can anyone confirm that the "street" price of cannabis is any where near £286/oz(or £35 an eigth!). . There seems to be a lot of "potential" ianvolved in the sentencing as well! Perhaps the mitigation should have been - "well your Honour, its the first time hes tried to grow his own. There are 39 plants but only 20 will reach maturity, of those 20, 10 are male and will not flower and out of the other 10, hes not given them enough food/light so the yield will be an ounce each, its got a low THC and a street value of £50/oz but he smokes a couple of oz a week and wouldn't have any to sell etc etc" . regardless i will however feel much safer walking around Rossendale knowing that this villan is off the streets![/p][/quote]MIDAS, The police use £10 a gram as the street price when they value cannabis Also, the Court of Appeal issued sentencing guidelines in the Auton ruling which is what this sentence is based on[/p][/quote]Jack, as I see it the dominoes of prohibition around the world are now toppling and pretty soon we migh be left behind, so the Lib Dems have got the right idea I think, I am sure they don't want us in the U.K. to be left trailing behind the rest of the world like some sort of poor relation that everyone laughs at. 1LoveUnity
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9:14pm Fri 13 Jan 12

D Bell says...

Here is the Auton ruling,

http://www.keithbore
r.co.uk/news/view-ar
ticle/court-of-appea
l-ruling--indoor-can
nabis-cultivation
Here is the Auton ruling, http://www.keithbore r.co.uk/news/view-ar ticle/court-of-appea l-ruling--indoor-can nabis-cultivation D Bell
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9:14pm Fri 13 Jan 12

D Bell says...

Here is the Auton ruling,

http://www.keithbore
r.co.uk/news/view-ar
ticle/court-of-appea
l-ruling--indoor-can
nabis-cultivation
Here is the Auton ruling, http://www.keithbore r.co.uk/news/view-ar ticle/court-of-appea l-ruling--indoor-can nabis-cultivation D Bell
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9:16pm Fri 13 Jan 12

1LoveUnity says...

Cha'mone MF wrote:
bonobo wrote:
"a committee member at his local WMC " where alcohol is sold .I wonder how many times the police/NHS have had to deal with the problems caused by the legal drug at this club ?.This persecution has to stop your D.MARCH
Yes but alcohol is legal regardless of what you think and cannabis isn't.
Cannabis is perfectly legal, it is just possessing, supplying or growing it that is illegal, and not for much longer.
[quote][p][bold]Cha'mone MF[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bonobo[/bold] wrote: "a committee member at his local WMC " where alcohol is sold .I wonder how many times the police/NHS have had to deal with the problems caused by the legal drug at this club ?.This persecution has to stop your D.MARCH[/p][/quote]Yes but alcohol is legal regardless of what you think and cannabis isn't.[/p][/quote]Cannabis is perfectly legal, it is just possessing, supplying or growing it that is illegal, and not for much longer. 1LoveUnity
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9:16pm Fri 13 Jan 12

1LoveUnity says...

D Bell wrote:
Here is the Auton ruling,

http://www.keithbore

r.co.uk/news/view-ar

ticle/court-of-appea

l-ruling--indoor-can

nabis-cultivation
Yes, but what's that got to do with Jon Pertwee?
[quote][p][bold]D Bell[/bold] wrote: Here is the Auton ruling, http://www.keithbore r.co.uk/news/view-ar ticle/court-of-appea l-ruling--indoor-can nabis-cultivation[/p][/quote]Yes, but what's that got to do with Jon Pertwee? 1LoveUnity
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9:20pm Fri 13 Jan 12

D Bell says...

The link doesn't seem to be working but this gives the basics:

A recent ruling from the Court of Appeal has put new light on indoor cannabis cultivation - how will this affect your case?

In previous cases, much of our work addressed what was considered over-estimation (by the prosecution) of potential yields from cannabis crops to give the impression that cultivation may be for supply rather than personal use. One Prosecution laboratory had been using an estimate of 57g per plant, whereas another was using 40g per plant. We have been successful in a number of cases in addressing the balance of this to look at what may or may not be realistically achievable. Immature or poorly cultivated plants, for instance, would not be expected to yield as much of the active drug as fully grown plants.

The recent case of R –v- Auton made some significant recommendations, including:
•the need for a custodial sentence even if cultivation is for personal use

•yield estimates should be in the range of 28g to 40g

•elements of the case such as scale, investment in equipment or whether or not the cultivation is commercial should be assessed as guidance for sentencing.

Issues such as whether the plants are seed grown or cutting grown (which dramatically affects yield), the health of the plants and whether leaves are being kept or discarded still need to be considered. Furthermore, outdoor cultivation arguably falls outside the scope of the ruling.
The link doesn't seem to be working but this gives the basics: A recent ruling from the Court of Appeal has put new light on indoor cannabis cultivation - how will this affect your case? In previous cases, much of our work addressed what was considered over-estimation (by the prosecution) of potential yields from cannabis crops to give the impression that cultivation may be for supply rather than personal use. One Prosecution laboratory had been using an estimate of 57g per plant, whereas another was using 40g per plant. We have been successful in a number of cases in addressing the balance of this to look at what may or may not be realistically achievable. Immature or poorly cultivated plants, for instance, would not be expected to yield as much of the active drug as fully grown plants. The recent case of R –v- Auton made some significant recommendations, including: •the need for a custodial sentence even if cultivation is for personal use •yield estimates should be in the range of 28g to 40g •elements of the case such as scale, investment in equipment or whether or not the cultivation is commercial should be assessed as guidance for sentencing. Issues such as whether the plants are seed grown or cutting grown (which dramatically affects yield), the health of the plants and whether leaves are being kept or discarded still need to be considered. Furthermore, outdoor cultivation arguably falls outside the scope of the ruling. D Bell
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9:22pm Fri 13 Jan 12

1LoveUnity says...

D Bell wrote:
The link doesn't seem to be working but this gives the basics:

A recent ruling from the Court of Appeal has put new light on indoor cannabis cultivation - how will this affect your case?

In previous cases, much of our work addressed what was considered over-estimation (by the prosecution) of potential yields from cannabis crops to give the impression that cultivation may be for supply rather than personal use. One Prosecution laboratory had been using an estimate of 57g per plant, whereas another was using 40g per plant. We have been successful in a number of cases in addressing the balance of this to look at what may or may not be realistically achievable. Immature or poorly cultivated plants, for instance, would not be expected to yield as much of the active drug as fully grown plants.

The recent case of R –v- Auton made some significant recommendations, including:
•the need for a custodial sentence even if cultivation is for personal use

•yield estimates should be in the range of 28g to 40g

•elements of the case such as scale, investment in equipment or whether or not the cultivation is commercial should be assessed as guidance for sentencing.

Issues such as whether the plants are seed grown or cutting grown (which dramatically affects yield), the health of the plants and whether leaves are being kept or discarded still need to be considered. Furthermore, outdoor cultivation arguably falls outside the scope of the ruling.
But that still doesn't answer weather The Master got away at the end or was it the man wearing the mask who was sho by Sgnt Benton?
[quote][p][bold]D Bell[/bold] wrote: The link doesn't seem to be working but this gives the basics: A recent ruling from the Court of Appeal has put new light on indoor cannabis cultivation - how will this affect your case? In previous cases, much of our work addressed what was considered over-estimation (by the prosecution) of potential yields from cannabis crops to give the impression that cultivation may be for supply rather than personal use. One Prosecution laboratory had been using an estimate of 57g per plant, whereas another was using 40g per plant. We have been successful in a number of cases in addressing the balance of this to look at what may or may not be realistically achievable. Immature or poorly cultivated plants, for instance, would not be expected to yield as much of the active drug as fully grown plants. The recent case of R –v- Auton made some significant recommendations, including: •the need for a custodial sentence even if cultivation is for personal use •yield estimates should be in the range of 28g to 40g •elements of the case such as scale, investment in equipment or whether or not the cultivation is commercial should be assessed as guidance for sentencing. Issues such as whether the plants are seed grown or cutting grown (which dramatically affects yield), the health of the plants and whether leaves are being kept or discarded still need to be considered. Furthermore, outdoor cultivation arguably falls outside the scope of the ruling.[/p][/quote]But that still doesn't answer weather The Master got away at the end or was it the man wearing the mask who was sho by Sgnt Benton? 1LoveUnity
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9:23pm Fri 13 Jan 12

D Bell says...

See how we can all play nicely when nobody uses the C word or mentions PR
See how we can all play nicely when nobody uses the C word or mentions PR D Bell
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9:24pm Fri 13 Jan 12

Jack Stanley Evans says...

Well a lawyer or a cannabis nerd/geek, that's for sure!

Isn't there a more straightforward approach?

Isn't there a more consumer focused, less nerdy approach to changing this stupid law?
Well a lawyer or a cannabis nerd/geek, that's for sure! Isn't there a more straightforward approach? Isn't there a more consumer focused, less nerdy approach to changing this stupid law? Jack Stanley Evans
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9:27pm Fri 13 Jan 12

1LoveUnity says...

Jack Stanley Evans wrote:
Well a lawyer or a cannabis nerd/geek, that's for sure!

Isn't there a more straightforward approach?

Isn't there a more consumer focused, less nerdy approach to changing this stupid law?
Sure there is, the regular laws of supply & demand work just as well for Cannabis as any other consumer commodity.
[quote][p][bold]Jack Stanley Evans[/bold] wrote: Well a lawyer or a cannabis nerd/geek, that's for sure! Isn't there a more straightforward approach? Isn't there a more consumer focused, less nerdy approach to changing this stupid law?[/p][/quote]Sure there is, the regular laws of supply & demand work just as well for Cannabis as any other consumer commodity. 1LoveUnity
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9:34pm Fri 13 Jan 12

1LoveUnity says...

I think it would be good if we could treat Cannabis pretty much the same as alcohol with age restrictions etc, but don't put it on supermarket shelves, kids might shoplift it from there. They should not have booze on supermarket shelves either, for the same reason.
I think it would be good if we could treat Cannabis pretty much the same as alcohol with age restrictions etc, but don't put it on supermarket shelves, kids might shoplift it from there. They should not have booze on supermarket shelves either, for the same reason. 1LoveUnity
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9:41pm Fri 13 Jan 12

B Girffin says...

Don't speak too soon D Bell, I heard if you say his name 3 times in front of a mirror....all manner of nasty events could happen, the thread could disappear for one,much like pages and groups that had been set up to oppose his views, Let us hope those days are over as I had a phone call off "obscurity" earlier, he said he is all well and ready to receive Peter Reynolds
Don't speak too soon D Bell, I heard if you say his name 3 times in front of a mirror....all manner of nasty events could happen, the thread could disappear for one,much like pages and groups that had been set up to oppose his views, Let us hope those days are over as I had a phone call off "obscurity" earlier, he said he is all well and ready to receive Peter Reynolds B Girffin
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10:01pm Fri 13 Jan 12

1LoveUnity says...

mpierce wrote:
How about instead of wasting millions of pounds of taxpayer money cracking down on these victimless "crimes," the police and justice system actually earns it's keep by preventing absurd miscarriages of justice like this: http://www.dailymail

.co.uk/news/article-

2084370/Paedophile-O

NE-MILLION-sickening

-images-child-abuse-

spared-jail.html
I wonder how many of that sicko's victims now use Cannabis to help ease the nightmares? To think that he is spared jail and that many of his victims will be cruelly punished simply for seeking a little peace of mind. What a wicked and corrupt legal code we have at the moment. Let's make Britain a fairer place and legalise Cannabis.
[quote][p][bold]mpierce[/bold] wrote: How about instead of wasting millions of pounds of taxpayer money cracking down on these victimless "crimes," the police and justice system actually earns it's keep by preventing absurd miscarriages of justice like this: http://www.dailymail .co.uk/news/article- 2084370/Paedophile-O NE-MILLION-sickening -images-child-abuse- spared-jail.html[/p][/quote]I wonder how many of that sicko's victims now use Cannabis to help ease the nightmares? To think that he is spared jail and that many of his victims will be cruelly punished simply for seeking a little peace of mind. What a wicked and corrupt legal code we have at the moment. Let's make Britain a fairer place and legalise Cannabis. 1LoveUnity
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10:10pm Fri 13 Jan 12

Jack Stanley Evans says...

It does seem absolutely crazy that paedophiles escape jail while people growing a few plants get a year or more. What is going on? When are people in Lancashire and elsewhere going to wake up to this?
It does seem absolutely crazy that paedophiles escape jail while people growing a few plants get a year or more. What is going on? When are people in Lancashire and elsewhere going to wake up to this? Jack Stanley Evans
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10:17pm Fri 13 Jan 12

D Bell says...

And it costs us as taxpayers £40,000 a year to keep a cannabis grower in prison

We should demand tax rebates!
And it costs us as taxpayers £40,000 a year to keep a cannabis grower in prison We should demand tax rebates! D Bell
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10:19pm Fri 13 Jan 12

1LoveUnity says...

D Bell wrote:
And it costs us as taxpayers £40,000 a year to keep a cannabis grower in prison

We should demand tax rebates!
I agree.
[quote][p][bold]D Bell[/bold] wrote: And it costs us as taxpayers £40,000 a year to keep a cannabis grower in prison We should demand tax rebates![/p][/quote]I agree. 1LoveUnity
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11:04pm Fri 13 Jan 12

AB3 says...

1LoveUnity wrote:
I think it would be good if we could treat Cannabis pretty much the same as alcohol with age restrictions etc, but don't put it on supermarket shelves, kids might shoplift it from there. They should not have booze on supermarket shelves either, for the same reason.
Yes but cannabis is nothing like alcohol: cannabis is a plant, alcohol is manufactured from plants; it is impossible to die from over-consumption of cannabis, from alcohol tens of thousands in the UK day every year, countless accidents, violence, abusiveness, ill-health, absenteeism and premature death from alcohol.

Cannabis itself has powerful medicinal uses - as well as social, religious and industrial.

People are allowed to brew their own beer, make their own wine, and consume it at home - same should be allowed for growing and possessing own cannabis.

Adults should be allowed to buy from licensed outlets where advice and quality control (consumer protection) would be available and profits taxed.

Commercial growers should be licensed.

It is unjust to punish cannabis users because of their choice whilst those that choose alcohol get the protection of the law and police stay away until somebody is at risk or harmed.

With cannabis they barge in to people's homes and arrest them for doing no harm at all.
[quote][p][bold]1LoveUnity[/bold] wrote: I think it would be good if we could treat Cannabis pretty much the same as alcohol with age restrictions etc, but don't put it on supermarket shelves, kids might shoplift it from there. They should not have booze on supermarket shelves either, for the same reason.[/p][/quote]Yes but cannabis is nothing like alcohol: cannabis is a plant, alcohol is manufactured from plants; it is impossible to die from over-consumption of cannabis, from alcohol tens of thousands in the UK day every year, countless accidents, violence, abusiveness, ill-health, absenteeism and premature death from alcohol. Cannabis itself has powerful medicinal uses - as well as social, religious and industrial. People are allowed to brew their own beer, make their own wine, and consume it at home - same should be allowed for growing and possessing own cannabis. Adults should be allowed to buy from licensed outlets where advice and quality control (consumer protection) would be available and profits taxed. Commercial growers should be licensed. It is unjust to punish cannabis users because of their choice whilst those that choose alcohol get the protection of the law and police stay away until somebody is at risk or harmed. With cannabis they barge in to people's homes and arrest them for doing no harm at all. AB3
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12:13am Sat 14 Jan 12

1LoveUnity says...

AB3 wrote:
1LoveUnity wrote:
I think it would be good if we could treat Cannabis pretty much the same as alcohol with age restrictions etc, but don't put it on supermarket shelves, kids might shoplift it from there. They should not have booze on supermarket shelves either, for the same reason.
Yes but cannabis is nothing like alcohol: cannabis is a plant, alcohol is manufactured from plants; it is impossible to die from over-consumption of cannabis, from alcohol tens of thousands in the UK day every year, countless accidents, violence, abusiveness, ill-health, absenteeism and premature death from alcohol.

Cannabis itself has powerful medicinal uses - as well as social, religious and industrial.

People are allowed to brew their own beer, make their own wine, and consume it at home - same should be allowed for growing and possessing own cannabis.

Adults should be allowed to buy from licensed outlets where advice and quality control (consumer protection) would be available and profits taxed.

Commercial growers should be licensed.

It is unjust to punish cannabis users because of their choice whilst those that choose alcohol get the protection of the law and police stay away until somebody is at risk or harmed.

With cannabis they barge in to people's homes and arrest them for doing no harm at all.
Oh yes AB3 thank you for pointing out the great benefits of the Cannabis plant. I have seen friends die from alcohol, but have never seen anyone even a bit ill from Cannabis. I don't think I really made my point properly, I think that Cannabis should be made as freely available as Alcohol, I am sure most people would love to buy their Cannabis from a proper licensed seller who has a good knowledge and a safe clean product. Or even grow your own lovely Organic and Bio Dynamic Cannabis. I would love the Cannabis trade to come under the wing of the trading standards inspectors. The bit about the supermarket shelves I would like to elaborate on, I have always thought it was wrong to have bottles of booze on supermarket shelves where sticky fingered youngsters can get hold of it, Alcohol should be behind a counter and so should Cannabis for the simple reason that youngsters getting hold of either could be sidetracked from doing their homework and learning process. Time enough to find out about adult pleasures when entering adulthood.
[quote][p][bold]AB3[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]1LoveUnity[/bold] wrote: I think it would be good if we could treat Cannabis pretty much the same as alcohol with age restrictions etc, but don't put it on supermarket shelves, kids might shoplift it from there. They should not have booze on supermarket shelves either, for the same reason.[/p][/quote]Yes but cannabis is nothing like alcohol: cannabis is a plant, alcohol is manufactured from plants; it is impossible to die from over-consumption of cannabis, from alcohol tens of thousands in the UK day every year, countless accidents, violence, abusiveness, ill-health, absenteeism and premature death from alcohol. Cannabis itself has powerful medicinal uses - as well as social, religious and industrial. People are allowed to brew their own beer, make their own wine, and consume it at home - same should be allowed for growing and possessing own cannabis. Adults should be allowed to buy from licensed outlets where advice and quality control (consumer protection) would be available and profits taxed. Commercial growers should be licensed. It is unjust to punish cannabis users because of their choice whilst those that choose alcohol get the protection of the law and police stay away until somebody is at risk or harmed. With cannabis they barge in to people's homes and arrest them for doing no harm at all.[/p][/quote]Oh yes AB3 thank you for pointing out the great benefits of the Cannabis plant. I have seen friends die from alcohol, but have never seen anyone even a bit ill from Cannabis. I don't think I really made my point properly, I think that Cannabis should be made as freely available as Alcohol, I am sure most people would love to buy their Cannabis from a proper licensed seller who has a good knowledge and a safe clean product. Or even grow your own lovely Organic and Bio Dynamic Cannabis. I would love the Cannabis trade to come under the wing of the trading standards inspectors. The bit about the supermarket shelves I would like to elaborate on, I have always thought it was wrong to have bottles of booze on supermarket shelves where sticky fingered youngsters can get hold of it, Alcohol should be behind a counter and so should Cannabis for the simple reason that youngsters getting hold of either could be sidetracked from doing their homework and learning process. Time enough to find out about adult pleasures when entering adulthood. 1LoveUnity
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12:19am Sat 14 Jan 12

Jack Stanley Evans says...

So what can be done to make this happen? It is important that people know about this.

Who is doing anything about this? Is it just the LibDems?

I must say 1Love, I am impressed with your ideas.
So what can be done to make this happen? It is important that people know about this. Who is doing anything about this? Is it just the LibDems? I must say 1Love, I am impressed with your ideas. Jack Stanley Evans
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1:31am Sat 14 Jan 12

Lifeinthemix says...

all this money wasted locking them up could be used to buy blackburn a footballer with fries...
all this money wasted locking them up could be used to buy blackburn a footballer with fries... Lifeinthemix
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10:03am Sat 14 Jan 12

Burnleyboy38 says...

believe it or not BUT cannabis DOES grow outside HERE EVEN IN BURNLEY,,,,,,,,,,,,,
,,,,,,,,,so..think about it..................
.. save ur doors.LOL..........B
UT we also need a good summer
believe it or not BUT cannabis DOES grow outside HERE EVEN IN BURNLEY,,,,,,,,,,,,, ,,,,,,,,,so..think about it.................. .. save ur doors.LOL..........B UT we also need a good summer Burnleyboy38
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10:21am Sat 14 Jan 12

QuarryGang78 says...

Burnleyboy38 wrote:
believe it or not BUT cannabis DOES grow outside HERE EVEN IN BURNLEY,,,,,,,,,,,,,

,,,,,,,,,so..think about it..................

.. save ur doors.LOL..........B

UT we also need a good summer
Poly-tunnels...
[quote][p][bold]Burnleyboy38[/bold] wrote: believe it or not BUT cannabis DOES grow outside HERE EVEN IN BURNLEY,,,,,,,,,,,,, ,,,,,,,,,so..think about it.................. .. save ur doors.LOL..........B UT we also need a good summer[/p][/quote]Poly-tunnels... QuarryGang78
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10:25am Sat 14 Jan 12

Burnleyboy38 says...

NUP JUST OUTDOORS,i did it other yr n got a 4footer...but not nr my house just out in the wilderness.i was shocked to see it do so well.roll on summer ,but u have to germinate it urself AND u can use NORMAL soil./4get all this john innes old stuff n what not.mine was perfect
NUP JUST OUTDOORS,i did it other yr n got a 4footer...but not nr my house just out in the wilderness.i was shocked to see it do so well.roll on summer ,but u have to germinate it urself AND u can use NORMAL soil./4get all this john innes old stuff n what not.mine was perfect Burnleyboy38
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10:25am Sat 14 Jan 12

1LoveUnity says...

Thanks for sharing your experiences with us, Endunjustlaws. The discussion last night has set me thinking about a lot of things and I was looking at videos on You Tube, I found this very moving one one about a lady who suffers from Cerebal Palsy.

http://www.youtube.c
om/watch?v=v3pTZmHCy
M4&feature=related
Thanks for sharing your experiences with us, Endunjustlaws. The discussion last night has set me thinking about a lot of things and I was looking at videos on You Tube, I found this very moving one one about a lady who suffers from Cerebal Palsy. http://www.youtube.c om/watch?v=v3pTZmHCy M4&feature=related 1LoveUnity
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10:26am Sat 14 Jan 12

Burnleyboy38 says...

he got stung cos hes not from the right religion LOL
he got stung cos hes not from the right religion LOL Burnleyboy38
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11:10am Sat 14 Jan 12

cshaws says...

endunjustlaws wrote:
I am a single parent. My child knows I smoke cannabis. I have sat with him and discussed drugs and drug misuse at some length. Not surprisingly his knowledge and attitude towards alcohol and cigarettes has a sound footing. Grandma died of lung cancer at 63 and could not quit even after an early and hopeful diagnosis. His attitude toward alcohol somewhat formed by the fact that one of his best friends lost his Mum and Grandma through alcoholism (they died in the same ward in the same bed within 3 months of each other) but more so by watching and observing peoples behaviour. I have found programmes like nightcops to be a great educational tool and a good starting point for discussion on the subject.
He realises that the state sponsored terrorism he sees in these programmes could happen to us early one morning and that balaclava clad and possibly armed police have the powers to smash their way into our house just because when I get home from work after a hard day I choose a relatively harmless herb to help me relax and wind down instead of a gin and tonic. Does that scare him so much that he wants me to stop smoking cannabis and start drinking again instead?
ABSOLUTELY NOT and why because he can see the drunken idiots and their behaviour on TV in programmes like this and to him THAT IS VERY SCARY!
He knows how cannabis affects people because he can see it with his own eyes every day. He doesn't want to smoke or drink alcohol but even at his young age he can comprehend the unfairness and hypocrisy of the drug laws. When are our government, police and judiciary going to show as much intelligence as this 9yr old
What a fantastic, mature and level headed contribution. When this country grows up and our politicians catch a dose of sanity, I hope you apply to be a drugs awareness teacher. If the "scumbag kids who run around Burnley stealing cars" (CommonSense1 - lol) had parents with your maturity maybe things would be a lot different.
[quote][p][bold]endunjustlaws[/bold] wrote: I am a single parent. My child knows I smoke cannabis. I have sat with him and discussed drugs and drug misuse at some length. Not surprisingly his knowledge and attitude towards alcohol and cigarettes has a sound footing. Grandma died of lung cancer at 63 and could not quit even after an early and hopeful diagnosis. His attitude toward alcohol somewhat formed by the fact that one of his best friends lost his Mum and Grandma through alcoholism (they died in the same ward in the same bed within 3 months of each other) but more so by watching and observing peoples behaviour. I have found programmes like nightcops to be a great educational tool and a good starting point for discussion on the subject. He realises that the state sponsored terrorism he sees in these programmes could happen to us early one morning and that balaclava clad and possibly armed police have the powers to smash their way into our house just because when I get home from work after a hard day I choose a relatively harmless herb to help me relax and wind down instead of a gin and tonic. Does that scare him so much that he wants me to stop smoking cannabis and start drinking again instead? ABSOLUTELY NOT and why because he can see the drunken idiots and their behaviour on TV in programmes like this and to him THAT IS VERY SCARY! He knows how cannabis affects people because he can see it with his own eyes every day. He doesn't want to smoke or drink alcohol but even at his young age he can comprehend the unfairness and hypocrisy of the drug laws. When are our government, police and judiciary going to show as much intelligence as this 9yr old[/p][/quote]What a fantastic, mature and level headed contribution. When this country grows up and our politicians catch a dose of sanity, I hope you apply to be a drugs awareness teacher. If the "scumbag kids who run around Burnley stealing cars" (CommonSense1 - lol) had parents with your maturity maybe things would be a lot different. cshaws
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11:28am Sat 14 Jan 12

Burnleyboy38 says...

WHO KEEPS ON CHANGING MY COMMENTS???????? DOING MY HEAD IN NOW.
WHO KEEPS ON CHANGING MY COMMENTS???????? DOING MY HEAD IN NOW. Burnleyboy38
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11:29am Sat 14 Jan 12

Burnleyboy38 says...

WHO KEEPS ON CHANGING MY COMMENTS???????? DOING MY HEAD IN NOW.
WHO KEEPS ON CHANGING MY COMMENTS???????? DOING MY HEAD IN NOW. Burnleyboy38
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12:21pm Sat 14 Jan 12

Keep Darwen Green says...

endunjustlaws wrote:
I am a single parent. My child knows I smoke cannabis. I have sat with him and discussed drugs and drug misuse at some length. Not surprisingly his knowledge and attitude towards alcohol and cigarettes has a sound footing. Grandma died of lung cancer at 63 and could not quit even after an early and hopeful diagnosis. His attitude toward alcohol somewhat formed by the fact that one of his best friends lost his Mum and Grandma through alcoholism (they died in the same ward in the same bed within 3 months of each other) but more so by watching and observing peoples behaviour. I have found programmes like nightcops to be a great educational tool and a good starting point for discussion on the subject.
He realises that the state sponsored terrorism he sees in these programmes could happen to us early one morning and that balaclava clad and possibly armed police have the powers to smash their way into our house just because when I get home from work after a hard day I choose a relatively harmless herb to help me relax and wind down instead of a gin and tonic. Does that scare him so much that he wants me to stop smoking cannabis and start drinking again instead?
ABSOLUTELY NOT and why because he can see the drunken idiots and their behaviour on TV in programmes like this and to him THAT IS VERY SCARY!
He knows how cannabis affects people because he can see it with his own eyes every day. He doesn't want to smoke or drink alcohol but even at his young age he can comprehend the unfairness and hypocrisy of the drug laws. When are our government, police and judiciary going to show as much intelligence as this 9yr old
He needs removing from your weird world before you skin him and then wake up in the tinned section of tesco's waiting for the peas to arrive. All these people injecting cannabis should be tasered and then sent to guantanamo for some waterboarding. If you can't deal with reality without some kind of mind bending drug what chance has the little boy got of being a normal law abiding citizen when the first thing he sees is his parent crack piped out of its head as soon as ihe gets home from school?
[quote][p][bold]endunjustlaws[/bold] wrote: I am a single parent. My child knows I smoke cannabis. I have sat with him and discussed drugs and drug misuse at some length. Not surprisingly his knowledge and attitude towards alcohol and cigarettes has a sound footing. Grandma died of lung cancer at 63 and could not quit even after an early and hopeful diagnosis. His attitude toward alcohol somewhat formed by the fact that one of his best friends lost his Mum and Grandma through alcoholism (they died in the same ward in the same bed within 3 months of each other) but more so by watching and observing peoples behaviour. I have found programmes like nightcops to be a great educational tool and a good starting point for discussion on the subject. He realises that the state sponsored terrorism he sees in these programmes could happen to us early one morning and that balaclava clad and possibly armed police have the powers to smash their way into our house just because when I get home from work after a hard day I choose a relatively harmless herb to help me relax and wind down instead of a gin and tonic. Does that scare him so much that he wants me to stop smoking cannabis and start drinking again instead? ABSOLUTELY NOT and why because he can see the drunken idiots and their behaviour on TV in programmes like this and to him THAT IS VERY SCARY! He knows how cannabis affects people because he can see it with his own eyes every day. He doesn't want to smoke or drink alcohol but even at his young age he can comprehend the unfairness and hypocrisy of the drug laws. When are our government, police and judiciary going to show as much intelligence as this 9yr old[/p][/quote]He needs removing from your weird world before you skin him and then wake up in the tinned section of tesco's waiting for the peas to arrive. All these people injecting cannabis should be tasered and then sent to guantanamo for some waterboarding. If you can't deal with reality without some kind of mind bending drug what chance has the little boy got of being a normal law abiding citizen when the first thing he sees is his parent crack piped out of its head as soon as ihe gets home from school? Keep Darwen Green
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12:27pm Sat 14 Jan 12

Jack Stanley Evans says...

"All these people injecting cannabis"

"The first thing he sees is his parent crack piped out of its head"

Good bye!
"All these people injecting cannabis" "The first thing he sees is his parent crack piped out of its head" Good bye! Jack Stanley Evans
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1:31pm Sat 14 Jan 12

endunjustlaws says...

Your ignorance of the subject is obvious from your ridiculous comments. The first thing my Son sees when he comes home from School is his childminder as I am a single Father who works hard to support his child. In your weird world I suppose there should not be such a thing as a single Father working and bringing up a child on his own let alone anyone capable of holding down a job and recreationally using cannabis? Your dangerous and ignorant attitude towards the issues of recreational drug use be it with legal or illegal drugs is exactly what I am trying to avoid by being open and honest with my child regarding my experiences and those of others. Cannabis use can be problematic especially if used habitually from a young age. No way would I want my child getting into using any recreational drug be it illegal or legal until he is old enough to have an education and make an informed adult decision. Its no different with cannabis than it is with alcohol. Unfortunately and because of years of failed government policy I am sure that he is going to come across the necessity to make that decision before he is an adult so it is vital that I teach him the truth, the facts about all drugs, in a calm intelligent manner. Throughout history human beings have always had the desire to alter their conciousness or mood through the use of various substances. It will never be any different in my boys generation or generations to come. The sooner we recognise that this is a part of human nature we are never going to change the sooner we can end the costly and violent war on drugs and bring some common sense into the argument. Unfortunately Keep Darwin Green that sensible debate is never going to include someone as uneducated as you appear to be.
Your ignorance of the subject is obvious from your ridiculous comments. The first thing my Son sees when he comes home from School is his childminder as I am a single Father who works hard to support his child. In your weird world I suppose there should not be such a thing as a single Father working and bringing up a child on his own let alone anyone capable of holding down a job and recreationally using cannabis? Your dangerous and ignorant attitude towards the issues of recreational drug use be it with legal or illegal drugs is exactly what I am trying to avoid by being open and honest with my child regarding my experiences and those of others. Cannabis use can be problematic especially if used habitually from a young age. No way would I want my child getting into using any recreational drug be it illegal or legal until he is old enough to have an education and make an informed adult decision. Its no different with cannabis than it is with alcohol. Unfortunately and because of years of failed government policy I am sure that he is going to come across the necessity to make that decision before he is an adult so it is vital that I teach him the truth, the facts about all drugs, in a calm intelligent manner. Throughout history human beings have always had the desire to alter their conciousness or mood through the use of various substances. It will never be any different in my boys generation or generations to come. The sooner we recognise that this is a part of human nature we are never going to change the sooner we can end the costly and violent war on drugs and bring some common sense into the argument. Unfortunately Keep Darwin Green that sensible debate is never going to include someone as uneducated as you appear to be. endunjustlaws
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1:54pm Sat 14 Jan 12

Keep Darwen Green says...

endunjustlaws wrote:
Your ignorance of the subject is obvious from your ridiculous comments. The first thing my Son sees when he comes home from School is his childminder as I am a single Father who works hard to support his child. In your weird world I suppose there should not be such a thing as a single Father working and bringing up a child on his own let alone anyone capable of holding down a job and recreationally using cannabis? Your dangerous and ignorant attitude towards the issues of recreational drug use be it with legal or illegal drugs is exactly what I am trying to avoid by being open and honest with my child regarding my experiences and those of others. Cannabis use can be problematic especially if used habitually from a young age. No way would I want my child getting into using any recreational drug be it illegal or legal until he is old enough to have an education and make an informed adult decision. Its no different with cannabis than it is with alcohol. Unfortunately and because of years of failed government policy I am sure that he is going to come across the necessity to make that decision before he is an adult so it is vital that I teach him the truth, the facts about all drugs, in a calm intelligent manner. Throughout history human beings have always had the desire to alter their conciousness or mood through the use of various substances. It will never be any different in my boys generation or generations to come. The sooner we recognise that this is a part of human nature we are never going to change the sooner we can end the costly and violent war on drugs and bring some common sense into the argument. Unfortunately Keep Darwin Green that sensible debate is never going to include someone as uneducated as you appear to be.
So you condone getting mind blown as its happened throughout history since we first emerged from caves? with the shamens jigging around chanting after mindwiping themselves and telling us its a sign from god. No you crack pipe hitter, you are just incapable of dealing with a normal existence and prefer one which has been chemically enhanced. Then you preach to ma boy about how one mind bending mindwipe drug is worse than another.
Well from where I'm sitting you're all the same. I don't need educating to deal with reality I already manage to cope with no rocks involved. You on the other hand are unable to do so, until your head is full of them.
I refuse to be lectured by an addict. You need help to get you off the crack pipe and the podium. Sit down you junkie
[quote][p][bold]endunjustlaws[/bold] wrote: Your ignorance of the subject is obvious from your ridiculous comments. The first thing my Son sees when he comes home from School is his childminder as I am a single Father who works hard to support his child. In your weird world I suppose there should not be such a thing as a single Father working and bringing up a child on his own let alone anyone capable of holding down a job and recreationally using cannabis? Your dangerous and ignorant attitude towards the issues of recreational drug use be it with legal or illegal drugs is exactly what I am trying to avoid by being open and honest with my child regarding my experiences and those of others. Cannabis use can be problematic especially if used habitually from a young age. No way would I want my child getting into using any recreational drug be it illegal or legal until he is old enough to have an education and make an informed adult decision. Its no different with cannabis than it is with alcohol. Unfortunately and because of years of failed government policy I am sure that he is going to come across the necessity to make that decision before he is an adult so it is vital that I teach him the truth, the facts about all drugs, in a calm intelligent manner. Throughout history human beings have always had the desire to alter their conciousness or mood through the use of various substances. It will never be any different in my boys generation or generations to come. The sooner we recognise that this is a part of human nature we are never going to change the sooner we can end the costly and violent war on drugs and bring some common sense into the argument. Unfortunately Keep Darwin Green that sensible debate is never going to include someone as uneducated as you appear to be.[/p][/quote]So you condone getting mind blown as its happened throughout history since we first emerged from caves? with the shamens jigging around chanting after mindwiping themselves and telling us its a sign from god. No you crack pipe hitter, you are just incapable of dealing with a normal existence and prefer one which has been chemically enhanced. Then you preach to ma boy about how one mind bending mindwipe drug is worse than another. Well from where I'm sitting you're all the same. I don't need educating to deal with reality I already manage to cope with no rocks involved. You on the other hand are unable to do so, until your head is full of them. I refuse to be lectured by an addict. You need help to get you off the crack pipe and the podium. Sit down you junkie Keep Darwen Green
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1:56pm Sat 14 Jan 12

pdb951 says...

Another waste of police time.

Another waste of a persons life (now a criminal)

Make them leagal and lets move on.

Too much Miami Vice home rading going on
Another waste of police time. Another waste of a persons life (now a criminal) Make them leagal and lets move on. Too much Miami Vice home rading going on pdb951
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2:22pm Sat 14 Jan 12

PersonalityTwist says...

I recommend people watch the documentary Super High Me to see the pros and cons of cannabis. Without a doubt a victimless "crime". Get it over and done with and legalise it.
I recommend people watch the documentary Super High Me to see the pros and cons of cannabis. Without a doubt a victimless "crime". Get it over and done with and legalise it. PersonalityTwist
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2:27pm Sat 14 Jan 12

Burnleyboy38 says...

alcohol = usually violent
cigarettes - loadsa poisons
CANNABIS= TOTALLY NATURAL = cnt b assed to fight or do owt

WORK IT OUT POLITICIANS U dumbasses

and if alcohol and fags were brought out NOW theyd BOTH b class "A" drugs and so rightly they shud be

yet cannabis does no one any harm the government could tax it n get this country back on its feet cos they see how much tehyr busting yr in yr out they will NEVER stop the production so get ya heads sorted out !!!!!!
alcohol = usually violent cigarettes - loadsa poisons CANNABIS= TOTALLY NATURAL = cnt b assed to fight or do owt WORK IT OUT POLITICIANS U dumbasses and if alcohol and fags were brought out NOW theyd BOTH b class "A" drugs and so rightly they shud be yet cannabis does no one any harm the government could tax it n get this country back on its feet cos they see how much tehyr busting yr in yr out they will NEVER stop the production so get ya heads sorted out !!!!!! Burnleyboy38
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3:04pm Sat 14 Jan 12

endunjustlaws says...

Keep Darwen Green wrote:
endunjustlaws wrote:
Your ignorance of the subject is obvious from your ridiculous comments. The first thing my Son sees when he comes home from School is his childminder as I am a single Father who works hard to support his child. In your weird world I suppose there should not be such a thing as a single Father working and bringing up a child on his own let alone anyone capable of holding down a job and recreationally using cannabis? Your dangerous and ignorant attitude towards the issues of recreational drug use be it with legal or illegal drugs is exactly what I am trying to avoid by being open and honest with my child regarding my experiences and those of others. Cannabis use can be problematic especially if used habitually from a young age. No way would I want my child getting into using any recreational drug be it illegal or legal until he is old enough to have an education and make an informed adult decision. Its no different with cannabis than it is with alcohol. Unfortunately and because of years of failed government policy I am sure that he is going to come across the necessity to make that decision before he is an adult so it is vital that I teach him the truth, the facts about all drugs, in a calm intelligent manner. Throughout history human beings have always had the desire to alter their conciousness or mood through the use of various substances. It will never be any different in my boys generation or generations to come. The sooner we recognise that this is a part of human nature we are never going to change the sooner we can end the costly and violent war on drugs and bring some common sense into the argument. Unfortunately Keep Darwin Green that sensible debate is never going to include someone as uneducated as you appear to be.
So you condone getting mind blown as its happened throughout history since we first emerged from caves? with the shamens jigging around chanting after mindwiping themselves and telling us its a sign from god. No you crack pipe hitter, you are just incapable of dealing with a normal existence and prefer one which has been chemically enhanced. Then you preach to ma boy about how one mind bending mindwipe drug is worse than another.
Well from where I'm sitting you're all the same. I don't need educating to deal with reality I already manage to cope with no rocks involved. You on the other hand are unable to do so, until your head is full of them.
I refuse to be lectured by an addict. You need help to get you off the crack pipe and the podium. Sit down you junkie
As I said Keep Darwent Green you will NEVER be part of a sensible debate. I have let my Son read this thread so he can learn another important lesson about nasty hateful people, internet bullying and what happens if you don't get a good education. Thanks for helping me to teach him these important lessons.
[quote][p][bold]Keep Darwen Green[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]endunjustlaws[/bold] wrote: Your ignorance of the subject is obvious from your ridiculous comments. The first thing my Son sees when he comes home from School is his childminder as I am a single Father who works hard to support his child. In your weird world I suppose there should not be such a thing as a single Father working and bringing up a child on his own let alone anyone capable of holding down a job and recreationally using cannabis? Your dangerous and ignorant attitude towards the issues of recreational drug use be it with legal or illegal drugs is exactly what I am trying to avoid by being open and honest with my child regarding my experiences and those of others. Cannabis use can be problematic especially if used habitually from a young age. No way would I want my child getting into using any recreational drug be it illegal or legal until he is old enough to have an education and make an informed adult decision. Its no different with cannabis than it is with alcohol. Unfortunately and because of years of failed government policy I am sure that he is going to come across the necessity to make that decision before he is an adult so it is vital that I teach him the truth, the facts about all drugs, in a calm intelligent manner. Throughout history human beings have always had the desire to alter their conciousness or mood through the use of various substances. It will never be any different in my boys generation or generations to come. The sooner we recognise that this is a part of human nature we are never going to change the sooner we can end the costly and violent war on drugs and bring some common sense into the argument. Unfortunately Keep Darwin Green that sensible debate is never going to include someone as uneducated as you appear to be.[/p][/quote]So you condone getting mind blown as its happened throughout history since we first emerged from caves? with the shamens jigging around chanting after mindwiping themselves and telling us its a sign from god. No you crack pipe hitter, you are just incapable of dealing with a normal existence and prefer one which has been chemically enhanced. Then you preach to ma boy about how one mind bending mindwipe drug is worse than another. Well from where I'm sitting you're all the same. I don't need educating to deal with reality I already manage to cope with no rocks involved. You on the other hand are unable to do so, until your head is full of them. I refuse to be lectured by an addict. You need help to get you off the crack pipe and the podium. Sit down you junkie[/p][/quote]As I said Keep Darwent Green you will NEVER be part of a sensible debate. I have let my Son read this thread so he can learn another important lesson about nasty hateful people, internet bullying and what happens if you don't get a good education. Thanks for helping me to teach him these important lessons. endunjustlaws
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3:16pm Sat 14 Jan 12

1LoveUnity says...

Keep Darwen Green, I am puzzled by your posts, when I first read the first one I thought you were making a very toung in cheek statement, making these frankly ridiculous claims knowing that people would see what was going on and have a giggle, butt your subsequent posts have continued in the same way and have become spiteful and hateful remarks, with no logic or evidence to back them up. Can you please confirm weather you really mean these things you have been posting?
Keep Darwen Green, I am puzzled by your posts, when I first read the first one I thought you were making a very toung in cheek statement, making these frankly ridiculous claims knowing that people would see what was going on and have a giggle, butt your subsequent posts have continued in the same way and have become spiteful and hateful remarks, with no logic or evidence to back them up. Can you please confirm weather you really mean these things you have been posting? 1LoveUnity
  • Score: 0

8:30pm Sat 14 Jan 12

pdb951 says...

You anti every thing you dont like people make me sick. I do not take drug but I think we must legalise them. There is nothing to be gained from constantly driving users under ground and making them criminals. Making them legal at the age of consent will not make everyone suddenly take them. Nor will it make children do so. Stop telling consenting adults what they can or cant do.
You anti every thing you dont like people make me sick. I do not take drug but I think we must legalise them. There is nothing to be gained from constantly driving users under ground and making them criminals. Making them legal at the age of consent will not make everyone suddenly take them. Nor will it make children do so. Stop telling consenting adults what they can or cant do. pdb951
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10:11pm Sat 14 Jan 12

Keep Darwen Green says...

Sorry for the delay in posting, I've just come round from gouching out. I had this dream that some nutter smoked drugs in front of his nine year old child and then called me uneducated for saying he is a nutter. If its against the law you are teaching him to break it.
Great parenting
Sorry for the delay in posting, I've just come round from gouching out. I had this dream that some nutter smoked drugs in front of his nine year old child and then called me uneducated for saying he is a nutter. If its against the law you are teaching him to break it. Great parenting Keep Darwen Green
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12:44am Sun 15 Jan 12

Michael@ClitheroeSince58 says...

Keep Darwen Green wrote:
Sorry for the delay in posting, I've just come round from gouching out. I had this dream that some nutter smoked drugs in front of his nine year old child and then called me uneducated for saying he is a nutter. If its against the law you are teaching him to break it.
Great parenting
Are you bi-polar, not being nasty just asking :)
[quote][p][bold]Keep Darwen Green[/bold] wrote: Sorry for the delay in posting, I've just come round from gouching out. I had this dream that some nutter smoked drugs in front of his nine year old child and then called me uneducated for saying he is a nutter. If its against the law you are teaching him to break it. Great parenting[/p][/quote]Are you bi-polar, not being nasty just asking :) Michael@ClitheroeSince58
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12:55am Sun 15 Jan 12

Michael@ClitheroeSince58 says...

Burnleyboy38 wrote:
NUP JUST OUTDOORS,i did it other yr n got a 4footer...but not nr my house just out in the wilderness.i was shocked to see it do so well.roll on summer ,but u have to germinate it urself AND u can use NORMAL soil./4get all this john innes old stuff n what not.mine was perfect
It wilkl grow just fine outdoors nothing needed :)
[quote][p][bold]Burnleyboy38[/bold] wrote: NUP JUST OUTDOORS,i did it other yr n got a 4footer...but not nr my house just out in the wilderness.i was shocked to see it do so well.roll on summer ,but u have to germinate it urself AND u can use NORMAL soil./4get all this john innes old stuff n what not.mine was perfect[/p][/quote]It wilkl grow just fine outdoors nothing needed :) Michael@ClitheroeSince58
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1:04am Sun 15 Jan 12

Michael@ClitheroeSince58 says...

Can any one help me I'm trying to inject my self with cannabis lol funny stuff on here :) Information really is power
Can any one help me I'm trying to inject my self with cannabis lol funny stuff on here :) Information really is power Michael@ClitheroeSince58
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5:24am Sun 15 Jan 12

Burnleyboy38 says...

Jack Stanley Evans wrote:
"All these people injecting cannabis"

"The first thing he sees is his parent crack piped out of its head"

Good bye!
lol where do u get urs but ohhhhhhhhhhh hold on ju u CAN get injectable THC........that wuman did it in that prog.GIVE ME SUMMMMMMMMMMMMMM (SHAME im needle phobic) :o(
[quote][p][bold]Jack Stanley Evans[/bold] wrote: "All these people injecting cannabis" "The first thing he sees is his parent crack piped out of its head" Good bye![/p][/quote]lol where do u get urs but ohhhhhhhhhhh hold on ju u CAN get injectable THC........that wuman did it in that prog.GIVE ME SUMMMMMMMMMMMMMM (SHAME im needle phobic) :o( Burnleyboy38
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10:07am Sun 15 Jan 12

Burnleyboy38 says...

Michael@ClitheroeSin
ce58
wrote:
Can any one help me I'm trying to inject my self with cannabis lol funny stuff on here :) Information really is power
guess u dint watch that program .i think it was called"SHALL I OR NOT" n she got injected with sum PURE THC oh man id av luvd to try it out but needlephobia qwud stop me,IF im right its in dam u can get it im not sure or cud av been in a lab somewhere here i 4got was that long ago,,was FUNNY prog,cos she didnt normally use.bet shes a PURE POT HEAD now.LOL
[quote][p][bold]Michael@ClitheroeSin ce58[/bold] wrote: Can any one help me I'm trying to inject my self with cannabis lol funny stuff on here :) Information really is power[/p][/quote]guess u dint watch that program .i think it was called"SHALL I OR NOT" n she got injected with sum PURE THC oh man id av luvd to try it out but needlephobia qwud stop me,IF im right its in dam u can get it im not sure or cud av been in a lab somewhere here i 4got was that long ago,,was FUNNY prog,cos she didnt normally use.bet shes a PURE POT HEAD now.LOL Burnleyboy38
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11:50am Sun 15 Jan 12

1LoveUnity says...

Burnleyboy38 wrote:
Michael@ClitheroeSin

ce58
wrote:
Can any one help me I'm trying to inject my self with cannabis lol funny stuff on here :) Information really is power
guess u dint watch that program .i think it was called"SHALL I OR NOT" n she got injected with sum PURE THC oh man id av luvd to try it out but needlephobia qwud stop me,IF im right its in dam u can get it im not sure or cud av been in a lab somewhere here i 4got was that long ago,,was FUNNY prog,cos she didnt normally use.bet shes a PURE POT HEAD now.LOL
Yeah I saw that programme, I think they were trying to be fair with it. I saw that woman with the injections, they gave her some pure THC and she didn't really have a good time but the next day they gave her some THC mixed with CBD and she had a great time with that, I mean a REALLY GREAT time. That just shows how well balanced the plant is when we let it grow naturally and we get the full benefit of it.

I agree with you about needles Burnleyboy38 I don't like to get injections, even from the doctor I do anything to avoid it.
[quote][p][bold]Burnleyboy38[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Michael@ClitheroeSin ce58[/bold] wrote: Can any one help me I'm trying to inject my self with cannabis lol funny stuff on here :) Information really is power[/p][/quote]guess u dint watch that program .i think it was called"SHALL I OR NOT" n she got injected with sum PURE THC oh man id av luvd to try it out but needlephobia qwud stop me,IF im right its in dam u can get it im not sure or cud av been in a lab somewhere here i 4got was that long ago,,was FUNNY prog,cos she didnt normally use.bet shes a PURE POT HEAD now.LOL[/p][/quote]Yeah I saw that programme, I think they were trying to be fair with it. I saw that woman with the injections, they gave her some pure THC and she didn't really have a good time but the next day they gave her some THC mixed with CBD and she had a great time with that, I mean a REALLY GREAT time. That just shows how well balanced the plant is when we let it grow naturally and we get the full benefit of it. I agree with you about needles Burnleyboy38 I don't like to get injections, even from the doctor I do anything to avoid it. 1LoveUnity
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11:52am Sun 15 Jan 12

1LoveUnity says...

Nice bit of cake though, now you're talking!
Nice bit of cake though, now you're talking! 1LoveUnity
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12:38pm Sun 15 Jan 12

Keep Darwen Green says...

Michael@ClitheroeSin
ce58
wrote:
Keep Darwen Green wrote:
Sorry for the delay in posting, I've just come round from gouching out. I had this dream that some nutter smoked drugs in front of his nine year old child and then called me uneducated for saying he is a nutter. If its against the law you are teaching him to break it.
Great parenting
Are you bi-polar, not being nasty just asking :)
No definately hetrosexual. Bi polar was an invented disorder to describe someone who after smoking too much weed now loses arguments with himself.
Think about that one.:0)
[quote][p][bold]Michael@ClitheroeSin ce58[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Keep Darwen Green[/bold] wrote: Sorry for the delay in posting, I've just come round from gouching out. I had this dream that some nutter smoked drugs in front of his nine year old child and then called me uneducated for saying he is a nutter. If its against the law you are teaching him to break it. Great parenting[/p][/quote]Are you bi-polar, not being nasty just asking :)[/p][/quote]No definately hetrosexual. Bi polar was an invented disorder to describe someone who after smoking too much weed now loses arguments with himself. Think about that one.:0) Keep Darwen Green
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1:03pm Sun 15 Jan 12

Keep Darwen Green says...

Sorry I stand corrected. Bi polar is an invented disorder to describe someone who has injected too much cannabis and now loses arguments with himself.
Think about that one too :0).
Anyway all these cannabis users leaving their used hyperdermics lying around while they lie there mindwiped must be a health hazard. Does this 9 year old lad just step over you and make his own tea?
Sorry I stand corrected. Bi polar is an invented disorder to describe someone who has injected too much cannabis and now loses arguments with himself. Think about that one too :0). Anyway all these cannabis users leaving their used hyperdermics lying around while they lie there mindwiped must be a health hazard. Does this 9 year old lad just step over you and make his own tea? Keep Darwen Green
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2:42pm Sun 15 Jan 12

1LoveUnity says...

Jack Stanley Evans wrote:
So what can be done to make this happen? It is important that people know about this.

Who is doing anything about this? Is it just the LibDems?

I must say 1Love, I am impressed with your ideas.
Well I've been looking around and many people seem to be coming together now to press for the changes that need to be made. There was even a presentation made at Parliament last year with a discussion plan being presented showing that the U.K. as a whole could be much better off with a legal supply chain for Cannabis. As more people band together into a unified voice I hope we can have more influence.
[quote][p][bold]Jack Stanley Evans[/bold] wrote: So what can be done to make this happen? It is important that people know about this. Who is doing anything about this? Is it just the LibDems? I must say 1Love, I am impressed with your ideas.[/p][/quote]Well I've been looking around and many people seem to be coming together now to press for the changes that need to be made. There was even a presentation made at Parliament last year with a discussion plan being presented showing that the U.K. as a whole could be much better off with a legal supply chain for Cannabis. As more people band together into a unified voice I hope we can have more influence. 1LoveUnity
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4:22pm Sun 15 Jan 12

Keep Darwen Green says...

1LoveUnity wrote:
Jack Stanley Evans wrote:
So what can be done to make this happen? It is important that people know about this.

Who is doing anything about this? Is it just the LibDems?

I must say 1Love, I am impressed with your ideas.
Well I've been looking around and many people seem to be coming together now to press for the changes that need to be made. There was even a presentation made at Parliament last year with a discussion plan being presented showing that the U.K. as a whole could be much better off with a legal supply chain for Cannabis. As more people band together into a unified voice I hope we can have more influence.
So all the junkies think if they share a needle, people will listen do you. Cannabis is wrong, it kills and spreads disease.
[quote][p][bold]1LoveUnity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jack Stanley Evans[/bold] wrote: So what can be done to make this happen? It is important that people know about this. Who is doing anything about this? Is it just the LibDems? I must say 1Love, I am impressed with your ideas.[/p][/quote]Well I've been looking around and many people seem to be coming together now to press for the changes that need to be made. There was even a presentation made at Parliament last year with a discussion plan being presented showing that the U.K. as a whole could be much better off with a legal supply chain for Cannabis. As more people band together into a unified voice I hope we can have more influence.[/p][/quote]So all the junkies think if they share a needle, people will listen do you. Cannabis is wrong, it kills and spreads disease. Keep Darwen Green
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5:50pm Sun 15 Jan 12

Michael@ClitheroeSince58 says...

Keep Darwen Green wrote:
1LoveUnity wrote:
Jack Stanley Evans wrote:
So what can be done to make this happen? It is important that people know about this.

Who is doing anything about this? Is it just the LibDems?

I must say 1Love, I am impressed with your ideas.
Well I've been looking around and many people seem to be coming together now to press for the changes that need to be made. There was even a presentation made at Parliament last year with a discussion plan being presented showing that the U.K. as a whole could be much better off with a legal supply chain for Cannabis. As more people band together into a unified voice I hope we can have more influence.
So all the junkies think if they share a needle, people will listen do you. Cannabis is wrong, it kills and spreads disease.
Your funny :)
[quote][p][bold]Keep Darwen Green[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]1LoveUnity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jack Stanley Evans[/bold] wrote: So what can be done to make this happen? It is important that people know about this. Who is doing anything about this? Is it just the LibDems? I must say 1Love, I am impressed with your ideas.[/p][/quote]Well I've been looking around and many people seem to be coming together now to press for the changes that need to be made. There was even a presentation made at Parliament last year with a discussion plan being presented showing that the U.K. as a whole could be much better off with a legal supply chain for Cannabis. As more people band together into a unified voice I hope we can have more influence.[/p][/quote]So all the junkies think if they share a needle, people will listen do you. Cannabis is wrong, it kills and spreads disease.[/p][/quote]Your funny :) Michael@ClitheroeSince58
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10:07am Mon 16 Jan 12

endunjustlaws says...

Keep Darwen Green wrote:
Sorry I stand corrected. Bi polar is an invented disorder to describe someone who has injected too much cannabis and now loses arguments with himself.
Think about that one too :0).
Anyway all these cannabis users leaving their used hyperdermics lying around while they lie there mindwiped must be a health hazard. Does this 9 year old lad just step over you and make his own tea?
LMFAO I have come to the conclusion Keep Darwin Green that you must be a comedian trolling this thread for a laugh because what you have to say is beyond ridiculous. I refuse to believe there are real people out there as stupid as you. Go and work your routine somewhere else
[quote][p][bold]Keep Darwen Green[/bold] wrote: Sorry I stand corrected. Bi polar is an invented disorder to describe someone who has injected too much cannabis and now loses arguments with himself. Think about that one too :0). Anyway all these cannabis users leaving their used hyperdermics lying around while they lie there mindwiped must be a health hazard. Does this 9 year old lad just step over you and make his own tea?[/p][/quote]LMFAO I have come to the conclusion Keep Darwin Green that you must be a comedian trolling this thread for a laugh because what you have to say is beyond ridiculous. I refuse to believe there are real people out there as stupid as you. Go and work your routine somewhere else endunjustlaws
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11:59am Mon 16 Jan 12

Burnleyboy38 says...

im SO GLAD my mum WASNT on drugs,think id have hated it,n i say this MOST ppl i know whos parents touched drugs end up the same !! or go one step higher n move up a class.most 9yr olds DONT know wots wot n just agree cos they THINK they do.remember bein 9 n "I KNOW IT ALL" then gettin to say 20 n STILL saying it am nr enuf Urgh 40 n am STILL saying it !!
im SO GLAD my mum WASNT on drugs,think id have hated it,n i say this MOST ppl i know whos parents touched drugs end up the same !! or go one step higher n move up a class.most 9yr olds DONT know wots wot n just agree cos they THINK they do.remember bein 9 n "I KNOW IT ALL" then gettin to say 20 n STILL saying it am nr enuf Urgh 40 n am STILL saying it !! Burnleyboy38
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2:59pm Mon 16 Jan 12

Keep Darwen Green says...

Look like all the junkies have passed out and are now drowning in their own vomit.
Just say NO, Don't let your life be taken over by the receptors in your brain. Fight back, refuse to be an addict, don't you know if you keep on injecting cannabis your veins will collapse and you will die.
Look like all the junkies have passed out and are now drowning in their own vomit. Just say NO, Don't let your life be taken over by the receptors in your brain. Fight back, refuse to be an addict, don't you know if you keep on injecting cannabis your veins will collapse and you will die. Keep Darwen Green
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11:47am Tue 17 Jan 12

Lifeinthemix says...

you really need to get to grips with what is law and what is not.

Stautes are not law they are rules and regulations, they require your consent before they can take on the power of law :

https://www.lifeinth
emix.info/british-la
w/british-law-green-
card/
you really need to get to grips with what is law and what is not. Stautes are not law they are rules and regulations, they require your consent before they can take on the power of law : https://www.lifeinth emix.info/british-la w/british-law-green- card/ Lifeinthemix
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4:26pm Tue 17 Jan 12

Burnleyboy38 says...

Keep Darwen Green wrote:
Look like all the junkies have passed out and are now drowning in their own vomit.
Just say NO, Don't let your life be taken over by the receptors in your brain. Fight back, refuse to be an addict, don't you know if you keep on injecting cannabis your veins will collapse and you will die.
u fool u CANT BUY INJECTABLE Cannabis.........onl
y heroin,amphetamine and coke or crack is injectible and easily available,iv NVR heard of ANYONE sellin injectible THC,,,,,anyone know any1 let me know LOLLLL
[quote][p][bold]Keep Darwen Green[/bold] wrote: Look like all the junkies have passed out and are now drowning in their own vomit. Just say NO, Don't let your life be taken over by the receptors in your brain. Fight back, refuse to be an addict, don't you know if you keep on injecting cannabis your veins will collapse and you will die.[/p][/quote]u fool u CANT BUY INJECTABLE Cannabis.........onl y heroin,amphetamine and coke or crack is injectible and easily available,iv NVR heard of ANYONE sellin injectible THC,,,,,anyone know any1 let me know LOLLLL Burnleyboy38
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6:55pm Tue 17 Jan 12

Rosemount says...

yes he is a member of the committee and no we dont have any reason to have police or the ambulance service brought to the club we have a good club with no trouble only from children congregating outside the club because they have nowhere to go they are the nuisance that we deal with ourselves so as not to stretch the services
yes he is a member of the committee and no we dont have any reason to have police or the ambulance service brought to the club we have a good club with no trouble only from children congregating outside the club because they have nowhere to go they are the nuisance that we deal with ourselves so as not to stretch the services Rosemount
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