Speed limit signs vandalised in Rossendale

10:00pm Thursday 22nd March 2012 in Helmshore

OBLITERATED A 20mph sign on Broadway in Haslingden. Main picture, another vandalised sign OBLITERATED A 20mph sign on Broadway in Haslingden. Main picture, another vandalised sign

SIGNS imposing a controversial speed limit in Rossendale have been vandalised.

A number of signs in Broadway, Helmshore, have been sprayed with silver paint, causing confusion for motorists.

The signs were put up in October and November last year, close to Haslingden High School, after the limit was rolled out throughout all residential and school areas across Lancashire.

After continued calls from residents and councillors to scrap the restriction, a review of the limit on the stretch was carried out by Lancashire County Council.

But councillors decided that the number of nearby schools and the large numbers of pedestrians and cyclists meant there was a good case for the 20mph speed limit.

Tim Ashton, cabinet member for highways and transport, said that despite opposition to the the speed limit, it was here to stay.

He said: “I understand that a couple of the signs have now been vandalised with spray paint.

“The police consider this to be criminal damage and will take action against the culprits accordingly.

"We will clean up the signs and will continue to work with the police and the community to fully establish the 'Twenty's Plenty' message.

"I have visited this road and met Councillors Darryl Smith and Peter Evans, and after a long discussion we have reviewed the 20mph limit in the Broadway area, as promised.

“The decision is that the speed limit will remain and that we will review it again in a year's time.”

A spokesperson for Lancashire Police said: “We are treating this as criminal activity and anybody with any information should report it to police on 101.”

Comments (18)

11:11pm Thu 22 Mar 12

living the end times in BB1 says...

It was the roadrunner..tweet tweet.
It was the roadrunner..tweet tweet. living the end times in BB1

9:09am Fri 23 Mar 12

Dogsbolloxs says...

Lets face it, the police can't enforce this speed limit or any of the other stupid ideas brought in recently. Using a mobile phone whilst driving, non-smoking in company vehicles. We motorist just continue to do what we want anyway.
Lets face it, the police can't enforce this speed limit or any of the other stupid ideas brought in recently. Using a mobile phone whilst driving, non-smoking in company vehicles. We motorist just continue to do what we want anyway. Dogsbolloxs

9:13am Fri 23 Mar 12

driversa says...

Well, you know the answer to this stupidity from Councillor Tim Ashton and his collegues, vote them out at the next election.

If the majority of residents don't want a 20mph limit, who are the council (elected by the residents) to impose it?

Get rid of them and put some sensible people in their place.
Well, you know the answer to this stupidity from Councillor Tim Ashton and his collegues, vote them out at the next election. If the majority of residents don't want a 20mph limit, who are the council (elected by the residents) to impose it? Get rid of them and put some sensible people in their place. driversa

9:17am Fri 23 Mar 12

s_smith says...

This is what happens in a democracy - it is led almost entirely by the vocal minority.
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And central government want to give MORE power to these elected morons...
This is what happens in a democracy - it is led almost entirely by the vocal minority. . And central government want to give MORE power to these elected morons... s_smith

9:53am Fri 23 Mar 12

mavrick says...

I remember the county imposing a 7.5 tonne limit on the grane rd between Haslingden and Blackburn, their reason was to stop the accidents caused by the speeding juggernauts!!!! since the ban the accident rate has gone up not down. when aksed if they were going to lift the ban i am afraid a deathly silence has become them. so it won't be reviewed as the imaginary statistics used are the bible. but as has been mentioned you could vote them out, I don't know at this moment who would replace them as I have no faith in any of them.
I remember the county imposing a 7.5 tonne limit on the grane rd between Haslingden and Blackburn, their reason was to stop the accidents caused by the speeding juggernauts!!!! since the ban the accident rate has gone up not down. when aksed if they were going to lift the ban i am afraid a deathly silence has become them. so it won't be reviewed as the imaginary statistics used are the bible. but as has been mentioned you could vote them out, I don't know at this moment who would replace them as I have no faith in any of them. mavrick

9:53am Fri 23 Mar 12

stagfest says...

Can't wait until next year so I can get rid of the Tory morons at the County Council!!!
Can't wait until next year so I can get rid of the Tory morons at the County Council!!! stagfest

11:38am Fri 23 Mar 12

Cha'mone MF says...

Dogsbolloxs wrote:
Lets face it, the police can't enforce this speed limit or any of the other stupid ideas brought in recently. Using a mobile phone whilst driving, non-smoking in company vehicles. We motorist just continue to do what we want anyway.
Who can enforce it then? Dentists?
[quote][p][bold]Dogsbolloxs[/bold] wrote: Lets face it, the police can't enforce this speed limit or any of the other stupid ideas brought in recently. Using a mobile phone whilst driving, non-smoking in company vehicles. We motorist just continue to do what we want anyway.[/p][/quote]Who can enforce it then? Dentists? Cha'mone MF

11:53am Fri 23 Mar 12

Dogsbolloxs says...

Nobody can, unless we are willing to pay out a huge amount in Policing costs Ch'mone that is my point. Why then waste all this money on signage and legislation to bring in a rule that is unenforceable?
Nobody can, unless we are willing to pay out a huge amount in Policing costs Ch'mone that is my point. Why then waste all this money on signage and legislation to bring in a rule that is unenforceable? Dogsbolloxs

12:04pm Fri 23 Mar 12

Cha'mone MF says...

Dogsbolloxs wrote:
Nobody can, unless we are willing to pay out a huge amount in Policing costs Ch'mone that is my point. Why then waste all this money on signage and legislation to bring in a rule that is unenforceable?
Because maybe we are being relied on to obey the law like everybody should do. The Police early do enforce speed limits but obviously they are limited as to what they can do on account of the number of roads and volume of vehicles travelling on them.

I can't work out if you are actually suggesting that motorists should basically do what they want because there is very little chance of being caught or not?
[quote][p][bold]Dogsbolloxs[/bold] wrote: Nobody can, unless we are willing to pay out a huge amount in Policing costs Ch'mone that is my point. Why then waste all this money on signage and legislation to bring in a rule that is unenforceable?[/p][/quote]Because maybe we are being relied on to obey the law like everybody should do. The Police early do enforce speed limits but obviously they are limited as to what they can do on account of the number of roads and volume of vehicles travelling on them. I can't work out if you are actually suggesting that motorists should basically do what they want because there is very little chance of being caught or not? Cha'mone MF

3:47pm Fri 23 Mar 12

stagfest says...

Problem is you can't keep to the law because speedos aren't made to be anywhere near accurate at 20mph.
Problem is you can't keep to the law because speedos aren't made to be anywhere near accurate at 20mph. stagfest

5:58pm Fri 23 Mar 12

pwitch says...

I dont mind a 20mph limit during school hours but why should it be mandatory at all other times - such as night time after school, when there should not be children about on that road. These 20mph restrictions are expensive on fuel as you only can use the 2nd gear, and with the cost of fuel increasing so much no wonder drivers get fed up of all this bolony.
I dont mind a 20mph limit during school hours but why should it be mandatory at all other times - such as night time after school, when there should not be children about on that road. These 20mph restrictions are expensive on fuel as you only can use the 2nd gear, and with the cost of fuel increasing so much no wonder drivers get fed up of all this bolony. pwitch

7:41pm Fri 23 Mar 12

HelmshoreBoy says...

I would like to know how many of the objectors to the 20 mph restriction actually live in Broadway and how many live on the jam butty estates of Mercer Crescent and Fairhills, ie those who commute along Broadway in their big flash cars.

Secondly, how many of their kids go to one of the four schools on Broadway, which they drop off as close as possible to the school gates, rather than let them walk and cause mayhem every morning?

Thirdly, what value do they place on their childrens' lives? Does it equate to the price of a litre of fuel?

Patience is clearly a virtue these objectors do not possess. Try setting off earlier and let your kids walk to school.

Drive along our local roads with a little bit more circumspection
and keep our village safe.
Remember, now its got the seal of approval, the faceless warriors in the yellow and blue vans will soon be out and the fixed penalties will be dropping through your letter box.
I would like to know how many of the objectors to the 20 mph restriction actually live in Broadway and how many live on the jam butty estates of Mercer Crescent and Fairhills, ie those who commute along Broadway in their big flash cars. Secondly, how many of their kids go to one of the four schools on Broadway, which they drop off as close as possible to the school gates, rather than let them walk and cause mayhem every morning? Thirdly, what value do they place on their childrens' lives? Does it equate to the price of a litre of fuel? Patience is clearly a virtue these objectors do not possess. Try setting off earlier and let your kids walk to school. Drive along our local roads with a little bit more circumspection and keep our village safe. Remember, now its got the seal of approval, the faceless warriors in the yellow and blue vans will soon be out and the fixed penalties will be dropping through your letter box. HelmshoreBoy

7:51pm Fri 23 Mar 12

Cha'mone MF says...

stagfest wrote:
Problem is you can't keep to the law because speedos aren't made to be anywhere near accurate at 20mph.
Even at 20 m.p.h that's one fast pair of swimming trunks!
[quote][p][bold]stagfest[/bold] wrote: Problem is you can't keep to the law because speedos aren't made to be anywhere near accurate at 20mph.[/p][/quote]Even at 20 m.p.h that's one fast pair of swimming trunks! Cha'mone MF

8:28pm Fri 23 Mar 12

rilistic says...

Well said Helmshoreboy - fortunately the selfish morons who don't care about children's safety are in a very small minority.
Well said Helmshoreboy - fortunately the selfish morons who don't care about children's safety are in a very small minority. rilistic

8:29pm Fri 23 Mar 12

rilistic says...

Well said Helmshoreboy - fortunately the selfish morons who don't care about children's safety are in a very small minority.
Well said Helmshoreboy - fortunately the selfish morons who don't care about children's safety are in a very small minority. rilistic

9:39pm Fri 23 Mar 12

Michael@ClitheroeSince58 says...

Children should be on the footpath not the road. It's numpty parents that's the problem not motorists.
Children should be on the footpath not the road. It's numpty parents that's the problem not motorists. Michael@ClitheroeSince58

9:08am Sat 24 Mar 12

pdb951 says...

Scrap this lunatic idea. If you must have retrictions they should only apply during school transfer hours not all day a nd night. No wonder peoplr get pi***d off with these stupid blinkered councils. There are too many council workers with too much time on their hands. GET RID!!!
Scrap this lunatic idea. If you must have retrictions they should only apply during school transfer hours not all day a nd night. No wonder peoplr get pi***d off with these stupid blinkered councils. There are too many council workers with too much time on their hands. GET RID!!! pdb951

10:23pm Mon 26 Mar 12

brossen99 says...

I was just speculating that if cars are not prepared to slow down for you in the middle of the road with the potential to open an offside car door then there is not one chance in hell that they are going to take any notice whatsoever of a number printed on a tin disc. Perhaps you are working on the " little Hitler " theory that in a 20 zone if you get splatted you will be more likely to get compensation, even in cases where it would have been your own stupid fault under the current 30 rules. Its simply not good enough perhaps unless you are a ten bob fat cat but everyone needs to remember that 20 Zones are a key factor in why car insurance premiums have gone up so much recently along with the Welfare Reform Bill effectively privatising long term disability benefits. And in any case if you always do the safe thing and look twice before you endanger yourself you will find that in the case of the few probably half blind people actually happy to keep to 20 the time you have to wait for stuff going past increases, plus traffic will bunch up and the road will turn into a funeral procession and it will take ages to cross.
I was just speculating that if cars are not prepared to slow down for you in the middle of the road with the potential to open an offside car door then there is not one chance in hell that they are going to take any notice whatsoever of a number printed on a tin disc. Perhaps you are working on the " little Hitler " theory that in a 20 zone if you get splatted you will be more likely to get compensation, even in cases where it would have been your own stupid fault under the current 30 rules. Its simply not good enough perhaps unless you are a ten bob fat cat but everyone needs to remember that 20 Zones are a key factor in why car insurance premiums have gone up so much recently along with the Welfare Reform Bill effectively privatising long term disability benefits. And in any case if you always do the safe thing and look twice before you endanger yourself you will find that in the case of the few probably half blind people actually happy to keep to 20 the time you have to wait for stuff going past increases, plus traffic will bunch up and the road will turn into a funeral procession and it will take ages to cross. brossen99

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