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Dogs shot dead after killing horse in Haslingden
3:02pm Sunday 27th April 2008
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TWO rottweilers that are believed to have mauled a horse to death were shot by police officers.
Police received a call at around 1.40am this morning to say that two rottweiler dogs were attacking a horse in a field off Clough End Road, Haslingden.
When officers arrived at the scene they found the horse lying dead in the field after what appeared to have been a savage attack by the two dogs.
Attempts were made to locate the owner of the horse and the dogs, but when they could not be found the decision was taken to shoot the dogs.
A police spokesman said: "When we arrived there we found that the horse had been killed.
"It was deemed that the two dogs posed a significant threat to public safety and both were shot and killed by armed officers.
"We are still trying to trace the owner of the horse and the dogs and would appeal to them to get in touch."
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bacup mum, newline says...
10:06pm Fri 2 May 08
Animal Lover wrote:hi i agree dogs or people who are dangerous killers should be destroyed. For info theres dozens of posts about sophie and rob with hundreds of comments, one has over 630.
i often read comments made by readers on this site and i can honestly say my faith in mankind is dwindling.. ive just been reading about Sophie Lancaster murderers and the sentence they were given and believe it or not there are only 70 comments about how the scum should be shot... yet over 200 people have opinions on whether these dogs deserved to be shot.. yes they should but for those of you that took the time to argue with each other over it... get a grip.. read the Sophies site and get a grip... no matter what the bred of dog, they killed and deserved to die, animals and humans alike
bacup mum, newline says...
10:05pm Fri 2 May 08
Animal Lover wrote:hi i agree dogs or people who are dangerous killers should be destroyed. For info theres dozens of posts about sophie and rob with hundreds of comments, one has over 630.
i often read comments made by readers on this site and i can honestly say my faith in mankind is dwindling.. ive just been reading about Sophie Lancaster murderers and the sentence they were given and believe it or not there are only 70 comments about how the scum should be shot... yet over 200 people have opinions on whether these dogs deserved to be shot.. yes they should but for those of you that took the time to argue with each other over it... get a grip.. read the Sophies site and get a grip... no matter what the bred of dog, they killed and deserved to die, animals and humans alike
Lorna, says...
9:17pm Fri 2 May 08
Animal Lover wrote:I don't believe the majority of people did actually disagree that the dogs should have been shot but what I personally object to a whole breed or all dogs being damned without looking at the bigger picture.
i often read comments made by readers on this site and i can honestly say my faith in mankind is dwindling.. ive just been reading about Sophie Lancaster murderers and the sentence they were given and believe it or not there are only 70 comments about how the scum should be shot... yet over 200 people have opinions on whether these dogs deserved to be shot.. yes they should but for those of you that took the time to argue with each other over it... get a grip.. read the Sophies site and get a grip... no matter what the bred of dog, they killed and deserved to die, animals and humans alike
In the news today another pony was murdered, this time by drunken thugs. Were they shot, no, but they are more resposible for their actions than a dog.
I would agree with your opinions on human kind, I am ashamed.
Animal Lover, Burnley says...
7:55pm Fri 2 May 08
i often read comments made by readers on this site and i can honestly say my faith in mankind is dwindling.. ive just been reading about Sophie Lancaster murderers and the sentence they were given and believe it or not there are only 70 comments about how the scum should be shot... yet over 200 people have opinions on whether these dogs deserved to be shot.. yes they should but for those of you that took the time to argue with each other over it... get a grip.. read the Sophies site and get a grip... no matter what the bred of dog, they killed and deserved to die, animals and humans alike
Jason, Devon says...
7:25pm Fri 2 May 08
outsiderlookingin wrote:You raise some very valid points, I fully agree.
Actually, some breeds are more prone to violent behaviour than others. Thats mainly the fault of dog breeders.
Take German Shepard dogs. Because of the way they have been genetically manipulated by dog breeders, they can suffer from various genetic diseases and unnatural deformities, such as Hip Displacia. They also have a tendancy to develop brain tumours, and so theres a mass of incidents involving otherwise placid pet German Shepards suddenly going beserk in old age and attacking children or other dogs. To make it worse, some German Shepards in the US have been cross bred with wild wolfs and the resulting crossbreed is a dangerous combination, a real unpredictable killer.
Pit Bull Terriers have been deliberately bred and interbred with aggressive sires, to produce a dog that is basically unsuitable for a pet because it has an innate temperament suitable only for hunting, killing and fighting.
The deliberate genetic manipulation of canines and felines for purely monetary greed and human vanity is appalling, and doesnt benefit dogs at all. They are left with dozens of genetic diseases and some have appalling lives suffering abnormal conditions.
Mary, Liverpool says...
9:40am Fri 2 May 08
Someone ban Danny J from t'internet
Danny J, London says...
8:12am Fri 2 May 08
So dog owners on here are saying "but it's the owners who don't train them right" but then say "all breeds can be dangerous". There's a lot of double talk on here, but the bottom line is dogs are dangerous, naturally. Thus, dogs should be banned.
I mean, come on people, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to work out that is the only solution to the many dead children and animals that have been the direct cause of a dog attacking.
You may have to give up on acting like Paris Hilton, with the dog that matches the handbag, but at least we won't be hearing about kids being murdered by these dogs.
And for the record, I too was wondering about the horse owner. Seems that this pony was only an "it" like some flash car to this owner and I'm sure mummy will buy her another by the sound of it, so she can whip the crap out of that one with pony club friends in their 4x4s. I HOPE I'M WRONG, but the post from that owner seemed less than bothered about the pony, and more bothered about people being angry with people who own dogs.
Bottom line, we're treating animals like new sofas. It's wrong and it's the short end of a long stick.
I mean, come on people, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to work out that is the only solution to the many dead children and animals that have been the direct cause of a dog attacking.
You may have to give up on acting like Paris Hilton, with the dog that matches the handbag, but at least we won't be hearing about kids being murdered by these dogs.
And for the record, I too was wondering about the horse owner. Seems that this pony was only an "it" like some flash car to this owner and I'm sure mummy will buy her another by the sound of it, so she can whip the crap out of that one with pony club friends in their 4x4s. I HOPE I'M WRONG, but the post from that owner seemed less than bothered about the pony, and more bothered about people being angry with people who own dogs.
Bottom line, we're treating animals like new sofas. It's wrong and it's the short end of a long stick.
outsiderlookingin, Bristol says...
11:50pm Thu 1 May 08
Actually, some breeds are more prone to violent behaviour than others. Thats mainly the fault of dog breeders.
Take German Shepard dogs. Because of the way they have been genetically manipulated by dog breeders, they can suffer from various genetic diseases and unnatural deformities, such as Hip Displacia. They also have a tendancy to develop brain tumours, and so theres a mass of incidents involving otherwise placid pet German Shepards suddenly going beserk in old age and attacking children or other dogs. To make it worse, some German Shepards in the US have been cross bred with wild wolfs and the resulting crossbreed is a dangerous combination, a real unpredictable killer.
Pit Bull Terriers have been deliberately bred and interbred with aggressive sires, to produce a dog that is basically unsuitable for a pet because it has an innate temperament suitable only for hunting, killing and fighting.
The deliberate genetic manipulation of canines and felines for purely monetary greed and human vanity is appalling, and doesnt benefit dogs at all. They are left with dozens of genetic diseases and some have appalling lives suffering abnormal conditions.
Take German Shepard dogs. Because of the way they have been genetically manipulated by dog breeders, they can suffer from various genetic diseases and unnatural deformities, such as Hip Displacia. They also have a tendancy to develop brain tumours, and so theres a mass of incidents involving otherwise placid pet German Shepards suddenly going beserk in old age and attacking children or other dogs. To make it worse, some German Shepards in the US have been cross bred with wild wolfs and the resulting crossbreed is a dangerous combination, a real unpredictable killer.
Pit Bull Terriers have been deliberately bred and interbred with aggressive sires, to produce a dog that is basically unsuitable for a pet because it has an innate temperament suitable only for hunting, killing and fighting.
The deliberate genetic manipulation of canines and felines for purely monetary greed and human vanity is appalling, and doesnt benefit dogs at all. They are left with dozens of genetic diseases and some have appalling lives suffering abnormal conditions.
Jason, Devon says...
11:07pm Thu 1 May 08
Sal wrote:I am sorry Sal I do not buy it, every dog attack whether it be a collie or anything else that is reported in the news almost always where the victim has been hospitalised, especially where children are concerned the health proffessionals are duty bound to contact the police and any other local authority whom in turn usually contact the press.
Kim wrote:Alot of the recent attacks could have been avoided,the dogs were left with children on their own,so who's at fault,the dogs,the child,of course not the parents are.
\"Posted by: Sal, Gloucestershire on 6:12pm today You can\'t blame a whole breed for the actions of one or two dogs or that of their owners.\" Attacks like this are happening all to frequently and it\'s usually dogs such as Staffies and Rotts that are nearly always responsible, ever so occasionally its down to other breeds also but not very often do those other breeds kill!
Very Very Rarely does a full pedigree SBT attack a child.
There are dog attacks by other breeds,most commonly Labs,collies etc...yet these are never reported in the media the way in which Rotti,bullbreed attacks are Why?
Because it does not get the impact of a bullbreed or rotti!
We need to get to the root of the problem irrsponsible owners,the breed is not important,by imposing a breed ban you are stating that all dogs of that breed are dangerous which is simply not true.
More people/children are killed
each year in rta's than by dogs,should we ban all cars or deal with the driver?
Where are the figures that state such breeds are not pure breeds? Infact how do you know? Are you there to witness such attacks when they take place?
We are not debating how many children or people are killed in road traffic accidents each year, we are debating people being mauled, killed, and the loss of other animal lives where the perpetrators are dogs that have been allowed to run amuck for whatever reasons.
In most cases the dogs have been family dogs, there is no getting away from that.
Sal, gloucestershire says...
10:42pm Thu 1 May 08
Kim wrote:Alot of the recent attacks could have been avoided,the dogs were left with children on their own,so who's at fault,the dogs,the child,of course not the parents are.
\"Posted by: Sal, Gloucestershire on 6:12pm today You can\'t blame a whole breed for the actions of one or two dogs or that of their owners.\" Attacks like this are happening all to frequently and it\'s usually dogs such as Staffies and Rotts that are nearly always responsible, ever so occasionally its down to other breeds also but not very often do those other breeds kill!
Very Very Rarely does a full pedigree SBT attack a child.
There are dog attacks by other breeds,most commonly Labs,collies etc...yet these are never reported in the media the way in which Rotti,bullbreed attacks are Why?
Because it does not get the impact of a bullbreed or rotti!
We need to get to the root of the problem irrsponsible owners,the breed is not important,by imposing a breed ban you are stating that all dogs of that breed are dangerous which is simply not true.
More people/children are killed
each year in rta's than by dogs,should we ban all cars or deal with the driver?
Jason, Devon says...
10:16pm Thu 1 May 08
DK wrote:How grown up of you.
Its people like yourself with your negative vibes who have never owned nor had the pleasure of being in the company of such an amazing breed that slate them for what they are not , Honestly if you think i was being aggressive you really need to get out more hun, I am actually a very nice person , It just infurates the hell out of me when stupid people buy a breed they know nothing about , AND MAKE THEM PROTECTIVE to boost there own ego that gives this wonderful breed a bad name , I suggest you spend time in the company of a well trained rottie owned by a responsible person and then you will see what a wonderful gentle breed they are http://i179.photobuc
ket.com/albums/w311/
jukelee/Donkey.jpg a LITTLE iRISH GESTURE FOR YA HUN , lIGHTEN UP EH
It is wrong to come to these kind of places where people like me and other members of the public post comments that either support restrictions on owning certain breeds or the complete banning of them. It is also very, very wrong to make assumptions on the kind of people that pass opinions here without any firsthand knowledge of what they are actually like in person without meeting them, then making the very dangerous assumption on their life experiences just like you have and shot yourself badly in the foot. If you cannot enter a debate without swearing or trying to use graphic images like the one you tried to post here at someone, your argument has already been lost and it really says a lot about you as a person and the kind of morals you have, whether it is meant in a joking kind of way or not, it is disrespectful to the person it is intented for and other decent people that are reading and posting on this debate.
If people cannot debate in an adult manner how is there ever going to be a compromise between yourselves as dog owners and the general public, the general public that see these kind of events unfold almost everyday that are calling for such restrictions and bans, which of corse may be wrong in all your eyes, but what about the feelings of everyone else who reel with discust that someone, or, something else has been killed and the culprit that did it was a dog, or dogs as in this case.
You cannot defend the actions of a dog, just like you cannot defend the actions of a person who does such things. You cannot have it both ways, dogs have feelings and experience pain just like people, if dogs were not humanized by silly people and treated as they should be, dogs. We probably would not be having these kind of problems.
animal lover, bacup says...
10:00pm Thu 1 May 08
Walter Halow wrote:What a pompous comment! just because vanessa wrote 'it' you critisise her at this awful time, she and her daughter adored that poor little pony. as for the dogs, its a nature nurture thing, the more responsible and more in charge the owner the better behaved, tamer and safer the dog, its not all the dogs its a minority who revert to nature, and all breeds, bit like some kids go psycho such as herbert and harris. Its not fair to demonise all teenage CHAVS and its not fair to demonise all rotties.
If that is a geniune post, Vanessa, I'm a bit disturbed you would class your horse as an "it". As a horse owner, that does not sit well with me at all!
But these dogs deserved to be shot and their owners made to pay for this tragedy.
RIP little pony.x
Kim, Wales says...
9:12pm Thu 1 May 08
"Posted by: Sal, Gloucestershire on 6:12pm today You can't blame a whole breed for the actions of one or two dogs or that of their owners."
Attacks like this are happening all to frequently and it's usually dogs such as Staffies and Rotts that are nearly always responsible, ever so occasionally its down to other breeds also but not very often do those other breeds kill!
Attacks like this are happening all to frequently and it's usually dogs such as Staffies and Rotts that are nearly always responsible, ever so occasionally its down to other breeds also but not very often do those other breeds kill!
Sal, Gloucestershire says...
6:12pm Thu 1 May 08
I honestly can't believe some of the comments on this board.We already have BSL active and in place in the UK,so those of you that are calling for breed bans and restrictions on certain breeds please tell me how the DDA/BSL will actually protect the public?It has failed to protect children and adults alike in the last 16 yrs.
I am the owner of two SBT's,we have 3 children that have grew up with this breed,staffords are a very people/children orientated breed.They are one of two breeds to have this written into the breed standard,Tradionally of indomitable courage and tenacity.Highly intelligent and affectionate,especia
lly with children.
You can't blame a whole breed for the actions of one or two dogs or that of their owners.
I am the owner of two SBT's,we have 3 children that have grew up with this breed,staffords are a very people/children orientated breed.They are one of two breeds to have this written into the breed standard,Tradionally of indomitable courage and tenacity.Highly intelligent and affectionate,especia
lly with children.
You can't blame a whole breed for the actions of one or two dogs or that of their owners.
shelley, lancashire says...
2:57pm Thu 1 May 08
it seems that the topic has been forgotten here. this is about another attack by a dangerous dog. may i remind you all that this isnt the first time and wont be the last.the little girl that got killed by the staff. a baby by 2 rottweillers on a pub roof and the attacks go on. it is also so strange that the same breeds keep coming up. rottweiller pit bull staffs. dont you think it is time to do something about it. yes i know people are going to reply about how nice there dog is but im not talking about YOUR dog am i. im talking about the dogs that people buy for status. they neglect or train to look intimidating. when will all this stop. not one dog or animal is born nasty it is the treatment it endures that it learns from. anything is cappable to bite but you also forget that the breeds as mentioned above are hunters there instinct is to hunt so get control or get rid.
i have a dog myself the most loving border collie cross but even i wouldnt leave her unnattented with another animal or child.
i have a dog myself the most loving border collie cross but even i wouldnt leave her unnattented with another animal or child.
Kim, Wales says...
12:56pm Thu 1 May 08
DK wrote:A little information for all that choose to come on here and slag me off. I am now a woman in my late twenties, 13 years ago I was attacked by a Rottweiler that was owned by my auntie, nicest most placid dog you could ever wish to meet, it turned on my Auntie whilst she was placing a water bowl down after giving the dog a refill. Dragged her round the kitchen like a rag doll, bit so hard down into her shoulder it broke and cracked bones, she needed over 150 stitches to repair the wound. Me being young, foolish and silly tried to get the dog off her, I am now minus one of my arms which had to be amputated from the elbow, the surgeons couldn't save it. Now this was a family dog, no medical problems, seemed the perfect family pet could be trusted with children and well behaved. But turned for no reason.
Its people like yourself with your negative vibes who have never owned nor had the pleasure of being in the company of such an amazing breed that slate them for what they are not , Honestly if you think i was being aggressive you really need to get out more hun, I am actually a very nice person , It just infurates the hell out of me when stupid people buy a breed they know nothing about , AND MAKE THEM PROTECTIVE to boost there own ego that gives this wonderful breed a bad name , I suggest you spend time in the company of a well trained rottie owned by a responsible person and then you will see what a wonderful gentle breed they are http://i179.photobuc
ket.com/albums/w311/
jukelee/Donkey.jpg a LITTLE iRISH GESTURE FOR YA HUN , lIGHTEN UP EH
So those that preach to me that I have no idea of what breeds like this are capable of, I actually do. I will look forward to somesort of restriction being placed on them being owned as family pets.
I have no desire to spend anymore time in the company of a Rottweiler I was lucky enough to escape with my life the first time around.
DK, says...
12:34pm Thu 1 May 08
Its people like yourself with your negative vibes who have never owned nor had the pleasure of being in the company of such an amazing breed that slate them for what they are not , Honestly if you think i was being aggressive you really need to get out more hun, I am actually a very nice person , It just infurates the hell out of me when stupid people buy a breed they know nothing about , AND MAKE THEM PROTECTIVE to boost there own ego that gives this wonderful breed a bad name , I suggest you spend time in the company of a well trained rottie owned by a responsible person and then you will see what a wonderful gentle breed they are http://i179.photobuc
ket.com/albums/w311/
jukelee/Donkey.jpg a LITTLE iRISH GESTURE FOR YA HUN , lIGHTEN UP EH
ket.com/albums/w311/
jukelee/Donkey.jpg a LITTLE iRISH GESTURE FOR YA HUN , lIGHTEN UP EH
TONI, uk says...
12:18pm Thu 1 May 08
Everyone with one once of intellegence is entilted to own a dog, thats were it should stop.
Not everyone has that intellegence, and anyone fighting to ban all dog's so obviously don't have a dog hence the above statement.
All dog's are not the same some buite some don't.
All men are not the same so are nasty some are not.
shall we ban them also, and the women who are nasty.
Once again catch youre selves on not everyone treats the dog's so badly they end up nasty, not every dog is nasty, not every dog should be put to sleep becuse of stupid owner's.If the goverment bought in better law's to stop just anyone having a dog the uppy farmers would be out of buisness, the dog attacks would go down and you lot could moan about something else.
Not everyone has that intellegence, and anyone fighting to ban all dog's so obviously don't have a dog hence the above statement.
All dog's are not the same some buite some don't.
All men are not the same so are nasty some are not.
shall we ban them also, and the women who are nasty.
Once again catch youre selves on not everyone treats the dog's so badly they end up nasty, not every dog is nasty, not every dog should be put to sleep becuse of stupid owner's.If the goverment bought in better law's to stop just anyone having a dog the uppy farmers would be out of buisness, the dog attacks would go down and you lot could moan about something else.
Kim, Wales says...
11:48am Thu 1 May 08
DK wrote:The only folk that should be banned from keeping animals are those who come on here acting aggressively, if you act like this on the web, I'd hate to think what you were all like when out in public with your dogs!
Kim wrote:I dont own a rottie , But I also agree they are a wonderful frindly loving breed in the right hands , But obviously they would not be in your hands dear as you imo are an iggnorant moron and you should be banned , as you are a complete ****
I note most of the people that have come on to defend theses dogs are the people that own these breeds, or, other powerful breeds like them, when animals do such things like this it really comes as no surprise to me when their very owners are on the attack! Classic case as the wrong sort getting their hands on the, the dogs do not stand a chance really with owners like them. Breeds such as these should be banned from being owned, I wholeheartedly agree it is happening all too often, kids being hurt or much more seriously killed, other dogs being hurt and killed and now a horse being killed, where will this all end before people start to take responsibility for what they allow to live in their homes. Dogs such as these should be restricted to those that work them such as the police, after all said and done they are working dogs, not pet dogs and owners that come on here defending such dogs need one serious shake up!
Lynn, Northampton says...
11:26pm Wed 30 Apr 08
I posted a comment on here the other night and read most of the previous posts with interest. However, now people just seem to be slagging each other off and it's actually quite boring. it seems that many of you have forgotten the topic!
oh, and i'll stick with a cat me thinks! the only he trouble he seems to cause is crapping in other peoples gardens... (feel free to discuss! lol)
oh, and i'll stick with a cat me thinks! the only he trouble he seems to cause is crapping in other peoples gardens... (feel free to discuss! lol)
me, leeds says...
11:00pm Wed 30 Apr 08
My heart goes out to the horse owners. But I am absolutely gobsmacked by the horrible disgusting remarks that have been made on here. You belong in the school playground or do you work for the media? I could say which dogs bite the most but i'm not going to put certain breeds down coz they are not all the same. Have you ever asked yourselves why the dogs that hit the headlines are either guard dogs, compound dogs, yard dogs etc oh and another question i'm presuming you've all owned rotties to know so much about them or have you owned a dog at all?
Kel, Newcastle says...
10:23pm Wed 30 Apr 08
Lee wrote:Very well said, i'd happily go with licencing all of my dogs and they are all microchipped anyway.
I am astounded by some of the comments on here. Sounds like the media is doing its job and completely brainwashing the general public. My dogs in the last 6 months have been attacked by the following breeds, Lurcher, Jack Russell, Cocker Spaniel, Boxer and border collie, Alaskan Malamute and a Black Lab(which went for my 13 week old puppy. And my dogs should be banned because they are Rotts? At a show recently a 6 month old boxer came out of the ring and a Dalmation launched at it. In Sheffield recently a young boy was attacked by a corgi and gained miniscule press. Any Breed can attack. Dog Licensing should be brought in for ALL breeds. Why should I be made to pay for a license and other people down the street with their vicious Yorkie\'s JR\'s and Cockers not be? People really need to get their own opinion and stop letting the media give them it. Recently a headline stated a boy was attacked by a bull mastiff yet in the notes it was actually said to be a black and white cross terrier. When that man was wlking his rott down the street and was reported to have been attacked by his dog the media couldnt even bring themselves to print an apology or rebuttle when the post mortem found he died of natural causes and the dog indeed was trying to help his owner. But that dog was shot dead by the police all for trying to help. The police must be operating on a shoot first and ask questions later policy and it is all down to the media vilifying the breed and in alot of cases reporting fiction. Get a grip of reality people
Was very sad about the man who's rottie was trying to help him and shot for his trouble as recently certain papers have dug up this old news (after this incident) and despite the post mortem results proving the truth, were still trying portray that the rottie had attacked his owner.
If anything, newspapers and TVs should be banned and then people would need to step into the real world an think for themselves, which evidently, is too much for some.
Anne-Marie, Cumbria says...
10:07pm Wed 30 Apr 08
I am interested that none of the anti-dog/rottweiler brigade have had no comeback to my earlier post. Hmmm, is it because you cannot argue against the facts I've pointed out?
By the way, to the lady who said there have been no Golden Retriever or Cocker Spaniel attacks ever reported. You are quite wrong on that score, in fact Cocker Spaniels can get something called Rage Syndrome whereby they randomly attack out fo the blue, it is a well known fact that the red varieties can suffer from it. Golden Retrievers often bite as do labradors, it is a common misconception that these breeds are always docile and there have been several incidents of them both biting. Despite this they are commonly thought of as great family dogs.
Facts are some Rotts bite and attack, as do many, many other dogs. But when it is a Rottie or other guarding breed it makes for a much more sensationalist read and makes people believe they are all bad, as sadly very clearly illustrated on this thread.
By the way, to the lady who said there have been no Golden Retriever or Cocker Spaniel attacks ever reported. You are quite wrong on that score, in fact Cocker Spaniels can get something called Rage Syndrome whereby they randomly attack out fo the blue, it is a well known fact that the red varieties can suffer from it. Golden Retrievers often bite as do labradors, it is a common misconception that these breeds are always docile and there have been several incidents of them both biting. Despite this they are commonly thought of as great family dogs.
Facts are some Rotts bite and attack, as do many, many other dogs. But when it is a Rottie or other guarding breed it makes for a much more sensationalist read and makes people believe they are all bad, as sadly very clearly illustrated on this thread.
Darren, London says...
9:01pm Wed 30 Apr 08
I find dog owners to be some of the worst elements of our society. There is only one thing for it, remove dogs from our land and these fools who use them as surrogate children and status symbals will wake up.
DK, uk says...
7:50pm Wed 30 Apr 08
Kim wrote:I dont own a rottie , But I also agree they are a wonderful frindly loving breed in the right hands , But obviously they would not be in your hands dear as you imo are an iggnorant moron and you should be banned , as you are a complete ****
I note most of the people that have come on to defend theses dogs are the people that own these breeds, or, other powerful breeds like them, when animals do such things like this it really comes as no surprise to me when their very owners are on the attack! Classic case as the wrong sort getting their hands on the, the dogs do not stand a chance really with owners like them. Breeds such as these should be banned from being owned, I wholeheartedly agree it is happening all too often, kids being hurt or much more seriously killed, other dogs being hurt and killed and now a horse being killed, where will this all end before people start to take responsibility for what they allow to live in their homes. Dogs such as these should be restricted to those that work them such as the police, after all said and done they are working dogs, not pet dogs and owners that come on here defending such dogs need one serious shake up!
Kirstie Shiba, Bristol says...
5:00pm Wed 30 Apr 08
lauren wrote:I agree totally with this comment. When was the last time you saw the local drug dealer or hardman walking down the street with a dalmation on the end of a leed. You don't. They choose strong powerful breeds and neglect them and beat them etc. appalling. I think we should go back to the breeders of the pups who make there money selling these dogs to the scum. I also agree that all puppies should be microchipped at a few weeks old by law. Then we can go back and blame the owners and breeders in one fowl swoop. As a responsible dog owner (not rottweilers) i would happily agree to pass a test so that i could own a large dog in the future. My dogs are all microchipped anyway. But it is the scum in society who just wouldn't bother and get away with it. If we can trace the owners/breeders of these dogs and prosecute, i guarantee that it would stop all the misfits in our society breeding bad dogs for a quick buck!
your average labrador, poodle or any other dog has the potential to do exactly this- in the wrong hands. the only trouble with rotties as a breed is that they tend attract the wrong type of owner. Try being locked outside in the garden all day and your only attention being yelled at, you\'d snap pretty soon- my neighbors rottweiler, after four years of that treatment, has not!
lauren, says...
4:29pm Wed 30 Apr 08
your average labrador, poodle or any other dog has the potential to do exactly this- in the wrong hands. the only trouble with rotties as a breed is that they tend attract the wrong type of owner. Try being locked outside in the garden all day and your only attention being yelled at, you'd snap pretty soon- my neighbors rottweiler, after four years of that treatment, has not!
Tom, God if this doesnt stop the comments nothing will says...
3:28pm Wed 30 Apr 08
This bloke takes his Rottweiler to the vet and says to him, "My dog's
cross-eyed. Is there anything you can do for him?"
"Well," say the vet, "Let's have a look at him."
So he picks the dog up and has a good look at its eyes. After pausing
for a while to think, the vet says, "I'm going to have to put him
down."
"Just because he's cross-eyed?" exclaims the bloke.
"No," replies the vet, "Because he's heavy."
cross-eyed. Is there anything you can do for him?"
"Well," say the vet, "Let's have a look at him."
So he picks the dog up and has a good look at its eyes. After pausing
for a while to think, the vet says, "I'm going to have to put him
down."
"Just because he's cross-eyed?" exclaims the bloke.
"No," replies the vet, "Because he's heavy."
Tom, Anywhere says...
3:26pm Wed 30 Apr 08
As horses say to one another.
Any friend of
yours is a palomino
Any friend of
yours is a palomino
Peter, Wales says...
2:51pm Wed 30 Apr 08
Ive heard it was a pantomime horse that got it in the neck.
Jason, Devon says...
2:51pm Wed 30 Apr 08
I refuse to believe every case reported of where a dog attacks is down to human error, I believe *some* dogs are just born bad, just like some owners are bad owners now please take note that I have not mentioned the Rottweiler anywhere within the above.
Some breeds ought to be judged on the basis of what they were bred for, what purpose they serve and whether or not people should own them as pets or be responsible enough to do so, sort of like a grading system. People interested in such breeds should be forced to apply for a licence and then have to sit an ownership test to see whether or not they are capable of handling and owning breeds that are powerful. If they happen to fail the ownership test, the application for a licence to own such a breed gets turned down, simple.
Some breeds ought to be judged on the basis of what they were bred for, what purpose they serve and whether or not people should own them as pets or be responsible enough to do so, sort of like a grading system. People interested in such breeds should be forced to apply for a licence and then have to sit an ownership test to see whether or not they are capable of handling and owning breeds that are powerful. If they happen to fail the ownership test, the application for a licence to own such a breed gets turned down, simple.
Lynn, Essex says...
2:34pm Wed 30 Apr 08
John wrote:The last place I live is cloud cuckoo land all I am saying is the papers have not yet said the dogs were definately the cause.
Lynn your living in cloud chooko land love, quote the pony could have died of something else. The Dogs savaged it to dead I heard them
I take offence at your comment. Please don't call me love.I am not your love.
Lee, Durham says...
1:41pm Wed 30 Apr 08
I am astounded by some of the comments on here. Sounds like the media is doing its job and completely brainwashing the general public. My dogs in the last 6 months have been attacked by the following breeds, Lurcher, Jack Russell, Cocker Spaniel, Boxer and border collie, Alaskan Malamute and a Black Lab(which went for my 13 week old puppy. And my dogs should be banned because they are Rotts? At a show recently a 6 month old boxer came out of the ring and a Dalmation launched at it. In Sheffield recently a young boy was attacked by a corgi and gained miniscule press. Any Breed can attack. Dog Licensing should be brought in for ALL breeds. Why should I be made to pay for a license and other people down the street with their vicious Yorkie's JR's and Cockers not be? People really need to get their own opinion and stop letting the media give them it. Recently a headline stated a boy was attacked by a bull mastiff yet in the notes it was actually said to be a black and white cross terrier. When that man was wlking his rott down the street and was reported to have been attacked by his dog the media couldnt even bring themselves to print an apology or rebuttle when the post mortem found he died of natural causes and the dog indeed was trying to help his owner. But that dog was shot dead by the police all for trying to help. The police must be operating on a shoot first and ask questions later policy and it is all down to the media vilifying the breed and in alot of cases reporting fiction. Get a grip of reality people
Lorna, says...
1:17pm Wed 30 Apr 08
As I have said, resposible dog owners have come up with solutions but knowone seems to want to know. Why should a whole breed be made to suffer because of human flaws. Again I do not read about these attacks everyday, when I do they are tragic. But behind every story is a human at fault and this is the point I wanted to make. Do you really believe banning is the way forward?
Jason, Devon says...
1:07pm Wed 30 Apr 08
As far as I was aware this is not a discussion about murderous acts being reported on the news, it is about dogs being dangerously out of control.
Lorna, says...
12:52pm Wed 30 Apr 08
Jason wrote:If you had read more of the comments, you would have seen that it is the resposible dog owners who are asking for more legislation to stop things like this happening. I don't read about these attacks everyday, I read about children being shot and stabbed, fathers being kicked to death and heads being found on beaches......if you want to vent, do it in the right direction.
I have read a few of the comments, got really fed up after a while, yet it seems the ones that are on the attack are the dog owners here. The general Joe Public do not need eductating on such attacks especially when they have been done with such ferocity, grown ups being hurt and killed, children being hurt and killed, now we have defenceless animals being killed and with such savagery. We do not need to read what is put in black and white, we see it being reported everyday on the news, whether it is being reported as right or wrong, attacks like these are reported moreorless everyday. What is there to educate? Other than in normal Joe Public\'s eyes these dogs have no place in today\'s society, if it is a case of them being bred by backyard breeders, puppy farmers, or simply the wrong sort getting their hands on such dogs, then they should be banned or retricted from being owned, to end this madness. How many more people, children or other animals have got to pay the price before someone steps in and actually does something, something that is workable and effective? Things have gone much too far, there are too many people being reported as being hurt or much worse killed in attacks like these and although I agree it would seem harsh on the dogs that have been reared with the utmost care and responsibility, these kind of attacks are getting much too frequent for my liking and I would say for the majority of others who witness such events being reported on the news. It is high time something was put forward to the government to not only help stamp out attacks like these, but to eradicate and stop those from undesirable backgrounds getting hold of these kinds of breeds that are used as threats or weapons.
Lorna, says...
12:39pm Wed 30 Apr 08
Tim wrote:Hi Ti m, do you call this sensible?
God all dog owners are stupid and stuck in the Iam right attitude. Your all so selfish thats why our parks are full of sh*t and the barking annoys so many. Will you all just grow up and be less selfish. You poor deluded people.
More to the point, does your mum know that you are playing with her computer?
Jason, Devon says...
12:38pm Wed 30 Apr 08
I have read a few of the comments, got really fed up after a while, yet it seems the ones that are on the attack are the dog owners here.
The general Joe Public do not need eductating on such attacks especially when they have been done with such ferocity, grown ups being hurt and killed, children being hurt and killed, now we have defenceless animals being killed and with such savagery.
We do not need to read what is put in black and white, we see it being reported everyday on the news, whether it is being reported as right or wrong, attacks like these are reported moreorless everyday.
What is there to educate? Other than in normal Joe Public's eyes these dogs have no place in today's society, if it is a case of them being bred by backyard breeders, puppy farmers, or simply the wrong sort getting their hands on such dogs, then they should be banned or retricted from being owned, to end this madness.
How many more people, children or other animals have got to pay the price before someone steps in and actually does something, something that is workable and effective?
Things have gone much too far, there are too many people being reported as being hurt or much worse killed in attacks like these and although I agree it would seem harsh on the dogs that have been reared with the utmost care and responsibility, these kind of attacks are getting much too frequent for my liking and I would say for the majority of others who witness such events being reported on the news.
It is high time something was put forward to the government to not only help stamp out attacks like these, but to eradicate and stop those from undesirable backgrounds getting hold of these kinds of breeds that are used as threats or weapons.
The general Joe Public do not need eductating on such attacks especially when they have been done with such ferocity, grown ups being hurt and killed, children being hurt and killed, now we have defenceless animals being killed and with such savagery.
We do not need to read what is put in black and white, we see it being reported everyday on the news, whether it is being reported as right or wrong, attacks like these are reported moreorless everyday.
What is there to educate? Other than in normal Joe Public's eyes these dogs have no place in today's society, if it is a case of them being bred by backyard breeders, puppy farmers, or simply the wrong sort getting their hands on such dogs, then they should be banned or retricted from being owned, to end this madness.
How many more people, children or other animals have got to pay the price before someone steps in and actually does something, something that is workable and effective?
Things have gone much too far, there are too many people being reported as being hurt or much worse killed in attacks like these and although I agree it would seem harsh on the dogs that have been reared with the utmost care and responsibility, these kind of attacks are getting much too frequent for my liking and I would say for the majority of others who witness such events being reported on the news.
It is high time something was put forward to the government to not only help stamp out attacks like these, but to eradicate and stop those from undesirable backgrounds getting hold of these kinds of breeds that are used as threats or weapons.
Tim, Blackburn says...
12:17pm Wed 30 Apr 08
This is what Jackie wrote earlier" think you'll find you do have to justify your wild comments. Come on, what are you scared of? Have a proper debate with intelligent people or is that too much for your feeble mind to comprehend? I for one am finished with you. It's people like you who throw wild accusations around that will send this country down the pan. Now go and play nicely with your toys in a corner." Iam detecting Jackie that you are unable to make your point sensible and what is all this Iam done with you now, Do you cast people aside because you cannot put your point across?
Jackie, Redcar says...
11:27am Wed 30 Apr 08
Tim wrote:My point has been made perfectly well thank you and as I recall it was you who attacked me. I'm done with you now mate. You have your blinkered opinions so off you go and taunt someone else. You're the one who has made yourself look silly here not me.
Jackie its not a spell bee on here you know. Also can you not put your point across with out attaching me such as Alex did. You may well get your point across better.
Tim, Blackburn says...
11:13am Wed 30 Apr 08
Jackie its not a spell bee on here you know. Also can you not put your point across with out attaching me such as Alex did. You may well get your point across better.
alex, preston says...
11:02am Wed 30 Apr 08
Tim wrote:
Also Alex I feel disgusted that people have hurled abuse at you, there is no need for that. Forums like this are
lynne, glos,uk says...
7:28pm Sun 25 May 08
deload(all the nicknames people affectionately gave you are your legacy sweetheart)