Haslingden student takes fuel campaign to Commons (From Lancashire Telegraph)

Kid, you've got your priorities mixed up.

""She called on the government to use carbon tax revenue to make UK households more energy-efficient.""

If the Government would scrap the useless carbon tax, household fuel bills would be lower.
The carbon tax is simply a money grab and home owners are responsible for thier own energy efficiency of thier properties.

But you would think a 'Fuel Poverty Champion' would know that.

Bucko

Carbon Tax is required as people do not cut their energy usage even though environmental pressure requests that they do. As we have seen today, the government is only willing to provide money for beneficial poverty reducing measures when it comes from 'under-spends', that is, where they don't have to find new money. The Carbon Tax helps provide revenue for the treasury on the basis that people will not cut fuel usage if they have the money to pay the bill. What Polly is campaigning for is the real life support of children that live in poverty, real poverty and fuel poverty, to help create a better life for them, their families and the future population. Your comments are unnecessary, out of touch and completely against the social supporting attitude that this young lady had adopted due to the lack of support and action through adults in the government. She deserves your congratulations for her altruistic attitude, not your mockery, but I wouldn't have thought you understand that.

Carbon tax is not necessary unless you believe in man made global warming, a silly theory that is falling further apart by the day.

If carbon tax was scrapped we could all have lower bills. That is a lot better than just giving a few people a discount.

As for poverty, that word has been distorted to fit any of the latest trendy agendas.

Real poverty means the inability to feed and clothe yourself or access clean water. The new definition of western poverty means to sacrifice a luxury to pay a bill.

I would certainly congratulate her if she campaigned for the right thing. Thef by taxes is not the right thing.

Bucko

Simply repeating your blog doesn't make an argument. 'If carbon tax was lowered we could all have lower bills'. Brilliant. Which economic theorist have you got that from - Homer Simpson?

If we took away all tax, bills would be lower. Unfortunately taxation is necessary to fund public sector resources. The fact the these resources may have been neglected by those who run them is not the issue here. Fortunately Britain only has a few thousand children that don't have access to food, dry clothes or clean water on a daily basis. A few thousand too many.

Your Conservative party mandated attitude falls a little short of the anarchic/socialistic minded reasoning I am sure you are wanting to create from your little blog and attacks on people, whatever age, attempting to do good by action. Polly isn't militant, she just has a decent fair minded attitude to help people less fortunate than herself.

She is campaigning for what she believes is right based on injustices in society. She has determined the money has to come from somewhere, unlike your thinking which is more schoolchild economics than Polly's.

Perhaps the NCB are using the thoughts of those of future to help create political pressure for action today. It is a powerful pressure group and one both parties will choose to have access to. Whichever party wheels the NCB out, they will be looking for fairness for children in the UK and wider world, a view that you have ignored in your feeble attempt to undermine a worthy teen and her determination to help less fortunate.

Perhaps less time attacking those who are active in pursuing change for the better, and more time supporting people who believe they can make a difference if they stand up to be counted may be the first step for you in your political rehabilitation.

Thanks but I don't need political rehabilitation. My views differ from hers and yours for the reasons I have stated. That is not an attack as you put it but my right to my own opinion.

"Simply repeating your blog doesn't make an argument."

I have made the same arguement on my blog. What is wrong with that? Do you want me to put a different opinion on every social media platform available to me or stick to my own opinon?

"'If carbon tax was lowered we could all have lower bills'. Brilliant. Which economic theorist have you got that from - Homer Simpson?"

It's simple maths. Check your energy bills. They incude a percentage for the carbon tax. If that went your bills would be lower. Whats not to understand about that?

"Unfortunately taxation is necessary to fund public sector resources."

Some tax, yes. We also fund the EU, foreign aid, wars, MPs expenses, quangos, fake charities etc. Not all tax is necessary and not all tax is right. The carbon tax in particular is based on the lie of AGW which makes it one of the worst. Finding a good thing to spend it on does not justify it.

"Fortunately Britain only has a few thousand children that don't have access to food, dry clothes or clean water on a daily basis."

No it doesn't. There may be a few feckless parents who are not very good at looking after thier spawn and there may be a few genuine cases. There is no real poverty in England, you need to look to third world countries for that. Simply saying people are in poverty and need handouts does not make it so, although its good business for taxpayer funded charities.

"Your Conservative party mandated attitude falls a little short of the anarchic/socialistic minded reasoning I am sure you are wanting to create from your little blog and attacks on people, whatever age,"

What does that even mean? Yes, well done for finding my blog, look how good you are. Your snide comments are more like attacks than me giving my opinion.

And what does her age matter? If she puts forward an opinion then I have the right to put forward a counter opinion if I disagree.

I doubt she understands the economics of the tax cycle at her age though. It's more likely she has been scripted by her backers in the fake charity she is fronting.

"She is campaigning for what she believes is right based on injustices in society."

Me too

"She has determined the money has to come from somewhere, unlike your thinking which is more schoolchild economics than Polly's."

Has she determined if the money even needs to be spent or the social consequences of taking it by force if it has to come from somewhere? Has she determined the rights and wrongs of forced taxation?

"Perhaps the NCB are using the thoughts of those of future to help create political pressure for action today. "

More like they are shaping the thoughts of the young to match thier own socialist agenda.

"Perhaps less time attacking those who are active in pursuing change for the better,"

I do not beleive she is pursuing change for the better. She is pursuing forced tax and spend which in turn creates a class of welfare dependant people. If I disagree with people trying to take my hard earned money to give to others then I will stand up and say so.

Calling my blog and accusing me of attacking people will not put a stop to that.

Bucko

What does her age matter, you ask, almost defensively and questioning my statement. Well, this whole dialog was started with 'Kid you have you priorities mixed up'. Obviously a statement attempting to put this young lady down due to her age. Your snide ending to your first comment - 'But you would think a 'Fuel Poverty Champion' would know that' is an attempt at sarcasm and was defended by me.

Of course all tax is forced. No-one voluntarily gives money that they don't have to, unless it is to worthwhile charities that are doing something the donator is firmly supportive of.

Are you saying that VAT shouldn't be charged, that Income Tax is wrong, that Road Tax should be scrapped simply because it takes your 'hard earned money' away? Benefits are paid to people who need them. Unfortunately some people abuse the system. Other people drive with no road tax, others short change the HMRC when it comes to paying their tax. "Let he who is without sin, cast the first stone".

How can Polly's argument create a welfare dependent state? Your arguments lose logic quite quickly. It is right that money comes from one place to pay another, otherwise we run out. Justifying where it came from is the job of the government and the treasury. Unfair taxation is rebelled against. Remember the Poll Tax protests? Would you have questioned the justification of protesting on the streets against that unfair tax preferring to tap away at a computer? I am pleased that Polly has decided to use her voice and campaign for something she believes in.

People do have different opinions, whether they be right ones or wrong ones, but your attempt to silence her view by posting your first reply was tantamount to bullying, that is why I reacted against your comments. You ask that your differing opinions are respected. There are ways you can respond to articles without dragging out your soapbox and choosing to believe that your legions of blog followers have the moral high ground.

And my comment about economic theorist Homer Simpson was irony. Look irony up. It may help your arguments in the future.

I don't think we are going to find any common ground here.

I am ok with low takes and assistance for people who genuinely need it. I am strongly against huge, many and varied taxes and a culture of welfare dependance and waste.

We do need tax for services as you say. Using tax to insulate someones house is not a genuine and necessary service.