'Speed sign blitz in Rossendale is a waste of cash'

A SCHEME to reduce speed in Rossendale with 20mph signs has been slammed by the borough’s council leader as a ‘waste of money’.

Coun Alyson Barnes believes Lancashire County Council has spent £300,000 on speed signs on short streets.

She said: “The signs are ruining the look of the place, particularly in the smaller villages.

“Every access point seems to have been blighted, even streets where you can only fit five or six cars and couldn’t dream of reaching 20mph.

“It’s a great example of wasted resources at a time when we haven’t got resources to waste.

“The project needs calming measures and proper enforcement to be worthwhile.

“People won't pay any attention to the signs and it hasn’t actually been proven that these zones lead to fewer accidents.”

Four phases of work are being rolled out by the county council.

Work in Helmshore, Rawtenstall North and South, and Bacup Central and East are already completed, while areas of Whitworth, Rawtenstall East, Bacup North and South West, Edenfield, Shawforth, Weir and Facit are still open for consultation.

The total cost of the scheme countywide is £9.2million.

Lancashire County Council said it was committed to encouraging safer streets by introducing 20mph speed limits in residential areas and outside schools by the end of 2013.

Its website said: “20mph areas create safer streets for children, older people and the disabled, pedestrians, cyclists and motorists.

“Once in place, the 20mph speed limits are legally enforceable by the police.

“We recognise that 20mph speed limit areas are a long-term plan and that changing drivers’ attitudes and behaviours may not happen instantly.”

Comments(10)

bluebouy says...
10:53am Mon 20 Aug 12

how much does it cost to replace them when they are vandalised?

Izanears says...
11:29am Mon 20 Aug 12

I cannot agree more. 20mph signs have appeared all over Pendle. It is total waste of money.

Hacked off too says...
12:05pm Mon 20 Aug 12

there is a great one in Bacup... 20mph on St James Street where the crossing and bus station is then when you get to St James Square you can do 30mph - but it is only 150yds long!

eastlancslad says...
12:18pm Mon 20 Aug 12

Same in Gt Harwood. It's a total waste of money, Just like the new traffic lights at Whalley Road/Hyndburn Road. All this is simply to show that various soft headed members of the council are doing something about a problem that does not really exist, (except in their doctored statistics).
Oh, of course, it actually won't cost anything! The fines gathered by the Saftey Partnership, (speed cameras hidden in vans), will be laundered and given back to the councils as improvement grants or similar.

brossen99 says...
4:38pm Mon 20 Aug 12

Just thinking about the latest LCC 5% reduction in KSI its hardly anything to trumpet given the current recession which will have significantly cut traffic levels also so to mark it down to 20 Zones would be extremely foolish when there are probably other more important factors like the potential growth in free bus passes for OAP's. Has anyone ever done any research into the impact of the take up of free bus passes on accident figures, or is it like the pollution generated by traffic calming or 20 Zones and the impact of serious asthma admissions to hospital, something the medical profession should have done in the 1990s when there was a better chance of finding an area to use as a control.

I was just speculating that if cars are not prepared to slow down for a person in the middle of the road with the potential to open an offside car door then there is not one chance in hell that they are going to take any notice whatsoever of a number printed on a tin disc. Perhaps some people are working on the " little Hitler " theory that in a 20 zone if you get splatted you will be more likely to get compensation, even in cases where it would have been your own stupid fault under the current 30 rules. Its simply not good enough perhaps unless you are a ten bob fat cat but everyone needs to remember that 20 Zones are a key factor in why car insurance premiums have gone up so much recently along with the Welfare Reform Bill effectively privatising long term disability benefits. And in any case if you always do the safe thing and look twice before you endanger yourself you will find that in the case of the few probably half blind people actually happy to keep to 20 the time you have to wait for stuff going past increases, plus traffic will bunch up and the road will turn into a funeral procession and it will take ages to cross.

It would appear that the 20 Zone in Clitheroe is almost completely ignored, the only time when someone sticks to it creates a traffic jam, you promised that Bus Routes would not be included when you started out on the current policy yet bus routes in Clitheroe are in the 20 Zones, needless to say the bus drivers ignore them anyway, was it Limp-Dump Clitheroe town council who ordered the plan to criminalise everyone any good a driving safely ?

20 Zones as a policy is bound to build up public resentment when applied to main routes, everybody hates politicians as it is so why give them further reason to resent authority which could be approaching a type of virtual Nazi occupation if anyone attempted to enforce said 20 Zones especially on key service roads. Perhaps its part of a wider trend over the past 25 years where local government pass laws which are specifically designed to fester hostility in the usually silent majority against The State with the subtle intent of promoting more privatisation of public services, the slaughter of our welfare state ?

Michael@ClitheroeSince58 says...
5:15pm Mon 20 Aug 12

Just drive at 50mph like the rest of us, make your own laws up because that's what some idiot liberal demoncrat seems to be doing in Clitheroe.

ste.g says...
8:00pm Mon 20 Aug 12

Once in place, the 20mph speed limits are legally enforceable by the police.

how?when was the minimum 30mph changed?

ste.g says...
8:14pm Mon 20 Aug 12

Once in place, the 20mph speed limits are legally enforceable by the police.

how?when was the minimum 30mph changed?

plankspanker says...
9:10pm Mon 20 Aug 12

maybe i'll buy myself a bugatti coz thats the only way i can get to 20mph n back to zero in 50 yd rough side streets!!!!!

fazedandconfused says...
1:07pm Tue 21 Aug 12

@plankspanker No need for a Bugatti. I reckon I could get to 40Mph at least in 50 yds. Just use my moorbike and stack a load of Lancs county councillors at the end to help me stop.

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