MASH scheme to slash cash by tackling East Lancashire problem families (From Lancashire Telegraph)

The damage these scrote families do can't just be measured in financial terms; they suck the life out of communities.

I am all for any scheme which improves peoples lives, health, environment etc etc etc. What I would also like to see is how successful in figures these schemes have been. We are repeatedly told by 'politicians' that they have been a huge success and well worth the millions that have been spent, but no one ever puts a figure on those who have lost weight, stopped smoking, given up drugs, taken up excercise or started to eat five portions a day.

Izanears wrote:
I am all for any scheme which improves peoples lives, health, environment etc etc etc. What I would also like to see is how successful in figures these schemes have been. We are repeatedly told by 'politicians' that they have been a huge success and well worth the millions that have been spent, but no one ever puts a figure on those who have lost weight, stopped smoking, given up drugs, taken up excercise or started to eat five portions a day.

The problem families are the Banksters robbing us for billions every which way they can.

Think they're getting the word tackling and exterminating mixed up.

Madari the snake charmer says:

The problem family are the Venkies, according to the Darwen lot!!!hahahahahahaha
ha!!

Two things would massively help here.

1) Give smack heads heroin on prescription. Those problem families where heroin has it's disgusting grip, then no longer see parents spending all day stealing, selling their bodies to get their fix - whatever desperate things they are willing to do, where their own children become a hinderence to their all emcompassing addiction (in many cases through neglection becoming victims to paedophiles). Methadone obviously doesn't cut the mustard for those addicts, because they still do these deprived things to get heroin instead.

Who cares if these people want to get off their nut all day on brown - it would save us billions and billions, and we wouldn't have to be sickened reading about pensioners / war heroes robbed by scum to pay for a fix.

Most importantly, if we truly want to end this cycle, we need to look out for the poor kids of these addicts, and just make their lives far easier. Heroin prescribing has overwhelmingly been proven to do that in studies. There is only the sensationalist tabloids with their poodle politicians preventing this.

It means hard core criminals aren't making billions off this dispicable trade as well. Win win.

2) Those problem families who act hard and cause mischief, intimidating poor innocent members of society. Hammer them with quite eye-watering levels of dedicated policing - intimidating them instead with a tidal wave of authority. We'd be able to afford it with the billions and billions we'd save from the problem smack heads.

If we legalised cannabis as well, then man, we'd have enough money to constantly circle Tornado jets over the top of the sink estates!

Jack Herer wrote:
Two things would massively help here.

1) Give smack heads heroin on prescription. Those problem families where heroin has it's disgusting grip, then no longer see parents spending all day stealing, selling their bodies to get their fix - whatever desperate things they are willing to do, where their own children become a hinderence to their all emcompassing addiction (in many cases through neglection becoming victims to paedophiles). Methadone obviously doesn't cut the mustard for those addicts, because they still do these deprived things to get heroin instead.

Who cares if these people want to get off their nut all day on brown - it would save us billions and billions, and we wouldn't have to be sickened reading about pensioners / war heroes robbed by scum to pay for a fix.

Most importantly, if we truly want to end this cycle, we need to look out for the poor kids of these addicts, and just make their lives far easier. Heroin prescribing has overwhelmingly been proven to do that in studies. There is only the sensationalist tabloids with their poodle politicians preventing this.

It means hard core criminals aren't making billions off this dispicable trade as well. Win win.

2) Those problem families who act hard and cause mischief, intimidating poor innocent members of society. Hammer them with quite eye-watering levels of dedicated policing - intimidating them instead with a tidal wave of authority. We'd be able to afford it with the billions and billions we'd save from the problem smack heads.

If we legalised cannabis as well, then man, we'd have enough money to constantly circle Tornado jets over the top of the sink estates!

Anybody who is caught taking or dealing in none prescription drugs should be beaten with a stick and locked up for ages.

Jack Herer wrote:
Two things would massively help here.

1) Give smack heads heroin on prescription. Those problem families where heroin has it's disgusting grip, then no longer see parents spending all day stealing, selling their bodies to get their fix - whatever desperate things they are willing to do, where their own children become a hinderence to their all emcompassing addiction (in many cases through neglection becoming victims to paedophiles). Methadone obviously doesn't cut the mustard for those addicts, because they still do these deprived things to get heroin instead.

Who cares if these people want to get off their nut all day on brown - it would save us billions and billions, and we wouldn't have to be sickened reading about pensioners / war heroes robbed by scum to pay for a fix.

Most importantly, if we truly want to end this cycle, we need to look out for the poor kids of these addicts, and just make their lives far easier. Heroin prescribing has overwhelmingly been proven to do that in studies. There is only the sensationalist tabloids with their poodle politicians preventing this.

It means hard core criminals aren't making billions off this dispicable trade as well. Win win.

2) Those problem families who act hard and cause mischief, intimidating poor innocent members of society. Hammer them with quite eye-watering levels of dedicated policing - intimidating them instead with a tidal wave of authority. We'd be able to afford it with the billions and billions we'd save from the problem smack heads.

If we legalised cannabis as well, then man, we'd have enough money to constantly circle Tornado jets over the top of the sink estates!

Jeez, you're on one tonight!

Another excellent comment.

living the end times in BB1 wrote:

Jack Herer wrote:
Two things would massively help here.

1) Give smack heads heroin on prescription. Those problem families where heroin has it's disgusting grip, then no longer see parents spending all day stealing, selling their bodies to get their fix - whatever desperate things they are willing to do, where their own children become a hinderence to their all emcompassing addiction (in many cases through neglection becoming victims to paedophiles). Methadone obviously doesn't cut the mustard for those addicts, because they still do these deprived things to get heroin instead.

Who cares if these people want to get off their nut all day on brown - it would save us billions and billions, and we wouldn't have to be sickened reading about pensioners / war heroes robbed by scum to pay for a fix.

Most importantly, if we truly want to end this cycle, we need to look out for the poor kids of these addicts, and just make their lives far easier. Heroin prescribing has overwhelmingly been proven to do that in studies. There is only the sensationalist tabloids with their poodle politicians preventing this.

It means hard core criminals aren't making billions off this dispicable trade as well. Win win.

2) Those problem families who act hard and cause mischief, intimidating poor innocent members of society. Hammer them with quite eye-watering levels of dedicated policing - intimidating them instead with a tidal wave of authority. We'd be able to afford it with the billions and billions we'd save from the problem smack heads.

If we legalised cannabis as well, then man, we'd have enough money to constantly circle Tornado jets over the top of the sink estates!

Anybody who is caught taking or dealing in none prescription drugs should be beaten with a stick and locked up for ages.

Wise words.

Who cares how much it costs to society. If paedophiles or violent thugs have to go uninvestigated and unpunished to divert our resources to stopping these drug fiends, so be it. We need to show where our priorities lie as a society and stopping people harming no-one and having fun with things like cannabis, are far more important than stopping monsters raping children.

You're hearing me aren't you "living the end times in BB1"? We need to lock up anyone taking non-prescription drugs, even if the prescription drugs are actually far more dangerous. Those druggies daring to just enjoy themselves safely, are causing far more harm than paedophiles or rapists. Aren't they? They must be if we are leaving the paedos to get the pot heads.

Quick question "living the end times in BB1"; what harm are cannabis users doing to anyone, and therefore why should we spend our already stretched resources stopping them?

Best case scenario for you; they are caught and locked up. Is it more expensive to society to have them working hard, minding their business and paying taxes? Or is it more expensive stopping them working, locking them up, and taking over their upkeep and supervision?

Why would we want to turn someone from being a hugely positive input to society to being a huge drain on resources, when they haven't actually harmed anyone?

How stupid would society be to do something so clearly detrimental to itself? How stupid are you "living the end times in BB1"?

Jack Herer wrote:
Two things would massively help here.

1) Give smack heads heroin on prescription. Those problem families where heroin has it's disgusting grip, then no longer see parents spending all day stealing, selling their bodies to get their fix - whatever desperate things they are willing to do, where their own children become a hinderence to their all emcompassing addiction (in many cases through neglection becoming victims to paedophiles). Methadone obviously doesn't cut the mustard for those addicts, because they still do these deprived things to get heroin instead.

Who cares if these people want to get off their nut all day on brown - it would save us billions and billions, and we wouldn't have to be sickened reading about pensioners / war heroes robbed by scum to pay for a fix.

Most importantly, if we truly want to end this cycle, we need to look out for the poor kids of these addicts, and just make their lives far easier. Heroin prescribing has overwhelmingly been proven to do that in studies. There is only the sensationalist tabloids with their poodle politicians preventing this.

It means hard core criminals aren't making billions off this dispicable trade as well. Win win.

2) Those problem families who act hard and cause mischief, intimidating poor innocent members of society. Hammer them with quite eye-watering levels of dedicated policing - intimidating them instead with a tidal wave of authority. We'd be able to afford it with the billions and billions we'd save from the problem smack heads.

If we legalised cannabis as well, then man, we'd have enough money to constantly circle Tornado jets over the top of the sink estates!

Another drug rant from a long time cannabis injector, lying there mindwiped and coming round covered in vomit before ranting endless drivel whilst preparing the next needle full of skunk weed. Pitiful how they try and justify there slumdog living wanting it legalised and provided on prescription for free. get a job and live in the real world with the rest of us instead of the one behind your eyelids.

Project leaders claim the benefit to the community, from preventative work, is between £30,000 and £230,000 for each family assisted.where do you spend £230,000 on a family? order my new car, my new house fully furnished in spain and the remainder in cash and you can be assured you will get no problems from me and my family, i promise.

Keep Darwen Green wrote:

Jack Herer wrote:
Two things would massively help here.

1) Give smack heads heroin on prescription. Those problem families where heroin has it's disgusting grip, then no longer see parents spending all day stealing, selling their bodies to get their fix - whatever desperate things they are willing to do, where their own children become a hinderence to their all emcompassing addiction (in many cases through neglection becoming victims to paedophiles). Methadone obviously doesn't cut the mustard for those addicts, because they still do these deprived things to get heroin instead.

Who cares if these people want to get off their nut all day on brown - it would save us billions and billions, and we wouldn't have to be sickened reading about pensioners / war heroes robbed by scum to pay for a fix.

Most importantly, if we truly want to end this cycle, we need to look out for the poor kids of these addicts, and just make their lives far easier. Heroin prescribing has overwhelmingly been proven to do that in studies. There is only the sensationalist tabloids with their poodle politicians preventing this.

It means hard core criminals aren't making billions off this dispicable trade as well. Win win.

2) Those problem families who act hard and cause mischief, intimidating poor innocent members of society. Hammer them with quite eye-watering levels of dedicated policing - intimidating them instead with a tidal wave of authority. We'd be able to afford it with the billions and billions we'd save from the problem smack heads.

If we legalised cannabis as well, then man, we'd have enough money to constantly circle Tornado jets over the top of the sink estates!

Another drug rant from a long time cannabis injector, lying there mindwiped and coming round covered in vomit before ranting endless drivel whilst preparing the next needle full of skunk weed. Pitiful how they try and justify there slumdog living wanting it legalised and provided on prescription for free. get a job and live in the real world with the rest of us instead of the one behind your eyelids.

Are you really that ignorant / stupid, or are you a wind up? I genuinely can't tell.

Cannabis injector / needle full of skunk week? How do you inject cannabis? No-one in the history of mankind has ever "injected" cannabis. You can't inject cannabis you total buffoon - it's scientifically not possible from it's make up. It would very likely kill you if you injected cannabis - in much the same way as something other harmless like olive oil or water would kill you if you injected it directly too. How would you go about injecting skunk weed - you do realise it's just the top of a plant don't you?

Cannabis users don't lie there mindwarped, covered in vomit - those are alcohol or heroin users. Have you ever seen a problem cannabis user in your entire life? You can't move in our town centres for drunks or smack heads causing misery, yet I've yet to see a problem cannabis user like this, anywhere ever. Cannabis users are generally hard working, tax paying, decent members of society. Alcoholics or smack heads rarely, if ever, are.

You certainly never read about cannabis users making a nuisance of themselves in the paper - doing stupid things because of the weed. Tanked up idiots make the paper every day though.

Cannabis users aren't a drain on resources. Statistically they are making themselves healthier, and therefore a less drain on society by smoking cannabis. Statistically, cannabis is so good for it's users, they live longer than non-users, by almost a couple of years on average.

No-one wants cannabis on prescription you clown - except for medical use, where it has been proven already far more effective and safe than existing prescription drugs. You shouldn't be able to get cannabis on prescription just because you want to get high.

Heroin on prescription - yes. But that's because that drug is so dispicable it makes sense to simply prescribe it. It would save society billions and billions for starters.

Like I say I'm guessing you must be a wind up - cannabis users don't do scumdog living, that's alcoholics / heroin addicts.

If you aren't a wind up, then wow, what a total and utter moron.

You have got to be a wind up though, surely. "Keep Darwen Green" - that username can't be real with those bizarrely ignorant views.

Jack Herer wrote:

living the end times in BB1 wrote:

Jack Herer wrote:
Two things would massively help here.

1) Give smack heads heroin on prescription. Those problem families where heroin has it's disgusting grip, then no longer see parents spending all day stealing, selling their bodies to get their fix - whatever desperate things they are willing to do, where their own children become a hinderence to their all emcompassing addiction (in many cases through neglection becoming victims to paedophiles). Methadone obviously doesn't cut the mustard for those addicts, because they still do these deprived things to get heroin instead.

Who cares if these people want to get off their nut all day on brown - it would save us billions and billions, and we wouldn't have to be sickened reading about pensioners / war heroes robbed by scum to pay for a fix.

Most importantly, if we truly want to end this cycle, we need to look out for the poor kids of these addicts, and just make their lives far easier. Heroin prescribing has overwhelmingly been proven to do that in studies. There is only the sensationalist tabloids with their poodle politicians preventing this.

It means hard core criminals aren't making billions off this dispicable trade as well. Win win.

2) Those problem families who act hard and cause mischief, intimidating poor innocent members of society. Hammer them with quite eye-watering levels of dedicated policing - intimidating them instead with a tidal wave of authority. We'd be able to afford it with the billions and billions we'd save from the problem smack heads.

If we legalised cannabis as well, then man, we'd have enough money to constantly circle Tornado jets over the top of the sink estates!

Anybody who is caught taking or dealing in none prescription drugs should be beaten with a stick and locked up for ages.

Wise words.

Who cares how much it costs to society. If paedophiles or violent thugs have to go uninvestigated and unpunished to divert our resources to stopping these drug fiends, so be it. We need to show where our priorities lie as a society and stopping people harming no-one and having fun with things like cannabis, are far more important than stopping monsters raping children.

You're hearing me aren't you "living the end times in BB1"? We need to lock up anyone taking non-prescription drugs, even if the prescription drugs are actually far more dangerous. Those druggies daring to just enjoy themselves safely, are causing far more harm than paedophiles or rapists. Aren't they? They must be if we are leaving the paedos to get the pot heads.

Quick question "living the end times in BB1"; what harm are cannabis users doing to anyone, and therefore why should we spend our already stretched resources stopping them?

Best case scenario for you; they are caught and locked up. Is it more expensive to society to have them working hard, minding their business and paying taxes? Or is it more expensive stopping them working, locking them up, and taking over their upkeep and supervision?

Why would we want to turn someone from being a hugely positive input to society to being a huge drain on resources, when they haven't actually harmed anyone?

How stupid would society be to do something so clearly detrimental to itself? How stupid are you "living the end times in BB1"?

You live in a total dream world probably induced by your obvious love of cannabis (as seen as that's all you ever whinge on about). Legalising it won't stop the majority of users from buying it from existing dealers. Why? Because if it is sold legally in whichever retail outlet then it will be subject to some form of tax in the same way that alcohol and tobacco already are. Dealers would be losing money left right and centre so what would they do? Cut their prices of course to keep the user coming to them for business. This would unsuitable cause massive enforcement issues for customs and excise would have to address the issue of people selling it illegally and thus not paying the duty on it. I don't know exactly how much but the cost of enforcing this would more than likely exceed the revenue the tax would generate on legitimate sales.
And more than likely because of the other aspects of criminality associated with Drug dealers such enforcement would probably require a multi agency approach involving the Police anyway, so there would be very little in the
way of savings there or freeing up of Police resources.

So instead of dreaming about what a wonderful world it would be if you could legally buy cannabis think about the logistics of it, ie the costs involved because regardless about what you think about it causing less harm to society than alcohol etc etc in this day and age only one thing seems to matter and that is how much things cost. And for that reason it will be a very very ling time until it is legalised if ever at all.








Its logistical issues such

Jack Herer wrote:

Keep Darwen Green wrote:

Jack Herer wrote:
Two things would massively help here.

1) Give smack heads heroin on prescription. Those problem families where heroin has it's disgusting grip, then no longer see parents spending all day stealing, selling their bodies to get their fix - whatever desperate things they are willing to do, where their own children become a hinderence to their all emcompassing addiction (in many cases through neglection becoming victims to paedophiles). Methadone obviously doesn't cut the mustard for those addicts, because they still do these deprived things to get heroin instead.

Who cares if these people want to get off their nut all day on brown - it would save us billions and billions, and we wouldn't have to be sickened reading about pensioners / war heroes robbed by scum to pay for a fix.

Most importantly, if we truly want to end this cycle, we need to look out for the poor kids of these addicts, and just make their lives far easier. Heroin prescribing has overwhelmingly been proven to do that in studies. There is only the sensationalist tabloids with their poodle politicians preventing this.

It means hard core criminals aren't making billions off this dispicable trade as well. Win win.

2) Those problem families who act hard and cause mischief, intimidating poor innocent members of society. Hammer them with quite eye-watering levels of dedicated policing - intimidating them instead with a tidal wave of authority. We'd be able to afford it with the billions and billions we'd save from the problem smack heads.

If we legalised cannabis as well, then man, we'd have enough money to constantly circle Tornado jets over the top of the sink estates!

Another drug rant from a long time cannabis injector, lying there mindwiped and coming round covered in vomit before ranting endless drivel whilst preparing the next needle full of skunk weed. Pitiful how they try and justify there slumdog living wanting it legalised and provided on prescription for free. get a job and live in the real world with the rest of us instead of the one behind your eyelids.

Are you really that ignorant / stupid, or are you a wind up? I genuinely can't tell.

Cannabis injector / needle full of skunk week? How do you inject cannabis? No-one in the history of mankind has ever "injected" cannabis. You can't inject cannabis you total buffoon - it's scientifically not possible from it's make up. It would very likely kill you if you injected cannabis - in much the same way as something other harmless like olive oil or water would kill you if you injected it directly too. How would you go about injecting skunk weed - you do realise it's just the top of a plant don't you?

Cannabis users don't lie there mindwarped, covered in vomit - those are alcohol or heroin users. Have you ever seen a problem cannabis user in your entire life? You can't move in our town centres for drunks or smack heads causing misery, yet I've yet to see a problem cannabis user like this, anywhere ever. Cannabis users are generally hard working, tax paying, decent members of society. Alcoholics or smack heads rarely, if ever, are.

You certainly never read about cannabis users making a nuisance of themselves in the paper - doing stupid things because of the weed. Tanked up idiots make the paper every day though.

Cannabis users aren't a drain on resources. Statistically they are making themselves healthier, and therefore a less drain on society by smoking cannabis. Statistically, cannabis is so good for it's users, they live longer than non-users, by almost a couple of years on average.

No-one wants cannabis on prescription you clown - except for medical use, where it has been proven already far more effective and safe than existing prescription drugs. You shouldn't be able to get cannabis on prescription just because you want to get high.

Heroin on prescription - yes. But that's because that drug is so dispicable it makes sense to simply prescribe it. It would save society billions and billions for starters.

Like I say I'm guessing you must be a wind up - cannabis users don't do scumdog living, that's alcoholics / heroin addicts.

If you aren't a wind up, then wow, what a total and utter moron.

You have got to be a wind up though, surely. "Keep Darwen Green" - that username can't be real with those bizarrely ignorant views.

I think you need to google the word "sarcasm".

Cha'mone MF wrote:

Jack Herer wrote:

Keep Darwen Green wrote:

Jack Herer wrote:
Two things would massively help here.

1) Give smack heads heroin on prescription. Those problem families where heroin has it's disgusting grip, then no longer see parents spending all day stealing, selling their bodies to get their fix - whatever desperate things they are willing to do, where their own children become a hinderence to their all emcompassing addiction (in many cases through neglection becoming victims to paedophiles). Methadone obviously doesn't cut the mustard for those addicts, because they still do these deprived things to get heroin instead.

Who cares if these people want to get off their nut all day on brown - it would save us billions and billions, and we wouldn't have to be sickened reading about pensioners / war heroes robbed by scum to pay for a fix.

Most importantly, if we truly want to end this cycle, we need to look out for the poor kids of these addicts, and just make their lives far easier. Heroin prescribing has overwhelmingly been proven to do that in studies. There is only the sensationalist tabloids with their poodle politicians preventing this.

It means hard core criminals aren't making billions off this dispicable trade as well. Win win.

2) Those problem families who act hard and cause mischief, intimidating poor innocent members of society. Hammer them with quite eye-watering levels of dedicated policing - intimidating them instead with a tidal wave of authority. We'd be able to afford it with the billions and billions we'd save from the problem smack heads.

If we legalised cannabis as well, then man, we'd have enough money to constantly circle Tornado jets over the top of the sink estates!

Another drug rant from a long time cannabis injector, lying there mindwiped and coming round covered in vomit before ranting endless drivel whilst preparing the next needle full of skunk weed. Pitiful how they try and justify there slumdog living wanting it legalised and provided on prescription for free. get a job and live in the real world with the rest of us instead of the one behind your eyelids.

Are you really that ignorant / stupid, or are you a wind up? I genuinely can't tell.

Cannabis injector / needle full of skunk week? How do you inject cannabis? No-one in the history of mankind has ever "injected" cannabis. You can't inject cannabis you total buffoon - it's scientifically not possible from it's make up. It would very likely kill you if you injected cannabis - in much the same way as something other harmless like olive oil or water would kill you if you injected it directly too. How would you go about injecting skunk weed - you do realise it's just the top of a plant don't you?

Cannabis users don't lie there mindwarped, covered in vomit - those are alcohol or heroin users. Have you ever seen a problem cannabis user in your entire life? You can't move in our town centres for drunks or smack heads causing misery, yet I've yet to see a problem cannabis user like this, anywhere ever. Cannabis users are generally hard working, tax paying, decent members of society. Alcoholics or smack heads rarely, if ever, are.

You certainly never read about cannabis users making a nuisance of themselves in the paper - doing stupid things because of the weed. Tanked up idiots make the paper every day though.

Cannabis users aren't a drain on resources. Statistically they are making themselves healthier, and therefore a less drain on society by smoking cannabis. Statistically, cannabis is so good for it's users, they live longer than non-users, by almost a couple of years on average.

No-one wants cannabis on prescription you clown - except for medical use, where it has been proven already far more effective and safe than existing prescription drugs. You shouldn't be able to get cannabis on prescription just because you want to get high.

Heroin on prescription - yes. But that's because that drug is so dispicable it makes sense to simply prescribe it. It would save society billions and billions for starters.

Like I say I'm guessing you must be a wind up - cannabis users don't do scumdog living, that's alcoholics / heroin addicts.

If you aren't a wind up, then wow, what a total and utter moron.

You have got to be a wind up though, surely. "Keep Darwen Green" - that username can't be real with those bizarrely ignorant views.

I think you need to google the word "sarcasm".

Thank the sweet lord jesus for that!

Cha'mone MF wrote:

Jack Herer wrote:

living the end times in BB1 wrote:

Jack Herer wrote:
Two things would massively help here.

1) Give smack heads heroin on prescription. Those problem families where heroin has it's disgusting grip, then no longer see parents spending all day stealing, selling their bodies to get their fix - whatever desperate things they are willing to do, where their own children become a hinderence to their all emcompassing addiction (in many cases through neglection becoming victims to paedophiles). Methadone obviously doesn't cut the mustard for those addicts, because they still do these deprived things to get heroin instead.

Who cares if these people want to get off their nut all day on brown - it would save us billions and billions, and we wouldn't have to be sickened reading about pensioners / war heroes robbed by scum to pay for a fix.

Most importantly, if we truly want to end this cycle, we need to look out for the poor kids of these addicts, and just make their lives far easier. Heroin prescribing has overwhelmingly been proven to do that in studies. There is only the sensationalist tabloids with their poodle politicians preventing this.

It means hard core criminals aren't making billions off this dispicable trade as well. Win win.

2) Those problem families who act hard and cause mischief, intimidating poor innocent members of society. Hammer them with quite eye-watering levels of dedicated policing - intimidating them instead with a tidal wave of authority. We'd be able to afford it with the billions and billions we'd save from the problem smack heads.

If we legalised cannabis as well, then man, we'd have enough money to constantly circle Tornado jets over the top of the sink estates!

Anybody who is caught taking or dealing in none prescription drugs should be beaten with a stick and locked up for ages.

Wise words.

Who cares how much it costs to society. If paedophiles or violent thugs have to go uninvestigated and unpunished to divert our resources to stopping these drug fiends, so be it. We need to show where our priorities lie as a society and stopping people harming no-one and having fun with things like cannabis, are far more important than stopping monsters raping children.

You're hearing me aren't you "living the end times in BB1"? We need to lock up anyone taking non-prescription drugs, even if the prescription drugs are actually far more dangerous. Those druggies daring to just enjoy themselves safely, are causing far more harm than paedophiles or rapists. Aren't they? They must be if we are leaving the paedos to get the pot heads.

Quick question "living the end times in BB1"; what harm are cannabis users doing to anyone, and therefore why should we spend our already stretched resources stopping them?

Best case scenario for you; they are caught and locked up. Is it more expensive to society to have them working hard, minding their business and paying taxes? Or is it more expensive stopping them working, locking them up, and taking over their upkeep and supervision?

Why would we want to turn someone from being a hugely positive input to society to being a huge drain on resources, when they haven't actually harmed anyone?

How stupid would society be to do something so clearly detrimental to itself? How stupid are you "living the end times in BB1"?

You live in a total dream world probably induced by your obvious love of cannabis (as seen as that's all you ever whinge on about). Legalising it won't stop the majority of users from buying it from existing dealers. Why? Because if it is sold legally in whichever retail outlet then it will be subject to some form of tax in the same way that alcohol and tobacco already are. Dealers would be losing money left right and centre so what would they do? Cut their prices of course to keep the user coming to them for business. This would unsuitable cause massive enforcement issues for customs and excise would have to address the issue of people selling it illegally and thus not paying the duty on it. I don't know exactly how much but the cost of enforcing this would more than likely exceed the revenue the tax would generate on legitimate sales.
And more than likely because of the other aspects of criminality associated with Drug dealers such enforcement would probably require a multi agency approach involving the Police anyway, so there would be very little in the
way of savings there or freeing up of Police resources.

So instead of dreaming about what a wonderful world it would be if you could legally buy cannabis think about the logistics of it, ie the costs involved because regardless about what you think about it causing less harm to society than alcohol etc etc in this day and age only one thing seems to matter and that is how much things cost. And for that reason it will be a very very ling time until it is legalised if ever at all.








Its logistical issues such

Ever heard of bargain booze? Oddbins? Do supermarkets sell alcohol? Off licenses?

Are all these outlets struggling because of competition from illegal alcohol suppliers? Does the alcohol industry make an overall loss to this country because of the cost of enforcement of illegal supply? No, never in a million years. Why not if what you are saying is true? You argument clearly makes no sense therefore.

People don't buy illegal alcohol - or at least very rarely. I've certainly never bought it in my life - and every single person I know buys their alcohol happily from shops which pay tax on it, and always have.

Why would that be any different with cannabis? Why would these same responsible people do completely the opposite when it came to cannabis?

All users of cannabis want controlled regulated supply - they want the full choice of effects from a full choice of strains. You don't get that from criminal supply - it's totally unregulated - who wants to take that? It causes a whole load of additional problems, which wouldn't happen were it legalised.

Ever heard of Amsterdam? You can buy cannabis legally there. Legal sales flourish. Why aren't the illegal dealers flourishing there if what you say is true, and the legal sellers falling by the wayside? Exactly the opposite of what you say will happen, happens there.

Ever heard of medical dispensaries in the US? Huge numbers of Americans get their medical cannabis from these official places. They are flourishing whilst illegal sales are hit. Exactly the opposite of what you say will happen, happens there.

Exactly the opposite of what you say will happen, has happened everywhere that cannabis laws have been relaxed in fact. There has been an absolutely zero increase of resources - health, police, social. People buy from the designated places, illegal dealers fall by the wayside.

Your worst case scaremongering argument is just another silly, flailing, unscientific durge fest that doesn't hold up to either logic, reason, or reality. Why should anyone believe your nonsense when it plainly and clearly isn't true?

You are simply parrotting tabloid scaremongering you total goon. The tabloids make huge amounts of money keeping cannabis illegal. It's a cash cow of a scare story. They aren't telling you the truth though - at all.

The downside is that society suffers greatly, because much needed resources are spent stopping people harming no-one, when they should be spent stopping real criminals with real victims.

Nice one therefore because you are the best friend to violent thugs and paedophiles. You keep them happy, because resources are diverted away from them - hugely. But you also keep hardcore criminals happy who make billions off illegal cannabis. Those people love you with all their heart. Your ignorance makes them rich and powerful.

Your blinkered ignorance is making the world a far worse place to live. Your blinkered ignorance helps a whole host of dispicable criminals immensely.

You total and utter moron.

Pure garbage....;the real danger comes in the corporate charitable trusts operating for the corporate state in such agendas with only one aim...... to interfere in family life, under statute of course.

Get savy with statutes and the law :

https://www.lifeinth
emix.info/british-la
w/british-law-green-
card/

living the end times in BB1 wrote:

Izanears wrote:
I am all for any scheme which improves peoples lives, health, environment etc etc etc. What I would also like to see is how successful in figures these schemes have been. We are repeatedly told by 'politicians' that they have been a huge success and well worth the millions that have been spent, but no one ever puts a figure on those who have lost weight, stopped smoking, given up drugs, taken up excercise or started to eat five portions a day.

The problem families are the Banksters robbing us for billions every which way they can.

you are of course aware that your evangelical end time garbage while determining who is good and who is evil, are the very institutions positioned to make judgement of us all?

The Evangelical end time brainwashed believe what they do because they are the judges...

that is going to be fun down the line...wake up you idiots, it is not the end times for the world, it is the end times for all of your Babylonian ilk as you are whisked off to the death camps for being such gullable fools...

Jack Herer wrote:

Cha'mone MF wrote:

Jack Herer wrote:

living the end times in BB1 wrote:

Jack Herer wrote:
Two things would massively help here.

1) Give smack heads heroin on prescription. Those problem families where heroin has it's disgusting grip, then no longer see parents spending all day stealing, selling their bodies to get their fix - whatever desperate things they are willing to do, where their own children become a hinderence to their all emcompassing addiction (in many cases through neglection becoming victims to paedophiles). Methadone obviously doesn't cut the mustard for those addicts, because they still do these deprived things to get heroin instead.

Who cares if these people want to get off their nut all day on brown - it would save us billions and billions, and we wouldn't have to be sickened reading about pensioners / war heroes robbed by scum to pay for a fix.

Most importantly, if we truly want to end this cycle, we need to look out for the poor kids of these addicts, and just make their lives far easier. Heroin prescribing has overwhelmingly been proven to do that in studies. There is only the sensationalist tabloids with their poodle politicians preventing this.

It means hard core criminals aren't making billions off this dispicable trade as well. Win win.

2) Those problem families who act hard and cause mischief, intimidating poor innocent members of society. Hammer them with quite eye-watering levels of dedicated policing - intimidating them instead with a tidal wave of authority. We'd be able to afford it with the billions and billions we'd save from the problem smack heads.

If we legalised cannabis as well, then man, we'd have enough money to constantly circle Tornado jets over the top of the sink estates!

Anybody who is caught taking or dealing in none prescription drugs should be beaten with a stick and locked up for ages.

Wise words.

Who cares how much it costs to society. If paedophiles or violent thugs have to go uninvestigated and unpunished to divert our resources to stopping these drug fiends, so be it. We need to show where our priorities lie as a society and stopping people harming no-one and having fun with things like cannabis, are far more important than stopping monsters raping children.

You're hearing me aren't you "living the end times in BB1"? We need to lock up anyone taking non-prescription drugs, even if the prescription drugs are actually far more dangerous. Those druggies daring to just enjoy themselves safely, are causing far more harm than paedophiles or rapists. Aren't they? They must be if we are leaving the paedos to get the pot heads.

Quick question "living the end times in BB1"; what harm are cannabis users doing to anyone, and therefore why should we spend our already stretched resources stopping them?

Best case scenario for you; they are caught and locked up. Is it more expensive to society to have them working hard, minding their business and paying taxes? Or is it more expensive stopping them working, locking them up, and taking over their upkeep and supervision?

Why would we want to turn someone from being a hugely positive input to society to being a huge drain on resources, when they haven't actually harmed anyone?

How stupid would society be to do something so clearly detrimental to itself? How stupid are you "living the end times in BB1"?

You live in a total dream world probably induced by your obvious love of cannabis (as seen as that's all you ever whinge on about). Legalising it won't stop the majority of users from buying it from existing dealers. Why? Because if it is sold legally in whichever retail outlet then it will be subject to some form of tax in the same way that alcohol and tobacco already are. Dealers would be losing money left right and centre so what would they do? Cut their prices of course to keep the user coming to them for business. This would unsuitable cause massive enforcement issues for customs and excise would have to address the issue of people selling it illegally and thus not paying the duty on it. I don't know exactly how much but the cost of enforcing this would more than likely exceed the revenue the tax would generate on legitimate sales.
And more than likely because of the other aspects of criminality associated with Drug dealers such enforcement would probably require a multi agency approach involving the Police anyway, so there would be very little in the
way of savings there or freeing up of Police resources.

So instead of dreaming about what a wonderful world it would be if you could legally buy cannabis think about the logistics of it, ie the costs involved because regardless about what you think about it causing less harm to society than alcohol etc etc in this day and age only one thing seems to matter and that is how much things cost. And for that reason it will be a very very ling time until it is legalised if ever at all.








Its logistical issues such

Ever heard of bargain booze? Oddbins? Do supermarkets sell alcohol? Off licenses?

Are all these outlets struggling because of competition from illegal alcohol suppliers? Does the alcohol industry make an overall loss to this country because of the cost of enforcement of illegal supply? No, never in a million years. Why not if what you are saying is true? You argument clearly makes no sense therefore.

People don't buy illegal alcohol - or at least very rarely. I've certainly never bought it in my life - and every single person I know buys their alcohol happily from shops which pay tax on it, and always have.

Why would that be any different with cannabis? Why would these same responsible people do completely the opposite when it came to cannabis?

All users of cannabis want controlled regulated supply - they want the full choice of effects from a full choice of strains. You don't get that from criminal supply - it's totally unregulated - who wants to take that? It causes a whole load of additional problems, which wouldn't happen were it legalised.

Ever heard of Amsterdam? You can buy cannabis legally there. Legal sales flourish. Why aren't the illegal dealers flourishing there if what you say is true, and the legal sellers falling by the wayside? Exactly the opposite of what you say will happen, happens there.

Ever heard of medical dispensaries in the US? Huge numbers of Americans get their medical cannabis from these official places. They are flourishing whilst illegal sales are hit. Exactly the opposite of what you say will happen, happens there.

Exactly the opposite of what you say will happen, has happened everywhere that cannabis laws have been relaxed in fact. There has been an absolutely zero increase of resources - health, police, social. People buy from the designated places, illegal dealers fall by the wayside.

Your worst case scaremongering argument is just another silly, flailing, unscientific durge fest that doesn't hold up to either logic, reason, or reality. Why should anyone believe your nonsense when it plainly and clearly isn't true?

You are simply parrotting tabloid scaremongering you total goon. The tabloids make huge amounts of money keeping cannabis illegal. It's a cash cow of a scare story. They aren't telling you the truth though - at all.

The downside is that society suffers greatly, because much needed resources are spent stopping people harming no-one, when they should be spent stopping real criminals with real victims.

Nice one therefore because you are the best friend to violent thugs and paedophiles. You keep them happy, because resources are diverted away from them - hugely. But you also keep hardcore criminals happy who make billions off illegal cannabis. Those people love you with all their heart. Your ignorance makes them rich and powerful.

Your blinkered ignorance is making the world a far worse place to live. Your blinkered ignorance helps a whole host of dispicable criminals immensely.

You total and utter moron.

Has anybody ever told you what a complete and utter pr1ck you are? If not I'd be very very surprised. There's no point trying to get involved in a reasonable argument with people like you because you are clearly one of these people that think if somebody does not have the same opinion as you then must
be wrong AND stupid. You clearly have your opinion that's fine, personally I think you're wrong but that's your opinion and you are entitled to it. You would do well to afford other people the same courtesy.

.........As "Dirty Harry" Calaghan once said; "OPINIONS ARE LIKE AS*HOLES, EVERYBODY'S GOT ONE".

Lifeinthemix wrote:
Pure garbage....;the real danger comes in the corporate charitable trusts operating for the corporate state in such agendas with only one aim...... to interfere in family life, under statute of course.

Get savy with statutes and the law :

https://www.lifeinth

emix.info/british-la

w/british-law-green-

card/

Even you are entitled to your opinion......even if it is weird and nobody understands it.

Cha'mone MF wrote:

Lifeinthemix wrote:
Pure garbage....;the real danger comes in the corporate charitable trusts operating for the corporate state in such agendas with only one aim...... to interfere in family life, under statute of course.

Get savy with statutes and the law :

https://www.lifeinth


emix.info/british-la


w/british-law-green-


card/

Even you are entitled to your opinion......even if it is weird and nobody understands it.

Lol, another ex cannabis injector who writes down his flashbacks. Top tip for him, stay away from the keyboard until you've stopped gouching out and realised it aint really happening.

Keep Darwen Green wrote:

Cha'mone MF wrote:

Lifeinthemix wrote:
Pure garbage....;the real danger comes in the corporate charitable trusts operating for the corporate state in such agendas with only one aim...... to interfere in family life, under statute of course.

Get savy with statutes and the law :

https://www.lifeinth



emix.info/british-la



w/british-law-green-



card/

Even you are entitled to your opinion......even if it is weird and nobody understands it.

Lol, another ex cannabis injector who writes down his flashbacks. Top tip for him, stay away from the keyboard until you've stopped gouching out and realised it aint really happening.

Judging by what he writes he more than likely injects toilet duck or brasso.

brainless idiots the pair of you, do you really think I care onejot what you think?

cannabis....don't you have to smoke to use cannabis?

Lifeinthemix wrote:
brainless idiots the pair of you, do you really think I care onejot what you think?

cannabis....don't you have to smoke to use cannabis?

You obviously do otherwise you wouldn't have just abused us !

Now go and roll a big fat dooby the size of a parsnip Mixey and push yourself a bit closer to mental illness. And while your at it why not invite Jerk Herer round?

Cha'mone MF wrote:

Lifeinthemix wrote:
brainless idiots the pair of you, do you really think I care onejot what you think?

cannabis....don't you have to smoke to use cannabis?

You obviously do otherwise you wouldn't have just abused us !

Now go and roll a big fat dooby the size of a parsnip Mixey and push yourself a bit closer to mental illness. And while your at it why not invite Jerk Herer round?

Quality but I think he's OD'd on cough syrup and is now on a magical mystery tour somewhere in Accrington. Never been tha same since the Ajax snorting incident in tesco's

ajax....now thats a story....