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Blackburn MP welcomes John Lewis Tithebarn decision

BLACKBURN MP Jack Straw has welcomed a decision by John Lewis to pull the plug on a massive department store at the centre of Preston’s Tithebarn development.

The retail giant’s decision to pull out of the deal has scuppered plans to revamp Preston town centre under a £700million scheme.

Blackburn with Darwen Council challenged ministers’ decision to award planning permission to scheme, which was the subject of a multi-million pound public inquiry in 2010.

Mr Straw said: “I am not surprised that John Lewis has pulled out because it would have been years before they could have started, since a condition of the planning permission was vastly improved road schemes and public transport schemes. Preston is gridlocked on Saturdays and during rush hours.

“By backing this grandiose scheme, Preston City Council and Lancashire County Council have cost boroughs elsewhere in Lancashire hundreds of thousands of pounds in legal costs to fight the application.”

Comments(40)

M.DANNY says...
7:52pm Thu 3 Nov 11

Well i am happy the Titherbarn project is abandoned,Preston is only a second tier town like Blackburn and Blackpool.Its a case of a town that was unjustifiably awarded a city status acting as if it's in the same league as Manchester and Liverpool.Preston is just a administrative centre of Lancashire and a town centre.With no Cathedral it sure is no City.Well Jack it's your fault Blackburn should have been awarded the City Status.The Margo's flats have come to a stanstill,the Cathedral plans is still on the drawing boards,the Orbital road is not completed the town council are opposing all private investments coming into Blackburn town centre.The town centre need residential flats,Four Star Hotel ,more retail and leisure investments to compete with Preston and Bolton.

paperboy70 says...
8:26pm Thu 3 Nov 11

As an outsider who happens to live in the Ribble Valley I think the people of Blackburn really need to move on about Preston being awarded city status. There's no point whinging about it and bemoaning the fact that Blackburn has a cathedral and Preston doesn't - Preston is a city, Blackburn isn't so just get over it please. This juvenile point scoring should be left in the playground.

Jack Straw really is two faced, whilst he fought the development of the Tithebarn because he believed it would impact on the traders in Blackburn, he's happy to let the Thwaites brewery site be developed by Sainsburys who will compete against all the town centre shops and market traders.

The Tithebarn development will happen in some shape or form and John Lewis will come back to Preston (probably with a much smaller store similar to the one they are going to develop in York). M&S are still committed to the scheme and so are many other retailers. Good luck to them and good luck to Blackburn... the town centre is much improved but please stop interfering with each others business... times are tough and council tax payers cannot afford to keep paying for these petty battles with the neighbours!

tpreece01 says...
8:27pm Thu 3 Nov 11

M Danny - it isn't abandoned, John Lewis has abandoned it, the scheme hasn't been cancelled. They'll just sign up a new anchor.

Livesey rover says...
8:53pm Thu 3 Nov 11

Nice one jack. Let Preston keep their lovely bus station!

shedhead64 says...
9:16pm Thu 3 Nov 11

How happy i am that my council tax was used to oppose this development...
I do hope the good councillors have a long list of other objections to spend our money on......

M.DANNY says...
9:24pm Thu 3 Nov 11

Preston,Blackburn and Blackpool are second tier towns,that each towns must strive toward ensuring that investment must be of equal measures,thus maintaining the viability of each town's economy with no detrimental effect to their neighbours so therefore the arguments is the Titherbarn project would kill off the neighbouring town's economies is overwhelmingly true.
As for the Sainsbury proposals in Blackburn town centre would not harm or kill off neighbouring towns economies,neither it will harm Blackburn town centre shop,because the majority of shops are clothes shops and take-aways.
Preston is only a town in same league as Blackburn and Blackpool.The sooner Blackburn gets the City Status as it's deserved the better for Lancashire and people of Lancashire.
Latest population figures
Blackburn 140,000
Blackpool 140,000
Preston 136,000.

angry_oscar says...
9:30pm Thu 3 Nov 11

Best news ever!!! Never want Preston to move forward. Long live Blackburn!!

M.DANNY says...
9:35pm Thu 3 Nov 11

Blackburn will be biggest town in Lancashire, with more population of Asian origins with larger families and many wives and partners coming over from India,Pakistan and Bangladesh each day ,Blackburn population could reach 170,000 by 2020,With half a million more population growing each year in UK ,Blackburn is one of that town in UK could see it's population rising in coming years.Preston population is declining so the city of Preston wants people over from Blackburn to do their shopping.Why not let Blackburn town centre expand more of it's retail and leisure industries so Blackburn can compete with Preston.

paperboy70 says...
9:47pm Thu 3 Nov 11

M.DANNY wrote:
Preston,Blackburn and Blackpool are second tier towns,that each towns must strive toward ensuring that investment must be of equal measures,thus maintaining the viability of each town's economy with no detrimental effect to their neighbours so therefore the arguments is the Titherbarn project would kill off the neighbouring town's economies is overwhelmingly true.
As for the Sainsbury proposals in Blackburn town centre would not harm or kill off neighbouring towns economies,neither it will harm Blackburn town centre shop,because the majority of shops are clothes shops and take-aways.
Preston is only a town in same league as Blackburn and Blackpool.The sooner Blackburn gets the City Status as it's deserved the better for Lancashire and people of Lancashire.
Latest population figures
Blackburn 140,000
Blackpool 140,000
Preston 136,000.
Population figures don't have any bearing on city status... nor does a cathedral. You really need to get a life and get over this petty jealousy.

M.DANNY says...
10:05pm Thu 3 Nov 11

Blackburn will get City Status it deserved and the population of Blackburn will rise to 170,000 by 2020 because of high birth rates and many Asian partners and wives are settling in Blackburn.We are not jealous of Preston,we got our own Cathedral,we got Blackburn Rovers,who are Preston North End ?
we have soccer domes,new shopping mall,we are getting a new bus station,we have curry mile in Whalley Range attracting thousands of visitors from Northwest and beyond,we have King George's Hall,a brand new super hospital,a retail park with cenima/bowling and more retail,hotel and leisure industries investments on the way.So why are we people of Blackburn jealous of Preston . We go to Manchester and Blackpool for trips and shopping on some occasions.Preston is nothing compared to Blackburn.

MerlinTheVoiceofReason2 says...
10:43pm Thu 3 Nov 11

M.DANNY wrote:
Blackburn will get City Status it deserved and the population of Blackburn will rise to 170,000 by 2020 because of high birth rates and many Asian partners and wives are settling in Blackburn.We are not jealous of Preston,we got our own Cathedral,we got Blackburn Rovers,who are Preston North End ?
we have soccer domes,new shopping mall,we are getting a new bus station,we have curry mile in Whalley Range attracting thousands of visitors from Northwest and beyond,we have King George's Hall,a brand new super hospital,a retail park with cenima/bowling and more retail,hotel and leisure industries investments on the way.So why are we people of Blackburn jealous of Preston . We go to Manchester and Blackpool for trips and shopping on some occasions.Preston is nothing compared to Blackburn.
I note you've been posting the same rubbish on the Lancashire Evening Post website! Grow up.

Livesey rover says...
10:45pm Thu 3 Nov 11

I go to mill hill, better shops there than Preston.

ToffeeGuy says...
11:14pm Thu 3 Nov 11

Hard to see how Preston could have justified a John Lewis. They usually go to large cities or the more prosperous towns of the South East. It's also hard to see why Preston needs more retail space when units such as TJ Hughes in the Fishergate Centre are empty.

The Bus Station should be kept and renovated. It is of architectural merit and seems very well used to me. The St Johns Arcade isn't the best, so perhaps that can go as part of any redevelopment.

Blackburn needs to get on and develop the market site. It needs a Wilkinsons and Home Bargains.

M.DANNY says...
11:26pm Thu 3 Nov 11

MerlinTheVoiceofReas
on2
wrote:
M.DANNY wrote:
Blackburn will get City Status it deserved and the population of Blackburn will rise to 170,000 by 2020 because of high birth rates and many Asian partners and wives are settling in Blackburn.We are not jealous of Preston,we got our own Cathedral,we got Blackburn Rovers,who are Preston North End ?
we have soccer domes,new shopping mall,we are getting a new bus station,we have curry mile in Whalley Range attracting thousands of visitors from Northwest and beyond,we have King George's Hall,a brand new super hospital,a retail park with cenima/bowling and more retail,hotel and leisure industries investments on the way.So why are we people of Blackburn jealous of Preston . We go to Manchester and Blackpool for trips and shopping on some occasions.Preston is nothing compared to Blackburn.
I note you've been posting the same rubbish on the Lancashire Evening Post website! Grow up.
You stop posting in our Blackburn Telegraph and keep your nose out in our town.We will get the city status which Blackburn deserves because of our beautiful Cathedral.You grow up and keep away from our Blackburn Telegraph.

M.DANNY says...
11:32pm Thu 3 Nov 11

ToffeeGuy wrote:
Hard to see how Preston could have justified a John Lewis. They usually go to large cities or the more prosperous towns of the South East. It's also hard to see why Preston needs more retail space when units such as TJ Hughes in the Fishergate Centre are empty.

The Bus Station should be kept and renovated. It is of architectural merit and seems very well used to me. The St Johns Arcade isn't the best, so perhaps that can go as part of any redevelopment.

Blackburn needs to get on and develop the market site. It needs a Wilkinsons and Home Bargains.
They want to attract all rich shoppers from Blackburn,Blackpool and Burnley and kill off town centre economies of all the towns in Lancashire.Blackburn will be the biggest town in 2020, population is set to rise from 140,000 to 170,000.
Our MP and Councillors just dont think ahead that we in Blackburn need more retail,leisure and Hotel industries so we can compete with Preston and Bolton.

mavrick says...
7:13am Fri 4 Nov 11

I will just shop on the internet and have it delivered. who needs town centre developments, when so many shops are closing, where is the justification for spending millions??
there is only so many shoppers to go round, what you bring into a new centre is simply taking from some other town.
Accrington should be the new city in lancashire, after all it is famous.

M.DANNY says...
7:34am Fri 4 Nov 11

paperboy70 wrote:
As an outsider who happens to live in the Ribble Valley I think the people of Blackburn really need to move on about Preston being awarded city status. There's no point whinging about it and bemoaning the fact that Blackburn has a cathedral and Preston doesn't - Preston is a city, Blackburn isn't so just get over it please. This juvenile point scoring should be left in the playground.

Jack Straw really is two faced, whilst he fought the development of the Tithebarn because he believed it would impact on the traders in Blackburn, he's happy to let the Thwaites brewery site be developed by Sainsburys who will compete against all the town centre shops and market traders.

The Tithebarn development will happen in some shape or form and John Lewis will come back to Preston (probably with a much smaller store similar to the one they are going to develop in York). M&S are still committed to the scheme and so are many other retailers. Good luck to them and good luck to Blackburn... the town centre is much improved but please stop interfering with each others business... times are tough and council tax payers cannot afford to keep paying for these petty battles with the neighbours!
Ribble Valley person stop posting rubbish about our town in our Blackburn Telegraph.Keep your nose out of town of Blackburn.We wiil get the City Status as we deserved because of our Beautiful Cathedral.Stop attacking ou MP Jack Straw he has served Blackburn well for the last 32 years as he held several Cabinet Posts he has been our best high profile MP since late Barbara Castle .Stick to your beloved Ribble Valley and send your post to Preston Post in future.We love Blackburn as i posted earlier Preston is nothing against Blackburn.We are lot bigger than Preston,BRFC who has heard of Preston North end ? we have University,a new shopping Mall,King George's Hall,soccer dome,brand new hospital,new cinema/bowling complex,
M65 thats connect to M61/M6 motorways,Curry Mile in Whalley Range that attracts thousands of visitors from all over UK.Blackburn population is growing and could reach 170,000 by 2025.We will get a new bus station,more retail,leisure and hotels in Blackburn town centre.We are not jealous of Preston because Preston is nothing compared to Blackburn.

kitchener2 says...
7:47am Fri 4 Nov 11

M.DANNY wrote:
Blackburn will get City Status it deserved and the population of Blackburn will rise to 170,000 by 2020 because of high birth rates and many Asian partners and wives are settling in Blackburn.We are not jealous of Preston,we got our own Cathedral,we got Blackburn Rovers,who are Preston North End ? we have soccer domes,new shopping mall,we are getting a new bus station,we have curry mile in Whalley Range attracting thousands of visitors from Northwest and beyond,we have King George's Hall,a brand new super hospital,a retail park with cenima/bowling and more retail,hotel and leisure industries investments on the way.So why are we people of Blackburn jealous of Preston . We go to Manchester and Blackpool for trips and shopping on some occasions.Preston is nothing compared to Blackburn.
Let's call it cloud cuckoo land then....that's obviously where you live!

cat woman says...
9:23am Fri 4 Nov 11

At the end of the day, Preston, Blackburn, Blackpool etc. all have similar high street stores. I shop in Blackburn because it is the closest town to me. There is no need to go anywhere else as the shops are the same in nearly every high street or shopping centre.

midas says...
9:54am Fri 4 Nov 11

That really sums up the attitude of M.DANNY and Jack Straw. Blackburn will never be a city, they had a chance and failed. Nothing has changed and an influx of asian immigrants isn't going to elevate its status.

sean_brfc says...
10:00am Fri 4 Nov 11

M.DANNY wrote:
Blackburn will get City Status it deserved and the population of Blackburn will rise to 170,000 by 2020 because of high birth rates and many Asian partners and wives are settling in Blackburn.We are not jealous of Preston,we got our own Cathedral,we got Blackburn Rovers,who are Preston North End ?
we have soccer domes,new shopping mall,we are getting a new bus station,we have curry mile in Whalley Range attracting thousands of visitors from Northwest and beyond,we have King George's Hall,a brand new super hospital,a retail park with cenima/bowling and more retail,hotel and leisure industries investments on the way.So why are we people of Blackburn jealous of Preston . We go to Manchester and Blackpool for trips and shopping on some occasions.Preston is nothing compared to Blackburn.
Stop making things up. The projected population rise of the whole of BwD is just 7,000 in the next twenty years. And net migration is not half a million each year. And need I remind you that 140,000 is NOT the population of Blackburn!

Lifeinthemix says...
10:30am Fri 4 Nov 11

Preston 1
Duke 0

Good show....

paperboy70 says...
3:07pm Fri 4 Nov 11

M.DANNY wrote:
paperboy70 wrote:
As an outsider who happens to live in the Ribble Valley I think the people of Blackburn really need to move on about Preston being awarded city status. There's no point whinging about it and bemoaning the fact that Blackburn has a cathedral and Preston doesn't - Preston is a city, Blackburn isn't so just get over it please. This juvenile point scoring should be left in the playground.

Jack Straw really is two faced, whilst he fought the development of the Tithebarn because he believed it would impact on the traders in Blackburn, he's happy to let the Thwaites brewery site be developed by Sainsburys who will compete against all the town centre shops and market traders.

The Tithebarn development will happen in some shape or form and John Lewis will come back to Preston (probably with a much smaller store similar to the one they are going to develop in York). M&S are still committed to the scheme and so are many other retailers. Good luck to them and good luck to Blackburn... the town centre is much improved but please stop interfering with each others business... times are tough and council tax payers cannot afford to keep paying for these petty battles with the neighbours!
Ribble Valley person stop posting rubbish about our town in our Blackburn Telegraph.Keep your nose out of town of Blackburn.We wiil get the City Status as we deserved because of our Beautiful Cathedral.Stop attacking ou MP Jack Straw he has served Blackburn well for the last 32 years as he held several Cabinet Posts he has been our best high profile MP since late Barbara Castle .Stick to your beloved Ribble Valley and send your post to Preston Post in future.We love Blackburn as i posted earlier Preston is nothing against Blackburn.We are lot bigger than Preston,BRFC who has heard of Preston North end ? we have University,a new shopping Mall,King George's Hall,soccer dome,brand new hospital,new cinema/bowling complex,
M65 thats connect to M61/M6 motorways,Curry Mile in Whalley Range that attracts thousands of visitors from all over UK.Blackburn population is growing and could reach 170,000 by 2025.We will get a new bus station,more retail,leisure and hotels in Blackburn town centre.We are not jealous of Preston because Preston is nothing compared to Blackburn.
You are quite clearly demented and have an anger problem M.DANNY, time for your medication I think. I have a Blackburn postcode and am entitled to make any comment I wish about Blackburn. What I posted was not derogatory, I simply said that people need to get over the fact that Preston is a city and that you had to accept it. I don't really care if Blackburn gets city status in the future, or it has a cathedral or 170,000 people living there, in the scheme of things it makes no difference to anyone (except maybe you?) I understand your passion for the place but carrying on insulting people on this site because you have a blinkered view is out of order, and if you're going out promoting yourself as an ambassador for the town you're doing a very poor job of it.

modan says...
9:12pm Fri 4 Nov 11

sean_brfc wrote:
M.DANNY wrote:
Blackburn will get City Status it deserved and the population of Blackburn will rise to 170,000 by 2020 because of high birth rates and many Asian partners and wives are settling in Blackburn.We are not jealous of Preston,we got our own Cathedral,we got Blackburn Rovers,who are Preston North End ?
we have soccer domes,new shopping mall,we are getting a new bus station,we have curry mile in Whalley Range attracting thousands of visitors from Northwest and beyond,we have King George's Hall,a brand new super hospital,a retail park with cenima/bowling and more retail,hotel and leisure industries investments on the way.So why are we people of Blackburn jealous of Preston . We go to Manchester and Blackpool for trips and shopping on some occasions.Preston is nothing compared to Blackburn.
Stop making things up. The projected population rise of the whole of BwD is just 7,000 in the next twenty years. And net migration is not half a million each year. And need I remind you that 140,000 is NOT the population of Blackburn!
Latest population of Blackburn with Darwen is 140,000
Blackpool around 140,000
Preston around 136,000
UK population is rising 63.3 million today to 70 million in 2027.
UK population is rising by half million a year ,immigration and rising birth rates driving this growth.
Blackburn has a large Asian population and they tend to have large families,that could double in 2030 plus the immigrants coming from EU countries .I think Blackburn population could reach about another 20,000 to 30,000 with this population forecast in UK to reach 70 million by 2027.Every towns and cities in UK with large Asian population like ,Bradford,Leicester,
Birmingham,Blackburn
,Leeds etc etc the population of these cities have increased by beetween 25% or more .It's the fact ,Blackburn Asian population has gone up from 25,000 to an estimate of around 35,000 .This is my estimate,if it continues the Asian popultion could reach 45,000 by 2027.
If M.danny says Blackburn with Darwen population will grow to 170,000 by 2025 it could be true.Nobody can predicts any population growth but UK population will reach 70 million by 2027 from 63.3 million today.
As for city status Blackburn might get it's City Status later but not now because of lot of regeneration works
going around Blackburn town centre.
Blackburn is not ready yet ,the town need a University,a Four or Five star hotel which Blackburn doesn't have yet.Blackburn has a Cathedral but there are 16 towns in UK with Cathedral but do not have city status and 18 Cities in uk without a Cathedral.
Three times Blackburn failed to get city status so it may be that Blackburn is not the only town but other Cathedral towns in UK are still not being awarded city status yet,It could be a very long wait for Blackburn.

M.DANNY says...
11:20pm Fri 4 Nov 11

paperboy70 wrote:
M.DANNY wrote:
paperboy70 wrote:
As an outsider who happens to live in the Ribble Valley I think the people of Blackburn really need to move on about Preston being awarded city status. There's no point whinging about it and bemoaning the fact that Blackburn has a cathedral and Preston doesn't - Preston is a city, Blackburn isn't so just get over it please. This juvenile point scoring should be left in the playground.

Jack Straw really is two faced, whilst he fought the development of the Tithebarn because he believed it would impact on the traders in Blackburn, he's happy to let the Thwaites brewery site be developed by Sainsburys who will compete against all the town centre shops and market traders.

The Tithebarn development will happen in some shape or form and John Lewis will come back to Preston (probably with a much smaller store similar to the one they are going to develop in York). M&S are still committed to the scheme and so are many other retailers. Good luck to them and good luck to Blackburn... the town centre is much improved but please stop interfering with each others business... times are tough and council tax payers cannot afford to keep paying for these petty battles with the neighbours!
Ribble Valley person stop posting rubbish about our town in our Blackburn Telegraph.Keep your nose out of town of Blackburn.We wiil get the City Status as we deserved because of our Beautiful Cathedral.Stop attacking ou MP Jack Straw he has served Blackburn well for the last 32 years as he held several Cabinet Posts he has been our best high profile MP since late Barbara Castle .Stick to your beloved Ribble Valley and send your post to Preston Post in future.We love Blackburn as i posted earlier Preston is nothing against Blackburn.We are lot bigger than Preston,BRFC who has heard of Preston North end ? we have University,a new shopping Mall,King George's Hall,soccer dome,brand new hospital,new cinema/bowling complex,
M65 thats connect to M61/M6 motorways,Curry Mile in Whalley Range that attracts thousands of visitors from all over UK.Blackburn population is growing and could reach 170,000 by 2025.We will get a new bus station,more retail,leisure and hotels in Blackburn town centre.We are not jealous of Preston because Preston is nothing compared to Blackburn.
You are quite clearly demented and have an anger problem M.DANNY, time for your medication I think. I have a Blackburn postcode and am entitled to make any comment I wish about Blackburn. What I posted was not derogatory, I simply said that people need to get over the fact that Preston is a city and that you had to accept it. I don't really care if Blackburn gets city status in the future, or it has a cathedral or 170,000 people living there, in the scheme of things it makes no difference to anyone (except maybe you?) I understand your passion for the place but carrying on insulting people on this site because you have a blinkered view is out of order, and if you're going out promoting yourself as an ambassador for the town you're doing a very poor job of it.
You are out of order to suggest we people of Blackburn are jealous of Preston getting the city status award or the fact people here to get over the fact that Preston is a city and we have to accept it here in Blackburn.
Look at the top of the paper the good news is we are rejoicing in Blackburn is that the Preston proposal the Titherbarn project is abandoned after John Lewis has pulled out, it was far too big for a town same size as Blackburn and Blackpool.The Titherbarn project would harm neighbouring towns economies.We dont care about Preston getting city status,as we are very proud of Blackburn,we have BRFC what is Preston North End ?we have our modern shopping Mall,Soccer Dome,University,mode
rn Super Hospital,Cinema/bowl
ing complex,King George's Hall,Curry Mile that attract thousands of visitors from all over UK.Preston is nothing compared to Blackburn.
Preston,Blackburn and Blackpool are just second tier towns it will never be cities like Manchester or Liverpool.Each of these towns must strive towards ensuring that investment must be of equal measures thus maintaining the viability of ech town's economy,with no detrimental effect to their neighbours therefore the argument is the Titherbarn project would kill off the neighbouring towns economies is overwhelmingly true.
Why do you think Blackburn council and Blackpool council were against the Tithabarn project ,they went all the way to court to stop this project which would harm their town centre economies.Do you think i am demented it's you who is demented ,as if we care about Preston is a city in Blackburn.Preston is just a town in the league as Blackburn and nothing more than a adminitrative centre for Lancashire Council.

Darwen Malc says...
1:01am Sat 5 Nov 11

Jack Straw may well be happy about John Lewis pulling out of Preston, but that doesnt mean that it bodes well for Blackburn. Look at the Mall just now, still not full,with empty units like where Burtons and Dorothy Perkins used to be, same with the old JD Sports unit, market only 60% full, elsewhere, Puccinos and Slingers have been empty for eons!

paperboy70 says...
9:58am Sat 5 Nov 11

M.DANNY wrote:
paperboy70 wrote:
M.DANNY wrote:
paperboy70 wrote:
As an outsider who happens to live in the Ribble Valley I think the people of Blackburn really need to move on about Preston being awarded city status. There's no point whinging about it and bemoaning the fact that Blackburn has a cathedral and Preston doesn't - Preston is a city, Blackburn isn't so just get over it please. This juvenile point scoring should be left in the playground.

Jack Straw really is two faced, whilst he fought the development of the Tithebarn because he believed it would impact on the traders in Blackburn, he's happy to let the Thwaites brewery site be developed by Sainsburys who will compete against all the town centre shops and market traders.

The Tithebarn development will happen in some shape or form and John Lewis will come back to Preston (probably with a much smaller store similar to the one they are going to develop in York). M&S are still committed to the scheme and so are many other retailers. Good luck to them and good luck to Blackburn... the town centre is much improved but please stop interfering with each others business... times are tough and council tax payers cannot afford to keep paying for these petty battles with the neighbours!
Ribble Valley person stop posting rubbish about our town in our Blackburn Telegraph.Keep your nose out of town of Blackburn.We wiil get the City Status as we deserved because of our Beautiful Cathedral.Stop attacking ou MP Jack Straw he has served Blackburn well for the last 32 years as he held several Cabinet Posts he has been our best high profile MP since late Barbara Castle .Stick to your beloved Ribble Valley and send your post to Preston Post in future.We love Blackburn as i posted earlier Preston is nothing against Blackburn.We are lot bigger than Preston,BRFC who has heard of Preston North end ? we have University,a new shopping Mall,King George's Hall,soccer dome,brand new hospital,new cinema/bowling complex,
M65 thats connect to M61/M6 motorways,Curry Mile in Whalley Range that attracts thousands of visitors from all over UK.Blackburn population is growing and could reach 170,000 by 2025.We will get a new bus station,more retail,leisure and hotels in Blackburn town centre.We are not jealous of Preston because Preston is nothing compared to Blackburn.
You are quite clearly demented and have an anger problem M.DANNY, time for your medication I think. I have a Blackburn postcode and am entitled to make any comment I wish about Blackburn. What I posted was not derogatory, I simply said that people need to get over the fact that Preston is a city and that you had to accept it. I don't really care if Blackburn gets city status in the future, or it has a cathedral or 170,000 people living there, in the scheme of things it makes no difference to anyone (except maybe you?) I understand your passion for the place but carrying on insulting people on this site because you have a blinkered view is out of order, and if you're going out promoting yourself as an ambassador for the town you're doing a very poor job of it.
You are out of order to suggest we people of Blackburn are jealous of Preston getting the city status award or the fact people here to get over the fact that Preston is a city and we have to accept it here in Blackburn.
Look at the top of the paper the good news is we are rejoicing in Blackburn is that the Preston proposal the Titherbarn project is abandoned after John Lewis has pulled out, it was far too big for a town same size as Blackburn and Blackpool.The Titherbarn project would harm neighbouring towns economies.We dont care about Preston getting city status,as we are very proud of Blackburn,we have BRFC what is Preston North End ?we have our modern shopping Mall,Soccer Dome,University,mode

rn Super Hospital,Cinema/bowl

ing complex,King George's Hall,Curry Mile that attract thousands of visitors from all over UK.Preston is nothing compared to Blackburn.
Preston,Blackburn and Blackpool are just second tier towns it will never be cities like Manchester or Liverpool.Each of these towns must strive towards ensuring that investment must be of equal measures thus maintaining the viability of ech town's economy,with no detrimental effect to their neighbours therefore the argument is the Titherbarn project would kill off the neighbouring towns economies is overwhelmingly true.
Why do you think Blackburn council and Blackpool council were against the Tithabarn project ,they went all the way to court to stop this project which would harm their town centre economies.Do you think i am demented it's you who is demented ,as if we care about Preston is a city in Blackburn.Preston is just a town in the league as Blackburn and nothing more than a adminitrative centre for Lancashire Council.
If you're not jealous, stop talking about it... simple! End of conversation.

Dave139 says...
11:46am Sat 5 Nov 11

I don't see how the Tithebarn project could have adverse effects on Blackburn a town already DEAD.

modan says...
3:34pm Sat 5 Nov 11

paperboy70 wrote:
M.DANNY wrote:
paperboy70 wrote:
As an outsider who happens to live in the Ribble Valley I think the people of Blackburn really need to move on about Preston being awarded city status. There's no point whinging about it and bemoaning the fact that Blackburn has a cathedral and Preston doesn't - Preston is a city, Blackburn isn't so just get over it please. This juvenile point scoring should be left in the playground.

Jack Straw really is two faced, whilst he fought the development of the Tithebarn because he believed it would impact on the traders in Blackburn, he's happy to let the Thwaites brewery site be developed by Sainsburys who will compete against all the town centre shops and market traders.

The Tithebarn development will happen in some shape or form and John Lewis will come back to Preston (probably with a much smaller store similar to the one they are going to develop in York). M&S are still committed to the scheme and so are many other retailers. Good luck to them and good luck to Blackburn... the town centre is much improved but please stop interfering with each others business... times are tough and council tax payers cannot afford to keep paying for these petty battles with the neighbours!
Ribble Valley person stop posting rubbish about our town in our Blackburn Telegraph.Keep your nose out of town of Blackburn.We wiil get the City Status as we deserved because of our Beautiful Cathedral.Stop attacking ou MP Jack Straw he has served Blackburn well for the last 32 years as he held several Cabinet Posts he has been our best high profile MP since late Barbara Castle .Stick to your beloved Ribble Valley and send your post to Preston Post in future.We love Blackburn as i posted earlier Preston is nothing against Blackburn.We are lot bigger than Preston,BRFC who has heard of Preston North end ? we have University,a new shopping Mall,King George's Hall,soccer dome,brand new hospital,new cinema/bowling complex,
M65 thats connect to M61/M6 motorways,Curry Mile in Whalley Range that attracts thousands of visitors from all over UK.Blackburn population is growing and could reach 170,000 by 2025.We will get a new bus station,more retail,leisure and hotels in Blackburn town centre.We are not jealous of Preston because Preston is nothing compared to Blackburn.
You are quite clearly demented and have an anger problem M.DANNY, time for your medication I think. I have a Blackburn postcode and am entitled to make any comment I wish about Blackburn. What I posted was not derogatory, I simply said that people need to get over the fact that Preston is a city and that you had to accept it. I don't really care if Blackburn gets city status in the future, or it has a cathedral or 170,000 people living there, in the scheme of things it makes no difference to anyone (except maybe you?) I understand your passion for the place but carrying on insulting people on this site because you have a blinkered view is out of order, and if you're going out promoting yourself as an ambassador for the town you're doing a very poor job of it.
You have a Blackburn postcode just like Burnley,Accrington and Darwen.But you dont live in Blackburn and you don't pay council tax or contribute anything to town of Blackburn.We dont need cheap jibes or any insult from you again.This matter does not concern you because you do not happen to live in Blackburn with Darwen.Your negatives references to Blackburn in particular do nothing to help us move forward.We are not jealous of Preston being awarded city status,you forget there are three other towns in Northwest that were cities long before Preston was awarded ie Lancaster,Chester and Carlisle.These are only large towns just like Preston,Blackburn,Bo
lton and Blackpool.Manchester and Liverpool are a different league as they are proper large cities of UK. Can you post your future comments in you own local Ribble Valley papers or Preston Post as you happen to be very bias toward Preston.I myself lived in Blackburn all my life and i am too proud of my town,I lke Blackburn town centre,Blackburn Rovers,the new retail parks around Blackburn.I like the regeneration works that are going around the town centre,there has been lot of improvements made by the council.We got the new Mall Shopping Centre,the new University Centre,the new Health Centre,the town centre is progressing and although there is still more to do there are plenty signs of real momentum.We need a large hotel/conference venue in the town for a start,we could do with a new bus station which is planned at old markets.Sainsbury plans at the Thwaites Brewery are good for the town that would attract more shoppers into town centre. It would be wrong to suggest that Blackburn hasn't got problems of regeneration and development like many other towns and cities.As for the Preston Titherbarn project was unfair to neighbouring towns like Blackburn,Blackpool and Burnley which would harm their economies.Best thing for Preston right now is save the old bus station and improve their existing shopping centres like St John's ,St George's and Fishergate.Blackburn and Blackpool council were in their rights to protect their town centre economies and fought against this Tithebarn projects proposed by Preston Council.There is nothing wrong with that ,this is not the case of jealousy from Blackburn or Blackpool as Preston was awarded city status.

paperboy70 says...
5:15pm Sat 5 Nov 11

modan wrote:
paperboy70 wrote:
M.DANNY wrote:
paperboy70 wrote:
As an outsider who happens to live in the Ribble Valley I think the people of Blackburn really need to move on about Preston being awarded city status. There's no point whinging about it and bemoaning the fact that Blackburn has a cathedral and Preston doesn't - Preston is a city, Blackburn isn't so just get over it please. This juvenile point scoring should be left in the playground.

Jack Straw really is two faced, whilst he fought the development of the Tithebarn because he believed it would impact on the traders in Blackburn, he's happy to let the Thwaites brewery site be developed by Sainsburys who will compete against all the town centre shops and market traders.

The Tithebarn development will happen in some shape or form and John Lewis will come back to Preston (probably with a much smaller store similar to the one they are going to develop in York). M&S are still committed to the scheme and so are many other retailers. Good luck to them and good luck to Blackburn... the town centre is much improved but please stop interfering with each others business... times are tough and council tax payers cannot afford to keep paying for these petty battles with the neighbours!
Ribble Valley person stop posting rubbish about our town in our Blackburn Telegraph.Keep your nose out of town of Blackburn.We wiil get the City Status as we deserved because of our Beautiful Cathedral.Stop attacking ou MP Jack Straw he has served Blackburn well for the last 32 years as he held several Cabinet Posts he has been our best high profile MP since late Barbara Castle .Stick to your beloved Ribble Valley and send your post to Preston Post in future.We love Blackburn as i posted earlier Preston is nothing against Blackburn.We are lot bigger than Preston,BRFC who has heard of Preston North end ? we have University,a new shopping Mall,King George's Hall,soccer dome,brand new hospital,new cinema/bowling complex,
M65 thats connect to M61/M6 motorways,Curry Mile in Whalley Range that attracts thousands of visitors from all over UK.Blackburn population is growing and could reach 170,000 by 2025.We will get a new bus station,more retail,leisure and hotels in Blackburn town centre.We are not jealous of Preston because Preston is nothing compared to Blackburn.
You are quite clearly demented and have an anger problem M.DANNY, time for your medication I think. I have a Blackburn postcode and am entitled to make any comment I wish about Blackburn. What I posted was not derogatory, I simply said that people need to get over the fact that Preston is a city and that you had to accept it. I don't really care if Blackburn gets city status in the future, or it has a cathedral or 170,000 people living there, in the scheme of things it makes no difference to anyone (except maybe you?) I understand your passion for the place but carrying on insulting people on this site because you have a blinkered view is out of order, and if you're going out promoting yourself as an ambassador for the town you're doing a very poor job of it.
You have a Blackburn postcode just like Burnley,Accrington and Darwen.But you dont live in Blackburn and you don't pay council tax or contribute anything to town of Blackburn.We dont need cheap jibes or any insult from you again.This matter does not concern you because you do not happen to live in Blackburn with Darwen.Your negatives references to Blackburn in particular do nothing to help us move forward.We are not jealous of Preston being awarded city status,you forget there are three other towns in Northwest that were cities long before Preston was awarded ie Lancaster,Chester and Carlisle.These are only large towns just like Preston,Blackburn,Bo

lton and Blackpool.Manchester and Liverpool are a different league as they are proper large cities of UK. Can you post your future comments in you own local Ribble Valley papers or Preston Post as you happen to be very bias toward Preston.I myself lived in Blackburn all my life and i am too proud of my town,I lke Blackburn town centre,Blackburn Rovers,the new retail parks around Blackburn.I like the regeneration works that are going around the town centre,there has been lot of improvements made by the council.We got the new Mall Shopping Centre,the new University Centre,the new Health Centre,the town centre is progressing and although there is still more to do there are plenty signs of real momentum.We need a large hotel/conference venue in the town for a start,we could do with a new bus station which is planned at old markets.Sainsbury plans at the Thwaites Brewery are good for the town that would attract more shoppers into town centre. It would be wrong to suggest that Blackburn hasn't got problems of regeneration and development like many other towns and cities.As for the Preston Titherbarn project was unfair to neighbouring towns like Blackburn,Blackpool and Burnley which would harm their economies.Best thing for Preston right now is save the old bus station and improve their existing shopping centres like St John's ,St George's and Fishergate.Blackburn and Blackpool council were in their rights to protect their town centre economies and fought against this Tithebarn projects proposed by Preston Council.There is nothing wrong with that ,this is not the case of jealousy from Blackburn or Blackpool as Preston was awarded city status.
Sorry, but I'll post what the hell I like on this website... and you're still whinging about blooming city status, no-one really cares so move on!

modan says...
5:56pm Sat 5 Nov 11

Kindly refrain from posting more comments regarding Blackburn you do not live in Blackburn you live in Ribble Valley/Clitheroe area,this does not concern you.Your comments are just insulting the town and the people of Blackburn.You are demented guy just like the councillor of Preston who thinks his town is bigger than Blackburn and Blackpool.

miss blue n white says...
8:47pm Sat 5 Nov 11

paperboy70 wrote:
modan wrote:
paperboy70 wrote:
M.DANNY wrote:
paperboy70 wrote:
As an outsider who happens to live in the Ribble Valley I think the people of Blackburn really need to move on about Preston being awarded city status. There's no point whinging about it and bemoaning the fact that Blackburn has a cathedral and Preston doesn't - Preston is a city, Blackburn isn't so just get over it please. This juvenile point scoring should be left in the playground.

Jack Straw really is two faced, whilst he fought the development of the Tithebarn because he believed it would impact on the traders in Blackburn, he's happy to let the Thwaites brewery site be developed by Sainsburys who will compete against all the town centre shops and market traders.

The Tithebarn development will happen in some shape or form and John Lewis will come back to Preston (probably with a much smaller store similar to the one they are going to develop in York). M&S are still committed to the scheme and so are many other retailers. Good luck to them and good luck to Blackburn... the town centre is much improved but please stop interfering with each others business... times are tough and council tax payers cannot afford to keep paying for these petty battles with the neighbours!
Ribble Valley person stop posting rubbish about our town in our Blackburn Telegraph.Keep your nose out of town of Blackburn.We wiil get the City Status as we deserved because of our Beautiful Cathedral.Stop attacking ou MP Jack Straw he has served Blackburn well for the last 32 years as he held several Cabinet Posts he has been our best high profile MP since late Barbara Castle .Stick to your beloved Ribble Valley and send your post to Preston Post in future.We love Blackburn as i posted earlier Preston is nothing against Blackburn.We are lot bigger than Preston,BRFC who has heard of Preston North end ? we have University,a new shopping Mall,King George's Hall,soccer dome,brand new hospital,new cinema/bowling complex,
M65 thats connect to M61/M6 motorways,Curry Mile in Whalley Range that attracts thousands of visitors from all over UK.Blackburn population is growing and could reach 170,000 by 2025.We will get a new bus station,more retail,leisure and hotels in Blackburn town centre.We are not jealous of Preston because Preston is nothing compared to Blackburn.
You are quite clearly demented and have an anger problem M.DANNY, time for your medication I think. I have a Blackburn postcode and am entitled to make any comment I wish about Blackburn. What I posted was not derogatory, I simply said that people need to get over the fact that Preston is a city and that you had to accept it. I don't really care if Blackburn gets city status in the future, or it has a cathedral or 170,000 people living there, in the scheme of things it makes no difference to anyone (except maybe you?) I understand your passion for the place but carrying on insulting people on this site because you have a blinkered view is out of order, and if you're going out promoting yourself as an ambassador for the town you're doing a very poor job of it.
You have a Blackburn postcode just like Burnley,Accrington and Darwen.But you dont live in Blackburn and you don't pay council tax or contribute anything to town of Blackburn.We dont need cheap jibes or any insult from you again.This matter does not concern you because you do not happen to live in Blackburn with Darwen.Your negatives references to Blackburn in particular do nothing to help us move forward.We are not jealous of Preston being awarded city status,you forget there are three other towns in Northwest that were cities long before Preston was awarded ie Lancaster,Chester and Carlisle.These are only large towns just like Preston,Blackburn,Bo


lton and Blackpool.Manchester and Liverpool are a different league as they are proper large cities of UK. Can you post your future comments in you own local Ribble Valley papers or Preston Post as you happen to be very bias toward Preston.I myself lived in Blackburn all my life and i am too proud of my town,I lke Blackburn town centre,Blackburn Rovers,the new retail parks around Blackburn.I like the regeneration works that are going around the town centre,there has been lot of improvements made by the council.We got the new Mall Shopping Centre,the new University Centre,the new Health Centre,the town centre is progressing and although there is still more to do there are plenty signs of real momentum.We need a large hotel/conference venue in the town for a start,we could do with a new bus station which is planned at old markets.Sainsbury plans at the Thwaites Brewery are good for the town that would attract more shoppers into town centre. It would be wrong to suggest that Blackburn hasn't got problems of regeneration and development like many other towns and cities.As for the Preston Titherbarn project was unfair to neighbouring towns like Blackburn,Blackpool and Burnley which would harm their economies.Best thing for Preston right now is save the old bus station and improve their existing shopping centres like St John's ,St George's and Fishergate.Blackburn and Blackpool council were in their rights to protect their town centre economies and fought against this Tithebarn projects proposed by Preston Council.There is nothing wrong with that ,this is not the case of jealousy from Blackburn or Blackpool as Preston was awarded city status.
Sorry, but I'll post what the hell I like on this website... and you're still whinging about blooming city status, no-one really cares so move on!
I think it's time you stop posting more comments on the Lancashire Telegraph.We dont like cheap jibes about our town,You are an outsider and this is no concern to you.I was born in Blackburn , i think Blackburn is million times better than Preston.We are not jealous of Preston,because i dont bother going to Preston.We have everything what we want in Blackburn.We have a fabulous university centre,fantastic library,museum, waves,king george's hall,shopping mall,cinema and bowling and night clubs.I suppose the people of Ribble Valley come down to have a good time in Blackburn town centre.

paperboy70 says...
9:03pm Sat 5 Nov 11

miss blue n white wrote:
paperboy70 wrote:
modan wrote:
paperboy70 wrote:
M.DANNY wrote:
paperboy70 wrote:
As an outsider who happens to live in the Ribble Valley I think the people of Blackburn really need to move on about Preston being awarded city status. There's no point whinging about it and bemoaning the fact that Blackburn has a cathedral and Preston doesn't - Preston is a city, Blackburn isn't so just get over it please. This juvenile point scoring should be left in the playground.

Jack Straw really is two faced, whilst he fought the development of the Tithebarn because he believed it would impact on the traders in Blackburn, he's happy to let the Thwaites brewery site be developed by Sainsburys who will compete against all the town centre shops and market traders.

The Tithebarn development will happen in some shape or form and John Lewis will come back to Preston (probably with a much smaller store similar to the one they are going to develop in York). M&S are still committed to the scheme and so are many other retailers. Good luck to them and good luck to Blackburn... the town centre is much improved but please stop interfering with each others business... times are tough and council tax payers cannot afford to keep paying for these petty battles with the neighbours!
Ribble Valley person stop posting rubbish about our town in our Blackburn Telegraph.Keep your nose out of town of Blackburn.We wiil get the City Status as we deserved because of our Beautiful Cathedral.Stop attacking ou MP Jack Straw he has served Blackburn well for the last 32 years as he held several Cabinet Posts he has been our best high profile MP since late Barbara Castle .Stick to your beloved Ribble Valley and send your post to Preston Post in future.We love Blackburn as i posted earlier Preston is nothing against Blackburn.We are lot bigger than Preston,BRFC who has heard of Preston North end ? we have University,a new shopping Mall,King George's Hall,soccer dome,brand new hospital,new cinema/bowling complex,
M65 thats connect to M61/M6 motorways,Curry Mile in Whalley Range that attracts thousands of visitors from all over UK.Blackburn population is growing and could reach 170,000 by 2025.We will get a new bus station,more retail,leisure and hotels in Blackburn town centre.We are not jealous of Preston because Preston is nothing compared to Blackburn.
You are quite clearly demented and have an anger problem M.DANNY, time for your medication I think. I have a Blackburn postcode and am entitled to make any comment I wish about Blackburn. What I posted was not derogatory, I simply said that people need to get over the fact that Preston is a city and that you had to accept it. I don't really care if Blackburn gets city status in the future, or it has a cathedral or 170,000 people living there, in the scheme of things it makes no difference to anyone (except maybe you?) I understand your passion for the place but carrying on insulting people on this site because you have a blinkered view is out of order, and if you're going out promoting yourself as an ambassador for the town you're doing a very poor job of it.
You have a Blackburn postcode just like Burnley,Accrington and Darwen.But you dont live in Blackburn and you don't pay council tax or contribute anything to town of Blackburn.We dont need cheap jibes or any insult from you again.This matter does not concern you because you do not happen to live in Blackburn with Darwen.Your negatives references to Blackburn in particular do nothing to help us move forward.We are not jealous of Preston being awarded city status,you forget there are three other towns in Northwest that were cities long before Preston was awarded ie Lancaster,Chester and Carlisle.These are only large towns just like Preston,Blackburn,Bo



lton and Blackpool.Manchester and Liverpool are a different league as they are proper large cities of UK. Can you post your future comments in you own local Ribble Valley papers or Preston Post as you happen to be very bias toward Preston.I myself lived in Blackburn all my life and i am too proud of my town,I lke Blackburn town centre,Blackburn Rovers,the new retail parks around Blackburn.I like the regeneration works that are going around the town centre,there has been lot of improvements made by the council.We got the new Mall Shopping Centre,the new University Centre,the new Health Centre,the town centre is progressing and although there is still more to do there are plenty signs of real momentum.We need a large hotel/conference venue in the town for a start,we could do with a new bus station which is planned at old markets.Sainsbury plans at the Thwaites Brewery are good for the town that would attract more shoppers into town centre. It would be wrong to suggest that Blackburn hasn't got problems of regeneration and development like many other towns and cities.As for the Preston Titherbarn project was unfair to neighbouring towns like Blackburn,Blackpool and Burnley which would harm their economies.Best thing for Preston right now is save the old bus station and improve their existing shopping centres like St John's ,St George's and Fishergate.Blackburn and Blackpool council were in their rights to protect their town centre economies and fought against this Tithebarn projects proposed by Preston Council.There is nothing wrong with that ,this is not the case of jealousy from Blackburn or Blackpool as Preston was awarded city status.
Sorry, but I'll post what the hell I like on this website... and you're still whinging about blooming city status, no-one really cares so move on!
I think it's time you stop posting more comments on the Lancashire Telegraph.We dont like cheap jibes about our town,You are an outsider and this is no concern to you.I was born in Blackburn , i think Blackburn is million times better than Preston.We are not jealous of Preston,because i dont bother going to Preston.We have everything what we want in Blackburn.We have a fabulous university centre,fantastic library,museum, waves,king george's hall,shopping mall,cinema and bowling and night clubs.I suppose the people of Ribble Valley come down to have a good time in Blackburn town centre.
Everytime I go to Blackburn I'm reminded how grateful I am to live in the Ribble Valley and to be honest do my very best to avoid the place!

modan says...
10:00pm Sat 5 Nov 11

paperboy70 wrote:
miss blue n white wrote:
paperboy70 wrote:
modan wrote:
paperboy70 wrote:
M.DANNY wrote:
paperboy70 wrote:
As an outsider who happens to live in the Ribble Valley I think the people of Blackburn really need to move on about Preston being awarded city status. There's no point whinging about it and bemoaning the fact that Blackburn has a cathedral and Preston doesn't - Preston is a city, Blackburn isn't so just get over it please. This juvenile point scoring should be left in the playground.

Jack Straw really is two faced, whilst he fought the development of the Tithebarn because he believed it would impact on the traders in Blackburn, he's happy to let the Thwaites brewery site be developed by Sainsburys who will compete against all the town centre shops and market traders.

The Tithebarn development will happen in some shape or form and John Lewis will come back to Preston (probably with a much smaller store similar to the one they are going to develop in York). M&S are still committed to the scheme and so are many other retailers. Good luck to them and good luck to Blackburn... the town centre is much improved but please stop interfering with each others business... times are tough and council tax payers cannot afford to keep paying for these petty battles with the neighbours!
Ribble Valley person stop posting rubbish about our town in our Blackburn Telegraph.Keep your nose out of town of Blackburn.We wiil get the City Status as we deserved because of our Beautiful Cathedral.Stop attacking ou MP Jack Straw he has served Blackburn well for the last 32 years as he held several Cabinet Posts he has been our best high profile MP since late Barbara Castle .Stick to your beloved Ribble Valley and send your post to Preston Post in future.We love Blackburn as i posted earlier Preston is nothing against Blackburn.We are lot bigger than Preston,BRFC who has heard of Preston North end ? we have University,a new shopping Mall,King George's Hall,soccer dome,brand new hospital,new cinema/bowling complex,
M65 thats connect to M61/M6 motorways,Curry Mile in Whalley Range that attracts thousands of visitors from all over UK.Blackburn population is growing and could reach 170,000 by 2025.We will get a new bus station,more retail,leisure and hotels in Blackburn town centre.We are not jealous of Preston because Preston is nothing compared to Blackburn.
You are quite clearly demented and have an anger problem M.DANNY, time for your medication I think. I have a Blackburn postcode and am entitled to make any comment I wish about Blackburn. What I posted was not derogatory, I simply said that people need to get over the fact that Preston is a city and that you had to accept it. I don't really care if Blackburn gets city status in the future, or it has a cathedral or 170,000 people living there, in the scheme of things it makes no difference to anyone (except maybe you?) I understand your passion for the place but carrying on insulting people on this site because you have a blinkered view is out of order, and if you're going out promoting yourself as an ambassador for the town you're doing a very poor job of it.
You have a Blackburn postcode just like Burnley,Accrington and Darwen.But you dont live in Blackburn and you don't pay council tax or contribute anything to town of Blackburn.We dont need cheap jibes or any insult from you again.This matter does not concern you because you do not happen to live in Blackburn with Darwen.Your negatives references to Blackburn in particular do nothing to help us move forward.We are not jealous of Preston being awarded city status,you forget there are three other towns in Northwest that were cities long before Preston was awarded ie Lancaster,Chester and Carlisle.These are only large towns just like Preston,Blackburn,Bo




lton and Blackpool.Manchester and Liverpool are a different league as they are proper large cities of UK. Can you post your future comments in you own local Ribble Valley papers or Preston Post as you happen to be very bias toward Preston.I myself lived in Blackburn all my life and i am too proud of my town,I lke Blackburn town centre,Blackburn Rovers,the new retail parks around Blackburn.I like the regeneration works that are going around the town centre,there has been lot of improvements made by the council.We got the new Mall Shopping Centre,the new University Centre,the new Health Centre,the town centre is progressing and although there is still more to do there are plenty signs of real momentum.We need a large hotel/conference venue in the town for a start,we could do with a new bus station which is planned at old markets.Sainsbury plans at the Thwaites Brewery are good for the town that would attract more shoppers into town centre. It would be wrong to suggest that Blackburn hasn't got problems of regeneration and development like many other towns and cities.As for the Preston Titherbarn project was unfair to neighbouring towns like Blackburn,Blackpool and Burnley which would harm their economies.Best thing for Preston right now is save the old bus station and improve their existing shopping centres like St John's ,St George's and Fishergate.Blackburn and Blackpool council were in their rights to protect their town centre economies and fought against this Tithebarn projects proposed by Preston Council.There is nothing wrong with that ,this is not the case of jealousy from Blackburn or Blackpool as Preston was awarded city status.
Sorry, but I'll post what the hell I like on this website... and you're still whinging about blooming city status, no-one really cares so move on!
I think it's time you stop posting more comments on the Lancashire Telegraph.We dont like cheap jibes about our town,You are an outsider and this is no concern to you.I was born in Blackburn , i think Blackburn is million times better than Preston.We are not jealous of Preston,because i dont bother going to Preston.We have everything what we want in Blackburn.We have a fabulous university centre,fantastic library,museum, waves,king george's hall,shopping mall,cinema and bowling and night clubs.I suppose the people of Ribble Valley come down to have a good time in Blackburn town centre.
Everytime I go to Blackburn I'm reminded how grateful I am to live in the Ribble Valley and to be honest do my very best to avoid the place!
Please do not come to Blackburn you are a demented person and stay away from Blackburn .Stay in the wilderness of Ribble Valley and just look at the trees,birds and countryside because City life is not for you.Please kindly stop this posting, you are insulting my town of Blackburn and it's people.We dont want your cheap jibes.

M.DANNY says...
10:49pm Sat 5 Nov 11

Just ignore him Modan,he's been spouting anti-Blackburn ****.Not been very subtle about it either.

paperboy70 says...
8:40am Sun 6 Nov 11

losers!

miss blue n white says...
11:33am Sun 6 Nov 11

paperboy70 wrote:
losers!
I think you should stop posting more offensive comments on this site.You live in Ribble Valley area and the town of Blackburn is of no concern of yours.You have insulted the people and the town of Blackburn.You should keep away from our town as you are a demented person.You have insulted Blackburn MP Jack Straw.The regeneration of Blackburn is nothing to do with you,the people of Blackburn are very happy about all the regeneration works in the Blackburn town centre so far.You are a outsider so please do not make any further comments regarding Blackburn or it's people.I hope the Lancashire Telegraph remove your posting and ban you from this site.

cathedral citi says...
11:59am Sun 6 Nov 11

As a resident of Burnley, I will give you my honest imput regarding the whole saga that is the tithebarn.

Tithebarn is nothing more than a 'pie in the sky' project dreamed up by the elders of Preston, and further propagated since city status was awarded 9 years ago........the dust has now settled, and the heads are out of the clouds, and this resulted in the duke of westminster pulling out of the project earlier on this year, and now John Lewis, who was to be the main anchor for the development.
This decision, undoubtedly, is not only a fiscal one, but a genuine realisation by the above parties that such a colossal development for a small northern town is unrealistic, and could end up being a 'white elephant'.

As for 'city status'.......who is the more worthy of Lancashire towns for the honour? my personal opinion is, undoubtedly, Blackburn.

As a Burnleyite, i am not the only one that shops in Blackburn....I know of countless Burnley folk who shop in Blackburn, and begrudgingly admit, that the shopping offer in Blackburn is Probably better than Preston's, now that the Blackburn Mall is complete.......Black
burn has a true 'city feel' about it. A compact yet airy shopping mall, that looks fresh and pleasant, Unlike Preston's 'disjointed' shopping scene....

Preston Needs an overhaul, as it is looking rather tired, but the tithebarn project was not the answer.......

Blackburn has had hundreds of millions of pounds worth of investments in the last ten years, and has resulted in a rather positive outcome.......Brand new hospital, new college buildings, New shopping centre, new health centre, retail parks. And once the cathedral quarter development bears fruition, together with the thwaites and old markets site, then Blackburn will, undoubtedly, hold it's own, and be worthy of being a city.

Finally, the office for national statistics (ONS) confirms its findings, that Blackburn's population will rise to approx 167,000 by 2031, and will be the largest settlement by population in Lancashire.....

cathedral citi says...
12:11pm Sun 6 Nov 11

paperboy70 wrote:
losers!
You're the petty one! Preston only got it's city status, because the duke of westminster has influence, and owns large tracts of land in the centre of Preston........

In the eyes of officialdom, Preston may be a city, but Blackburn is a true 'Cathedral City' official or not!

CAG1 says...
1:46pm Mon 28 Nov 11

Did Preston people really think John Lewis would go there? Wake up and take off your rose tinted glasses. John Lewis clientele in Preston, best joke ever.

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