PLANS to turn a derelict grade II-listed hotel into a community centre and mosque have been given the go-ahead.
Councillors approved proposals for the old Groves Hotel, Manchester Road, Nelson, to be converted into a community centre, a mosque and business starter units at this week's Nelson Committee meeting.
Pendle Council officers had recommended the proposals for the 19th century hotel, which had 45 signatures backing the application, be given the green light.
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The new mosque, accommodating people from Medina Mosque, which has outgrown its current premises in Forest Street, will not have a call to prayers.
The main building will house a café area, a meeting/function hall with the rest being utilised for prayers, meetings and storage.
The coach house will be converted into four business starter units with natural stone being used for the buildings.
And there will be 80 parking spaces on the land along the front and the rear yard of the hotel, which is currently unsafe.
Coun Mohammed Iqbal welcomed the application.
He said: "We have to bear in mind that the Groves Hotel has been a major eye-sore in Nelson.
"Various political parties and councillors have tried to address this.
"They want to bring into use a Grade two listed building which is the most important part of this application."
Coun Roy Edwards seconded the motion for approval. He said: "This is an overgrown monstrosity and is someone is going to do something with it I can only welcome it."
A representative from developers UKIM Madina Masjid said they would be working with English Heritage to maintain the original features of the building and that work would start on the roof within six months.
Here is the magic information - the organisation associated with this are called UK Islamic Mission and they were featured on a disptaches programme - I don't have to point out why. I cannot imagine this place or these individuals embracing any aspect of community cohesion. Well at least it might encourage the BBC to bring back "Mind Your Language".
Here is the magic information - the organisation associated with this are called UK Islamic Mission and they were featured on a disptaches programme - I don't have to point out why. I cannot imagine this place or these individuals embracing any aspect of community cohesion. Well at least it might encourage the BBC to bring back "Mind Your Language".
[quote][bold]atheist[/bold] wrote:
Community centre? Does that mean that as a white atheist I can get a cup of coffee in the cafe? I think not![/quote] you will only be able to order BLACK coffee
atheist wrote:
Community centre? Does that mean that as a white atheist I can get a cup of coffee in the cafe? I think not!
Disgrace!!!
If i wanna go in for a samosa and a mango lasi i will. I'm like you, im an atheist.
You watch, a post office will close and a curry house will open. We'll lose a doctors surgery and a taxi rank will open.
Disgrace!!!
If i wanna go in for a samosa and a mango lasi i will. I'm like you, im an atheist.
You watch, a post office will close and a curry house will open. We'll lose a doctors surgery and a taxi rank will open.
Posted by: YEAHRIGHT, Colne on 12:01pm Fri 9 May 08
Isn't one mosque in Nelson enough? They really have got their feet under our table now haven't they. We'll never get rid of them, they have it too easy!
Isn't one mosque in Nelson enough? They really have got their feet under our table now haven't they. We'll never get rid of them, they have it too easy!
Posted by: molveees, London on 1:44pm Fri 9 May 08
Get a life u ppl who are against the idea. Ask any human being which is better. Apub where u lifeless, gutless want to get drunk & ruin it for urself & others or a place of worship & tranquility. We muslims dont mind ur comments. It makes Islam Grow ever so faster. Keep spewing that hatred. The ACT of Spewing is bad but the outcome is exellent. I say Bring it on u losers in Life & after-life.
Get a life u ppl who are against the idea. Ask any human being which is better. Apub where u lifeless, gutless want to get drunk & ruin it for urself & others or a place of worship & tranquility. We muslims dont mind ur comments. It makes Islam Grow ever so faster. Keep spewing that hatred. The ACT of Spewing is bad but the outcome is exellent. I say Bring it on u losers in Life & after-life.
FAO Molvees
If our country is so bad for your purity than why don't you hop off to Saudi Arabia - your rant there will result in your tongue being chopped off and placed in uranus. I find it disgusting you spew such nonesense and worst in the name of a great faith. This plan is not good for all the community in Pendle - I hope you agree that Islam does not cause divisions but unites people around the world. Please Note: your spelling is awful and suggest you take some ESOL lessons. By the way am a muslim too and abhorr your views - their not islamic you idiot.
FAO Molvees
If our country is so bad for your purity than why don't you hop off to Saudi Arabia - your rant there will result in your tongue being chopped off and placed in uranus. I find it disgusting you spew such nonesense and worst in the name of a great faith. This plan is not good for all the community in Pendle - I hope you agree that Islam does not cause divisions but unites people around the world. Please Note: your spelling is awful and suggest you take some ESOL lessons. By the way am a muslim too and abhorr your views - their not islamic you idiot.
Posted by: oh my god, another racist **** on 3:07pm Fri 9 May 08
[quote][bold]molveees[/bold] wrote:
Get a life u ppl who are against the idea. Ask any human being which is better. Apub where u lifeless, gutless want to get drunk & ruin it for urself & others or a place of worship & tranquility. We muslims dont mind ur comments. It makes Islam Grow ever so faster. Keep spewing that hatred. The ACT of Spewing is bad but the outcome is exellent. I say Bring it on u losers in Life & after-life.[/quote] Why dont you **** off you smelly ****. And its us whites who are supposedly racist. It is our right as non-pakis to use our pubs for having a drink or too.
molveees wrote:
Get a life u ppl who are against the idea. Ask any human being which is better. Apub where u lifeless, gutless want to get drunk & ruin it for urself & others or a place of worship & tranquility. We muslims dont mind ur comments. It makes Islam Grow ever so faster. Keep spewing that hatred. The ACT of Spewing is bad but the outcome is exellent. I say Bring it on u losers in Life & after-life.
Why dont you **** off you smelly ****. And its us whites who are supposedly racist. It is our right as non-pakis to use our pubs for having a drink or too.
STOP IT...YOU CANT SPEAK YOUR MIND ON HERE!!!OR SPEAK OUT AGAINST THE ASIAN PUBLIC!!!GIVE OVER ITS ILLEGAL..SERIOUSLY NELSON IS ASIAN NOW,MUSLIM RUN!!SAD PEOPLE SAD TOWN
STOP IT...YOU CANT SPEAK YOUR MIND ON HERE!!!OR SPEAK OUT AGAINST THE ASIAN PUBLIC!!!GIVE OVER ITS ILLEGAL..SERIOUSLY NELSON IS ASIAN NOW,MUSLIM RUN!!SAD PEOPLE SAD TOWN
Posted by: non biased -non hating individual, nelson on 2:37pm Sat 10 May 08
get a grip all u sad full of hate ppl. im amazed @ the amount of bitterness u nelsoners have, seriosly how miserable and sad a life do u guys lead that u feel u have to take it out on the asian/ muslim community, u sad sad pathetic miserable shites. booo hoooo go drown ur sorrows elsewhere. hey maybe the pub???
get a grip all u sad full of hate ppl. im amazed @ the amount of bitterness u nelsoners have, seriosly how miserable and sad a life do u guys lead that u feel u have to take it out on the asian/ muslim community, u sad sad pathetic miserable shites. booo hoooo go drown ur sorrows elsewhere. hey maybe the pub???
Posted by: jacky bagtoy, burnley on 7:28pm Sat 10 May 08
EVERY1 HATES THEM..WHY THEY STILL HERE?WITH THERE BAKWARDS WAY OF LIFE/BRAINWASHED WOMEN..NO GIRL POWER WITH THIS SHOWER!!LOSERS TODDLE BACK OF TO YOUR CAVES IN THE MIDDLE EAST
EVERY1 HATES THEM..WHY THEY STILL HERE?WITH THERE BAKWARDS WAY OF LIFE/BRAINWASHED WOMEN..NO GIRL POWER WITH THIS SHOWER!!LOSERS TODDLE BACK OF TO YOUR CAVES IN THE MIDDLE EAST
Posted by: Badman, Nelson on 10:37pm Sun 11 May 08
We live in caves? You are just jealous most of us own the better houses and cars around here than you idiots who spend most of your lives and savings down the pub BOO HOO WE AINT SHOWING YOU NO SORROW YOU NOBHEAD! Haha caves in the middle east?? Get your head outa your bottom and stop dreaming. WayneKerr JUST TAKE OUT THE Y, E and K in his name it tells you all you need too know about him!
We live in caves? You are just jealous most of us own the better houses and cars around here than you idiots who spend most of your lives and savings down the pub BOO HOO WE AINT SHOWING YOU NO SORROW YOU NOBHEAD! Haha caves in the middle east?? Get your head outa your bottom and stop dreaming. WayneKerr JUST TAKE OUT THE Y, E and K in his name it tells you all you need too know about him!
[quote][bold]Badman[/bold] wrote:
We live in caves? You are just jealous most of us own the better houses and cars around here than you idiots who spend most of your lives and savings down the pub BOO HOO WE AINT SHOWING YOU NO SORROW YOU NOBHEAD! Haha caves in the middle east?? Get your head outa your bottom and stop dreaming. WayneKerr JUST TAKE OUT THE Y, E and K in his name it tells you all you need too know about him![/quote] Typically thick as two short plank Nelsoner - Now try working out why I refer to you like that you peinchowd marsden heights educated dimwit - oh my god you are one of the future teachers in this potentially backward warehouse.
And now that we know you cutha, you do live in that cave on forest street dimwit.
Badman wrote:
We live in caves? You are just jealous most of us own the better houses and cars around here than you idiots who spend most of your lives and savings down the pub BOO HOO WE AINT SHOWING YOU NO SORROW YOU NOBHEAD! Haha caves in the middle east?? Get your head outa your bottom and stop dreaming. WayneKerr JUST TAKE OUT THE Y, E and K in his name it tells you all you need too know about him!
Typically thick as two short plank Nelsoner - Now try working out why I refer to you like that you peinchowd marsden heights educated dimwit - oh my god you are one of the future teachers in this potentially backward warehouse.
And now that we know you cutha, you do live in that cave on forest street dimwit.
I duno what type of a maayadha we have here. We are on the topic of a mosque being built and this pewnchowda has time to come out with comments like this? Oh well its right il see your sister soon...
I duno what type of a maayadha we have here. We are on the topic of a mosque being built and this pewnchowda has time to come out with comments like this? Oh well its right il see your sister soon...
Apparently theres an islamic non alcoholic pub aswell...WHATS the friggin point?
Foookin ell, if you dont wanna drink lager then go to a cafe or this islamic al qaeeda community centre
Apparently theres an islamic non alcoholic pub aswell...WHATS the friggin point?
Foookin ell, if you dont wanna drink lager then go to a cafe or this islamic al qaeeda community centre
Posted by: donna, burnley on 12:08pm Tue 13 May 08
hang on a minute-if us 'whiteys' are so upset at what its going to be used for, why havent WE done something about it? its been standing derelict for years, but i dont know of any other applications for conversion. why is that? because you are all happy to sit on your arses and say nothing until something doesnt go the way you want it. grow up and get a life, if you want things to change around here you cant just sit on your arses and do nothing, you have no one but yourselves to blame.
i cant say i'm happy at what the building will be used for, but anything is better than letting it fester the way it is.
hang on a minute-if us 'whiteys' are so upset at what its going to be used for, why havent WE done something about it? its been standing derelict for years, but i dont know of any other applications for conversion. why is that? because you are all happy to sit on your arses and say nothing until something doesnt go the way you want it. grow up and get a life, if you want things to change around here you cant just sit on your arses and do nothing, you have no one but yourselves to blame.
i cant say i'm happy at what the building will be used for, but anything is better than letting it fester the way it is.
Posted by: charlotte, Burnley on 5:16pm Tue 13 May 08
I couldnt agree with you more Donna, that is what the problem is with us guys,we are quick to moan but not very quick to do anything about anything other than act like larger louts in burnley on a friday & saturday night and have our young girls being drunk out of their heads and embarassing themselves and not acting very womanly!!!
I couldnt agree with you more Donna, that is what the problem is with us guys,we are quick to moan but not very quick to do anything about anything other than act like larger louts in burnley on a friday & saturday night and have our young girls being drunk out of their heads and embarassing themselves and not acting very womanly!!!
Ok, fair enough nobody did think of anything else to put there. It makes me wonder why the council didnt turn it into something useful like a clinic or something benficial.
But when some nobhead islamic radical is saying that Britain will be an islamic state very soon, then its no wonder British people are in uproar that even more mosques ( which many mosques been proved as being breeding grounds for hatred and jihad against western civilisation )are being built in our nation.
Ok, fair enough nobody did think of anything else to put there. It makes me wonder why the council didnt turn it into something useful like a clinic or something benficial.
But when some nobhead islamic radical is saying that Britain will be an islamic state very soon, then its no wonder British people are in uproar that even more mosques ( which many mosques been proved as being breeding grounds for hatred and jihad against western civilisation )are being built in our nation.
Posted by: Naeem, Blackburn on 6:06pm Wed 14 May 08
I was saddenned by reading some of the negative comments made by the local people about this project. Thats exactly why this project is needed as it needs to show true Islam which is all about caring and giving to the muslim and non muslim community. I know the people involved and this is what they aspire to achieve, but unfortunately there is a lot of negativity associated with Islam, and little do people know of the love and compassion always shown by the prophet. Little do they know that the same religion that they mock revers Jesus and his mother Mary. To such an extent that a whole chapter has been named after that very special lady in the Quran (Muslims holy book) called chapter Mary. We need to stop looking through media or blinkered eyes and give these people a chance who ask nothing more than to help bring our community together. I for one fully support them and time will show how inclusive their vision is for the people of the area. May God bless all involved. Ameen.
I was saddenned by reading some of the negative comments made by the local people about this project. Thats exactly why this project is needed as it needs to show true Islam which is all about caring and giving to the muslim and non muslim community. I know the people involved and this is what they aspire to achieve, but unfortunately there is a lot of negativity associated with Islam, and little do people know of the love and compassion always shown by the prophet. Little do they know that the same religion that they mock revers Jesus and his mother Mary. To such an extent that a whole chapter has been named after that very special lady in the Quran (Muslims holy book) called chapter Mary. We need to stop looking through media or blinkered eyes and give these people a chance who ask nothing more than to help bring our community together. I for one fully support them and time will show how inclusive their vision is for the people of the area. May God bless all involved. Ameen.
Posted by: Ghufran Mehommd, Keighley on 10:15pm Wed 14 May 08
well I must say I have read some astounding stuff on here today!
I assume some of the comments posted are by Muslims and some by non-Muslims but honestly I can't tell which is which! They are all so full of venom!
To my Muslim brothers,
what is Islam? it is tolerance and respect for all other peoples, try to live up to this ideal of Islam and you might find that your non-Muslim neighbours are more tolerant of you.
To my non-Muslim brothers and sisters, Britain is known for its tolerance and acceptance of the other, remember what the Nazis represented?
I can't imagine that in this day and age there are so many ignorant views out there, blindly being led by the media.
I'm sorry that so many people have such a negative view of Islam, but you are basing it on what you see being done in the name of Islam, not on what Islam is.
Britain has a free education system unlike so much of the rest of the world therefore I would expect that the ordinary guy on the street is able to make choices about what he believes rather than being led by a ring through the nose. As for the Mosque, well those involved are doing the community a service. They are renovating a grade 2 listed building with money collected from family, friends and the community. Is this wrong? They live here, they will die here as will we all. this is our country as much as it is anybody's and we love it and will die for it.
Rule Britannia!!
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well I must say I have read some astounding stuff on here today!
I assume some of the comments posted are by Muslims and some by non-Muslims but honestly I can't tell which is which! They are all so full of venom!
To my Muslim brothers,
what is Islam? it is tolerance and respect for all other peoples, try to live up to this ideal of Islam and you might find that your non-Muslim neighbours are more tolerant of you.
To my non-Muslim brothers and sisters, Britain is known for its tolerance and acceptance of the other, remember what the Nazis represented?
I can't imagine that in this day and age there are so many ignorant views out there, blindly being led by the media.
I'm sorry that so many people have such a negative view of Islam, but you are basing it on what you see being done in the name of Islam, not on what Islam is.
Britain has a free education system unlike so much of the rest of the world therefore I would expect that the ordinary guy on the street is able to make choices about what he believes rather than being led by a ring through the nose. As for the Mosque, well those involved are doing the community a service. They are renovating a grade 2 listed building with money collected from family, friends and the community. Is this wrong? They live here, they will die here as will we all. this is our country as much as it is anybody's and we love it and will die for it.
Rule Britannia!!
Posted by: Blimey, Nelson on 10:51pm Wed 14 May 08
[quote][bold]Danny[/bold] wrote:
Ok, fair enough nobody did think of anything else to put there. It makes me wonder why the council didnt turn it into something useful like a clinic or something benficial.
But when some nobhead islamic radical is saying that Britain will be an islamic state very soon, then its no wonder British people are in uproar that even more mosques ( which many mosques been proved as being breeding grounds for hatred and jihad against western civilisation )are being built in our nation.[/quote] You want a 'clinic'? Like we don't already have a psychotic clinic on leeds road - im sorry, lets build another fortress for the druggies or something whom are rapidly spreading in the town.
No one has a problem with something lying there lifelessly - but when somebody puts a claim on it everybody jumps on the bandwagon and claims its theirs.
Get a grip - get out more - and try to understand in your not so spacious skulls that you're living in a 'mixed' country - if you're so white then grab a club and start beating yourself with it the way 'whites' were notorious for not so long ago. See - the racist argument is never ending.
For God's sake get on with your lives and stop interfering in matters which aren't going to make a difference to you anyway.
Building empty or used - how many of you actually cared before this?!
Danny wrote:
Ok, fair enough nobody did think of anything else to put there. It makes me wonder why the council didnt turn it into something useful like a clinic or something benficial.
But when some nobhead islamic radical is saying that Britain will be an islamic state very soon, then its no wonder British people are in uproar that even more mosques ( which many mosques been proved as being breeding grounds for hatred and jihad against western civilisation )are being built in our nation.
You want a 'clinic'? Like we don't already have a psychotic clinic on leeds road - im sorry, lets build another fortress for the druggies or something whom are rapidly spreading in the town.
No one has a problem with something lying there lifelessly - but when somebody puts a claim on it everybody jumps on the bandwagon and claims its theirs.
Get a grip - get out more - and try to understand in your not so spacious skulls that you're living in a 'mixed' country - if you're so white then grab a club and start beating yourself with it the way 'whites' were notorious for not so long ago. See - the racist argument is never ending.
For God's sake get on with your lives and stop interfering in matters which aren't going to make a difference to you anyway.
Building empty or used - how many of you actually cared before this?!
Posted by: Nelson muslim, Nelson on 10:07am Thu 15 May 08
I was saddened by reading some of the negative comments made by the local people about this project. Therefore this project is needed to full completion inshallah in order to show the true Islam about how Islam tells humankind about being caring and loving to Muslims as well as non Muslims. Also the friend who posted the comment about this project being run by UK Islamic mission which group supposedly came on dispatches is also a charity which provides relief to disaster struck areas, therefore showing you the fact that this group provides and is involved with the care of humanity.
Coming to the building that is being renovated is a eyesore and it needs something doing to it as it will make Nelson a better place and all in all IT WILL KEEP THE COMMUNITY TOGETHER AS IT WILL PROVIDE FOR THE MUSLIM AND NON-MUSLIM COMMUNITY AND I FULLY SUPPORT THIS PROJECT.
I was saddened by reading some of the negative comments made by the local people about this project. Therefore this project is needed to full completion inshallah in order to show the true Islam about how Islam tells humankind about being caring and loving to Muslims as well as non Muslims. Also the friend who posted the comment about this project being run by UK Islamic mission which group supposedly came on dispatches is also a charity which provides relief to disaster struck areas, therefore showing you the fact that this group provides and is involved with the care of humanity.
Coming to the building that is being renovated is a eyesore and it needs something doing to it as it will make Nelson a better place and all in all IT WILL KEEP THE COMMUNITY TOGETHER AS IT WILL PROVIDE FOR THE MUSLIM AND NON-MUSLIM COMMUNITY AND I FULLY SUPPORT THIS PROJECT.
Posted by: TRUE NELSONER, NELSON on 4:08pm Thu 15 May 08
I am a resident in Nelson, I am also Muslim. To be frankly honest I am sick and tired of all these mosques and Islamic schools being built in our communities as in reality all that they are causing is further divisiveness. They are already 6 mosques in Nelson, how many more do we need??? Nelson IS BECOMING A MINI PAKISTAN and it is about time that the council stop pandering to the requests of the asian community but take a wholistic view otherwise they will be more of an influence from parties such as the BNP in the area. If the muslim community actually practiced what it preaches then they would be greater unity with the wider community. Mosques these days are just 4 walls with a dome built on top!!! There is alot of problems with the Muslim youth of today that these mosques are not actually tackling, to be honest they have no influence over anything!!! Enough of this political correctness and start looking at the bigger picture Pendle Council!!!
I am a resident in Nelson, I am also Muslim. To be frankly honest I am sick and tired of all these mosques and Islamic schools being built in our communities as in reality all that they are causing is further divisiveness. They are already 6 mosques in Nelson, how many more do we need??? Nelson IS BECOMING A MINI PAKISTAN and it is about time that the council stop pandering to the requests of the asian community but take a wholistic view otherwise they will be more of an influence from parties such as the BNP in the area. If the muslim community actually practiced what it preaches then they would be greater unity with the wider community. Mosques these days are just 4 walls with a dome built on top!!! There is alot of problems with the Muslim youth of today that these mosques are not actually tackling, to be honest they have no influence over anything!!! Enough of this political correctness and start looking at the bigger picture Pendle Council!!!
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