'Worst street in East Lancashire' being flattened (From Lancashire Telegraph)

obviously hav,nt been too FIR STREET NELSON THEN???

Several years ago a local council moved tenants out of multi-storey flats into a new development on the outskirts of the town. Within three years it had become a ghetto. These houses on Spring Street are solidly built, on the southern edge of the twon ideally placed for both local amenities and nearby countryside. There was nothing wrong with these houses.
By creating a new development in its place but not tackling the anti-social behaviour of the residents, all the council and its partners are doing is giving these people temporarily imporved accommodation in which they can carry out their lawlessness and petty criminality.
Mr Grayson is right to point to the fine social history of those houses but those days are long gone. people with no self-respect are highly unlikely to have any respect for property however modern and appliance-filled it might be.
The council and private landlords need to adopt a far more draconian approach to anti-social behaviour and failure to maintain properties to acceptable standards.

I agree with most of that Badref but the point you make about those houses is out of date. They were far from solid, the shear number of fires and years left exposed to the elements saw to that.

The original planning application stated 'Executive housing'.. it would be a massive shame if they back peddle and choose to make the area into a Mini-Shad.

The local councillors surely have some weight to throw when it comes to this.. Rishton needs to stop taking on the **** that breeds in Blackburn.

Of course the houses needed to be demolished you are correct. My point was that with care these houses could have been habitable for future generations just like hundreds of other terraced properties in the town where the residents actually take some pride in their dwellings

badref wrote:
Several years ago a local council moved tenants out of multi-storey flats into a new development on the outskirts of the town. Within three years it had become a ghetto. These houses on Spring Street are solidly built, on the southern edge of the twon ideally placed for both local amenities and nearby countryside. There was nothing wrong with these houses.
By creating a new development in its place but not tackling the anti-social behaviour of the residents, all the council and its partners are doing is giving these people temporarily imporved accommodation in which they can carry out their lawlessness and petty criminality.
Mr Grayson is right to point to the fine social history of those houses but those days are long gone. people with no self-respect are highly unlikely to have any respect for property however modern and appliance-filled it might be.
The council and private landlords need to adopt a far more draconian approach to anti-social behaviour and failure to maintain properties to acceptable standards.

Good comment.

It's not houses that makes slums but the people that live in them.

It's a disgrace to let proper houses like this get demolished ... they don't make them like this anymore.

What they put up nowadays won't last half as long.

What they did in Nelson to renovate the terraced houses was great - but most developers seem to prefer to throw up some flimsy new-builds and pocket the cash.

im glad they dont make them like that anymore ive got rats in my terraced house they run over my face when im asleep

Oh, yeah? Come and cast your eye over Berkeley Street, Brierfield, then. Once part of an estate of four short terraced streets, the Council decided years ago to demolish the lot. They eventually did so....apart from SEVEN houses (only two of which are lived in) in the middle of a block that they irrationally decided to retain, despite their being under a CPO. What an eyesore they are. Council decisions...... you couldn't make it up!

hairy mary wrote:
im glad they dont make them like that anymore ive got rats in my terraced house they run over my face when im asleep

That's a rat problem... something that needs addressing whether you live in a farm house, terraced house, new build, stately home or Downing Street.

If Buckingham Palace has rats the solution isn't to knock it down and put up a cheap replacement.

The terraced houses were built to a much better standard than what they throw up now... to knock them down rather than renovate is a dumb solution.

If you have rats running over your face at night you think demolishing the street is the solution? No wonder stuff like this happens when there's people that think like that. Unbelievable.

DJ_Jaybee wrote:

hairy mary wrote:
im glad they dont make them like that anymore ive got rats in my terraced house they run over my face when im asleep

That's a rat problem... something that needs addressing whether you live in a farm house, terraced house, new build, stately home or Downing Street.

If Buckingham Palace has rats the solution isn't to knock it down and put up a cheap replacement.

The terraced houses were built to a much better standard than what they throw up now... to knock them down rather than renovate is a dumb solution.

If you have rats running over your face at night you think demolishing the street is the solution? No wonder stuff like this happens when there's people that think like that. Unbelievable.

Calm down dj haha, hairy is a freestyle random commenter who just throws out random, amusing wierdities lol.
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on the construction subject though, I have been told by more than one developer that modern construction is designed and costed to be of a quality that has a realistic life expectancy of 25-30 years, which is curiously just about the length of a mortgage, interesting ...... I hate new builds and would never have one unless i did it myself. shoddy and characterless boxes mostly!!

badref wrote:
Of course the houses needed to be demolished you are correct. My point was that with care these houses could have been habitable for future generations just like hundreds of other terraced properties in the town where the residents actually take some pride in their dwellings

Deffinitely agree, the landlords in that area don't care though. My only wish is that the council has done everything in it's power to financially punish them for this outrage. (Those houses - especially the end one looked great to me)

Having the experience of terraced and new build properties I feel strongly that too many terraced properties are being demolished for no good reason. The Nelson regeneration project is a sensible method of recycling good housing stock, clad in Yorkshire sandstone, holding a Welsh slate roof whilst being brought up to latest U values (thermal resistivity), and expanded to allow for todays family needs!! . Lets face it , many people who live in terraced homes either don't want a garden or can't be bothered with one. so the next step is a town house that these days barely allows you the opportunity to swing a cat in any of the available rooms squeezed in!

badref wrote:
Of course the houses needed to be demolished you are correct. My point was that with care these houses could have been habitable for future generations just like hundreds of other terraced properties in the town where the residents actually take some pride in their dwellings

I live 50 yards from where these houses were and my gut feeling was that renovation was the best option. However, the houses were in extremely poor condition and had become dangerously unsafe to the point where the road had to be blocked off during the icy weather and people were forced to drive down back alleys. The row has been like this for a decade and allowed to fall into disrepair by the owners but renovation would have involved council spending to the tune of around £750k which we simply don't have. I'm always sad to see terraced housing demolished (particularly when there really is nothing wrong with it) but in this instance it was the most sensible option.

haha, it is/was a shithole tbh though