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Calls for urgent action at 'nightmare' traffic hotspot between Rossendale and Blackburn

CALLS have been made for authorities to work together on solving problems at a ‘nightmare’ junction.

Residents in Belthorn and county councillor Peter Britcliffe claim urgent action is needed at an congestion hot spot ‘before a child is hurt’.

Traffic stretching back on Grane Road, between Blackburn and Haslingden, from the Guide junction of the M65 is currently causing some drivers to use the adjacent road through Belthorn village to jump long queues.

The community said Belthorn Road has been turned into a ‘rat run’ since a new traffic lights system was put in place at junction five last year.

Village drivers said they also end up trapped in Belthorn for up to half an hour in the mornings as they are mistaken for queue jumpers by drivers who refuse to let them out.

Suggestions towards making mornings easier for Belthorn folk have ranged from making the road one way or blocking access at one end.

Coun Britcliffe claims action is being delayed because the traffic lights are under Blackburn with Darwen Council control whilst the Grane Road is covered by Lancashire County Council.

He said: “The different authorities must get together to solve the traffic issues. The time has come for action and some resolution brought regarding these issues. It will be too late when a child is killed.”

However Blackburn with Darwen cabinet member for highways, Coun Dave Harling, said officers from both councils were urgently trying to reach a solution.

He said: “We are aware of this very serious problem. It is quite complex because it affects a motorway roundabout, so we have to also have the agreement of the Highways Agency. It is not as simple as either us or LCC saying ‘we want this to happen’.

“Blackburn officers are in urgent talks with both LCC and the HA to see what can be done. Dangerous or erratic driving is inexcusable and I would say is a matter for police.”

A spokesman for LCC said a number of meetings had been held and solutions such as changing light times were being trialled by the Highways Agency.

Belthorn resident John Creasey said: “It is a small village and and just not suited to this type of traffic.”

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8:32am Sat 18 Feb 12

s_smith says...

Well Councillor Peter Britcliffe needs to get his facts right. I have spoken to Blackburn Council before about these lights and they are not theirs, but the Highways Agency's; it was also them that put the new white lines down which is causing most of the problem.
Well Councillor Peter Britcliffe needs to get his facts right. I have spoken to Blackburn Council before about these lights and they are not theirs, but the Highways Agency's; it was also them that put the new white lines down which is causing most of the problem. s_smith
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9:20am Sat 18 Feb 12

CAG1 says...

Is it the traffic they are worried about or the fact they don't want a chavvy KFC next door? Sounds to me they are in the NIMBY brigade.
Is it the traffic they are worried about or the fact they don't want a chavvy KFC next door? Sounds to me they are in the NIMBY brigade. CAG1
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9:44am Sat 18 Feb 12

living the end times in BB1 says...

s_smith wrote:
Well Councillor Peter Britcliffe needs to get his facts right. I have spoken to Blackburn Council before about these lights and they are not theirs, but the Highways Agency's; it was also them that put the new white lines down which is causing most of the problem.
some drivers use the adjacent road through Belthorn village to jump long queues.

Can a tractor not breakdown each morning or some other kind of obstruction at the point where they enter the village to queue jump..? 'at least until after the rush hour or the villagers who need to escape Belthorn in the morning have done so'..

Coun Britcliffe claims action is being delayed because the traffic lights are under Blackburn with Darwen Council control whilst the Grane Road is covered by Lancashire County Council.

Its probably the LCC & BWD white collar staff speeding through the village queue jumping late for work.
[quote][p][bold]s_smith[/bold] wrote: Well Councillor Peter Britcliffe needs to get his facts right. I have spoken to Blackburn Council before about these lights and they are not theirs, but the Highways Agency's; it was also them that put the new white lines down which is causing most of the problem.[/p][/quote]some drivers use the adjacent road through Belthorn village to jump long queues. Can a tractor not breakdown each morning or some other kind of obstruction at the point where they enter the village to queue jump..? 'at least until after the rush hour or the villagers who need to escape Belthorn in the morning have done so'.. Coun Britcliffe claims action is being delayed because the traffic lights are under Blackburn with Darwen Council control whilst the Grane Road is covered by Lancashire County Council. Its probably the LCC & BWD white collar staff speeding through the village queue jumping late for work. living the end times in BB1
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10:15am Sat 18 Feb 12

burner says...

CAG1 wrote:
Is it the traffic they are worried about or the fact they don't want a chavvy KFC next door? Sounds to me they are in the NIMBY brigade.
Sorry, CAG, you are MILES off course. This is Grane Road, NOT Preston New Road . . . . you had a bad night? Wrong story!!! You should apologise to these villagers.
[quote][p][bold]CAG1[/bold] wrote: Is it the traffic they are worried about or the fact they don't want a chavvy KFC next door? Sounds to me they are in the NIMBY brigade.[/p][/quote]Sorry, CAG, you are MILES off course. This is Grane Road, NOT Preston New Road . . . . you had a bad night? Wrong story!!! You should apologise to these villagers. burner
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12:10pm Sat 18 Feb 12

louderfasterlonger says...

burner wrote:
CAG1 wrote:
Is it the traffic they are worried about or the fact they don't want a chavvy KFC next door? Sounds to me they are in the NIMBY brigade.
Sorry, CAG, you are MILES off course. This is Grane Road, NOT Preston New Road . . . . you had a bad night? Wrong story!!! You should apologise to these villagers.
Slightly confused me too....
STEP 1 Know your drinking limitations.
STEP 2 Do not log on when said limitations have been exceeded.
[quote][p][bold]burner[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CAG1[/bold] wrote: Is it the traffic they are worried about or the fact they don't want a chavvy KFC next door? Sounds to me they are in the NIMBY brigade.[/p][/quote]Sorry, CAG, you are MILES off course. This is Grane Road, NOT Preston New Road . . . . you had a bad night? Wrong story!!! You should apologise to these villagers.[/p][/quote]Slightly confused me too.... STEP 1 Know your drinking limitations. STEP 2 Do not log on when said limitations have been exceeded. louderfasterlonger
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1:33pm Sat 18 Feb 12

sean_brfc says...

CAG1 wrote:
Is it the traffic they are worried about or the fact they don't want a chavvy KFC next door? Sounds to me they are in the NIMBY brigade.
Why shouldn't they be?
[quote][p][bold]CAG1[/bold] wrote: Is it the traffic they are worried about or the fact they don't want a chavvy KFC next door? Sounds to me they are in the NIMBY brigade.[/p][/quote]Why shouldn't they be? sean_brfc
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1:43pm Sat 18 Feb 12

burner says...

Sorry, sean, worried about traffic at Belthorn or KFC near Mellor? Which?
Sorry, sean, worried about traffic at Belthorn or KFC near Mellor? Which? burner
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1:51pm Sat 18 Feb 12

disgusted tunbridge wells says...

Nobody cuts through Belthorn ! The Grane needs to be two lanes wide as it descends through the cutting towards the roundabout and why on Earth did somebody start painting pointless white lines everywhere ?
Nobody cuts through Belthorn ! The Grane needs to be two lanes wide as it descends through the cutting towards the roundabout and why on Earth did somebody start painting pointless white lines everywhere ? disgusted tunbridge wells
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3:07pm Sat 18 Feb 12

living the end times in BB1 says...

disgusted tunbridge wells wrote:
Nobody cuts through Belthorn ! The Grane needs to be two lanes wide as it descends through the cutting towards the roundabout and why on Earth did somebody start painting pointless white lines everywhere ?
So all the people who live in Belthorn are liers and the LET are reporting problems that don't exist just to confuse the public of east Lancashire.
[quote][p][bold]disgusted tunbridge wells[/bold] wrote: Nobody cuts through Belthorn ! The Grane needs to be two lanes wide as it descends through the cutting towards the roundabout and why on Earth did somebody start painting pointless white lines everywhere ?[/p][/quote]So all the people who live in Belthorn are liers and the LET are reporting problems that don't exist just to confuse the public of east Lancashire. living the end times in BB1
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4:29pm Sat 18 Feb 12

Your ferret stinks says...

Feel sorry for the residents of Belthorn and a tractor breaking down each morning from 7:30 till 9:00 would really highlight the case.

At what point are lights deemed to be the correct course of action on a roundabout as i'm of an opinion that they actually cause the congestion in many cases, how often have you been sat at lights when it's quite safe to go and all the lights are on red in all directions, then as soon as they go green 5 cars go though and they are red again! It's really no wonder that you see more and more people just blatently driving through them risking their licence and an accident.
So until the decission is made on what to do with the situation why not try turning them off for a week and let the villagers of Belthorn be the judge.

Is it me or are there more and more stories coming on here that you cannot comment on?
Feel sorry for the residents of Belthorn and a tractor breaking down each morning from 7:30 till 9:00 would really highlight the case. At what point are lights deemed to be the correct course of action on a roundabout as i'm of an opinion that they actually cause the congestion in many cases, how often have you been sat at lights when it's quite safe to go and all the lights are on red in all directions, then as soon as they go green 5 cars go though and they are red again! It's really no wonder that you see more and more people just blatently driving through them risking their licence and an accident. So until the decission is made on what to do with the situation why not try turning them off for a week and let the villagers of Belthorn be the judge. Is it me or are there more and more stories coming on here that you cannot comment on? Your ferret stinks
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4:36pm Sat 18 Feb 12

burner says...

All about the legals, y f s. . . . oh, and good idea about trying a while without lights and let the Belthorn folk ( and traffic management officials ) judge. May common sense rule !!! . . . . . not the case with Mr Kean - something we can only comment on in such a sly, subversive manner.
All about the legals, y f s. . . . oh, and good idea about trying a while without lights and let the Belthorn folk ( and traffic management officials ) judge. May common sense rule !!! . . . . . not the case with Mr Kean - something we can only comment on in such a sly, subversive manner. burner
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4:46pm Sat 18 Feb 12

Sutty the wise says...

It needs a filter left lane onto the west-bound M65. Coming from Blackburn isn't much better. How much would it cost to replace the footbridge with a road bridge on the original road?
It needs a filter left lane onto the west-bound M65. Coming from Blackburn isn't much better. How much would it cost to replace the footbridge with a road bridge on the original road? Sutty the wise
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4:53pm Sat 18 Feb 12

Sutty the wise says...

If you do a search about Grane Road you can see that this problem was even highlighted in October 1999 as urgent, and that was before the new hospital etc
If you do a search about Grane Road you can see that this problem was even highlighted in October 1999 as urgent, and that was before the new hospital etc Sutty the wise
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11:09pm Sat 18 Feb 12

sean_brfc says...

burner wrote:
Sorry, sean, worried about traffic at Belthorn or KFC near Mellor? Which?
The traffic in particular, but people have a right to complain about 'chavvy KFCs' in their backyard. Whether they get their own way or not is another matter. Not everyone can.
[quote][p][bold]burner[/bold] wrote: Sorry, sean, worried about traffic at Belthorn or KFC near Mellor? Which?[/p][/quote]The traffic in particular, but people have a right to complain about 'chavvy KFCs' in their backyard. Whether they get their own way or not is another matter. Not everyone can. sean_brfc
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6:59am Sun 19 Feb 12

tosh103 says...

Why don't these sill drivers just use the A56 and the M65 would prob be quicker now!
Why don't these sill drivers just use the A56 and the M65 would prob be quicker now! tosh103
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1:28pm Mon 20 Feb 12

JamesLT says...

There are several issues here.
The main problem is caused by traffic lights on the motorway roundabout. Until a change is made to allow traffic coming off the grane road to get on to the roundabout, the people of Belthorn will suffer long delays getting on to the motorway or into Blackburn. The current situation is ridiculous. Either the phasing of the motorway lights must be changed or new lights added for people coming off the Grane road to allow them some time to get on to the roundabout.
Othe issues:-
1)Too many people use the Grane road as a rat run. It is not at all suitable for the amount of traffic, which is carries. A way needs to be found to divert traffic onto the A56, which, as a dual carriageway can carry heavy traffic.
2)Much of the traffic in Belthorn has been caused by the expansion of the primary school. When my son attended the school there were 60 pupils. Now there are 170+. It is a good school and many people want to send their children there but there was a complete lack of forethought and planning when the expansion of the school was allowed. There are not enough people in Belthorn to require 170 primary school places so it is obvious that many parents would be drving into Belthorn twice a day with their offspring. For Belthorn residents, like myself, there are often long delays getting through the village at dropping off and picking up times. There is not nearly enough parking for all these cars. The parents, anxious to get to school on time or to pick up their offspring have little or no consideration for the people who actually live here!! Many of the people making the most fuss about the traffic in Belthorn are these 'incomers'. One solution would be to actually cut the size of the school and limit it primarily to children of Belthorn residents!! Another might be to buy a bit of land to supply some parking.
Let's get the Motorway lights changed first, then look at the other problems.
There are several issues here. The main problem is caused by traffic lights on the motorway roundabout. Until a change is made to allow traffic coming off the grane road to get on to the roundabout, the people of Belthorn will suffer long delays getting on to the motorway or into Blackburn. The current situation is ridiculous. Either the phasing of the motorway lights must be changed or new lights added for people coming off the Grane road to allow them some time to get on to the roundabout. Othe issues:- 1)Too many people use the Grane road as a rat run. It is not at all suitable for the amount of traffic, which is carries. A way needs to be found to divert traffic onto the A56, which, as a dual carriageway can carry heavy traffic. 2)Much of the traffic in Belthorn has been caused by the expansion of the primary school. When my son attended the school there were 60 pupils. Now there are 170+. It is a good school and many people want to send their children there but there was a complete lack of forethought and planning when the expansion of the school was allowed. There are not enough people in Belthorn to require 170 primary school places so it is obvious that many parents would be drving into Belthorn twice a day with their offspring. For Belthorn residents, like myself, there are often long delays getting through the village at dropping off and picking up times. There is not nearly enough parking for all these cars. The parents, anxious to get to school on time or to pick up their offspring have little or no consideration for the people who actually live here!! Many of the people making the most fuss about the traffic in Belthorn are these 'incomers'. One solution would be to actually cut the size of the school and limit it primarily to children of Belthorn residents!! Another might be to buy a bit of land to supply some parking. Let's get the Motorway lights changed first, then look at the other problems. JamesLT
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1:34pm Mon 20 Feb 12

disgusted tunbridge wells says...

Why provide parking for ten minutes a day, 5 days a week, that wouldn't make sense and would cost a fortune, who allowed the school to expand ?
Why provide parking for ten minutes a day, 5 days a week, that wouldn't make sense and would cost a fortune, who allowed the school to expand ? disgusted tunbridge wells
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9:19pm Tue 6 Mar 12

Tigi0407 says...

I'm sorry but to suggest a cut in the size of the school and only allow children of residents of Belthorn is ridiculous. If the school was limited to Beltorn residents only there would be no point having a school there at all.
I'm sorry but to suggest a cut in the size of the school and only allow children of residents of Belthorn is ridiculous. If the school was limited to Beltorn residents only there would be no point having a school there at all. Tigi0407
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