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    Lancashire Police top brass public meetings to be scrapped

    PUBLIC meetings held by police bosses are set to be scrapped later this year - because hardly anyone goes to them.

    Lancashire Police Authority (LPA) top brass are set to axe the regular meetings which are designed to allow residents to question senior officers over policing in their area.

    Members want to look at alternatives, including politcal-style focus groups, because the meetings are often poorly attended and are seen as ineffective compared with Police and Community Together (PACT) meetings.

    Figures show that an average of 21 people sat through each of the last five LPA meetings in Eastern division, covering Blackburn, Darwen, Hyndburn and Ribble Valley, while 13 residents typically turned up in Pennine division, covering Burnley, Pendle and Rossendale.

    But numbers are often much lower. Only eight people sat through the February 2007 meeting in Hyndburn borough and a Rossendale meeting in February had just two members of the public present.

    Coun Malcolm Doherty, who chairs the LPA and also sits on Blackburn with Darwen Council, said: "What we are thinking of doing is finding other ways of consulting the public.

    "We are looking at all sorts of things but we have not decided yet.

    "One of the problems with the meetings is that people are getting used to having direct contact with police at PACT meetings and they find that useful.

    "With the public meetings we move around, so we go somewhere else after people have raised issues and it just goes round in circles - they never come to conclusions.

    "We are looking at different ways of talking to the public but we have not made any decisions yet."

    Senior police are also believed to prefer PACT meetings, where local PCs and PCSOs meet residents rather than top ranking officers.

    Insp Paul Goodall, from Blackburn police, said: "I think some decisions need to be made about the value of the police authority meetings and whether they have been superseded by others, such as PACT meetings, that take place on a monthly basis.

    "We do a lot of work through our PACT meetings and those have evolved into other meetings."

    Jon Puttock, chief inspector of the Pennine division, said: "The police authority meetings are helpful to us because we have got members of the community there telling us where to concentrate our resources.

    "Sometimes you get 30 or 40 people there but sometimes there's only a handful there.

    "People will only come if they have got real issues and it may be a good sign if they don't come."

    12:41pm Sunday 11th May 2008

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    Posted by: THE REAL TOP CAT, burnley on 1:09pm Sun 11 May 08
    cops are useless,all the nation knows,,we had an incedent in rosegrove saturday(1 everynight)i rang the useless cops up,nothing in 30 mins,rang back,"WERE BUSY!)WHY DO THEY BOTHER..we should stop paying polltax till its sorted...
    Posted by: MIKEOXLONG on 1:29pm Sun 11 May 08
    THE REAL TOP CAT wrote:
    cops are useless,all the nation knows,,we had an incedent in rosegrove saturday(1 everynight)i rang the useless cops up,nothing in 30 mins,rang back,"WERE BUSY!)WHY DO THEY BOTHER..we should stop paying polltax till its sorted...
    Oh well if the cops didnt respond to your call in 30 mins then the cops nationwide must be useless. You narrow minded nob!

    If you had a bad experience with a joiner or a builder would all builders and joiners be useless?
    Is it beyond your comprehension to understand that the Police DO actually get busy? therefore they have to prioritise incidents so if your rining up telling them that mrs miggins' dog is dropping a dreadnaught on your garden at half ten on a saturday night then it will be some time before they get round to you because they'll be busy dealing with all the drunken tools in the town centre.
    Get a grip, I bet you've bever paid poll tax in your life you loser
    Posted by: THE REAL TOP CAT, burnley on 1:48pm Sun 11 May 08
    MIKEOXLONG..CLOWN!!!
    1 BAD EXPIERENCE??AND YOU KNOW ME???EVERY WEEKEND I SAID!!YOU FOOL..I EARN MORE IN A WEEK THAN YOU DO IN A MONTH OF STACKING SHELVES YOU WASTER..
    Posted by: THE REAL TOP CAT, burnley on 1:54pm Sun 11 May 08
    YOU STILL AT ASDA STAKING SHELVES MIKEOXLONG??YOU STILL WITH YOUR YOUNG FELLA???SORT YOUR LIFE OUT!!ITS PEOPLE LIKE YOU THAT DRAG THE COUNTRY DOWN,WITH YOUR SOUPED UP ASTRA AND 3 BULL MASTIFFS,MUSIC BLARING FROM THE BEDSIT
    Posted by: bert, bly on 4:40pm Sun 11 May 08
    mikeoxlong or is that stringalong your the nob head i dont know if its cops fault or goverment policies but in my own experience cops dont turn up till hours later i have no axe to grind have never been in trouble with the police but truth is truth ok nob
    Posted by: THE REAL TOP CAT, burnley on 5:41pm Sun 11 May 08
    NICE 1 BERT,WE HAVE PROBS EVERYWEEK WITH KNOBS IN GROVE,AND POLICE DONT SEEM INTERESTED,EVEN SWITCHBOARD PEOPLE SEEM GORMLESS
    Posted by: observer, Not Burnley, thank God!! on 7:42pm Sun 11 May 08
    It can't be easy for the constabulary to deal with the likes of the ignorant burnley plonkers posting on here. Is it cause your all inbred or is it something in the beer?
    Posted by: soap opera, coronation st on 7:44pm Sun 11 May 08
    not long ago i reported youths shooting on the canal near asda blackburn.once i said they were of foreign apperance the operator lost interest.by the time she had finished asking me a dozen questions they had gone.when i rung the next day to complain they said "we have no record of your phonecall so we cannot do anything over your complant" one way of keeping the figures down
    Posted by: stooball66, backburn on 8:01am Mon 12 May 08
    the only time you ever see a pig is when they have these meetings oh and possibly when there stash of the green weed is running low
    Posted by: chris, barnoldswick on 2:15pm Mon 12 May 08
    What a well balanced reasoned discussion,well done all. The police shoulnt be wasting their time with these meetings, they have more important things to be getting on with.
    Posted by: marje, blackburn on 4:19pm Mon 12 May 08
    My personal experience and that of my neighbours over a lengthy period of time is that PACT meetings are overall mostly ineffective. They are simply a way of enabling the Police and the Council to slant the statitics they report to Government. If you carrying on reporting incidents they begin to resent how it looks in their figures to have the problems still unresolved and try to palm you off to mediation.. I wouldn't attend them as it simply stirs up things with your neighbours in the wider district and makes you a target in the end. Sadly, I don't know anyone who was helped overall.
    Posted by: WayneKerr on 8:31pm Mon 12 May 08
    stooball66 wrote:
    the only time you ever see a pig is when they have these meetings oh and possibly when there stash of the green weed is running low
    You really are a nob!

    You clearly have nothing of any significance to contribute to this article or life in general.

    Why not end it all now?

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