VOTERS across East Lancashire went to the polls in elections that could change the political landscape of the region.
All local councils, except for Lancashire, South Ribble and Ribble Valley, took part, with a third of all council seats up for grabs.
All results are now in. Click on the links below for the full results and analysis.
Ramsbottom results
4:27pm Friday 2nd May 2008
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CommentPosted by: Unlucky on 12:05pm Thu 1 May 08
It great being given the opportunity to vote. It's just a shame the ballot cards haven't arrived so we can't vote. I wonder how many more have been 'lost' in the post. Oh, well off to the polling station to see if I can vote without my card. Will be pi**ed off if I can and will be asking where my card went.
It great being given the opportunity to vote. It's just a shame the ballot cards haven't arrived so we can't vote. I wonder how many more have been 'lost' in the post. Oh, well off to the polling station to see if I can vote without my card. Will be pi**ed off if I can and will be asking where my card went.
Posted by: Robert Mugabe, Zimbabwe on 12:25pm Thu 1 May 08
I have your card.
Posted by: kb, stacksteads on 12:28pm Thu 1 May 08
CLASSIC COMMENT!
Posted by: Not Pleased, Shadsworth on 12:45pm Thu 1 May 08
The only reason that I'm p*ssed off is that I only have the choice to either vote New Labour or bloody Conservative;talk about a wasted vote...
The only reason that I'm p*ssed off is that I only have the choice to either vote New Labour or bloody Conservative;talk about a wasted vote...
Posted by: caz, burnley on 12:51pm Thu 1 May 08
Reading comment above, it is well worth reminding people that the only important bit is to be registered to vote.
The card is merely a reminder and no part of the legal process.
Reading comment above, it is well worth reminding people that the only important bit is to be registered to vote.
The card is merely a reminder and no part of the legal process.
Posted by: Unlucky on 12:59pm Thu 1 May 08
Mr Mugabe, you can have it. I still think you don't have enough, a bit like Labour here. (hopefully :) If I only have 2 to pick from it makes my decision a lot easier. Ummmm, which one. Where did BNP go?
Mr Mugabe, you can have it. I still think you don't have enough, a bit like Labour here. (hopefully :) If I only have 2 to pick from it makes my decision a lot easier. Ummmm, which one. Where did BNP go?
Posted by: Not Pleased, Shadsworth on 1:06pm Thu 1 May 08
[quote][bold]Unlucky[/bold] wrote:
Mr Mugabe, you can have it. I still think you don't have enough, a bit like Labour here. (hopefully :) If I only have 2 to pick from it makes my decision a lot easier. Ummmm, which one. Where did BNP go?[/quote] I'm not a BNP supporter,so the fact that they are not represented is irrelevant.
I just find it infuriating that I am now press-ganged into voting for either New Labour,who's present form leaves nothing to the imagination,and the Conservative Party who seem so out of touch with the area,they may as well be on Mars...
Unlucky wrote:
Mr Mugabe, you can have it. I still think you don't have enough, a bit like Labour here. (hopefully :) If I only have 2 to pick from it makes my decision a lot easier. Ummmm, which one. Where did BNP go?
I'm not a BNP supporter,so the fact that they are not represented is irrelevant.
I just find it infuriating that I am now press-ganged into voting for either New Labour,who's present form leaves nothing to the imagination,and the Conservative Party who seem so out of touch with the area,they may as well be on Mars...
Posted by: Unlucky on 1:20pm Thu 1 May 08
I have to agree with you Not Pleased. Labour have brought this country to its knees and is now readying to chop its head off. If Conservative do get somewhere they are not gong to have a lot to play with to try and sort things out.
I have to agree with you Not Pleased. Labour have brought this country to its knees and is now readying to chop its head off. If Conservative do get somewhere they are not gong to have a lot to play with to try and sort things out.
Posted by: Mark, Blackburn, Planet Earth on 1:35pm Thu 1 May 08
[quote][bold]Unlucky[/bold] wrote:
I have to agree with you Not Pleased. Labour have brought this country to its knees and is now readying to chop its head off. If Conservative do get somewhere they are not gong to have a lot to play with to try and sort things out.[/quote] Which country are you living in? 11 years of growth, low inflation and wages in real terms grown by 50%. Are you old enough to have lived through 1979 - 1997?
Unlucky wrote:
I have to agree with you Not Pleased. Labour have brought this country to its knees and is now readying to chop its head off. If Conservative do get somewhere they are not gong to have a lot to play with to try and sort things out.
Which country are you living in? 11 years of growth, low inflation and wages in real terms grown by 50%. Are you old enough to have lived through 1979 - 1997?
Posted by: Vim, UK on 1:42pm Thu 1 May 08
Unfortunate for those who only have 2 ultra right wing parties to vote for (Conservative and NooLabour). In my ward the NooLabour fascists have been running a dirty smear campaign against the LibDems, and just because of that the LD's will have to get my vote. NooLabour and Tories are the same party with the same policies - they all voted to take us into illegal wars of aggression, be involved in illegal torture flights, criminalise all UK citizens, sell us out to corporate scum, and a long litany of other crimes against humanity. It's time for a socialist party, not more of the same old fascist establishment - we fought world wars to combat fascism and they took over by stealth anyway. I sense the levellers are on the rise again... [bold]liberty, equality, fraternity![/bold]
Unfortunate for those who only have 2 ultra right wing parties to vote for (Conservative and NooLabour). In my ward the NooLabour fascists have been running a dirty smear campaign against the LibDems, and just because of that the LD's will have to get my vote. NooLabour and Tories are the same party with the same policies - they all voted to take us into illegal wars of aggression, be involved in illegal torture flights, criminalise all UK citizens, sell us out to corporate scum, and a long litany of other crimes against humanity. It's time for a socialist party, not more of the same old fascist establishment - we fought world wars to combat fascism and they took over by stealth anyway. I sense the levellers are on the rise again...
liberty, equality, fraternity! Posted by: Vim, UK on 1:55pm Thu 1 May 08
The fascist NooLabour party should be outlawed, as should their ultra right wing brethren the Conservatives - between them they make the Nazi BNP look credible, and that is a scary prospect.
11 years of unsustainable growth through enslavement of the populous into record levels of personal debt and artificially inflated housing markets. Inflation suppressed by that same debt process. Wages lower in real terms (due to rising living costs and inflation-busting council tax rises) than 10 years ago. Unemployment at massive levels, yet disguised through manipulation of the figures and semantic arguments over the definition of 'unemployment'. More and more people on low incomes and temporary employment with fewer skilled jobs available. The Tories were bad, the NooLabourites carried their policies forward to greater extremes. If the Tories get back in again they will take us over the edge! Time for change...
The fascist NooLabour party should be outlawed, as should their ultra right wing brethren the Conservatives - between them they make the Nazi BNP look credible, and that is a scary prospect.
11 years of unsustainable growth through enslavement of the populous into record levels of personal debt and artificially inflated housing markets. Inflation suppressed by that same debt process. Wages lower in real terms (due to rising living costs and inflation-busting council tax rises) than 10 years ago. Unemployment at massive levels, yet disguised through manipulation of the figures and semantic arguments over the definition of 'unemployment'. More and more people on low incomes and temporary employment with fewer skilled jobs available. The Tories were bad, the NooLabourites carried their policies forward to greater extremes. If the Tories get back in again they will take us over the edge! Time for change...
Posted by: Padiham Born & Bred, Burnley on 5:21pm Thu 1 May 08
Vote BNP - Padiham Town For The B.N.P ! It's About Time Britain Became British Again.
Vote BNP - Padiham Town For The B.N.P ! It's About Time Britain Became British Again.
Posted by: Ragnarok, Valhalla on 5:22pm Thu 1 May 08
[quote][bold]Bellend[/bold] wrote:
Vote BNP if poss, wev'e voted for the bloody rest and nothings changed. Lets see what can happen if the BNP rule.[/quote] Take New Labour and the Conservatives,put it into a big cocktail shaker,agitate for several years,and HEY PRESTO! You'll end up with something that equates to the BNP.
You can't just vote for a party just because they 'make the right noises' in regards to a few isolated views that a minority might have.
I can understand the sudden attraction to the BNP in the present climate,but you have to remember that once a Fascist ogovernment is installed,just like a nasty gravy stain on your favourite white shirt,they are a bugger to shift...
Bellend wrote:
Vote BNP if poss, wev'e voted for the bloody rest and nothings changed. Lets see what can happen if the BNP rule.
Take New Labour and the Conservatives,put it into a big cocktail shaker,agitate for several years,and HEY PRESTO! You'll end up with something that equates to the BNP.
You can't just vote for a party just because they 'make the right noises' in regards to a few isolated views that a minority might have.
I can understand the sudden attraction to the BNP in the present climate,but you have to remember that once a Fascist ogovernment is installed,just like a nasty gravy stain on your favourite white shirt,they are a bugger to shift...
Posted by: Who are we voting for?, Darwen on 5:46pm Thu 1 May 08
The Labour Party are squandering the taxes on their ridiculous schemes which are ruining Darwen .
The Conservatives under Colin Rigby's rule have jumped into Rodney Aldridge's jacket pocket, and only want to draw their expenses with minimum effort.
The [italic]supposedly[/italic] For Darwen Party are only concerned with furthering their own, and friends businesses, Melia changes policy like the wind, when he's not taking orders from Rigby. The word Chamelion springs to mind. After all Melia stood as a Lib Dem in Darwen against the Darwen Independents not so long ago.
The Liberal Democrats are the only party to have consistently spoken out for the people and fought against injustice's that the people of Darwen have had to endure from the former Labour administration.
Now you know the facts you know who your voting for.
But most importantly get Labour out as they are conning the people of the Borough and the whole Country.
The Labour Party are squandering the taxes on their ridiculous schemes which are ruining Darwen .
The Conservatives under Colin Rigby's rule have jumped into Rodney Aldridge's jacket pocket, and only want to draw their expenses with minimum effort.
The
supposedly For Darwen Party are only concerned with furthering their own, and friends businesses, Melia changes policy like the wind, when he's not taking orders from Rigby. The word Chamelion springs to mind. After all Melia stood as a Lib Dem in Darwen against the Darwen Independents not so long ago.
The Liberal Democrats are the only party to have consistently spoken out for the people and fought against injustice's that the people of Darwen have had to endure from the former Labour administration.
Now you know the facts you know who your voting for.
But most importantly get Labour out as they are conning the people of the Borough and the whole Country.
Posted by: katy, spain on 7:07pm Thu 1 May 08
Well nothing changes in good old england nice to be sat in the sun here having left all that behind, you can jump into the frying pan or into the fire your choice is no choice and thats been england for a long time now why do you think the great has been dropped it used to be in front of britain not now
Well nothing changes in good old england nice to be sat in the sun here having left all that behind, you can jump into the frying pan or into the fire your choice is no choice and thats been england for a long time now why do you think the great has been dropped it used to be in front of britain not now
Posted by: asif khan, blackburn on 7:09pm Thu 1 May 08
Well I have just voted.Didnt really know who to vote.
I just voted because of it.All parties are the same but I suppose its better than wasting the vote.
In other countries people give they lives to vote....
Well I have just voted.Didnt really know who to vote.
I just voted because of it.All parties are the same but I suppose its better than wasting the vote.
In other countries people give they lives to vote....
Posted by: soap opera, coronation st on 7:53pm Thu 1 May 08
bring a curry round ,my vote is your vote,open to all parties
bring a curry round ,my vote is your vote,open to all parties
Posted by: Mrs, blackburn on 9:06pm Thu 1 May 08
get Bateson out!!!
Posted by: Bob, Blackburn on 10:19pm Thu 1 May 08
Thanks to fraudulent postal voting, many wards can now enjoy 150% turnouts.
Thanks to fraudulent postal voting, many wards can now enjoy 150% turnouts.
Posted by: Joseph Goebbels, The Bunker,Berlin 1945 on 11:32pm Thu 1 May 08
[quote][bold]bb[/bold] wrote:
i was a teenager in the 70s that is why i have never voted labour. communist bastards.[/quote] I cant reveal my true ID obviously,but bb,thats the best ive read in a long time!.
Thank you for making my evening! : )
AH
bb wrote:
i was a teenager in the 70s that is why i have never voted labour. communist bastards.
I cant reveal my true ID obviously,but bb,thats the best ive read in a long time!.
Thank you for making my evening! : )
AH
Posted by: jimmy, colne on 1:38am Fri 2 May 08
they are all lineing there pockets this uk is gone down the drain they are all a waste of space killings every day muggings lets all go to spain leave uk it is ****
they are all lineing there pockets this uk is gone down the drain they are all a waste of space killings every day muggings lets all go to spain leave uk it is ****
Posted by: Dave on 2:36am Fri 2 May 08
Well at least in Spain there is a socialist government!
Well at least in Spain there is a socialist government!
Posted by: Mohammed al Fayed, Arrods or is it Harrods on 4:40am Fri 2 May 08
[quote][bold]Mark[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Unlucky[/bold] wrote: I have to agree with you Not Pleased. Labour have brought this country to its knees and is now readying to chop its head off. If Conservative do get somewhere they are not gong to have a lot to play with to try and sort things out.[/quote] Which country are you living in? 11 years of growth, low inflation and wages in real terms grown by 50%. Are you old enough to have lived through 1979 - 1997?[/quote] All i have seen happen since labour came into power is IMMIGRATION,IMMIGRAT
ION<IMMIGRATION,watc
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Mark wrote:
Unlucky wrote: I have to agree with you Not Pleased. Labour have brought this country to its knees and is now readying to chop its head off. If Conservative do get somewhere they are not gong to have a lot to play with to try and sort things out.
Which country are you living in? 11 years of growth, low inflation and wages in real terms grown by 50%. Are you old enough to have lived through 1979 - 1997?
All i have seen happen since labour came into power is IMMIGRATION,IMMIGRAT
ION<IMMIGRATION,watc
h the gestapo at the telegraph take this comment off.
Posted by: I hate Tax, Saudi Arabia on 7:10am Fri 2 May 08
Mark wrote what had Labour given us since 1997.
Let's see:
* Stealth Taxes
* Hospitals full of managers and targets and patients STILL suffering.
* Introduction of 10% tax rate then removed it.
* Increased business taxes, smaller ones suffering and dissolving
* Virtually bankrupted the country.
* Sold of gold reserves
* Mass Imigration
* Tax payer paying for initiative failures
* Inflation that is greater than pay rises
* Inefective Police force for victims
* Fuel prices that are astronical. (£5.00 for 70 litres out here.)
* Innefective against Vote rigging. (Blackburn a good example)
* Our troops left in squalor. (immigrants etc.. getting better accommodation)
* Yob culture rampant.
* knee jerk reactions which cost millions
* Prescription charge increase, while Wales free and Scotland reduced.
I could go on.
I was around in the 60's, 70's and still am now. The difference is i got fed up paying my taxes for them to be wasted. So now I don't and it's great having money in my pocket. Which I wouldn't in UK. Thanks Labour for helping me make my decision.
Mark wrote what had Labour given us since 1997.
Let's see:
* Stealth Taxes
* Hospitals full of managers and targets and patients STILL suffering.
* Introduction of 10% tax rate then removed it.
* Increased business taxes, smaller ones suffering and dissolving
* Virtually bankrupted the country.
* Sold of gold reserves
* Mass Imigration
* Tax payer paying for initiative failures
* Inflation that is greater than pay rises
* Inefective Police force for victims
* Fuel prices that are astronical. (£5.00 for 70 litres out here.)
* Innefective against Vote rigging. (Blackburn a good example)
* Our troops left in squalor. (immigrants etc.. getting better accommodation)
* Yob culture rampant.
* knee jerk reactions which cost millions
* Prescription charge increase, while Wales free and Scotland reduced.
I could go on.
I was around in the 60's, 70's and still am now. The difference is i got fed up paying my taxes for them to be wasted. So now I don't and it's great having money in my pocket. Which I wouldn't in UK. Thanks Labour for helping me make my decision.
Posted by: cypruslad, cyprus on 7:59am Fri 2 May 08
I hate tax.
Brilliant comments.
All i can say is i second that emotion.
I hate tax.
Brilliant comments.
All i can say is i second that emotion.
Posted by: Wilky, BLACKPOOL on 8:07am Fri 2 May 08
Its all about BNP
Posted by: Mikey, Beardwood, Blackburn on 8:33am Fri 2 May 08
To quote the Marx Brothers, (Who were possibly thinking of our Council),
"These are my principles. If you don't like them, then I've plenty more!"
To quote the Marx Brothers, (Who were possibly thinking of our Council),
"These are my principles. If you don't like them, then I've plenty more!"
Posted by: Burnley Taxpayer, Burnley on 8:40am Fri 2 May 08
[quote][bold]Padiham Born & Bred[/bold] wrote:
Vote BNP - Padiham Town For The B.N.P ! It's About Time Britain Became British Again.[/quote] And you wonder why they are known as 'padiham Thick-necks'! The BNP are a racist mob with a veneer of social concern to mask their basic bigotry. Seig Heil.
Padiham Born & Bred wrote:
Vote BNP - Padiham Town For The B.N.P ! It's About Time Britain Became British Again.
And you wonder why they are known as 'padiham Thick-necks'! The BNP are a racist mob with a veneer of social concern to mask their basic bigotry. Seig Heil.
Posted by: Lord Lucan, Hiding on 10:07am Fri 2 May 08
Labour --
Soft on crime
Soft on immigration
No spine when it comes to standing up for British people
Your days are numbered
BYE BYE
Labour --
Soft on crime
Soft on immigration
No spine when it comes to standing up for British people
Your days are numbered
BYE BYE
Posted by: ewood.eddie, blackburn south on 10:18am Fri 2 May 08
all these comments are regurgitated tabloid opinions why don't you form your own opinions by reading the avilable materials.
all these comments are regurgitated tabloid opinions why don't you form your own opinions by reading the avilable materials.
Posted by: kerry gormley, The Beautiful North on 10:37am Fri 2 May 08
[quote][bold]asif khan[/bold] wrote:
Well I have just voted.Didnt really know who to vote.
I just voted because of it.All parties are the same but I suppose its better than wasting the vote.
In other countries people give they lives to vote....[/quote] All parties are NOT the same. There is one party that is different if you make the effort to look. It is the Green Party. It's so easy to sit at the computer, at your own convienience and complain and criticise those people who have taken the decision to make a political committment isn't it? It is much more demanding and difficult to decide for yourself to participate fully in political life - locally, nationally, or globally and to work to effect positive change. Political change CAN only happen when people, ordinary people, make an effort within their own lives and decide to stop leaving it to Politicians. Every action of our lives is a political statement: what we eat; where we shop; what we wear; what job we do; how we use our recreation time - this is political life. I thank asif for voting and welcom his reminder that accross this planet some people are prepared to face violence and even loss of life to affirm their right to participate in the democratic process. IN this country we can vote in peace and safety - if their is no candidate that represents you then consider standing yourself. You do even have the choice to spoil your ballot paper. spoilt papers are counted too.
Inaction is a weapon of mass destruction!
KG
asif khan wrote:
Well I have just voted.Didnt really know who to vote.
I just voted because of it.All parties are the same but I suppose its better than wasting the vote.
In other countries people give they lives to vote....
All parties are NOT the same. There is one party that is different if you make the effort to look. It is the Green Party. It's so easy to sit at the computer, at your own convienience and complain and criticise those people who have taken the decision to make a political committment isn't it? It is much more demanding and difficult to decide for yourself to participate fully in political life - locally, nationally, or globally and to work to effect positive change. Political change CAN only happen when people, ordinary people, make an effort within their own lives and decide to stop leaving it to Politicians. Every action of our lives is a political statement: what we eat; where we shop; what we wear; what job we do; how we use our recreation time - this is political life. I thank asif for voting and welcom his reminder that accross this planet some people are prepared to face violence and even loss of life to affirm their right to participate in the democratic process. IN this country we can vote in peace and safety - if their is no candidate that represents you then consider standing yourself. You do even have the choice to spoil your ballot paper. spoilt papers are counted too.
Inaction is a weapon of mass destruction!
KG
Posted by: I hate Tax on 10:46am Fri 2 May 08
[quote][bold]ewood.eddie[/bold] wrote:
all these comments are regurgitated tabloid opinions why don't you form your own opinions by reading the avilable materials.[/quote] Are they regurgitated tabloid opinions? I folded my business because it ended up not worth running. I had cameras on my house because of the yobs congregating and causing destruction. Why did we bail Northern Rock? The taxpayer that is. And now other banks are asking to be bailed out.
Mass Imigration has happened both legally and illegal. My brother-in-law works for a hospital trust as a manager and is disgusted at the fabrications. But the money is good. Prescription charges; seen it with my own eyes.
Fuel prices; seen it with my own eyes. Our troops; seen it with my own eyes.
I don't need need to read the papers I talk to friends and family. They say word of mouth is the best form of communication.
To be fair on Labour, they have done some good. Just can't recollect it at the moment.
And eddie, you will know, like tabloids the parties will only say what you want to hear, not what is actually happening. :)
ewood.eddie wrote:
all these comments are regurgitated tabloid opinions why don't you form your own opinions by reading the avilable materials.
Are they regurgitated tabloid opinions? I folded my business because it ended up not worth running. I had cameras on my house because of the yobs congregating and causing destruction. Why did we bail Northern Rock? The taxpayer that is. And now other banks are asking to be bailed out.
Mass Imigration has happened both legally and illegal. My brother-in-law works for a hospital trust as a manager and is disgusted at the fabrications. But the money is good. Prescription charges; seen it with my own eyes.
Fuel prices; seen it with my own eyes. Our troops; seen it with my own eyes.
I don't need need to read the papers I talk to friends and family. They say word of mouth is the best form of communication.
To be fair on Labour, they have done some good. Just can't recollect it at the moment.
And eddie, you will know, like tabloids the parties will only say what you want to hear, not what is actually happening. :)
Posted by: Jeffrey crook, Blackburn on 10:51am Fri 2 May 08
Why the delay?
We're not waiting for Robert Mugabe to come and help with the count.
Why the delay?
We're not waiting for Robert Mugabe to come and help with the count.
Posted by: andy, Spain on 11:49am Fri 2 May 08
Dont get why I hate tax in Saudia Arabia is having a go at so called immigrants in his attack. Strange hes an immigrant to a Country called Saudi Arabia.
Sounds like its ok for him or her to do it but no one else to do it.
In other words Why I Hate Tax Saudi Arabia you talk crap. People have to pay tax if they want services. Yes I am a Socialist at heart and would quite openly tax those at the top who have got away with their fair share since Maggie was at the Helm. When the oil drys are you telling me that Saudi and the Oil Producing Countries will have another industry to allow tax free parasites like yourself? I wait for your answers to the questions I have put to you regarding Immigration and Tax.
Dont get why I hate tax in Saudia Arabia is having a go at so called immigrants in his attack. Strange hes an immigrant to a Country called Saudi Arabia.
Sounds like its ok for him or her to do it but no one else to do it.
In other words Why I Hate Tax Saudi Arabia you talk crap. People have to pay tax if they want services. Yes I am a Socialist at heart and would quite openly tax those at the top who have got away with their fair share since Maggie was at the Helm. When the oil drys are you telling me that Saudi and the Oil Producing Countries will have another industry to allow tax free parasites like yourself? I wait for your answers to the questions I have put to you regarding Immigration and Tax.
Posted by: I hate Tax on 12:43pm Fri 2 May 08
[quote][bold]andy[/bold] wrote:
Dont get why I hate tax in Saudia Arabia is having a go at so called immigrants in his attack. Strange hes an immigrant to a Country called Saudi Arabia.
Sounds like its ok for him or her to do it but no one else to do it.
In other words Why I Hate Tax Saudi Arabia you talk crap. People have to pay tax if they want services. Yes I am a Socialist at heart and would quite openly tax those at the top who have got away with their fair share since Maggie was at the Helm. When the oil drys are you telling me that Saudi and the Oil Producing Countries will have another industry to allow tax free parasites like yourself? I wait for your answers to the questions I have put to you regarding Immigration and Tax.
[/quote] You don't know how long I've been in Saudi. It could 5 years, it could be six months. My comments were made that Labour helped me make my decision to leave UK. Immigration in the UK is out of control. I'm not a parasite, I work long hours and earn every penny I make. I don't scrounge benefits, I put back into the Saudi economy by purchasing food and goods over here, I pay for translators as needed, pay for private medical insurance. The company I work for pay for a lot of things that immigrants in the UK don't pay for.
I still pay 100% council tax in the UK, and I don't even use the ammenities. My wife still shops in the UK, She still pays for her prescription charges, Or am I also a parasite of the UK as well because I am paying into both countries.
And I would still say Labour have crippled the UK with their actions. And yes, they have even heightened terrorism in the UK with their illegal war.
Do people have to pay tax to get services? unemployment is at its highest. we have the work shy and those who do want to work but can't. I appreciate that, but, they pay tax do they? Those who have their Rents paid, those that have their Council Tax paid. All paid for by the Tax Payer.
The immigrants, who come into the UK and have 3+ kids then expect the state to pay them to bring them up, and get housed as well. Do they all pay tax for services?
The immigrants who come into the UK and then queue up for medical services for free. Do they pay taxes?
If I wanted to learn a subject at Blackburn college, the main focus was is on free English language courses which reduced other courses for indigenous people leaving them unable to better themselves for employment.
I did not mind paying taxes, had done ever since I was old enough to work. What i did mind was paying taxes and seeing it being squandered.
Maggie, was not a saint, no government is. But when one says they are listening and then turn their backs on the indigenous population, then you need to ask the questions. Unfortunately, people are scared to nowadays
andy wrote:
Dont get why I hate tax in Saudia Arabia is having a go at so called immigrants in his attack. Strange hes an immigrant to a Country called Saudi Arabia.
Sounds like its ok for him or her to do it but no one else to do it.
In other words Why I Hate Tax Saudi Arabia you talk crap. People have to pay tax if they want services. Yes I am a Socialist at heart and would quite openly tax those at the top who have got away with their fair share since Maggie was at the Helm. When the oil drys are you telling me that Saudi and the Oil Producing Countries will have another industry to allow tax free parasites like yourself? I wait for your answers to the questions I have put to you regarding Immigration and Tax.
You don't know how long I've been in Saudi. It could 5 years, it could be six months. My comments were made that Labour helped me make my decision to leave UK. Immigration in the UK is out of control. I'm not a parasite, I work long hours and earn every penny I make. I don't scrounge benefits, I put back into the Saudi economy by purchasing food and goods over here, I pay for translators as needed, pay for private medical insurance. The company I work for pay for a lot of things that immigrants in the UK don't pay for.
I still pay 100% council tax in the UK, and I don't even use the ammenities. My wife still shops in the UK, She still pays for her prescription charges, Or am I also a parasite of the UK as well because I am paying into both countries.
And I would still say Labour have crippled the UK with their actions. And yes, they have even heightened terrorism in the UK with their illegal war.
Do people have to pay tax to get services? unemployment is at its highest. we have the work shy and those who do want to work but can't. I appreciate that, but, they pay tax do they? Those who have their Rents paid, those that have their Council Tax paid. All paid for by the Tax Payer.
The immigrants, who come into the UK and have 3+ kids then expect the state to pay them to bring them up, and get housed as well. Do they all pay tax for services?
The immigrants who come into the UK and then queue up for medical services for free. Do they pay taxes?
If I wanted to learn a subject at Blackburn college, the main focus was is on free English language courses which reduced other courses for indigenous people leaving them unable to better themselves for employment.
I did not mind paying taxes, had done ever since I was old enough to work. What i did mind was paying taxes and seeing it being squandered.
Maggie, was not a saint, no government is. But when one says they are listening and then turn their backs on the indigenous population, then you need to ask the questions. Unfortunately, people are scared to nowadays
Posted by: Annoyed, Blackburn on 1:22pm Fri 2 May 08
[quote][bold]kerry gormley[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]asif khan[/bold] wrote: Well I have just voted.Didnt really know who to vote. I just voted because of it.All parties are the same but I suppose its better than wasting the vote. In other countries people give they lives to vote....[/quote] All parties are NOT the same. There is one party that is different if you make the effort to look. It is the Green Party. It\'s so easy to sit at the computer, at your own convienience and complain and criticise those people who have taken the decision to make a political committment isn\'t it? It is much more demanding and difficult to decide for yourself to participate fully in political life - locally, nationally, or globally and to work to effect positive change. Political change CAN only happen when people, ordinary people, make an effort within their own lives and decide to stop leaving it to Politicians. Every action of our lives is a political statement: what we eat; where we shop; what we wear; what job we do; how we use our recreation time - this is political life. I thank asif for voting and welcom his reminder that accross this planet some people are prepared to face violence and even loss of life to affirm their right to participate in the democratic process. IN this country we can vote in peace and safety - if their is no candidate that represents you then consider standing yourself. You do even have the choice to spoil your ballot paper. spoilt papers are counted too. Inaction is a weapon of mass destruction! KG [/quote] Well said KG - it's too easy for people to sit back and criticise. Why don't these people go out and make a difference themselves for once then they'll see how much of a commitment is required and the extent of the sacrifice with regards time outside of a normal 9-5. These people are doing a full time job on top of a full time job. If you don't like something, there is nothing stopping you going out and make a difference yourself.
kerry gormley wrote:
asif khan wrote: Well I have just voted.Didnt really know who to vote. I just voted because of it.All parties are the same but I suppose its better than wasting the vote. In other countries people give they lives to vote....
All parties are NOT the same. There is one party that is different if you make the effort to look. It is the Green Party. It\'s so easy to sit at the computer, at your own convienience and complain and criticise those people who have taken the decision to make a political committment isn\'t it? It is much more demanding and difficult to decide for yourself to participate fully in political life - locally, nationally, or globally and to work to effect positive change. Political change CAN only happen when people, ordinary people, make an effort within their own lives and decide to stop leaving it to Politicians. Every action of our lives is a political statement: what we eat; where we shop; what we wear; what job we do; how we use our recreation time - this is political life. I thank asif for voting and welcom his reminder that accross this planet some people are prepared to face violence and even loss of life to affirm their right to participate in the democratic process. IN this country we can vote in peace and safety - if their is no candidate that represents you then consider standing yourself. You do even have the choice to spoil your ballot paper. spoilt papers are counted too. Inaction is a weapon of mass destruction! KG
Well said KG - it's too easy for people to sit back and criticise. Why don't these people go out and make a difference themselves for once then they'll see how much of a commitment is required and the extent of the sacrifice with regards time outside of a normal 9-5. These people are doing a full time job on top of a full time job. If you don't like something, there is nothing stopping you going out and make a difference yourself.
Posted by: top cat, burnley on 3:51pm Fri 2 May 08
ha,ha labour got trounced there useless..a bad election tactic is to belittle opposition,it comes back to bite you on the b*m..well done labour(ha,ha)you lot really are useless..youve ruined country..and your all smug!!
ha,ha labour got trounced there useless..a bad election tactic is to belittle opposition,it comes back to bite you on the b*m..well done labour(ha,ha)you lot really are useless..youve ruined country..and your all smug!!
Posted by: Burnley Taxpayer, Burnley on 3:54pm Fri 2 May 08
[quote][bold]Unlucky[/bold] wrote:
Mr Mugabe, you can have it. I still think you don't have enough, a bit like Labour here. (hopefully :) If I only have 2 to pick from it makes my decision a lot easier. Ummmm, which one. Where did BNP go?[/quote] Who cares where they went as long as they have gone. Mugabe would be impressed by the BNP - a party based on colour and run for the benefit of a small group of thugs.
Unlucky wrote:
Mr Mugabe, you can have it. I still think you don't have enough, a bit like Labour here. (hopefully :) If I only have 2 to pick from it makes my decision a lot easier. Ummmm, which one. Where did BNP go?
Who cares where they went as long as they have gone. Mugabe would be impressed by the BNP - a party based on colour and run for the benefit of a small group of thugs.
Posted by: Mrs. Zia on 6:22pm Sat 3 May 08
I voted the B N P.
That is the Bangladesh National Party (kick ****)
I voted the B N P.
That is the Bangladesh National Party (kick ****)
Posted by: top cat, burnley on 8:41pm Sun 4 May 08
B.N.P FOR THE BRITISH PEOPLE..BLACK OR WHITE...DONT LISTEN TO LABOUR/LIB DEM PROPOGANDA...LABOUR LOST PLOT AND YOUR MONEY..THEY GAVE INDIA 200 MILLION IN AID OTHER MONTH..YES INDIA,WHO THEN BOUGHT 2 MAJOR CAR MANUFACTOURERS FOR 200 MILLION!!!HOW MANY HOSPITALS OR COPS COULD THAT OF BOUGHT
B.N.P FOR THE BRITISH PEOPLE..BLACK OR WHITE...DONT LISTEN TO LABOUR/LIB DEM PROPOGANDA...LABOUR LOST PLOT AND YOUR MONEY..THEY GAVE INDIA 200 MILLION IN AID OTHER MONTH..YES INDIA,WHO THEN BOUGHT 2 MAJOR CAR MANUFACTOURERS FOR 200 MILLION!!!HOW MANY HOSPITALS OR COPS COULD THAT OF BOUGHT
Posted by: Burnley Taxpayer, Burnley on 11:51am Tue 6 May 08
[quote][bold]top cat[/bold] wrote:
B.N.P FOR THE BRITISH PEOPLE..BLACK OR WHITE...DONT LISTEN TO LABOUR/LIB DEM PROPOGANDA...LABOUR LOST PLOT AND YOUR MONEY..THEY GAVE INDIA 200 MILLION IN AID OTHER MONTH..YES INDIA,WHO THEN BOUGHT 2 MAJOR CAR MANUFACTOURERS FOR 200 MILLION!!!HOW MANY HOSPITALS OR COPS COULD THAT OF BOUGHT[/quote] Don't you know it's considered rude to type in all capitals? The equivalent of shouting. Still, about what you would expect from a BNP supporter - volume over content.
top cat wrote:
B.N.P FOR THE BRITISH PEOPLE..BLACK OR WHITE...DONT LISTEN TO LABOUR/LIB DEM PROPOGANDA...LABOUR LOST PLOT AND YOUR MONEY..THEY GAVE INDIA 200 MILLION IN AID OTHER MONTH..YES INDIA,WHO THEN BOUGHT 2 MAJOR CAR MANUFACTOURERS FOR 200 MILLION!!!HOW MANY HOSPITALS OR COPS COULD THAT OF BOUGHT
Don't you know it's considered rude to type in all capitals? The equivalent of shouting. Still, about what you would expect from a BNP supporter - volume over content.
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