Fewer East Lancashire children given primary school first choices

First published in News Lancashire Telegraph: Photograph of the Author by , Reporter

FEWER children in East Lancashire have been given the first choice place in primary school, it has been revealed.

Blackburn with Darwen Council and Lancashire County Council have seen a slight dip in the numbers of children gaining the preferred choice of school that was requested by their parents.

The numbers receiving the second and third choices also increased.

Education bosses said that an increase in the numbers of pupils starting school in September had caused the drop in the percentage of those securing the first choice.

In Blackburn with Darwen, places had to be found for another 122 children and an additional 590 youngsters needed a place in a Lancashire County Council school.

This year 87 per cent of children in Blackburn with Darwen were given the first choice school compared to 88.78 per cent last year.

This year seven per cent gained their second preference and two per cent their third.

In Lancashire County Council 89.2 per cent gained their preferred choice compared to 90 per cent last year.

This year 6.7 per cent gained their second preference and 2.3 per cent their third. Parents are being notified today by post and they have the right to appeal the offers that have been made.

Lisa Bibby, director of education and learning, said: “It is very pleasing to see a similar percentage of families receiving their first preference of primary school this year, especially considering the slight rise in pupil numbers.

“The council has increased capacity at Wensley Fold Primary School which has ensured that the first preferences met has only resulted in a one per cent drop from previous years, but the overall percentage preferences met has increased.

“There are a large number of popular primary schools in Blackburn and Darwen and this ultimately means there is competition for places.”

Bob Stott, Lancashire County Council's director for universal and early support services, said: “The first day at school is a real milestone for children, and for mums and dads too, and I am pleased that so many will be starting at one of their preferred schools.

“We are experiencing increased demand, so it is heartening to see the number of parents receiving one of their three preferences is actually slightly up compared to the same time last year.”

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2:01pm Tue 24 Apr 12

happycyclist says...

All these percentages don't really tell much of a story. If the dip in first-choices is because more parents are trying to send their kids to schools that are miles away from where they live, and who would, if accepted, deny a child living in the catchment area, that sounds like sensible allocation to me.
All these percentages don't really tell much of a story. If the dip in first-choices is because more parents are trying to send their kids to schools that are miles away from where they live, and who would, if accepted, deny a child living in the catchment area, that sounds like sensible allocation to me. happycyclist
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6:36pm Tue 24 Apr 12

Iftikhar says...

A Muslim is a citizen of this tiny global village. He does not want to become notoriously monolingual Brit. A Muslim child learns and be well versed in Standard English to follow the National; Curriculum and go for higher studies and research to serve humanity. At the same time he learns and be well versed in Arabic, Urdu and other community languages to keep in touch with his cultural heritage and enjoy the beauty of his literature and poetry.

Bilingual Muslim children need state funded Muslim schools with bilingual Muslim teachers as role models during their developmental periods. There is no place for a non-Muslim child or a teacher in a Muslim schools. There are hundreds of state and church schools where Muslim children are in majority. In my opinion, all such schools may be opted out as Muslim Academies.
IA
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A Muslim is a citizen of this tiny global village. He does not want to become notoriously monolingual Brit. A Muslim child learns and be well versed in Standard English to follow the National; Curriculum and go for higher studies and research to serve humanity. At the same time he learns and be well versed in Arabic, Urdu and other community languages to keep in touch with his cultural heritage and enjoy the beauty of his literature and poetry. Bilingual Muslim children need state funded Muslim schools with bilingual Muslim teachers as role models during their developmental periods. There is no place for a non-Muslim child or a teacher in a Muslim schools. There are hundreds of state and church schools where Muslim children are in majority. In my opinion, all such schools may be opted out as Muslim Academies. IA http://www.londonsch oolofislamics.org.uk Iftikhar
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7:03pm Tue 24 Apr 12

slipslider says...

Iftikar...and if I said the same but about muslim children that there is no place for them...what an outrage that would case. As a muslim child he does what his parents tell him, he does not know of literature or poetry until he is learned in it (lol). He does not know of research to serve humanity and does not know this is what he wishes to do with his life as a 4 year old....it is his parents wishes! As is all of the above! Passing on their prejudices and stereotypes to the next generation! What about we rid of all religious schools and then all children are taught equally about everything and 'integrate' into the society they live in not criticise the indigenous population because they don't speak more than one language!
Iftikar...and if I said the same but about muslim children that there is no place for them...what an outrage that would case. As a muslim child he does what his parents tell him, he does not know of literature or poetry until he is learned in it (lol). He does not know of research to serve humanity and does not know this is what he wishes to do with his life as a 4 year old....it is his parents wishes! As is all of the above! Passing on their prejudices and stereotypes to the next generation! What about we rid of all religious schools and then all children are taught equally about everything and 'integrate' into the society they live in not criticise the indigenous population because they don't speak more than one language! slipslider
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11:19pm Tue 24 Apr 12

louderfasterlonger says...

slipslider wrote:
Iftikar...and if I said the same but about muslim children that there is no place for them...what an outrage that would case. As a muslim child he does what his parents tell him, he does not know of literature or poetry until he is learned in it (lol). He does not know of research to serve humanity and does not know this is what he wishes to do with his life as a 4 year old....it is his parents wishes! As is all of the above! Passing on their prejudices and stereotypes to the next generation! What about we rid of all religious schools and then all children are taught equally about everything and 'integrate' into the society they live in not criticise the indigenous population because they don't speak more than one language!
Iftikhar epitomises a very dangerous fundamentalism within his community. Not only does he wish to create Muslim only schools, his goal seems to be to overrun state schools with Muslim Fundamentalism and declare them independant of the Local Education Authority.

His Ideals, and those of his community have been creeping up on us for years.

The fundamentals of our country are of education - not indoctrination.

Use all your powers of persuasion as an adult to create a British Muslim state if you wish Iftikhtar, but, quite frankly, using 4 year olds as your choice of weapon is despicable.
[quote][p][bold]slipslider[/bold] wrote: Iftikar...and if I said the same but about muslim children that there is no place for them...what an outrage that would case. As a muslim child he does what his parents tell him, he does not know of literature or poetry until he is learned in it (lol). He does not know of research to serve humanity and does not know this is what he wishes to do with his life as a 4 year old....it is his parents wishes! As is all of the above! Passing on their prejudices and stereotypes to the next generation! What about we rid of all religious schools and then all children are taught equally about everything and 'integrate' into the society they live in not criticise the indigenous population because they don't speak more than one language![/p][/quote]Iftikhar epitomises a very dangerous fundamentalism within his community. Not only does he wish to create Muslim only schools, his goal seems to be to overrun state schools with Muslim Fundamentalism and declare them independant of the Local Education Authority. His Ideals, and those of his community have been creeping up on us for years. The fundamentals of our country are of education - not indoctrination. Use all your powers of persuasion as an adult to create a British Muslim state if you wish Iftikhtar, but, quite frankly, using 4 year olds as your choice of weapon is despicable. louderfasterlonger
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11:31pm Tue 24 Apr 12

Iftikhar says...

According to the Education Act of 1944, children should be educated according the needs and demands of the parents. Majority of Muslim parents would like to send their children to Muslim schools. Have a look at the lengthy waiting lists.

Truth is always bitter. You must learn to listen to those who are culturally, linguistically and spiritually differnt. Education is should be more than providing pupils with the skills they need to get a job or enter university: we should not forget that we have a duty to pass on a body of knowledge through generations

British schools are not doing enough to tackle racism and promote race relations. Many teachers are unaware of racist attitudes amongst pupils. Schools have a responsibility not only to deal with racist incidents but also to prepare pupils for life in a multicultural and multiracial society.

Children from minority groups, especially the Muslims, are exposed to the pressure of racism, multiculturalism and bullying. They suffer academically, culturally and linguistically: a high proportion of children of Pakistani and Bangladeshi origin are leaving British schools with low grades or no qualification.

In the 80s, the Muslim community in Britain started to set up Muslim schools. The first was the London School of Islamics which I established and which operating from 1981-86. Now there are 170 and only 12 are state funded.

The needs and demands of Muslim children can be met only through Muslim schools, but education is an expensive business and the Muslim community does not have the resources to set up schools for each and every child, and only eight Muslim schools have achieved grant maintained status.

This leaves a majority of children from Muslim families with no choice but to attend state schools. There are hundreds of state schools where Muslim pupils are in majority. In my opinion, all such schools may be opted out as Muslim Academies with bilingual Muslim teachers as role models.

Prince Charles, while visiting the first grant maintained Muslim school in north London, said that the pupils would be the future ambassadors of Islam. But what about thousands of others, who attend state schools deemed to be "sink schools"?

The time has come for the Muslim community - in the form of Islamic charities and trusts - to manage and run those state schools where Muslim pupils are in the majority. The Department for Education would be responsible for funding, inspection and maintenance.

The management would be in the hands of educated professional Muslims. The teaching of Arabic, Islamic studies, Urdu and other community languages by qualified Muslim teachers would help the pupils to develop an Islamic identity, which is crucial for mental, emotional and personality development.

In the east London borough of Newham, there are at least 10 state schools where Muslim pupils are in the majority.

The television newscaster Sir Trevor McDonald is a champion of introducing foreign modern languages even at primary level in schools in Britain. The Muslim community would like to see Arabic, Urdu and other community languages introduced at nursery, primary and secondary schools along with European languages so that Muslim pupils have these options.

In education, there should be a choice and at present it is denied to the Muslim community. In the late 80s and early 90s, when I floated the idea of Muslim community schools, I was declared a "school hijacker" by an editorial in the Newham Recorder newspaper in east London.
According to the Education Act of 1944, children should be educated according the needs and demands of the parents. Majority of Muslim parents would like to send their children to Muslim schools. Have a look at the lengthy waiting lists. Truth is always bitter. You must learn to listen to those who are culturally, linguistically and spiritually differnt. Education is should be more than providing pupils with the skills they need to get a job or enter university: we should not forget that we have a duty to pass on a body of knowledge through generations British schools are not doing enough to tackle racism and promote race relations. Many teachers are unaware of racist attitudes amongst pupils. Schools have a responsibility not only to deal with racist incidents but also to prepare pupils for life in a multicultural and multiracial society. Children from minority groups, especially the Muslims, are exposed to the pressure of racism, multiculturalism and bullying. They suffer academically, culturally and linguistically: a high proportion of children of Pakistani and Bangladeshi origin are leaving British schools with low grades or no qualification. In the 80s, the Muslim community in Britain started to set up Muslim schools. The first was the London School of Islamics which I established and which operating from 1981-86. Now there are 170 and only 12 are state funded. The needs and demands of Muslim children can be met only through Muslim schools, but education is an expensive business and the Muslim community does not have the resources to set up schools for each and every child, and only eight Muslim schools have achieved grant maintained status. This leaves a majority of children from Muslim families with no choice but to attend state schools. There are hundreds of state schools where Muslim pupils are in majority. In my opinion, all such schools may be opted out as Muslim Academies with bilingual Muslim teachers as role models. Prince Charles, while visiting the first grant maintained Muslim school in north London, said that the pupils would be the future ambassadors of Islam. But what about thousands of others, who attend state schools deemed to be "sink schools"? The time has come for the Muslim community - in the form of Islamic charities and trusts - to manage and run those state schools where Muslim pupils are in the majority. The Department for Education would be responsible for funding, inspection and maintenance. The management would be in the hands of educated professional Muslims. The teaching of Arabic, Islamic studies, Urdu and other community languages by qualified Muslim teachers would help the pupils to develop an Islamic identity, which is crucial for mental, emotional and personality development. In the east London borough of Newham, there are at least 10 state schools where Muslim pupils are in the majority. The television newscaster Sir Trevor McDonald is a champion of introducing foreign modern languages even at primary level in schools in Britain. The Muslim community would like to see Arabic, Urdu and other community languages introduced at nursery, primary and secondary schools along with European languages so that Muslim pupils have these options. In education, there should be a choice and at present it is denied to the Muslim community. In the late 80s and early 90s, when I floated the idea of Muslim community schools, I was declared a "school hijacker" by an editorial in the Newham Recorder newspaper in east London. Iftikhar
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7:36am Wed 25 Apr 12

happycyclist says...

Thanks, Iffy. It's good to see an Asian Muslim on here being honest about their inherent racism and their contempt for a British way of life. White British people are the ones usually accused of being racists, so it's nice to hear from you and good to see you putting the effort in to bring communities together.
Thanks, Iffy. It's good to see an Asian Muslim on here being honest about their inherent racism and their contempt for a British way of life. White British people are the ones usually accused of being racists, so it's nice to hear from you and good to see you putting the effort in to bring communities together. happycyclist
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7:45am Wed 25 Apr 12

woolywords says...

I'm confused as to what is being promoted here, since there appear to be mixed messages in what is being promoted.
You want a multilingual muslim teachers, teaching muslim values to muslim children, is that what you are saying? If that is the case, what is the purpose of the plethora of muslim madrassa in the town? It had always been my impression that these places existence was founded on where muslim children are given exactly what you now expect mainstream schools to provide.
Being muslim is a lifestyle choice which has no place in schools, like any other religeon.
What is promulgated flies in the face of everything that has been done in this country to make being different, acceptable.

If I proposed to set up a school that taught bigotry, racial intolerance, murder and based it all on a book that promotes this lifestyle as being the 'only' way, I face being either, at best, laughed out of town or imprisoned, at worse.

Islam is tolerated here, just as the many other religeons are, on a level playing field. To seek to alter the pitch, in order to
accommodate an imbalance of your own making is, to say th least, delusional.
Islam is only growing as a religeon simply because you, the men, are incapable of allowing women to take charge of their own bodies in order to keep a reasonable birthrate. If it were the case that you didn't receive a Gov't handout for your extra children, above 2, there would be an huge decline in that rate within a few years.

As to your opinion that Arabic is a Modern language only goes to expose your ignorance of your own cultural heritage.

I am quite prepared to bore the backside off the column readers here, by quoting sura and ayat from the quran alone, that would show quite clearly, what it is that you wish to promote in your muslim only schools.
I would be more impressed if you were to seek to promote ways of breaking down the barriers, rather than raising them to an higher level than currently exists.
I'm confused as to what is being promoted here, since there appear to be mixed messages in what is being promoted. You want a multilingual muslim teachers, teaching muslim values to muslim children, is that what you are saying? If that is the case, what is the purpose of the plethora of muslim madrassa in the town? It had always been my impression that these places existence was founded on where muslim children are given exactly what you now expect mainstream schools to provide. Being muslim is a lifestyle choice which has no place in schools, like any other religeon. What is promulgated flies in the face of everything that has been done in this country to make being different, acceptable. If I proposed to set up a school that taught bigotry, racial intolerance, murder and based it all on a book that promotes this lifestyle as being the 'only' way, I face being either, at best, laughed out of town or imprisoned, at worse. Islam is tolerated here, just as the many other religeons are, on a level playing field. To seek to alter the pitch, in order to accommodate an imbalance of your own making is, to say th least, delusional. Islam is only growing as a religeon simply because you, the men, are incapable of allowing women to take charge of their own bodies in order to keep a reasonable birthrate. If it were the case that you didn't receive a Gov't handout for your extra children, above 2, there would be an huge decline in that rate within a few years. As to your opinion that Arabic is a Modern language only goes to expose your ignorance of your own cultural heritage. I am quite prepared to bore the backside off the column readers here, by quoting sura and ayat from the quran alone, that would show quite clearly, what it is that you wish to promote in your muslim only schools. I would be more impressed if you were to seek to promote ways of breaking down the barriers, rather than raising them to an higher level than currently exists. woolywords
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10:15am Wed 25 Apr 12

Billypieman says...

Iftikhar wrote:
According to the Education Act of 1944, children should be educated according the needs and demands of the parents. Majority of Muslim parents would like to send their children to Muslim schools. Have a look at the lengthy waiting lists.

Truth is always bitter. You must learn to listen to those who are culturally, linguistically and spiritually differnt. Education is should be more than providing pupils with the skills they need to get a job or enter university: we should not forget that we have a duty to pass on a body of knowledge through generations

British schools are not doing enough to tackle racism and promote race relations. Many teachers are unaware of racist attitudes amongst pupils. Schools have a responsibility not only to deal with racist incidents but also to prepare pupils for life in a multicultural and multiracial society.

Children from minority groups, especially the Muslims, are exposed to the pressure of racism, multiculturalism and bullying. They suffer academically, culturally and linguistically: a high proportion of children of Pakistani and Bangladeshi origin are leaving British schools with low grades or no qualification.

In the 80s, the Muslim community in Britain started to set up Muslim schools. The first was the London School of Islamics which I established and which operating from 1981-86. Now there are 170 and only 12 are state funded.

The needs and demands of Muslim children can be met only through Muslim schools, but education is an expensive business and the Muslim community does not have the resources to set up schools for each and every child, and only eight Muslim schools have achieved grant maintained status.

This leaves a majority of children from Muslim families with no choice but to attend state schools. There are hundreds of state schools where Muslim pupils are in majority. In my opinion, all such schools may be opted out as Muslim Academies with bilingual Muslim teachers as role models.

Prince Charles, while visiting the first grant maintained Muslim school in north London, said that the pupils would be the future ambassadors of Islam. But what about thousands of others, who attend state schools deemed to be "sink schools"?

The time has come for the Muslim community - in the form of Islamic charities and trusts - to manage and run those state schools where Muslim pupils are in the majority. The Department for Education would be responsible for funding, inspection and maintenance.

The management would be in the hands of educated professional Muslims. The teaching of Arabic, Islamic studies, Urdu and other community languages by qualified Muslim teachers would help the pupils to develop an Islamic identity, which is crucial for mental, emotional and personality development.

In the east London borough of Newham, there are at least 10 state schools where Muslim pupils are in the majority.

The television newscaster Sir Trevor McDonald is a champion of introducing foreign modern languages even at primary level in schools in Britain. The Muslim community would like to see Arabic, Urdu and other community languages introduced at nursery, primary and secondary schools along with European languages so that Muslim pupils have these options.

In education, there should be a choice and at present it is denied to the Muslim community. In the late 80s and early 90s, when I floated the idea of Muslim community schools, I was declared a "school hijacker" by an editorial in the Newham Recorder newspaper in east London.
There are lots of Muslim schools in Pakistan and other Muslim countries. Please feel free to apply for a place for your kids at one of them. That way we are all happy.
[quote][p][bold]Iftikhar[/bold] wrote: According to the Education Act of 1944, children should be educated according the needs and demands of the parents. Majority of Muslim parents would like to send their children to Muslim schools. Have a look at the lengthy waiting lists. Truth is always bitter. You must learn to listen to those who are culturally, linguistically and spiritually differnt. Education is should be more than providing pupils with the skills they need to get a job or enter university: we should not forget that we have a duty to pass on a body of knowledge through generations British schools are not doing enough to tackle racism and promote race relations. Many teachers are unaware of racist attitudes amongst pupils. Schools have a responsibility not only to deal with racist incidents but also to prepare pupils for life in a multicultural and multiracial society. Children from minority groups, especially the Muslims, are exposed to the pressure of racism, multiculturalism and bullying. They suffer academically, culturally and linguistically: a high proportion of children of Pakistani and Bangladeshi origin are leaving British schools with low grades or no qualification. In the 80s, the Muslim community in Britain started to set up Muslim schools. The first was the London School of Islamics which I established and which operating from 1981-86. Now there are 170 and only 12 are state funded. The needs and demands of Muslim children can be met only through Muslim schools, but education is an expensive business and the Muslim community does not have the resources to set up schools for each and every child, and only eight Muslim schools have achieved grant maintained status. This leaves a majority of children from Muslim families with no choice but to attend state schools. There are hundreds of state schools where Muslim pupils are in majority. In my opinion, all such schools may be opted out as Muslim Academies with bilingual Muslim teachers as role models. Prince Charles, while visiting the first grant maintained Muslim school in north London, said that the pupils would be the future ambassadors of Islam. But what about thousands of others, who attend state schools deemed to be "sink schools"? The time has come for the Muslim community - in the form of Islamic charities and trusts - to manage and run those state schools where Muslim pupils are in the majority. The Department for Education would be responsible for funding, inspection and maintenance. The management would be in the hands of educated professional Muslims. The teaching of Arabic, Islamic studies, Urdu and other community languages by qualified Muslim teachers would help the pupils to develop an Islamic identity, which is crucial for mental, emotional and personality development. In the east London borough of Newham, there are at least 10 state schools where Muslim pupils are in the majority. The television newscaster Sir Trevor McDonald is a champion of introducing foreign modern languages even at primary level in schools in Britain. The Muslim community would like to see Arabic, Urdu and other community languages introduced at nursery, primary and secondary schools along with European languages so that Muslim pupils have these options. In education, there should be a choice and at present it is denied to the Muslim community. In the late 80s and early 90s, when I floated the idea of Muslim community schools, I was declared a "school hijacker" by an editorial in the Newham Recorder newspaper in east London.[/p][/quote]There are lots of Muslim schools in Pakistan and other Muslim countries. Please feel free to apply for a place for your kids at one of them. That way we are all happy. Billypieman
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10:39am Wed 25 Apr 12

philmoulden says...

Iftikhar wrote:
A Muslim is a citizen of this tiny global village. He does not want to become notoriously monolingual Brit. A Muslim child learns and be well versed in Standard English to follow the National; Curriculum and go for higher studies and research to serve humanity. At the same time he learns and be well versed in Arabic, Urdu and other community languages to keep in touch with his cultural heritage and enjoy the beauty of his literature and poetry.

Bilingual Muslim children need state funded Muslim schools with bilingual Muslim teachers as role models during their developmental periods. There is no place for a non-Muslim child or a teacher in a Muslim schools. There are hundreds of state and church schools where Muslim children are in majority. In my opinion, all such schools may be opted out as Muslim Academies.
IA
http://www.londonsch

oolofislamics.org.uk
Monolingual Brits ? ENGLISH is spoken all over the world ,america ,australia ,africa ,asia ,south america ,canada ,have i missed any continents ,many far flung islands of this world speak ,ENGLISH ,you youself speak ENGLISH so ,guten morgan ,buonas diaz ,bonjour ,gudji morger ,asalama lakum ,sawadeeka ,conichuwa ,nee hoi and asta luago.
[quote][p][bold]Iftikhar[/bold] wrote: A Muslim is a citizen of this tiny global village. He does not want to become notoriously monolingual Brit. A Muslim child learns and be well versed in Standard English to follow the National; Curriculum and go for higher studies and research to serve humanity. At the same time he learns and be well versed in Arabic, Urdu and other community languages to keep in touch with his cultural heritage and enjoy the beauty of his literature and poetry. Bilingual Muslim children need state funded Muslim schools with bilingual Muslim teachers as role models during their developmental periods. There is no place for a non-Muslim child or a teacher in a Muslim schools. There are hundreds of state and church schools where Muslim children are in majority. In my opinion, all such schools may be opted out as Muslim Academies. IA http://www.londonsch oolofislamics.org.uk[/p][/quote]Monolingual Brits ? ENGLISH is spoken all over the world ,america ,australia ,africa ,asia ,south america ,canada ,have i missed any continents ,many far flung islands of this world speak ,ENGLISH ,you youself speak ENGLISH so ,guten morgan ,buonas diaz ,bonjour ,gudji morger ,asalama lakum ,sawadeeka ,conichuwa ,nee hoi and asta luago. philmoulden
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10:40am Wed 25 Apr 12

Cheese gnome says...

Billypieman wrote:
Iftikhar wrote:
According to the Education Act of 1944, children should be educated according the needs and demands of the parents. Majority of Muslim parents would like to send their children to Muslim schools. Have a look at the lengthy waiting lists.

Truth is always bitter. You must learn to listen to those who are culturally, linguistically and spiritually differnt. Education is should be more than providing pupils with the skills they need to get a job or enter university: we should not forget that we have a duty to pass on a body of knowledge through generations

British schools are not doing enough to tackle racism and promote race relations. Many teachers are unaware of racist attitudes amongst pupils. Schools have a responsibility not only to deal with racist incidents but also to prepare pupils for life in a multicultural and multiracial society.

Children from minority groups, especially the Muslims, are exposed to the pressure of racism, multiculturalism and bullying. They suffer academically, culturally and linguistically: a high proportion of children of Pakistani and Bangladeshi origin are leaving British schools with low grades or no qualification.

In the 80s, the Muslim community in Britain started to set up Muslim schools. The first was the London School of Islamics which I established and which operating from 1981-86. Now there are 170 and only 12 are state funded.

The needs and demands of Muslim children can be met only through Muslim schools, but education is an expensive business and the Muslim community does not have the resources to set up schools for each and every child, and only eight Muslim schools have achieved grant maintained status.

This leaves a majority of children from Muslim families with no choice but to attend state schools. There are hundreds of state schools where Muslim pupils are in majority. In my opinion, all such schools may be opted out as Muslim Academies with bilingual Muslim teachers as role models.

Prince Charles, while visiting the first grant maintained Muslim school in north London, said that the pupils would be the future ambassadors of Islam. But what about thousands of others, who attend state schools deemed to be "sink schools"?

The time has come for the Muslim community - in the form of Islamic charities and trusts - to manage and run those state schools where Muslim pupils are in the majority. The Department for Education would be responsible for funding, inspection and maintenance.

The management would be in the hands of educated professional Muslims. The teaching of Arabic, Islamic studies, Urdu and other community languages by qualified Muslim teachers would help the pupils to develop an Islamic identity, which is crucial for mental, emotional and personality development.

In the east London borough of Newham, there are at least 10 state schools where Muslim pupils are in the majority.

The television newscaster Sir Trevor McDonald is a champion of introducing foreign modern languages even at primary level in schools in Britain. The Muslim community would like to see Arabic, Urdu and other community languages introduced at nursery, primary and secondary schools along with European languages so that Muslim pupils have these options.

In education, there should be a choice and at present it is denied to the Muslim community. In the late 80s and early 90s, when I floated the idea of Muslim community schools, I was declared a "school hijacker" by an editorial in the Newham Recorder newspaper in east London.
There are lots of Muslim schools in Pakistan and other Muslim countries. Please feel free to apply for a place for your kids at one of them. That way we are all happy.
I agree with billypieman tbh!

For goodness sake though what is happening?
All my twins friends have been sent to different schools, hardly anyone got their first choice. Yet all the none english speaking children got their first choice. MADNESS!!
[quote][p][bold]Billypieman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Iftikhar[/bold] wrote: According to the Education Act of 1944, children should be educated according the needs and demands of the parents. Majority of Muslim parents would like to send their children to Muslim schools. Have a look at the lengthy waiting lists. Truth is always bitter. You must learn to listen to those who are culturally, linguistically and spiritually differnt. Education is should be more than providing pupils with the skills they need to get a job or enter university: we should not forget that we have a duty to pass on a body of knowledge through generations British schools are not doing enough to tackle racism and promote race relations. Many teachers are unaware of racist attitudes amongst pupils. Schools have a responsibility not only to deal with racist incidents but also to prepare pupils for life in a multicultural and multiracial society. Children from minority groups, especially the Muslims, are exposed to the pressure of racism, multiculturalism and bullying. They suffer academically, culturally and linguistically: a high proportion of children of Pakistani and Bangladeshi origin are leaving British schools with low grades or no qualification. In the 80s, the Muslim community in Britain started to set up Muslim schools. The first was the London School of Islamics which I established and which operating from 1981-86. Now there are 170 and only 12 are state funded. The needs and demands of Muslim children can be met only through Muslim schools, but education is an expensive business and the Muslim community does not have the resources to set up schools for each and every child, and only eight Muslim schools have achieved grant maintained status. This leaves a majority of children from Muslim families with no choice but to attend state schools. There are hundreds of state schools where Muslim pupils are in majority. In my opinion, all such schools may be opted out as Muslim Academies with bilingual Muslim teachers as role models. Prince Charles, while visiting the first grant maintained Muslim school in north London, said that the pupils would be the future ambassadors of Islam. But what about thousands of others, who attend state schools deemed to be "sink schools"? The time has come for the Muslim community - in the form of Islamic charities and trusts - to manage and run those state schools where Muslim pupils are in the majority. The Department for Education would be responsible for funding, inspection and maintenance. The management would be in the hands of educated professional Muslims. The teaching of Arabic, Islamic studies, Urdu and other community languages by qualified Muslim teachers would help the pupils to develop an Islamic identity, which is crucial for mental, emotional and personality development. In the east London borough of Newham, there are at least 10 state schools where Muslim pupils are in the majority. The television newscaster Sir Trevor McDonald is a champion of introducing foreign modern languages even at primary level in schools in Britain. The Muslim community would like to see Arabic, Urdu and other community languages introduced at nursery, primary and secondary schools along with European languages so that Muslim pupils have these options. In education, there should be a choice and at present it is denied to the Muslim community. In the late 80s and early 90s, when I floated the idea of Muslim community schools, I was declared a "school hijacker" by an editorial in the Newham Recorder newspaper in east London.[/p][/quote]There are lots of Muslim schools in Pakistan and other Muslim countries. Please feel free to apply for a place for your kids at one of them. That way we are all happy.[/p][/quote]I agree with billypieman tbh! For goodness sake though what is happening? All my twins friends have been sent to different schools, hardly anyone got their first choice. Yet all the none english speaking children got their first choice. MADNESS!! Cheese gnome
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11:12am Wed 25 Apr 12

Iftikhar says...

European laws on what girls and women wear on their heads are encouraging discrimination against Muslims and against a religion that has been part of Europe’s fabric for centuries, Amnesty International says in a new report.
Extremist political movements targeting Muslim practices for criticism have enjoyed a rise in several European countries — as witnessed by French far right leader Marine Le Pen’s surprisingly strong showing in presidential elections this week.

In that climate, the Amnesty report released Tuesday lists a raft of examples of discrimination against Muslims from Spain to the Netherlands and Turkey, spurred on by laws viewed as anti-Islam.

The report, titled “Choice and Prejudice,” pays special attention to national laws or local rules against wearing headscarves or face-covering Islamic veils. France and Belgium ban them outright, as do some towns in Spain and elsewhere.

“Amnesty International is concerned that states have focused so much in recent years on the wearing of full-face veils, as if this practice were the most widespread and compelling form of inequality women in Europe have to face,” the report says.

Proponents, such as French President Nicolas Sarkozy, say face-covering veils imprison women and violate France’s values of equality. France also bans headscarves in schools.

The niqab, a veil with just a slit for the eyes, and the burqa, with a mesh covering for the eyes, are worn only by a very small minority of European Muslims. But banning them creates an atmosphere of suspicion of anyone with visibly Islamic dress, the Amnesty report says.

It cites French Muslim women who wear headscarves, which cover the hair but leave the face exposed, as saying they have experienced epithets and public pressure since Sarkozy started calling for a face-veil ban.

The human rights group spoke to Muslims who have had trouble getting jobs or had to change schools because of discrimination over their head coverings.

The report says Spain and Switzerland, in particular, don’t have strong enough laws against discrimination. Switzerland has banned the construction of new minarets.

In Spain, Amnesty highlighted cases in the northeastern region of Catalonia where Muslims are sometimes obliged to pray in the street because their congregations have grown too big for existing mosques, yet permission to build new ones is denied because local residents have objected. It said at least 40 disputes over new mosques had arisen in Catalonia between 1990 and 2008.

Belgium has seen several legal disputes in recent years involving Muslims who say they lost work because of their headscarves, and Muslim communities barred from building a minaret for their mosques because “this doesn’t fit the landscape,” said Mehmet Saygin of moderate group Muslim Vigilance.

Amnesty urges European authorities to allow mosque-building regardless of whether non-Muslim residents disagree.

“If a proposed Muslim place of worship meets all requirements, public authorities should not deny authorization solely on the grounds that some people living locally may not want a mosque in their neighborhood,” it says.

Many Europeans wrongly assume all Muslims are immigrants, even though Islam has been a leading religion in Europe for centuries, the report notes. That makes the discrimination especially painful for the millions of Muslims born in Europe who are told to “go home” — when they have no other “home” to flee to.

In France, candidate Le Pen and her anti-immigrant National Front party have singled out Muslim practices such as ritual slaughter of animals for criticism.

Conservative Sarkozy has borrowed from Le Pen’s rhetoric as he heads into a runoff vote May 6 with Socialist Francois Hollande. Le Pen scored a strong third place in Sunday’s first-round election, handing her party new political influence ahead of parliamentary elections in June.

European Union officials warned this week against flirting too much with the extreme right and sacrificing European unity, built on the ashes of World War II.

One of the most vivid signs that European authorities have failed to root out a growing Islamophobia was the massacre in Norway last year by a man who fears Muslims are taking over Europe. Images of him defending his rampage in court have been televised across the continent over the past week.
European laws on what girls and women wear on their heads are encouraging discrimination against Muslims and against a religion that has been part of Europe’s fabric for centuries, Amnesty International says in a new report. Extremist political movements targeting Muslim practices for criticism have enjoyed a rise in several European countries — as witnessed by French far right leader Marine Le Pen’s surprisingly strong showing in presidential elections this week. In that climate, the Amnesty report released Tuesday lists a raft of examples of discrimination against Muslims from Spain to the Netherlands and Turkey, spurred on by laws viewed as anti-Islam. The report, titled “Choice and Prejudice,” pays special attention to national laws or local rules against wearing headscarves or face-covering Islamic veils. France and Belgium ban them outright, as do some towns in Spain and elsewhere. “Amnesty International is concerned that states have focused so much in recent years on the wearing of full-face veils, as if this practice were the most widespread and compelling form of inequality women in Europe have to face,” the report says. Proponents, such as French President Nicolas Sarkozy, say face-covering veils imprison women and violate France’s values of equality. France also bans headscarves in schools. The niqab, a veil with just a slit for the eyes, and the burqa, with a mesh covering for the eyes, are worn only by a very small minority of European Muslims. But banning them creates an atmosphere of suspicion of anyone with visibly Islamic dress, the Amnesty report says. It cites French Muslim women who wear headscarves, which cover the hair but leave the face exposed, as saying they have experienced epithets and public pressure since Sarkozy started calling for a face-veil ban. The human rights group spoke to Muslims who have had trouble getting jobs or had to change schools because of discrimination over their head coverings. The report says Spain and Switzerland, in particular, don’t have strong enough laws against discrimination. Switzerland has banned the construction of new minarets. In Spain, Amnesty highlighted cases in the northeastern region of Catalonia where Muslims are sometimes obliged to pray in the street because their congregations have grown too big for existing mosques, yet permission to build new ones is denied because local residents have objected. It said at least 40 disputes over new mosques had arisen in Catalonia between 1990 and 2008. Belgium has seen several legal disputes in recent years involving Muslims who say they lost work because of their headscarves, and Muslim communities barred from building a minaret for their mosques because “this doesn’t fit the landscape,” said Mehmet Saygin of moderate group Muslim Vigilance. Amnesty urges European authorities to allow mosque-building regardless of whether non-Muslim residents disagree. “If a proposed Muslim place of worship meets all requirements, public authorities should not deny authorization solely on the grounds that some people living locally may not want a mosque in their neighborhood,” it says. Many Europeans wrongly assume all Muslims are immigrants, even though Islam has been a leading religion in Europe for centuries, the report notes. That makes the discrimination especially painful for the millions of Muslims born in Europe who are told to “go home” — when they have no other “home” to flee to. In France, candidate Le Pen and her anti-immigrant National Front party have singled out Muslim practices such as ritual slaughter of animals for criticism. Conservative Sarkozy has borrowed from Le Pen’s rhetoric as he heads into a runoff vote May 6 with Socialist Francois Hollande. Le Pen scored a strong third place in Sunday’s first-round election, handing her party new political influence ahead of parliamentary elections in June. European Union officials warned this week against flirting too much with the extreme right and sacrificing European unity, built on the ashes of World War II. One of the most vivid signs that European authorities have failed to root out a growing Islamophobia was the massacre in Norway last year by a man who fears Muslims are taking over Europe. Images of him defending his rampage in court have been televised across the continent over the past week. Iftikhar
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11:58am Wed 25 Apr 12

philmoulden says...

Iftikhar wrote:
European laws on what girls and women wear on their heads are encouraging discrimination against Muslims and against a religion that has been part of Europe’s fabric for centuries, Amnesty International says in a new report.
Extremist political movements targeting Muslim practices for criticism have enjoyed a rise in several European countries — as witnessed by French far right leader Marine Le Pen’s surprisingly strong showing in presidential elections this week.

In that climate, the Amnesty report released Tuesday lists a raft of examples of discrimination against Muslims from Spain to the Netherlands and Turkey, spurred on by laws viewed as anti-Islam.

The report, titled “Choice and Prejudice,” pays special attention to national laws or local rules against wearing headscarves or face-covering Islamic veils. France and Belgium ban them outright, as do some towns in Spain and elsewhere.

“Amnesty International is concerned that states have focused so much in recent years on the wearing of full-face veils, as if this practice were the most widespread and compelling form of inequality women in Europe have to face,” the report says.

Proponents, such as French President Nicolas Sarkozy, say face-covering veils imprison women and violate France’s values of equality. France also bans headscarves in schools.

The niqab, a veil with just a slit for the eyes, and the burqa, with a mesh covering for the eyes, are worn only by a very small minority of European Muslims. But banning them creates an atmosphere of suspicion of anyone with visibly Islamic dress, the Amnesty report says.

It cites French Muslim women who wear headscarves, which cover the hair but leave the face exposed, as saying they have experienced epithets and public pressure since Sarkozy started calling for a face-veil ban.

The human rights group spoke to Muslims who have had trouble getting jobs or had to change schools because of discrimination over their head coverings.

The report says Spain and Switzerland, in particular, don’t have strong enough laws against discrimination. Switzerland has banned the construction of new minarets.

In Spain, Amnesty highlighted cases in the northeastern region of Catalonia where Muslims are sometimes obliged to pray in the street because their congregations have grown too big for existing mosques, yet permission to build new ones is denied because local residents have objected. It said at least 40 disputes over new mosques had arisen in Catalonia between 1990 and 2008.

Belgium has seen several legal disputes in recent years involving Muslims who say they lost work because of their headscarves, and Muslim communities barred from building a minaret for their mosques because “this doesn’t fit the landscape,” said Mehmet Saygin of moderate group Muslim Vigilance.

Amnesty urges European authorities to allow mosque-building regardless of whether non-Muslim residents disagree.

“If a proposed Muslim place of worship meets all requirements, public authorities should not deny authorization solely on the grounds that some people living locally may not want a mosque in their neighborhood,” it says.

Many Europeans wrongly assume all Muslims are immigrants, even though Islam has been a leading religion in Europe for centuries, the report notes. That makes the discrimination especially painful for the millions of Muslims born in Europe who are told to “go home” — when they have no other “home” to flee to.

In France, candidate Le Pen and her anti-immigrant National Front party have singled out Muslim practices such as ritual slaughter of animals for criticism.

Conservative Sarkozy has borrowed from Le Pen’s rhetoric as he heads into a runoff vote May 6 with Socialist Francois Hollande. Le Pen scored a strong third place in Sunday’s first-round election, handing her party new political influence ahead of parliamentary elections in June.

European Union officials warned this week against flirting too much with the extreme right and sacrificing European unity, built on the ashes of World War II.

One of the most vivid signs that European authorities have failed to root out a growing Islamophobia was the massacre in Norway last year by a man who fears Muslims are taking over Europe. Images of him defending his rampage in court have been televised across the continent over the past week.
Is it any wonder ,I really dont give a Sh!t about your needs,topics, demands ,greed and selfishness .if there was less people making noises like yourself ,this world would live more in harmony .
[quote][p][bold]Iftikhar[/bold] wrote: European laws on what girls and women wear on their heads are encouraging discrimination against Muslims and against a religion that has been part of Europe’s fabric for centuries, Amnesty International says in a new report. Extremist political movements targeting Muslim practices for criticism have enjoyed a rise in several European countries — as witnessed by French far right leader Marine Le Pen’s surprisingly strong showing in presidential elections this week. In that climate, the Amnesty report released Tuesday lists a raft of examples of discrimination against Muslims from Spain to the Netherlands and Turkey, spurred on by laws viewed as anti-Islam. The report, titled “Choice and Prejudice,” pays special attention to national laws or local rules against wearing headscarves or face-covering Islamic veils. France and Belgium ban them outright, as do some towns in Spain and elsewhere. “Amnesty International is concerned that states have focused so much in recent years on the wearing of full-face veils, as if this practice were the most widespread and compelling form of inequality women in Europe have to face,” the report says. Proponents, such as French President Nicolas Sarkozy, say face-covering veils imprison women and violate France’s values of equality. France also bans headscarves in schools. The niqab, a veil with just a slit for the eyes, and the burqa, with a mesh covering for the eyes, are worn only by a very small minority of European Muslims. But banning them creates an atmosphere of suspicion of anyone with visibly Islamic dress, the Amnesty report says. It cites French Muslim women who wear headscarves, which cover the hair but leave the face exposed, as saying they have experienced epithets and public pressure since Sarkozy started calling for a face-veil ban. The human rights group spoke to Muslims who have had trouble getting jobs or had to change schools because of discrimination over their head coverings. The report says Spain and Switzerland, in particular, don’t have strong enough laws against discrimination. Switzerland has banned the construction of new minarets. In Spain, Amnesty highlighted cases in the northeastern region of Catalonia where Muslims are sometimes obliged to pray in the street because their congregations have grown too big for existing mosques, yet permission to build new ones is denied because local residents have objected. It said at least 40 disputes over new mosques had arisen in Catalonia between 1990 and 2008. Belgium has seen several legal disputes in recent years involving Muslims who say they lost work because of their headscarves, and Muslim communities barred from building a minaret for their mosques because “this doesn’t fit the landscape,” said Mehmet Saygin of moderate group Muslim Vigilance. Amnesty urges European authorities to allow mosque-building regardless of whether non-Muslim residents disagree. “If a proposed Muslim place of worship meets all requirements, public authorities should not deny authorization solely on the grounds that some people living locally may not want a mosque in their neighborhood,” it says. Many Europeans wrongly assume all Muslims are immigrants, even though Islam has been a leading religion in Europe for centuries, the report notes. That makes the discrimination especially painful for the millions of Muslims born in Europe who are told to “go home” — when they have no other “home” to flee to. In France, candidate Le Pen and her anti-immigrant National Front party have singled out Muslim practices such as ritual slaughter of animals for criticism. Conservative Sarkozy has borrowed from Le Pen’s rhetoric as he heads into a runoff vote May 6 with Socialist Francois Hollande. Le Pen scored a strong third place in Sunday’s first-round election, handing her party new political influence ahead of parliamentary elections in June. European Union officials warned this week against flirting too much with the extreme right and sacrificing European unity, built on the ashes of World War II. One of the most vivid signs that European authorities have failed to root out a growing Islamophobia was the massacre in Norway last year by a man who fears Muslims are taking over Europe. Images of him defending his rampage in court have been televised across the continent over the past week.[/p][/quote]Is it any wonder ,I really dont give a Sh!t about your needs,topics, demands ,greed and selfishness .if there was less people making noises like yourself ,this world would live more in harmony . philmoulden
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8:30pm Wed 25 Apr 12

sen c bl says...

Ifty, shut your gob you recently released clown and give-over referring to that over sized directory you've got cramped up your back hole. Now F*** OFF
Ifty, shut your gob you recently released clown and give-over referring to that over sized directory you've got cramped up your back hole. Now F*** OFF sen c bl
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8:56pm Wed 25 Apr 12

Iftikhar says...

Mind your language. There is no need to use dirty language. By using filthy language in your response I am not going to change my opinion. Peoples like you must learn manners.

Peoples like you DON'T LIKE GYPSIES EITHER AND HATE ASIANS WHO SCORE TOP MARKS IN SCHOOL. THE DISCRIMINATION IS NOT TARGETED AGAINST MUSLIMS ONLY BUT ANYONE OF COLOR. THEY ALSO DON'T LIKE HINDUS WITH THEIR BLOB OF PAINT ON THEIR FOREHEAD OR SIKHS WITH THEIR TURBANS.
Mind your language. There is no need to use dirty language. By using filthy language in your response I am not going to change my opinion. Peoples like you must learn manners. Peoples like you DON'T LIKE GYPSIES EITHER AND HATE ASIANS WHO SCORE TOP MARKS IN SCHOOL. THE DISCRIMINATION IS NOT TARGETED AGAINST MUSLIMS ONLY BUT ANYONE OF COLOR. THEY ALSO DON'T LIKE HINDUS WITH THEIR BLOB OF PAINT ON THEIR FOREHEAD OR SIKHS WITH THEIR TURBANS. Iftikhar
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5:49pm Thu 26 Apr 12

sen c bl says...

You are well aware this sensitive topic you have arrogantly and deliberately raised, is a signal you want trouble.
If you consider it winnable you're in fantasy dream land. It only encourages further hatred and divisions, setting your community back a further 20 years.
Successful intellectuals within your community never progressed in the absolute stupidity approach, as yours.

This is exactly what your community lacks and at present, leaders representing your community are all selfish and expecting more than what they can digest.

So p*****f and do something useful with your free time.
You are well aware this sensitive topic you have arrogantly and deliberately raised, is a signal you want trouble. If you consider it winnable you're in fantasy dream land. It only encourages further hatred and divisions, setting your community back a further 20 years. Successful intellectuals within your community never progressed in the absolute stupidity approach, as yours. This is exactly what your community lacks and at present, leaders representing your community are all selfish and expecting more than what they can digest. So p*****f and do something useful with your free time. sen c bl
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8:35am Fri 27 Apr 12

philmoulden says...

Iftikhar wrote:
Mind your language. There is no need to use dirty language. By using filthy language in your response I am not going to change my opinion. Peoples like you must learn manners.

Peoples like you DON'T LIKE GYPSIES EITHER AND HATE ASIANS WHO SCORE TOP MARKS IN SCHOOL. THE DISCRIMINATION IS NOT TARGETED AGAINST MUSLIMS ONLY BUT ANYONE OF COLOR. THEY ALSO DON'T LIKE HINDUS WITH THEIR BLOB OF PAINT ON THEIR FOREHEAD OR SIKHS WITH THEIR TURBANS.
its you whos racist ,your first comments named our proud town as a global village and calling us monolingual brits ,actually i dont mind because you are the minority ,many of us live in harmony ,why dont you just join us and live together without making so much noise ,relax and live life free of burden ,take what is given to you with a happy heart ,dont bite the hand that feeds you and dont make demands on a nation that has welcomed all races with open arms .
[quote][p][bold]Iftikhar[/bold] wrote: Mind your language. There is no need to use dirty language. By using filthy language in your response I am not going to change my opinion. Peoples like you must learn manners. Peoples like you DON'T LIKE GYPSIES EITHER AND HATE ASIANS WHO SCORE TOP MARKS IN SCHOOL. THE DISCRIMINATION IS NOT TARGETED AGAINST MUSLIMS ONLY BUT ANYONE OF COLOR. THEY ALSO DON'T LIKE HINDUS WITH THEIR BLOB OF PAINT ON THEIR FOREHEAD OR SIKHS WITH THEIR TURBANS.[/p][/quote]its you whos racist ,your first comments named our proud town as a global village and calling us monolingual brits ,actually i dont mind because you are the minority ,many of us live in harmony ,why dont you just join us and live together without making so much noise ,relax and live life free of burden ,take what is given to you with a happy heart ,dont bite the hand that feeds you and dont make demands on a nation that has welcomed all races with open arms . philmoulden
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9:06am Fri 27 Apr 12

sen c bl says...

philmoulden the Great. Magnifico.
philmoulden the Great. Magnifico. sen c bl
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10:17pm Fri 27 Apr 12

slipslider says...

Sikhs don't demand their own schools, laws, food etc and neither do Hindu's. They just teach their children their culture, languages, art, history and religion in its proper places - the home and their places of worship. They don't demand, they don't play the race card, they don't expect everyone else to give and give and give without giving themselves. They are prepared to compromise and which is why Sikhs and Hindus are technically respected in the local community.
Sikhs don't demand their own schools, laws, food etc and neither do Hindu's. They just teach their children their culture, languages, art, history and religion in its proper places - the home and their places of worship. They don't demand, they don't play the race card, they don't expect everyone else to give and give and give without giving themselves. They are prepared to compromise and which is why Sikhs and Hindus are technically respected in the local community. slipslider
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1:39pm Sat 28 Apr 12

sen c bl says...

There you go Ifty, another decent comment from Slipslider.

Get the point!!!
There you go Ifty, another decent comment from Slipslider. Get the point!!! sen c bl
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12:36pm Tue 1 May 12

Iftikhar says...

slipslider wrote:
Sikhs don't demand their own schools, laws, food etc and neither do Hindu's. They just teach their children their culture, languages, art, history and religion in its proper places - the home and their places of worship. They don't demand, they don't play the race card, they don't expect everyone else to give and give and give without giving themselves. They are prepared to compromise and which is why Sikhs and Hindus are technically respected in the local community.
People are people, regardless of where they were born, what color their skin is, or whatever religion. All deserve respect.

Immigrants live in ghetto's and Swedes/Brits will move out of an entire street if one coloured person or muslim moves in.

Tolerance in Sweden/Britain is an illusion.

The problem isn't immigrants not adapting to British culture, it's Brits showing much disrespect and scorn to those who are of any immigrant background. even if an immigrant was well versed in English, knew the customs etc. would they still get employment? No. Would Brits treat them as a decent human? No.

So why would they want to assimilate into a culture that is constantly tearing them down?

There are now four state funded Sikh schools and one state funded Hindu school in Harrow and next year a Hindu state funded Muslim schools would be set up in Leicester. Even black community is thinking of setting up its own schools with its own teachers because British schooling is the home of institutional racism.

Demand for Islamic education in England is growing fast and schools – official and unofficial – are springing up to meet it. Now some local authorities are concerned that there is insufficient regulation. Although the number of Islamic schools is still small – around 168 at the latest count, just 12 of them state-funded – it is growing fast. About 60 of these schools have opened in the last 10 years; several in the last couple of months. And the demand from parents seems to be huge – one school in Birmingham recently attracted 1,500 applications for just 60 places. At least five Islamic schools have recently applied to be free schools, although so far only one has been approved. Islam promotes seeking knowledge as a form of worship, and things like "memorising the Quran" are rewardable. That makes memorising anything else look eas. Muslims live up to a certain strict code which parents enforce on their children, thereby making them adhere to their schoolwork more than their non-religious counterparts. Islam puts a massive emphasis on education and its essentially part of the religion itself since its Sunnah (following in the manners of the Prophet (pbuh)) but also a lot of the pupils will be from ethnic minority families and stereotypes aside its no secret that they encourage their children to excel in their exams and whatnot

As far As English language is concerned, nobody is denying its value and focus should be on helping people learning English. Migrant community believes that an English language skill is key to ensuring equal access to services, opportunities and personal independence. The economic and social survival of bilingual Muslim community depends on English language but not at the cost of its mother tongue. It is a crime against humanity to deprive a community from its native tongue and cultural heritage. Muslim community is bilingual and does not believe in becoming monolingual Brits.

Bilingualism is an asset and not a problem. DFE is spending millions so that young generation could learn a foreign language, including Arabic and Urdu. The survival of British Muslim community depends on learning English, Arabic, Urdu and other community languages for their economic, social, emotional and spiritual prosperity. The London Borough of Newham has stopped community papers not for reducing spending but to force Muslims to read only English papers. Tomorrow, the council will stop teaching foreign languages in schools. It will also force Mosques and Imams to read Quran and perform all prayers in English, instead of Arabic. The stupid British politicians have already asked migrant families to use English at home with their children.

I'm not sure how learning English will help stop extremism either, many of those who have carried out/plotted atrocities have been highly educated. Speaking English does not promote integration into British society, and broaden opportunities. English speaking Muslims still face discrimination in jobs, education and housing. English speaking Muslim youths are angry, frustrated and extremist, thanks to English language. English language is not only a lingua franca but also lingua frankensteinia. Human right also covers linguistic right. Cultural and linguistic genocide are very common. British schooling is murdering community languages like Arabic, Urdu and others. English is today the world killer language. Linguistic genocide is a crime against humanity and British schooling is guilty of committing this crime.
IA
[quote][p][bold]slipslider[/bold] wrote: Sikhs don't demand their own schools, laws, food etc and neither do Hindu's. They just teach their children their culture, languages, art, history and religion in its proper places - the home and their places of worship. They don't demand, they don't play the race card, they don't expect everyone else to give and give and give without giving themselves. They are prepared to compromise and which is why Sikhs and Hindus are technically respected in the local community.[/p][/quote]People are people, regardless of where they were born, what color their skin is, or whatever religion. All deserve respect. Immigrants live in ghetto's and Swedes/Brits will move out of an entire street if one coloured person or muslim moves in. Tolerance in Sweden/Britain is an illusion. The problem isn't immigrants not adapting to British culture, it's Brits showing much disrespect and scorn to those who are of any immigrant background. even if an immigrant was well versed in English, knew the customs etc. would they still get employment? No. Would Brits treat them as a decent human? No. So why would they want to assimilate into a culture that is constantly tearing them down? There are now four state funded Sikh schools and one state funded Hindu school in Harrow and next year a Hindu state funded Muslim schools would be set up in Leicester. Even black community is thinking of setting up its own schools with its own teachers because British schooling is the home of institutional racism. Demand for Islamic education in England is growing fast and schools – official and unofficial – are springing up to meet it. Now some local authorities are concerned that there is insufficient regulation. Although the number of Islamic schools is still small – around 168 at the latest count, just 12 of them state-funded – it is growing fast. About 60 of these schools have opened in the last 10 years; several in the last couple of months. And the demand from parents seems to be huge – one school in Birmingham recently attracted 1,500 applications for just 60 places. At least five Islamic schools have recently applied to be free schools, although so far only one has been approved. Islam promotes seeking knowledge as a form of worship, and things like "memorising the Quran" are rewardable. That makes memorising anything else look eas. Muslims live up to a certain strict code which parents enforce on their children, thereby making them adhere to their schoolwork more than their non-religious counterparts. Islam puts a massive emphasis on education and its essentially part of the religion itself since its Sunnah (following in the manners of the Prophet (pbuh)) but also a lot of the pupils will be from ethnic minority families and stereotypes aside its no secret that they encourage their children to excel in their exams and whatnot As far As English language is concerned, nobody is denying its value and focus should be on helping people learning English. Migrant community believes that an English language skill is key to ensuring equal access to services, opportunities and personal independence. The economic and social survival of bilingual Muslim community depends on English language but not at the cost of its mother tongue. It is a crime against humanity to deprive a community from its native tongue and cultural heritage. Muslim community is bilingual and does not believe in becoming monolingual Brits. Bilingualism is an asset and not a problem. DFE is spending millions so that young generation could learn a foreign language, including Arabic and Urdu. The survival of British Muslim community depends on learning English, Arabic, Urdu and other community languages for their economic, social, emotional and spiritual prosperity. The London Borough of Newham has stopped community papers not for reducing spending but to force Muslims to read only English papers. Tomorrow, the council will stop teaching foreign languages in schools. It will also force Mosques and Imams to read Quran and perform all prayers in English, instead of Arabic. The stupid British politicians have already asked migrant families to use English at home with their children. I'm not sure how learning English will help stop extremism either, many of those who have carried out/plotted atrocities have been highly educated. Speaking English does not promote integration into British society, and broaden opportunities. English speaking Muslims still face discrimination in jobs, education and housing. English speaking Muslim youths are angry, frustrated and extremist, thanks to English language. English language is not only a lingua franca but also lingua frankensteinia. Human right also covers linguistic right. Cultural and linguistic genocide are very common. British schooling is murdering community languages like Arabic, Urdu and others. English is today the world killer language. Linguistic genocide is a crime against humanity and British schooling is guilty of committing this crime. IA Iftikhar
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