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Police set up new base at Burnley college
7:50pm Friday 5th March 2010 in
A POLICE office has opened at Burnley Campus to improve the service being offered to residents of Daneshouse and Stoneyholme.
The new office in Barden Lane will be manned by the local neighbourhood policing team throughout the day and will work with students and the local community.
PC Ivan Brown, community beat manager for Daneshouse and Stoneyholme, said the office was a more informal setting.
“Due to the population being predominantly Asian we are struggling to get members of the community to come to the station,” he said.
“This is an ideal base for people to come and speak to us more informally and be more comfortable with it.
“Coming to the main police station for a formal interview can put people off, so hopefully people will prefer coming to somewhere well known in the community.
“People can come to the office anytime. Even if we aren’t in they can just a leave note for us to call them back or leave a note with any information they have.”
There will be two PCSOs and PC Brown based at the office, which will open the same hours as the campus, until around 10pm.
PC Brown said having a base on campus also allowed officers to work more closely with students at Thomas Whitham Sixth Form.
He said: “We already work with the campus and the college quite closely, such as holding talks about road safety.
“But this allows us to be on site should any incident occur and we can respond to any problems on the campus very quickly.
“When the idea was mentioned staff at the campus were very keen for us to set up here.”
Comments(28)
dadada
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8:46pm Fri 5 Mar 10
Burnley student
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9:52pm Fri 5 Mar 10
Akon, Your racist and out of touch comments shock and disgust at the same time, thankfully your in the minority!
I'm not sure what issues on campus the police team refer to but anything that helps the local community is better than nothing.
In regards to 'special treatment' many areas now have these extra bases, for example Hameldon High School has one, an area decidedly less diverse!
Lancs Tel need to get their facts right again though, we're not a college!
snitch
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11:37pm Fri 5 Mar 10
duke bar
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11:26am Sat 6 Mar 10
Back then immigrants were not that welcome the same as today some could say.The Irish suffered raciasm back then
The one difference is the Grandchildren from these Scottish and Irish immigrants do not go round saying they are Irish or Scottish.
Unlike the grandchildren from the Pakistani and Bangledeshi immigrants who say they are Asian.Most are 3rd generation Irish or Pakistani who live in Burnley today .
St Patricks day and football matches make the immigrants be proud of their roots ,but they do not have special treatment from the Government or the Council unlike people who,s roots are from Asia.
This is whats wrong everyone should be treated as equal .Then adapt to the land your living in.
Theres should be no need for special treatment.
RAyzer
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1:42pm Sat 6 Mar 10
al of the police and this government...why up there but nowere else???you ring police there either to busy,or just dont turn up.......remember at voting time...
akon
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2:43pm Sat 6 Mar 10
Your name says it all 'student' another idle braindead non-worker in the making !!
Get some life down your neck before coming out with silly , little spoiled brat comments !!
K!!
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4:12pm Sat 6 Mar 10
How can you call him/her idle and braindead? They are studying!!
What exactly do you do apart from talk crap? Think you could be braindead aswell as a n0b head!
Good luck with your studies Burnley Student.
RAyzer
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5:34pm Sat 6 Mar 10
K!! wrote:most students end up as drop outs....65% in fact!!!!and all are in debt,part of Englands probs are these drop outs...no respect for there elders or others oppinions
Akon. I agree with eveything Burnley student said, especially the fact that you are racist.
How can you call him/her idle and braindead? They are studying!!
What exactly do you do apart from talk crap? Think you could be braindead aswell as a n0b head!
Good luck with your studies Burnley Student.
Burnley student
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5:52pm Sat 6 Mar 10
Surely to call me brain dead Akon is somewhat hypocritical?
I'm intrigued by how we as society split the town in racial areas, having been at the sixth form for 18 months I wouldn't associate the surrounding area as a purely heritage area, yes diverse, but no purely Asian?
bulldogbrfc
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7:10pm Sat 6 Mar 10
bulldogbrfc
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7:10pm Sat 6 Mar 10
Burnley student
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7:40pm Sat 6 Mar 10
For example one of my friends is a Muslim so last week I went to his mosque as he prayed and I got welcomed with open arms and they were intrigued by how we live, It shows that many perceptions are just barriers that many sides impose on ourselves?
We've moved on from the topic at hand but perhaps in general instead of fearing diversity we ought to embrace it?
duke bar
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3:40am Sun 7 Mar 10
Just likes the1000s of folk from Irish and Scottish descent who live and were born in Burnley whos grandparents were not born in England......
WHY THE BIG FUSS.. EH
Izanears
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4:57pm Sun 7 Mar 10
K!!
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5:16pm Sun 7 Mar 10
Izanears wrote:Really....how?
Don't bother opening up a base in the campus for those who won't go to the police station, just provide a taxi for them. After all, we carry them about for just about everything else.
akon
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12:37pm Mon 8 Mar 10
**** !!
Burnley Student GET A JOB & A F*CKING BRAIN .
Another waste of fresh air !!
K!!
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3:07pm Mon 8 Mar 10
akon wrote:If they didn't have a brain they wouldn't be at sixth form!!
K!!,
**** !!
Burnley Student GET A JOB & A F*CKING BRAIN .
Another waste of fresh air !!
It's you who needs to get a brain and a life.
How can you b*tch about a person who is clearly trying to make a go of their life, get qualifications and hopefully in the future get a decent job.
You appear to be a bitter, jealous, narrow minded sorry excuse for a human being. That's aswell as being a racist pig!!
Burnley student
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6:21pm Mon 8 Mar 10
duke bar
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8:31pm Mon 8 Mar 10
Why do you not comment on what i said...YOU DON,T . Its because its true...........
I am not racist .I am just correct in what i wrote.
K!!
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10:26pm Mon 8 Mar 10
Have you ever come across a race equality questionaire? I received one from a company. I had to tick which I am. The options includes White British, British Pakistani, British Bengali... And many more.
There wasn't an option where you could just tick British.
I'd like to know how Asian people get special treatment from the council. I'm not aware of that. Could you give me an example please.
duke bar
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9:43am Tue 9 Mar 10
If your born in England your ENGLISH.They went to Schools in England just like other English kids
You must realise that is the problem.
You can not have 2 ideniteys.There should be no such word as Asian this and Asian that.
Everyone who is born in England is English .Everyone who was born in Burnley is from Burnley.
Its no point having a special Police station for 1 part of Burnley and not the other.WE ARE STRUGGLING TO GET MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY TO COME TO THE STATION. This is what it says above.
Maybe we should have another Police station in Burnley wood because they are to lazy or to tired to come to the Police Station in Town.
This is what i mean by special TREATMENT.
Captain Kickoff
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12:12pm Wed 10 Mar 10
Burnley student wrote:Burnley student, you said "anything that helps the local community is better than nothing". Are you saying that till this police office opened there was nothing in the community around there? What about PACT meetings and Neighbourhood Management meetings, etc? It's also the only area of town to have Women Only meetings. I can assure you that there has been plenty of opportunity for people to make contact with the police without having to open an office. I think you need to make sure you don't forget the other people who have been providing services in the area for many years.
HAHA!!! How can you guys be so so sadly wrong!
Akon, Your racist and out of touch comments shock and disgust at the same time, thankfully your in the minority!
I'm not sure what issues on campus the police team refer to but anything that helps the local community is better than nothing.
In regards to 'special treatment' many areas now have these extra bases, for example Hameldon High School has one, an area decidedly less diverse!
Lancs Tel need to get their facts right again though, we're not a college!
You also point out that Hameldon has police on-site. There is something very wrong with the young people of today if we have to have police bases in our learning facilities!
Burnley student
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12:43pm Wed 10 Mar 10
I didn't say the work already done was futile, as you correctly quoted me I said 'anything that helps', by that I meant any new service aimed at helping the community along with current services must be of help.
Don't forget these guys do petty things as well such as handing out fines for litter dropping etc so they aren't simply 'terrorist hunting' as has been previously suggested by other users.
I think Hameldon was unique with it's situation, but the main purpose of these offices is to be closer to the communities rather than stuck in the town centre, which is why placing them in schools is really convenient, plus if young people are brought up seeing the police as a helpful force then perhaps in a few decades time when we are the 'adults' of the world we may have different attitude..
Captain Kickoff
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1:23pm Wed 10 Mar 10
Burnley student wrote:No, you didn't say the work was "futile", you said "better than nothing", which implies no one was doing this work prior to this. The S&D policing team are one of the most pro-active I have come across in the Borough.
Capaitain kickoff,
I didn't say the work already done was futile, as you correctly quoted me I said 'anything that helps', by that I meant any new service aimed at helping the community along with current services must be of help.
Don't forget these guys do petty things as well such as handing out fines for litter dropping etc so they aren't simply 'terrorist hunting' as has been previously suggested by other users.
I think Hameldon was unique with it's situation, but the main purpose of these offices is to be closer to the communities rather than stuck in the town centre, which is why placing them in schools is really convenient, plus if young people are brought up seeing the police as a helpful force then perhaps in a few decades time when we are the 'adults' of the world we may have different attitude..
Sorry, where did I mention terrorists? I think you'll find I didn't. I think it's got more to do with the fact that generally young people don't seem to have the same level of respect for their surroundings and community as they did a generation ago, and that includes a lack of respect for the police who are there to 'protect and serve', not be "helpful" or to teach your kids right from wrong - that's a parent's job.
I'm very concerned that you find handing out fines for litter to be "petty". It's an offence under section 87 of the Environmental Protection Act 1990 to "leave litter". Dropping litter is a sign that you don't respect your community enough to keep it clean. Quite frankly, it's about time more tickets were issued for litter dropping, dog fouling etc. They are criminal offences for a good reason and need enforcing.
I think you'll also find that Hameldon isn't the only school with PCSOs on site. If they aren't at Sir John Thursby too I must have seen a mirage...
Burnley student
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1:49pm Wed 10 Mar 10
akon wrote:Sorry Captain Kickoff, I wasn't saying you had said this, but another user has and seeing that this is a public debate we ought to listen to everybody's views.
Is this a case of the police keeping an eye on young would-be terrorists.
Spotting them early ?
I think the debate has got quite pointless, not sure where to start? debating whether litter dropping is a petty crime in comparison to drug dealing, or if 'helping' and 'serving' are the same meaning..
For clarification PC Ivan Brown is part of the S&D unit, this service is simply moving from a town centre base to a community base.
Captain Kickoff
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5:05pm Wed 10 Mar 10
Burnley student wrote:At the end of the day, a crime is a crime, whether it is a serious crime or a minor crime, but crime certainly breeds crime. Of course drug dealing is more serious than dropping litter, that's why they don't give a fixed penalty for dealing drugs or a prison sentence for dropping a cigarette butt.
akon wrote:Sorry Captain Kickoff, I wasn't saying you had said this, but another user has and seeing that this is a public debate we ought to listen to everybody's views.
Is this a case of the police keeping an eye on young would-be terrorists.
Spotting them early ?
I think the debate has got quite pointless, not sure where to start? debating whether litter dropping is a petty crime in comparison to drug dealing, or if 'helping' and 'serving' are the same meaning..
For clarification PC Ivan Brown is part of the S&D unit, this service is simply moving from a town centre base to a community base.
I think maybe you feel that this debate has become pointless because you have got caught out belittling the effects of petty crime on an area! Why don't you offer to go out on the the next Neighbourhood Management litter pick and we'll see what your opinion is after a few of those. I'm sure Kaye Mahoney will happily arm you with a bin bag and picker!
Just for clarification, major difference between 'helpful' and 'serving'; look it up in a dictionary. Being more aware of the correct use of language will also help you with those studies ;) Maybe a look at crime and deviance wouldn't hurt either - it will explain why not caring about dropped litter and and dog fouling is the start of the slippery slope to drug dealers appearing when deviance becomes the norm...
Chris P Bacon
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1:40pm Sun 14 Mar 10
akon wrote:a brain? For you I assume you're asking for it as it's abundantly clear your head is far removed from one.
K!!,
**** !!
Burnley Student GET A JOB & A F*CKING BRAIN .
Another waste of fresh air !!
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akon says...
8:09pm Fri 5 Mar 10
Spotting them early ?