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Council to contact Darwen disc parking objectors

5:26pm Sunday 13th April 2008

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By Catherine Pye »

COUNCIL bosses are to write to 300 people who objected to the introduction of disc parking in Darwen in a bid to change their minds.

The move - because the council fears people have misunderstood the scheme - has been branded a 'ridiculous waste of money' by one market trader.

Peter Bell, head of traffic, said 300 people had signed a standard objection letter 'which did not fully cover the relevant issues relating to the scheme'.

He said they had therefore decided to write to each person to 'better explain the initiative' and ask them again if they still objected.

Some traders believe the scheme would 'scare off' customers and 'kill' the market, which has lost a number of stalls recently.

David Gee, a trader on Darwen Three Day Market, said: "No, we don't want disc parking.

"Sending these individual replies out is a waste of money that could be better spent fixing the car parks and providing a few extra."

Eileen Guy, chair of Darwen Shop and Business Association which has voted against the proposal, said: "Disc parking is not needed in Darwen and is just another barrier stopping people from shopping here."

If the scheme is brought in, motorists will have to place a disc on their window set to the time they arrived.

Wardens on patrol will then be on the lookout for any cars which have been left for longer than permitted.

The discs would be free and available in shops and in the early stages, from wardens.

Blackburn with Darwen Council announced the proposal in January after complaints that some motorists were abusing short-stay free parking.

Mr Bell, head of traffic at Capita Symonds, said: "More than 300 people signed copies of a standard letter objecting to the scheme.

"It has been decided to write to all the signatories to better explain the initiative and ask them again if they object to the scheme.

"A decision will be taken when all replies are re-evaluated."

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kw, darwen says...
7:11pm Sun 13 Apr 08

I live in Darwen and would have signed objection to disk parking if I had known there was petition

Nigel, Darwen says...
9:58pm Sun 13 Apr 08

The Disc parking scheme would not be helpful to shopping in Darwen - people have not misunderstood how its works and the reasons for its introduction - why cannot the Council take NO for an answer instead of trying to force it upon us. What we need is signs and publicity saying parking is FREE in Darwen. Surely the money would be better spent on that? Also who made the decision to write to the 300 people who signed the standard letter - can we have a name please - is it a Councillor of the ruling coalition?

R-M, Darwen says...
10:42pm Sun 13 Apr 08

I can hear the theme tune for the introduction of parking discs.... The Specials - Ghost Town.

It will be one of the last of the few remaining nails left to close the coffin.

I hope their is a decent choice of candidates in the local elections outside the main 3 parties.

Why is Roy Davies not shouting off about this? He had enough to say before he was elected. Oh silly me, he is part of the coalition now.

Unconvinced, Darwen says...
7:13am Mon 14 Apr 08

How patronising! Poor, stupid Darrenners did not understand the question. So we will ask them again, until we get the right answer.
Disc parking would drive more trade from Darwen. We need schemes to encourage people into the town centre, not drive them away.

Blondie, says...
8:43am Mon 14 Apr 08

kw wrote:
I live in Darwen and would have signed objection to disk parking if I had known there was petition
You obviously don't shop in the town!

When this stupid letter arrives i suggest don't open it and mark it with return to sender!

Disc parking is not needed in Darwen....end of.



Phil For Darwen, Darwen says...
10:13am Mon 14 Apr 08

As a shop owner I objected this scheme first time around, I will object to it 10th time around. Cant wait for the referendum on having our own town council back X.

Alexander Gordon, Darwen on says...
10:50am Mon 14 Apr 08

Could you tell "WHY" is this council going to waste out taxpaying money writing to 300 Residents to try and explain why they want a "Disc Parking" in Darwen, to me it's a waste and they could spend it on improving Darwen not trying to change peoples minds etc.

Nigel, darwen says...
11:54am Mon 14 Apr 08

Phil For Darwen wrote:
As a shop owner I objected this scheme first time around, I will object to it 10th time around. Cant wait for the referendum on having our own town council back X.
I am fully behind the referendum, but it will not be a return to the Town Council we knew, but a Parish Council or if it has a Mayor it will be called a Town Council. However it will Darweners a chance for their voice to be heard on Planning issues although the Town or Parish Council will have no powers to make decisions on planning matters, but will be able to make comments which the Council for Blackburn and Darwen must take into account when reaching a decision on Plannning applications.

Janet rip off, Darwen says...
3:37pm Mon 14 Apr 08

I have seen MP Janet Anderson out campaining for Dave Smith during the working day. Who is paying her? Answer we are. So not only are we paying her motoring expences to canvas for the Labour party we are also paying her wages. Remember that when she knocks on your door. Ask her who is paying her to talk to you and canvas for Dave Smith. It works out at aprox £100 per hour taking her expences into account. £2.00 per min and your money.

The best thing you can do is give her a gallon of petrol when she knocks on your door it will be much cheaper, but remember not to talk to her for too long it will cost you a fortune.

Smith is full of cr*p, Darwen says...
3:53pm Mon 14 Apr 08

Nigel wrote:
Phil For Darwen wrote: As a shop owner I objected this scheme first time around, I will object to it 10th time around. Cant wait for the referendum on having our own town council back X.
I am fully behind the referendum, but it will not be a return to the Town Council we knew, but a Parish Council or if it has a Mayor it will be called a Town Council. However it will Darweners a chance for their voice to be heard on Planning issues although the Town or Parish Council will have no powers to make decisions on planning matters, but will be able to make comments which the Council for Blackburn and Darwen must take into account when reaching a decision on Plannning applications.
Nigel Nuttall is incorrect powers can be devolved to a town council if the primary authority wish to do so, this is the legal position.

Blackburn planning committe only make recomendations the exec member can overturn the decitions as he did with one three weeks ago. so you could say they have no power also.

Lancashire cc could overturn planning decitions of the Darwen council pre 74 as can a minister or even the PM and so on and so forth.

I think what you are trying to say is that Blackburn dont want to devolve the power to a Darwen council or dissregard the views of the people in Darwen. That is why Smith is campaigning for a referendum and feeding everyone a load of cr*p so it fails.

A town council can be what the primary council will allow it to be, in this case Blackburn.

Tory Muppets from Blackburn, Darwen says...
3:57pm Mon 14 Apr 08

Nigel wrote:
The Disc parking scheme would not be helpful to shopping in Darwen - people have not misunderstood how its works and the reasons for its introduction - why cannot the Council take NO for an answer instead of trying to force it upon us. What we need is signs and publicity saying parking is FREE in Darwen. Surely the money would be better spent on that? Also who made the decision to write to the 300 people who signed the standard letter - can we have a name please - is it a Councillor of the ruling coalition?
Ask Alan Cottam (Tory Blackburn) he is the one that keeps pushing it. We have him pushing the disk system from Blackburn and the Tories in Darwen rejecting it.

Get your act together you are from the same party you muppets.

Thomas, Darwen says...
4:49pm Mon 14 Apr 08

How can one misunderstand what Disc Parking is all about? It will be no trouble at all for Darwen people to obtain the disc because they will have the time and opportunity to do so. It is the "out of town" visitor (if we ever get any after all the adverse publicity) that will be intimidated by it. You arrive in town, you park your car, then you realise that you need a disc. What do you do - abandon the car to find a place you can obtain the disc or do you do like I did in Accrington a few years ago? I got back in my car and drove elsewhere to shop - and I have not been back to Accrington since (although I believe they have scrapped the system now. I like the word "muppets" and the sooner Alan Cottam gets some sense between his ears instead of cotton wool in them, the better it will be for Darwen. DARWENERS -WE MUST NOT ACCEPT THIS IMPRACTICAL SYSTEM - The Council MUST find the space for more parking and stress that it is FREE!! (My goodness, what next?)

BigPete, darwen says...
6:55pm Mon 14 Apr 08

I could not believe what I was reading! What sort of Democracy do we live in when people are asked their views on the subject, and are then asked to change their opinion because we don't agree with their view? Absolutely unbelievable!

What calibre of politician have we elected when they no longer listen to the voice of the electorate?

If they don't listen to us then vote them OUT. Words are beginning to fail me........... unbelievable, absolutely UNBELIEVABLE!

andy, says...
7:36pm Mon 14 Apr 08

Don't worry, after the election we will get disc parking no matter what we say. This shower have delivered nothing they promised last year, what makes people think they will listen to us. The Tories control the liberals and for darwen.Again they are wasting money

This letter is just to stall the decision until they have your vote.Don't trust them

Nigel, darwen says...
8:32am Tue 15 Apr 08

Smith is full of cr*p wrote:
Nigel wrote:
Phil For Darwen wrote: As a shop owner I objected this scheme first time around, I will object to it 10th time around. Cant wait for the referendum on having our own town council back X.
I am fully behind the referendum, but it will not be a return to the Town Council we knew, but a Parish Council or if it has a Mayor it will be called a Town Council. However it will Darweners a chance for their voice to be heard on Planning issues although the Town or Parish Council will have no powers to make decisions on planning matters, but will be able to make comments which the Council for Blackburn and Darwen must take into account when reaching a decision on Plannning applications.
Nigel Nuttall is incorrect powers can be devolved to a town council if the primary authority wish to do so, this is the legal position. Blackburn planning committe only make recomendations the exec member can overturn the decitions as he did with one three weeks ago. so you could say they have no power also. Lancashire cc could overturn planning decitions of the Darwen council pre 74 as can a minister or even the PM and so on and so forth. I think what you are trying to say is that Blackburn dont want to devolve the power to a Darwen council or dissregard the views of the people in Darwen. That is why Smith is campaigning for a referendum and feeding everyone a load of cr*p so it fails. A town council can be what the primary council will allow it to be, in this case Blackburn.
FOr the powers of a Parish or Town Council check out the web site for Parish and Town Councils - http://www.nalc.gov.
uk/About_NALC/What_i
s_a_parish_or_town_c
ouncil/What_is_a_cou
ncil.aspx

Part way down the page is a link to a word document which gives soem useful information.

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