Asylum seekers in Blackburn and Darwen could double (From Lancashire Telegraph)

'Sometimes you just have to say we can take no more!'
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why are the politicians always a decade behind the 'man on the street'?

Madari the snake charmer says:

Criminals, crooks under the guise of `asylum seeker`... get the lot in we need them in this small island..forget that there are no jobs , no housing for our own young adults..just let them all in and spred them all in why???because the politicians need their votes to keep them in power............whe
n is this madness going to end????

Even 350 is far to many it should be reduced to 0, send them to Antartica.

madari wrote:
Madari the snake charmer says:

Criminals, crooks under the guise of `asylum seeker`... get the lot in we need them in this small island..forget that there are no jobs , no housing for our own young adults..just let them all in and spred them all in why???because the politicians need their votes to keep them in power............whe

n is this madness going to end????

Why are we taking these, with cuts being made as no money. Why are we spending on these that will give no benifit to UK, in fact the reverse if you read the article. Our own people suffer due to spending on these so called refugees. Politicians say they got it wrong when have they ever got it right !!!. Dont care about the working or retired,only on what political exposure they can get. When will they say we are full,filter all refugees reject as required.

What the hell was Jack Straw doing in the first place signing deals with Private Countries. He didn't broadcast this at the time.
The laws regarding Asylum Seekers is staright forward,they must seek asylum in the first safe country,so they shouldn't be here in the first place.
Stop all benefits to these people,offer them nothing but accomadation in a secure setting,if they are genuine they won't complain.
Stop being the dumping ground for the dregs of the worlds society.

I guess if I saw my parents and children killed as I watched and my wife, who was pregnant, raped and abused - and - if I was arrested and tortured because I would not give my assent to a brutal regime - I would want to flee and seek asylum in a country that seemed to offer peace and security. BUT I don't think that would make me a criminal.

Even if the amount of asylum seekers designated to our area increased it is still only a small percentage within the population already here and it must be remembered that these people have no choice as to where they are dispersed and have to live there whether they like it or not.

They have fled persecution - we call it man's inhumanity to man - but - I would ask the question has it really ended for them or are they still undergoing persecution even if it is in a more subtle way?

I guess if I saw my parents and children killed as I watched and my wife, who was pregnant, raped and abused - and - if I was arrested and tortured because I would not give my assent to a brutal regime - I would want to flee and seek asylum in a country that seemed to offer peace and security. BUT I don't think that would make me a criminal.

Even if the amount of asylum seekers designated to our area increased it is still only a small percentage within the population already here and it must be remembered that these people have no choice as to where they are dispersed and have to live there whether they like it or not.

They have fled persecution - we call it man's inhumanity to man - but - I would ask the question has it really ended for them or are they still undergoing persecution even if it is in a more subtle way?

So basically when Jack Straw was a government minister he signed up for 350 immigrants to be re-housed in Blackburn and neglected to mention this to the voting public - what a surprise.

Now this is being looked at again and their may be an increase to 700 all of a sudden Straw and his cronies are talking about - 'Radicalisation of young muslims' - was this not a concern when Labour decided to introduce 350 of these asylum seekers on the quiet into Blackburn?

nu-b.a.c. wrote:
I guess if I saw my parents and children killed as I watched and my wife, who was pregnant, raped and abused - and - if I was arrested and tortured because I would not give my assent to a brutal regime - I would want to flee and seek asylum in a country that seemed to offer peace and security. BUT I don't think that would make me a criminal. Even if the amount of asylum seekers designated to our area increased it is still only a small percentage within the population already here and it must be remembered that these people have no choice as to where they are dispersed and have to live there whether they like it or not. They have fled persecution - we call it man's inhumanity to man - but - I would ask the question has it really ended for them or are they still undergoing persecution even if it is in a more subtle way?

But then how many safe countries would you pass through to get to the UK??

You can always vote for BNP if you feel so strongly, however how many people do?
Jack Straw is only there because people voted his party in.

With the financial support directly and indirectly, these asylum seekers are more comfortably off than many of our pensioners who may have contributed to the country's coffers for more than 40 years.

Anyway it's best that they all go to blackburn as it's nothing but a big open prison for radiclised muslims, with all the CCTV and big brother watching, it will soon become very apparent that they would not be able to blow up a paper bag without going waterboarding.

£175million? Well, that makes it clear that this is being done for all the right reasons...

This is from Serco's website "About Us:
Serco improves the quality and efficiency of essential services that matter to millions of people around the world.

The work we do for national and local governments involves us in the most important areas of public service, including health, education, transport, science and defence.

Our private sector customers are industry-leading organisations in a wide variety of markets.

We have nearly 50 years' experience of helping our customers achieve their goals. Many want us to improve their productivity and service quality. Others need us to support their rapid growth. Government customers face crucial issues such as economic development, congestion, security and climate change. They value the innovation and passion we bring to these challenges, and the collaborative, flexible and imaginative way we work.

Serco is a values-led company with a culture and ethos that is at the heart of everything we do. We give our people real responsibility, allowing them to put their ideas into practice and to truly make a difference for our customers and the public. Our approach has made us one of the world's leading service companies and our vision is to be the world's greatest.

Our service ethos means that our customers come back to us again and again. These long-term relationships help us to meet their changing needs and to do what we do best...

...bringing service to life"

What has (or should) asylum have to do with marketing or services? What is going on in the world?

The Lunatics are running this Asylum !!!!

Even though Blackburn is one of the poorest towns in England, they are still going to send us people with the most needs. It amazes me that this town is still seen as a dumping ground for the flotsam of humanity and that there is virtually nothing in place to address their educational, medical and social needs.

There is strong evidence that multiculturalism is damaging the infrastructure of this country, as well as the education of our children, yet nobody seems to care what the population of Blackburn thinks.

The ferret is right – remember that, the next time you vote!

Commenting wrote:
With the financial support directly and indirectly, these asylum seekers are more comfortably off than many of our pensioners who may have contributed to the country's coffers for more than 40 years.

Makes me wonder why I bothered to work and pay taxes etc. for 45 years just to receive the lowest pension in Europe.
Charity begins at home.

halfhearted wrote:
What the hell was Jack Straw doing in the first place signing deals with Private Countries. He didn't broadcast this at the time.
The laws regarding Asylum Seekers is staright forward,they must seek asylum in the first safe country,so they shouldn't be here in the first place.
Stop all benefits to these people,offer them nothing but accomadation in a secure setting,if they are genuine they won't complain.
Stop being the dumping ground for the dregs of the worlds society.

Stop being the dumping ground for the dregs of the worlds society.

In a Sherlock Holmes story the great detective says...London is the cesspit of the world. Had been speaking today, he could have added a lot of other places.

Perhaps more cheap labour is required or more spending units to spend their tax payers money at the same businesses that want the cheap labour? Maybe landlords want more tax payer funded tenants? Either way, as before, useful idiots will be encouraged to accuse anyone objecting of "racism".

Ooh,there's a new threat from "radical islamists" better have some more freedom grabbing laws.The reality is government has used "terrorism" to erode civil liberties and rights and are doing it now with there plans to monitor all texts,emails and other data.

Your ferret stinks wrote:
Anyway it's best that they all go to blackburn as it's nothing but a big open prison for radiclised muslims, with all the CCTV and big brother watching, it will soon become very apparent that they would not be able to blow up a paper bag without going waterboarding.

I can see lots of gold medals being won in the waterboarding event at the 2012 olympics. Having trained very hard at guantanamo bay for the last four years there will be no-one to touch them.
I can see your point about Blackburn turning into the UK version. They even ask for their own CCTV to monitor themselves, brilliant.

First of all - Some people who do seek asylum are genuinely coming from a very dreadful place but I cant quit understand why they're all being literally dumped in Blackburn when we have no means to support our own borough economically or socially.

Second of all - Journalism practised at this newspaper is probably the worst scr3w3d up kind I have ever come across.
Half this story is absolutely pointless like most others in this paper.

Did it ever occur to the twit who wrote this that his article reads worse than a high school case study? Do the journalist at this paper actually talk to people? Do they ever conduct in investigative journalism? Or do they just sit in front of the computers reading and writing drivel about things they have a view on and read from other S****Y journalist...

In this country we all have a right to vote for somthing better if we don't like what is happening, but how many people actually do?
There are people that come on here and read everyone elses comments but don't comment themselves, just like voting, is it because they are lazy and want it all on a plate without ever having to make an effort, because if that is the case then dont get on your high horse and have a go at people who actually do, being from whatever religion or background they are from.
You have a vote, just make sure that YOUR family and friends vote as it's the only way to make a change in what ever you believe in.

Why has Blackburn to accept all these people while non go to surrounding towns like Preston, Burnley, Bolton, Chorley etc. Just what have we signed up to in the past. Lets be knowing, we deserve the truth.

Mon wrote:
Why has Blackburn to accept all these people while non go to surrounding towns like Preston, Burnley, Bolton, Chorley etc. Just what have we signed up to in the past. Lets be knowing, we deserve the truth.

That my friend is where we will never be knowing!
It's called privileged information, only those in the know need to know! and don't give me the info wars bull.

Your ferret stinks wrote:

Mon wrote:
Why has Blackburn to accept all these people while non go to surrounding towns like Preston, Burnley, Bolton, Chorley etc. Just what have we signed up to in the past. Lets be knowing, we deserve the truth.

That my friend is where we will never be knowing!
It's called privileged information, only those in the know need to know! and don't give me the info wars bull.

Ah yes only government need to know things,we only need to know what we are told.And how dare that Evil Alex jones try and give us other information.On a serious note,why is infowars.com "bull",perhaps because it provides a different world view to yours.

If some are these people are extreme in their thoughts and behaviour what the hell are they doing in this country and why Blackburn?? This beggars belief. Somebody sort this mess out before it is to late.

Your ferret stinks wrote:
In this country we all have a right to vote for somthing better if we don't like what is happening, but how many people actually do?
There are people that come on here and read everyone elses comments but don't comment themselves, just like voting, is it because they are lazy and want it all on a plate without ever having to make an effort, because if that is the case then dont get on your high horse and have a go at people who actually do, being from whatever religion or background they are from.
You have a vote, just make sure that YOUR family and friends vote as it's the only way to make a change in what ever you believe in.

What do you actually vote for though? They get into Parliament and then ignore the wishes of the people who voted them in when the party whip starts telling them how to vote. It's no wonder people don't vote. MPs are supposed to represent their constituents, not do whatever their whip tells them to do for fear of not 'getting on' in their career. Just because we get a vote every five years doesn't make it a democracy. The system SUCKS.

Want to know how to prevent this ? Elect just one BNP local councillor, this results in the Gov't immediately suspending any more 'intake' of asylum seekers to the area.
However, if you are a BNP councillor and you say the same as Straw,Hollern or Michael Lee have just said then you will be labelled 'racist'.
It is a good trait to help people, but like has been mentioned previously the law on asylum states that they must seek asylum in the nearest safe country to their own. The UK is often not the first 'port of call' for many who actually travel via Italy and France and even stay a while before reaching their target destination Britain.
That said, who can blame them ? Free housing,cash and a bit of sneaky work on the side for some,etc all backed up with 'umpteen' legally backed up private sector agencies. When asylum is granted they hit the jackpot....full state benefits.
All that said, have you ever considered the amount of EU immigrants living within the Borough ? They don't claim asylum, they are privy to benefits and/or work straight away. Do they not have an effect upon our current infrastructure ? I guess you have to agree ? What is more, there are no 'caps' on EU immigration.
Now that you've considered what I have just said, please take a moment to consider the multitude of 'home grown' wasters that take up our housing, schools,hospitals,de
ntists and infrastructure per say. There are no 'caps' on these either are there? Many stay in bed half of the day, have fancy plasma TV's, smoke dope and grow it, drink on a daily basis and claim as many benefits as they can.What is more, they are the likely candidates who complain that immigrants take their jobs and tax money when the majority don't work,won't work and have really never paid any tax themselves. I find myself increasingly surrounded by hypocrites.
However, there are in fact ways to 'fix' things, but that would involve the introduction and promotion of higher moral standards, education, a strict adherence to our laws and that people be made to pay their way and work for the luxuries that they currently enjoy. That should apply to everyone regardless of creed. Of course our hypocritical councillors and 'lefty' politicians would have to be 'ousted' to prevent them throwing a spanner in the works ? Oh....but didn't someone try that once ? I think it led to the second world war ? I guess we're all screwed.

Mon wrote:
Why has Blackburn to accept all these people while non go to surrounding towns like Preston, Burnley, Bolton, Chorley etc. Just what have we signed up to in the past. Lets be knowing, we deserve the truth.

Good point but why all the ordinary towns such as Preston, Burnley, Bolton, Chorley. Why not spread them evenly across the country? This would include towns such as Clitheroe, Winsford, Kirkham and other towns that have appeared to have been missed out when allocating places for these people.

nu-b.a.c. wrote:
I guess if I saw my parents and children killed as I watched and my wife, who was pregnant, raped and abused - and - if I was arrested and tortured because I would not give my assent to a brutal regime - I would want to flee and seek asylum in a country that seemed to offer peace and security. BUT I don't think that would make me a criminal. Even if the amount of asylum seekers designated to our area increased it is still only a small percentage within the population already here and it must be remembered that these people have no choice as to where they are dispersed and have to live there whether they like it or not. They have fled persecution - we call it man's inhumanity to man - but - I would ask the question has it really ended for them or are they still undergoing persecution even if it is in a more subtle way?

So, you would'nt mind if they moved in next door to you then!Maybe they could even share what ever substance it is you smoke in your shisa pipe....away with the fairies is the phrase I think!

robinjevansbnp wrote:
Want to know how to prevent this ? Elect just one BNP local councillor, this results in the Gov't immediately suspending any more 'intake' of asylum seekers to the area.
However, if you are a BNP councillor and you say the same as Straw,Hollern or Michael Lee have just said then you will be labelled 'racist'.
It is a good trait to help people, but like has been mentioned previously the law on asylum states that they must seek asylum in the nearest safe country to their own. The UK is often not the first 'port of call' for many who actually travel via Italy and France and even stay a while before reaching their target destination Britain.
That said, who can blame them ? Free housing,cash and a bit of sneaky work on the side for some,etc all backed up with 'umpteen' legally backed up private sector agencies. When asylum is granted they hit the jackpot....full state benefits.
All that said, have you ever considered the amount of EU immigrants living within the Borough ? They don't claim asylum, they are privy to benefits and/or work straight away. Do they not have an effect upon our current infrastructure ? I guess you have to agree ? What is more, there are no 'caps' on EU immigration.
Now that you've considered what I have just said, please take a moment to consider the multitude of 'home grown' wasters that take up our housing, schools,hospitals,de

ntists and infrastructure per say. There are no 'caps' on these either are there? Many stay in bed half of the day, have fancy plasma TV's, smoke dope and grow it, drink on a daily basis and claim as many benefits as they can.What is more, they are the likely candidates who complain that immigrants take their jobs and tax money when the majority don't work,won't work and have really never paid any tax themselves. I find myself increasingly surrounded by hypocrites.
However, there are in fact ways to 'fix' things, but that would involve the introduction and promotion of higher moral standards, education, a strict adherence to our laws and that people be made to pay their way and work for the luxuries that they currently enjoy. That should apply to everyone regardless of creed. Of course our hypocritical councillors and 'lefty' politicians would have to be 'ousted' to prevent them throwing a spanner in the works ? Oh....but didn't someone try that once ? I think it led to the second world war ? I guess we're all screwed.

Well said, Robin.

robinjevansbnp wrote:
Want to know how to prevent this ? Elect just one BNP local councillor, this results in the Gov't immediately suspending any more 'intake' of asylum seekers to the area. However, if you are a BNP councillor and you say the same as Straw,Hollern or Michael Lee have just said then you will be labelled 'racist'. It is a good trait to help people, but like has been mentioned previously the law on asylum states that they must seek asylum in the nearest safe country to their own. The UK is often not the first 'port of call' for many who actually travel via Italy and France and even stay a while before reaching their target destination Britain. That said, who can blame them ? Free housing,cash and a bit of sneaky work on the side for some,etc all backed up with 'umpteen' legally backed up private sector agencies. When asylum is granted they hit the jackpot....full state benefits. All that said, have you ever considered the amount of EU immigrants living within the Borough ? They don't claim asylum, they are privy to benefits and/or work straight away. Do they not have an effect upon our current infrastructure ? I guess you have to agree ? What is more, there are no 'caps' on EU immigration. Now that you've considered what I have just said, please take a moment to consider the multitude of 'home grown' wasters that take up our housing, schools,hospitals,de ntists and infrastructure per say. There are no 'caps' on these either are there? Many stay in bed half of the day, have fancy plasma TV's, smoke dope and grow it, drink on a daily basis and claim as many benefits as they can.What is more, they are the likely candidates who complain that immigrants take their jobs and tax money when the majority don't work,won't work and have really never paid any tax themselves. I find myself increasingly surrounded by hypocrites. However, there are in fact ways to 'fix' things, but that would involve the introduction and promotion of higher moral standards, education, a strict adherence to our laws and that people be made to pay their way and work for the luxuries that they currently enjoy. That should apply to everyone regardless of creed. Of course our hypocritical councillors and 'lefty' politicians would have to be 'ousted' to prevent them throwing a spanner in the works ? Oh....but didn't someone try that once ? I think it led to the second world war ? I guess we're all screwed.

Is our MEP not a BNP politician and that's not made a difference by the look of it?

Thousands voted for you but what difference has that made – none whatsoever!

Your party is a bankrupt joke that'll never amount to anything while you are linked to all the violence, criminal history and all the denial of the holocaust cr@p that Nick Griffin aligned himself with.

I’m not disagreeing with anything you’ve said regarding immigration or the way we’ve been screwed over by our southern based politicians but after seeing the feckless griffin on Newsnight, sucking up to the American historian, you party (like the UK) is finished.

nu-b.a.c. wrote:
I guess if I saw my parents and children killed as I watched and my wife, who was pregnant, raped and abused - and - if I was arrested and tortured because I would not give my assent to a brutal regime - I would want to flee and seek asylum in a country that seemed to offer peace and security. BUT I don't think that would make me a criminal.

Even if the amount of asylum seekers designated to our area increased it is still only a small percentage within the population already here and it must be remembered that these people have no choice as to where they are dispersed and have to live there whether they like it or not.

They have fled persecution - we call it man's inhumanity to man - but - I would ask the question has it really ended for them or are they still undergoing persecution even if it is in a more subtle way?

I guess if any of that had happened "often none of it has but is used as an excuse to be able to enter Britain " no checks are done !
Then these people would be happy to stay in the many safe countries they get to before getting to Britain. We are an island so in effect they should all be in France etc. Instead they are queuing up in "safe " countries to get here. The reason as we all know is that we are still seen as / still are ! the land of plenty for nothing.

Just look at last weeks news . 2 Somali families given big houses in London .One of these a family of 10 . What will they be putting into the country ? Yep ! nothing !!! I do not know what idiots let these scrounging families in .
At the end of the day Cameron is continually making cuts to our own and saying we have no money yet is still allowing asylum seekers / refugees and immigrants in when we do not have the money or resources to cope with or afford them . There are also no jobs so it is quite obvious we are going to have to keep these people for years . I do not want any more in our country and i know all my friends and colleagues feel the same . I think most of the country feel this way and if it carries on it will increase racism and resentment as our own struggle yet see more coming and getting all for nothing .

can sum1 please tell me wot these asylum seekers will get ie housing, furniture, fuel, clothing, television, cars, no road tax no insurance, etc. wot website will tell us the truth, ive ad enough of all this as no1 seems to know. How r we to know wot the asylum seekers av done in the country they av **** from, and not if but when they commit a crime in this country will they b sent back i think not. R familes r not safe anymore, The pensioners get get nothing n most wud av fought 4 this country n alot av died 4 wot. We dont want them here not now not eva, we must take a stand n say no more, if the goverment want them here y not house them next to them or better still live with them n eat off there table n c how they like it,

We have far to many in all of Britain never mind just Blackburn. Many are from islamic countries and we have more than enough hate preachers etc . Just why are we allowing even more to stay ?
As happy days says .Our own pensioners are being crapped upon by our own government " not just this but the last also. " If we cannot afford to look after our own we should not be accepting any more people at all . I certainly do not want my taxes to go towards their keep. I want them out asap !!!

Three hundred and fifty! Three hundred and fifty! Those figures are insane. Go along King St and you will meet at least fifty there. Go to Aldi or any supermarket and they are full of asylum seekers. 350 might represent the number of those granted asylum but certainly not of those awaiting the decision that they can stay or those that have 'disapeared' due to our slack control. Many businesses have also curiously 'appeared' in Blackburn. Mostly shops but garages and barbers as well. How on earth can those businesses just 'appear' when the owners have only just made their way to England to seek refuge? Where did the money come from? I have 2 teenage boys about to leave school and they have already 'no chance' of finding work in Blackburn and I see already the new influx has put 7 out of work. Will my boys be entitled to be housed when they want to leave home? Will they be looked after by the state? I think not. Two single white males with no job and no chance of ever being able to leave home. I can see tensions more than rising.

nu-b.a.c. wrote:
I guess if I saw my parents and children killed as I watched and my wife, who was pregnant, raped and abused - and - if I was arrested and tortured because I would not give my assent to a brutal regime - I would want to flee and seek asylum in a country that seemed to offer peace and security. BUT I don't think that would make me a criminal.

Even if the amount of asylum seekers designated to our area increased it is still only a small percentage within the population already here and it must be remembered that these people have no choice as to where they are dispersed and have to live there whether they like it or not.

They have fled persecution - we call it man's inhumanity to man - but - I would ask the question has it really ended for them or are they still undergoing persecution even if it is in a more subtle way?

Well said

The present so called ‘Labour’ party has a lot to make up for what Tony Blair’s ‘New’ party brought upon that name. Nothing but a pretend party and nothing more. Extremely difficult now for the old traditional true ‘Labour’ party supporter to reprehend because they have nowhere else to go. The main problem is that those representing the current ’Lot’ are hangers on from those Blair years. Just earning a fine living on the back of a political disaster. They all contributed to the political rape that ‘Labour’ party and can not be trusted.

As for Blackburn’s Jack Straw - Now just an aching yawn due to his favoured political career due to Blackburn’s historical ‘Labour’ supportive regime. But the question we should all be asking now is who will be taking his place after what is bound to be a very long and expensive retirement?

Miss_Redd wrote:

nu-b.a.c. wrote:
I guess if I saw my parents and children killed as I watched and my wife, who was pregnant, raped and abused - and - if I was arrested and tortured because I would not give my assent to a brutal regime - I would want to flee and seek asylum in a country that seemed to offer peace and security. BUT I don't think that would make me a criminal.

Even if the amount of asylum seekers designated to our area increased it is still only a small percentage within the population already here and it must be remembered that these people have no choice as to where they are dispersed and have to live there whether they like it or not.

They have fled persecution - we call it man's inhumanity to man - but - I would ask the question has it really ended for them or are they still undergoing persecution even if it is in a more subtle way?

Well said

The message here is . " in a country that seemed to offer peace and security. " How many countries did they pass through to get here that offered this ? Quite a few is the answer . Why come to Britain then ? Oh yes ! That would be the much better benefits / housing /schools and health service . Known as many asylum seekers to the land of plenty for nothing . This is why they are queuing up in France to get here.
When people keep coming here that most Brits do not want and they get everything for nothing while most of us work it causes resentment so they will be persecuted. And rightly so. I don't want to pay for these people when my own are going short and neither do most other working people.

It's a sad fact of life that whilst we are making these people feel very comfortable the more will want to come, the politicians of this country are too busy linings their pockets and feeling very comfortable by doing very little to ease this burden and strain that we are all feeling, as has already been said there is no work for our own children or housing and the politicians dont want to make waves for fear of 'not getting on' whilst these perported immigrants get it all.
The truth is that people feel let down and betrayed so they feel the only way left for them to make a difference is by making these people feel very un-welcomed and hopfully they will tell their friends and family not to bother coming to broken britain.
Sad but true.

Not really sad in my opinion. Indeed it is a good tactic.