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Plans to demolish Darwen's old landmark pub

DEMOLISH Old Rosins Inn DEMOLISH Old Rosins Inn

THE boss of Darwen metal fabrication firm WEC has lodged plans to demolish a 200-year-old pub and turn it into his home.

Steve Hartley plans to knock down Old Rosins Inn in Treacle Row and build a house on the site – complete with helipad.

Some nearby residents are unhappy with the proposal.

Leslie Johnson, 59, of Chapel House, Pickup Bank, says he does not want to see the old building demolished.

He said: “We moved here because it’s a rural village with a local pub. We worked all our lives to achieve that.

“Then the pub closed and we waited for it to reopen but it never did. It is a local landmark. It’s been there for about 200 years and is part of the fabric of the area. I’ll be very sad when I look out of my window and see bulldozers rolling in.

“And I don’t believe the plans are in keeping with the local area. Round here it’s all farms and buildings with the stone cottage effect.”

Mr Johnson was also concerned about the noise generated by helicopters.

He said: “Mr Harley has a helipad at his current home in Hoddlesden and we can hear it half-a-mile away.”

Mr Johnson added that he had nothing personally against Steve Hartley.

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He said: “I know he has done a lot for the town, so if the pub can’t be kept then I guess there is no better person than Mr Hartley.”

Mr Hartley said there was little option at Rosins as nobody seemed to want the building.

He said: “What do you do with a pub nobody wants?

People don’t want this type of recreation any more, so you’re just left with an old, delapidated building on a hill.

“We bought Rosins for £1million as an investment and we haven’t been able to do anything with it.

“I have offered to show Mr Johnson the accounts but he hasn’t responded.

“With regards to the helicopter, I have lived 500 yards from Rosins and my helicopter has used the same flight path for 12 years and nobody has ever complained.

“I went round to tell people about my plans and most people were happy that I was doing something about it.

“One lady who owned a farm even said she liked the helicopter as it conditioned the horses to be able to deal with the noise.”

Comments(23)

Lancs Lassie says...
12:23pm Tue 20 Dec 11

Green....it's a terrible colour....Mr Hartley, do what you have to do....Darwen is living in the dark ages....

BuckoTheMoose says...
1:28pm Tue 20 Dec 11

What's the point in keeping dead pubs as they are. Unless we let people smoke in them again they will just keep closing.
If doesn't look like that will happen any time time soon so this chap may as well do as he pleases with it if the local residents can't stump up the cash to do what they want with it.

Wishingwell says...
1:42pm Tue 20 Dec 11

Reading most of the comments on here makes me realise why we struggle to attract jobs and investment to East Lancs
I have never met Mr. Hartley but he is clearly trying his best to create jobs and wealth in our area. I just hope he isn't put off by the retard comments on here.

TugaysRightBoot says...
1:42pm Tue 20 Dec 11

It's a shame that the Rosins will definately be gone for good. But, trading in pubs/restaurants, especially this size, is no longer a profitable business. (Although I very much doubt that it's just down to smoking, BuckoTheMoose)...

did you smash it? says...
2:12pm Tue 20 Dec 11

Seems a lot of misguided individuals would rather have a crumbling wreck of a building lying empty than have some wealthy investor turn it into something useful.
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jealousy is a horrible trait

Joseph Yossarian says...
3:14pm Tue 20 Dec 11

Good luck Steve H

sweeneytodd says...
3:21pm Tue 20 Dec 11

Has the Duke of Wellington met his Walerloo ?

Where will Copenhagen graze ?

sweeneytodd says...
3:21pm Tue 20 Dec 11

Has the Duke of Wellington met his Walerloo ?

Where will Copenhagen graze ?

sweeneytodd says...
3:31pm Tue 20 Dec 11

Will the Duke of York come to his rescue ?

workaholic says...
6:18pm Tue 20 Dec 11

I once rode a White Swan (my case comes up in February!) **** Mark Boland and TRex!

CapitaBackHander says...
1:22am Wed 21 Dec 11

Presume there were more comments and they have been removed. Don't see what the problem is and like he says he has helicopter already.

louderfasterlonger says...
2:09am Wed 21 Dec 11

Shame, been to many a good party there, even had my wedding reception there, but, at the end of the day, its only a pub... and pubs aren't good business.
Least Steve Hartley had the decency to speak to residents.

ThisIsPete says...
2:36am Wed 21 Dec 11

Of course Mr. Hartley can, subject to obtaining appropriate planning permission, do whatever he likes with his property. However, let's not pretend that this is some benevolent local hero ridding the area of a decrepit eyesore.

Five years ago this was a thriving pub and restaurant. In fact, you would be lucky to get a table without booking. The standard of food and service was second to none, and the building's charm and location made it an ideal venue.

The recession and anti-smoking legislation have certainly had an effect on pubs but they are not responsible for the demise of high-end, niche businesses like the Rosins. The culprit here is poor management.

After losing the popular and highly effective restaurant manager, inexperienced and unsupervised staff led to a rapid decline in service, food quality and cleanliness. It was at this point that I and many others in the village stopped going, fortunately before the final indignity of the £33,000 fine for multiple, serious breaches of hygiene regulations (if you ate there during this period you really don't want to look at the details of the case). Who was the owner responsible for steering the business from success to shameful failure? I'll give you a clue: he's getting a new house soon.

It would be such a pity if 300 years of local history (and let's face it, it's not in abundance in Darwen) is to be erased without proper consideration. It's not possible to rebuild these things once they're demolished.

I would say to Mr. Hartley, if you're such a good business man, surely you can see the true value in this unique property and find a way to return it to profitability.

ThisIsPete says...
2:37am Wed 21 Dec 11

Of course Mr. Hartley can, subject to obtaining appropriate planning permission, do whatever he likes with his property. However, let's not pretend that this is some benevolent local hero ridding the area of a decrepit eyesore.

Five years ago this was a thriving pub and restaurant. In fact, you would be lucky to get a table without booking. The standard of food and service was second to none, and the building's charm and location made it an ideal venue.

The recession and anti-smoking legislation have certainly had an effect on pubs but they are not responsible for the demise of high-end, niche businesses like the Rosins. The culprit here is poor management.

After losing the popular and highly effective restaurant manager, inexperienced and unsupervised staff led to a rapid decline in service, food quality and cleanliness. It was at this point that I and many others in the village stopped going, fortunately before the final indignity of the £33,000 fine for multiple, serious breaches of hygiene regulations (if you ate there during this period you really don't want to look at the details of the case). Who was the owner responsible for steering the business from success to shameful failure? I'll give you a clue: he's getting a new house soon.

It would be such a pity if 300 years of local history (and let's face it, it's not in abundance in Darwen) is to be erased without proper consideration. It's not possible to rebuild these things once they're demolished.

I would say to Mr. Hartley, if you're such a good business man, surely you can see the true value in this unique property and find a way to return it to profitability.

Babbar Divino says...
2:39am Wed 21 Dec 11

I've also had some good times at the Rosins when i was younger but that is history and times change it'll be good to see some use coming out of the site rather than being left to rot. Look on the bright side Mr Johnson a new development in the area will probably increase the value of your house. An old pub that will never open again and is slowly decaying will do nothing for the area.

Your ferret stinks says...
10:46am Wed 21 Dec 11

Ah well Mr Johnstone look on the bright side , cos you have still got the Rankin arms pub! so saddle up your alsation dog get your spurs on and go av a good time!

sean_brfc says...
12:13pm Wed 21 Dec 11

This is a good thing for the area. The original building is nice but the large extension is nothing but a cheap pastiche anyway. We've lived near Steve for years and his helicopter has never been a problem.

DJ_Jaybee says...
9:49pm Wed 21 Dec 11

Boss of WEC + donation of new Darwen tower dome = no such thing as a free lunch.

DJ_Jaybee says...
9:50pm Wed 21 Dec 11

Boss of WEC - donation of new Darwen tower dome = no such thing as a free lunch.

K H 77 says...
9:19pm Sat 24 Dec 11

What a rubbish location for a nice big house

amazed says...
1:45pm Mon 26 Dec 11

One of the problems of Rosin's is the narrow road leading to it. I would have gone more often if the access had been easier. Having said that, I thought that the place looked lovely, (from a distance apparently!!)

batesempire says...
11:15am Thu 29 Dec 11

It will be sad to see it go It could become a real money spinner if it could be redeveloped like the clog and billycock or hordens ect ect I have fond memories of the old place

DJ_Jaybee says...
1:11pm Fri 13 Jan 12

A Lancashire engineering firm has been fined £31,500 over a myriad of food hygiene offences at a country hotel and restaurant used as a venue for corporate customers.

The WEC Group, one of the largest employers in Darwen, owns the Old Rosin in nearby Hoddlesden. A routine inspection by Blackburn with Darwen Council EHOs in October last year uncovered serious problems with hygiene, including mouldy food kept past its sell-by date, surfaces contaminated with dried food waste and a butter dish with a fly in it.

The company appeared at Blackburn magistrates court recently on charges including failing to ensure that the food premises was kept clean and maintained in good repair, and to ensure fittings and food equipment were clean and disinfected.

Sajada Khan, for the council, accused WEC Group of not keeping records of when food should be thrown away or regularly checking the temperature of the fridges. She said: ‘Public safety is paramount in these situations and high standards should have been maintained. It would seem the WEC Group did not get involved in day-to-day running of the premises.’

The company admitted nine food hygiene offences and was ordered to pay £3,500 on each count. Costs of £2,288 were awarded to the council. The court heard the company had refurbished the premises and brought in a new senior management team.

Councillor John Slater, executive member for citizen and consumer rights, said: ‘Companies have a responsibility to make sure the food we eat is safe.

‘I am pleased the hotel in question has heeded our advice.’

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