Anger over Darwen drug rehab centre plan (From Lancashire Telegraph)

Is there any sort of rehab/help center that they wouldn't complain about.
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The selfish attitude is aptly summed up by John Squelch "....every house will be devalued" and exactly how is it going to cause a traffic problem?

No doubt Midas, if they wanted to open a centre next door to you, you would welcome it with open arms without complaint, and vent your spleen at all your "selfish" neighbours if they complained.

Well jcb we actually have two on our street, one at either end. The first for young people with mental health problems and the other is an alcohol rehab.
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Funnily enough i very rarely see any of the residents, they tend to keep themselves to themselves. No big deal at all.

I think this Rehab /Help Centre will be in a very bad place as it's to near the New Academy, on a busy road etc and will also devalue the houses in the area.

Well, Midas, obviously an accusation of Nimbyism can not be applied to you, let's hope if this one is opened it will also be no big deal. One can live in hope.

The proposed site is inappropriate for Sudell Road, it is on the End of a block of terraces and we all know that we interact closely with each other on a Terrace, the centre is for Women with Children, there is no facilities and a tiny rear yard the size of a shoe box that is not suitable for children, Sudell Road is a lovely place to live with good people who live here this is just not appropriate for a residential area.

To be fair when we bought the house it did cause us some concern! However the people we bought the house from said they never had any problems and in the 3 years we have been here, as I said, we haven't noticed them.
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It is horses for courses but I wouldn't anticipate that a residential home for single mothers is going to be that problamatic. I would have thought that to get as far as being accepted and funded for a residentail programme they have to be pretty determined to quit and accept help.

I would support the residents of Sudell road they don't want it just as (us) the people of Whitehall didn't want one either. the power of the people won that one & the People of Sudell Road can win this one

Angusam wrote:
The proposed site is inappropriate for Sudell Road, it is on the End of a block of terraces and we all know that we interact closely with each other on a Terrace, the centre is for Women with Children, there is no facilities and a tiny rear yard the size of a shoe box that is not suitable for children, Sudell Road is a lovely place to live with good people who live here this is just not appropriate for a residential area.

try contacting this guy he helped the people of Whitehall i'm sure he will help you.

Jake Berry
Prospective Parliamentary Candidate for Rossendale and Darwen

just search him on google

This proposed treatment centre is totally inappropriate for the location - not only are there absolutely no facilities for children in the property and no outside play space, it is located within 20yards of two different off licences and directly opposite a phone box that is used by local druggies to phone their dealers. Local residents are well used to seeing drug users waiting for thier fixes whilst leaning up against the garden wall of the very property that is being proposed for this treatment centre. Why don't people think about the location of these things and consult with local residents BEFORE putting in planning applications.

There is always nimbyism about facilities like this. They have to be somewhere near someone.

Having said that, this is a particularly brainless example of a planning application with little thought put into it.

It is proposed as a centre for single mothers recovering from alcohol and drugs. It is opposite and off-licence and a telephone box which is a well-known local drug drop-off. Short of putting a minibar full of alcohol and drugs in each room, it's hard to think how much more temptation Station Plans could put in front of people.

pwei73 wrote:

Angusam wrote: The proposed site is inappropriate for Sudell Road, it is on the End of a block of terraces and we all know that we interact closely with each other on a Terrace, the centre is for Women with Children, there is no facilities and a tiny rear yard the size of a shoe box that is not suitable for children, Sudell Road is a lovely place to live with good people who live here this is just not appropriate for a residential area.

try contacting this guy he helped the people of Whitehall i'm sure he will help you. Jake Berry Prospective Parliamentary Candidate for Rossendale and Darwen just search him on google

Planning applications like this are decided by local councillors who take decisions in line with planning policies. Parliamentary candidates have very little sway or influence. 'House Prices' are not a reason to refuse planning applications. (national planning law). However, facilities for children / play space etc are. It seems like this is a poor plan for these reasons alone and is therefore more than likely to be refused under present policies.

Residents simply need to have a look at current council planning policies regarding homes, and object accordingly.

I live in this area and have to say that I don't really see a problem with a small unit like this. I don't see how it will affect the elderly care home or kids going to the academy. As for it being a 'residential area' -well, every home is a residential area, isn't it? There are a lot of antisocial problems around here with gangs of yobs, and if a unit like this increases crime (I seriously doubt that) then we might get more policing which will actually benefit the area.
There is already a bail hostel and some other sort of ex-offenders hostel within 100 metres of the old dental surgery.
I won't be signing a petition against it.

whereistedward wrote:

pwei73 wrote:

Angusam wrote: The proposed site is inappropriate for Sudell Road, it is on the End of a block of terraces and we all know that we interact closely with each other on a Terrace, the centre is for Women with Children, there is no facilities and a tiny rear yard the size of a shoe box that is not suitable for children, Sudell Road is a lovely place to live with good people who live here this is just not appropriate for a residential area.

try contacting this guy he helped the people of Whitehall i'm sure he will help you. Jake Berry Prospective Parliamentary Candidate for Rossendale and Darwen just search him on google

Planning applications like this are decided by local councillors who take decisions in line with planning policies. Parliamentary candidates have very little sway or influence. 'House Prices' are not a reason to refuse planning applications. (national planning law). However, facilities for children / play space etc are. It seems like this is a poor plan for these reasons alone and is therefore more than likely to be refused under present policies. Residents simply need to have a look at current council planning policies regarding homes, and object accordingly.

you would be very supprised at Jake Berry he helped the people of Whitehall not the local councillors who did nothing but have tried to make out it was them that got the one at Whitehall stopped.
so as i say drop Jake a line & see what happens i'm sure u will be supprised we (the people of Whitehall) were.

I understand that the planap at Whitehall was withdrawn by the applicant ? So nothing was actually decided.

happycyclist wrote:
I live in this area and have to say that I don't really see a problem with a small unit like this. I don't see how it will affect the elderly care home or kids going to the academy. As for it being a 'residential area' -well, every home is a residential area, isn't it? There are a lot of antisocial problems around here with gangs of yobs, and if a unit like this increases crime (I seriously doubt that) then we might get more policing which will actually benefit the area. There is already a bail hostel and some other sort of ex-offenders hostel within 100 metres of the old dental surgery. I won't be signing a petition against it.

Do you not think that this area already does more than its fair share for the community with these other institutions also in the area, and soon also an academy?

A drug rehabilitation centre will be detrimental to the area if it goes ahead.

Crime will increase, drugs will be stored on the premises for supervised administration to residents of the centre so I see this as a vulnerable target for crime, as well as the possibility of existing drug dealers targeting vulnerable residents of the centre.

If crime does go up then vulnerable people such as the elderly, children and families are going to be effected.

Children also growing up in the area shouldn't be exposed to this type of centre in their residential area and to this the disturbances and public nuisance that is described by people who have these centres in their residential area and you can see that this is not appropriate in an area such as Sudell Road.

Why should residents have to put up with public nuisance & disturbing situations occuring at all hours of the day and why should they feel vulnerable with this centre on their doorstep when they have contributed to their local community for years and worked hard to make this a suitable residential area for themselves and their neighbours?

I agree that the centre is a good idea for rehabilitation but not in a residential area on a Terrace Block, there are far more suitable places that a centre like this could go.

whereistedward wrote:
I understand that the planap at Whitehall was withdrawn by the applicant ? So nothing was actually decided.

They only withdrew because over 400 people wrote to the planning department & that was with the help of Jake Berry

stick the rehab centre on the "new" council estate on Anyon st....give them something to aspire to...

pwei73 wrote:

whereistedward wrote: I understand that the planap at Whitehall was withdrawn by the applicant ? So nothing was actually decided.

They only withdrew because over 400 people wrote to the planning department & that was with the help of Jake Berry

People are not capable of writing into the planning department without Jake Berry's help ?? Nonsense.