VIDEO: Cannabis worth £20,000 seized in Blackburn

TIP-OFF PC Matt Lennie with some of the cannabis found TIP-OFF PC Matt Lennie with some of the cannabis found

POLICE have seized £20,000 of cannabis from a house in Blackburn on the first day of a month-long drug crackdown.

Around 100 plants were found growing in the terrace house in Infirmary Street yesterday morning after police received a tip-off from neighbours.

Seven officers battered down the back door and found the plants and growing equipment in the kitchen and an upstairs room.

Police were initially made aware of the drugs den after attending another incident in Infirmary Street.

They were told of a “strong smell” of cannabis coming from a house further down the road, opposite The Ivy pub.

Sgt Eric Halford, who attended the raid said: “We had a number of people in the area complain of a strong smell of cannabis.

After further investigations we pin-pointed it to this address.

“We urge people to come forward and tell us if they are aware of anyone cultivating cannabis, community engagement is vital in helping us find these cannabis farms.”

The raid comes on the first day of Operation Broadley, a month-long crackdown on cannabis cultivation which has been organised by the North West Regional Organised Crime Unit (Titan) and the six regional police forces — Merseyside, GMP, Cheshire, Lancashire, North Wales and Cumbria.

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It comes after figures revealed that more than 5,120 cannabis factories with 345,000 plants worth £140million have been discovered across the North West in the last three years.

Det Supt John Lyons, from Titan, said: “Cannabis is not the harmless drug it is often perceived to be.

“An increasing number of people who grow cannabis are directly funding dangerous, organised criminal gangs, often responsible for gun crime, violence and intimidation across the North West.”

Comments(115)

Jack Herer says...
11:41am Wed 7 Mar 12

First off - good effort. These were clearly criminals growing this many plants. The more we stop them the better.

I do wish you'd stop printing this though;

Det Supt John Lyons, from Titan, said: “Cannabis is not the harmless drug it is often perceived to be."

There is a complaint against Greater Manchester police regarding that comment because, and I'm stealing Peter Reynolds words here but; Of course, nothing is harmless but:

"Comparatively speaking, cannabis is much less harmful than any other recreational drug including alcohol and all prescription and OTC medicines. In terms of harmfulness cannabis ranks alongside caffeine. This is clearly demonstrated by the latest NHS publication “A summary of the health harms of drugs”: http://www.nta.nhs.u
k/uploads/healthharm
sfinal-v1.pdf

Det. Supt. Lyons’ words are therefore grossly misleading. They amount to politicking, false propaganda and misconduct."

It surely never alright to lie to justify police actions. The grooming teams would never need to lie to justify what they do. The grooming team would no doubt love the resources that the Titan team have - unfortunately grooming isn't as high a priority than cannabis though - the grooming team clearly need to start lying more!

It's a bit sick really because those who do this grooming have very real victims, and through their sick actions, have forced these victims to live a life of pain and shame.

There are no direct victims of cannabis users like that at all. No harm to anybody in fact.

I appreciate why this is being done - it's an easy target for which the public can watch videos and be reassured that the police are doing something about drugs. The problem is it's drugs like heroin, cocaine and alcohol which are causing all the problems in society not cannabis. Targetting cannabis might be good for the cameras, but it's not a good thing for stopping harm to society.

And unless we change the law, we are never going to stop the criminals making billions off cannabis either. Only legalisation can really stop those criminals. This is just show for the cameras.

Jack Herer says...
11:44am Wed 7 Mar 12

Sorry meant to add - relatively little harm as in, for instance, hospital admissions;

alcohol - 1,000,000+
cannabis - 750

Nothing is harmless - a tea cosy killed someone the other year - seriously.

happycyclist says...
12:16pm Wed 7 Mar 12

Det Supt John Lyons, from Titan, said: “Cannabis is not the harmless drug it is often perceived to be.

“An increasing number of people who grow cannabis are directly funding dangerous, organised criminal gangs, often responsible for gun crime, violence and intimidation across the North West.”

Which is one of the reasons why it should be legalised.

...then again, the same could be said about what happens to alcohol duty collected by the Government, who are responsible for gun crime, violence and intimidation across the whole world.

Keep Darwen Green says...
12:29pm Wed 7 Mar 12

Seems to be the only growth industry in the area, over 300 factories closed down last year. Good job too as the police guy says, its a real killer.

Keep Darwen Green says...
12:32pm Wed 7 Mar 12

More killer weed removed from the streets. I hope it brings an attempted murder charge, these substances are altering peoples DNA, what will we become?

jack daniels says...
12:33pm Wed 7 Mar 12

Jack Herer wrote:
Sorry meant to add - relatively little harm as in, for instance, hospital admissions; alcohol - 1,000,000+ cannabis - 750 Nothing is harmless - a tea cosy killed someone the other year - seriously.
yawn. It is still damaging to your health though.

Keep Darwen Green says...
12:55pm Wed 7 Mar 12

Jack Herer you may think its harmless but alcohol only changes your DNA if its consumed during preganacy and damages the foetus. Weed damages your DNA while you are taking it. Google it you will see. In ten generations all pot heads may become lizards, scary stuff. I'll stick to the lager if you don't mind.

jack daniels says...
1:11pm Wed 7 Mar 12

Cannabis is safer than the battle of the Somme
Cannabis is safer than the Spanish Inquisition
Cannabis is safer than driving
Cannabis is safer than living in Africa
Cannabis is safer than being a Sunni in the middle east
Cannabis is safer than an Italian holiday Cruise
Cannabis is safer than living in Hiroshima
Cannabis is safer than living under Pol Pot.

Yet it still affects your brain chemistry and contributes to a long list of mental health issues.

Every civilisation in the world utilises one drug or another. Maybe it’s a way of coping with the day to day grind that we call life!

Some drink, some smoke, some do both. I think it’s one of the few freedoms we truly have left. What I strongly object to is that you need to pitch one against the other to justify your preference. I’ve used both and I’d have a pint of Guinness every day of the week compared to a bit of weed. What I do think is that I can have 1 pint a day and I’ll be ok, I truly can’t say the same thing about cannabis. How do I know? From living in Blackburn for 50yrs and knowing through work and play, the difference between a stoner and a drinker.

You can’t play with your mind without it taking a bit of damage.

Keep Darwen Green says...
1:21pm Wed 7 Mar 12

jack daniels wrote:
Cannabis is safer than the battle of the Somme
Cannabis is safer than the Spanish Inquisition
Cannabis is safer than driving
Cannabis is safer than living in Africa
Cannabis is safer than being a Sunni in the middle east
Cannabis is safer than an Italian holiday Cruise
Cannabis is safer than living in Hiroshima
Cannabis is safer than living under Pol Pot.

Yet it still affects your brain chemistry and contributes to a long list of mental health issues.

Every civilisation in the world utilises one drug or another. Maybe it’s a way of coping with the day to day grind that we call life!

Some drink, some smoke, some do both. I think it’s one of the few freedoms we truly have left. What I strongly object to is that you need to pitch one against the other to justify your preference. I’ve used both and I’d have a pint of Guinness every day of the week compared to a bit of weed. What I do think is that I can have 1 pint a day and I’ll be ok, I truly can’t say the same thing about cannabis. How do I know? From living in Blackburn for 50yrs and knowing through work and play, the difference between a stoner and a drinker.

You can’t play with your mind without it taking a bit of damage.
I agree, Mr herer must be brain damaged already as he ignores all the evidence and makes his own up.

Peter-Reynolds says...
1:26pm Wed 7 Mar 12

Statement from GW Pharmaceuticals which has an unlawful monopoly on the production of cannabis for medicine. Unfortunately for the government, the Daily Mail and propaganda junkies lioke Keep Darwen Green, science reveals the truth:

"We have the first approval of a plant extract drug in modern history. It has 420 molecules, whereas every other drug has just one...clinical experience to date has demonstrated that the tolerability profile of this medicine is favourable, with limited relevant adverse effects and - particularly reassuring - the drug does not appear to lead to withdrawal effects if patients suddenly stop using it.”

Keep Darwen Green says...
1:42pm Wed 7 Mar 12

Peter-Reynolds wrote:
Statement from GW Pharmaceuticals which has an unlawful monopoly on the production of cannabis for medicine. Unfortunately for the government, the Daily Mail and propaganda junkies lioke Keep Darwen Green, science reveals the truth:

"We have the first approval of a plant extract drug in modern history. It has 420 molecules, whereas every other drug has just one...clinical experience to date has demonstrated that the tolerability profile of this medicine is favourable, with limited relevant adverse effects and - particularly reassuring - the drug does not appear to lead to withdrawal effects if patients suddenly stop using it.”
Look Burt it alters your DNA you are devolving generation on generation and will end up a monkeys. GW pharmaceuticals want you to buy it so they can make billions while you and yours turn into monkeys, they're not exactly going to tell you this are they, jeez some people. Just google it. Cannabis alters DNA, its pretty simple to do.

Gearwar says...
2:00pm Wed 7 Mar 12

Keep Darwen Green wrote:
Peter-Reynolds wrote: Statement from GW Pharmaceuticals which has an unlawful monopoly on the production of cannabis for medicine. Unfortunately for the government, the Daily Mail and propaganda junkies lioke Keep Darwen Green, science reveals the truth: "We have the first approval of a plant extract drug in modern history. It has 420 molecules, whereas every other drug has just one...clinical experience to date has demonstrated that the tolerability profile of this medicine is favourable, with limited relevant adverse effects and - particularly reassuring - the drug does not appear to lead to withdrawal effects if patients suddenly stop using it.”
Look Burt it alters your DNA you are devolving generation on generation and will end up a monkeys. GW pharmaceuticals want you to buy it so they can make billions while you and yours turn into monkeys, they're not exactly going to tell you this are they, jeez some people. Just google it. Cannabis alters DNA, its pretty simple to do.
But people people have been smokeing cannabis for centuries, if they really altered our DNA that much... would these deformeties not have already taken effect?

ratshowilikeit says...
2:25pm Wed 7 Mar 12

its not the drug or the drink its the person using it

WKDNess says...
2:34pm Wed 7 Mar 12

Keep Darwen Green wrote:
Jack Herer you may think its harmless but alcohol only changes your DNA if its consumed during preganacy and damages the foetus. Weed damages your DNA while you are taking it. Google it you will see. In ten generations all pot heads may become lizards, scary stuff. I'll stick to the lager if you don't mind.
So you're saying that cannabis CHANGES YOU'RE DNA and TURNS YOU INTO A LIZARD?!!!

Hahaha!! That is the funniest and most ridiculous "reefer-madness" story yet!! What an idiot.

Peter-Reynolds says...
2:35pm Wed 7 Mar 12

Gearwar wrote:
Keep Darwen Green wrote:
Peter-Reynolds wrote: Statement from GW Pharmaceuticals which has an unlawful monopoly on the production of cannabis for medicine. Unfortunately for the government, the Daily Mail and propaganda junkies lioke Keep Darwen Green, science reveals the truth: "We have the first approval of a plant extract drug in modern history. It has 420 molecules, whereas every other drug has just one...clinical experience to date has demonstrated that the tolerability profile of this medicine is favourable, with limited relevant adverse effects and - particularly reassuring - the drug does not appear to lead to withdrawal effects if patients suddenly stop using it.”
Look Burt it alters your DNA you are devolving generation on generation and will end up a monkeys. GW pharmaceuticals want you to buy it so they can make billions while you and yours turn into monkeys, they're not exactly going to tell you this are they, jeez some people. Just google it. Cannabis alters DNA, its pretty simple to do.
But people people have been smokeing cannabis for centuries, if they really altered our DNA that much... would these deformeties not have already taken effect?
As I said, Darwen is a propaganda junkie. He prefers it to anything else whatever the science and whatever the evidence.

The latest archaeological evidence is that mankind has been using cannabis in its psychoactive form for at least 27,000 years. It's less than 100 years since it's been prohibited and before then half of all medicines in the British pharmacopia contained cannabis. I think if cananbi didn't work or was harmful then we'd have found out a long time ago, don't you?

Jack Herer says...
2:47pm Wed 7 Mar 12

Keep Darwen Green wrote:
Peter-Reynolds wrote:
Statement from GW Pharmaceuticals which has an unlawful monopoly on the production of cannabis for medicine. Unfortunately for the government, the Daily Mail and propaganda junkies lioke Keep Darwen Green, science reveals the truth:

"We have the first approval of a plant extract drug in modern history. It has 420 molecules, whereas every other drug has just one...clinical experience to date has demonstrated that the tolerability profile of this medicine is favourable, with limited relevant adverse effects and - particularly reassuring - the drug does not appear to lead to withdrawal effects if patients suddenly stop using it.”
Look Burt it alters your DNA you are devolving generation on generation and will end up a monkeys. GW pharmaceuticals want you to buy it so they can make billions while you and yours turn into monkeys, they're not exactly going to tell you this are they, jeez some people. Just google it. Cannabis alters DNA, its pretty simple to do.
How thick is your tin foil hat Keep Darwen Green?

Cannabis alters your DNA??? You end up like Monkeys or Lizards? What the sweet bajesus is flowing through your head?

Queen Victoria took cannabis regularly - she was prescribed it. It was as normal as being prescribed paracetamol then. The doses were far stronger in extract form then than any recreational user has these days - no matter how heavy their use.

Is Charles a lizard or the monkey do you think? Was he born in an egg? If so he's a lizard.

Are you a comedy character or for real Keep Darwen Green? I genuinely can't tell.

nice person says...
2:58pm Wed 7 Mar 12

DEAR EDITOR
Can i ask why you have as yet not printed the story from fridays Burnley Magistrates court?The one with the racially aggrivated public order offence,to which the thing was found guilty??

jack daniels says...
2:58pm Wed 7 Mar 12

ratshowilikeit wrote:
its not the drug or the drink its the person using it
well said

nice person says...
2:59pm Wed 7 Mar 12

jack daniels wrote:
ratshowilikeit wrote:
its not the drug or the drink its the person using it
well said
Very true..

jack daniels says...
3:01pm Wed 7 Mar 12

Gearwar wrote:
Keep Darwen Green wrote:
Peter-Reynolds wrote: Statement from GW Pharmaceuticals which has an unlawful monopoly on the production of cannabis for medicine. Unfortunately for the government, the Daily Mail and propaganda junkies lioke Keep Darwen Green, science reveals the truth: "We have the first approval of a plant extract drug in modern history. It has 420 molecules, whereas every other drug has just one...clinical experience to date has demonstrated that the tolerability profile of this medicine is favourable, with limited relevant adverse effects and - particularly reassuring - the drug does not appear to lead to withdrawal effects if patients suddenly stop using it.”
Look Burt it alters your DNA you are devolving generation on generation and will end up a monkeys. GW pharmaceuticals want you to buy it so they can make billions while you and yours turn into monkeys, they're not exactly going to tell you this are they, jeez some people. Just google it. Cannabis alters DNA, its pretty simple to do.
But people people have been smokeing cannabis for centuries, if they really altered our DNA that much... would these deformeties not have already taken effect?
they have. Have you ever been to France?

MkkDdd says...
3:09pm Wed 7 Mar 12

ATTENTION GROWERS!
Lessons to be learnt here:
1) do not try to save money by not setting up your ventilation properly with a BIG CARBON FILTER!
2) don't do anything to annoy anyone in the area who might split on you.

nice person says...
3:14pm Wed 7 Mar 12

The Physical benefits of marijuana are far-reaching, widespread, and long-term. Because of the way marijuana impacts the Autonomic Nervous System which expands the breath and relaxes the body, its potential for health and healing are enormous, and have been completely unrealized by Western Medicine.
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It both stimulates and relaxes,simultaneous
ly.When the system is sluggish,marijuana has been used for centuries to energize it.When the system is hyper-aroused, as in today’s lifestyle, marijuana calms.When we ingest marijuana, the heart swells through capillary enhancement and is fueled more by more fully oxygenated blood, while, at the same time, its contractions and expansions are greater, allowing for stronger pumping action to the rest of the body.As the body’s workings can become more harmonious with marijuana, the functioning of the five senses can be noticeably improved.
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In a Costa Rican study, it was found that chronic marijuana smokers who also smoked cigarettes were less likely to develop cancer than cigarette smokers who didn’t use marijuana. Since marijuana (smoking, as well as ingestion by other methods) dilates the alveoli, toxins are more easily eliminated with cannabis use regardless of its method of application. Nicotine, on the other hand, constricts the alveoli, so it is likely that the use of cannabis neutralizes, or even overwhelms the constriction, by its own tendency to dilation ...As an aid for all psychosomatic disease, marijuana can benefit the participant, generally because of its health-restoring effects... The fear of marijuana... stems from its limitless potential for treating illness, in that both the pharmaceutical industry and the medical monopoly would lose billions of dollars if marijuana became the non-drug of choice.
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I think i would rather believe this study to most stories on this stuff..

Jack Herer says...
3:21pm Wed 7 Mar 12

I've got to ask; Keep Darwen Green, in your head is our future world populated by these lizard and monkey people?

Are they like superheroes with super powers - like spider man, but lizard man - or do they live on the fringes of society? Say they knock about on the moors fighting each other - lizard vs monkey people?

Have you thought it through that far? If so I'd genuinely like to know what it is.

In the real world, since we now know that cannabis has definitely been used for at least 27,000, then surely these lizards or monkeys would be amongst us now.

If the world is actually upside down and you are right though, then at that point I'd suspect your ancestors were heavy users.

nice person says...
3:29pm Wed 7 Mar 12

jack daniels wrote:
Gearwar wrote:
Keep Darwen Green wrote:
Peter-Reynolds wrote: Statement from GW Pharmaceuticals which has an unlawful monopoly on the production of cannabis for medicine. Unfortunately for the government, the Daily Mail and propaganda junkies lioke Keep Darwen Green, science reveals the truth: "We have the first approval of a plant extract drug in modern history. It has 420 molecules, whereas every other drug has just one...clinical experience to date has demonstrated that the tolerability profile of this medicine is favourable, with limited relevant adverse effects and - particularly reassuring - the drug does not appear to lead to withdrawal effects if patients suddenly stop using it.”
Look Burt it alters your DNA you are devolving generation on generation and will end up a monkeys. GW pharmaceuticals want you to buy it so they can make billions while you and yours turn into monkeys, they're not exactly going to tell you this are they, jeez some people. Just google it. Cannabis alters DNA, its pretty simple to do.
But people people have been smokeing cannabis for centuries, if they really altered our DNA that much... would these deformeties not have already taken effect?
they have. Have you ever been to France?
Lol..

WKDNess says...
3:32pm Wed 7 Mar 12

Jack Herer wrote:
I've got to ask; Keep Darwen Green, in your head is our future world populated by these lizard and monkey people? Are they like superheroes with super powers - like spider man, but lizard man - or do they live on the fringes of society? Say they knock about on the moors fighting each other - lizard vs monkey people? Have you thought it through that far? If so I'd genuinely like to know what it is. In the real world, since we now know that cannabis has definitely been used for at least 27,000, then surely these lizards or monkeys would be amongst us now. If the world is actually upside down and you are right though, then at that point I'd suspect your ancestors were heavy users.
Haha love it.

Keep Darwen Green says...
3:46pm Wed 7 Mar 12

Peter-Reynolds wrote:
Gearwar wrote:
Keep Darwen Green wrote:
Peter-Reynolds wrote: Statement from GW Pharmaceuticals which has an unlawful monopoly on the production of cannabis for medicine. Unfortunately for the government, the Daily Mail and propaganda junkies lioke Keep Darwen Green, science reveals the truth: "We have the first approval of a plant extract drug in modern history. It has 420 molecules, whereas every other drug has just one...clinical experience to date has demonstrated that the tolerability profile of this medicine is favourable, with limited relevant adverse effects and - particularly reassuring - the drug does not appear to lead to withdrawal effects if patients suddenly stop using it.”
Look Burt it alters your DNA you are devolving generation on generation and will end up a monkeys. GW pharmaceuticals want you to buy it so they can make billions while you and yours turn into monkeys, they're not exactly going to tell you this are they, jeez some people. Just google it. Cannabis alters DNA, its pretty simple to do.
But people people have been smokeing cannabis for centuries, if they really altered our DNA that much... would these deformeties not have already taken effect?
As I said, Darwen is a propaganda junkie. He prefers it to anything else whatever the science and whatever the evidence.

The latest archaeological evidence is that mankind has been using cannabis in its psychoactive form for at least 27,000 years. It's less than 100 years since it's been prohibited and before then half of all medicines in the British pharmacopia contained cannabis. I think if cananbi didn't work or was harmful then we'd have found out a long time ago, don't you?
Maybe thats the missing link, maybe a monkey injected some cannabis and it altered his DNA to become a human.You don't mess with nature, next time you may end up a possem or something equally as stupid. I mean the lizard thing could be true. Look a lizard is a cold blooded animal right so it lies in the sun to get warm before it starts to move. Well look at all them rastas in Jamaica, they're half way there already, they get reefered up and then lay in the sun all day until they're warm enough to move. The change is instant, whats next? ten generations down the line they could be laying eggs. Wake up people the scientists have given you fair warning. Cannabis alters DNA, google it.

Keep Darwen Green says...
3:55pm Wed 7 Mar 12

Jack Herer wrote:
I've got to ask; Keep Darwen Green, in your head is our future world populated by these lizard and monkey people?

Are they like superheroes with super powers - like spider man, but lizard man - or do they live on the fringes of society? Say they knock about on the moors fighting each other - lizard vs monkey people?

Have you thought it through that far? If so I'd genuinely like to know what it is.

In the real world, since we now know that cannabis has definitely been used for at least 27,000, then surely these lizards or monkeys would be amongst us now.

If the world is actually upside down and you are right though, then at that point I'd suspect your ancestors were heavy users.
You haven't thought this through have you? Have you ever been to the dominican republic? Monkeys lizards and humans that smoke cannabis exist on the same land mass, have they ever had their DNA tested, they may all be linked. Cannabis alters DNA, you just can't face loosing the argument. Alcohol makes you violent but it doen't turn you into a lower form of life like cannabis does. You're just thick aren't you?

Jack Herer says...
4:07pm Wed 7 Mar 12

Keep Darwen Green wrote:
Jack Herer wrote:
I've got to ask; Keep Darwen Green, in your head is our future world populated by these lizard and monkey people?

Are they like superheroes with super powers - like spider man, but lizard man - or do they live on the fringes of society? Say they knock about on the moors fighting each other - lizard vs monkey people?

Have you thought it through that far? If so I'd genuinely like to know what it is.

In the real world, since we now know that cannabis has definitely been used for at least 27,000, then surely these lizards or monkeys would be amongst us now.

If the world is actually upside down and you are right though, then at that point I'd suspect your ancestors were heavy users.
You haven't thought this through have you? Have you ever been to the dominican republic? Monkeys lizards and humans that smoke cannabis exist on the same land mass, have they ever had their DNA tested, they may all be linked. Cannabis alters DNA, you just can't face loosing the argument. Alcohol makes you violent but it doen't turn you into a lower form of life like cannabis does. You're just thick aren't you?
You are right - who could ever complete with your clearly superior knowledge?

I was none the wiser that the Dominican Republic was already harbouring these monkey-lizard-people
. Wow - amazing. Lizards smoking cannabis - I have got to see that.

Why has David Attenborough not covered this? I hope it's in a forthcoming series.

Greylox says...
4:13pm Wed 7 Mar 12

Keep Darwen Green, your either a good troll or possibly the single most insane person I have ever had the misfortune to come across.

Anyway, this will stop nothing. Just regulate it and admit you were wrong and that you've been consistently lying to the british public for decades. Yeah I'm looking at you the UK government.

nice person says...
4:15pm Wed 7 Mar 12

A new study published by University of Leicester researchers has found "convincing evidence" that cannabis smoke damages DNA in ways that could potentially increase the risk of cancer development in humans.
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The authors added: “It is well known that toxic substances in tobacco smoke can damage DNA and increase the risk of lung and other cancers. Scientists were unsure though whether cannabis smoke would have the same effect. Our research has focused on the toxicity of acetaldehyde, which is present in both tobacco and cannabis.”
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Make your mind up yourself as this is certainly a Contradictio in terminis...

Keep Darwen Green says...
4:17pm Wed 7 Mar 12

Jack Herer wrote:
Keep Darwen Green wrote:
Jack Herer wrote:
I've got to ask; Keep Darwen Green, in your head is our future world populated by these lizard and monkey people?

Are they like superheroes with super powers - like spider man, but lizard man - or do they live on the fringes of society? Say they knock about on the moors fighting each other - lizard vs monkey people?

Have you thought it through that far? If so I'd genuinely like to know what it is.

In the real world, since we now know that cannabis has definitely been used for at least 27,000, then surely these lizards or monkeys would be amongst us now.

If the world is actually upside down and you are right though, then at that point I'd suspect your ancestors were heavy users.
You haven't thought this through have you? Have you ever been to the dominican republic? Monkeys lizards and humans that smoke cannabis exist on the same land mass, have they ever had their DNA tested, they may all be linked. Cannabis alters DNA, you just can't face loosing the argument. Alcohol makes you violent but it doen't turn you into a lower form of life like cannabis does. You're just thick aren't you?
You are right - who could ever complete with your clearly superior knowledge?

I was none the wiser that the Dominican Republic was already harbouring these monkey-lizard-people

. Wow - amazing. Lizards smoking cannabis - I have got to see that.

Why has David Attenborough not covered this? I hope it's in a forthcoming series.
Now you're just being plain daft Thers no such thing as a cannabis smoking lizard, you make my blood boil. Google it and take it in, if the next nine generations smoked cannabis the tenth could be a completely differnt species thast what I'm saying not that because Vicoria injected it and charles is alright, well maybe not after all he divorced a princess and married his horse, just a joke, but because lizzie didn't smoke it charlie is only slightly damaged, hence marrying his horse, just joking again, but if the family line had been continuous cannabis injectors like victoria it would have been like V any day soon.

nice person says...
4:27pm Wed 7 Mar 12

nice person wrote:
DEAR EDITOR
Can i ask why you have as yet not printed the story from fridays Burnley Magistrates court?The one with the racially aggrivated public order offence,to which the thing was found guilty??
DEAR EDITOR

jack daniels says...
4:27pm Wed 7 Mar 12

Keep Darwen Green wrote:
Jack Herer wrote: I've got to ask; Keep Darwen Green, in your head is our future world populated by these lizard and monkey people? Are they like superheroes with super powers - like spider man, but lizard man - or do they live on the fringes of society? Say they knock about on the moors fighting each other - lizard vs monkey people? Have you thought it through that far? If so I'd genuinely like to know what it is. In the real world, since we now know that cannabis has definitely been used for at least 27,000, then surely these lizards or monkeys would be amongst us now. If the world is actually upside down and you are right though, then at that point I'd suspect your ancestors were heavy users.
You haven't thought this through have you? Have you ever been to the dominican republic? Monkeys lizards and humans that smoke cannabis exist on the same land mass, have they ever had their DNA tested, they may all be linked. Cannabis alters DNA, you just can't face loosing the argument. Alcohol makes you violent but it doen't turn you into a lower form of life like cannabis does. You're just thick aren't you?
"it doen't turn you into a lower form of life like cannabis does"

Errrr, you ever been down town on a Saturday night?

nice person says...
4:28pm Wed 7 Mar 12

nice person wrote:
nice person wrote:
DEAR EDITOR
Can i ask why you have as yet not printed the story from fridays Burnley Magistrates court?The one with the racially aggrivated public order offence,to which the thing was found guilty??
DEAR EDITOR
Where are yoooooooooooooou ??

Graffoid says...
4:33pm Wed 7 Mar 12

This article is funny, the comments are awesome! Darwin Green you must be deluded, sorry! The article you are quoting is from Leicester University, UK, not peer reviewed !
A more recent study shows tobacco used with cannabis causes cancer get cannabis alone does not.
Try reading the scientific publication not the newspaper horror story!
Anyway, what about these French Lizard People? Are they allowed to grow their own?

Jack Herer says...
4:34pm Wed 7 Mar 12

nice person wrote:
A new study published by University of Leicester researchers has found "convincing evidence" that cannabis smoke damages DNA in ways that could potentially increase the risk of cancer development in humans.
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The authors added: “It is well known that toxic substances in tobacco smoke can damage DNA and increase the risk of lung and other cancers. Scientists were unsure though whether cannabis smoke would have the same effect. Our research has focused on the toxicity of acetaldehyde, which is present in both tobacco and cannabis.”
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Make your mind up yourself as this is certainly a Contradictio in terminis...
That's right - cannabis, when burnt, has some of the same nasty carcinogens as tobacco.

Here's the amazing thing though - even though millions and millions of people have caught cancer from those carcinogens from smoking tobacco - no-one has ever caught cancer from the exact same carcinogens from smoking cannabis - no-one, not ever. Isn't that weird.

The truth therefore, which scientists now know, is that cannabis, or actually THC, has anti-cancer properties - it has to, otherwise people would get cancer, but they never ever do.

If that study only looked at the bad effects of acetaldehyde - then it is flawed in saying that cannabis is as dangerous as tobacco - because it doesn't take into account the hugely positive counter effect which THC has.

It needs to look at what cannabis does as well which tobacco clearly doesn't. Cannabis is looking after it's users - incredibly it is making these highly dangerous carcinogens completely safe.

That's a guaranteed fact - because no-one has ever got lung cancer from cannabis.

Keep Darwen Green says...
4:34pm Wed 7 Mar 12

Edlington child sadists in utero?
A study highlighting a case where people who practiced child torture were in fact brain damaged by their mother who was a heavy cannabis user during pregnancy. Famed by the usage of the name In Utero Nirvana's last album as Kurt Coabain was a heavy cannabis user and not being able to handle what he may have done to his offspring, blew his own brains out.
All good stuff y'know. Google it Herer you lizard retard.

Keep Darwen Green says...
4:39pm Wed 7 Mar 12

Jack Herer wrote:
nice person wrote:
A new study published by University of Leicester researchers has found "convincing evidence" that cannabis smoke damages DNA in ways that could potentially increase the risk of cancer development in humans.
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The authors added: “It is well known that toxic substances in tobacco smoke can damage DNA and increase the risk of lung and other cancers. Scientists were unsure though whether cannabis smoke would have the same effect. Our research has focused on the toxicity of acetaldehyde, which is present in both tobacco and cannabis.”
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Make your mind up yourself as this is certainly a Contradictio in terminis...
That's right - cannabis, when burnt, has some of the same nasty carcinogens as tobacco.

Here's the amazing thing though - even though millions and millions of people have caught cancer from those carcinogens from smoking tobacco - no-one has ever caught cancer from the exact same carcinogens from smoking cannabis - no-one, not ever. Isn't that weird.

The truth therefore, which scientists now know, is that cannabis, or actually THC, has anti-cancer properties - it has to, otherwise people would get cancer, but they never ever do.

If that study only looked at the bad effects of acetaldehyde - then it is flawed in saying that cannabis is as dangerous as tobacco - because it doesn't take into account the hugely positive counter effect which THC has.

It needs to look at what cannabis does as well which tobacco clearly doesn't. Cannabis is looking after it's users - incredibly it is making these highly dangerous carcinogens completely safe.

That's a guaranteed fact - because no-one has ever got lung cancer from cannabis.
Bob marley

Jack Herer says...
4:43pm Wed 7 Mar 12

Keep Darwen Green wrote:
Jack Herer wrote:
Keep Darwen Green wrote:
Jack Herer wrote:
I've got to ask; Keep Darwen Green, in your head is our future world populated by these lizard and monkey people?

Are they like superheroes with super powers - like spider man, but lizard man - or do they live on the fringes of society? Say they knock about on the moors fighting each other - lizard vs monkey people?

Have you thought it through that far? If so I'd genuinely like to know what it is.

In the real world, since we now know that cannabis has definitely been used for at least 27,000, then surely these lizards or monkeys would be amongst us now.

If the world is actually upside down and you are right though, then at that point I'd suspect your ancestors were heavy users.
You haven't thought this through have you? Have you ever been to the dominican republic? Monkeys lizards and humans that smoke cannabis exist on the same land mass, have they ever had their DNA tested, they may all be linked. Cannabis alters DNA, you just can't face loosing the argument. Alcohol makes you violent but it doen't turn you into a lower form of life like cannabis does. You're just thick aren't you?
You are right - who could ever complete with your clearly superior knowledge?

I was none the wiser that the Dominican Republic was already harbouring these monkey-lizard-people


. Wow - amazing. Lizards smoking cannabis - I have got to see that.

Why has David Attenborough not covered this? I hope it's in a forthcoming series.
Now you're just being plain daft Thers no such thing as a cannabis smoking lizard, you make my blood boil. Google it and take it in, if the next nine generations smoked cannabis the tenth could be a completely differnt species thast what I'm saying not that because Vicoria injected it and charles is alright, well maybe not after all he divorced a princess and married his horse, just a joke, but because lizzie didn't smoke it charlie is only slightly damaged, hence marrying his horse, just joking again, but if the family line had been continuous cannabis injectors like victoria it would have been like V any day soon.
No you are right - it is me being daft for doubting your lizard / monkey changing properties from cannabis.

Do the lizards on the Dominican Republic smoke joints or bongs or pipes do you know? It's just that I am planning my trip now, and just want to get a picture in my head what it's like there.

Just so you know, people have already been smoking cannabis for 100s of generations Keep Darwen Green not just nine or ten.

The world should already be awash with your completely different species of lizard people.

Have you googled David Icke yet?

It's unlikely that Victoria was the first or last royal to be prescribed cannabis btw - that means we really are close to V day.

When will the first royal lizard egg be born do you think?

nice person says...
4:49pm Wed 7 Mar 12

Keep Darwen Green wrote:
Jack Herer wrote:
nice person wrote:
A new study published by University of Leicester researchers has found "convincing evidence" that cannabis smoke damages DNA in ways that could potentially increase the risk of cancer development in humans.
.
The authors added: “It is well known that toxic substances in tobacco smoke can damage DNA and increase the risk of lung and other cancers. Scientists were unsure though whether cannabis smoke would have the same effect. Our research has focused on the toxicity of acetaldehyde, which is present in both tobacco and cannabis.”
.
Make your mind up yourself as this is certainly a Contradictio in terminis...
That's right - cannabis, when burnt, has some of the same nasty carcinogens as tobacco.

Here's the amazing thing though - even though millions and millions of people have caught cancer from those carcinogens from smoking tobacco - no-one has ever caught cancer from the exact same carcinogens from smoking cannabis - no-one, not ever. Isn't that weird.

The truth therefore, which scientists now know, is that cannabis, or actually THC, has anti-cancer properties - it has to, otherwise people would get cancer, but they never ever do.

If that study only looked at the bad effects of acetaldehyde - then it is flawed in saying that cannabis is as dangerous as tobacco - because it doesn't take into account the hugely positive counter effect which THC has.

It needs to look at what cannabis does as well which tobacco clearly doesn't. Cannabis is looking after it's users - incredibly it is making these highly dangerous carcinogens completely safe.

That's a guaranteed fact - because no-one has ever got lung cancer from cannabis.
Bob marley
Bob Marley did not die as a result of marijuana-caused cancer. Instead, it is believed his smoking weed prolonged his life (as a Rasta, he always refused any medical treatment for any ailment). Marley had a cancer in his toe, which then spread to his brain, which then spread to other parts of his body. More medical scientists believe he died from nefarious causes than from cancer. Oh, and the number one cause for cancer is the type of abject poverty and poor nutrition that Bob grew up with.

Keep Darwen Green says...
4:55pm Wed 7 Mar 12

See what I mean about you losing the plot, I said it takes generations, you stated no-one has ever died from cancer smoking cannabis and I stated Bob Marley, I pointed you to the Edlington child torture case showing how it can affect the generation down the line and all you can quote is some medicine manufacturers who want to sell everyone in the world their safe product. Studies recently showed that children born to mothers who were heavy cannabis users made them 70% more likely to have a personality disorder like ADHD or be a psychopath yet you still peddle your DNA altering lizard leaves. I suggest you listen to In Utero by Nirvana so you can try and understand where his head was before he blew it off.

Jack Herer says...
5:02pm Wed 7 Mar 12

Keep Darwen Green wrote:
Jack Herer wrote:
nice person wrote:
A new study published by University of Leicester researchers has found "convincing evidence" that cannabis smoke damages DNA in ways that could potentially increase the risk of cancer development in humans.
.
The authors added: “It is well known that toxic substances in tobacco smoke can damage DNA and increase the risk of lung and other cancers. Scientists were unsure though whether cannabis smoke would have the same effect. Our research has focused on the toxicity of acetaldehyde, which is present in both tobacco and cannabis.”
.
Make your mind up yourself as this is certainly a Contradictio in terminis...
That's right - cannabis, when burnt, has some of the same nasty carcinogens as tobacco.

Here's the amazing thing though - even though millions and millions of people have caught cancer from those carcinogens from smoking tobacco - no-one has ever caught cancer from the exact same carcinogens from smoking cannabis - no-one, not ever. Isn't that weird.

The truth therefore, which scientists now know, is that cannabis, or actually THC, has anti-cancer properties - it has to, otherwise people would get cancer, but they never ever do.

If that study only looked at the bad effects of acetaldehyde - then it is flawed in saying that cannabis is as dangerous as tobacco - because it doesn't take into account the hugely positive counter effect which THC has.

It needs to look at what cannabis does as well which tobacco clearly doesn't. Cannabis is looking after it's users - incredibly it is making these highly dangerous carcinogens completely safe.

That's a guaranteed fact - because no-one has ever got lung cancer from cannabis.
Bob marley
In July 1977, Bob Marley was found to have a type of malignant melanoma under the nail of one of his toes.

Are your toes the same thing as your lungs Keep Darwen? In your head of cannabis smoking lizards they probably are.

useyourhead says...
5:04pm Wed 7 Mar 12

Even with this so called special operation they will barely scratch the surface, there are more growers than they can possibly cope with, many simply growing for themselves so that they can control the quality and know that thier money most certainly won't be helping buy guns, run wars, assist in illegal immigration and slavery, contribute to utility theft or pay for little cretins to buzz around in nice shiny BMW's.

WKDNess says...
5:11pm Wed 7 Mar 12

Keep Darwen Green.....absolute quality entertainment! U should have your tv show, I'm absolutely creased!! "Keep ya DNA changing lizard-leaves"!! Hahahaha!!!! Comedy gold man, comedy gold.

Chris P Bacon says...
5:22pm Wed 7 Mar 12

A psychologist could hold an entire day's case conference on the metal problems demonstrated by the Darwen looney on here. And she/he/it's too stupid to be embarrassed!

There's sometimes no words to describe the blight that affects some people's minds. That simple phrase could have been written ABOUT the Darwen psycho.

Michael@ClitheroeSince58 says...
5:52pm Wed 7 Mar 12

It's amazing what you can learn playing Pot Farm on Facebook :)

Michael@ClitheroeSince58 says...
6:05pm Wed 7 Mar 12

WKDNess wrote:
Keep Darwen Green.....absolute quality entertainment! U should have your tv show, I'm absolutely creased!! "Keep ya DNA changing lizard-leaves"!! Hahahaha!!!! Comedy gold man, comedy gold.
KDG is def one of the best on the LET I have been crying laughing reading the lizard vs monkey and thinking of the first royal egg lol :)

Keep Darwen Green says...
6:41pm Wed 7 Mar 12

Jack Herer wrote:
Keep Darwen Green wrote:
Jack Herer wrote:
nice person wrote:
A new study published by University of Leicester researchers has found "convincing evidence" that cannabis smoke damages DNA in ways that could potentially increase the risk of cancer development in humans.
.
The authors added: “It is well known that toxic substances in tobacco smoke can damage DNA and increase the risk of lung and other cancers. Scientists were unsure though whether cannabis smoke would have the same effect. Our research has focused on the toxicity of acetaldehyde, which is present in both tobacco and cannabis.”
.
Make your mind up yourself as this is certainly a Contradictio in terminis...
That's right - cannabis, when burnt, has some of the same nasty carcinogens as tobacco.

Here's the amazing thing though - even though millions and millions of people have caught cancer from those carcinogens from smoking tobacco - no-one has ever caught cancer from the exact same carcinogens from smoking cannabis - no-one, not ever. Isn't that weird.

The truth therefore, which scientists now know, is that cannabis, or actually THC, has anti-cancer properties - it has to, otherwise people would get cancer, but they never ever do.

If that study only looked at the bad effects of acetaldehyde - then it is flawed in saying that cannabis is as dangerous as tobacco - because it doesn't take into account the hugely positive counter effect which THC has.

It needs to look at what cannabis does as well which tobacco clearly doesn't. Cannabis is looking after it's users - incredibly it is making these highly dangerous carcinogens completely safe.

That's a guaranteed fact - because no-one has ever got lung cancer from cannabis.
Bob marley
In July 1977, Bob Marley was found to have a type of malignant melanoma under the nail of one of his toes.

Are your toes the same thing as your lungs Keep Darwen? In your head of cannabis smoking lizards they probably are.
The cancer on his toe didn't kill him you idiot, he died of lung cancer after years of hittin da pipe bro. Honestly I ask yer.Who in the world woud die of cancer of the toe nail.

Cha'mone MF says...
6:44pm Wed 7 Mar 12

Jack Herer wrote:
Sorry meant to add - relatively little harm as in, for instance, hospital admissions;

alcohol - 1,000,000+
cannabis - 750

Nothing is harmless - a tea cosy killed someone the other year - seriously.
And Brazil nuts, font forget Brazil nuts, they kill people in Brazil.

Keep Darwen Green says...
6:52pm Wed 7 Mar 12

Chris P Bacon wrote:
A psychologist could hold an entire day's case conference on the metal problems demonstrated by the Darwen looney on here. And she/he/it's too stupid to be embarrassed!

There's sometimes no words to describe the blight that affects some people's minds. That simple phrase could have been written ABOUT the Darwen psycho.
Hello crispy spellchecker, I didn't know I had a metal problem, is that from listening to Nirvana?

Cha'mone MF says...
6:53pm Wed 7 Mar 12

nice person wrote:
nice person wrote:
nice person wrote:
DEAR EDITOR
Can i ask why you have as yet not printed the story from fridays Burnley Magistrates court?The one with the racially aggrivated public order offence,to which the thing was found guilty??
DEAR EDITOR
Where are yoooooooooooooou ??
What an ego you have! You've quoted yourself twice now!

Your who's writing cheques your body can't cash !!!

Cha'mone MF says...
6:56pm Wed 7 Mar 12

Cha'mone MF wrote:
nice person wrote:
nice person wrote:
nice person wrote:
DEAR EDITOR
Can i ask why you have as yet not printed the story from fridays Burnley Magistrates court?The one with the racially aggrivated public order offence,to which the thing was found guilty??
DEAR EDITOR
Where are yoooooooooooooou ??
What an ego you have! You've quoted yourself twice now!

Your who's writing cheques your body can't cash !!!
That should have read ego's writing cheques your body can't cash!!!

My infamous 6th east Lancs finger got in the way!

Chris P Bacon says...
7:17pm Wed 7 Mar 12

Keep Darwen Green wrote:
Jack Herer wrote:
Keep Darwen Green wrote:
Jack Herer wrote:
nice person wrote:
A new study published by University of Leicester researchers has found "convincing evidence" that cannabis smoke damages DNA in ways that could potentially increase the risk of cancer development in humans.
.
The authors added: “It is well known that toxic substances in tobacco smoke can damage DNA and increase the risk of lung and other cancers. Scientists were unsure though whether cannabis smoke would have the same effect. Our research has focused on the toxicity of acetaldehyde, which is present in both tobacco and cannabis.”
.
Make your mind up yourself as this is certainly a Contradictio in terminis...
That's right - cannabis, when burnt, has some of the same nasty carcinogens as tobacco.

Here's the amazing thing though - even though millions and millions of people have caught cancer from those carcinogens from smoking tobacco - no-one has ever caught cancer from the exact same carcinogens from smoking cannabis - no-one, not ever. Isn't that weird.

The truth therefore, which scientists now know, is that cannabis, or actually THC, has anti-cancer properties - it has to, otherwise people would get cancer, but they never ever do.

If that study only looked at the bad effects of acetaldehyde - then it is flawed in saying that cannabis is as dangerous as tobacco - because it doesn't take into account the hugely positive counter effect which THC has.

It needs to look at what cannabis does as well which tobacco clearly doesn't. Cannabis is looking after it's users - incredibly it is making these highly dangerous carcinogens completely safe.

That's a guaranteed fact - because no-one has ever got lung cancer from cannabis.
Bob marley
In July 1977, Bob Marley was found to have a type of malignant melanoma under the nail of one of his toes.

Are your toes the same thing as your lungs Keep Darwen? In your head of cannabis smoking lizards they probably are.
The cancer on his toe didn't kill him you idiot, he died of lung cancer after years of hittin da pipe bro. Honestly I ask yer.Who in the world woud die of cancer of the toe nail.
Why let facts stand in the way of your stupidity? Bob Marley DID NOT die of lung cancer. He died as a result of refusing to have his toe amputated because it was against his Rastafarianism.

If you can PROVE he died of lung cancer, we won't laugh at you to the extent we do.

And of two Beatles, one smoked fags, the other smoked the weed. The fag smoker died as a result of consumption of the entirely legal drug while the weed smoker is still fit and well and writing songs to this day. In fact, DESPITE his penchant for the weed and imprisonment for it, he was made a knight. By the Queen.

Keep Darwen Green says...
7:31pm Wed 7 Mar 12

So you talking about stupidity, the irony is creaisng. So if you smoke cannabis you don't get cancer look at Mr Mcartney, oh but hang on a minute if you don't get cancer what happened to Bob marley, he smoked weed exclusively and died of cancer, but didn't you just say Mcartney did and he didn't, you're confusing yourself Cripsy. Next you'll be saying that John Lennon died because he smoked fags, maybe if he hadn't nipped out for a crafty one he would still be here, behave yourself, don't try and jump in on a subject of which you know absolutely nothing and some idiot coming on here and saying weed prolonged marleys life nearly made me wet my knickers.
And the last comment about despite having been to prison for weed he was knighted by the queen really did make me wet my knickers. You're so funny.
You see this it what happens when your head goes to pot. You are turning into a lizard

Chris P Bacon says...
7:43pm Wed 7 Mar 12

Keep Darwen Green wrote:
So you talking about stupidity, the irony is creaisng. So if you smoke cannabis you don't get cancer look at Mr Mcartney, oh but hang on a minute if you don't get cancer what happened to Bob marley, he smoked weed exclusively and died of cancer, but didn't you just say Mcartney did and he didn't, you're confusing yourself Cripsy. Next you'll be saying that John Lennon died because he smoked fags, maybe if he hadn't nipped out for a crafty one he would still be here, behave yourself, don't try and jump in on a subject of which you know absolutely nothing and some idiot coming on here and saying weed prolonged marleys life nearly made me wet my knickers.
And the last comment about despite having been to prison for weed he was knighted by the queen really did make me wet my knickers. You're so funny.
You see this it what happens when your head goes to pot. You are turning into a lizard
It's as plain as the nose on your face that you are on something stronger than cannabis. And as you've been on here all day, again, you're clearly a stranger to gainful employment.

So to re-iterate, what I posted above are irrefutable facts while I reckon we'll be waiting a looong while for you to come up with the proof Bob Marley died of lung cancer. Good luck with getting the coroner issuing a certificate that suits your one-eyed opinion there.

And of the two of us, one is most definitely the idiot and as it's not me, it must be....

Keep Darwen Green says...
7:55pm Wed 7 Mar 12

Chris P Bacon wrote:
Keep Darwen Green wrote:
So you talking about stupidity, the irony is creaisng. So if you smoke cannabis you don't get cancer look at Mr Mcartney, oh but hang on a minute if you don't get cancer what happened to Bob marley, he smoked weed exclusively and died of cancer, but didn't you just say Mcartney did and he didn't, you're confusing yourself Cripsy. Next you'll be saying that John Lennon died because he smoked fags, maybe if he hadn't nipped out for a crafty one he would still be here, behave yourself, don't try and jump in on a subject of which you know absolutely nothing and some idiot coming on here and saying weed prolonged marleys life nearly made me wet my knickers.
And the last comment about despite having been to prison for weed he was knighted by the queen really did make me wet my knickers. You're so funny.
You see this it what happens when your head goes to pot. You are turning into a lizard
It's as plain as the nose on your face that you are on something stronger than cannabis. And as you've been on here all day, again, you're clearly a stranger to gainful employment.

So to re-iterate, what I posted above are irrefutable facts while I reckon we'll be waiting a looong while for you to come up with the proof Bob Marley died of lung cancer. Good luck with getting the coroner issuing a certificate that suits your one-eyed opinion there.

And of the two of us, one is most definitely the idiot and as it's not me, it must be....
Its on Wikipedia, he had cancer in his toe which spread to his brain and his lungs, he then died, but you already knew that you just wouldn't admit it. So you are saying he died from cancer of the toe, and I am saying he died of lung cancer, make your own minds up but remember one thing, you say that cannabis smokers don't get cancer yet here we have marley who clearly did its on his death certificate, so it didn't help him none did it. Your DNA has clearly been altered already, do you have two sets of eyelids and a long tongue?

living the end times in BB1 says...
7:56pm Wed 7 Mar 12

They were told of a “strong smell” of cannabis coming from a house further down the road, opposite The Ivy pub.

A simple case of grass on grass.

Jack Herer says...
8:21pm Wed 7 Mar 12

Keep Darwen Green wrote:
Jack Herer wrote:
Keep Darwen Green wrote:
Jack Herer wrote:
nice person wrote:
A new study published by University of Leicester researchers has found "convincing evidence" that cannabis smoke damages DNA in ways that could potentially increase the risk of cancer development in humans.
.
The authors added: “It is well known that toxic substances in tobacco smoke can damage DNA and increase the risk of lung and other cancers. Scientists were unsure though whether cannabis smoke would have the same effect. Our research has focused on the toxicity of acetaldehyde, which is present in both tobacco and cannabis.”
.
Make your mind up yourself as this is certainly a Contradictio in terminis...
That's right - cannabis, when burnt, has some of the same nasty carcinogens as tobacco.

Here's the amazing thing though - even though millions and millions of people have caught cancer from those carcinogens from smoking tobacco - no-one has ever caught cancer from the exact same carcinogens from smoking cannabis - no-one, not ever. Isn't that weird.

The truth therefore, which scientists now know, is that cannabis, or actually THC, has anti-cancer properties - it has to, otherwise people would get cancer, but they never ever do.

If that study only looked at the bad effects of acetaldehyde - then it is flawed in saying that cannabis is as dangerous as tobacco - because it doesn't take into account the hugely positive counter effect which THC has.

It needs to look at what cannabis does as well which tobacco clearly doesn't. Cannabis is looking after it's users - incredibly it is making these highly dangerous carcinogens completely safe.

That's a guaranteed fact - because no-one has ever got lung cancer from cannabis.
Bob marley
In July 1977, Bob Marley was found to have a type of malignant melanoma under the nail of one of his toes.

Are your toes the same thing as your lungs Keep Darwen? In your head of cannabis smoking lizards they probably are.
The cancer on his toe didn't kill him you idiot, he died of lung cancer after years of hittin da pipe bro. Honestly I ask yer.Who in the world woud die of cancer of the toe nail.
Bob Marley did honestly. The doctors wanted to amputate it, he wouldn't let them - it spread, he died.

Do you even know what cancer is? Or do you just think it's something bad that people get? Is that the limit of your knowledge or are lizard people involved in your cancer theories too?

Cannabis can't get to every part of the body by smoking it. Certainly not your toe.

nice person says...
8:42pm Wed 7 Mar 12

Cha'mone MF wrote:
Cha'mone MF wrote:
nice person wrote:
nice person wrote:
nice person wrote:
DEAR EDITOR
Can i ask why you have as yet not printed the story from fridays Burnley Magistrates court?The one with the racially aggrivated public order offence,to which the thing was found guilty??
DEAR EDITOR
Where are yoooooooooooooou ??
What an ego you have! You've quoted yourself twice now!

Your who's writing cheques your body can't cash !!!
That should have read ego's writing cheques your body can't cash!!!

My infamous 6th east Lancs finger got in the way!
Do you have to be offensive to anyone who comments,or just the chosen few you feel you can pick at?

Keep Darwen Green says...
8:46pm Wed 7 Mar 12

Jack Herer wrote:
Keep Darwen Green wrote:
Jack Herer wrote:
Keep Darwen Green wrote:
Jack Herer wrote:
nice person wrote:
A new study published by University of Leicester researchers has found "convincing evidence" that cannabis smoke damages DNA in ways that could potentially increase the risk of cancer development in humans.
.
The authors added: “It is well known that toxic substances in tobacco smoke can damage DNA and increase the risk of lung and other cancers. Scientists were unsure though whether cannabis smoke would have the same effect. Our research has focused on the toxicity of acetaldehyde, which is present in both tobacco and cannabis.”
.
Make your mind up yourself as this is certainly a Contradictio in terminis...
That's right - cannabis, when burnt, has some of the same nasty carcinogens as tobacco.

Here's the amazing thing though - even though millions and millions of people have caught cancer from those carcinogens from smoking tobacco - no-one has ever caught cancer from the exact same carcinogens from smoking cannabis - no-one, not ever. Isn't that weird.

The truth therefore, which scientists now know, is that cannabis, or actually THC, has anti-cancer properties - it has to, otherwise people would get cancer, but they never ever do.

If that study only looked at the bad effects of acetaldehyde - then it is flawed in saying that cannabis is as dangerous as tobacco - because it doesn't take into account the hugely positive counter effect which THC has.

It needs to look at what cannabis does as well which tobacco clearly doesn't. Cannabis is looking after it's users - incredibly it is making these highly dangerous carcinogens completely safe.

That's a guaranteed fact - because no-one has ever got lung cancer from cannabis.
Bob marley
In July 1977, Bob Marley was found to have a type of malignant melanoma under the nail of one of his toes.

Are your toes the same thing as your lungs Keep Darwen? In your head of cannabis smoking lizards they probably are.
The cancer on his toe didn't kill him you idiot, he died of lung cancer after years of hittin da pipe bro. Honestly I ask yer.Who in the world woud die of cancer of the toe nail.
Bob Marley did honestly. The doctors wanted to amputate it, he wouldn't let them - it spread, he died.

Do you even know what cancer is? Or do you just think it's something bad that people get? Is that the limit of your knowledge or are lizard people involved in your cancer theories too?

Cannabis can't get to every part of the body by smoking it. Certainly not your toe.
its common knowledge when Veins collapse through too much needle use that injections can be made between the toes. Maybe he had one cannabis injection too many. People on here were spouting that cannabis users don't get cancer Marley did.

nice person says...
8:48pm Wed 7 Mar 12

I don't have an ego,if you knew why i asked you may well want to apologise before trying to yet hi lite what you somehow feel to be amusing.

Jack Herer says...
9:10pm Wed 7 Mar 12

Cha'mone MF wrote:
Jack Herer wrote:
Sorry meant to add - relatively little harm as in, for instance, hospital admissions;

alcohol - 1,000,000+
cannabis - 750

Nothing is harmless - a tea cosy killed someone the other year - seriously.
And Brazil nuts, font forget Brazil nuts, they kill people in Brazil.
Ah Cha'mone MF - where have you been until now?

Did you look up Lester Grinspoon? He isn't an idiot. He is is Associate Professor Emeritus of Psychiatry at Harvard Medical School. He was senior psychiatrist at the Massachusetts Mental Health Center in Boston for 40 years.Dr. Grinspoon is a fellow of the American Association for the Advancement of Science and the American Psychiatric Association. He was founding editor of the Annual Review of Psychiatry and the Harvard Mental Health Letter. He was editor of the Harvard Mental Health Letter for fifteen years.

When he started out he thought like you did, but he was a man in a position to find out the actual facts. He has. He's no fool. He thinks cannabis will be the miracle medicine of the next era.

Cha'mone MF says...
9:24pm Wed 7 Mar 12

nice person wrote:
Cha'mone MF wrote:
Cha'mone MF wrote:
nice person wrote:
nice person wrote:
nice person wrote:
DEAR EDITOR
Can i ask why you have as yet not printed the story from fridays Burnley Magistrates court?The one with the racially aggrivated public order offence,to which the thing was found guilty??
DEAR EDITOR
Where are yoooooooooooooou ??
What an ego you have! You've quoted yourself twice now!

Your who's writing cheques your body can't cash !!!
That should have read ego's writing cheques your body can't cash!!!

My infamous 6th east Lancs finger got in the way!
Do you have to be offensive to anyone who comments,or just the chosen few you feel you can pick at?
No offence meant matey, just pulling yer leg! It was a quote from one of the greatest ever 80's films! (I was actually referring to my own fingers!)

To maybe assist in shedding light on your original point, the LET seem to be mire than a little selective on which stories they allow us to comment on. In this instance because there was a racial flavour to it the likelihood of a raft of riskay, close to the knuckle posts was quite high. Which is Disappointing for those of us that would have liked to have aired our opinions on the matter but on the flip side it prevents bellends like RAyzer, aka "ALF GARNETT" from using the story as a platform to spout off their increadibly thick and ignorant opinions.

Keep Darwen Green says...
9:26pm Wed 7 Mar 12

Jack Herer wrote:
Cha'mone MF wrote:
Jack Herer wrote:
Sorry meant to add - relatively little harm as in, for instance, hospital admissions;

alcohol - 1,000,000+
cannabis - 750

Nothing is harmless - a tea cosy killed someone the other year - seriously.
And Brazil nuts, font forget Brazil nuts, they kill people in Brazil.
Ah Cha'mone MF - where have you been until now?

Did you look up Lester Grinspoon? He isn't an idiot. He is is Associate Professor Emeritus of Psychiatry at Harvard Medical School. He was senior psychiatrist at the Massachusetts Mental Health Center in Boston for 40 years.Dr. Grinspoon is a fellow of the American Association for the Advancement of Science and the American Psychiatric Association. He was founding editor of the Annual Review of Psychiatry and the Harvard Mental Health Letter. He was editor of the Harvard Mental Health Letter for fifteen years.

When he started out he thought like you did, but he was a man in a position to find out the actual facts. He has. He's no fool. He thinks cannabis will be the miracle medicine of the next era.
And did you look up Kyle kay, who loaded himself up with cannabis and then kicked his best friend to death.

DJ_Jaybee says...
9:29pm Wed 7 Mar 12

Simply living alters your DNA... thats how you pass on useful information on everything you've processed and experienced genetically to your offspring... that's an evolutionary process...

Cha'mone MF says...
9:29pm Wed 7 Mar 12

Jack Herer wrote:
Cha'mone MF wrote:
Jack Herer wrote:
Sorry meant to add - relatively little harm as in, for instance, hospital admissions;

alcohol - 1,000,000+
cannabis - 750

Nothing is harmless - a tea cosy killed someone the other year - seriously.
And Brazil nuts, font forget Brazil nuts, they kill people in Brazil.
Ah Cha'mone MF - where have you been until now?

Did you look up Lester Grinspoon? He isn't an idiot. He is is Associate Professor Emeritus of Psychiatry at Harvard Medical School. He was senior psychiatrist at the Massachusetts Mental Health Center in Boston for 40 years.Dr. Grinspoon is a fellow of the American Association for the Advancement of Science and the American Psychiatric Association. He was founding editor of the Annual Review of Psychiatry and the Harvard Mental Health Letter. He was editor of the Harvard Mental Health Letter for fifteen years.

When he started out he thought like you did, but he was a man in a position to find out the actual facts. He has. He's no fool. He thinks cannabis will be the miracle medicine of the next era.
Good evening Jack!

I'm googling Lester as I type this. I'll get back to you.

Cha'mone MF says...
9:31pm Wed 7 Mar 12

DJ_Jaybee wrote:
Simply living alters your DNA... thats how you pass on useful information on everything you've processed and experienced genetically to your offspring... that's an evolutionary process...
Jesus, you have never been to Brierfield then!

Keep Darwen Green says...
9:36pm Wed 7 Mar 12

DJ_Jaybee wrote:
Simply living alters your DNA... thats how you pass on useful information on everything you've processed and experienced genetically to your offspring... that's an evolutionary process...
Have you just returned from the K-hole with that thought, mesmerising!

jack daniels says...
9:39pm Wed 7 Mar 12

Cha'mone MF wrote:
nice person wrote:
Cha'mone MF wrote:
Cha'mone MF wrote:
nice person wrote:
nice person wrote:
nice person wrote:
DEAR EDITOR
Can i ask why you have as yet not printed the story from fridays Burnley Magistrates court?The one with the racially aggrivated public order offence,to which the thing was found guilty??
DEAR EDITOR
Where are yoooooooooooooou ??
What an ego you have! You've quoted yourself twice now!

Your who's writing cheques your body can't cash !!!
That should have read ego's writing cheques your body can't cash!!!

My infamous 6th east Lancs finger got in the way!
Do you have to be offensive to anyone who comments,or just the chosen few you feel you can pick at?
No offence meant matey, just pulling yer leg! It was a quote from one of the greatest ever 80's films! (I was actually referring to my own fingers!)

To maybe assist in shedding light on your original point, the LET seem to be mire than a little selective on which stories they allow us to comment on. In this instance because there was a racial flavour to it the likelihood of a raft of riskay, close to the knuckle posts was quite high. Which is Disappointing for those of us that would have liked to have aired our opinions on the matter but on the flip side it prevents bellends like RAyzer, aka "ALF GARNETT" from using the story as a platform to spout off their increadibly thick and ignorant opinions.
So on Alf's behalf. If we legalised cannabis we would make 15% of the male Asian population unemployed in one fell swoop. BMW and Audi at whitebirk would have to law staff off too. Legalisation is price too high....

Cha'mone MF says...
9:44pm Wed 7 Mar 12

jack daniels wrote:
Cha'mone MF wrote:
nice person wrote:
Cha'mone MF wrote:
Cha'mone MF wrote:
nice person wrote:
nice person wrote:
nice person wrote:
DEAR EDITOR
Can i ask why you have as yet not printed the story from fridays Burnley Magistrates court?The one with the racially aggrivated public order offence,to which the thing was found guilty??
DEAR EDITOR
Where are yoooooooooooooou ??
What an ego you have! You've quoted yourself twice now!

Your who's writing cheques your body can't cash !!!
That should have read ego's writing cheques your body can't cash!!!

My infamous 6th east Lancs finger got in the way!
Do you have to be offensive to anyone who comments,or just the chosen few you feel you can pick at?
No offence meant matey, just pulling yer leg! It was a quote from one of the greatest ever 80's films! (I was actually referring to my own fingers!)

To maybe assist in shedding light on your original point, the LET seem to be mire than a little selective on which stories they allow us to comment on. In this instance because there was a racial flavour to it the likelihood of a raft of riskay, close to the knuckle posts was quite high. Which is Disappointing for those of us that would have liked to have aired our opinions on the matter but on the flip side it prevents bellends like RAyzer, aka "ALF GARNETT" from using the story as a platform to spout off their increadibly thick and ignorant opinions.
So on Alf's behalf. If we legalised cannabis we would make 15% of the male Asian population unemployed in one fell swoop. BMW and Audi at whitebirk would have to law staff off too. Legalisation is price too high....
Only 15 % ?

Jack Herer says...
9:46pm Wed 7 Mar 12

Keep Darwen Green, I have to tell you this to stop embarrassing yourself.

Just like I told you this yesterday - you can no more inject cannabis than you could cheese.

Queen Victoria didn't inject cannabis. Monkeys don't ever inject cannabis like you claim.

Ask yourself Keep Darwen Green, how would monkeys have the capability to inject themselves with cannabis? Is there a monkey needle exchange programme out there for problem cannabis monkeys? Presumably it was trialled first in the Dominican Republic.

Or do you think monkeys have somehow developed their own intricate intravenous injection system - bypassing the wheel and other basic inventions and gone straight for something which can give them their sweet sweet cannabis?

I think I can say with some certainty that monkeys have never injected cannabis.

No-one has.

How would monkeys ever inject cannabis Keep Darwen Green?

living the end times in BB1 says...
9:49pm Wed 7 Mar 12

jack daniels wrote:
Cha'mone MF wrote:
nice person wrote:
Cha'mone MF wrote:
Cha'mone MF wrote:
nice person wrote:
nice person wrote:
nice person wrote:
DEAR EDITOR
Can i ask why you have as yet not printed the story from fridays Burnley Magistrates court?The one with the racially aggrivated public order offence,to which the thing was found guilty??
DEAR EDITOR
Where are yoooooooooooooou ??
What an ego you have! You've quoted yourself twice now!

Your who's writing cheques your body can't cash !!!
That should have read ego's writing cheques your body can't cash!!!

My infamous 6th east Lancs finger got in the way!
Do you have to be offensive to anyone who comments,or just the chosen few you feel you can pick at?
No offence meant matey, just pulling yer leg! It was a quote from one of the greatest ever 80's films! (I was actually referring to my own fingers!)

To maybe assist in shedding light on your original point, the LET seem to be mire than a little selective on which stories they allow us to comment on. In this instance because there was a racial flavour to it the likelihood of a raft of riskay, close to the knuckle posts was quite high. Which is Disappointing for those of us that would have liked to have aired our opinions on the matter but on the flip side it prevents bellends like RAyzer, aka "ALF GARNETT" from using the story as a platform to spout off their increadibly thick and ignorant opinions.
So on Alf's behalf. If we legalised cannabis we would make 15% of the male Asian population unemployed in one fell swoop. BMW and Audi at whitebirk would have to law staff off too. Legalisation is price too high....
'At least some fcuker is getting high'..! certainly not on Infirmary St.

jack daniels says...
9:52pm Wed 7 Mar 12

Cha'mone MF wrote:
jack daniels wrote:
Cha'mone MF wrote:
nice person wrote:
Cha'mone MF wrote:
Cha'mone MF wrote:
nice person wrote:
nice person wrote:
nice person wrote:
DEAR EDITOR
Can i ask why you have as yet not printed the story from fridays Burnley Magistrates court?The one with the racially aggrivated public order offence,to which the thing was found guilty??
DEAR EDITOR
Where are yoooooooooooooou ??
What an ego you have! You've quoted yourself twice now!

Your who's writing cheques your body can't cash !!!
That should have read ego's writing cheques your body can't cash!!!

My infamous 6th east Lancs finger got in the way!
Do you have to be offensive to anyone who comments,or just the chosen few you feel you can pick at?
No offence meant matey, just pulling yer leg! It was a quote from one of the greatest ever 80's films! (I was actually referring to my own fingers!)

To maybe assist in shedding light on your original point, the LET seem to be mire than a little selective on which stories they allow us to comment on. In this instance because there was a racial flavour to it the likelihood of a raft of riskay, close to the knuckle posts was quite high. Which is Disappointing for those of us that would have liked to have aired our opinions on the matter but on the flip side it prevents bellends like RAyzer, aka "ALF GARNETT" from using the story as a platform to spout off their increadibly thick and ignorant opinions.
So on Alf's behalf. If we legalised cannabis we would make 15% of the male Asian population unemployed in one fell swoop. BMW and Audi at whitebirk would have to law staff off too. Legalisation is price too high....
Only 15 % ?
Something tells me that getting a more accurate head count would be bad for my health. ;-)

Cha'mone MF says...
10:01pm Wed 7 Mar 12

Cha'mone MF wrote:
Jack Herer wrote:
Cha'mone MF wrote:
Jack Herer wrote:
Sorry meant to add - relatively little harm as in, for instance, hospital admissions;

alcohol - 1,000,000+
cannabis - 750

Nothing is harmless - a tea cosy killed someone the other year - seriously.
And Brazil nuts, font forget Brazil nuts, they kill people in Brazil.
Ah Cha'mone MF - where have you been until now?

Did you look up Lester Grinspoon? He isn't an idiot. He is is Associate Professor Emeritus of Psychiatry at Harvard Medical School. He was senior psychiatrist at the Massachusetts Mental Health Center in Boston for 40 years.Dr. Grinspoon is a fellow of the American Association for the Advancement of Science and the American Psychiatric Association. He was founding editor of the Annual Review of Psychiatry and the Harvard Mental Health Letter. He was editor of the Harvard Mental Health Letter for fifteen years.

When he started out he thought like you did, but he was a man in a position to find out the actual facts. He has. He's no fool. He thinks cannabis will be the miracle medicine of the next era.
Good evening Jack!

I'm googling Lester as I type this. I'll get back to you.
Well old Lester certainly makes a reasonable point and I can see reason in his argument but he fails to see the wider implications to society as a whole if it were to be legalised across society. Has anybody entertained the notion
That the overwhelming majority might not want it legalising?
If it ever did happen then you have to accept that it would come at a price, it couldn't possibly be a smooth transition. It's also quite telling that, and I'll stand corrected on this, Holland is probably the only country that would be considered a modern and civilised one to have gone down this route And I'm pretty sure it will have problems associated with that. For instance I'm sure the drug driving offence rate is considerably higher in comparison to the UK.

nslasha says...
10:16pm Wed 7 Mar 12

you guys crack me up

Cha'mone MF says...
10:26pm Wed 7 Mar 12

Keep Darwen Green wrote:
Jack Herer wrote:
Cha'mone MF wrote:
Jack Herer wrote:
Sorry meant to add - relatively little harm as in, for instance, hospital admissions;

alcohol - 1,000,000+
cannabis - 750

Nothing is harmless - a tea cosy killed someone the other year - seriously.
And Brazil nuts, font forget Brazil nuts, they kill people in Brazil.
Ah Cha'mone MF - where have you been until now?

Did you look up Lester Grinspoon? He isn't an idiot. He is is Associate Professor Emeritus of Psychiatry at Harvard Medical School. He was senior psychiatrist at the Massachusetts Mental Health Center in Boston for 40 years.Dr. Grinspoon is a fellow of the American Association for the Advancement of Science and the American Psychiatric Association. He was founding editor of the Annual Review of Psychiatry and the Harvard Mental Health Letter. He was editor of the Harvard Mental Health Letter for fifteen years.

When he started out he thought like you did, but he was a man in a position to find out the actual facts. He has. He's no fool. He thinks cannabis will be the miracle medicine of the next era.
And did you look up Kyle kay, who loaded himself up with cannabis and then kicked his best friend to death.
And I have to say mate I agree with you on this one, although this story does have a certain cider aggravating factor this subhuman vomit Kay has a mental health condition clearly fuelled by cannabis abuse! You don't hear of this sort of thing that often but it does happen and I bet this isn't an isolated case. It is clear evidence that cannabis does cause substantial health problems, granted not always to this extent. The pro "narbis" group need to acknowledge this particular side of the argument.

Cha'mone MF says...
10:30pm Wed 7 Mar 12

living the end times in BB1 wrote:
jack daniels wrote:
Cha'mone MF wrote:
nice person wrote:
Cha'mone MF wrote:
Cha'mone MF wrote:
nice person wrote:
nice person wrote:
nice person wrote:
DEAR EDITOR
Can i ask why you have as yet not printed the story from fridays Burnley Magistrates court?The one with the racially aggrivated public order offence,to which the thing was found guilty??
DEAR EDITOR
Where are yoooooooooooooou ??
What an ego you have! You've quoted yourself twice now!

Your who's writing cheques your body can't cash !!!
That should have read ego's writing cheques your body can't cash!!!

My infamous 6th east Lancs finger got in the way!
Do you have to be offensive to anyone who comments,or just the chosen few you feel you can pick at?
No offence meant matey, just pulling yer leg! It was a quote from one of the greatest ever 80's films! (I was actually referring to my own fingers!)

To maybe assist in shedding light on your original point, the LET seem to be mire than a little selective on which stories they allow us to comment on. In this instance because there was a racial flavour to it the likelihood of a raft of riskay, close to the knuckle posts was quite high. Which is Disappointing for those of us that would have liked to have aired our opinions on the matter but on the flip side it prevents bellends like RAyzer, aka "ALF GARNETT" from using the story as a platform to spout off their increadibly thick and ignorant opinions.
So on Alf's behalf. If we legalised cannabis we would make 15% of the male Asian population unemployed in one fell swoop. BMW and Audi at whitebirk would have to law staff off too. Legalisation is price too high....
'At least some fcuker is getting high'..! certainly not on Infirmary St.
Brilliant :)

Keep Darwen Green says...
10:32pm Wed 7 Mar 12

Jack Herer wrote:
Keep Darwen Green, I have to tell you this to stop embarrassing yourself.

Just like I told you this yesterday - you can no more inject cannabis than you could cheese.

Queen Victoria didn't inject cannabis. Monkeys don't ever inject cannabis like you claim.

Ask yourself Keep Darwen Green, how would monkeys have the capability to inject themselves with cannabis? Is there a monkey needle exchange programme out there for problem cannabis monkeys? Presumably it was trialled first in the Dominican Republic.

Or do you think monkeys have somehow developed their own intricate intravenous injection system - bypassing the wheel and other basic inventions and gone straight for something which can give them their sweet sweet cannabis?

I think I can say with some certainty that monkeys have never injected cannabis.

No-one has.

How would monkeys ever inject cannabis Keep Darwen Green?
I take it you havn't watched the ancient alien theory that is in its fifth series. They are showing it all this weekend on sky, I suggest you watch it or just google sumarians who have it written in ancient texts that the gods came down from the stars, that'd be me, encountered primitive ape like creatures that inhabited the planet, that'd be you, and altered their DNA in order to make them intelligent enough to do their bidding. So they came down, injected some monkeys with cannabis and hey presto human beings. Isn't it funny how in every religion from all parts of the globe, even though civilisations were isolated from one another all have the same story about gods coming down from above, messing with nature and bingo here we are, a race full of cannabis injectors.
Injection= a means by which, usually via a tube, to introduce a foreign object, usually chemical, into the blood stream. So every time you biff one up and smoke it, you are injecting yourself with cannabis you are just doing it via your lungs thats all. Jeez you're a bit slow aren't you? But you make me laugh a lot with your blind following of all things weed. IIIIIIRRREEEEEENE.

nslasha says...
10:37pm Wed 7 Mar 12

Keep Darwen Green wrote:
Jack Herer wrote:
Keep Darwen Green, I have to tell you this to stop embarrassing yourself.

Just like I told you this yesterday - you can no more inject cannabis than you could cheese.

Queen Victoria didn't inject cannabis. Monkeys don't ever inject cannabis like you claim.

Ask yourself Keep Darwen Green, how would monkeys have the capability to inject themselves with cannabis? Is there a monkey needle exchange programme out there for problem cannabis monkeys? Presumably it was trialled first in the Dominican Republic.

Or do you think monkeys have somehow developed their own intricate intravenous injection system - bypassing the wheel and other basic inventions and gone straight for something which can give them their sweet sweet cannabis?

I think I can say with some certainty that monkeys have never injected cannabis.

No-one has.

How would monkeys ever inject cannabis Keep Darwen Green?
I take it you havn't watched the ancient alien theory that is in its fifth series. They are showing it all this weekend on sky, I suggest you watch it or just google sumarians who have it written in ancient texts that the gods came down from the stars, that'd be me, encountered primitive ape like creatures that inhabited the planet, that'd be you, and altered their DNA in order to make them intelligent enough to do their bidding. So they came down, injected some monkeys with cannabis and hey presto human beings. Isn't it funny how in every religion from all parts of the globe, even though civilisations were isolated from one another all have the same story about gods coming down from above, messing with nature and bingo here we are, a race full of cannabis injectors.
Injection= a means by which, usually via a tube, to introduce a foreign object, usually chemical, into the blood stream. So every time you biff one up and smoke it, you are injecting yourself with cannabis you are just doing it via your lungs thats all. Jeez you're a bit slow aren't you? But you make me laugh a lot with your blind following of all things weed. IIIIIIRRREEEEEENE.
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so shut the fvck up and discuss the **** article instead of talking bvllshit. i'm looking at you, keep darwen ill-educated

Keep Darwen Green says...
10:47pm Wed 7 Mar 12

nslasha wrote:
Keep Darwen Green wrote:
Jack Herer wrote:
Keep Darwen Green, I have to tell you this to stop embarrassing yourself.

Just like I told you this yesterday - you can no more inject cannabis than you could cheese.

Queen Victoria didn't inject cannabis. Monkeys don't ever inject cannabis like you claim.

Ask yourself Keep Darwen Green, how would monkeys have the capability to inject themselves with cannabis? Is there a monkey needle exchange programme out there for problem cannabis monkeys? Presumably it was trialled first in the Dominican Republic.

Or do you think monkeys have somehow developed their own intricate intravenous injection system - bypassing the wheel and other basic inventions and gone straight for something which can give them their sweet sweet cannabis?

I think I can say with some certainty that monkeys have never injected cannabis.

No-one has.

How would monkeys ever inject cannabis Keep Darwen Green?
I take it you havn't watched the ancient alien theory that is in its fifth series. They are showing it all this weekend on sky, I suggest you watch it or just google sumarians who have it written in ancient texts that the gods came down from the stars, that'd be me, encountered primitive ape like creatures that inhabited the planet, that'd be you, and altered their DNA in order to make them intelligent enough to do their bidding. So they came down, injected some monkeys with cannabis and hey presto human beings. Isn't it funny how in every religion from all parts of the globe, even though civilisations were isolated from one another all have the same story about gods coming down from above, messing with nature and bingo here we are, a race full of cannabis injectors.
Injection= a means by which, usually via a tube, to introduce a foreign object, usually chemical, into the blood stream. So every time you biff one up and smoke it, you are injecting yourself with cannabis you are just doing it via your lungs thats all. Jeez you're a bit slow aren't you? But you make me laugh a lot with your blind following of all things weed. IIIIIIRRREEEEEENE.
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so shut the fvck up and discuss the **** article instead of talking bvllshit. i'm looking at you, keep darwen ill-educated
Hey up, another cannabis injector returns from the K-hole. Fresh from unblending himself from the axminster of which he had become one. Your DNA has now been altered and your offspring will never turn out 100% ever again. The more bong you plop, the more mong you drop.

nice person says...
11:03pm Wed 7 Mar 12

Cha'mone MF wrote:
nice person wrote:
Cha'mone MF wrote:
Cha'mone MF wrote:
nice person wrote:
nice person wrote:
nice person wrote:
DEAR EDITOR
Can i ask why you have as yet not printed the story from fridays Burnley Magistrates court?The one with the racially aggrivated public order offence,to which the thing was found guilty??
DEAR EDITOR
Where are yoooooooooooooou ??
What an ego you have! You've quoted yourself twice now!

Your who's writing cheques your body can't cash !!!
That should have read ego's writing cheques your body can't cash!!!

My infamous 6th east Lancs finger got in the way!
Do you have to be offensive to anyone who comments,or just the chosen few you feel you can pick at?
No offence meant matey, just pulling yer leg! It was a quote from one of the greatest ever 80's films! (I was actually referring to my own fingers!)

To maybe assist in shedding light on your original point, the LET seem to be mire than a little selective on which stories they allow us to comment on. In this instance because there was a racial flavour to it the likelihood of a raft of riskay, close to the knuckle posts was quite high. Which is Disappointing for those of us that would have liked to have aired our opinions on the matter but on the flip side it prevents bellends like RAyzer, aka "ALF GARNETT" from using the story as a platform to spout off their increadibly thick and ignorant opinions.
I see..I still feel the person who has been charged should be publicly shamed for what he has done.It was actually last weds not friday when it was in court...They could use the no comment option,to simply block a story furthermore adds to the tensions already existing..I feel strongly that this story should be printed,and more than dissapointed that it has not been.

Darrens Delivery Service says...
11:03pm Wed 7 Mar 12

Blimey...going for a smoke after reading all this..l.o.l.

Cha'mone MF says...
11:06pm Wed 7 Mar 12

Keep Darwen Green wrote:
nslasha wrote:
Keep Darwen Green wrote:
Jack Herer wrote:
Keep Darwen Green, I have to tell you this to stop embarrassing yourself.

Just like I told you this yesterday - you can no more inject cannabis than you could cheese.

Queen Victoria didn't inject cannabis. Monkeys don't ever inject cannabis like you claim.

Ask yourself Keep Darwen Green, how would monkeys have the capability to inject themselves with cannabis? Is there a monkey needle exchange programme out there for problem cannabis monkeys? Presumably it was trialled first in the Dominican Republic.

Or do you think monkeys have somehow developed their own intricate intravenous injection system - bypassing the wheel and other basic inventions and gone straight for something which can give them their sweet sweet cannabis?

I think I can say with some certainty that monkeys have never injected cannabis.

No-one has.

How would monkeys ever inject cannabis Keep Darwen Green?I take it you havn't watched the ancient alien theory that is in its fifth series. They are showing it all this weekend on sky, I suggest you watch it or just google sumarians who have it written in ancient texts that the gods came down from the stars, that'd be me, encountered primitive ape like creatures that inhabited the planet, that'd be you, and altered their DNA in order to make them intelligent enough to do their bidding. So they came down, injected some monkeys with cannabis and hey presto human beings. Isn't it funny how in every religion from all parts of the globe, even though civilisations were isolated from one another all have the same story about gods coming down from above, messing with nature and bingo here we are, a race full of cannabis injectors.
Injection= a means by which, usually via a tube, to introduce a foreign object, usually chemical, into the blood stream. So every time you biff one up and smoke it, you are injecting yourself with cannabis you are just doing it via your lungs thats all. Jeez you're a bit slow aren't you? But you make me laugh a lot with your blind following of all things weed. IIIIIIRRREEEEEENE.https://fbcdn-sphoto


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This one has probably just arrived at infirmary street only to find his supplier in the back of a meat wagon and his would be purchase in an evidence bag. That's probably why he's so angry. Never mind he can always go back to his cave and snort brasso or rub mr muscle on his gums.

Keep Darwen Green says...
11:27pm Wed 7 Mar 12

arselasher wrote.
When I'm going short I always swear by sucking a brobat blue :0)

Jack Herer says...
11:41am Thu 8 Mar 12

Keep Darwen Green wrote:
Jack Herer wrote:
Keep Darwen Green, I have to tell you this to stop embarrassing yourself.

Just like I told you this yesterday - you can no more inject cannabis than you could cheese.

Queen Victoria didn't inject cannabis. Monkeys don't ever inject cannabis like you claim.

Ask yourself Keep Darwen Green, how would monkeys have the capability to inject themselves with cannabis? Is there a monkey needle exchange programme out there for problem cannabis monkeys? Presumably it was trialled first in the Dominican Republic.

Or do you think monkeys have somehow developed their own intricate intravenous injection system - bypassing the wheel and other basic inventions and gone straight for something which can give them their sweet sweet cannabis?

I think I can say with some certainty that monkeys have never injected cannabis.

No-one has.

How would monkeys ever inject cannabis Keep Darwen Green?
I take it you havn't watched the ancient alien theory that is in its fifth series. They are showing it all this weekend on sky, I suggest you watch it or just google sumarians who have it written in ancient texts that the gods came down from the stars, that'd be me, encountered primitive ape like creatures that inhabited the planet, that'd be you, and altered their DNA in order to make them intelligent enough to do their bidding. So they came down, injected some monkeys with cannabis and hey presto human beings. Isn't it funny how in every religion from all parts of the globe, even though civilisations were isolated from one another all have the same story about gods coming down from above, messing with nature and bingo here we are, a race full of cannabis injectors.
Injection= a means by which, usually via a tube, to introduce a foreign object, usually chemical, into the blood stream. So every time you biff one up and smoke it, you are injecting yourself with cannabis you are just doing it via your lungs thats all. Jeez you're a bit slow aren't you? But you make me laugh a lot with your blind following of all things weed. IIIIIIRRREEEEEENE.
Smoking isn't the same thing as injecting. Look up their definitions in any dictionary. It's ludicrous to suggest they are one and the same thing.

Holy smoley though. Keep Darwen Green - your theories against cannabis rely totally on aliens and lizard people.

Brilliant.

Quick question - are you care in the community by any chance?

Jack Herer says...
12:12pm Thu 8 Mar 12

Cha'mone MF wrote:
Cha'mone MF wrote:
Jack Herer wrote:
Cha'mone MF wrote:
Jack Herer wrote:
Sorry meant to add - relatively little harm as in, for instance, hospital admissions;

alcohol - 1,000,000+
cannabis - 750

Nothing is harmless - a tea cosy killed someone the other year - seriously.
And Brazil nuts, font forget Brazil nuts, they kill people in Brazil.
Ah Cha'mone MF - where have you been until now?

Did you look up Lester Grinspoon? He isn't an idiot. He is is Associate Professor Emeritus of Psychiatry at Harvard Medical School. He was senior psychiatrist at the Massachusetts Mental Health Center in Boston for 40 years.Dr. Grinspoon is a fellow of the American Association for the Advancement of Science and the American Psychiatric Association. He was founding editor of the Annual Review of Psychiatry and the Harvard Mental Health Letter. He was editor of the Harvard Mental Health Letter for fifteen years.

When he started out he thought like you did, but he was a man in a position to find out the actual facts. He has. He's no fool. He thinks cannabis will be the miracle medicine of the next era.
Good evening Jack!

I'm googling Lester as I type this. I'll get back to you.
Well old Lester certainly makes a reasonable point and I can see reason in his argument but he fails to see the wider implications to society as a whole if it were to be legalised across society. Has anybody entertained the notion
That the overwhelming majority might not want it legalising?
If it ever did happen then you have to accept that it would come at a price, it couldn't possibly be a smooth transition. It's also quite telling that, and I'll stand corrected on this, Holland is probably the only country that would be considered a modern and civilised one to have gone down this route And I'm pretty sure it will have problems associated with that. For instance I'm sure the drug driving offence rate is considerably higher in comparison to the UK.
It's not actually.

Holland has far less problems with cannabis than we do. Clearly prohibition isn't working on any level.

Holland has the highest average age of first use in Europe, i.e. youngsters in Holland first try cannabis later than everywhere else. Use of cannabis amongst Holland's young people is less than most other places as well.

It's far less than the UK and it's completely illegal here.

Go figure, with theories involving aliens and lizard people if possible.

Look - 300 years ago most people agreed with burning witches at the stake. It was no reason to keep that law forever. If the laws are unscientific and have a detrimental effect on society, then they need changing, regardless of the supreme ignorance of the general public's opinion on them.

Just like burning witches at the stake, our cannabis laws have no basis in science or reason.

Do we continue to live in ignorance forever? This isn't the dark ages - science and reason have held sway for a long time in all other areas of our life. Isn't it time they held sway with cannabis?

Scientifically there will only be positive benefits to society from cannabis legalisation. You do not have science on your side
CMF.

Keep Darwen Green says...
12:54pm Thu 8 Mar 12

Jack Herer wrote:
Keep Darwen Green wrote:
Jack Herer wrote:
Keep Darwen Green, I have to tell you this to stop embarrassing yourself.

Just like I told you this yesterday - you can no more inject cannabis than you could cheese.

Queen Victoria didn't inject cannabis. Monkeys don't ever inject cannabis like you claim.

Ask yourself Keep Darwen Green, how would monkeys have the capability to inject themselves with cannabis? Is there a monkey needle exchange programme out there for problem cannabis monkeys? Presumably it was trialled first in the Dominican Republic.

Or do you think monkeys have somehow developed their own intricate intravenous injection system - bypassing the wheel and other basic inventions and gone straight for something which can give them their sweet sweet cannabis?

I think I can say with some certainty that monkeys have never injected cannabis.

No-one has.

How would monkeys ever inject cannabis Keep Darwen Green?
I take it you havn't watched the ancient alien theory that is in its fifth series. They are showing it all this weekend on sky, I suggest you watch it or just google sumarians who have it written in ancient texts that the gods came down from the stars, that'd be me, encountered primitive ape like creatures that inhabited the planet, that'd be you, and altered their DNA in order to make them intelligent enough to do their bidding. So they came down, injected some monkeys with cannabis and hey presto human beings. Isn't it funny how in every religion from all parts of the globe, even though civilisations were isolated from one another all have the same story about gods coming down from above, messing with nature and bingo here we are, a race full of cannabis injectors.
Injection= a means by which, usually via a tube, to introduce a foreign object, usually chemical, into the blood stream. So every time you biff one up and smoke it, you are injecting yourself with cannabis you are just doing it via your lungs thats all. Jeez you're a bit slow aren't you? But you make me laugh a lot with your blind following of all things weed. IIIIIIRRREEEEEENE.
Smoking isn't the same thing as injecting. Look up their definitions in any dictionary. It's ludicrous to suggest they are one and the same thing.

Holy smoley though. Keep Darwen Green - your theories against cannabis rely totally on aliens and lizard people.

Brilliant.

Quick question - are you care in the community by any chance?
My god you don't give up do you, okay what about Charles Manson, he used to get out of his tree on ganja then rape young boys, he called it practising free love and, as he liked little girls just as much, wanted to share that special moment with all, men, women and children, even if they didn't want to, then he started some cult which used ganja and lsd and ended up killing celebrities, but what the heck, he was chilled out when he did it. Ice cold innit man. So from this we can deduce he had become a cold blooded reptile or lizard innard. You need to think more. Think of me as master, and you as grasshopper, you need to think more outside of the box. I thought that ganja was supposed to help you do that?
Taking a step back, how do you think all these psychopaths met and had the same ideals? The answer is they wern't like that, they were made, Ganja is whats known as a facillitator, it helps you do and understand things that ordinarily you wouldn't do or consider normal, which is where Manson and his psycho hippie chicks of death come in.
Anything else you need to know?

Cha'mone MF says...
2:34pm Thu 8 Mar 12

Jack Herer wrote:
Cha'mone MF wrote:
Cha'mone MF wrote:
Jack Herer wrote:
Cha'mone MF wrote:
Jack Herer wrote:
Sorry meant to add - relatively little harm as in, for instance, hospital admissions;

alcohol - 1,000,000+
cannabis - 750

Nothing is harmless - a tea cosy killed someone the other year - seriously.
And Brazil nuts, font forget Brazil nuts, they kill people in Brazil.
Ah Cha'mone MF - where have you been until now?

Did you look up Lester Grinspoon? He isn't an idiot. He is is Associate Professor Emeritus of Psychiatry at Harvard Medical School. He was senior psychiatrist at the Massachusetts Mental Health Center in Boston for 40 years.Dr. Grinspoon is a fellow of the American Association for the Advancement of Science and the American Psychiatric Association. He was founding editor of the Annual Review of Psychiatry and the Harvard Mental Health Letter. He was editor of the Harvard Mental Health Letter for fifteen years.

When he started out he thought like you did, but he was a man in a position to find out the actual facts. He has. He's no fool. He thinks cannabis will be the miracle medicine of the next era.
Good evening Jack!

I'm googling Lester as I type this. I'll get back to you.
Well old Lester certainly makes a reasonable point and I can see reason in his argument but he fails to see the wider implications to society as a whole if it were to be legalised across society. Has anybody entertained the notion
That the overwhelming majority might not want it legalising?
If it ever did happen then you have to accept that it would come at a price, it couldn't possibly be a smooth transition. It's also quite telling that, and I'll stand corrected on this, Holland is probably the only country that would be considered a modern and civilised one to have gone down this route And I'm pretty sure it will have problems associated with that. For instance I'm sure the drug driving offence rate is considerably higher in comparison to the UK.
It's not actually.

Holland has far less problems with cannabis than we do. Clearly prohibition isn't working on any level.

Holland has the highest average age of first use in Europe, i.e. youngsters in Holland first try cannabis later than everywhere else. Use of cannabis amongst Holland's young people is less than most other places as well.

It's far less than the UK and it's completely illegal here.

Go figure, with theories involving aliens and lizard people if possible.

Look - 300 years ago most people agreed with burning witches at the stake. It was no reason to keep that law forever. If the laws are unscientific and have a detrimental effect on society, then they need changing, regardless of the supreme ignorance of the general public's opinion on them.

Just like burning witches at the stake, our cannabis laws have no basis in science or reason.

Do we continue to live in ignorance forever? This isn't the dark ages - science and reason have held sway for a long time in all other areas of our life. Isn't it time they held sway with cannabis?

Scientifically there will only be positive benefits to society from cannabis legalisation. You do not have science on your side
CMF.
Scientifically there maybe but transferring the change into society would be a nightmare. Deducts the costs of the transition from the revenue gained in tax and it will hardly be worth it!

I see you use The Netherlands quite regularly as a comparison which I understand because of their stance on this issue, however our society is very much different to theirs, we are a totally different animal in this country especially the youth who will clearly see smoking cannabis as a new recreational pass time.

And on the subject of drug driving, statistics show that in the UK this is rapidly becoming more of a problem and every year claims more lives. The maths are simple, if cannabis is more readily available then more people will smoke it, and the more stupid amongst us will continue to drive whilst impaired, this will happen. So yes the Police will have thousands of man hours freed up by not having to deal with cannabis farms etc etc but these hours will then be diverted to dealing with the aftermath of people thinking their cars can fly!

Surely you must be able to see some detriment to society if this stuff is legalised, you can't possibly think it would change the world for the better?

cshaws says...
3:15pm Thu 8 Mar 12

Keep Darwen green - you are a f***'in genius. You really should write to the bbc and get your own show. What the hell do you take ? I want some. Better idea - join Mary Brett's organisation -you would destroy any credibility she has in about 3 seconds flat. Hahahahahah - genius, pure genius.

Jack Herer says...
4:55pm Thu 8 Mar 12

Cha'mone MF wrote:
Jack Herer wrote:
Cha'mone MF wrote:
Cha'mone MF wrote:
Jack Herer wrote:
Cha'mone MF wrote:
Jack Herer wrote:
Sorry meant to add - relatively little harm as in, for instance, hospital admissions;

alcohol - 1,000,000+
cannabis - 750

Nothing is harmless - a tea cosy killed someone the other year - seriously.
And Brazil nuts, font forget Brazil nuts, they kill people in Brazil.
Ah Cha'mone MF - where have you been until now?

Did you look up Lester Grinspoon? He isn't an idiot. He is is Associate Professor Emeritus of Psychiatry at Harvard Medical School. He was senior psychiatrist at the Massachusetts Mental Health Center in Boston for 40 years.Dr. Grinspoon is a fellow of the American Association for the Advancement of Science and the American Psychiatric Association. He was founding editor of the Annual Review of Psychiatry and the Harvard Mental Health Letter. He was editor of the Harvard Mental Health Letter for fifteen years.

When he started out he thought like you did, but he was a man in a position to find out the actual facts. He has. He's no fool. He thinks cannabis will be the miracle medicine of the next era.
Good evening Jack!

I'm googling Lester as I type this. I'll get back to you.
Well old Lester certainly makes a reasonable point and I can see reason in his argument but he fails to see the wider implications to society as a whole if it were to be legalised across society. Has anybody entertained the notion
That the overwhelming majority might not want it legalising?
If it ever did happen then you have to accept that it would come at a price, it couldn't possibly be a smooth transition. It's also quite telling that, and I'll stand corrected on this, Holland is probably the only country that would be considered a modern and civilised one to have gone down this route And I'm pretty sure it will have problems associated with that. For instance I'm sure the drug driving offence rate is considerably higher in comparison to the UK.
It's not actually.

Holland has far less problems with cannabis than we do. Clearly prohibition isn't working on any level.

Holland has the highest average age of first use in Europe, i.e. youngsters in Holland first try cannabis later than everywhere else. Use of cannabis amongst Holland's young people is less than most other places as well.

It's far less than the UK and it's completely illegal here.

Go figure, with theories involving aliens and lizard people if possible.

Look - 300 years ago most people agreed with burning witches at the stake. It was no reason to keep that law forever. If the laws are unscientific and have a detrimental effect on society, then they need changing, regardless of the supreme ignorance of the general public's opinion on them.

Just like burning witches at the stake, our cannabis laws have no basis in science or reason.

Do we continue to live in ignorance forever? This isn't the dark ages - science and reason have held sway for a long time in all other areas of our life. Isn't it time they held sway with cannabis?

Scientifically there will only be positive benefits to society from cannabis legalisation. You do not have science on your side
CMF.
Scientifically there maybe but transferring the change into society would be a nightmare. Deducts the costs of the transition from the revenue gained in tax and it will hardly be worth it!

I see you use The Netherlands quite regularly as a comparison which I understand because of their stance on this issue, however our society is very much different to theirs, we are a totally different animal in this country especially the youth who will clearly see smoking cannabis as a new recreational pass time.

And on the subject of drug driving, statistics show that in the UK this is rapidly becoming more of a problem and every year claims more lives. The maths are simple, if cannabis is more readily available then more people will smoke it, and the more stupid amongst us will continue to drive whilst impaired, this will happen. So yes the Police will have thousands of man hours freed up by not having to deal with cannabis farms etc etc but these hours will then be diverted to dealing with the aftermath of people thinking their cars can fly!

Surely you must be able to see some detriment to society if this stuff is legalised, you can't possibly think it would change the world for the better?
It would definitely change the world for the better - much much better. That's a scientific fact.

Look you are clearly never going to change your mind - you will never care that your viewpoint needs to backed up by aliens or lizard people or people thinking their cars will fly. It's all nonsense - it's all laughably unscientific.

You will always have a skewed view against cannabis - even stories about hard drugs you seem to want to proportion blame to cannabis instead. That's a dangerous game which leaves real victims, and shows you have no experience of the real world.

I know about hard drugs - I have lost 3 close friends to heroin. I personally know serious alcoholics. You are someone who seems to have had a very naive existence, and therefore you attribute cannabis to have more harm than it has , presumably because of solely what you read in the tabloids etc.

A few scare stories is no substitute for real life experience I'm afraid Cha'mone MF. Hard drugs really are dangerous and makes their users act in the most bizarrely deprived way. I've known many many cannabis smokers, and have never known any of them act even in an embarrassing way, which they would normally off alcohol.

You seem to have a completely closed mind Cha'mone MF. For that I can only pity you immensely. I would hate to go through life not being able to change my opinions, no matter how overwhelming and compelling the evidence against them.

You are the definition of a bigot unfortunately. I'm sorry about that but it's just true. The evidence is here for the world to see.

Jack Herer says...
5:05pm Thu 8 Mar 12

Keep Darwen Green wrote:
Jack Herer wrote:
Keep Darwen Green wrote:
Jack Herer wrote:
Keep Darwen Green, I have to tell you this to stop embarrassing yourself.

Just like I told you this yesterday - you can no more inject cannabis than you could cheese.

Queen Victoria didn't inject cannabis. Monkeys don't ever inject cannabis like you claim.

Ask yourself Keep Darwen Green, how would monkeys have the capability to inject themselves with cannabis? Is there a monkey needle exchange programme out there for problem cannabis monkeys? Presumably it was trialled first in the Dominican Republic.

Or do you think monkeys have somehow developed their own intricate intravenous injection system - bypassing the wheel and other basic inventions and gone straight for something which can give them their sweet sweet cannabis?

I think I can say with some certainty that monkeys have never injected cannabis.

No-one has.

How would monkeys ever inject cannabis Keep Darwen Green?
I take it you havn't watched the ancient alien theory that is in its fifth series. They are showing it all this weekend on sky, I suggest you watch it or just google sumarians who have it written in ancient texts that the gods came down from the stars, that'd be me, encountered primitive ape like creatures that inhabited the planet, that'd be you, and altered their DNA in order to make them intelligent enough to do their bidding. So they came down, injected some monkeys with cannabis and hey presto human beings. Isn't it funny how in every religion from all parts of the globe, even though civilisations were isolated from one another all have the same story about gods coming down from above, messing with nature and bingo here we are, a race full of cannabis injectors.
Injection= a means by which, usually via a tube, to introduce a foreign object, usually chemical, into the blood stream. So every time you biff one up and smoke it, you are injecting yourself with cannabis you are just doing it via your lungs thats all. Jeez you're a bit slow aren't you? But you make me laugh a lot with your blind following of all things weed. IIIIIIRRREEEEEENE.
Smoking isn't the same thing as injecting. Look up their definitions in any dictionary. It's ludicrous to suggest they are one and the same thing.

Holy smoley though. Keep Darwen Green - your theories against cannabis rely totally on aliens and lizard people.

Brilliant.

Quick question - are you care in the community by any chance?
My god you don't give up do you, okay what about Charles Manson, he used to get out of his tree on ganja then rape young boys, he called it practising free love and, as he liked little girls just as much, wanted to share that special moment with all, men, women and children, even if they didn't want to, then he started some cult which used ganja and lsd and ended up killing celebrities, but what the heck, he was chilled out when he did it. Ice cold innit man. So from this we can deduce he had become a cold blooded reptile or lizard innard. You need to think more. Think of me as master, and you as grasshopper, you need to think more outside of the box. I thought that ganja was supposed to help you do that?
Taking a step back, how do you think all these psychopaths met and had the same ideals? The answer is they wern't like that, they were made, Ganja is whats known as a facillitator, it helps you do and understand things that ordinarily you wouldn't do or consider normal, which is where Manson and his psycho hippie chicks of death come in.
Anything else you need to know?
Look you are clearly like Cha'mone MF in that you have very little experience of life, beyond what you have gained from internet pages.

Have you actually left your house for the last ten years? I genuinely can't believe you have if you think lizard people and aliens are regular sights.

DJ_Jaybee says...
6:33pm Thu 8 Mar 12

Keep Darwen Green wrote:
DJ_Jaybee wrote:
Simply living alters your DNA... thats how you pass on useful information on everything you've processed and experienced genetically to your offspring... that's an evolutionary process...
Have you just returned from the K-hole with that thought, mesmerising!
KDG - Rather than being mesmerised by imaginary k-holes you should learn about DNA and genetics.

http://learn.genetic
s.utah.edu/

Cha'mone MF says...
6:48pm Thu 8 Mar 12

Jack Herer wrote:
Cha'mone MF wrote:
Jack Herer wrote:
Cha'mone MF wrote:
Cha'mone MF wrote:
Jack Herer wrote:
Cha'mone MF wrote:
Jack Herer wrote:
Sorry meant to add - relatively little harm as in, for instance, hospital admissions;

alcohol - 1,000,000+
cannabis - 750

Nothing is harmless - a tea cosy killed someone the other year - seriously.
And Brazil nuts, font forget Brazil nuts, they kill people in Brazil.
Ah Cha'mone MF - where have you been until now?

Did you look up Lester Grinspoon? He isn't an idiot. He is is Associate Professor Emeritus of Psychiatry at Harvard Medical School. He was senior psychiatrist at the Massachusetts Mental Health Center in Boston for 40 years.Dr. Grinspoon is a fellow of the American Association for the Advancement of Science and the American Psychiatric Association. He was founding editor of the Annual Review of Psychiatry and the Harvard Mental Health Letter. He was editor of the Harvard Mental Health Letter for fifteen years.

When he started out he thought like you did, but he was a man in a position to find out the actual facts. He has. He's no fool. He thinks cannabis will be the miracle medicine of the next era.
Good evening Jack!

I'm googling Lester as I type this. I'll get back to you.
Well old Lester certainly makes a reasonable point and I can see reason in his argument but he fails to see the wider implications to society as a whole if it were to be legalised across society. Has anybody entertained the notion
That the overwhelming majority might not want it legalising?
If it ever did happen then you have to accept that it would come at a price, it couldn't possibly be a smooth transition. It's also quite telling that, and I'll stand corrected on this, Holland is probably the only country that would be considered a modern and civilised one to have gone down this route And I'm pretty sure it will have problems associated with that. For instance I'm sure the drug driving offence rate is considerably higher in comparison to the UK.
It's not actually.

Holland has far less problems with cannabis than we do. Clearly prohibition isn't working on any level.

Holland has the highest average age of first use in Europe, i.e. youngsters in Holland first try cannabis later than everywhere else. Use of cannabis amongst Holland's young people is less than most other places as well.

It's far less than the UK and it's completely illegal here.

Go figure, with theories involving aliens and lizard people if possible.

Look - 300 years ago most people agreed with burning witches at the stake. It was no reason to keep that law forever. If the laws are unscientific and have a detrimental effect on society, then they need changing, regardless of the supreme ignorance of the general public's opinion on them.

Just like burning witches at the stake, our cannabis laws have no basis in science or reason.

Do we continue to live in ignorance forever? This isn't the dark ages - science and reason have held sway for a long time in all other areas of our life. Isn't it time they held sway with cannabis?

Scientifically there will only be positive benefits to society from cannabis legalisation. You do not have science on your side
CMF.
Scientifically there maybe but transferring the change into society would be a nightmare. Deducts the costs of the transition from the revenue gained in tax and it will hardly be worth it!

I see you use The Netherlands quite regularly as a comparison which I understand because of their stance on this issue, however our society is very much different to theirs, we are a totally different animal in this country especially the youth who will clearly see smoking cannabis as a new recreational pass time.

And on the subject of drug driving, statistics show that in the UK this is rapidly becoming more of a problem and every year claims more lives. The maths are simple, if cannabis is more readily available then more people will smoke it, and the more stupid amongst us will continue to drive whilst impaired, this will happen. So yes the Police will have thousands of man hours freed up by not having to deal with cannabis farms etc etc but these hours will then be diverted to dealing with the aftermath of people thinking their cars can fly!

Surely you must be able to see some detriment to society if this stuff is legalised, you can't possibly think it would change the world for the better?
It would definitely change the world for the better - much much better. That's a scientific fact.

Look you are clearly never going to change your mind - you will never care that your viewpoint needs to backed up by aliens or lizard people or people thinking their cars will fly. It's all nonsense - it's all laughably unscientific.

You will always have a skewed view against cannabis - even stories about hard drugs you seem to want to proportion blame to cannabis instead. That's a dangerous game which leaves real victims, and shows you have no experience of the real world.

I know about hard drugs - I have lost 3 close friends to heroin. I personally know serious alcoholics. You are someone who seems to have had a very naive existence, and therefore you attribute cannabis to have more harm than it has , presumably because of solely what you read in the tabloids etc.

A few scare stories is no substitute for real life experience I'm afraid Cha'mone MF. Hard drugs really are dangerous and makes their users act in the most bizarrely deprived way. I've known many many cannabis smokers, and have never known any of them act even in an embarrassing way, which they would normally off alcohol.

You seem to have a completely closed mind Cha'mone MF. For that I can only pity you immensely. I would hate to go through life not being able to change my opinions, no matter how overwhelming and compelling the evidence against them.

You are the definition of a bigot unfortunately. I'm sorry about that but it's just true. The evidence is here for the world to see.
It's tragic that you have suffered such a loss and I'm sorry for that, but your assumptions about my experience couldn't be further from the truth. Without obviously divulging too much information I have nearly 20 years experience of dealing closely with people who are dependant on drugs I see on a regular basis what it does to people both Class A and cannabis. And based on this experience I can make an educated guess on how things would turn out should this stuff be legalised, and it has very little to do with science it involves the position of cannabis in criminality within our society.

It clearly frustrates you to some tune that people disagree with your views. Every credit to you for defending your view point so robustly but please don't refer to others as bigots because they don't agree with you. I certainly am not, I simply have my opinion based on my own experiences and not just what is in the media.

If such a time arrives when it is legalised and society turns into rainbows and unicorns (not lizards) then I'll be the first to come round to your gaff and stand corrected.

Keep Darwen Green says...
7:36pm Thu 8 Mar 12

DJ_Jaybee wrote:
Keep Darwen Green wrote:
DJ_Jaybee wrote:
Simply living alters your DNA... thats how you pass on useful information on everything you've processed and experienced genetically to your offspring... that's an evolutionary process...
Have you just returned from the K-hole with that thought, mesmerising!
KDG - Rather than being mesmerised by imaginary k-holes you should learn about DNA and genetics.

http://learn.genetic

s.utah.edu/
Sorry but K-hole isn't imaginary, I suggest you study what it actually means, it may take a while for you to comprehend what that small statement actually refers too. Unless of course you are a horse.

Keep Darwen Green says...
8:34pm Thu 8 Mar 12

Jack Herer wrote:
Keep Darwen Green wrote:
Jack Herer wrote:
Keep Darwen Green wrote:
Jack Herer wrote:
Keep Darwen Green, I have to tell you this to stop embarrassing yourself.

Just like I told you this yesterday - you can no more inject cannabis than you could cheese.

Queen Victoria didn't inject cannabis. Monkeys don't ever inject cannabis like you claim.

Ask yourself Keep Darwen Green, how would monkeys have the capability to inject themselves with cannabis? Is there a monkey needle exchange programme out there for problem cannabis monkeys? Presumably it was trialled first in the Dominican Republic.

Or do you think monkeys have somehow developed their own intricate intravenous injection system - bypassing the wheel and other basic inventions and gone straight for something which can give them their sweet sweet cannabis?

I think I can say with some certainty that monkeys have never injected cannabis.

No-one has.

How would monkeys ever inject cannabis Keep Darwen Green?
I take it you havn't watched the ancient alien theory that is in its fifth series. They are showing it all this weekend on sky, I suggest you watch it or just google sumarians who have it written in ancient texts that the gods came down from the stars, that'd be me, encountered primitive ape like creatures that inhabited the planet, that'd be you, and altered their DNA in order to make them intelligent enough to do their bidding. So they came down, injected some monkeys with cannabis and hey presto human beings. Isn't it funny how in every religion from all parts of the globe, even though civilisations were isolated from one another all have the same story about gods coming down from above, messing with nature and bingo here we are, a race full of cannabis injectors.
Injection= a means by which, usually via a tube, to introduce a foreign object, usually chemical, into the blood stream. So every time you biff one up and smoke it, you are injecting yourself with cannabis you are just doing it via your lungs thats all. Jeez you're a bit slow aren't you? But you make me laugh a lot with your blind following of all things weed. IIIIIIRRREEEEEENE.
Smoking isn't the same thing as injecting. Look up their definitions in any dictionary. It's ludicrous to suggest they are one and the same thing.

Holy smoley though. Keep Darwen Green - your theories against cannabis rely totally on aliens and lizard people.

Brilliant.

Quick question - are you care in the community by any chance?
My god you don't give up do you, okay what about Charles Manson, he used to get out of his tree on ganja then rape young boys, he called it practising free love and, as he liked little girls just as much, wanted to share that special moment with all, men, women and children, even if they didn't want to, then he started some cult which used ganja and lsd and ended up killing celebrities, but what the heck, he was chilled out when he did it. Ice cold innit man. So from this we can deduce he had become a cold blooded reptile or lizard innard. You need to think more. Think of me as master, and you as grasshopper, you need to think more outside of the box. I thought that ganja was supposed to help you do that?
Taking a step back, how do you think all these psychopaths met and had the same ideals? The answer is they wern't like that, they were made, Ganja is whats known as a facillitator, it helps you do and understand things that ordinarily you wouldn't do or consider normal, which is where Manson and his psycho hippie chicks of death come in.
Anything else you need to know?
Look you are clearly like Cha'mone MF in that you have very little experience of life, beyond what you have gained from internet pages.

Have you actually left your house for the last ten years? I genuinely can't believe you have if you think lizard people and aliens are regular sights.
My problem is I have too much life experience and know too much about too many things. You on the other hand appear to be blinkered and only move in one direction. You can think about that statement next time you fuse to the couch and are only shaken from your inner sanctum when you experience boulder burn on your chest. The difference between us being, while you are sat there thinking about it, I am actually doing it.
I'll elaborate, say we have two musicians and both play guitar. One stays straight and the other gets stoned, the stoned dude plays one chord and is mesmerised by its changing character how the fifth seems to resonate with the third, how the tonal pallette is intertwined, how the harmonic content of each interact with eachother yet give eachother space and let each one breathe as if seperate yet acting as one resonating and vibrating changing in tonal colour and then, fading out gently each note ending one at a time.
The straight guys says, your just playing one chord you idiot and proceeds to write an entire song whilst the stoner drools on himself and blends into the furniture as if he is molten lead. So the straight guy lives it and the stoner dreams it. Ever tried to get someone whose stoned to do anything, to move anywhere? Exactly you're living behind your eyes yet achieving nothing in the real world. My problem is there isn't enough time in the day for me to do everything I want to do, I'm just too busy to sit there thinking about it. You take that chemical that makes you a prisoner in your own skull space, I'm outa here.

Michael@ClitheroeSince58 says...
9:41pm Thu 8 Mar 12

Keep Darwen Green wrote:
Jack Herer wrote:
Keep Darwen Green wrote:
Jack Herer wrote:
Keep Darwen Green wrote:
Jack Herer wrote:
Keep Darwen Green, I have to tell you this to stop embarrassing yourself.

Just like I told you this yesterday - you can no more inject cannabis than you could cheese.

Queen Victoria didn't inject cannabis. Monkeys don't ever inject cannabis like you claim.

Ask yourself Keep Darwen Green, how would monkeys have the capability to inject themselves with cannabis? Is there a monkey needle exchange programme out there for problem cannabis monkeys? Presumably it was trialled first in the Dominican Republic.

Or do you think monkeys have somehow developed their own intricate intravenous injection system - bypassing the wheel and other basic inventions and gone straight for something which can give them their sweet sweet cannabis?

I think I can say with some certainty that monkeys have never injected cannabis.

No-one has.

How would monkeys ever inject cannabis Keep Darwen Green?
I take it you havn't watched the ancient alien theory that is in its fifth series. They are showing it all this weekend on sky, I suggest you watch it or just google sumarians who have it written in ancient texts that the gods came down from the stars, that'd be me, encountered primitive ape like creatures that inhabited the planet, that'd be you, and altered their DNA in order to make them intelligent enough to do their bidding. So they came down, injected some monkeys with cannabis and hey presto human beings. Isn't it funny how in every religion from all parts of the globe, even though civilisations were isolated from one another all have the same story about gods coming down from above, messing with nature and bingo here we are, a race full of cannabis injectors.
Injection= a means by which, usually via a tube, to introduce a foreign object, usually chemical, into the blood stream. So every time you biff one up and smoke it, you are injecting yourself with cannabis you are just doing it via your lungs thats all. Jeez you're a bit slow aren't you? But you make me laugh a lot with your blind following of all things weed. IIIIIIRRREEEEEENE.
Smoking isn't the same thing as injecting. Look up their definitions in any dictionary. It's ludicrous to suggest they are one and the same thing.

Holy smoley though. Keep Darwen Green - your theories against cannabis rely totally on aliens and lizard people.

Brilliant.

Quick question - are you care in the community by any chance?
My god you don't give up do you, okay what about Charles Manson, he used to get out of his tree on ganja then rape young boys, he called it practising free love and, as he liked little girls just as much, wanted to share that special moment with all, men, women and children, even if they didn't want to, then he started some cult which used ganja and lsd and ended up killing celebrities, but what the heck, he was chilled out when he did it. Ice cold innit man. So from this we can deduce he had become a cold blooded reptile or lizard innard. You need to think more. Think of me as master, and you as grasshopper, you need to think more outside of the box. I thought that ganja was supposed to help you do that?
Taking a step back, how do you think all these psychopaths met and had the same ideals? The answer is they wern't like that, they were made, Ganja is whats known as a facillitator, it helps you do and understand things that ordinarily you wouldn't do or consider normal, which is where Manson and his psycho hippie chicks of death come in.
Anything else you need to know?
Look you are clearly like Cha'mone MF in that you have very little experience of life, beyond what you have gained from internet pages.

Have you actually left your house for the last ten years? I genuinely can't believe you have if you think lizard people and aliens are regular sights.
My problem is I have too much life experience and know too much about too many things. You on the other hand appear to be blinkered and only move in one direction. You can think about that statement next time you fuse to the couch and are only shaken from your inner sanctum when you experience boulder burn on your chest. The difference between us being, while you are sat there thinking about it, I am actually doing it.
I'll elaborate, say we have two musicians and both play guitar. One stays straight and the other gets stoned, the stoned dude plays one chord and is mesmerised by its changing character how the fifth seems to resonate with the third, how the tonal pallette is intertwined, how the harmonic content of each interact with eachother yet give eachother space and let each one breathe as if seperate yet acting as one resonating and vibrating changing in tonal colour and then, fading out gently each note ending one at a time.
The straight guys says, your just playing one chord you idiot and proceeds to write an entire song whilst the stoner drools on himself and blends into the furniture as if he is molten lead. So the straight guy lives it and the stoner dreams it. Ever tried to get someone whose stoned to do anything, to move anywhere? Exactly you're living behind your eyes yet achieving nothing in the real world. My problem is there isn't enough time in the day for me to do everything I want to do, I'm just too busy to sit there thinking about it. You take that chemical that makes you a prisoner in your own skull space, I'm outa here.
At least leave the Lizard and the Monkey behind before you go :) oh and the Queens eggs lol

DJ_Jaybee says...
1:07am Fri 9 Mar 12

Keep Darwen Green wrote:
DJ_Jaybee wrote:
Keep Darwen Green wrote:
DJ_Jaybee wrote:
Simply living alters your DNA... thats how you pass on useful information on everything you've processed and experienced genetically to your offspring... that's an evolutionary process...
Have you just returned from the K-hole with that thought, mesmerising!
KDG - Rather than being mesmerised by imaginary k-holes you should learn about DNA and genetics.

http://learn.genetic


s.utah.edu/
Sorry but K-hole isn't imaginary, I suggest you study what it actually means, it may take a while for you to comprehend what that small statement actually refers too. Unless of course you are a horse.
KDG Of course I understand what you are referring to and Madonna will probably confirm they generally make better quality products for horses than the most of the chemistry that companies/doctors test on humans. I find it strange you are worried about cannabis altering DNA when potentially anything you do could and should alter it - including drinking tetley tea. I think maybe your DNA sequence is safer staying static then - as you don't seem to be able to accept any upgrades. Your computer says no.

Keep Darwen Green says...
10:09am Fri 9 Mar 12

DJ_Jaybee wrote:
Keep Darwen Green wrote:
DJ_Jaybee wrote:
Keep Darwen Green wrote:
DJ_Jaybee wrote:
Simply living alters your DNA... thats how you pass on useful information on everything you've processed and experienced genetically to your offspring... that's an evolutionary process...
Have you just returned from the K-hole with that thought, mesmerising!
KDG - Rather than being mesmerised by imaginary k-holes you should learn about DNA and genetics.

http://learn.genetic



s.utah.edu/
Sorry but K-hole isn't imaginary, I suggest you study what it actually means, it may take a while for you to comprehend what that small statement actually refers too. Unless of course you are a horse.
KDG Of course I understand what you are referring to and Madonna will probably confirm they generally make better quality products for horses than the most of the chemistry that companies/doctors test on humans. I find it strange you are worried about cannabis altering DNA when potentially anything you do could and should alter it - including drinking tetley tea. I think maybe your DNA sequence is safer staying static then - as you don't seem to be able to accept any upgrades. Your computer says no.
Last night I watched a movie. Hell with Jonny depp about Jack the ripper. His complex character is how I imagine you. Bonged out on illegal substances and returning from the K-hole with profound and mind bending enlightenment or in this case writing something on here the LT website only to get bonged out again and dissappear for another 24 hours emerging with another pearl of wisdom. Nah I'm just kidding you, it amazes me the effects of ketamine, I mean in extremeley high doses a human subject becomes that dissociated with themsleves they actually become incapable of thought and language, even not knowing that they are human any more and having out of body experience without dieing.
Anyway, if Madonna is a fellow K-hole visitor, I really do pity her experience the next time she visits the dentist. I'll elaborate on that one for you although if you are a fellow K-hole visitor you may have already found out.
When visiting the dentist and having any routine work done eg fillings or extractions, you will require a general as a local has no effect whatsoever, in other words you feel it all. You become immune to pain killing injections. You may even feel it under general as well, but your in no fit condition to tell anyone when your unconscious. So I hope madonna enjoys her next trip to the dentist. But remember my warning, its going to hurt like hell. I await your next bonged out awakening, its like waiting on Nostradamus. I've just altered my DNA with a cup of tetley.

Keep Darwen Green says...
12:26pm Fri 9 Mar 12

Just in case you don't see it elsewhere I'll put it here as well.

Hey, funny story for you, this morning a couple of God botherers knocked on my door, pushng a mag in my face and asking me if I believed in God. Yes I said but I have my own religion and am neither a christian nor muslim nor any other religion just mine. Thats strange they said, how does that work?
Well I think they actually thought they'd bumped into the daughter of lucifer, you should have seen their faces when I started going on about cannabis injections altering DNA turning people into lizards and that they walk among us, they started looking round for help. The point where I said that Jesus survived crucifiction and lived a long and peaceful life in india, and for the sake of it Jesus is now irrelevant and I will follow the Lord directly. But they said well how will you find the path to the lord if Jesus won't lead you? and I said I will talk to the gods direct I don't need an intermediary and next time they come back in their space ships we will be ready to communicate now their experiment is near completion and we have evolved enough to understand and move onto the next phase of DNA harvesting, I'm ready to begin, are you? Well you can imagine, it was like i'd sprouted horns, I think they could give anyone a run for there money in the 100mtrs at the Olympics. I hadn't even started they just legged it. Here i said come back, what about my mag???

DJ_Jaybee says...
12:52pm Fri 9 Mar 12

Dude I don't know why you are imagining people bonged out - maybe your visit to the k-hole has effected your perception of reality. Madonna's liking of K will definitely not have effected her ability to visit the dentist. So I guess you just come on here to post scare story nonsense - ok I get what you are about now - sorry at my original post I thought you were a serious contributor not just a troll.
ROFL.

Keep Darwen Green says...
1:10pm Fri 9 Mar 12

DJ_Jaybee wrote:
Dude I don't know why you are imagining people bonged out - maybe your visit to the k-hole has effected your perception of reality. Madonna's liking of K will definitely not have effected her ability to visit the dentist. So I guess you just come on here to post scare story nonsense - ok I get what you are about now - sorry at my original post I thought you were a serious contributor not just a troll.
ROFL.
I haven't visited the K-hole and if Madonna has a liking for it, I pity her next visit to the dentist as pain killing injections no longer work, fact, that is what I am saying and I'm not a troll either. I am a serious contributor. If you get bonged out all the time your offspring will be mongs. Bong = Mong you are devolving into a lower life form, its pretty easy to understand isn't it? Say after me. Bong = Mong, Cannabis is a killer.

DJ_Jaybee says...
6:13pm Fri 9 Mar 12

Don't worry about Madonna as any pain killers will definitely work as normal - your information is incorrect.

Also even if someone was "bonged out" 24/7 their offspring are more likely to be genetically programmed to be able to more even more effectively process cannabis through the system... not simply become a "mong" as you call it... also what I think you mean by someone who has had a "Bong" being a "Mong" is when someone is in an altered state and so completely detached from reality for a period of time - which is a similar effect is similar to sleeping - and as you conclude with "Cannabis is a killer" you seem like you are actually dreaming and also pretty detached from reality.

Are you sure you aren't on some sort of medication? Don't over do it on the Tetley in case your deoxyribonucleic acid gets hiccups.

Keep Darwen Green says...
9:22pm Fri 9 Mar 12

DJ_Jaybee wrote:
Don't worry about Madonna as any pain killers will definitely work as normal - your information is incorrect.

Also even if someone was "bonged out" 24/7 their offspring are more likely to be genetically programmed to be able to more even more effectively process cannabis through the system... not simply become a "mong" as you call it... also what I think you mean by someone who has had a "Bong" being a "Mong" is when someone is in an altered state and so completely detached from reality for a period of time - which is a similar effect is similar to sleeping - and as you conclude with "Cannabis is a killer" you seem like you are actually dreaming and also pretty detached from reality.

Are you sure you aren't on some sort of medication? Don't over do it on the Tetley in case your deoxyribonucleic acid gets hiccups.
No, fraid my information is correct, if you get monged out on K, dentist pain killing injections do not work, you need to do more research, I didn't say all painkillers I said dentist painkilling injections don't work and if you think they do then you a seriously misinformed as it is a very well documented symptom of over K exposure.
When I say the more bong the more mong I mean, as explained before you may have missed it, parents over exposure to cannabis can result in personality disorders developing in their children hence in the case of the Edlington child torturers, the psychologists and doctors involved think that the fliptops involved in torturing children may have been damaged through their parents over exposure to cannabis. This is an on going study in the USA. So I simplified it for all the DJ's out there, the more you bong, the more likely you are to raise a mong, was that simplified enough for you this time round.
I take it you are some form of wannabe DJ with a login like that so my suggestion to you is keep spinning other peoples music, you never know one day you may become real good at playing one record followed by another one, The mind boggles how you seem to be able to manage such mind taxing endevours. Its no wonder most can only manage one show per weekend it must be mentally exhausting for someone like yourself sliding faders up and down and sometimes speaking and listening at the same time. What talent.

Keep Darwen Green says...
9:57pm Fri 9 Mar 12

Okay DJ, I may have been unfair and just for you I will elaborate some more.
Go out and get yourself some pure K thats not been messed with, wait til you are due to go to the dentist and you require some remedial work say a filling or something that requires an injection, two weeks before the procedure is due load yourself into the K-hole. Go to the dentist 2 weeks later for your prcedure and guess what happens, thats right instead of having one injection and waiting for it to take effect, prepare yourself to have about five and then still be able to feel it. I guarantee that is what will happen. Maybe its because its the way in which K works is very similar to the injections the dentist uses and your body develops a tolerance but be prepared to experience plenty of pain. Just try it. And then when you find out I am correct, enjoy the moment.

enki jr says...
11:46pm Fri 9 Mar 12

5,120 cannabis factories with 345,000 plants worth £140million .... wow... reminds me of the propaganda
known as the holocaust ...what utter rubbish...they must think everyone has the i.q. of a dog (or lizard)
the whole establishment must be retarded from the top down!
as for altering dna ...more like repairing dna and its a good natural substance for most ails and pains, without any nasty s/fx like big pharmas toxic
paracetamol and aspirin. Mental health issues are non existent long term, and short term can cause linear amnesia (forgetting stuff at the time of intoxication) paranioa ...or so it may seem however its more of an acute awareness of everything (inc yourself),and of course the legendry munchies, which is a false positive side effect, however if one truly understands these things one can use the cannabis for spiritual
(yes even jesus was annointed with it http://news.bbc.co.u
k/1/hi/health/263318
7.stm

http://www.guardian.
co.uk/world/2003/jan
/06/science.religion
)

and creative purposes,a far cry from the dogshit the media hags print on behalf of thier corporate masters... I have this tendancy NOT to beleive anything scientists say especially the goons at uni..
text book pros still preach today that over-unity is impossible yet it has been proven a lie..not by the indoctrinated, but by ordinary people in thier little garden sheds, in an ever changing world the formula has to change with it or chaos ensues, evolution has
one rule...adapt or die, and die hard ye shall.
...Edlington child sadists in utero?... talk about scare tactics... any story with the fake A.D.H.D. illness is false..there is no such thing as adhd...The bigger sadists are the quacks who put these kids on the equivelent of cocaine ...sick human pondslime
the lot of em....
delinquent children come from uncaring parents who fail to install discipline and protocols and are left to thier own devices while thier parents indulge in anything but caring for them..fact.
its the same as the kallikak story propagated by eugenecists, these things may happen to a SPECIFIC family with a SPECIFIC situation/background , however you cannot place a specific prognosis into a GENERIC remedy slot...got it? Besides, i know of a family who are long term smokers and thier children are smarter than most,
one has b.a. and one is at uni taking b.a. non of them
are retarded or junkies, so you see i KNOW, from personal experience and monitoring others experiences
that the demonisation against this innocent feminine healer cannot be justified by anyone with a reasonable i.q.
as for beleivers of this non-sense..well thats why you are a dissonant alcoholic and your 9 yr old daughter is up the duff ... i choose the food of the gods over
corporate glob anytime. funny post though...thanks for the laugh... there are more dangerous drugs put in your food and drinking water...and that my friends is the absolute truth.

p.s. cannabis is lawful...the gov are not.
and the manson clans evil deeds were from the over excessive use of L.S.D. darwen green you are a silly little girl!

DJ_Jaybee says...
12:10am Sat 10 Mar 12

Yep. I can tell that your mind is boggled.

You should definitely calm down with all the bongs, K and visits to the dentist then - they really aren't agreeing with you. I think you should also probably avoid peanuts - or anything that's been near a peanut, shadows, repetitive beats, flashing lights, djs and also probably steer clear of weddings too in case you see faders, things spinning round and round, and don't stare at the disco ball.

You should definitely lay off the drugs though, I think they are really messing with your mind... I think there are phone numbers for you guys to ring to get help.

Keep Darwen Green says...
1:19am Sat 10 Mar 12

enki jr wrote:
5,120 cannabis factories with 345,000 plants worth £140million .... wow... reminds me of the propaganda
known as the holocaust ...what utter rubbish...they must think everyone has the i.q. of a dog (or lizard)
the whole establishment must be retarded from the top down!
as for altering dna ...more like repairing dna and its a good natural substance for most ails and pains, without any nasty s/fx like big pharmas toxic
paracetamol and aspirin. Mental health issues are non existent long term, and short term can cause linear amnesia (forgetting stuff at the time of intoxication) paranioa ...or so it may seem however its more of an acute awareness of everything (inc yourself),and of course the legendry munchies, which is a false positive side effect, however if one truly understands these things one can use the cannabis for spiritual
(yes even jesus was annointed with it http://news.bbc.co.u

k/1/hi/health/263318

7.stm

http://www.guardian.

co.uk/world/2003/jan

/06/science.religion

)

and creative purposes,a far cry from the dogshit the media hags print on behalf of thier corporate masters... I have this tendancy NOT to beleive anything scientists say especially the goons at uni..
text book pros still preach today that over-unity is impossible yet it has been proven a lie..not by the indoctrinated, but by ordinary people in thier little garden sheds, in an ever changing world the formula has to change with it or chaos ensues, evolution has
one rule...adapt or die, and die hard ye shall.
...Edlington child sadists in utero?... talk about scare tactics... any story with the fake A.D.H.D. illness is false..there is no such thing as adhd...The bigger sadists are the quacks who put these kids on the equivelent of cocaine ...sick human pondslime
the lot of em....
delinquent children come from uncaring parents who fail to install discipline and protocols and are left to thier own devices while thier parents indulge in anything but caring for them..fact.
its the same as the kallikak story propagated by eugenecists, these things may happen to a SPECIFIC family with a SPECIFIC situation/background , however you cannot place a specific prognosis into a GENERIC remedy slot...got it? Besides, i know of a family who are long term smokers and thier children are smarter than most,
one has b.a. and one is at uni taking b.a. non of them
are retarded or junkies, so you see i KNOW, from personal experience and monitoring others experiences
that the demonisation against this innocent feminine healer cannot be justified by anyone with a reasonable i.q.
as for beleivers of this non-sense..well thats why you are a dissonant alcoholic and your 9 yr old daughter is up the duff ... i choose the food of the gods over
corporate glob anytime. funny post though...thanks for the laugh... there are more dangerous drugs put in your food and drinking water...and that my friends is the absolute truth.

p.s. cannabis is lawful...the gov are not.
and the manson clans evil deeds were from the over excessive use of L.S.D. darwen green you are a silly little girl!
Hello Mr Manson, I have been told you get computer time and your weird psychotic rant proves you are still alive and well, it doesn't take long for someone to type the words Manson and Cannabis in a search engine and see what pops up, Another ferkin family member who finds himself with a machette in one hand in the tinned food section of some supermarket waiting for the marrowfats to arrive shouting that the holocaust never happened. Too predictable. You are obviously still a freak after all these years and your post certainly backs up what the doctors say about you. As mine does too. You don't need to reproduce to prove my theory, too much bong=mong, that'd be you, you are already there already. You have obviously been mainlining cannabis to become so deranged, does it make you foam at the mouth? because its certainly coming out of your ears :0)

Keep Darwen Green says...
1:25am Sat 10 Mar 12

DJ_Jaybee wrote:
Yep. I can tell that your mind is boggled.

You should definitely calm down with all the bongs, K and visits to the dentist then - they really aren't agreeing with you. I think you should also probably avoid peanuts - or anything that's been near a peanut, shadows, repetitive beats, flashing lights, djs and also probably steer clear of weddings too in case you see faders, things spinning round and round, and don't stare at the disco ball.

You should definitely lay off the drugs though, I think they are really messing with your mind... I think there are phone numbers for you guys to ring to get help.
I see I seem to have hit a bit of a raw nerve with the wanna be DJ talentless bstard jibe. Its because its too close for comfort, maybe you haven't mastered operating the faders and talking at the same time yet. You never know with your level of mental dexterity you may just get there in a decade or two.

DJ_Jaybee says...
1:56am Sat 10 Mar 12

Pretty much anyone can DJ easily nowadays if you are just going to play other people's stuff - many let software or equipment do all the tricky bit... so I reckon even you could probably do it if you weren't so paranoid about everything... and so easily mesmerised.

You even mention raw nerves so I really think you've really got some fixation with pain and dentists... did something happen when you were little?

Instead of getting all bonged up and upsetting yourself why don't you do some deep breathing or something and try to relax a bit... maybe a radox bath and a nice bit of aromatherapy might calm you down... maybe you just have an allergic reaction to your vitamin supplements or possibly think the government are spiking you????

Cheer up a bit dude and don't let space particles, your duff information, or wannabe DJs stop you from squeezing some enjoyment out of your time on our lovely planet.

Keep Darwen Green says...
11:07am Sat 10 Mar 12

DJ_Jaybee wrote:
Pretty much anyone can DJ easily nowadays if you are just going to play other people's stuff - many let software or equipment do all the tricky bit... so I reckon even you could probably do it if you weren't so paranoid about everything... and so easily mesmerised.

You even mention raw nerves so I really think you've really got some fixation with pain and dentists... did something happen when you were little?

Instead of getting all bonged up and upsetting yourself why don't you do some deep breathing or something and try to relax a bit... maybe a radox bath and a nice bit of aromatherapy might calm you down... maybe you just have an allergic reaction to your vitamin supplements or possibly think the government are spiking you????

Cheer up a bit dude and don't let space particles, your duff information, or wannabe DJs stop you from squeezing some enjoyment out of your time on our lovely planet.
See what I mean about raw nerve. Obviously you getting bonged up is limiting your disc changing ability. If as you say you are a DJ that doesn't play other peoples stuff, I don't believe you for a single moment, you would in fact be a musician instead, and if you were a musician you would consider being called a DJ a massive insult, just as I would. If someone ever called me a DJ. I would be absolutely spitting feathers to the point of wanting to kill. How dare anyone after all those years of learning to master instruments allow anyone to call them a DJ just shows how ferkin stupid anyone who aspires to become one really is. Its like calling a doctor a first aider.
Bonged up DJ's is there anything worse, I hope you don't breed I mean in a musical sense can you get any lower after getting so bonged out of your head, maybe your offsping will join an orchestra playing the triangle. Superb.

DJ_Jaybee says...
3:17pm Sat 10 Mar 12

" I would be absolutely spitting feathers to the point of wanting to kill." - haha you really do need to lay off the meds, or killerbongs or whatever you are on or hallucinating about - you do seem a bit paranoid and hyper-tense.

I am actually a music producer with a number of albums currently available on iTunes and also a guitarist / musician that doesn't get the urge to kill just because I know how to beatmix - and also can appreciate other artist's work enough to play it - and actually enjoy making people dance.

These are concepts are obviously foreign to you - you really do seem a little uptight have you tried the Radox and floaty candles yet?

I don't have a bong but I think you really need to stop fixating about them completely (is it a phallic thing you've got with it?) - and stop worrying about dentists... yes my son can play the triangle, and can probably play guitar a lot better than you.

Michael@ClitheroeSince58 says...
3:54pm Sat 10 Mar 12

Think its the time of the month for KDG

Keep Darwen Green says...
7:39pm Sat 10 Mar 12

DJ_Jaybee wrote:
" I would be absolutely spitting feathers to the point of wanting to kill." - haha you really do need to lay off the meds, or killerbongs or whatever you are on or hallucinating about - you do seem a bit paranoid and hyper-tense.

I am actually a music producer with a number of albums currently available on iTunes and also a guitarist / musician that doesn't get the urge to kill just because I know how to beatmix - and also can appreciate other artist's work enough to play it - and actually enjoy making people dance.

These are concepts are obviously foreign to you - you really do seem a little uptight have you tried the Radox and floaty candles yet?

I don't have a bong but I think you really need to stop fixating about them completely (is it a phallic thing you've got with it?) - and stop worrying about dentists... yes my son can play the triangle, and can probably play guitar a lot better than you.
I don't believe any aspiring record producer / musician would want to be called a ferkin DJ, they do weddings, engagements and the occasional birthday. It'd probably be akin to any self respecting songwriter wanting to go on the x factor or wanting to do jingles, it just wouldn't happen. I suggest you have got no further than cowboy chords and use something like fruity loops which is probably your level, all bonged out and fruit loopy. Stick to the triangle, for you its the way forward. X factor awaits your obvious talents.
Question, what is beatmix? isn't that mixing someone elses beats, must take talent. Slap a rex file in your host and just sync it to the master, oh how ferkin difficult, your parents must be pleased, don't make me yawn, most controllers have a tap tempo facility nowadays to make it even easier and red sound and others do automatic beat sync for those who cant even tap in time, so don't try and make it sound more difficult than it is, a chimpanzee could do it. Yawn see even thinking about how mundane it is, is making me tired, think I'll have a nap and do some beat syncing while i'm asleep.

DJ_Jaybee says...
9:32pm Sat 10 Mar 12

Yes as I say now it's possible to do it easily if you just want to mix tunes... the wonders of modern technology... so now should be one less thing for you to get all stressed out at.

Try doing it with some music you like and maybe you can stay awake...

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