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50 East Lancashire men warned over child grooming

MORE than 50 men have been issued with ‘abduction notices’ to stop them approaching children in East Lancashire.

Police said the notices were used as a ‘shot across the bows’ by officers when there was evidence of concerning behaviour by potential abusers.

They are given when behaviour is seen to be a significant risk but falls short of a prosecution.

It stays on the offender’s police record in case of future reports.

The notices are handed to people who are found with a ‘potential victim’, and can ban them approaching any child. For example, a letter can warn the person not to stop and talk to under-age children in his car.

Officers said they had also ‘protected’ almost 200 youngsters from child sexual exploitation during the past six months.

Specialist team Engage in Blackburn with Darwen, Hyndburn and Ribble Valley, has identified 134 victims and Freedom in Burnley, Pendle and Rossendale, has helped 61 victims.

The team has also identified 44 individuals involved in sexual exploitation of which 32 were white, 11 Asian and 1 other.

Of those, 20 have been arrested, five charged and 21 abduction notices issued.

Pennine’s Freedom team, which has dedicated police, children’s services and a health nurse, has identified 13 individuals, of whom five are white and eight asian.

They have made 10 arrests leading to one charge and issued 33 abduction notices.

Public Protection Superintendent Ian Critchley said there had been an increase in referrals and victims in East Lancashire and the county as a whole because of the work done in schools and communities to encourage potential victims to come forward.

He said the priority is to arrest offenders of all types of ‘abhorrent’ child abuse, whether street grooming, online or within the family.

He added that abduction notices were a ‘valuable’ response to prevent and target child sexual exploitation.

Assistant Chief Constable Andy Rhodes said: “Lancashire Constabulary has worked closely with other agencies over the past six years to tackle the issue of child sexual exploitation.

"We recognised that there was an issue in relation to on-street grooming of young people by adults who have power over them by virtue of their age, gender, intellect or status.”

Jack Straw, Blackburn MP, said: “These figures show what a great job Lancashire police is doing and the effectiveness of the Engage programme.

"The breakdown by ethnicity is consistent with what I’ve said all along, that the majority of perpetrators of this type of crime are white.

"But I maintain that there is an issue and a specific problem within some areas of the Pakistani community.”

Burnley MP Gordon Birtwistle said: “I think it is shocking that in 2011 so many of these types of offences go on.

"That number is staggeringly high and I hope the authorities do everything in their power to clamp down on this sort of thing.”

Comments(45)

ste.g says...
9:06pm Tue 12 Apr 11

names and places please

nelson people says...
9:06pm Tue 12 Apr 11

3 (THREE TIMES) more WHITE offenders than ASIAN!
That is a FACT.
For the racist right wing posters on here read again and again.......

useyourhead says...
9:08pm Tue 12 Apr 11

It is great that there is this scheme but it is still expecting some one else to watch out for your kids. More parents need to know where their kids are and who they are with!

happycyclist says...
10:33pm Tue 12 Apr 11

nelson people wrote:
3 (THREE TIMES) more WHITE offenders than ASIAN!
That is a FACT.
For the racist right wing posters on here read again and again.......
That doesn't sound too good when you put it as percentages of the respective populations.

brfcianbrfc says...
10:50pm Tue 12 Apr 11

cut off there ( male chickens ) and shove them up their own ( kind of donkey ) and i did that without swearing.

roverspal says...
12:27am Wed 13 Apr 11

happycyclist wrote:
nelson people wrote:
3 (THREE TIMES) more WHITE offenders than ASIAN!
That is a FACT.
For the racist right wing posters on here read again and again.......
That doesn't sound too good when you put it as percentages of the respective populations.
I want to defend what is law of the land, but my belief is most of the Asians who have been cautioned are mainly the gangs of youths chasing young impressionable girls.. some of these girls are under age and the men SHOULD BE PUNISHED.. but I would like to know if this is true..
For I rarely read about a sick scum Asian chasing a twelve year old or younger.. I am not defending them in any way,BUT just making a point that the Asians are basically wrong but not the paedophiles who chase women who have not even reached the pmt stages of her young life..YES there must almost certainly be the odd few and
I WOULD LIKE THEM NAMED..

ChiRho says...
12:49am Wed 13 Apr 11

nelson people wrote:
3 (THREE TIMES) more WHITE offenders than ASIAN!
That is a FACT.
For the racist right wing posters on here read again and again.......
56 total, 37 white, 19 asian. Looks like Jack was right...

caballo says...
8:28am Wed 13 Apr 11

roverspal wrote:
happycyclist wrote:
nelson people wrote: 3 (THREE TIMES) more WHITE offenders than ASIAN! That is a FACT. For the racist right wing posters on here read again and again.......
That doesn't sound too good when you put it as percentages of the respective populations.
I want to defend what is law of the land, but my belief is most of the Asians who have been cautioned are mainly the gangs of youths chasing young impressionable girls.. some of these girls are under age and the men SHOULD BE PUNISHED.. but I would like to know if this is true.. For I rarely read about a sick scum Asian chasing a twelve year old or younger.. I am not defending them in any way,BUT just making a point that the Asians are basically wrong but not the paedophiles who chase women who have not even reached the pmt stages of her young life..YES there must almost certainly be the odd few and I WOULD LIKE THEM NAMED..
roverspal,
It's all paedophillia, stop trying to blur the line. Your attempts to in some way dilute your kinsfolks responsibilty disgusts me.

Booo says...
8:30am Wed 13 Apr 11

Does it matter what colour they are? Belive me it does not because I have been there.

happycyclist says...
8:33am Wed 13 Apr 11

ChiRho wrote:
nelson people wrote:
3 (THREE TIMES) more WHITE offenders than ASIAN!
That is a FACT.
For the racist right wing posters on here read again and again.......
56 total, 37 white, 19 asian. Looks like Jack was right...
You need to compare what percentage 37 is of the white population, with what percentage 19 is of the Asian population for these numbers to make any sense in the context of racial incidence.

jack daniels says...
9:52am Wed 13 Apr 11

nelson people wrote:
3 (THREE TIMES) more WHITE offenders than ASIAN! That is a FACT. For the racist right wing posters on here read again and again.......
saying that Blackburn is the highest ratio of white to asian and that is at about 25% - then 19 out of 50 is not good is it.

Lifeinthemix says...
10:12am Wed 13 Apr 11

telegraph I is not impressed that you protect the sicko's as they present this script removing the post which as you know well is 100% correct in its analysis
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disgusting behaviour all round
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come visit the UK....the land of the sick people

Lifeinthemix says...
10:26am Wed 13 Apr 11

think in terms of the fact we have in this game the political, judicial, media and constabulary forming this game to frighten people in the first instance in pulling together this grouping, placing them in our area, then taking great pleasure in telling us all of this game of predator V public, all the while their statutes protect the predator against the natural reactions of the people to these types of sicko's.
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sexual deviancy is nothing new, but before the rise of the statute hell they were naturally sidelined in the towns and cities by the people through various means, today they are sort of collected by the state to then use against the people who pay their salary

Gaz M says...
10:51am Wed 13 Apr 11

Does it matter what colour these animals are ! NAME AND SHAME THEM.

Temporarily overseas says...
11:43am Wed 13 Apr 11

There is a Darwen teenager who was in court last November for webcam s*x acts against underage girls he met thru Facebook several years ago. He was then put on bail awaiting a crown court appearance. It seems he is still awaiting trial and, in the meantime, he is still putting crude and obscene messages on his public wall of Facebook. Why doesn’t Facebook ban him? I have a young relative who is a Facebook ‘Friend’ of the guy so that’s why I am concerned he’s still on Facebook. My young relative is already on the road to nowhere in life.

Lifeinthemix says...
12:38pm Wed 13 Apr 11

simple answer...because this report is part of a game. Hitler used this to perfection to create all out distrust amongst the masses, King James and the church used the same strategy with witches. It creates bands of idiots who are then used by the elites to attack those the same elites are afraid of in accusing anyone they please as a witch or today a paedophile, this of course after they have created the arena for such to have the desired effect...this report is part of that arena formation..EDL watch out as you are to become their shock troops in this regard.
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Paedophilia is the norm for the elites, therefore those who enter this category are very well protected and the reason he is still on facebook

badboy says...
2:25pm Wed 13 Apr 11

a list of names would be good

JayneC says...
2:53pm Wed 13 Apr 11

What this says to me, is that the police are still not dealing with the Asian Exploitation of the girls. Community cohesion? Political Correctness? Incompetence? The problem was identified over 20 years ago, and still no real response to the issue. Yes, exploitation exists in many communities, but it is disproportionately higher in the Pakistani Muslim community. A fact still ignored. A warning letter? Publish the names, all child abusers must be name for the protection of the children.

Lifeinthemix says...
3:37pm Wed 13 Apr 11

JayneC wrote:
What this says to me, is that the police are still not dealing with the Asian Exploitation of the girls. Community cohesion? Political Correctness? Incompetence? The problem was identified over 20 years ago, and still no real response to the issue. Yes, exploitation exists in many communities, but it is disproportionately higher in the Pakistani Muslim community. A fact still ignored. A warning letter? Publish the names, all child abusers must be name for the protection of the children.
then you get witch hunts......aim your energy at the statutes which prevent people from defending their own....

retired one says...
4:18pm Wed 13 Apr 11

They should ALL be named and shamed.

maj3091 says...
4:46pm Wed 13 Apr 11

Would have been better had the title read "50 East Lancashire men shot over child grooming"

Booo says...
5:07pm Wed 13 Apr 11

nelson people wrote:
3 (THREE TIMES) more WHITE offenders than ASIAN!
That is a FACT.
For the racist right wing posters on here read again and again.......
You still do not get it..... It does not matter what colour an offender is. Do you really think Sara Payne thought as least he was white do you really think Jamie Bulgers Mum thought at least they where white do you really think the man who abused me for 5 years I sit here today and think "Well at least he was white" No i do not. We should all stand together and look after our children. These people should be named and shamed all of them but nots lets be racists because this is not what its all about. Its about protecting our children from these horrific people

Booo says...
5:17pm Wed 13 Apr 11

THREE TIMES) more WHITE offenders than ASIAN!
That is a FACT.
For the racist right wing posters on here read again and again


Sorry pls look at my comment after this for my response

Markr says...
5:21pm Wed 13 Apr 11

Hang on nelson people, look at the areas that the large number of white offenders is from(Ribble Valley) and you will see that they are predominantly white areas, take into account the places that have a large Pakistani (Not Asian) population and publish them seperatly (Burnley, Nelson etc) and im sure the true figures would show, just that the Telegraph glosses over the problems they are causing in our society the truth hurts doesnt it loony leftys.
nelson people your town has more pakistani child grooming than whites.
But im sure theres one thig we do agree with, they should be punished more than just a letter.
Makes you wonder how many more people (white or other) are at it.

Smooth says...
6:03pm Wed 13 Apr 11

What the hell has race go to do with this issue - bottom line you ignorant and people of little education is that we have amongst us individuals who are a danger to young children and we all want the cops to make sure these scums are put away in prison.

As for the whole race angle - grow up little brains and get a reality check - a criminal does not discriminate and we should concentrate on the issue rather than on mediocrity.

Booo says...
6:24pm Wed 13 Apr 11

Smooth wrote:
What the hell has race go to do with this issue - bottom line you ignorant and people of little education is that we have amongst us individuals who are a danger to young children and we all want the cops to make sure these scums are put away in prison. As for the whole race angle - grow up little brains and get a reality check - a criminal does not discriminate and we should concentrate on the issue rather than on mediocrity.
Thankyou Smooth from Blackburn at last a sensible comment. From one who has been abused. As I said earlier it would not make a difference what colour what he or she was, it will still haunt me 4 ever.

berniep says...
6:34pm Wed 13 Apr 11

I dont care what colour they are they should be named & shamed.

bburngal says...
6:53pm Wed 13 Apr 11

useyourhead wrote:
It is great that there is this scheme but it is still expecting some one else to watch out for your kids. More parents need to know where their kids are and who they are with!
exactly

Cheese gnome says...
6:54pm Wed 13 Apr 11

berniep wrote:
I dont care what colour they are they should be named & shamed.
Berniep you speak the truth again!
Would be intersting to know where the lancashire telegraph get their figures from though?

Booo says...
7:14pm Wed 13 Apr 11

berniep wrote:
I dont care what colour they are they should be named & shamed.
Berniep: I totally agree, thankyou another sensible comment

Booo says...
7:25pm Wed 13 Apr 11

cheesse gnome. So if you have a son or daughter would it be better if they were abused by black or white?t Get a life

starling77 says...
8:09pm Wed 13 Apr 11

The point most people are missing here is MOTIVATION. "Normal" paedos are usually loners who prey on their own ethnic group. These muslim grooming gangs we hear about now are motivated by sex and money from selling them on to other paedos. They target (multiple) young white children because they believe these girls, being non-muslim are inferior. "Easy meat" as Jack Straw said. In this regard, people are comparing apples with oranges.

roverspal says...
8:10pm Wed 13 Apr 11

JayneC wrote:
What this says to me, is that the police are still not dealing with the Asian Exploitation of the girls. Community cohesion? Political Correctness? Incompetence? The problem was identified over 20 years ago, and still no real response to the issue. Yes, exploitation exists in many communities, but it is disproportionately higher in the Pakistani Muslim community. A fact still ignored. A warning letter? Publish the names, all child abusers must be name for the protection of the children.
twenty four years ago I left school,and in the UK we have the highest teenage pregnancies, two white girls left school early becoming pregnant to white boys..girls in this country abuse the system by getting pregnant so they can get a flat for themselves..
Blaming Asian youths is NOT going to solve a problem. they are NOT the only boys wanting to loose their virginity.. The real problems are the Gary Glitters.. David Higgs..Christopher Williams, 49..Alan Joseph Healey, 47 Ronald Boothby, 59 for me these are the real paedophiles..
I don't have much of a problem with young men chasing young teenage women..WHATEVER COLOUR OF SKIN..
I do have a problem with old men chasing teenage women and men or chasing boys these are the real sicko's to me.. whether you agree or not is up to interpretation..

Booo says...
8:41pm Wed 13 Apr 11

roverspal,blackburn.

Totally agree. This has got to be a totally racist debate thanks to the Lancs eve telergraph.

Cheese gnome says...
8:45pm Wed 13 Apr 11

Booo wrote:
cheesse gnome. So if you have a son or daughter would it be better if they were abused by black or white?t Get a life
I have said on many stories..
It doesnt matter if your black, white, asian, chinese or anything. Peados are peados and should be locked up with the key thrown away. My point is about the LET getting their figures wrong.
Also an abduction order wont do much, how about watching them 24/7 if they think they are a harm to children.

Mr-Reasonable says...
8:45pm Wed 13 Apr 11

RoversPal. Young men chasing what are in the Laws eyes children is wrong.
Having said that loads of young muslim girls sleep around they just keep it more of a secret from there families because the consequences could be quite severe.
Watch the Film Love Hate..... all set ib Blackburn and quite a true portayel of our town.

roverspal says...
9:44pm Wed 13 Apr 11

Mr-Reasonable wrote:
RoversPal. Young men chasing what are in the Laws eyes children is wrong.
Having said that loads of young muslim girls sleep around they just keep it more of a secret from there families because the consequences could be quite severe.
Watch the Film Love Hate..... all set ib Blackburn and quite a true portayel of our town.
THAT IS THE POINT ... YOUNG MEN AND YOUNG WOMEN...
It bothers me when its either old men chasing young women or chasing boys for me that is sick.. I was a teenager once.. now a lot older I don't carry on chasing schoolgirls..and the real sickos even chase boys..

Mr-Reasonable says...
10:08pm Wed 13 Apr 11

But if a girl is under 16 she is a child not a young woman, if a guy is 18 he is an adult. Most of the girls are under 16 hence children.
An older man or woman can be very good in a relationship, age isnt the issue its a problem when it is adult on child.

I would recomend all to watch the film I mentioned earlier it addresses a lot of these issues in a tasteful and educated way.

ste.g says...
10:12pm Wed 13 Apr 11

the point is neither white,asian,chinese or any other nationality or colour matters.what matters is we all despise these monsters and we should all be standing shoulder to shoulder in fighting them for the sake of all our children.

roverspal says...
11:00pm Wed 13 Apr 11

Mr-Reasonable wrote:
But if a girl is under 16 she is a child not a young woman, if a guy is 18 he is an adult. Most of the girls are under 16 hence children.
An older man or woman can be very good in a relationship, age isnt the issue its a problem when it is adult on child.

I would recomend all to watch the film I mentioned earlier it addresses a lot of these issues in a tasteful and educated way.
What about the under age girls that go to nightclubs and find a male partner for the night? Intentionally getting pregnant so the council are forced to give her accommodation, surely this is NOT the young men's fault??
I knew too many of my fifteen year old female friends put a ton of make up on and look over 16.. and night club owners don't mind women on their property as they are less trouble..
the issue here is family and the way a woman is brought up.. and her parents beliefs of what is right and what is wrong..
I REMEMBER BILL WYMAN AND MANDY SMITH SHE WAS THIRTEEN AND HE WAS A ROLLING STONE MUSICIAN.. HE STARTED DATING HER AT THAT TENDER AGE AND HE WAS FOURTY SEVEN.. HER MUM EVEN ENCOURAGED HER.. BUT THEY WERE HAPPY.. AND HE DIDN'T HAVE A TRACK RECORD OF CHASING CHILDREN OR PEOPLE OF THE SAME GENDER..

Cheese gnome says...
8:37am Thu 14 Apr 11

roverspal wrote:
Mr-Reasonable wrote: But if a girl is under 16 she is a child not a young woman, if a guy is 18 he is an adult. Most of the girls are under 16 hence children. An older man or woman can be very good in a relationship, age isnt the issue its a problem when it is adult on child. I would recomend all to watch the film I mentioned earlier it addresses a lot of these issues in a tasteful and educated way.
What about the under age girls that go to nightclubs and find a male partner for the night? Intentionally getting pregnant so the council are forced to give her accommodation, surely this is NOT the young men's fault?? I knew too many of my fifteen year old female friends put a ton of make up on and look over 16.. and night club owners don't mind women on their property as they are less trouble.. the issue here is family and the way a woman is brought up.. and her parents beliefs of what is right and what is wrong.. I REMEMBER BILL WYMAN AND MANDY SMITH SHE WAS THIRTEEN AND HE WAS A ROLLING STONE MUSICIAN.. HE STARTED DATING HER AT THAT TENDER AGE AND HE WAS FOURTY SEVEN.. HER MUM EVEN ENCOURAGED HER.. BUT THEY WERE HAPPY.. AND HE DIDN'T HAVE A TRACK RECORD OF CHASING CHILDREN OR PEOPLE OF THE SAME GENDER..
This sort of comment winds me up!
Not every young girl wants to get pregnant to get a council house. Life doesn't work like that. For one there is a massive shortage in housing.
As for a young girl getting pregnant is not the mans fault, erm, it takes two to tango and there is such a thing as condoms in the modern age, men can and should take responsibility as well.
We can all take the "i blame the parents" line BUT as centuries have shown, you can have the best upbringing, have values instilled on you from a young age and still turn out to be a little so n so. Same goes for the other side, you can come from a broken family with no rules and no values instilled and still know right from wrong and make good of your life.
You judge people way too many times.

jack daniels says...
9:32am Thu 14 Apr 11

roverspal wrote:
Mr-Reasonable wrote: But if a girl is under 16 she is a child not a young woman, if a guy is 18 he is an adult. Most of the girls are under 16 hence children. An older man or woman can be very good in a relationship, age isnt the issue its a problem when it is adult on child. I would recomend all to watch the film I mentioned earlier it addresses a lot of these issues in a tasteful and educated way.
What about the under age girls that go to nightclubs and find a male partner for the night? Intentionally getting pregnant so the council are forced to give her accommodation, surely this is NOT the young men's fault?? I knew too many of my fifteen year old female friends put a ton of make up on and look over 16.. and night club owners don't mind women on their property as they are less trouble.. the issue here is family and the way a woman is brought up.. and her parents beliefs of what is right and what is wrong.. I REMEMBER BILL WYMAN AND MANDY SMITH SHE WAS THIRTEEN AND HE WAS A ROLLING STONE MUSICIAN.. HE STARTED DATING HER AT THAT TENDER AGE AND HE WAS FOURTY SEVEN.. HER MUM EVEN ENCOURAGED HER.. BUT THEY WERE HAPPY.. AND HE DIDN'T HAVE A TRACK RECORD OF CHASING CHILDREN OR PEOPLE OF THE SAME GENDER..
Good old racistpal™ and his stereo tying of the white working class. Don’t forget that many of these girls can be ‘Gillick competent’ which means that they can make these decisions about what they do.

Maybe you should think about living somewhere that incorporates your high moral code?

Proud-Mummy says...
2:16am Fri 15 Apr 11

I'm not seeing how "telling them" that they can't talk to children is helping? .. We all know its discusting to touch a child, but they still think its ok .. Print it on their foreheads & i guarantee peadophillia is alot less common! .. This country & its "justice system" makes me laugh! .. If their that bad that they have to be told they are not allowed to communicate with children why are they still roaming the streets? .. It doesn't matter what colour they are or what their background is! .. NOTHING can explain why they think its ok to do such a horrible thing to an innocent child! .. It makes me physically sick that the people we are supposed to trust "keep us safe" are the people that let us down most! .. As far as i can see parents should have the right to know who is an animal & who isn't .. I can't understand why the "justice system" would rather protect these CREATURES than the children they are going to attack! .. I don't care what colour they are their all sick! .. Its not about race! Its about protecting our children & future children & i personally have no idea why the race of these men is even mentioned .. Personally i think it seems like a cheap shot at white people and another reason to spark a racist war! .. The funniest part about it is that you'd probably spend more time in prison on racist charges than you would for peadophillia .. The british justice system sure knows how to prioritise! .. PHAH! .. Seriously why am i paying tax to support this stupidity .. They need their heads banging together! .. NAME the scumbags and let us deal with it if you're not going to!

timeforcommonsense says...
9:20pm Fri 15 Apr 11

nelson people wrote:
3 (THREE TIMES) more WHITE offenders than ASIAN! That is a FACT. For the racist right wing posters on here read again and again.......
The fact is that scum is scum, we could argue that people are saying oh 37 white to 19 Asian and we could argue that for a race/religion that only makes up 2-5% of our population they do in fact make up 35% of the number warned and we could argue that the figures just show that we have enough scum of our own without importing more criminal elements but who will listen? You can not cure a peadophile, you can not rehabilitate a peadophile so what do we do? We let them off with warnings and non custodial sentences. They are nothing but a drain on society like all the other criminal scum be they indigenous to this country or immigrant.

timeforcommonsense says...
11:41pm Sat 16 Apr 11

Wow didn't take long for the telegraph propaganda machine to kick in and dissapear some very factual posts. It's disgusting, call yourselves journalists. You are a disgrace. Just because you delete it doesn't mean it isn't true. It just means you have your heads in the sand whilst everything deteriorates around you.

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