Jack Straw sex grooming comments: the reaction (From Lancashire Telegraph)

Well done Kate Hollern for getting absolutely wrong yet again. Jack mentioned that it was part of a cultural issue, because it is part of a cultural issue. By shouting him down you are brushing the whole problem under the carpet, but this is how you play baby politics anyway.

Stop brown nosing for votes and grow a pair!

It's interesting how many different interpretations of Jack Straw's interviews there are. The message I took from his interview is that Pakistani heritage males with low education, and thus no hope of a well paid job, were most likely to indulge in trading girls. What is most abhorrent in this affair is that young boys meet the girls in communal meeting places and once friendly pass them onto older males who groom them and then pass them onto even older males.

Coun Hussain, an experienced youth worker, said he was aware of young Asian women also being groomed by older men and of similar cases in Burnley and Padiham involving white men.
What a load of ba**s, he is just saying this to try to spread the blame, where are your facts Coun Hussain, have these Asian girls reported this to the police? of course they haven't because it never happened.

Jack Straw,has come out and stated the truth. He has not singles out any particular race and left it at that. Yes white people do commit these sort of crimes and these cases are highlighted in the press.
All he has said is that there are certain gangs from a different culture who also prey on youngsters. A promlem that has been going on for many years.
Its known that Muslem parents,protect their daughters,and that white girls do not receive the same amount of protection from their parents,thus the statement easy meat.
Some Muslem leaders accept that men from their religion are committing these offences,and all credit to them.
The leader of Blackburn Council,dosn't live in the real world,and hasn't got a clue what is going on but chooses to comment.
I am not a Labour supporter,as I have stated before,but Jack Straw has got this one right.
Comments have been made on the previous report stating that the authoreties couldn't act when this problem first came to light. I would disagree,they have taken the easy option stating we can't do anything unless the girls complain.
They knew these offences were being committed many years ago,they should have worked together,collated the evidence and brought these people to book.

if this is not a problem why was a special body set up several years ago to tackle this crime in Blackburn? We all know it goes on,we also see that once again the pakistani elders are in denial. Face up to the facts and sort this problem out....experts at digging holes for yourselves are'nt you?

Any young male is predominantly interested in sex, regardless of colour.
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if the girls from his own religion or cultural background have been brought up to behave modestly he will obviously seek out the path of least resistance, perhaps we as parents of these girls should look at ourselves as well as pointing fingers at others.
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that said, passing them on to older blokes and deliberately getting them hooked on drugs to make them controllable moves the problem into a much more abhorrent category of behaviour that any community should want to stamp out.

Pedophiles are pedophiles regardless of race, creed or colour. To blame the girls; underage and who are therefore the victims themselves is in itself abominable. The only persons capable of being blamed here, and rightly so would be the callous and uncaring offenders; deliquent parents of the victims; people who were supposed to take action when advised of the crimes and above all; cowardly politicians more concerned with the comfort of their backsides on their parliamantery seat than serving the needs of their constituents.

Any person who believes that their lifestyle or religious persuasion entitles them to feel superior to any other human being due to their culture, lifestyle or religion is at the lower end of the scale of humanity. If they further believe that they may behave as despicably as they wish to others who live a different lifestyle then they are, as Mohammed Shafique states, criminals; no more and no less.

As child convicted child sex offenders one assumes that they will find they have made a very heavy road for their own backs.

webber26 wrote:
How can u possibly deport someone who was born here and is therefore british, studied here paid taxes etc????? Whilst I have had first hand experience of this kind of thing i do not agree with alot of what is being said. I was born in Stoneyholme Burnley now 98 %ethnic area. My father always warned me about young asian me and their lack of respect for young white women. Funny thing is I did not xperience such filth until I moved to Accrington. At 11 years old walking home from my 3rd dday at high school a car pulled up with an asian man telling me he ran an off license and he could give me free cigs and booze, I was petrified and ran home. I called the police and he was charged with a public order offence. Even after this experience I am still inclined to side with Imran and Jatt. Where are the parents carers etc of these girls? Like it or not booze induced pram pushing Britain is the way it is headed. Why do we have so many 15 year pregnant heroin addicted little trogs with work shy attitudes. I hate that asian men view our women as worthless but perhaps before we call other cultures origins or whatever phrase suits we should look at our own culture . I have an 8 year old son and I am dreading him becoming a teenager. I dnt want girls near my son. Teenage girls as a majority are twice as filthy as young white or asian men these days. Sat on a bus full of primary school kids discussing blow jobs and fingering and who got laid last night!! Sounds course doesn't it??? any of u on here with teenage daughters wise up cuz that is what they are discussing on their way home from school. And when they came home an hour late on a Saturday night reaking of booze with an excuse they missed the bus they were geting laid wise up!!!!!!! I anyone is stupid enough to think that making this a race issue can excuse the behaviour of our girls is deluded. Girls have the opportunity to say know to the cars booze designer gear drugs etc if they were brought up to have a little self respect!!! I must stress I in no way condone the behaviour of any1 sleeping ith underage girls, but above the smoke screen of racism when are we goin to start bringing up our daughters instead of dragging them up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


MY RESPONSE & SUPPORT TO ABOVE COMMENT FROM ORIGINAL ARTICLE:
Absolutely agree with this post ... we need to bring up our daughters whatever race/religion with more self respect and go back to basic values. We need to apply this principle right across our lives. I don't care what faith you areif any - we just pray in a different manner and am sure 'God' or whatever name you call him would not condone this behaviour. We are human first and foremost so start acting that way, treat others how you wish to be treated.

As for Jack - he is obviously not going to stand up for re-elcetion so needed to finally say what we all knew. As for these lads-yes they are a minority but the 'community' and 'families' know exactly what they are doing and are as much culprits for ignoring the facts that are in their face everyday. But hey-ho NIMBY syndrome and if their daughter is ok then it is fine BUT remember what goes round comes around. Forget you honour and all that crap put humanity first and the principles of your faith if you have one. You have to face you God one day don't you???

This issue is common knowledge here in Blackburn, but to talk or report to someone in authority just falls on deaf ears & you are branded a racist "the pc manipulation of the masses". i have first hand experience of these animals as my daughters have been approached by cars full of pakistani men on a couple of occasions, called the police but no interest whatsoever..
It worries me when muslim authority figures come out & say "wheres the proof" & "it isnt a racial issue" of course its a racial issue & it isnt going to change anytime soon unless people wake up..
p.s does anyone in Blackburn find they pay to much for their car insurance,enough said...

gal_MB wrote:
webber26 wrote:
How can u possibly deport someone who was born here and is therefore british, studied here paid taxes etc????? Whilst I have had first hand experience of this kind of thing i do not agree with alot of what is being said. I was born in Stoneyholme Burnley now 98 %ethnic area. My father always warned me about young asian me and their lack of respect for young white women. Funny thing is I did not xperience such filth until I moved to Accrington. At 11 years old walking home from my 3rd dday at high school a car pulled up with an asian man telling me he ran an off license and he could give me free cigs and booze, I was petrified and ran home. I called the police and he was charged with a public order offence. Even after this experience I am still inclined to side with Imran and Jatt. Where are the parents carers etc of these girls? Like it or not booze induced pram pushing Britain is the way it is headed. Why do we have so many 15 year pregnant heroin addicted little trogs with work shy attitudes. I hate that asian men view our women as worthless but perhaps before we call other cultures origins or whatever phrase suits we should look at our own culture . I have an 8 year old son and I am dreading him becoming a teenager. I dnt want girls near my son. Teenage girls as a majority are twice as filthy as young white or asian men these days. Sat on a bus full of primary school kids discussing blow jobs and fingering and who got laid last night!! Sounds course doesn't it??? any of u on here with teenage daughters wise up cuz that is what they are discussing on their way home from school. And when they came home an hour late on a Saturday night reaking of booze with an excuse they missed the bus they were geting laid wise up!!!!!!! I anyone is stupid enough to think that making this a race issue can excuse the behaviour of our girls is deluded. Girls have the opportunity to say know to the cars booze designer gear drugs etc if they were brought up to have a little self respect!!! I must stress I in no way condone the behaviour of any1 sleeping ith underage girls, but above the smoke screen of racism when are we goin to start bringing up our daughters instead of dragging them up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


MY RESPONSE & SUPPORT TO ABOVE COMMENT FROM ORIGINAL ARTICLE:
Absolutely agree with this post ... we need to bring up our daughters whatever race/religion with more self respect and go back to basic values. We need to apply this principle right across our lives. I don't care what faith you areif any - we just pray in a different manner and am sure 'God' or whatever name you call him would not condone this behaviour. We are human first and foremost so start acting that way, treat others how you wish to be treated.

As for Jack - he is obviously not going to stand up for re-elcetion so needed to finally say what we all knew. As for these lads-yes they are a minority but the 'community' and 'families' know exactly what they are doing and are as much culprits for ignoring the facts that are in their face everyday. But hey-ho NIMBY syndrome and if their daughter is ok then it is fine BUT remember what goes round comes around. Forget you honour and all that crap put humanity first and the principles of your faith if you have one. You have to face you God one day don't you???

The Laws can be changed so that deportation can happen ie.
If you are of any generation of a person that immigrated the the United Kingdom and act in an unlawful way as to the Laws of the United Kingdom Deportation is an option of the Courts.
Not many Words but this Law can be very powerful, and I am sure that you will agree If you have done nothing wrong then you have nothing to fear..

It's been going on for years - I remember a similar case coming to light in Keighley about 15 years ago, but it was all hushed up and conveniently forgotten about, because the Asian community is in complete denial, and the indiginous community is too weak to stand up and say what they really think for fear of upsetting someone. It's time we all took our heads out of the sand regardless of our heritage, culture or religion and tackled this problem head on. It won't go away until we do.

No point commenting on here. Comments just get deleted by the LET PC Brigade!!!!

Imagine if you left all the comments on here LET. You would get a true reflection of what people actually think of Pakistani People.

Please remember that some of us have had first hand experience and dealings with the Pakistani people before you go deleting our valid comments.

Or is this just a one way debate?

No l;ets get this straight, Many many blacks were lynched for dating White women and they said they had been raped, we have extreme right wing nazis in blackburn and surrounding areas too, Fact is that Peadophiles and peado rings are mainly white middle aged males! thats the fact! What white people dont want to see is their daughters dating asian men, soemthign inside burns them to see it! Im not muslim but i do know that you are more likely to receive agro from white males for dating a white girl than the other way round! And lets get this straight, anti muslim propoganda is in full effect. any white person on here who can tell me that they have never seen a white male grope a girl on the dancefloor on any given friday sat night? And understand this young girls left out in the street to drink are subject to abuse from many men, and singleing out muslims is very convenient to todays political agenda, and it helps when a large portion of teh public have no sense of loyalty to those who fought and died to get rid of facism which is still the greatest threat to western civilisation and is responsible for more deaths than any islamic war in its entire history! So remember the British bron muslim is more of a brit than the Nazi styled BNP and EDL traitors! and that is a real fact! IM hindu and a true brit! Rather muslim brits than nazi brits! We asians and blacks would have never dreamt of coming if the british cowards admitted defeat in WW2! Blackburn is a ridiculous place

Checking by the vote i think Blackburn should refrain from any further WW2 rememberance considering they are adopting hitlers propoganda! seriously no whites ever run major peado gangs? and since when does two asians constitute as a peado gang praying on whtie girls? scared of a choco baby in your church???

As a once strong supporter of what was a Labour Party it is of no surprise to see this subject coming once more to the fore. Jack Straw is nearing the end of his career and is trying to tidy up his mistakes so nobody can say he did nothing. He now has nothing to lose but if anyone would have known what was happening he would most certainly have done so. Instead preferring to keep a distance rather than of upsetting some of his core voters. A few light comments perhaps but always wary of stepping over the line.
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As for the above statement:
“And over 1,000 Lancashire Telegraph readers have given the Blackburn MP overwhelming support in our online poll.”
What a misleading statement when there was no way of voting other than ’Yes’ or ‘No‘. People just care about what he was saying not for what he has done himself about the problem. No, they didn’t vote for Jack Straw, just concerned about the subject that never seems to go away. Rather like street prostitution on the streets of Blackburn, it‘s not a vote winner is it!

DChohan wrote:
Checking by the vote i think Blackburn should refrain from any further WW2 rememberance considering they are adopting hitlers propoganda! seriously no whites ever run major peado gangs? and since when does two asians constitute as a peado gang praying on whtie girls? scared of a choco baby in your church???

since when has it been just 2 asians? This has gone on for quite a few years but the media and the politicians are to scared to address this because of people like you. Both of your comments are narrow minded and racist. I can only conclude that you are just commenting on here to start an argument. Such a shame that you be-little an importment situation for your own self interests.

No i think those brits who cant see Nuremburg style witch hunts are the pathetic morons here! to say that Only Pakistani muslim youth pray on young white girls is ridiculous and its only a factor coz you white folk cant stand the sight of it! and show me proof of gangs of asians grooming, send me links mate, and i will send yuou ten white peado rings links! plonker! You go join the Nazi BNP voters and think about that on 11/11 during the minutes silence you traitorous coward! While Hindus Sikhs and Muslims honour those asian swho fell during the great war against facism!

What I love is the usual self-elected/self promoted so called community leaders commenting on issues that they have little or no understanding. Their pandering and saying all the right things is typical of their lack if intellectual understanding of the deeper issues. I agree that this is not a race issue but it is a issue amongst some young men who are grooming young girls for sex etc.. Deprivation/culture/
lack of brain has nothing to do with this.

What I find really amusing is their is little or no condemnation of these issues from these little or so called community leaders. They are too busy positioning their organisations when money is thrown at these issues so they can then siphon public monies and go and build homes in pakistan and India. I dont say this lighly but the bottom line that any young men committing such crimes is a sewer rat and should be given the maximum sentence and all sections of the community should rightly condemn it.

Whats required is an open and honest debate where these issues can be discussed - it all depends whether these community leaders can find the time to take their nostrils out of the trough.

Ciao

"Coun Shah Hussain, who represents Burnley’s predominately Asian Daneshouse and Stoneyholme ward, said: “It is unfortunate that Jack has come out and labelled an entire community in this way. "
whilst i really couldn't care less about jack straw he is reported to have said 'SOME' pakistanis. from what i've read he did not label an entire community.
maybe some people should listen and read more carefully.

DChohan wrote:
No i think those brits who cant see Nuremburg style witch hunts are the pathetic morons here! to say that Only Pakistani muslim youth pray on young white girls is ridiculous and its only a factor coz you white folk cant stand the sight of it! and show me proof of gangs of asians grooming, send me links mate, and i will send yuou ten white peado rings links! plonker! You go join the Nazi BNP voters and think about that on 11/11 during the minutes silence you traitorous coward! While Hindus Sikhs and Muslims honour those asian swho fell during the great war against facism!

No one's saying 'only Pakistani muslim youth pray (sic) on young white girls'. What we WILL say is Asians are still over represented in prison for rape - admittedly not as much as other ethnicities, but at 1.4 times higher than the population count, that's still disproportionately high in most people's book.

Read more: http://www.dailymail
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Why are 'community' leaders always being called for to tackle these problems? The perpertrators of these crimes do not have time to listen to their parents so what makes people think they'll sit and be lectured to by a total stranger. As for religion, when will people understand that religion has nothing to do with it - do you really think such people attend mosques, churches and go around carrying rosary beads in their hand - I don't think so. As for culture, these are youths who have been brought up here in the UK, not in Pakistan where drinking and other such activities are not a part of life. If you want someone to blame then it's the parents - in the asian community people are of the attitude that boys can do as they please because it will not hurt the family reputation which is why girls are kept so protected and disciplined. People need to realise that they should be raising their sons to be capable and respectful men instead of letting them run riot. As for the parents of the girl victims, what happened to teaching your children to say 'no', not to speak to strangers etc, after all they are not being dragged into cars against their will. Why are these girls out so late at night anyway? If people want to solve such problems they need to look within themselves and see what they can do to protect their children instead of pointing the finger of blame once it is too late.

If we're all for racial equality, then we'll soon see car-loads of white youth prowling Asian areas and luring young Asian girls into their cars. I wonder what would happen then?

oh right everyone on here that agrees with Mr Straw are the racists, and not the man that only remembers the fallen muslims on remembrance day and not the millions of fallen christians without whom none of these other migrants would have been able to settle here so long ago! well thats new!wise up, yet again playing the race card; if you agree with Jack Straw you're a nazi racist; FACT its people like you who can't have a reasonable well informed debate because of YOUR prejudices that are the real racists in our society, god forbid we speak the truth if it's about a so-called minority group, ANY other section of any community would not react like this and attempt to brand it racist and sweep it under the carpet they would say ok this is a serious problem, lets tackle it head on, but no all these people are bothered about is playing their much worn out race card WAKE UP stop pointing the finger and address the bloody problem

DChohan wrote:
No i think those brits who cant see Nuremburg style witch hunts are the pathetic morons here! to say that Only Pakistani muslim youth pray on young white girls is ridiculous and its only a factor coz you white folk cant stand the sight of it! and show me proof of gangs of asians grooming, send me links mate, and i will send yuou ten white peado rings links! plonker! You go join the Nazi BNP voters and think about that on 11/11 during the minutes silence you traitorous coward! While Hindus Sikhs and Muslims honour those asian swho fell during the great war against facism!

This paper has been reporting it for years, its all there for you to see if you open your eyes. You seem to be defending their actions on the basis that white men are peado's too. Are you saying two wrongs make a right? Anyway, why mention Hindus Sikhs, this is about SOME Pakistani lowlifes. Try to keep on subject please.

http://menmedia.co.u
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Ok seen as no-one can show me how two asians constitute as a major asian rape gang of pakistani origin, and not two pervert rapists, i have attached the above link, which shows a lot of white male rapists and peados arrested in manchester in the past two years, and i think 2 asians! now based on this i think every white male aged between 30 and 60 should have there computer usage removed or send them to Norway or normandy as tehy are migrants from there! see how silly it sounds when you change asian to white! things is its very convenient especially now we have right wing nazis making a come back! let me repeat what 1m white brits voted for! Mark Collett BNP number 2 and hero to uneducated white britain said " Winston Churchill was a C### because he made white people fight against white people!" 1million white brits voted for this guy and still stood shamelessly in silence on 11/11!

DChohan wrote:
http://menmedia.co.u

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Ok seen as no-one can show me how two asians constitute as a major asian rape gang of pakistani origin, and not two pervert rapists, i have attached the above link, which shows a lot of white male rapists and peados arrested in manchester in the past two years, and i think 2 asians! now based on this i think every white male aged between 30 and 60 should have there computer usage removed or send them to Norway or normandy as tehy are migrants from there! see how silly it sounds when you change asian to white! things is its very convenient especially now we have right wing nazis making a come back! let me repeat what 1m white brits voted for! Mark Collett BNP number 2 and hero to uneducated white britain said " Winston Churchill was a C### because he made white people fight against white people!" 1million white brits voted for this guy and still stood shamelessly in silence on 11/11!

Read the facts as presented above; Asians are over-represented in prison for rape. That is documented, factual evidence. No one's saying ALL asian men are rapists, just that there is a higher preponderance of rape in that community than amongst the indigenous population.

Interesting is the fact it has not been presented in the correct light here, many of these girls are in one way or another connected to either the scientologist's, the Evangelical Churches, are in care or operate for the corporate private security, be they mentored by or training to be.
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Entrapment is in many cases the MO here, but not in all cases.
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Balance is required in this debate...

well done lacashire evening toilet paper
for free and open debate...NOT

ive got 1st hand experience of this grooming. my daughter was a victim!!! since the age of 13 she has been preyed on by these lowlife. at 13 what do these girls know of the dangers. only when its too late !!! she has been in care out of the area. soon as she returned it started again. 95% of these scum where asian origin. thats a fact. its so easy to say im a racist. i am now!!!!. my daughters life as been ruined forever. the police response? if i take the law into my own hands i would be prosecuted.!!! think how you would feel when social services take your daughter for an aids test at 13!! she dissapears for days at a time and im left waiting for the knock on the door hoping shes not dead. im tormented at whats happened. i cant bring my daughters past back but hopefully somebody elses daughter wont be snared by these perverts. please check your daughters pc,s , phones etc.

The LET says lets have a free and open debate on the subject, but when you leave a comment relating to an incident of your own experience it deletes it. Well done LET, if you or your PC masters don't agree with the comment whether its true or not, delete it!!!!!!!!!!!!

I am asian myself but some Asian lad out ARE with no respect

They should be locked in the house.

Once they see a lady they thinks "shes mine"

They should have some respect

Asian lads dont mess with Asian girls becuase they know ithey would be beaten.

Tougher laws should be brought if somone assaults different race

ghanto wrote:
I am asian myself but some Asian lad out ARE with no respect

They should be locked in the house.

Once they see a lady they thinks "shes mine"

They should have some respect

Asian lads dont mess with Asian girls becuase they know ithey would be beaten.

Tougher laws should be brought if somone assaults different race

well said ghanto

nothing like civil unrest if you wish to activate the Contingency system....
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setting yourselves up....what a great way to pass the day

Lifeinthemix wrote:
nothing like civil unrest if you wish to activate the Contingency system.... . setting yourselves up....what a great way to pass the day

You've been preaching this for the last two years or more and nothing ever happens... When are you going to get the message and check-in somewhere ?
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And for everyone else the following link is very interesting

http://www.telegraph
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ChiRho
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So I am having success...people are not stupid and hear my call

the journalist on this story has got it wrong, jack straw should be given no creedence whatsoever on this story, he knew all about this when he was the justice minister and dismissed it out of hand as a racist lie from the bnp and he said that there was nothing to worry about, he is just an opportunist politician jumping on the bandwagon now that the truth has come out

Lifeinthemix wrote:
ChiRho . So I am having success...people are not stupid and hear my call

We cant help but hear your call LITM. Your on here 24/7.
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Its just that all the doomsday predictions you espouse have come to nothing. All of them. Every one. Nada. Nothing happening...

I just wondered when you were going to realise that its you and not us ?

But some of the so -called victims are not exactly innoncent. Have you seen how they dress and the under-age drinking?. It a stark contrast with modest.well behaved Asian girls.
Indecent exposures by white lads in Burnley is just as serious in its own way.

FOR THOSE who said something about the representation! I do believe we have a problem but its the crime thats the problem NOT the culture! also the booze the alcohol & drugs r the problems! u can't tackle one problem without looking at the whole range of issues involved here. Ultimately parents and your peers, we now live in a world where u think about urself and urself only! no social responsibilities anymore! "Asians are, in fact, under-represented among sex offenders. As at June 2009, there were 7,021 British men in prison for sex crimes, of whom only 234 were Asian. That is 3.3 per cent, rather less than the proportion of Asians in the population. And a 2008 study by Malcolm Cowburn of Sheffield Hallam University found that jailed sex criminals from ethnic minorities were less likely to have abused children than white sex offenders. REF: http://www.telegraph
.co.uk/news/uknews/c
rime/8248347/Are-whi
te-girls-really-easy
-meat.html

Lifeinthemix wrote:
Interesting is the fact it has not been presented in the correct light here, many of these girls are in one way or another connected to either the scientologist's, the Evangelical Churches, are in care or operate for the corporate private security, be they mentored by or training to be. . Entrapment is in many cases the MO here, but not in all cases. . Balance is required in this debate...

Normally we can all just laugh at you and your rantings but this is just the product of a sick mind.
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These girls are connected to scientologists and evangelical churches!!! operate for corporate private security!!! entrapment the MO!
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what a pathetic, sad and disturbed little creature you are.

clarets8 wrote:
ive got 1st hand experience of this grooming. my daughter was a victim!!! since the age of 13 she has been preyed on by these lowlife. at 13 what do these girls know of the dangers. only when its too late !!! she has been in care out of the area. soon as she returned it started again. 95% of these scum where asian origin. thats a fact. its so easy to say im a racist. i am now!!!!. my daughters life as been ruined forever. the police response? if i take the law into my own hands i would be prosecuted.!!! think how you would feel when social services take your daughter for an aids test at 13!! she dissapears for days at a time and im left waiting for the knock on the door hoping shes not dead. im tormented at whats happened. i cant bring my daughters past back but hopefully somebody elses daughter wont be snared by these perverts. please check your daughters pc,s , phones etc.

What dangers do they know at 13 are you for real????????? I strongley suggest you read your post back!! They know the dangers that parents advise them on your post begs the question why is your daughter in or been in care why did she disappear for days at a time at 13 years old and why did u allow it? enough with what the asian white or any other race are doing when it comes to our kids what are we doing as parents I cannot believe what I am hearing. Where were you and what were u doing wen ure daughter saw fit to get into an older mans car at 13 and disapear for 3 days?? If your daughter does not know the dangers of getting into cars taking drugs etc then the only person u should be holding responsible is you for not making her aware !!!!!!!

If anyones daughter HAS been approached by asian men, then report it and insist it was a RACIST incident. The police have to act on this........not enough white people have the sense to report anything like this as racist....if the shoe were on the other foot................
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Wow! I’ve been reading posts on this website for quite some time and its interesting how people think (racism, stupidity and pure ignorance). I myself an Asian Muslim lad from Blackburn Aged 23 graduated now employed, pay my taxes, in a relationship with an Asian girl been with her for 5 years and intending on marrying her (just to paint the picture).
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I drive a flash car for my age, an Audi, because I love cars and enjoy driving, and I know about insurance because I pay 2K myself, and yeah it pees me off but it’s a legal requirement and has to be done. Again it is a minority that pull scams and some people think it’s the whole race, or people from a particular religion, but no it is all sorts of people.
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More to the subject, I personally have dated white girls in the past which doesn’t mean I’m a peado and I’ve not passed them on to older men obviously not grooming them, and never touched alcohol. But in my teens I’ve seen interaction between white girls with Asian lads and vice versa in many ways. I knew how some girls worked, and I knew how the guys worked. And it’s hard to say that it’s any particular one’s fault. You get different cases. Some white girls just see him as fit and want a piece, and some just want to sit in the car, look cool, some intend to have a relationship with them but doesn’t work out. The guys just want some action, wouldn’t a white guy? If she was into you? Some men can’t resist, so you can’t just blame some particular people.
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I know several people that have married white girls, so you have to see it from a wider perspective, not everyone’s the same as Straw has pointed out, “some”, and not everyone’s goal is to groom etc.
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Drugs drink and all that is desperation that both the guys and the girls would engage in (think they’re having a good time, but really just harming themselves), something that should be controlled from a young age by parents; many comments are true and point that out.
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Girls these days just want to be older and try all that’s available to society, other girls have done it so they want to try it.
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Parenting, religion and self-respect comes all in-one here.
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You get s***s of all races however a lot from the white race as they believe in too much freedom and have the “I can do what I want” attitude. And their parents let them do what they want, which is not how it should be dealt with. You get some Asian girls that are not all well behaved but the majority are modest. Why?
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Islam teaches women to cover and behave respectively; being scared of your god restrains one to do something bad, and teaches parents to protect their children, intoxication is a no go and loads more, again not everyone follows their religion like they are supposed to, but my recent interest in the teachings of the Quran has taught me a lot. Islam is a way of life and not just what the media portrays it to be. Don’t want to get into detail about religion or I will just get grief back. But just think about it. What do white girls believe in? What are their beliefs? Again not all white girls. I know well respected girls from University but in Blackburn and Burnley theirs this type you get that are just perceived as ‘on it’, and bring it on themselves by the clothes they have on. She just wants a s*** and she’ll go with someone else, probably the same day. But why? No faith no self-respect. They just want to be loved but not getting enough at home, so they go out looking for it.
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The men don’t do their religion and culture any favours also. The way they treat girls is awful, but why do they treat them in such a way? And why do they have the ‘pimp’ mentality; why do they just have their time with them and leave them?
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A lot of TV is the reason, in music videos women are seen to be s** objects and the men pimping them acting bad, girls acting dirty to get the attention of the men, do you not think this is being practised in this day and age? And studies do show that TV and music are both influential, fashion also do you not think? It’s all a factor and helps towards this naive behaviour in the young.
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I have a teenage sister and I try my best to look after her, she’s a college student and when I visit sometimes I think times have changed from when I attended college, and the difference is that everything is so openly done, so much s** is given to children these days and they can’t control it.
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All this is a fraction of my opinion and the way I see it and sorry if it doesn’t make sense to you, religion and faith is the way forward. Did you know that Tony Blair’s sister in-law’s converted to Islam? I just found out; she saw the light along with many other people, and maybe so can you. Sorry if I offended anyone as well. Enjoy the rest of your evening. May god guide and protect us all. Goodbye, God Bless and peace.

My only comment on this issue is this, don't allow your daughter to go anywhere near the cinema at Blackburn, the place is crawling with you asian males in fancy cars looking for an opportunity, I have witnessed this myself and have banned my daughter from going anywhere near the place

We launch campaign to help vice-trap children
7:00pm Tuesday 11th July 2006

THE Lancashire Evening Telegraph today launches a campaign to bring vital help to children who are being lured by predators into a sordid world of under-age sex and drugs.

Our Keep Them Safe' campaign is backed by MPs, the police, social services, children's charities, community leaders and the parents of victims.

We are calling on the whole of the community to get behind this cause and stamp out this sickening practice.

Evening Telegraph editor Kevin Young
It begins after an Evening Telegraph investigation revealed that up to 100 girls between 12 and 16 in East Lancashire had been targeted by gangs of older predatory males predom-inantly Asian in the last year.

The girls, who repeatedly go missing from home or care, are showered with gifts and attention and given drink and drugs before being forced to perform sex acts in return sometimes with more than 10 men a night.

Today Muslim community leaders praised the Evening Telegraph for the "brave decision" to tackle the issue and said that the Muslim community would support the campaign in any way they could.

Police backed the campaign but said that sexual grooming was not a racist issue and that white men were also involved in grooming girls for sex, predominantly via the internet.

The mother of 14-year-old who was abused and raped after being groomed into sexual exploitation, said she has never wanted sympathy for what happened to her daughter just to prevent it happening to any more children.

The Keep Them Safe' campaign has six main aims:
l Raise public awareness about the sexual exploitation of children.
l Lobby the government to increase Home Office funding to target offenders.
l Set up a dedicated phone line that victims of sexual exploitation can call for support and advice.
l Have the issue of grooming integrated into personal, social and health education in schools.
l Set up an overnight refuge for child victims of sexual exploitation from East Lancashire.
l Set up an on-line e-counselling service for the young people.
Evening Telegraph editor, Kevin Young, said: "In launching this campaign our prime aim is to protect the victims.

"Young girls are being exploited by dangerous predators and this practice has to end.

"We are calling on the whole of the community to get behind this cause and stamp out this sickening practice."

Blackburn MP and Leader of the House of Commons Jack Straw said: "I am very happy to back the campaign and will certainly talk to the Home Secretary John Reid to see whether there is any funding available for this.

"And I would also like to say that the Lancashire Evening Telegraph has done an important public service with this series of reports and has hopefully saved some young women from going through a similar ordeal."

Hyndburn MP Greg Pope has vowed to table Parliamentary questions about what the Government is doing to tackle the problem of sexual exploitation of children.

He said: "These are the most appalling crimes committed against vulnerable young children.

"I commend the Lancashire Evening Telegraph for taking this stance and using its role to campaign for greater awareness and better facilities for these victims."

Burnley MP Kitty Ussher said: "Ignoring this issue or pretending it isn't happening will not make the situation any better and I will give all the support I can to a campaign which raises awareness.

"We must send a message to the abusers that this is not something our community will tolerate and also a message to the young people that they can have the confidence to know we are standing with them and are on their side."

Lancashire Constabulary's Assistant Chief Constable (Operations), Mike Cunningham, said: "This is an excellent campaign and Lancashire Constabulary would support any work that is undertaken to protect these vulnerable children. We are committed to continuing our work to tackle this head on with the support of partner agencies, to try and end this cycle of abuse."

One mother, Jayne, (not her real name) has already been to see Blackburn MP Jack Straw about the sexual exploitation of her daughter in East Lancashire and said she is prepared to do whatever it takes to get help for these girls.

Jayne, whose daughter went missing from home over 90 times, today backed the campaign and said: "Until now nobody has known that this is going on.

"We must now work together to look out for it and then stamp it out for good."

No its not.Islam teaches respect for women. These young girls bring some of this on themselves and lead young Asian lads on.
You can have genuine mixed race relationships : there are lots of young women wearing traditional Islamic dress in both Blackburn and Burnley. Burnley indeed is one of the fastest growing towns for this in East Lancashire.

interaction wrote:
Wow! I’ve been reading posts on this website for quite some time and its interesting how people think (racism, stupidity and pure ignorance). I myself an Asian Muslim lad from Blackburn Aged 23 graduated now employed, pay my taxes, in a relationship with an Asian girl been with her for 5 years and intending on marrying her (just to paint the picture). . I drive a flash car for my age, an Audi, because I love cars and enjoy driving, and I know about insurance because I pay 2K myself, and yeah it pees me off but it’s a legal requirement and has to be done. Again it is a minority that pull scams and some people think it’s the whole race, or people from a particular religion, but no it is all sorts of people. . More to the subject, I personally have dated white girls in the past which doesn’t mean I’m a peado and I’ve not passed them on to older men obviously not grooming them, and never touched alcohol. But in my teens I’ve seen interaction between white girls with Asian lads and vice versa in many ways. I knew how some girls worked, and I knew how the guys worked. And it’s hard to say that it’s any particular one’s fault. You get different cases. Some white girls just see him as fit and want a piece, and some just want to sit in the car, look cool, some intend to have a relationship with them but doesn’t work out. The guys just want some action, wouldn’t a white guy? If she was into you? Some men can’t resist, so you can’t just blame some particular people. . I know several people that have married white girls, so you have to see it from a wider perspective, not everyone’s the same as Straw has pointed out, “some”, and not everyone’s goal is to groom etc. . Drugs drink and all that is desperation that both the guys and the girls would engage in (think they’re having a good time, but really just harming themselves), something that should be controlled from a young age by parents; many comments are true and point that out. . Girls these days just want to be older and try all that’s available to society, other girls have done it so they want to try it. . Parenting, religion and self-respect comes all in-one here. . You get s***s of all races however a lot from the white race as they believe in too much freedom and have the “I can do what I want” attitude. And their parents let them do what they want, which is not how it should be dealt with. You get some Asian girls that are not all well behaved but the majority are modest. Why? . Islam teaches women to cover and behave respectively; being scared of your god restrains one to do something bad, and teaches parents to protect their children, intoxication is a no go and loads more, again not everyone follows their religion like they are supposed to, but my recent interest in the teachings of the Quran has taught me a lot. Islam is a way of life and not just what the media portrays it to be. Don’t want to get into detail about religion or I will just get grief back. But just think about it. What do white girls believe in? What are their beliefs? Again not all white girls. I know well respected girls from University but in Blackburn and Burnley theirs this type you get that are just perceived as ‘on it’, and bring it on themselves by the clothes they have on. She just wants a s*** and she’ll go with someone else, probably the same day. But why? No faith no self-respect. They just want to be loved but not getting enough at home, so they go out looking for it. . The men don’t do their religion and culture any favours also. The way they treat girls is awful, but why do they treat them in such a way? And why do they have the ‘pimp’ mentality; why do they just have their time with them and leave them? . A lot of TV is the reason, in music videos women are seen to be s** objects and the men pimping them acting bad, girls acting dirty to get the attention of the men, do you not think this is being practised in this day and age? And studies do show that TV and music are both influential, fashion also do you not think? It’s all a factor and helps towards this naive behaviour in the young. . I have a teenage sister and I try my best to look after her, she’s a college student and when I visit sometimes I think times have changed from when I attended college, and the difference is that everything is so openly done, so much s** is given to children these days and they can’t control it. . All this is a fraction of my opinion and the way I see it and sorry if it doesn’t make sense to you, religion and faith is the way forward. Did you know that Tony Blair’s sister in-law’s converted to Islam? I just found out; she saw the light along with many other people, and maybe so can you. Sorry if I offended anyone as well. Enjoy the rest of your evening. May god guide and protect us all. Goodbye, God Bless and peace.

So if a young white girl wears a short skirt and high heels she deserves what she gets is what you are saying ?
You have your beliefs in covering your wifes and daughters faces up( even if they dont want to) so why cant a white girl walk around and wear what she wants without groups of asian men leering at them from car windows?
And coverting to islam? your having a laugh,what colour is the sky in your world??????

bangersandmash wrote:

interaction wrote:
Wow! I’ve been reading posts on this website for quite some time and its interesting how people think (racism, stupidity and pure ignorance). I myself an Asian Muslim lad from Blackburn Aged 23 graduated now employed, pay my taxes, in a relationship with an Asian girl been with her for 5 years and intending on marrying her (just to paint the picture). . I drive a flash car for my age, an Audi, because I love cars and enjoy driving, and I know about insurance because I pay 2K myself, and yeah it pees me off but it’s a legal requirement and has to be done. Again it is a minority that pull scams and some people think it’s the whole race, or people from a particular religion, but no it is all sorts of people. . More to the subject, I personally have dated white girls in the past which doesn’t mean I’m a peado and I’ve not passed them on to older men obviously not grooming them, and never touched alcohol. But in my teens I’ve seen interaction between white girls with Asian lads and vice versa in many ways. I knew how some girls worked, and I knew how the guys worked. And it’s hard to say that it’s any particular one’s fault. You get different cases. Some white girls just see him as fit and want a piece, and some just want to sit in the car, look cool, some intend to have a relationship with them but doesn’t work out. The guys just want some action, wouldn’t a white guy? If she was into you? Some men can’t resist, so you can’t just blame some particular people. . I know several people that have married white girls, so you have to see it from a wider perspective, not everyone’s the same as Straw has pointed out, “some”, and not everyone’s goal is to groom etc. . Drugs drink and all that is desperation that both the guys and the girls would engage in (think they’re having a good time, but really just harming themselves), something that should be controlled from a young age by parents; many comments are true and point that out. . Girls these days just want to be older and try all that’s available to society, other girls have done it so they want to try it. . Parenting, religion and self-respect comes all in-one here. . You get s***s of all races however a lot from the white race as they believe in too much freedom and have the “I can do what I want” attitude. And their parents let them do what they want, which is not how it should be dealt with. You get some Asian girls that are not all well behaved but the majority are modest. Why? . Islam teaches women to cover and behave respectively; being scared of your god restrains one to do something bad, and teaches parents to protect their children, intoxication is a no go and loads more, again not everyone follows their religion like they are supposed to, but my recent interest in the teachings of the Quran has taught me a lot. Islam is a way of life and not just what the media portrays it to be. Don’t want to get into detail about religion or I will just get grief back. But just think about it. What do white girls believe in? What are their beliefs? Again not all white girls. I know well respected girls from University but in Blackburn and Burnley theirs this type you get that are just perceived as ‘on it’, and bring it on themselves by the clothes they have on. She just wants a s*** and she’ll go with someone else, probably the same day. But why? No faith no self-respect. They just want to be loved but not getting enough at home, so they go out looking for it. . The men don’t do their religion and culture any favours also. The way they treat girls is awful, but why do they treat them in such a way? And why do they have the ‘pimp’ mentality; why do they just have their time with them and leave them? . A lot of TV is the reason, in music videos women are seen to be s** objects and the men pimping them acting bad, girls acting dirty to get the attention of the men, do you not think this is being practised in this day and age? And studies do show that TV and music are both influential, fashion also do you not think? It’s all a factor and helps towards this naive behaviour in the young. . I have a teenage sister and I try my best to look after her, she’s a college student and when I visit sometimes I think times have changed from when I attended college, and the difference is that everything is so openly done, so much s** is given to children these days and they can’t control it. . All this is a fraction of my opinion and the way I see it and sorry if it doesn’t make sense to you, religion and faith is the way forward. Did you know that Tony Blair’s sister in-law’s converted to Islam? I just found out; she saw the light along with many other people, and maybe so can you. Sorry if I offended anyone as well. Enjoy the rest of your evening. May god guide and protect us all. Goodbye, God Bless and peace.

So if a young white girl wears a short skirt and high heels she deserves what she gets is what you are saying ?
You have your beliefs in covering your wifes and daughters faces up( even if they dont want to) so why cant a white girl walk around and wear what she wants without groups of asian men leering at them from car windows?
And coverting to islam? your having a laugh,what colour is the sky in your world??????

I think that could be just the type of ignorance he was talking about in the first paragraph well done for that

duggie123 wrote:
My only comment on this issue is this, don't allow your daughter to go anywhere near the cinema at Blackburn, the place is crawling with you asian males in fancy cars looking for an opportunity, I have witnessed this myself and have banned my daughter from going anywhere near the place

vue....are you listening

Interaction

A very good post and I agree with everything you say bar one issue.
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You mention that "Islam teaches women to cover and behave respectfully" and I agree. You then do not appear to pass the same judgement on the men of the religion and I beleive herein lies the problem. Should Islam not also teach the men to behave respectfully ? If so we shouldn't have a problem.
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There is an issue in the way women are perceived in Islam. That is not the same as men - they are not equal.
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This issue of sexual criminality is not confined to any race or religion but it is concerning that there is a prevalence amonst one demographic in this instance.

William Wade wrote:
No its not.Islam teaches respect for women. These young girls bring some of this on themselves and lead young Asian lads on.
You can have genuine mixed race relationships : there are lots of young women wearing traditional Islamic dress in both Blackburn and Burnley. Burnley indeed is one of the fastest growing towns for this in East Lancashire.

it only teaches respect for asian women

For anyone who cannot quite grasp how most white girls are raised by there parents please watch shamless tonight and everynight this week at 10pm on channel 4. Then tell me you have an argument the programme is not fiction it is based on the real life experiences of a man who was born and bred in Burnley!!

webber26 wrote:

bangersandmash wrote:

interaction wrote: Wow! I’ve been reading posts on this website for quite some time and its interesting how people think (racism, stupidity and pure ignorance). I myself an Asian Muslim lad from Blackburn Aged 23 graduated now employed, pay my taxes, in a relationship with an Asian girl been with her for 5 years and intending on marrying her (just to paint the picture). . I drive a flash car for my age, an Audi, because I love cars and enjoy driving, and I know about insurance because I pay 2K myself, and yeah it pees me off but it’s a legal requirement and has to be done. Again it is a minority that pull scams and some people think it’s the whole race, or people from a particular religion, but no it is all sorts of people. . More to the subject, I personally have dated white girls in the past which doesn’t mean I’m a peado and I’ve not passed them on to older men obviously not grooming them, and never touched alcohol. But in my teens I’ve seen interaction between white girls with Asian lads and vice versa in many ways. I knew how some girls worked, and I knew how the guys worked. And it’s hard to say that it’s any particular one’s fault. You get different cases. Some white girls just see him as fit and want a piece, and some just want to sit in the car, look cool, some intend to have a relationship with them but doesn’t work out. The guys just want some action, wouldn’t a white guy? If she was into you? Some men can’t resist, so you can’t just blame some particular people. . I know several people that have married white girls, so you have to see it from a wider perspective, not everyone’s the same as Straw has pointed out, “some”, and not everyone’s goal is to groom etc. . Drugs drink and all that is desperation that both the guys and the girls would engage in (think they’re having a good time, but really just harming themselves), something that should be controlled from a young age by parents; many comments are true and point that out. . Girls these days just want to be older and try all that’s available to society, other girls have done it so they want to try it. . Parenting, religion and self-respect comes all in-one here. . You get s***s of all races however a lot from the white race as they believe in too much freedom and have the “I can do what I want” attitude. And their parents let them do what they want, which is not how it should be dealt with. You get some Asian girls that are not all well behaved but the majority are modest. Why? . Islam teaches women to cover and behave respectively; being scared of your god restrains one to do something bad, and teaches parents to protect their children, intoxication is a no go and loads more, again not everyone follows their religion like they are supposed to, but my recent interest in the teachings of the Quran has taught me a lot. Islam is a way of life and not just what the media portrays it to be. Don’t want to get into detail about religion or I will just get grief back. But just think about it. What do white girls believe in? What are their beliefs? Again not all white girls. I know well respected girls from University but in Blackburn and Burnley theirs this type you get that are just perceived as ‘on it’, and bring it on themselves by the clothes they have on. She just wants a s*** and she’ll go with someone else, probably the same day. But why? No faith no self-respect. They just want to be loved but not getting enough at home, so they go out looking for it. . The men don’t do their religion and culture any favours also. The way they treat girls is awful, but why do they treat them in such a way? And why do they have the ‘pimp’ mentality; why do they just have their time with them and leave them? . A lot of TV is the reason, in music videos women are seen to be s** objects and the men pimping them acting bad, girls acting dirty to get the attention of the men, do you not think this is being practised in this day and age? And studies do show that TV and music are both influential, fashion also do you not think? It’s all a factor and helps towards this naive behaviour in the young. . I have a teenage sister and I try my best to look after her, she’s a college student and when I visit sometimes I think times have changed from when I attended college, and the difference is that everything is so openly done, so much s** is given to children these days and they can’t control it. . All this is a fraction of my opinion and the way I see it and sorry if it doesn’t make sense to you, religion and faith is the way forward. Did you know that Tony Blair’s sister in-law’s converted to Islam? I just found out; she saw the light along with many other people, and maybe so can you. Sorry if I offended anyone as well. Enjoy the rest of your evening. May god guide and protect us all. Goodbye, God Bless and peace.

So if a young white girl wears a short skirt and high heels she deserves what she gets is what you are saying ? You have your beliefs in covering your wifes and daughters faces up( even if they dont want to) so why cant a white girl walk around and wear what she wants without groups of asian men leering at them from car windows? And coverting to islam? your having a laugh,what colour is the sky in your world??????

I think that could be just the type of ignorance he was talking about in the first paragraph well done for that

We all have our own beliefs, if you dont like mine then keep it shut!

Ha ha is that how you speak to all white girls wheres your respect??

bangersandmash wrote:

interaction wrote: Wow! I’ve been reading posts on this website for quite some time and its interesting how people think (racism, stupidity and pure ignorance). I myself an Asian Muslim lad from Blackburn Aged 23 graduated now employed, pay my taxes, in a relationship with an Asian girl been with her for 5 years and intending on marrying her (just to paint the picture). . I drive a flash car for my age, an Audi, because I love cars and enjoy driving, and I know about insurance because I pay 2K myself, and yeah it pees me off but it’s a legal requirement and has to be done. Again it is a minority that pull scams and some people think it’s the whole race, or people from a particular religion, but no it is all sorts of people. . More to the subject, I personally have dated white girls in the past which doesn’t mean I’m a peado and I’ve not passed them on to older men obviously not grooming them, and never touched alcohol. But in my teens I’ve seen interaction between white girls with Asian lads and vice versa in many ways. I knew how some girls worked, and I knew how the guys worked. And it’s hard to say that it’s any particular one’s fault. You get different cases. Some white girls just see him as fit and want a piece, and some just want to sit in the car, look cool, some intend to have a relationship with them but doesn’t work out. The guys just want some action, wouldn’t a white guy? If she was into you? Some men can’t resist, so you can’t just blame some particular people. . I know several people that have married white girls, so you have to see it from a wider perspective, not everyone’s the same as Straw has pointed out, “some”, and not everyone’s goal is to groom etc. . Drugs drink and all that is desperation that both the guys and the girls would engage in (think they’re having a good time, but really just harming themselves), something that should be controlled from a young age by parents; many comments are true and point that out. . Girls these days just want to be older and try all that’s available to society, other girls have done it so they want to try it. . Parenting, religion and self-respect comes all in-one here. . You get s***s of all races however a lot from the white race as they believe in too much freedom and have the “I can do what I want” attitude. And their parents let them do what they want, which is not how it should be dealt with. You get some Asian girls that are not all well behaved but the majority are modest. Why? . Islam teaches women to cover and behave respectively; being scared of your god restrains one to do something bad, and teaches parents to protect their children, intoxication is a no go and loads more, again not everyone follows their religion like they are supposed to, but my recent interest in the teachings of the Quran has taught me a lot. Islam is a way of life and not just what the media portrays it to be. Don’t want to get into detail about religion or I will just get grief back. But just think about it. What do white girls believe in? What are their beliefs? Again not all white girls. I know well respected girls from University but in Blackburn and Burnley theirs this type you get that are just perceived as ‘on it’, and bring it on themselves by the clothes they have on. She just wants a s*** and she’ll go with someone else, probably the same day. But why? No faith no self-respect. They just want to be loved but not getting enough at home, so they go out looking for it. . The men don’t do their religion and culture any favours also. The way they treat girls is awful, but why do they treat them in such a way? And why do they have the ‘pimp’ mentality; why do they just have their time with them and leave them? . A lot of TV is the reason, in music videos women are seen to be s** objects and the men pimping them acting bad, girls acting dirty to get the attention of the men, do you not think this is being practised in this day and age? And studies do show that TV and music are both influential, fashion also do you not think? It’s all a factor and helps towards this naive behaviour in the young. . I have a teenage sister and I try my best to look after her, she’s a college student and when I visit sometimes I think times have changed from when I attended college, and the difference is that everything is so openly done, so much s** is given to children these days and they can’t control it. . All this is a fraction of my opinion and the way I see it and sorry if it doesn’t make sense to you, religion and faith is the way forward. Did you know that Tony Blair’s sister in-law’s converted to Islam? I just found out; she saw the light along with many other people, and maybe so can you. Sorry if I offended anyone as well. Enjoy the rest of your evening. May god guide and protect us all. Goodbye, God Bless and peace.

So if a young white girl wears a short skirt and high heels she deserves what she gets is what you are saying ? You have your beliefs in covering your wifes and daughters faces up( even if they dont want to) so why cant a white girl walk around and wear what she wants without groups of asian men leering at them from car windows? And coverting to islam? your having a laugh,what colour is the sky in your world??????

Many colours, sometimes even red, however, peaceful. Not all white girls dress like that, and not all Asian girls dress accordingly. Covering i don’t mean the face, I mean their bodies; decently. If you see a girl with her hair done from the back you’re likely to turn around to see her face, whereas if she’s covered then would you look back and check her out? Unlikely.
White women already dress how they want and so do women from other backgrounds; breasts hanging out, and their bottoms being shown; showing as much of their flesh as possible. Attention is being given, so what.
And last of all, no-one deserves anything of this matter. My point is not that the guys are right, but in this case, no-one is right or wrong. Everyone is different, just remember.
But i don't want to argue. Our beliefs differentiate a lot and i really need to get stuck in traffic to go home. Religion builds a foundation in a person. But good luck to you.

webber26 wrote:
Ha ha is that how you speak to all white girls wheres your respect??

Listen, iam pointing out what i see when i walk down the street, and i do see cars with 4 or 5 young asians shouting out of the windows at them when all they are doing is walking down the street minding there own buisness.If you think that is ok then you have no respect for them, not me?
Imagine if it was the other way around and it was white lads shouting at asian girls,imagine if it was your daughter that was being leered at.

At the end of the day Jack Straw should have grown a pair years ago when this problem first became apparent.

His comments did NOT indicate that ALL Pakistani men were paedophiles/pimps but that there was a number of Pakistani men (fact) who were guilty of these crimes.

He also stated that the majority of sex offenders currently in prison were white males (again, fact)

Asian men/young white female abuse has been an ongoing problem in the Blackburn area for a number of years but the authorities are reluctant to deal with it for fear of being labelled racist so the perpetrators aren't charged.

People are posting on here, angry because they either ARE Asian and (wrongly) feel like they are being implicated or that they 'know' Asian people who are not connected with this behaviour.

Get a life and listen to what he actually said instead of jumping on the 'I'm deeply offended' bandwagon.

It is a fact that these crimes ARE being carried out by a SECTION of the Asian male community and it has to be dealt with.

It's no good defending these claims by saying that white men predominantly offend - we know that because, thankfully, a good deal of them are behind bars.

I personally lived in the Bank Top/King Street area for nearly 40 years and have witnessed on many, many occasions cars full of young Asian males cruising the streets at night harassing and intimidating any white female who happens to be about, including myself and my daughters on occasions when walking to the shops.

This problem SHOULD be addressed for what it is, to deal with the paedophiles and sex offenders and not just used as an excuse for racism claims.

at least every one is now talking..
maybe we might undertstand each other now..respect each other and get along with each other..it's long over due..
peace

if we had the respect for each other there would not be a problem...forget about how young people dress..
they have a right to safety..the problem is in the eye of the beholder.

hey everybody... ive never commented on here before, but would like to have my say on this story!!!! i just wana know how can people judge?comment?assume
? when they dont know what these girls go threw.. well i do!!! about 11yr ago i was one of those girls, it isnt nice, its hard to get out of that circle once your in it.. not even parents friends, nobody can help you!!! These people get into your head and really thrash it feeding aload of bu**sh*t to get whatever they want outta you... yes there are alot of asians that do it but there are white lads in these groups aswell.. ive come out the other side with a lovely partner and a gorgeous child. so instead of judging these girls come and apeak to someone who knows.... sorry for goin on but it brings back bad memories n thought id say my piece.. take care

Mohammed Shafiq, chief executive of the Ramadhan Foundation, a Muslim youth organisation, became the first community leader to speak out in a BBC interview two years ago.

He is not afraid of raising the issue.

"Although there have been some cases of white men being involved in this sexual exploitation of young girls, most of the perpetrators are Muslim.

"There are some Muslims who think that as long as these sex gangs aren't targeting their own sisters and daughters the issue doesn't affect them... but the vast majority of Muslims find these actions abhorrent and disgusting," he said.

He stresses these are not religiously-motivate
d offences but crimes carried out by men for "their own depraved sexual gratification".

"These people think that white girls have fewer morals and are less valuable than our girls."

Very interesting and illuminating when the leader of a Muslim organisation is prepared to speak out like that.

bangersandmash wrote:

webber26 wrote:
Ha ha is that how you speak to all white girls wheres your respect??

Listen, iam pointing out what i see when i walk down the street, and i do see cars with 4 or 5 young asians shouting out of the windows at them when all they are doing is walking down the street minding there own buisness.If you think that is ok then you have no respect for them, not me?
Imagine if it was the other way around and it was white lads shouting at asian girls,imagine if it was your daughter that was being leered at.

I agree wholeheartedly and if you look on the very first article you will see I have had a simular but not so traumatic experience I just feel that parents should take more responsibility and asking a young gentlemen who clearly had good intentions with his words what colour his sky was and calling his religion is far from helpful but as you say it is your opinion x

women should be respected no matter what they wear, no matter where they are ...no matter what they seem to be,
they are vulnerable from males.
dont take advantage of them or you will feel my fist,my bayonet and a 303 in your head

We all know that "Some" Asians lads out there are idiots

They are Asian trouble makers and they are none respectful

I am a Muslim lad with speaking truth and supporting nobody

These Asian lads needs proper teachings

Aswell as saying this facts there are "some" ladies out there who dont bother about their own respect and i have seen them messing around with Asians lads

My view is that Asians lads are 75% at fault and some woman who messes around with these lads are 25% at fault

well said ghanto

i'm going to be honest hear...i find jack straws comment totally unnecessary simply because there's alot of ignorance and racism towards asians,mainly from english white people (no disrespect) but if i'm too be honest its not like he is lying,he is speaking the upmost truth...but we have to remember the majority of asians are not like that...that's why i think the asians are getting offended by this,because realistically rape and child paedophilia is a bigger problem in the white community...the majority of rapists in this country are white..i see it from both sides

ghanto wrote:
We all know that "Some" Asians lads out there are idiots

They are Asian trouble makers and they are none respectful

I am a Muslim lad with speaking truth and supporting nobody

These Asian lads needs proper teachings

Aswell as saying this facts there are "some" ladies out there who dont bother about their own respect and i have seen them messing around with Asians lads

My view is that Asians lads are 75% at fault and some woman who messes around with these lads are 25% at fault

wel said ghanto this little island nation of ours and yours...needs people like you

Looking through many of the above posts what is striking is the amount which come from the angle of division.
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boys and girls have been coming together for ever, it is only an issue because of the racial difference, thus we can better see that most people without knowing it, more important of course are the consequences of this train of thought, cannot ever come to an agreement.
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The pack mentality and behaviour of certain quarters of the Asian community comes not from their cultural difference as far as homeland goes, what it is is the direct mimicking of the Gangster culture headed by known front man, J Z, and his white counterpart, EMINEM and others.
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Cars full of lads hunting girls and rape are found in the lyrics of many of their biggest stars because they are celebrating a sub culture with drugs as the currency and women as their prize, though they call them not women.
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I would say far from being a racial trait, this type of behaviour is a direct result of the generation most programmed by the glorifying of the gangster superstar, as such we should look again at the extent to which the gangster game has removed morality and respect for anyone outside the money, the drugs, the girls.
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Media, TV, film in general, are promoting this behaviour, it is here from were it has root for the divisive qualities it brings, division means control.
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They want chaos with consent, that they can have order out of chaos, either of which means we the people whatever colour creed of lack of is concerned..... lose lose and lose again....see world history from dot.....

J.C. wrote:
No point commenting on here. Comments just get deleted by the LET PC Brigade!!!!

Imagine if you left all the comments on here LET. You would get a true reflection of what people actually think of Pakistani People.

Please remember that some of us have had first hand experience and dealings with the Pakistani people before you go deleting our valid comments.

Or is this just a one way debate?

Mine went after about an hour,all I said was the truth.
But somthing I forgot to say "it was happening 41 years ago"

we have been dealing with our own perverts for years, we lock them away,
but lets not shy away from the asian thing...and more ,the european thing ,
its your time to come under the microscope and now ..sheeple , people will decide, fair democracy, fair vote,..
the people will decide...not the govenment...we are the government...
the people

Wow! U lot need to chill out... 1) SOME Asian guys are big headed kn**s. 2) girls aged 13 should know the risks of gettin in cars wit strangers... If they dnt wanna they wudnt do it! And 3) SOME asian girls are bigger tramps than us white girls... Not takin sides but why blame a whole race for the actions of a few??? Jus sayin! X

Jacks comments are wrong.

End of the day its how they have been bought up.you see white girls all the time late at night , so obviously SOMEBODY is gona pick themup,when going chippy you even see 8 years olds at midnight.where are the parents???

8 year old girl could go to the chippy in safety, not now...pervs think they is on. the street... why....why now are they not safe..which of you pervs think that they are asking for it..

Because of them comments, pedophiles will believe that vulnerable girls ARE easy meat. Then when they give their statement they would say it was consent.
Jack straw is just a liability to all. He just takes our money. What does he do in return
GIVE RIGHT WING COMMENTS!!!!
He will marching with EDL through Blackburn. He needs to know when to zip it! But do men like him, who are a burden to all, ever SHUT up?

I despair at some of the comments on here. Try to remember (through all the racist and sexist b/s posted here) that young women and children have been seriously damaged by the criminal behaviour of these men. Stop suggesting that these girls were 'asking for it'. No-one has ever suggested that a male victim of robbery was 'asking for it' because he was carrying a wallet.

Now if you really want to make a difference, use your energy to lobby your MP and demand decent sentences when these criminals come to court

listen guys every one getting personal.
we need to get rid of all these type of scum who target the vulnerable.

To be fair, we now know that Jack Straw, the police, social workers and others obviously have been trying to address this, but have not been given the correct back up or so much of it would not be still happening.
When it's kept under wraps but you still see so much of it going on you can't help thinking that no one in authority cares though.
This kind of activity towards children should always be a no no whatever they wear, however they behave, however they dress their hair, and whether or not they are naive enough to be persuaded into a car by a child groomer. And thankfully most men of all cultures wouldn't dream of doing it.
It must now be addressed and we must see these statistics reducing. And longer sentences would get the message across to these men that under age girls are off limits - no more suspended sentences or stints of community service for these types of crime please.
It's also good that awareness is being raised, this too helps parents to protect their children - I for one didn't know it was no longer safe for teenage girls to go to the cinema with their friends in Blackburn!

burnleyvoter wrote:
To be fair, we now know that Jack Straw, the police, social workers and others obviously have been trying to address this, but have not been given the correct back up or so much of it would not be still happening.
When it's kept under wraps but you still see so much of it going on you can't help thinking that no one in authority cares though.
This kind of activity towards children should always be a no no whatever they wear, however they behave, however they dress their hair, and whether or not they are naive enough to be persuaded into a car by a child groomer. And thankfully most men of all cultures wouldn't dream of doing it.
It must now be addressed and we must see these statistics reducing. And longer sentences would get the message across to these men that under age girls are off limits - no more suspended sentences or stints of community service for these types of crime please.
It's also good that awareness is being raised, this too helps parents to protect their children - I for one didn't know it was no longer safe for teenage girls to go to the cinema with their friends in Blackburn!

deportation would reduce the statistics drasticaly and save you ..the tax payers
that little bit that counts...to your lives..
this post will soon be deleted so you dont read it. so dont read it

This is a must watch, I dont dare say anything else or my comment will be deleted and I will be branded a racist for criticizing islam!
http://www.youtube.c
om/watch?v=6BRzhB1Bj
KQ&feature=player_em
bedded

People SHOULD be allowed to speak out against these cases without political correctness or dogooding getting in the way to shut up the voices of concern;thing is,if you don't speak up about it then it will just go on and on undetected-then who is in the wrong the person who speaks out against it or the politically correct people who stay quiet because they fear racism for speaking out?

Like some has said on here....boycott the view cinema

jimmy.p wrote:
Jacks comments are wrong. End of the day its how they have been bought up.you see white girls all the time late at night , so obviously SOMEBODY is gona pick themup,when going chippy you even see 8 years olds at midnight.where are the parents???

Obvious is it? Does that mean you're not adverse to a bit of under-age skirt. on the streets or not, it does not mean they should be targets for these perverts. With people like you in our midst the futures bleak!

Instead of shouting Racism which it is not how about admitting there is a problem and working with the powers to stop it happening . Remember its 'SOME' not all

Greater manchester police have this morning reported that they are looking into white girls aged 12to 15 being plied with alcohol and drugs groomed and sexualy abused by yes you guessed right ASIAN MALES.For the life of me why people are trying to dampen down any racial or cultural motives behind these disgusting crimes is beyond me it is abundently clear what is going on and still asian mps asian community leaders ,asian youth workers and even imans are in complete denial WHY ?.

norfolkngood wrote:
Greater manchester police have this morning reported that they are looking into white girls aged 12to 15 being plied with alcohol and drugs groomed and sexualy abused by yes you guessed right ASIAN MALES.For the life of me why people are trying to dampen down any racial or cultural motives behind these disgusting crimes is beyond me it is abundently clear what is going on and still asian mps asian community leaders ,asian youth workers and even imans are in complete denial WHY ?.

Because while thier males are using these young girls thier own girls are a lot safer, its not rocket science bud.

White girls out at chippy at night are looking to picked up but the problem with asain men is knowing which ones are "UP FOR IT" and which are "NOT" so these asian men don't know which are unitl they shout at every girl to get iin until one eventually does! People see dis and it becomes a monkey see monkey do theology.
So what are going to do about this discuss this until we go on in a spiral effect going to culture,religion,wom
en ,society how about take some action make your daughters aware inform them! check up on them! go to the police! with the men name and shame everyone caught, thougher sentences for these criminals in this sex rings(deportation) of course the asiain community need to do thier part in controlling their kids and be able to find out what they got up 2 last nyte or are they with women and who but this can be difficult as everything is not kept in the open with asian families but we live n we learn. we all got to do our part in taking positive action!!
LETS get back to STRAW why now! wots the point? is he promoting a new iniciative, charity, supportline HELL NO! hes doing out of his own selfishness to get back at the people @ blackburn who he neva liked but needed their votes now he doesn't time for Straw to cause CHAOS and say look without me your nothing! through CHAOS you can create order and power. You don't escpae out of prison without causing a diversion! this is what this goverment do and we fall for it! A SHAME!

Just a theory but when you consider that the centre of the Islamic world is Saudia Arabia, who’s elite are notorious for their lavish life style of fast cars, and wild parties with excessive use of drugs, and white high end call girls, you can see how a poor Pakistani boy would like to aspire to emulate this. It may also contribute to the selective ignorance of certain Imams and community leaders. What I am pretty sure of is that these low life scum won’t exactly go round bragging this in the local mosque, which means that these Imams and community leaders are in the dark like the rest of the police, social services and other care groups.

Yeah i agree they are in the dark over this this also down to the Imams not being educated in western culture or knowing about the young british asian lifestyle so they don' have a clue on how to start helping or making the community more aware maybe this will help but then the police and council will need to inform mosque and imams about this issue and come up with an idea to tackle this. Hopefully things are changing in mosques and changes in Imams are happening and hopefuly more educated in western lifestyle Imams are coming through to help with socail issues such as these. No i dnt think the asians are emulating the SA kings lifestyles more like looking to SCARFACE and movies such as them but the average Jo asain isn't like that we workd hard and try to live life the best way we can!

http://www.bbc.co.uk
/iplayer/episode/b00
xj6mb/Panorama_Too_M
uch_Too_Young/

A factor.

Panorama examines the growing concern about the sexualisation of children in the UK. Sophie Raworth investigates what images young people are being exposed to.

Nine asian men aged 20 to 40 have been arrested in rochdale and heywood this morning on various sex offences against children,maybe the police have got it wrong.

wing commander bomber harris wrote:
Well done Kate Hollern for getting absolutely wrong yet again. Jack mentioned that it was part of a cultural issue, because it is part of a cultural issue. By shouting him down you are brushing the whole problem under the carpet, but this is how you play baby politics anyway. Stop brown nosing for votes and grow a pair!

I agree with you,Kate you are a nothing more than a carpetbagger .Open your eyes to whats going on not just regarding this issue but all the others and then have the courage to be a human being and not just one who wants to exploit the politically correct gravy train which is leading us all into a tunell of desruction.

I suggest you all read and digest the post from cjb/burn. regarding these types of incidents.
Jack Straw has made the comment some Asian men. This does not include all many who are good law abiding citizens.
The bottom line is that young girls are vunerable,the will accept gifts that are not given with the best of intentions. They are then abused by a group of men who have picked these girls up with only one thing in mind.
Plying these girls with drink and or drugs makes them incapable of making the right choice,and in everbodys book that is rape.
This should be stopped right now. The authorities have at last woken up to the problem although many years too late.

Jack straws comments around grooming young girls are in main wrong. There are issues with some pakistani lads but its NOT a cultural issue. The pakistani community needs to take responsibilty around the behaviour of some of their lads. B eing a blackburner born and bread i have seen some of these lads moving from one vice to another. Firstly they started drinking which is against there religion, then drugs and now some of them moved into grooming young girls. Parents and community leaders, imams needs engage with these young men and tackle these issues. The young men have been allowed to get away with it for far too long. i know from my personal experience an infamous pakistani gentlemen living in blackburn boasts of having a gang of 200 pakistani lads to carry out his activities. This is th kind of thing we need to stop. As for jack straws comments either he is naieve in making such comments or more probable he likes to occassionaly make such blunt statements to pander to the parts of the communty without caring about the reprecussions to that community. I repeat this is NOT A CULTURAL ISSUE WITHIN THE PAKISTANI COMMUNIY, ITS SOME PAKISTANI LADS BEHAVING IN A CRIMINAL MANNER. Comments like these from the likes of Jack just brings out the xenophobes who want to attack the minorities and taint us all with the same brush. FACT-the engage team in Blackburn which tackles such issues said that 80% of there work is with other than pakistani men. So please STOP tainting the whole community, its like saying all those catholic bishops caught abusing children means that all catholic priests are peadophiles which is not true. SO JACK STRAW THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU SAY IN THE FUTURE AND TO THE XENOPHOBES WHO HAVE BLOGGED ON THIS SITE GET SOME FACTS CORRECT AND STOP HAVING A GO AT MINORITY COMMUNITIES.

LET Why has my comment been removed from here? it didn't contain any racial critisism - Just new labour- Wankers!

It just surpises me that Blackburn systematically votes for the most completely useless politician. He's so neutral, he doesn't ever manage to put forward a view, and the wording of his statement suggests just that very notion.

A better statement to issue would be that this practice is generally not accepted by any part of our multi-cultural melting pot, and that a specific government agency should take care of it as soon as possible, before racial tension manifests.

The ethos of our democratic Country is to uphold peace and fight against corruption and dictatorship.

The fact that we have opened our borders in the last 12 years to every other Country doesn't mean that when a foreigner arrives in this Country, they live by their own Country's obviously questionable morals, laws and bad parentage. This may have been acceptable practice in their social circle or community, but its not acceptable in wider society, so we must make a point by dealing with it quickly, efficiently, and by advertising the harshness of sentence publicly.