Jack Straw calls for 'more openness' on sex abuse issue (From Lancashire Telegraph)

halfhearted wrote:
The Police and Social Services,have been aware of this type of situation for 4 years ? I can dispute that statement,this type of offence has been going on in East Lancashire for at least 10 years.
My wife worked in a Social Service run 'Childrens Home' for many years,and this type of conduct was going on and being reported.
What action was taken. None !. Young females went missing for days on end having been picked up by Asian taxi drivers.
The authoraties should take a close look at themselves,if action had been taken all those years back,many a young girl could have been protected.
But there again,it takes bottle to set up an operation plus manpower.
I must add that these incidents were not taking part in Blackburn when reported,so I'm unable to comment on the actions of that authority,but it was certainly in Lancashie.

norfolkngood wrote:
Bnp leader nick griffin was hauled before the courts for saying exactly the same things over 2 years ago he was ridiculed branded a rascist and a nazi and now low and behold it would seem mr griffin was right all along if i was him i would be now suing the government for compensation ,the do gooders of this nation and in that i include the police ,mp's,social services,the press and the liberal politicly correct bbc have an awful lot to answer for.

alf-garnett wrote:
No comment needed !

alf-garnett wrote:

alf-garnett wrote:
No comment needed !

Then why comment ?

ibby128 wrote:
Oh yeah and if this was Saudi, Iraq (or any Muslim country), these scum wouldn't be alive right now. BRING BACK CAPITAL PUNISHMENT!!!

chris283 wrote:
why have the LT took ma comment off wat a waste of time no wonder a dont bye the paper

William Wade wrote:
Those comments could be construed as racist. What about these teenage girls? Many of them are far from innocent and you never see Asian grls behaving like that : short skirts, under age drinking and coming onto blokes all the time.

William Wade wrote:
Those comments could be construed as racist. What about these teenage girls? Many of them are far from innocent and you never see Asian grls behaving like that : short skirts, under age drinking and coming onto blokes all the time.

ROBERTSLUMDWELLER wrote:
RE William Wade so do you think what you say makes it ok,,if so your as bad as the people who commit these crimes,

pocketdragon wrote:
So what are we going to do about it? We can sort this out ourselves since the authorities hands are tied, or have we become as spineless as mr straw? I have 2 daughters and its my job to protect them.
On top of tax hikes, pay cuts and massive fuel prices we have to put up with this? And they wonder where the hate comes from. This needs to stop now. And i dont believe for one second im alone in thinking that.

!say wrote:
Old News for those of us that were in our teenage years in the 1980's this was going on then.....Shame nothing's changed!

Slimplynth wrote:
I'll assume any comments i make on this story will be deleted automatically.. so i won't waste my time - well done LET you have succeeded in your mission - self censorship for all.

ibby128 wrote:
Oh yeah and if this was Saudi, Iraq (or any Muslim country), these scum wouldn't be alive right now. BRING BACK CAPITAL PUNISHMENT!!!

Imran786 wrote:
These litlle tarts are slappers they hang around whalley range to get laid where are they parents probably smacked out of thier heads and on King Street.
Wake up

Pinkerbell wrote:
happycyclist, Darwen says...
2:12pm Sat 8 Jan 11
What Straw has said would have earned him disciplinary action in any government department, for racism.

Isn't cynically and deliberately targetting white girls to get them addicted to drugs and therefore to become sex slaves a racist act?

happycyclist wrote:
Oh look, Jack doesn't need the votes any more because this is his last term as an MP, and he finally found his b0llocks after years of just talking b0llocks. You're a spineless lowlife, Straw.

happycyclist wrote:
What Straw has said would have earned him disciplinary action in any government department, for racism.

halfhearted wrote:
The Police and Social Services,have been aware of this type of situation for 4 years ? I can dispute that statement,this type of offence has been going on in East Lancashire for at least 10 years.
My wife worked in a Social Service run 'Childrens Home' for many years,and this type of conduct was going on and being reported.
What action was taken. None !. Young females went missing for days on end having been picked up by Asian taxi drivers.
The authoraties should take a close look at themselves,if action had been taken all those years back,many a young girl could have been protected.
But there again,it takes bottle to set up an operation plus manpower.
I must add that these incidents were not taking part in Blackburn when reported,so I'm unable to comment on the actions of that authority,but it was certainly in Lancashie.

Good call wrote:
Have you noticed when the English Defence League point this sort of thing out they get called racist,facist,Far-ri ght,"islamophobic",N eo-Nazi,violent and that smear isn't working,just look at how many are on the offical edl page on facebook so straw is just saying this to steal the EDL's thunder.Que the screams of "Nazi" from east lancashires pc la-la uaf liberal idiots

whereistedward wrote:

happycyclist wrote:
What Straw has said would have earned him disciplinary action in any government department, for racism.

No it wouldn't as what he said is clearly NOT racist. Read what he ACTUALLY said !
On one hand folk criticise Jack Straw for allegedly 'cosying up' to Pakistanis (majority of Blackburn Asians are actually Indian in origin!) whilst on the the other hand criticise him for criticising SOME Pakistani men !! The poll shows a vast majority of support for what Jack Straw has said !
That's probably why Jack Straw was one of a handful of Labour MP's to actually INCREASE his majority at the last election. That is what many folk commenting cannot seem to grasp - that Jack Straw is an excellent MP for Blackburn.

whereistedward wrote:

Good call wrote: Have you noticed when the English Defence League point this sort of thing out they get called racist,facist,Far-ri ght,"islamophobic",N eo-Nazi,violent and that smear isn't working,just look at how many are on the offical edl page on facebook so straw is just saying this to steal the EDL's thunder.Que the screams of "Nazi" from east lancashires pc la-la uaf liberal idiots

Bad call, good call !! Mrs Cryer the former (Labour) MP for Keighley raised this issue years ago. The police and local councils have been working hard on trying to tackle the issues of exploitation for many years now. Are you calling the police, council officials and Labour MP's racist ? The EDL etc are ionly interested in this issue to stir up race hate.

William Wade wrote:
Those comments could be construed as racist. What about these teenage girls? Many of them are far from innocent and you never see Asian grls behaving like that : short skirts, under age drinking and coming onto blokes all the time.

Imran786 wrote:
These litlle tarts are slappers they hang around whalley range to get laid where are they parents probably smacked out of thier heads and on King Street. Wake up

happycyclist wrote:
What do the young men who are "fizzing and popping with testosterone" and living in Pakistan do for "an outlet" when there are no "white heritage" girls to prey on?

I ask in all seriousness. Is this a culture that has evolved amongst those living in Britain because of opportunity, or is it an attitude that is enshrined in "Pakistani heritage"?

Hugh Jardon wrote:

Imran786 wrote:
These litlle tarts are slappers they hang around whalley range to get laid where are they parents probably smacked out of thier heads and on King Street.
Wake up

so that's alright then..is it?

one imagines that if I said that no white lad would want to shag an ethinic you'd be offended, then?

happycyclist wrote:
What do the young men who are "fizzing and popping with testosterone" and living in Pakistan do for "an outlet" when there are no "white heritage" girls to prey on?

I ask in all seriousness. Is this a culture that has evolved amongst those living in Britain because of opportunity, or is it an attitude that is enshrined in "Pakistani heritage"?

littleme wrote:

Imran786 wrote: These litlle tarts are slappers they hang around whalley range to get laid where are they parents probably smacked out of thier heads and on King Street. Wake up

Read my comment in reply to William Wade Imran!! Maybe you are one of thye filthy animals that prey on these girls? No? How dare I make such a suggestion, well how dare you make a statement like that. Scum.

Imran786 wrote:

littleme wrote:

Imran786 wrote: These litlle tarts are slappers they hang around whalley range to get laid where are they parents probably smacked out of thier heads and on King Street. Wake up

Read my comment in reply to William Wade Imran!! Maybe you are one of thye filthy animals that prey on these girls? No? How dare I make such a suggestion, well how dare you make a statement like that. Scum.

I live in Whalleyrange these so called innocent girls walk up and down from one end to the other and back again just too jump into "FLASHY" cars with lads. I have seen it loads of times its not only white girls its pakistanis, indians and black girls. What was shown on sky news and the sentences should have been more or hang the dirty little $****, most of these so called vulnerable girls know what they are doing. Let me explian i went to a chippy on Whalleyrange a young white girl came in (i am brown) she started to talk to me just being nice the she asked me if i wanted to take her for a ride, i told her where she can go. Most people would take up the offer so blame both parties. The police OVER patrol this area constantly they see these girls going up and down up and down they dont do nothing. Most of the girls dont live around here so what are they doing here at 11 pm and later. ALL YOU POSTERS COME AND CHECK AND YOU WILL SEE FOR YOURSELF. By the way i dont prey on these girls and take no offence thanks i have 2 daughters and yes i understand there are scum out there pakistani pink blue black green yellow etc, what can we do to stop it happening the police will much rather stop cars for no seat belts etc. i meant no offence to anyone by my last post.

jatt76 wrote:
Its funny how the whites come out in force when theres a handfull of pakistani and indian men involved in sexual activitys with under age girls. but they seem to hide when there are priests and bishops who hit the headline every 2 months for pedophilia

jatt76 wrote:

Imran786 wrote:

littleme wrote:

Imran786 wrote: These litlle tarts are slappers they hang around whalley range to get laid where are they parents probably smacked out of thier heads and on King Street. Wake up

Read my comment in reply to William Wade Imran!! Maybe you are one of thye filthy animals that prey on these girls? No? How dare I make such a suggestion, well how dare you make a statement like that. Scum.

I live in Whalleyrange these so called innocent girls walk up and down from one end to the other and back again just too jump into "FLASHY" cars with lads. I have seen it loads of times its not only white girls its pakistanis, indians and black girls. What was shown on sky news and the sentences should have been more or hang the dirty little $****, most of these so called vulnerable girls know what they are doing. Let me explian i went to a chippy on Whalleyrange a young white girl came in (i am brown) she started to talk to me just being nice the she asked me if i wanted to take her for a ride, i told her where she can go. Most people would take up the offer so blame both parties. The police OVER patrol this area constantly they see these girls going up and down up and down they dont do nothing. Most of the girls dont live around here so what are they doing here at 11 pm and later. ALL YOU POSTERS COME AND CHECK AND YOU WILL SEE FOR YOURSELF. By the way i dont prey on these girls and take no offence thanks i have 2 daughters and yes i understand there are scum out there pakistani pink blue black green yellow etc, what can we do to stop it happening the police will much rather stop cars for no seat belts etc. i meant no offence to anyone by my last post.

You tell them blad...the whites need to stop allowing their daughters or nieces to walk up and down whalley range looking for asian men to have sexual intercourse with. i have seen these so called young prostitutes walking up and down whalley range many times on my way into work. The parents need to do more and stop pimping theyr daughters out to pay for theyr bills

ghost of sceptic wrote:
seen this scum riding round round in cars up to no good! my step daughter and her friends were harrased by this scum outside the cinema in blackburn thankfully they had the sense to walk away and called us on the mobile and went back inside to stay safe till we picked them up. i will pull no punches to any of you out there who are involved in this sick perverted practice what goes round comes round you are being watched? as for jack straw your a coward for not speaking out against this which has been going on in blackburn for years just so you could cosy up to the muslim vote! you have left it too late mr straw blackburn is the town that time forgot it is a dying town on the road to ruin and you are one of the main reasons,you have highlighted a problem which is only the tip of the iceberg the born and bred people of blackburn have been ignored at the exspense of your quest for votes. to little to late!ow

ghost of sceptic wrote:

jatt76 wrote: Its funny how the whites come out in force when theres a handfull of pakistani and indian men involved in sexual activitys with under age girls. but they seem to hide when there are priests and bishops who hit the headline every 2 months for pedophilia

who mentioned indian men it is my understanding that these are pakistani men and not indian stop trying to deflect the blame on other races! priests bishops and the above mertioned are all scum when preying on young girls in this way.

Biffa Bacon wrote:

ghost of sceptic wrote:

jatt76 wrote: Its funny how the whites come out in force when theres a handfull of pakistani and indian men involved in sexual activitys with under age girls. but they seem to hide when there are priests and bishops who hit the headline every 2 months for pedophilia

who mentioned indian men it is my understanding that these are pakistani men and not indian stop trying to deflect the blame on other races! priests bishops and the above mertioned are all scum when preying on young girls in this way.

Well said, I have been to India and virtually everyone I met were nice friendly people an epithet that can't be used on Pakistani muslims. Most people in this country are not racist as it is not the race but the individuals that they dislike.
P.S. I dont call 53 out of 56 arrests a "handfull"

Smooth wrote:
Well Jack you have finally said something that all of blackburn and the country sit up and take notice - retirement must be close and then you will take your greasy paws to the house of Lords - LOL. As for making this into a race issue - just follow this link and you will see that scums beget colour or creed: http://www.bbc.co.uk /news/uk-england-cor nwall-11821933 Of course the inbreeding and the incestious BNP and Co will go on bleating about this from a race persepective - if that is their only argument then why do their membership contain people who have shared the same cells as the scum in Derby are now doing. Whats important is this: - How do we protect these vulnerable young people and how do we make sure that those in care are looked after properly and not put in situations where these predators can have access to them? - How do we educate our young people - this requires an honest and open debate and yes some White/pakistani/indi ans/Eastern Europeans etc are potential perpetrators and we must make sure that the Police and Social Services make people aware of these dangerous animals - its not an issue of race but of commonsense. - The community of lancashire needs to cone together and condemn such behaviour but remember not the BNP - their community is already full of these types of perpetrators. Does this mean that next week that Jack will be picking on Gypsies; Darwinians; Poles; and lets not forget the local authority chief exectuives - I think the latter we can ignore afterall Jack and Co made sure their uneducated friends were well greased. Ciao pendajo's

jatt76 wrote:
It is not a case of asian guys looking for white meat..it is a case of white girls looking for asian meat as i have witnessed this happening many many times. these women are trained by theyr mothers to hunt for asian youths to pay for theyr dual fuel bills and for theyr crack cocaine or fathers calsberg cans. its not the asians who go to white areas....its the white girls who go to whalley range and stand on corners like prostitutes preying on the vunreble asian man

webber26 wrote:
How can u possibly deport someone who was born here and is therefore british, studied here paid taxes etc????? Whilst I have had first hand experience of this kind of thing i do not agree with alot of what is being said. I was born in Stoneyholme Burnley now 98 %ethnic area. My father always warned me about young asian me and their lack of respect for young white women. Funny thing is I did not xperience such filth until I moved to Accrington. At 11 years old walking home from my 3rd dday at high school a car pulled up with an asian man telling me he ran an off license and he could give me free cigs and booze, I was petrified and ran home. I called the police and he was charged with a public order offence. Even after this experience I am still inclined to side with Imran and Jatt. Where are the parents carers etc of these girls? Like it or not booze induced pram pushing Britain is the way it is headed. Why do we have so many 15 year pregnant heroin addicted little trogs with work shy attitudes. I hate that asian men view our women as worthless but perhaps before we call other cultures origins or whatever phrase suits we should look at our own culture . I have an 8 year old son and I am dreading him becoming a teenager. I dnt want girls near my son. Teenage girls as a majority are twice as filthy as young white or asian men these days. Sat on a bus full of primary school kids discussing blow jobs and fingering and who got laid last night!! Sounds course doesn't it??? any of u on here with teenage daughters wise up cuz that is what they are discussing on their way home from school. And when they came home an hour late on a Saturday night reaking of booze with an excuse they missed the bus they were geting laid wise up!!!!!!! I anyone is stupid enough to think that making this a race issue can excuse the behaviour of our girls is deluded. Girls have the opportunity to say know to the cars booze designer gear drugs etc if they were brought up to have a little self respect!!! I must stress I in no way condone the behaviour of any1 sleeping ith underage girls, but above the smoke screen of racism when are we goin to start bringing up our daughters instead of dragging them up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

mrengland07 wrote:
As an asian- NOT A PAKISTANI, its a good sign that someone has realised who the bad image of the asian community are. I made this point 2-3 weeks ago on another article that asians come across the same but there is a big difference between indians, pakistani etc and i said pakistanis are the bad image of the asian community because as an indian you can see how rude pakistani are. But obviously people come up with comments like your all the same..go back to ur own country bla bla bla... but at least someone has recognised the root cause and now its out in the open...its the pakistani. i can tell you if there was less pakistanis in Britian the image of asians in britian would be a more positive one.

wing commander bomber harris wrote:

mrengland07 wrote: As an asian- NOT A PAKISTANI, its a good sign that someone has realised who the bad image of the asian community are. I made this point 2-3 weeks ago on another article that asians come across the same but there is a big difference between indians, pakistani etc and i said pakistanis are the bad image of the asian community because as an indian you can see how rude pakistani are. But obviously people come up with comments like your all the same..go back to ur own country bla bla bla... but at least someone has recognised the root cause and now its out in the open...its the pakistani. i can tell you if there was less pakistanis in Britian the image of asians in britian would be a more positive one.

I remember working for a company which had employed a number of people from white, Pakistani and Indian heritage. It was the first time that I had worked with people from another culture and it was amazing the difference between the lack of manners and attitude of the Pakistani’s and how the Indian’s, particularly the Hindus, just got on fine with the white employees. Yes, it’s just one situation, and yes, you cannot base the whole population of India, Bangladesh and Pakistan on this event but it was something which made me realise how different people are.

George Khan wrote:
Oh Mr England you're being groomed to be a chumcha By none other than the fickle Bomber Harris Jack has made a valid point but he has his own agenda He has generalised and maligned not only Pakistanis but Muslims This grooming is no blody good but I'm afraid it's not helped by the girls behaviour Why are they rife for exploitation? Young women at that age should have a notion of self-respect To be wary of weirdos, be it white,black or asian To be openly vulnerable opens the doors for men who seek to molest They need some awareness and education Now Mr England, before you become an apologist White folk down in areas of Mill Hill and Roman Road will see you, because of Jack, as one of them So distance yourself too much because they won't give a sh.. There's good and bad in every community, it's easy for politicians, for publicity,to cause mayhem One more thing putters, It's not only young girls that are being groomed Bomber Harris and RK regularly stalk the streets of Whalley Range Bowing before Bearded Mullahs to be taken down an alley way or dark room They plead for their walking manner to be rearranged And they shout, 'Long Live Pakistan, Pakistan Zindabad!' With walking sticks hitched up their rear ends, they hop around the Range like kangaroos Now, they're on a high, for them it's not that bad Mr England, if you want, you can try it too, you got nothing to lose

wing commander bomber harris wrote:
mrengland...... georgekhan. george....... mrengland. How ya doing george? Wondered where you where. Figured all the bad press would have kept you quiet, keeping your little head down huh? Nice to see that you are trying to suppress others opinions already. mr england, george is a make believe character from east is east film who lives in a world of his own "Why are they rife for exploitation?" It's because the slimeballs are picking up young girls from troubled homes, from care hostels, from places where these kids have problems. These so called men are vultures, preying on the weak. All societies have their failures, it seems that yours are preying on ours. P.S. went to visit your bearded mullahs last night but they had been arrested by the GMP, can't think what for!!

mrengland07 wrote:

wing commander bomber harris wrote: mrengland...... georgekhan. george....... mrengland. How ya doing george? Wondered where you where. Figured all the bad press would have kept you quiet, keeping your little head down huh? Nice to see that you are trying to suppress others opinions already. mr england, george is a make believe character from east is east film who lives in a world of his own "Why are they rife for exploitation?" It's because the slimeballs are picking up young girls from troubled homes, from care hostels, from places where these kids have problems. These so called men are vultures, preying on the weak. All societies have their failures, it seems that yours are preying on ours. P.S. went to visit your bearded mullahs last night but they had been arrested by the GMP, can't think what for!!

Can i ask when you say ''it seems that yours are preying on ours'' who you are refering to

George Khan wrote:
Oh Mr England you're being groomed to be a chumcha By none other than the fickle Bomber Harris Jack has made a valid point but he has his own agenda He has generalised and maligned not only Pakistanis but Muslims This grooming is no blody good but I'm afraid it's not helped by the girls behaviour Why are they rife for exploitation? Young women at that age should have a notion of self-respect To be wary of weirdos, be it white,black or asian To be openly vulnerable opens the doors for men who seek to molest They need some awareness and education Now Mr England, before you become an apologist White folk down in areas of Mill Hill and Roman Road will see you, because of Jack, as one of them So distance yourself too much because they won't give a sh.. There's good and bad in every community, it's easy for politicians, for publicity,to cause mayhem One more thing putters, It's not only young girls that are being groomed Bomber Harris and RK regularly stalk the streets of Whalley Range Bowing before Bearded Mullahs to be taken down an alley way or dark room They plead for their walking manner to be rearranged And they shout, 'Long Live Pakistan, Pakistan Zindabad!' With walking sticks hitched up their rear ends, they hop around the Range like kangaroos Now, they're on a high, for them it's not that bad Mr England, if you want, you can try it too, you got nothing to lose

mrengland07 wrote:
As an asian- NOT A PAKISTANI, its a good sign that someone has realised who the bad image of the asian community are. I made this point 2-3 weeks ago on another article that asians come across the same but there is a big difference between indians, pakistani etc and i said pakistanis are the bad image of the asian community because as an indian you can see how rude pakistani are. But obviously people come up with comments like your all the same..go back to ur own country bla bla bla... but at least someone has recognised the root cause and now its out in the open...its the pakistani. i can tell you if there was less pakistanis in Britian the image of asians in britian would be a more positive one.

George Khan wrote:
Oh putters me ol' putters just getting ready for the evening shift at the chippy I see the usual suspects are back in print Trying their best at humour and being lippy If you spuds had read my post you'd find that I've acknowledged the fringe No, not my thick glorious hair,but the minority Who partake in these shameful pursuit But, putters, you have to remember even the Judge at the trial in Derby Went out of his way to say that this was not secluded to an ethnic group It's bound to get more media attention when there's reference to the word pakistani Jack knew the consequence that the public will make a correlation with Muslims Why has Jack's botty been smacked in the national press His comments reeks of a publicity stunt, not a genuine concern for the victims As he will be standing down, he's maybe airing his personal views, let's not digress Where were these comments when he needed the votes of the Pakistanis He's as fickle as they come, even more so than the likes of Bomber Harris So putters Bomber and the fat little bald chap in his flat cap, RK I assume you're getting ready for the evening shift too Are we planning to visit Whalley Range Remember when you bow down in front of Mullahs they don't know what to do That's why they stick their walking sticks 'up there' because they think you're deranged Now Mr England wants to be anointed and touch his toes Well, chumcha that he is, he might get more than he bargained for RK and Bomber are old hands at this, can the novice bear the force? If we see three Kangaroos hopping around the range tonight, we'll know

Imran786 wrote:
These litlle tarts are slappers they hang around whalley range to get laid where are they parents probably smacked out of thier heads and on King Street.
Wake up