Jack Straw calls for 'more openness' on sex abuse issue

8:36am Saturday 8th January 2011 in Keep Them Safe campaign

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BLACKBURN MP Jack Straw has accused some Pakistani men in Britain of seeing white girls as 'easy meat' for sexual abuse.

The Blackburn MP talked of a 'specific problem' involving Pakistani men and called on the community to be 'more open' about the issue.

He was speaking after two Asian men who subjected a series of vulnerable girls to rapes and sexual assaults were given indefinite jail terms.

Abid Mohammed Saddique, 27, was jailed for a minimum of 11 years at Nottingham Crown Court and Mohammed Romaan Liaqat, 28, was told he must serve at least eight years before being considered for release.

The men were the prime movers in a group of men who befriended girls aged from 12 to 18 in the Derby area and groomed them for sex.

In Blackburn, police and social services have been aware of similar problems for four years, running a Operation Engage to tackle the problem.

Back in 2006, the Lancashire Telegraph was the first paper to uncover the issue after the Keep Them Safe investigation and subsequent campaign.

But, despite the work, Mr Straw told the BBC's Newsnight programme: "Pakistanis, let's be clear, are not the only people who commit sexual offences, and overwhelmingly the sex offenders' wings of prisons are full of white sex offenders.

"But there is a specific problem which involves Pakistani heritage men... who target vulnerable young white girls.

"We need to get the Pakistani community to think much more clearly about why this is going on and to be more open about the problems that are leading to a number of Pakistani heritage men thinking it is OK to target white girls in this way."

The judge said he did not believe the crimes were 'racially aggravated', but Mr Straw said he thought vulnerable white girls were at risk of being targeted by some Asian men.

"These young men are in a western society, in any event, they act like any other young men, they're fizzing and popping with testosterone, they want some outlet for that, but Pakistani heritage girls are off-limits and they are expected to marry a Pakistani girl from Pakistan, typically," he said.

"So they then seek other avenues and they see these young women, white girls who are vulnerable, some of them in care... who they think are easy meat.

"And because they're vulnerable they ply them with gifts, they give them drugs, and then of course they're trapped."

Yesterday's sentencing came a day after Prime Minister David Cameron said 'cultural sensitivities' should not hinder police action in such cases.

Thirteen men were charged in relation to Operation Retriever, which Derbyshire Police set up, and 11 stood trial charged with offences relating to 26 alleged victims.

Comments (115)

8:44am Sat 8 Jan 11

Slimplynth says...

I'll assume any comments i make on this story will be deleted automatically.. so i won't waste my time - well done LET you have succeeded in your mission - self censorship for all.
I'll assume any comments i make on this story will be deleted automatically.. so i won't waste my time - well done LET you have succeeded in your mission - self censorship for all. Slimplynth

8:49am Sat 8 Jan 11

happycyclist says...

Oh look, Jack doesn't need the votes any more because this is his last term as an MP, and he finally found his b0llocks after years of just talking b0llocks.
You're a spineless lowlife, Straw.
Oh look, Jack doesn't need the votes any more because this is his last term as an MP, and he finally found his b0llocks after years of just talking b0llocks. You're a spineless lowlife, Straw. happycyclist

8:51am Sat 8 Jan 11

onlyonesimongarner says...

Oh Jack, what have you said!!!!!
and why has it taken you so long to say out loud what we have all known for a long time.
Must be planning to step down at the next Election then?????
Oh Jack, what have you said!!!!! and why has it taken you so long to say out loud what we have all known for a long time. Must be planning to step down at the next Election then????? onlyonesimongarner

9:14am Sat 8 Jan 11

britguy says...

How long was Jack Straw in office and what posts did he hold.
What a useless waste of space this guy is.
Jackie you didnt have the guts to speak out in all the years you sucked up to the Muslim vote so dont start preaching now.
How long was Jack Straw in office and what posts did he hold. What a useless waste of space this guy is. Jackie you didnt have the guts to speak out in all the years you sucked up to the Muslim vote so dont start preaching now. britguy

9:19am Sat 8 Jan 11

madari says...

Madari the snake charmer says:

Mulla where are you?

Straw you want to be ashamed of yourself,this problem has been going on for years on Whalley Range,why make a comment on it now?(after the damage has been done).

Go on Whalley range any Friday/saturday evening and you will see young white teenage girls as if loitring for the purpose of prostitution,they stand out a mile in a predominently asian area of town.

Cant be that difficult to remove them from an area where they obviously dont live at.
Madari the snake charmer says: Mulla where are you? Straw you want to be ashamed of yourself,this problem has been going on for years on Whalley Range,why make a comment on it now?(after the damage has been done). Go on Whalley range any Friday/saturday evening and you will see young white teenage girls as if loitring for the purpose of prostitution,they stand out a mile in a predominently asian area of town. Cant be that difficult to remove them from an area where they obviously dont live at. madari

10:02am Sat 8 Jan 11

norfolkngood says...

Bnp leader nick griffin was hauled before the courts for saying exactly the same things over 2 years ago he was ridiculed branded a rascist and a nazi and now low and behold it would seem mr griffin was right all along if i was him i would be now suing the government for compensation ,the do gooders of this nation and in that i include the police ,mp's,social services,the press and the liberal politicly correct bbc have an awful lot to answer for.
Bnp leader nick griffin was hauled before the courts for saying exactly the same things over 2 years ago he was ridiculed branded a rascist and a nazi and now low and behold it would seem mr griffin was right all along if i was him i would be now suing the government for compensation ,the do gooders of this nation and in that i include the police ,mp's,social services,the press and the liberal politicly correct bbc have an awful lot to answer for. norfolkngood

10:50am Sat 8 Jan 11

halfhearted says...

The Police and Social Services,have been aware of this type of situation for 4 years ? I can dispute that statement,this type of offence has been going on in East Lancashire for at least 10 years.
My wife worked in a Social Service run 'Childrens Home' for many years,and this type of conduct was going on and being reported.
What action was taken. None !. Young females went missing for days on end having been picked up by Asian taxi drivers.
The authoraties should take a close look at themselves,if action had been taken all those years back,many a young girl could have been protected.
But there again,it takes bottle to set up an operation plus manpower.
I must add that these incidents were not taking part in Blackburn when reported,so I'm unable to comment on the actions of that authority,but it was certainly in Lancashie.
The Police and Social Services,have been aware of this type of situation for 4 years ? I can dispute that statement,this type of offence has been going on in East Lancashire for at least 10 years. My wife worked in a Social Service run 'Childrens Home' for many years,and this type of conduct was going on and being reported. What action was taken. None !. Young females went missing for days on end having been picked up by Asian taxi drivers. The authoraties should take a close look at themselves,if action had been taken all those years back,many a young girl could have been protected. But there again,it takes bottle to set up an operation plus manpower. I must add that these incidents were not taking part in Blackburn when reported,so I'm unable to comment on the actions of that authority,but it was certainly in Lancashie. halfhearted

11:00am Sat 8 Jan 11

Common_Sense1 says...

halfhearted wrote:
The Police and Social Services,have been aware of this type of situation for 4 years ? I can dispute that statement,this type of offence has been going on in East Lancashire for at least 10 years.
My wife worked in a Social Service run 'Childrens Home' for many years,and this type of conduct was going on and being reported.
What action was taken. None !. Young females went missing for days on end having been picked up by Asian taxi drivers.
The authoraties should take a close look at themselves,if action had been taken all those years back,many a young girl could have been protected.
But there again,it takes bottle to set up an operation plus manpower.
I must add that these incidents were not taking part in Blackburn when reported,so I'm unable to comment on the actions of that authority,but it was certainly in Lancashie.
Maybe those working for social services should have tackled the root causes in the childrens home to stop the problems. I wouldn't be too quick to blame the other authorities, like the Police, who need the co-operation of the young girls to bring any prosecution. We all know there has been a problem with Asian men driving round east Lancashire looking for White girls to prey on but only now does it make the papers. Jack Straw obviously doesn't need the votes now so can finally speak the truth.
[quote][p][bold]halfhearted[/bold] wrote: The Police and Social Services,have been aware of this type of situation for 4 years ? I can dispute that statement,this type of offence has been going on in East Lancashire for at least 10 years. My wife worked in a Social Service run 'Childrens Home' for many years,and this type of conduct was going on and being reported. What action was taken. None !. Young females went missing for days on end having been picked up by Asian taxi drivers. The authoraties should take a close look at themselves,if action had been taken all those years back,many a young girl could have been protected. But there again,it takes bottle to set up an operation plus manpower. I must add that these incidents were not taking part in Blackburn when reported,so I'm unable to comment on the actions of that authority,but it was certainly in Lancashie.[/p][/quote]Maybe those working for social services should have tackled the root causes in the childrens home to stop the problems. I wouldn't be too quick to blame the other authorities, like the Police, who need the co-operation of the young girls to bring any prosecution. We all know there has been a problem with Asian men driving round east Lancashire looking for White girls to prey on but only now does it make the papers. Jack Straw obviously doesn't need the votes now so can finally speak the truth. Common_Sense1

11:19am Sat 8 Jan 11

ibby128 says...

Oh yeah and if this was Saudi, Iraq (or any Muslim country), these scum wouldn't be alive right now. BRING BACK CAPITAL PUNISHMENT!!!
Oh yeah and if this was Saudi, Iraq (or any Muslim country), these scum wouldn't be alive right now. BRING BACK CAPITAL PUNISHMENT!!! ibby128

11:19am Sat 8 Jan 11

alfa111 says...

To little to late why cant these peaple make such comments when it is most needed to many young white peaple have had to suffer while police /mps have been quite on this issue in the past years ,i myself have seen first hand some of this abuse some years go and have reported this to police but it seems like the issue has been smoke screened to keep race relations calm,
To little to late why cant these peaple make such comments when it is most needed to many young white peaple have had to suffer while police /mps have been quite on this issue in the past years ,i myself have seen first hand some of this abuse some years go and have reported this to police but it seems like the issue has been smoke screened to keep race relations calm, alfa111

11:31am Sat 8 Jan 11

chris283 says...

Its a dissgrace me and my 15 yr old step-daughter were walkin through nelson goin to the bus stop when 4 asian men shouted sexual abuse at her when they were drivin past we seen the same freeks 10 mins early but they wouldnt say anythin when the car was stationary if you give them a good kick in you would get nicked for it my step daughter wants to move from the area but why should we just because of some perverts wat is it with these animals wanting to chat young girls up freeks if u report it to the police they would do anythin and y did jack straw go on about it now only cause hes not in power bit late pal
Its a dissgrace me and my 15 yr old step-daughter were walkin through nelson goin to the bus stop when 4 asian men shouted sexual abuse at her when they were drivin past we seen the same freeks 10 mins early but they wouldnt say anythin when the car was stationary if you give them a good kick in you would get nicked for it my step daughter wants to move from the area but why should we just because of some perverts wat is it with these animals wanting to chat young girls up freeks if u report it to the police they would do anythin and y did jack straw go on about it now only cause hes not in power bit late pal chris283

11:33am Sat 8 Jan 11

chappyhappyness says...

norfolkngood wrote:
Bnp leader nick griffin was hauled before the courts for saying exactly the same things over 2 years ago he was ridiculed branded a rascist and a nazi and now low and behold it would seem mr griffin was right all along if i was him i would be now suing the government for compensation ,the do gooders of this nation and in that i include the police ,mp's,social services,the press and the liberal politicly correct bbc have an awful lot to answer for.
will Mr Straw be treated in the same way as Mr Griffin ?
Mr Griffin is one of the few people who is wailing to say what he thinks, and should be commended for that fact only.
He doesn't seek to hide from awkward topics.
[quote][p][bold]norfolkngood[/bold] wrote: Bnp leader nick griffin was hauled before the courts for saying exactly the same things over 2 years ago he was ridiculed branded a rascist and a nazi and now low and behold it would seem mr griffin was right all along if i was him i would be now suing the government for compensation ,the do gooders of this nation and in that i include the police ,mp's,social services,the press and the liberal politicly correct bbc have an awful lot to answer for.[/p][/quote]will Mr Straw be treated in the same way as Mr Griffin ? Mr Griffin is one of the few people who is wailing to say what he thinks, and should be commended for that fact only. He doesn't seek to hide from awkward topics. chappyhappyness

11:33am Sat 8 Jan 11

alf-garnett says...

No comment needed !
No comment needed ! alf-garnett

11:34am Sat 8 Jan 11

alf-garnett says...

alf-garnett wrote:
No comment needed !
Then why comment ?
[quote][p][bold]alf-garnett[/bold] wrote: No comment needed ![/p][/quote]Then why comment ? alf-garnett

11:35am Sat 8 Jan 11

alf-garnett says...

alf-garnett wrote:
alf-garnett wrote:
No comment needed !
Then why comment ?
Hmmm? Good point !
[quote][p][bold]alf-garnett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alf-garnett[/bold] wrote: No comment needed ![/p][/quote]Then why comment ?[/p][/quote]Hmmm? Good point ! alf-garnett

12:02pm Sat 8 Jan 11

chris283 says...

why have the LT took ma comment off wat a waste of time no wonder a dont bye the paper
why have the LT took ma comment off wat a waste of time no wonder a dont bye the paper chris283

12:09pm Sat 8 Jan 11

Chris P Bacon says...

ibby128 wrote:
Oh yeah and if this was Saudi, Iraq (or any Muslim country), these scum wouldn't be alive right now. BRING BACK CAPITAL PUNISHMENT!!!
If you want our nation to ally itself with regimes run in some of the world's most oppressive regimes as that of those you mention, then you are seriously deluded. If you believe these countries are run on a fairer and more equitable basis that that of the UK, then I suggest you go and live in one of them.
[quote][p][bold]ibby128[/bold] wrote: Oh yeah and if this was Saudi, Iraq (or any Muslim country), these scum wouldn't be alive right now. BRING BACK CAPITAL PUNISHMENT!!![/p][/quote]If you want our nation to ally itself with regimes run in some of the world's most oppressive regimes as that of those you mention, then you are seriously deluded. If you believe these countries are run on a fairer and more equitable basis that that of the UK, then I suggest you go and live in one of them. Chris P Bacon

12:20pm Sat 8 Jan 11

halfhearted says...

Common-sense,I would agree with you to a point. Those working for the Social Services,brought the matter to the attention of the Senior Management, and indeed the Police,who were regular visitors to the premises as these young girls were reported as missing from home.
The choice not to act was made by the Social Services,and I presume the Police who for some reason unknown to me may not have passed on the information available.
There was a culture of not reporting young persons conduct to the Police,by certain managers as they did not wish it to be seen that the system was failing,and young persons entering their homes with a previous good character leaving with a criminal conviction.
Although staff were aware of the conduct of some of these young girls they were unable to contain them in the home and could only make a complaint to the Police which they did.
Common-sense,I would agree with you to a point. Those working for the Social Services,brought the matter to the attention of the Senior Management, and indeed the Police,who were regular visitors to the premises as these young girls were reported as missing from home. The choice not to act was made by the Social Services,and I presume the Police who for some reason unknown to me may not have passed on the information available. There was a culture of not reporting young persons conduct to the Police,by certain managers as they did not wish it to be seen that the system was failing,and young persons entering their homes with a previous good character leaving with a criminal conviction. Although staff were aware of the conduct of some of these young girls they were unable to contain them in the home and could only make a complaint to the Police which they did. halfhearted

12:54pm Sat 8 Jan 11

Michael@ClitheroeSince58 says...

chris283 wrote:
why have the LT took ma comment off wat a waste of time no wonder a dont bye the paper
Chris Don't take it personal, if anyone clicks on report a post, it gets removed.
I actually don't think who ever moderates actually reads the posts they just remove it anyway.
[quote][p][bold]chris283[/bold] wrote: why have the LT took ma comment off wat a waste of time no wonder a dont bye the paper[/p][/quote]Chris Don't take it personal, if anyone clicks on report a post, it gets removed. I actually don't think who ever moderates actually reads the posts they just remove it anyway. Michael@ClitheroeSince58

1:07pm Sat 8 Jan 11

William Wade says...

Those comments could be construed as racist. What about these teenage girls? Many of them are far from innocent and you never see Asian grls behaving like that : short skirts, under age drinking and coming onto blokes all the time.
Those comments could be construed as racist. What about these teenage girls? Many of them are far from innocent and you never see Asian grls behaving like that : short skirts, under age drinking and coming onto blokes all the time. William Wade

1:20pm Sat 8 Jan 11

stuxnet says...

its not just the moslems doing these vile crimes to our children...the eu migrants are adding to the problems with their own grooming and sexual abuse of our children in blackburns banktop area.
some of these girls are as young as twelve. its open season on young british girls and boys....and women.
its not just the moslems doing these vile crimes to our children...the eu migrants are adding to the problems with their own grooming and sexual abuse of our children in blackburns banktop area. some of these girls are as young as twelve. its open season on young british girls and boys....and women. stuxnet

1:22pm Sat 8 Jan 11

berniep says...

Everybody has a right to an opinion & mine is that you Mr wade are as bad as the Pakistani,s that share your blinkered and disrespectful veiw of white girls.
Everybody has a right to an opinion & mine is that you Mr wade are as bad as the Pakistani,s that share your blinkered and disrespectful veiw of white girls. berniep

1:51pm Sat 8 Jan 11

Nelson Old Boy says...

Mr Straw you have known about this problem for years even when you were in office and what did you do? sweet F/A now that you are not in office god as seen fit to give you some balls what a waste! hang your head in shame you are a disgrace and should resign
Mr Straw you have known about this problem for years even when you were in office and what did you do? sweet F/A now that you are not in office god as seen fit to give you some balls what a waste! hang your head in shame you are a disgrace and should resign Nelson Old Boy

1:51pm Sat 8 Jan 11

Wishingwell says...

How can I possibly answer this poll without it looking like I might have some respect for Jack Straw?

For a quite a few years nobody with a job anywhere near the public sector dare say anything like this without being branded a "Racist".

Lets hope they get their justice in Jail.
How can I possibly answer this poll without it looking like I might have some respect for Jack Straw? For a quite a few years nobody with a job anywhere near the public sector dare say anything like this without being branded a "Racist". Lets hope they get their justice in Jail. Wishingwell

2:12pm Sat 8 Jan 11

happycyclist says...

What Straw has said would have earned him disciplinary action in any government department, for racism.
What Straw has said would have earned him disciplinary action in any government department, for racism. happycyclist

2:30pm Sat 8 Jan 11

moggy669 says...

Wayhayyyy, thanks for the info jack but weve known this for YEARS!
why didnt you do something about it when you had the power?
Because your a spineless criminal, thats why.
Get back under your rock you useless waste of space.
Wayhayyyy, thanks for the info jack but weve known this for YEARS! why didnt you do something about it when you had the power? Because your a spineless criminal, thats why. Get back under your rock you useless waste of space. moggy669

2:35pm Sat 8 Jan 11

pumagirl says...

William Wade wrote:
Those comments could be construed as racist. What about these teenage girls? Many of them are far from innocent and you never see Asian grls behaving like that : short skirts, under age drinking and coming onto blokes all the time.
Maybe because the muslims make sure their women folk are suppressed, so they have little chance of becoming westernised.
[quote][p][bold]William Wade[/bold] wrote: Those comments could be construed as racist. What about these teenage girls? Many of them are far from innocent and you never see Asian grls behaving like that : short skirts, under age drinking and coming onto blokes all the time.[/p][/quote]Maybe because the muslims make sure their women folk are suppressed, so they have little chance of becoming westernised. pumagirl

2:39pm Sat 8 Jan 11

jack the straw donkey says...

tut tut jack . why you now trying to bite the hand thats fed you all these years ?
tut tut jack . why you now trying to bite the hand thats fed you all these years ? jack the straw donkey

2:43pm Sat 8 Jan 11

time.team says...

Jack Straw, who‘s he?
The sewer from a disgraced political party just as the above comments show!
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But did YOU vote for him and if so why? and will you be doing so again?
Jack Straw, who‘s he? The sewer from a disgraced political party just as the above comments show! - But did YOU vote for him and if so why? and will you be doing so again? time.team

2:43pm Sat 8 Jan 11

moggy669 says...

William Wade wrote:
Those comments could be construed as racist. What about these teenage girls? Many of them are far from innocent and you never see Asian grls behaving like that : short skirts, under age drinking and coming onto blokes all the time.
Just because they are allowed some freedom to live their lives a bit doesnt mean its ok for these disgusting pieces of scum to take advantage, which they do i suppose because of their own inadequacies.
It sounds like you condone it? Filth.
[quote][p][bold]William Wade[/bold] wrote: Those comments could be construed as racist. What about these teenage girls? Many of them are far from innocent and you never see Asian grls behaving like that : short skirts, under age drinking and coming onto blokes all the time.[/p][/quote]Just because they are allowed some freedom to live their lives a bit doesnt mean its ok for these disgusting pieces of scum to take advantage, which they do i suppose because of their own inadequacies. It sounds like you condone it? Filth. moggy669

2:59pm Sat 8 Jan 11

ewoodpark says...

Jack you are full of sh*t...you've know about this crap for years but yet you wait until leading police officers speak out and you jump on the band waggon, you are a moron, talk about closing the stable door after the horse has bolted..what about all the young girls that have been abused to date? the likes of charlene Downs from blackpool...do you even give a t*ss about those girl....i'll answer that for you and thats a big NO! you dont...after all they are'nt old enough to vote...you make me sick.....NS
Jack you are full of sh*t...you've know about this crap for years but yet you wait until leading police officers speak out and you jump on the band waggon, you are a moron, talk about closing the stable door after the horse has bolted..what about all the young girls that have been abused to date? the likes of charlene Downs from blackpool...do you even give a t*ss about those girl....i'll answer that for you and thats a big NO! you dont...after all they are'nt old enough to vote...you make me sick.....NS ewoodpark

3:06pm Sat 8 Jan 11

mick-dorset says...

my word you've changed your tune haven't you jack, when thist first came out you were insisting that it was just a bnp lie, now you are saying there is a problem, it could be argued that your refusal to acknowledge the problem initially has led to more children being abused because you assured the people of the community that it wasn't happening so they had nothing to worry about
my word you've changed your tune haven't you jack, when thist first came out you were insisting that it was just a bnp lie, now you are saying there is a problem, it could be argued that your refusal to acknowledge the problem initially has led to more children being abused because you assured the people of the community that it wasn't happening so they had nothing to worry about mick-dorset

3:43pm Sat 8 Jan 11

ROBERTSLUMDWELLER says...

RE brf crules/blackburn you say that in the muslim faith everybody is equal,,does that include the victims of 9/11 or 7/7 or the christian church goers blown to bits or the christian woman who is waiting to get hung for blasphemy in pakistan,when its ok for muslims to treat the christians as they please,
RE brf crules/blackburn you say that in the muslim faith everybody is equal,,does that include the victims of 9/11 or 7/7 or the christian church goers blown to bits or the christian woman who is waiting to get hung for blasphemy in pakistan,when its ok for muslims to treat the christians as they please, ROBERTSLUMDWELLER

3:46pm Sat 8 Jan 11

ROBERTSLUMDWELLER says...

RE William Wade so do you think what you say makes it ok,,if so your as bad as the people who commit these crimes,
RE William Wade so do you think what you say makes it ok,,if so your as bad as the people who commit these crimes, ROBERTSLUMDWELLER

3:52pm Sat 8 Jan 11

ewoodpark says...

ROBERTSLUMDWELLER wrote:
RE William Wade so do you think what you say makes it ok,,if so your as bad as the people who commit these crimes,
well said robert...what we have to tolerate it because we live in a free world?
[quote][p][bold]ROBERTSLUMDWELLER[/bold] wrote: RE William Wade so do you think what you say makes it ok,,if so your as bad as the people who commit these crimes,[/p][/quote]well said robert...what we have to tolerate it because we live in a free world? ewoodpark

4:37pm Sat 8 Jan 11

pocketdragon says...

So what are we going to do about it? We can sort this out ourselves since the authorities hands are tied, or have we become as spineless as mr straw? I have 2 daughters and its my job to protect them.
On top of tax hikes, pay cuts and massive fuel prices we have to put up with this? And they wonder where the hate comes from. This needs to stop now. And i dont believe for one second im alone in thinking that.
So what are we going to do about it? We can sort this out ourselves since the authorities hands are tied, or have we become as spineless as mr straw? I have 2 daughters and its my job to protect them. On top of tax hikes, pay cuts and massive fuel prices we have to put up with this? And they wonder where the hate comes from. This needs to stop now. And i dont believe for one second im alone in thinking that. pocketdragon

4:39pm Sat 8 Jan 11

pocketdragon says...

pocketdragon wrote:
So what are we going to do about it? We can sort this out ourselves since the authorities hands are tied, or have we become as spineless as mr straw? I have 2 daughters and its my job to protect them.
On top of tax hikes, pay cuts and massive fuel prices we have to put up with this? And they wonder where the hate comes from. This needs to stop now. And i dont believe for one second im alone in thinking that.
And the comment about indians was spot on, they are completely different to pakistanis.
[quote][p][bold]pocketdragon[/bold] wrote: So what are we going to do about it? We can sort this out ourselves since the authorities hands are tied, or have we become as spineless as mr straw? I have 2 daughters and its my job to protect them. On top of tax hikes, pay cuts and massive fuel prices we have to put up with this? And they wonder where the hate comes from. This needs to stop now. And i dont believe for one second im alone in thinking that.[/p][/quote]And the comment about indians was spot on, they are completely different to pakistanis. pocketdragon

5:04pm Sat 8 Jan 11

!say says...

Old News for those of us that were in our teenage years in the 1980's this was going on then.....Shame nothing's changed!
Old News for those of us that were in our teenage years in the 1980's this was going on then.....Shame nothing's changed! !say

5:14pm Sat 8 Jan 11

Hugh Jardon says...

!say wrote:
Old News for those of us that were in our teenage years in the 1980's this was going on then.....Shame nothing's changed!
Bang on the money there.
Let's be honest though...it was assumed that some of the girls involved were 'Parky Sharggers"..
The proximity of Notre Dame school to an area full of dusky skinned people soon changed that idea. The amount of scum hanging around in cars made it plain that something was amiss!

IF these girls only knew how much they are despised by their 'boyfriends'..perhap
s (just perhaps) things would change.

Straw must have been aware of this..but was far too craven to say anything then...
[quote][p][bold]!say[/bold] wrote: Old News for those of us that were in our teenage years in the 1980's this was going on then.....Shame nothing's changed![/p][/quote]Bang on the money there. Let's be honest though...it was assumed that some of the girls involved were 'Parky Sharggers".. The proximity of Notre Dame school to an area full of dusky skinned people soon changed that idea. The amount of scum hanging around in cars made it plain that something was amiss! IF these girls only knew how much they are despised by their 'boyfriends'..perhap s (just perhaps) things would change. Straw must have been aware of this..but was far too craven to say anything then... Hugh Jardon

5:27pm Sat 8 Jan 11

time.team says...

YOUR VOTE? - What a silly way to hold a count with only the two options.
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Do you agree with Jack Straw's comments?
Yes
No
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Neither Yes or No would be my vote because Jack Straw has done very little in the past against this so neither Yes or No would be my vote.
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Like Blackburn’s street sex industry nothing ever seems to be done does it!
YOUR VOTE? - What a silly way to hold a count with only the two options. - Do you agree with Jack Straw's comments? Yes No - Neither Yes or No would be my vote because Jack Straw has done very little in the past against this so neither Yes or No would be my vote. - Like Blackburn’s street sex industry nothing ever seems to be done does it! time.team

5:49pm Sat 8 Jan 11

Dave_P says...

Slimplynth wrote:
I'll assume any comments i make on this story will be deleted automatically.. so i won't waste my time - well done LET you have succeeded in your mission - self censorship for all.
well you weren't wrong, my comment was removed and wasn't racist or offensive in my opinion..
what happened to freedom of speech?
[quote][p][bold]Slimplynth[/bold] wrote: I'll assume any comments i make on this story will be deleted automatically.. so i won't waste my time - well done LET you have succeeded in your mission - self censorship for all.[/p][/quote]well you weren't wrong, my comment was removed and wasn't racist or offensive in my opinion.. what happened to freedom of speech? Dave_P

6:00pm Sat 8 Jan 11

annefromlancs says...

You are so right. I was one of those teenagers in Blackburn in the 1980s and there were 'no go areas' for white girls even then. Where were you then Jack? You kept your mouth shut because you needed the votes to keep you in your cushy job.
You are so right. I was one of those teenagers in Blackburn in the 1980s and there were 'no go areas' for white girls even then. Where were you then Jack? You kept your mouth shut because you needed the votes to keep you in your cushy job. annefromlancs

6:16pm Sat 8 Jan 11

Gobbin says...

I was in hospital in Rawtenstall in 1960. In the next bed was one of our Aisian friends. He told me that the ultimate goal of ALL of his male friends of all ages was to "sleep" with a white girl preferably under 16.
The brown girls were taboo. It's gone on eversince the invasion and will untill the white people
get (If ever) their fingers out.
It must also be remembered that some white girls "canvas" the rampant asian brotherhood for favours including booze and drugs. Hence Mr Straws "easy meat" remark. My observations over some 40 years is that it has been going on openly ever since the invasion and ALL the relevant authorities knew/know about it and take the "anything for a quite life" approach. The geni is out of the bottle I'm afraid. And of course don't forget their human rights.
I was in hospital in Rawtenstall in 1960. In the next bed was one of our Aisian friends. He told me that the ultimate goal of ALL of his male friends of all ages was to "sleep" with a white girl preferably under 16. The brown girls were taboo. It's gone on eversince the invasion and will untill the white people get (If ever) their fingers out. It must also be remembered that some white girls "canvas" the rampant asian brotherhood for favours including booze and drugs. Hence Mr Straws "easy meat" remark. My observations over some 40 years is that it has been going on openly ever since the invasion and ALL the relevant authorities knew/know about it and take the "anything for a quite life" approach. The geni is out of the bottle I'm afraid. And of course don't forget their human rights. Gobbin

6:33pm Sat 8 Jan 11

DannyP87 says...

ibby128 wrote:
Oh yeah and if this was Saudi, Iraq (or any Muslim country), these scum wouldn't be alive right now. BRING BACK CAPITAL PUNISHMENT!!!
Yes they would, the girls in that country would be facing capital punishment for 'flaunting' themselves.
[quote][p][bold]ibby128[/bold] wrote: Oh yeah and if this was Saudi, Iraq (or any Muslim country), these scum wouldn't be alive right now. BRING BACK CAPITAL PUNISHMENT!!![/p][/quote]Yes they would, the girls in that country would be facing capital punishment for 'flaunting' themselves. DannyP87

6:50pm Sat 8 Jan 11

Good call says...

Have you noticed when the English Defence League point this sort of thing out they get called racist,facist,Far-ri
ght,"islamophobic",N
eo-Nazi,violent and that smear isn't working,just look at how many are on the offical edl page on facebook so straw is just saying this to steal the EDL's thunder.Que the screams of "Nazi" from east lancashires pc la-la uaf liberal idiots
Have you noticed when the English Defence League point this sort of thing out they get called racist,facist,Far-ri ght,"islamophobic",N eo-Nazi,violent and that smear isn't working,just look at how many are on the offical edl page on facebook so straw is just saying this to steal the EDL's thunder.Que the screams of "Nazi" from east lancashires pc la-la uaf liberal idiots Good call

7:13pm Sat 8 Jan 11

Imran786 says...

These litlle tarts are slappers they hang around whalley range to get laid where are they parents probably smacked out of thier heads and on King Street.
Wake up
These litlle tarts are slappers they hang around whalley range to get laid where are they parents probably smacked out of thier heads and on King Street. Wake up Imran786

7:20pm Sat 8 Jan 11

Hugh Jardon says...

Imran786 wrote:
These litlle tarts are slappers they hang around whalley range to get laid where are they parents probably smacked out of thier heads and on King Street.
Wake up
so that's alright then..is it?

one imagines that if I said that no white lad would want to shag an ethinic you'd be offended, then?
[quote][p][bold]Imran786[/bold] wrote: These litlle tarts are slappers they hang around whalley range to get laid where are they parents probably smacked out of thier heads and on King Street. Wake up[/p][/quote]so that's alright then..is it? one imagines that if I said that no white lad would want to shag an ethinic you'd be offended, then? Hugh Jardon

7:30pm Sat 8 Jan 11

Biffa Bacon says...

Jack Straw is totally wrong in trying to excuse these pieces of filth by saying that they pick on white girls because their own girls are off limits, both these heaps of excrement who have been jailed are married.
Jack Straw is totally wrong in trying to excuse these pieces of filth by saying that they pick on white girls because their own girls are off limits, both these heaps of excrement who have been jailed are married. Biffa Bacon

7:49pm Sat 8 Jan 11

Pinkerbell says...

happycyclist, Darwen says...
2:12pm Sat 8 Jan 11
What Straw has said would have earned him disciplinary action in any government department, for racism.

Isn't cynically and deliberately targetting white girls to get them addicted to drugs and therefore to become sex slaves a racist act?
happycyclist, Darwen says... 2:12pm Sat 8 Jan 11 What Straw has said would have earned him disciplinary action in any government department, for racism. Isn't cynically and deliberately targetting white girls to get them addicted to drugs and therefore to become sex slaves a racist act? Pinkerbell

8:00pm Sat 8 Jan 11

Steve1Keano says...

I am a white, English man who has born and raised in Blackburn. Mr Straw may have a point but I think to single out Pakistan men is terrible. One of my friends is a Pakistani and I know him from when he first moved into my area when he came from Pakistan. His granddaughter was the victim of something similar to what Mr Straw describes here and the low-life filthbag that assaulted her was a white bloke.
I know what Mr Straw is saying and we must have a debate about that but you cannot single out a specific ethnic group for the act. This is a widespread problem and the shameful acts are being conducted by a whole range of BROWN AND WHITE men. To blame just one is cowardly and out of order.
I am a white, English man who has born and raised in Blackburn. Mr Straw may have a point but I think to single out Pakistan men is terrible. One of my friends is a Pakistani and I know him from when he first moved into my area when he came from Pakistan. His granddaughter was the victim of something similar to what Mr Straw describes here and the low-life filthbag that assaulted her was a white bloke. I know what Mr Straw is saying and we must have a debate about that but you cannot single out a specific ethnic group for the act. This is a widespread problem and the shameful acts are being conducted by a whole range of BROWN AND WHITE men. To blame just one is cowardly and out of order. Steve1Keano

8:07pm Sat 8 Jan 11

Pinkerbell says...

Imran786,
7:13pm Sat 8 Jan 11

Imran, if that is your attitude, then the girls need protection NOT exploitation. Grooming happens when a young, handsome muslim lad lures a girl into a fake relationship and then after giving her expensive presents, rides in flashy cars, alcohol and drugs she is used as a sex object by these gangs and put on the streets, as she is desperate for the drugs she has become addicted to.
Imran786, 7:13pm Sat 8 Jan 11 Imran, if that is your attitude, then the girls need protection NOT exploitation. Grooming happens when a young, handsome muslim lad lures a girl into a fake relationship and then after giving her expensive presents, rides in flashy cars, alcohol and drugs she is used as a sex object by these gangs and put on the streets, as she is desperate for the drugs she has become addicted to. Pinkerbell

8:20pm Sat 8 Jan 11

happycyclist says...

Pinkerbell wrote:
happycyclist, Darwen says...
2:12pm Sat 8 Jan 11
What Straw has said would have earned him disciplinary action in any government department, for racism.

Isn't cynically and deliberately targetting white girls to get them addicted to drugs and therefore to become sex slaves a racist act?
You might have missed my point. Whilst working for a politically-correct driven government department a couple of years ago, I was hauled over the coals for a remark that was a lot more innocuous than what Straw has come out with. A lot of that political correctness came from the Labour Party -of which Straw was a cabinet minister.

Why the f*ck is he allowed to say things like this without anyone shouting "racist" at him? Why does he think he's a special case who deserves to be listened to? Jack Straw is a ballbag, a coward, and a disgrace to this country.

If people like him had stood up for what is right and not how many votes they could get at the next election, we wouldn't be in the mess we're in.

Yes, the people FROM ANOTHER CULTURE who preyed on girls from a race that they consider inferior, ARE racists. The rest of us, however, have never been allowed to say that without being branded racists -thanks to scumbags like Jack Straw.
[quote][p][bold]Pinkerbell[/bold] wrote: happycyclist, Darwen says... 2:12pm Sat 8 Jan 11 What Straw has said would have earned him disciplinary action in any government department, for racism. Isn't cynically and deliberately targetting white girls to get them addicted to drugs and therefore to become sex slaves a racist act?[/p][/quote]You might have missed my point. Whilst working for a politically-correct driven government department a couple of years ago, I was hauled over the coals for a remark that was a lot more innocuous than what Straw has come out with. A lot of that political correctness came from the Labour Party -of which Straw was a cabinet minister. Why the f*ck is he allowed to say things like this without anyone shouting "racist" at him? Why does he think he's a special case who deserves to be listened to? Jack Straw is a ballbag, a coward, and a disgrace to this country. If people like him had stood up for what is right and not how many votes they could get at the next election, we wouldn't be in the mess we're in. Yes, the people FROM ANOTHER CULTURE who preyed on girls from a race that they consider inferior, ARE racists. The rest of us, however, have never been allowed to say that without being branded racists -thanks to scumbags like Jack Straw. happycyclist

8:47pm Sat 8 Jan 11

burnleyvoter says...

Jack Straw and your ilk - you are disgusting! You have had years to do something about this! It was going on even in the late seventies - I should know, and I didn't wear mini skirts (William Wade) or come on to older blokes, nor did my friends who were also targeted on Barden park playing fields as well as at the Thompson Centre.
In Britain overall most child molesters are bound to be white because of our countries make up but in areas where the cultures are mixed the figures speak for themselves, and obviously also push the overall figures up - should have been addressed years ago.
Imran, some of these girls (children) have been badly brought up and many of them have drug addicted parents ( and we all know pushed drugs on them in the playground). Doesn't mean that as an adult you have to take advantage of them though, and the vast majority of decent men of all cultures don't.
There's one answer - longer sentences!
Jack Straw and your ilk - you are disgusting! You have had years to do something about this! It was going on even in the late seventies - I should know, and I didn't wear mini skirts (William Wade) or come on to older blokes, nor did my friends who were also targeted on Barden park playing fields as well as at the Thompson Centre. In Britain overall most child molesters are bound to be white because of our countries make up but in areas where the cultures are mixed the figures speak for themselves, and obviously also push the overall figures up - should have been addressed years ago. Imran, some of these girls (children) have been badly brought up and many of them have drug addicted parents ( and we all know pushed drugs on them in the playground). Doesn't mean that as an adult you have to take advantage of them though, and the vast majority of decent men of all cultures don't. There's one answer - longer sentences! burnleyvoter

8:50pm Sat 8 Jan 11

Phlegmatic says...

Straw has been clumsy again but the essence of some of his comments is valid. To commit these exploitation crimes, a man has to believe that the woman or child is 'less than' human - how else could he think that he has the right to 'own' and pass around his victim for his friends' use? Ultimately the problem is one of attitude and many men of ALL cultures still believe some fundamentally flawed ideas - women are less than men; certain women are 'easy' and are simply available for men's pleasure and man's sexual drive is nearly impossible to control. (Judging by some of the dreadful comments above, even readers here have those attitudes. ) Until we challenge these ideas through education and ultimately the justice system, these crimes will continue. To have the whole issue hi-jacked by race and racism deflects from the fact that women and children are still being abused by men with no respect.
Straw has been clumsy again but the essence of some of his comments is valid. To commit these exploitation crimes, a man has to believe that the woman or child is 'less than' human - how else could he think that he has the right to 'own' and pass around his victim for his friends' use? Ultimately the problem is one of attitude and many men of ALL cultures still believe some fundamentally flawed ideas - women are less than men; certain women are 'easy' and are simply available for men's pleasure and man's sexual drive is nearly impossible to control. (Judging by some of the dreadful comments above, even readers here have those attitudes. ) Until we challenge these ideas through education and ultimately the justice system, these crimes will continue. To have the whole issue hi-jacked by race and racism deflects from the fact that women and children are still being abused by men with no respect. Phlegmatic

9:35pm Sat 8 Jan 11

interacting says...

I'm actually ashamed to be living in the same town as some of you lot with your agenda of hate. There is a problem, its good to be talking about it openly but not to be using it as excuse for blatent racism.
I'm actually ashamed to be living in the same town as some of you lot with your agenda of hate. There is a problem, its good to be talking about it openly but not to be using it as excuse for blatent racism. interacting

10:16pm Sat 8 Jan 11

retired one says...

It's about time Jack, you have known about this for a long time. Have you been afraid of upsetting your minority friends?
The race card is one-sided, if this was the other way around and it was white men grooming Asian girls the 'community leaders' would soon be in uproar. If this was done by white men in a Muslim country, they would be stoned to death, no questions asked.
It's about time Jack, you have known about this for a long time. Have you been afraid of upsetting your minority friends? The race card is one-sided, if this was the other way around and it was white men grooming Asian girls the 'community leaders' would soon be in uproar. If this was done by white men in a Muslim country, they would be stoned to death, no questions asked. retired one

10:30pm Sat 8 Jan 11

Dickiepayshey says...

interacting, Blackburn says...
9:35pm Sat 8 Jan 11

I'm actually ashamed to be living in the same town as some of you lot with your agenda of hate. There is a problem, its good to be talking about it openly but not to be using it as excuse for blatent racism.





What's your take on the problem then 'interacting', and more to the point. ..... "What's your solution?"
interacting, Blackburn says... 9:35pm Sat 8 Jan 11 I'm actually ashamed to be living in the same town as some of you lot with your agenda of hate. There is a problem, its good to be talking about it openly but not to be using it as excuse for blatent racism. What's your take on the problem then 'interacting', and more to the point. ..... "What's your solution?" Dickiepayshey

12:56am Sun 9 Jan 11

whereistedward says...

happycyclist wrote:
Oh look, Jack doesn't need the votes any more because this is his last term as an MP, and he finally found his b0llocks after years of just talking b0llocks. You're a spineless lowlife, Straw.
Don't be daft happycyclist ! Jack Straw spoke out on the issue of those women wearing full burkhas at his surgeries BEFORE the last election. Perhaps you have forgotten all about this ???
And he has always supported the Council's & local police efforts to stop exploitation of children in Blackburn.
[quote][p][bold]happycyclist[/bold] wrote: Oh look, Jack doesn't need the votes any more because this is his last term as an MP, and he finally found his b0llocks after years of just talking b0llocks. You're a spineless lowlife, Straw.[/p][/quote]Don't be daft happycyclist ! Jack Straw spoke out on the issue of those women wearing full burkhas at his surgeries BEFORE the last election. Perhaps you have forgotten all about this ??? And he has always supported the Council's & local police efforts to stop exploitation of children in Blackburn. whereistedward

1:05am Sun 9 Jan 11

whereistedward says...

happycyclist wrote:
What Straw has said would have earned him disciplinary action in any government department, for racism.
No it wouldn't as what he said is clearly NOT racist. Read what he ACTUALLY said !
On one hand folk criticise Jack Straw for allegedly 'cosying up' to Pakistanis (majority of Blackburn Asians are actually Indian in origin!) whilst on the the other hand criticise him for criticising SOME Pakistani men !! The poll shows a vast majority of support for what Jack Straw has said !
That's probably why Jack Straw was one of a handful of Labour MP's to actually INCREASE his majority at the last election. That is what many folk commenting cannot seem to grasp - that Jack Straw is an excellent MP for Blackburn.
[quote][p][bold]happycyclist[/bold] wrote: What Straw has said would have earned him disciplinary action in any government department, for racism.[/p][/quote]No it wouldn't as what he said is clearly NOT racist. Read what he ACTUALLY said ! On one hand folk criticise Jack Straw for allegedly 'cosying up' to Pakistanis (majority of Blackburn Asians are actually Indian in origin!) whilst on the the other hand criticise him for criticising SOME Pakistani men !! The poll shows a vast majority of support for what Jack Straw has said ! That's probably why Jack Straw was one of a handful of Labour MP's to actually INCREASE his majority at the last election. That is what many folk commenting cannot seem to grasp - that Jack Straw is an excellent MP for Blackburn. whereistedward

1:12am Sun 9 Jan 11

Walsh says...

halfhearted wrote:
The Police and Social Services,have been aware of this type of situation for 4 years ? I can dispute that statement,this type of offence has been going on in East Lancashire for at least 10 years.
My wife worked in a Social Service run 'Childrens Home' for many years,and this type of conduct was going on and being reported.
What action was taken. None !. Young females went missing for days on end having been picked up by Asian taxi drivers.
The authoraties should take a close look at themselves,if action had been taken all those years back,many a young girl could have been protected.
But there again,it takes bottle to set up an operation plus manpower.
I must add that these incidents were not taking part in Blackburn when reported,so I'm unable to comment on the actions of that authority,but it was certainly in Lancashie.
I worked in a privately run children's home some some years ago Most nights Asian and Asian Heritage males lined up outside in their cars, they made no effort to hide their faces or their car's ID. However as staff we could not retrain the young girls, we could only just contact the Police when they failed to return at curfew. This then took up an inordinate amount of valuable Police time, when we knew they would return in the morning, usually inebriated and carrying items of jewellery and designer clothes that they did not have the day before. All the staff, Police and Social services used to do their best to pursue an investigation, however, without the support of the young people and the fact they will not give evidence against their abusers means nothing can proceed. I once went out to confront two of these men and their arrogance was astounding, after several personal insults and threats aimed at me I walked away. As I walked away they shouted words to the effect that we should looking after our women because if we didn't they would. Finally several months back, walking through Blackburn an hollow faced young women approached me and said my name. I recognised her from the home it turns out she was an ex-resident, she was groomed by Asian young men, passed on to older and older men and when she ceased to fulfil their needs, she was cast out with a crack and heroin problem. She now has turned to prostitution to deal with what in my mind was systematic and sustained physical and sexual abuse.
[quote][p][bold]halfhearted[/bold] wrote: The Police and Social Services,have been aware of this type of situation for 4 years ? I can dispute that statement,this type of offence has been going on in East Lancashire for at least 10 years. My wife worked in a Social Service run 'Childrens Home' for many years,and this type of conduct was going on and being reported. What action was taken. None !. Young females went missing for days on end having been picked up by Asian taxi drivers. The authoraties should take a close look at themselves,if action had been taken all those years back,many a young girl could have been protected. But there again,it takes bottle to set up an operation plus manpower. I must add that these incidents were not taking part in Blackburn when reported,so I'm unable to comment on the actions of that authority,but it was certainly in Lancashie.[/p][/quote]I worked in a privately run children's home some some years ago Most nights Asian and Asian Heritage males lined up outside in their cars, they made no effort to hide their faces or their car's ID. However as staff we could not retrain the young girls, we could only just contact the Police when they failed to return at curfew. This then took up an inordinate amount of valuable Police time, when we knew they would return in the morning, usually inebriated and carrying items of jewellery and designer clothes that they did not have the day before. All the staff, Police and Social services used to do their best to pursue an investigation, however, without the support of the young people and the fact they will not give evidence against their abusers means nothing can proceed. I once went out to confront two of these men and their arrogance was astounding, after several personal insults and threats aimed at me I walked away. As I walked away they shouted words to the effect that we should looking after our women because if we didn't they would. Finally several months back, walking through Blackburn an hollow faced young women approached me and said my name. I recognised her from the home it turns out she was an ex-resident, she was groomed by Asian young men, passed on to older and older men and when she ceased to fulfil their needs, she was cast out with a crack and heroin problem. She now has turned to prostitution to deal with what in my mind was systematic and sustained physical and sexual abuse. Walsh

1:18am Sun 9 Jan 11

whereistedward says...

Good call wrote:
Have you noticed when the English Defence League point this sort of thing out they get called racist,facist,Far-ri ght,"islamophobic",N eo-Nazi,violent and that smear isn't working,just look at how many are on the offical edl page on facebook so straw is just saying this to steal the EDL's thunder.Que the screams of "Nazi" from east lancashires pc la-la uaf liberal idiots
Bad call, good call !! Mrs Cryer the former (Labour) MP for Keighley raised this issue years ago.
The police and local councils have been working hard on trying to tackle the issues of exploitation for many years now.
Are you calling the police, council officials and Labour MP's racist ?
The EDL etc are ionly interested in this issue to stir up race hate.
[quote][p][bold]Good call[/bold] wrote: Have you noticed when the English Defence League point this sort of thing out they get called racist,facist,Far-ri ght,"islamophobic",N eo-Nazi,violent and that smear isn't working,just look at how many are on the offical edl page on facebook so straw is just saying this to steal the EDL's thunder.Que the screams of "Nazi" from east lancashires pc la-la uaf liberal idiots[/p][/quote]Bad call, good call !! Mrs Cryer the former (Labour) MP for Keighley raised this issue years ago. The police and local councils have been working hard on trying to tackle the issues of exploitation for many years now. Are you calling the police, council officials and Labour MP's racist ? The EDL etc are ionly interested in this issue to stir up race hate. whereistedward

2:56am Sun 9 Jan 11

maggie-T says...

Nick griffin-racist or not, spoke on this issue, the police immediately prosicuted him for racism, it's not racism, the police and the rest of the pc brigade are guilty of the neglect of young girls throughout the uk, they should hang their heads in shame, the truth is the truth-and it's coming out, the authorities can't burry their heads in the sand any longer , shams on you!!
Nick griffin-racist or not, spoke on this issue, the police immediately prosicuted him for racism, it's not racism, the police and the rest of the pc brigade are guilty of the neglect of young girls throughout the uk, they should hang their heads in shame, the truth is the truth-and it's coming out, the authorities can't burry their heads in the sand any longer , shams on you!! maggie-T

7:48am Sun 9 Jan 11

happycyclist says...

whereistedward wrote:
happycyclist wrote:
What Straw has said would have earned him disciplinary action in any government department, for racism.
No it wouldn't as what he said is clearly NOT racist. Read what he ACTUALLY said !
On one hand folk criticise Jack Straw for allegedly 'cosying up' to Pakistanis (majority of Blackburn Asians are actually Indian in origin!) whilst on the the other hand criticise him for criticising SOME Pakistani men !! The poll shows a vast majority of support for what Jack Straw has said !
That's probably why Jack Straw was one of a handful of Labour MP's to actually INCREASE his majority at the last election. That is what many folk commenting cannot seem to grasp - that Jack Straw is an excellent MP for Blackburn.
Um, I know what he said wasn't racist.

I'm angry because many people have been branded racists for less far less than what he said. And they've been branded racists because his government pursued a politically-correct agenda and went on a witch-hunt, making people afraid to even discuss cultural differences that weren't compatible with British values.

I'm angry because instead of being able to discuss these issues freely, the conversations were driven underground, muttered in pubs, on forums, in corners of minimum-wage workplaces, because people are FRIGHTENED to say things like this openly.

I'm angry because those people felt impotent, that politicians weren't listening to them, that politicians were in denial. I'm angry because politicians like Jack Straw delivered nearly a million votes in the EU elections to a right-wing party last year -and mine was one of them because I was sick of it.

And look what we've got now: Jack Straw saying exactly the same things.

I don't think what he said was racist, I think he spoke openly about something that needs to be spoken openly about. But I'm angry that his government covered their eyes and ears and blindly attempted to create the sort of 'multicultural' society that was only ever possible in la-la land.

No, I hadn't forgotten about the burka comments, but that was more personal to him, about his constituents in his surgeries, which made it less politically damaging. His recent comments were about something on a wider scale -about crimes committed in Derby, which has its own MPs, and in that sense is much braver of him. It's just a pity that he couldn't be that brave when he was Home Secretary.

He's a calculating **** who has calculated that it's politically safe for him to comment on this now rather than when he should have.
[quote][p][bold]whereistedward[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]happycyclist[/bold] wrote: What Straw has said would have earned him disciplinary action in any government department, for racism.[/p][/quote]No it wouldn't as what he said is clearly NOT racist. Read what he ACTUALLY said ! On one hand folk criticise Jack Straw for allegedly 'cosying up' to Pakistanis (majority of Blackburn Asians are actually Indian in origin!) whilst on the the other hand criticise him for criticising SOME Pakistani men !! The poll shows a vast majority of support for what Jack Straw has said ! That's probably why Jack Straw was one of a handful of Labour MP's to actually INCREASE his majority at the last election. That is what many folk commenting cannot seem to grasp - that Jack Straw is an excellent MP for Blackburn.[/p][/quote]Um, I know what he said wasn't racist. I'm angry because many people have been branded racists for less far less than what he said. And they've been branded racists because his government pursued a politically-correct agenda and went on a witch-hunt, making people afraid to even discuss cultural differences that weren't compatible with British values. I'm angry because instead of being able to discuss these issues freely, the conversations were driven underground, muttered in pubs, on forums, in corners of minimum-wage workplaces, because people are FRIGHTENED to say things like this openly. I'm angry because those people felt impotent, that politicians weren't listening to them, that politicians were in denial. I'm angry because politicians like Jack Straw delivered nearly a million votes in the EU elections to a right-wing party last year -and mine was one of them because I was sick of it. And look what we've got now: Jack Straw saying exactly the same things. I don't think what he said was racist, I think he spoke openly about something that needs to be spoken openly about. But I'm angry that his government covered their eyes and ears and blindly attempted to create the sort of 'multicultural' society that was only ever possible in la-la land. No, I hadn't forgotten about the burka comments, but that was more personal to him, about his constituents in his surgeries, which made it less politically damaging. His recent comments were about something on a wider scale -about crimes committed in Derby, which has its own MPs, and in that sense is much braver of him. It's just a pity that he couldn't be that brave when he was Home Secretary. He's a calculating **** who has calculated that it's politically safe for him to comment on this now rather than when he should have. happycyclist

8:47am Sun 9 Jan 11

stuxnet says...

better he commented on this as late as he did than for his lips to have remained forever sealed..perhaps he smelled the coffee and saw the elephant.
say some more jack and make no excuses for the evil ones
better he commented on this as late as he did than for his lips to have remained forever sealed..perhaps he smelled the coffee and saw the elephant. say some more jack and make no excuses for the evil ones stuxnet

9:41am Sun 9 Jan 11

Good call says...

whereistedward wrote:
Good call wrote: Have you noticed when the English Defence League point this sort of thing out they get called racist,facist,Far-ri ght,"islamophobic",N eo-Nazi,violent and that smear isn't working,just look at how many are on the offical edl page on facebook so straw is just saying this to steal the EDL's thunder.Que the screams of "Nazi" from east lancashires pc la-la uaf liberal idiots
Bad call, good call !! Mrs Cryer the former (Labour) MP for Keighley raised this issue years ago. The police and local councils have been working hard on trying to tackle the issues of exploitation for many years now. Are you calling the police, council officials and Labour MP's racist ? The EDL etc are ionly interested in this issue to stir up race hate.
First,Muslims aren't a race they are a religous group and Second,I'm not calling anyone "racist" Infact I think The word Racist is the most overused word in the country used to try and stop debate and free speech.And finally Most members of the EDL Are not violent "racists",yes they have the odd nutter but that's the same with any protest group,the student protests are an example of that.
[quote][p][bold]whereistedward[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Good call[/bold] wrote: Have you noticed when the English Defence League point this sort of thing out they get called racist,facist,Far-ri ght,"islamophobic",N eo-Nazi,violent and that smear isn't working,just look at how many are on the offical edl page on facebook so straw is just saying this to steal the EDL's thunder.Que the screams of "Nazi" from east lancashires pc la-la uaf liberal idiots[/p][/quote]Bad call, good call !! Mrs Cryer the former (Labour) MP for Keighley raised this issue years ago. The police and local councils have been working hard on trying to tackle the issues of exploitation for many years now. Are you calling the police, council officials and Labour MP's racist ? The EDL etc are ionly interested in this issue to stir up race hate.[/p][/quote]First,Muslims aren't a race they are a religous group and Second,I'm not calling anyone "racist" Infact I think The word Racist is the most overused word in the country used to try and stop debate and free speech.And finally Most members of the EDL Are not violent "racists",yes they have the odd nutter but that's the same with any protest group,the student protests are an example of that. Good call

10:02am Sun 9 Jan 11

The offspring says...

I look forward to reading about these dirty peadaphile bastards getting very long prison terms over the next few months.
I look forward to reading about these dirty peadaphile bastards getting very long prison terms over the next few months. The offspring

10:23am Sun 9 Jan 11

happycyclist says...

What do the young men who are "fizzing and popping with testosterone" and living in Pakistan do for "an outlet" when there are no "white heritage" girls to prey on?

I ask in all seriousness. Is this a culture that has evolved amongst those living in Britain because of opportunity, or is it an attitude that is enshrined in "Pakistani heritage"?
What do the young men who are "fizzing and popping with testosterone" and living in Pakistan do for "an outlet" when there are no "white heritage" girls to prey on? I ask in all seriousness. Is this a culture that has evolved amongst those living in Britain because of opportunity, or is it an attitude that is enshrined in "Pakistani heritage"? happycyclist

10:31am Sun 9 Jan 11

littleme says...

William Wade wrote:
Those comments could be construed as racist. What about these teenage girls? Many of them are far from innocent and you never see Asian grls behaving like that : short skirts, under age drinking and coming onto blokes all the time.
My daughter, William Wade has been approached by a car full of asian males and propositioned. She was on her way home from school and in her uniform. They are in the wrong, not the girls. Luckily, she isn't stupid and she told them where to go, ran home and we reported them to the police. These perverts are adults and the problem Blackburn has needs to be sorted out and fast.
[quote][p][bold]William Wade[/bold] wrote: Those comments could be construed as racist. What about these teenage girls? Many of them are far from innocent and you never see Asian grls behaving like that : short skirts, under age drinking and coming onto blokes all the time.[/p][/quote]My daughter, William Wade has been approached by a car full of asian males and propositioned. She was on her way home from school and in her uniform. They are in the wrong, not the girls. Luckily, she isn't stupid and she told them where to go, ran home and we reported them to the police. These perverts are adults and the problem Blackburn has needs to be sorted out and fast. littleme

10:41am Sun 9 Jan 11

littleme says...

Imran786 wrote:
These litlle tarts are slappers they hang around whalley range to get laid where are they parents probably smacked out of thier heads and on King Street. Wake up
Read my comment in reply to William Wade Imran!! Maybe you are one of thye filthy animals that prey on these girls? No? How dare I make such a suggestion, well how dare you make a statement like that. Scum.
[quote][p][bold]Imran786[/bold] wrote: These litlle tarts are slappers they hang around whalley range to get laid where are they parents probably smacked out of thier heads and on King Street. Wake up[/p][/quote]Read my comment in reply to William Wade Imran!! Maybe you are one of thye filthy animals that prey on these girls? No? How dare I make such a suggestion, well how dare you make a statement like that. Scum. littleme

10:50am Sun 9 Jan 11

stuxnet says...

happycyclist wrote:
What do the young men who are "fizzing and popping with testosterone" and living in Pakistan do for "an outlet" when there are no "white heritage" girls to prey on?

I ask in all seriousness. Is this a culture that has evolved amongst those living in Britain because of opportunity, or is it an attitude that is enshrined in "Pakistani heritage"?
what do they do for an outlet ?
THEY COME HERE
[quote][p][bold]happycyclist[/bold] wrote: What do the young men who are "fizzing and popping with testosterone" and living in Pakistan do for "an outlet" when there are no "white heritage" girls to prey on? I ask in all seriousness. Is this a culture that has evolved amongst those living in Britain because of opportunity, or is it an attitude that is enshrined in "Pakistani heritage"?[/p][/quote]what do they do for an outlet ? THEY COME HERE stuxnet

10:59am Sun 9 Jan 11

manyarecalled says...

when a student , my daughter was almost taken away in a car to London by an Asian in Leeds. fortunately she threatened to call the police .
this problem has been widely known by the public for at least 10 years.
when a student , my daughter was almost taken away in a car to London by an Asian in Leeds. fortunately she threatened to call the police . this problem has been widely known by the public for at least 10 years. manyarecalled

11:51am Sun 9 Jan 11

ballbags says...

Hugh Jardon wrote:
Imran786 wrote:
These litlle tarts are slappers they hang around whalley range to get laid where are they parents probably smacked out of thier heads and on King Street.
Wake up
so that's alright then..is it?

one imagines that if I said that no white lad would want to shag an ethinic you'd be offended, then?
hugh' imrans probably one of em thats his excuse for the abuse
[quote][p][bold]Hugh Jardon[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Imran786[/bold] wrote: These litlle tarts are slappers they hang around whalley range to get laid where are they parents probably smacked out of thier heads and on King Street. Wake up[/p][/quote]so that's alright then..is it? one imagines that if I said that no white lad would want to shag an ethinic you'd be offended, then?[/p][/quote]hugh' imrans probably one of em thats his excuse for the abuse ballbags

12:01pm Sun 9 Jan 11

ballbags says...

the amount of spin on the report is unreal, "fizzing & popping with testosterone" as though its an excuse for pakistani men to carry out the abuse in the civilised world they call these animals paedophiles & rapists
the amount of spin on the report is unreal, "fizzing & popping with testosterone" as though its an excuse for pakistani men to carry out the abuse in the civilised world they call these animals paedophiles & rapists ballbags

1:13pm Sun 9 Jan 11

jatt76 says...

It is not a case of asian guys looking for white meat..it is a case of white girls looking for asian meat as i have witnessed this happening many many times. these women are trained by theyr mothers to hunt for asian youths to pay for theyr dual fuel bills and for theyr crack cocaine or fathers calsberg cans. its not the asians who go to white areas....its the white girls who go to whalley range and stand on corners like prostitutes preying on the vunreble asian man
It is not a case of asian guys looking for white meat..it is a case of white girls looking for asian meat as i have witnessed this happening many many times. these women are trained by theyr mothers to hunt for asian youths to pay for theyr dual fuel bills and for theyr crack cocaine or fathers calsberg cans. its not the asians who go to white areas....its the white girls who go to whalley range and stand on corners like prostitutes preying on the vunreble asian man jatt76

1:24pm Sun 9 Jan 11

MrMungus says...

happycyclist wrote:
What do the young men who are "fizzing and popping with testosterone" and living in Pakistan do for "an outlet" when there are no "white heritage" girls to prey on?

I ask in all seriousness. Is this a culture that has evolved amongst those living in Britain because of opportunity, or is it an attitude that is enshrined in "Pakistani heritage"?
What Pakistani heritage?
The country did not exist until after WW11.

This sort of thing has been allowed to happen because Jack has been utterly supine when the subject has been raised, caring only for his safe seat.

Correct me if I'm wrong but there isn't a problem with Sikh and Hindu men picking up young girls Just Muslim men.

The BNP may be full of contemptible scum, but they do have a point and it isn't right that they are persecuted by the the hand wringing straw followers complaining when they tell the truth.

Straw legs good Griffin legs bad !!
[quote][p][bold]happycyclist[/bold] wrote: What do the young men who are "fizzing and popping with testosterone" and living in Pakistan do for "an outlet" when there are no "white heritage" girls to prey on? I ask in all seriousness. Is this a culture that has evolved amongst those living in Britain because of opportunity, or is it an attitude that is enshrined in "Pakistani heritage"?[/p][/quote]What Pakistani heritage? The country did not exist until after WW11. This sort of thing has been allowed to happen because Jack has been utterly supine when the subject has been raised, caring only for his safe seat. Correct me if I'm wrong but there isn't a problem with Sikh and Hindu men picking up young girls Just Muslim men. The BNP may be full of contemptible scum, but they do have a point and it isn't right that they are persecuted by the the hand wringing straw followers complaining when they tell the truth. Straw legs good Griffin legs bad !! MrMungus

1:27pm Sun 9 Jan 11

ghost of sceptic says...

seen this scum riding round round in cars up to no good! my step daughter and her friends were harrased by this scum outside the cinema in blackburn thankfully they had the sense to walk away and called us on the mobile and went back inside to stay safe till we picked them up. i will pull no punches to any of you out there who are involved in this sick perverted practice what goes round comes round you are being watched? as for jack straw your a coward for not speaking out against this which has been going on in blackburn for years just so you could cosy up to the muslim vote! you have left it too late mr straw blackburn is the town that time forgot it is a dying town on the road to ruin and you are one of the main reasons,you have highlighted a problem which is only the tip of the iceberg the born and bred people of blackburn have been ignored at the exspense of your quest for votes. to little to late!ow
seen this scum riding round round in cars up to no good! my step daughter and her friends were harrased by this scum outside the cinema in blackburn thankfully they had the sense to walk away and called us on the mobile and went back inside to stay safe till we picked them up. i will pull no punches to any of you out there who are involved in this sick perverted practice what goes round comes round you are being watched? as for jack straw your a coward for not speaking out against this which has been going on in blackburn for years just so you could cosy up to the muslim vote! you have left it too late mr straw blackburn is the town that time forgot it is a dying town on the road to ruin and you are one of the main reasons,you have highlighted a problem which is only the tip of the iceberg the born and bred people of blackburn have been ignored at the exspense of your quest for votes. to little to late!ow ghost of sceptic

1:31pm Sun 9 Jan 11

jatt76 says...

Its funny how the whites come out in force when theres a handfull of pakistani and indian men involved in sexual activitys with under age girls. but they seem to hide when there are priests and bishops who hit the headline every 2 months for pedophilia
Its funny how the whites come out in force when theres a handfull of pakistani and indian men involved in sexual activitys with under age girls. but they seem to hide when there are priests and bishops who hit the headline every 2 months for pedophilia jatt76

1:35pm Sun 9 Jan 11

Imran786 says...

littleme wrote:
Imran786 wrote: These litlle tarts are slappers they hang around whalley range to get laid where are they parents probably smacked out of thier heads and on King Street. Wake up
Read my comment in reply to William Wade Imran!! Maybe you are one of thye filthy animals that prey on these girls? No? How dare I make such a suggestion, well how dare you make a statement like that. Scum.
I live in Whalleyrange these so called innocent girls walk up and down from one end to the other and back again just too jump into "FLASHY" cars with lads. I have seen it loads of times its not only white girls its pakistanis, indians and black girls.
What was shown on sky news and the sentences should have been more or hang the dirty little $****, most of these so called vulnerable girls know what they are doing.
Let me explian i went to a chippy on Whalleyrange a young white girl came in (i am brown) she started to talk to me just being nice the she asked me if i wanted to take her for a ride, i told her where she can go. Most people would take up the offer so blame both parties.
The police OVER patrol this area constantly they see these girls going up and down up and down they dont do nothing. Most of the girls dont live around here so what are they doing here at 11 pm and later.
ALL YOU POSTERS COME AND CHECK AND YOU WILL SEE FOR YOURSELF.
By the way i dont prey on these girls and take no offence thanks i have 2 daughters and yes i understand there are scum out there pakistani pink blue black green yellow etc, what can we do to stop it happening the police will much rather stop cars for no seat belts etc. i meant no offence to anyone by my last post.
[quote][p][bold]littleme[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Imran786[/bold] wrote: These litlle tarts are slappers they hang around whalley range to get laid where are they parents probably smacked out of thier heads and on King Street. Wake up[/p][/quote]Read my comment in reply to William Wade Imran!! Maybe you are one of thye filthy animals that prey on these girls? No? How dare I make such a suggestion, well how dare you make a statement like that. Scum.[/p][/quote]I live in Whalleyrange these so called innocent girls walk up and down from one end to the other and back again just too jump into "FLASHY" cars with lads. I have seen it loads of times its not only white girls its pakistanis, indians and black girls. What was shown on sky news and the sentences should have been more or hang the dirty little $****, most of these so called vulnerable girls know what they are doing. Let me explian i went to a chippy on Whalleyrange a young white girl came in (i am brown) she started to talk to me just being nice the she asked me if i wanted to take her for a ride, i told her where she can go. Most people would take up the offer so blame both parties. The police OVER patrol this area constantly they see these girls going up and down up and down they dont do nothing. Most of the girls dont live around here so what are they doing here at 11 pm and later. ALL YOU POSTERS COME AND CHECK AND YOU WILL SEE FOR YOURSELF. By the way i dont prey on these girls and take no offence thanks i have 2 daughters and yes i understand there are scum out there pakistani pink blue black green yellow etc, what can we do to stop it happening the police will much rather stop cars for no seat belts etc. i meant no offence to anyone by my last post. Imran786

1:45pm Sun 9 Jan 11

jatt76 says...

Imran786 wrote:
littleme wrote:
Imran786 wrote: These litlle tarts are slappers they hang around whalley range to get laid where are they parents probably smacked out of thier heads and on King Street. Wake up
Read my comment in reply to William Wade Imran!! Maybe you are one of thye filthy animals that prey on these girls? No? How dare I make such a suggestion, well how dare you make a statement like that. Scum.
I live in Whalleyrange these so called innocent girls walk up and down from one end to the other and back again just too jump into "FLASHY" cars with lads. I have seen it loads of times its not only white girls its pakistanis, indians and black girls. What was shown on sky news and the sentences should have been more or hang the dirty little $****, most of these so called vulnerable girls know what they are doing. Let me explian i went to a chippy on Whalleyrange a young white girl came in (i am brown) she started to talk to me just being nice the she asked me if i wanted to take her for a ride, i told her where she can go. Most people would take up the offer so blame both parties. The police OVER patrol this area constantly they see these girls going up and down up and down they dont do nothing. Most of the girls dont live around here so what are they doing here at 11 pm and later. ALL YOU POSTERS COME AND CHECK AND YOU WILL SEE FOR YOURSELF. By the way i dont prey on these girls and take no offence thanks i have 2 daughters and yes i understand there are scum out there pakistani pink blue black green yellow etc, what can we do to stop it happening the police will much rather stop cars for no seat belts etc. i meant no offence to anyone by my last post.
You tell them blad...the whites need to stop allowing their daughters or nieces to walk up and down whalley range looking for asian men to have sexual intercourse with. i have seen these so called young prostitutes walking up and down whalley range many times on my way into work. The parents need to do more and stop pimping theyr daughters out to pay for theyr bills
[quote][p][bold]Imran786[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]littleme[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Imran786[/bold] wrote: These litlle tarts are slappers they hang around whalley range to get laid where are they parents probably smacked out of thier heads and on King Street. Wake up[/p][/quote]Read my comment in reply to William Wade Imran!! Maybe you are one of thye filthy animals that prey on these girls? No? How dare I make such a suggestion, well how dare you make a statement like that. Scum.[/p][/quote]I live in Whalleyrange these so called innocent girls walk up and down from one end to the other and back again just too jump into "FLASHY" cars with lads. I have seen it loads of times its not only white girls its pakistanis, indians and black girls. What was shown on sky news and the sentences should have been more or hang the dirty little $****, most of these so called vulnerable girls know what they are doing. Let me explian i went to a chippy on Whalleyrange a young white girl came in (i am brown) she started to talk to me just being nice the she asked me if i wanted to take her for a ride, i told her where she can go. Most people would take up the offer so blame both parties. The police OVER patrol this area constantly they see these girls going up and down up and down they dont do nothing. Most of the girls dont live around here so what are they doing here at 11 pm and later. ALL YOU POSTERS COME AND CHECK AND YOU WILL SEE FOR YOURSELF. By the way i dont prey on these girls and take no offence thanks i have 2 daughters and yes i understand there are scum out there pakistani pink blue black green yellow etc, what can we do to stop it happening the police will much rather stop cars for no seat belts etc. i meant no offence to anyone by my last post.[/p][/quote]You tell them blad...the whites need to stop allowing their daughters or nieces to walk up and down whalley range looking for asian men to have sexual intercourse with. i have seen these so called young prostitutes walking up and down whalley range many times on my way into work. The parents need to do more and stop pimping theyr daughters out to pay for theyr bills jatt76

2:02pm Sun 9 Jan 11

ghost of sceptic says...

jatt76 wrote:
Its funny how the whites come out in force when theres a handfull of pakistani and indian men involved in sexual activitys with under age girls. but they seem to hide when there are priests and bishops who hit the headline every 2 months for pedophilia
who mentioned indian men it is my understanding that these are pakistani men and not indian stop trying to deflect the blame on other races! priests bishops and the above mertioned are all scum when preying on young girls in this way.
[quote][p][bold]jatt76[/bold] wrote: Its funny how the whites come out in force when theres a handfull of pakistani and indian men involved in sexual activitys with under age girls. but they seem to hide when there are priests and bishops who hit the headline every 2 months for pedophilia[/p][/quote]who mentioned indian men it is my understanding that these are pakistani men and not indian stop trying to deflect the blame on other races! priests bishops and the above mertioned are all scum when preying on young girls in this way. ghost of sceptic

2:45pm Sun 9 Jan 11

Walsh says...

jatt76 wrote:
Imran786 wrote:
littleme wrote:
Imran786 wrote: These litlle tarts are slappers they hang around whalley range to get laid where are they parents probably smacked out of thier heads and on King Street. Wake up
Read my comment in reply to William Wade Imran!! Maybe you are one of thye filthy animals that prey on these girls? No? How dare I make such a suggestion, well how dare you make a statement like that. Scum.
I live in Whalleyrange these so called innocent girls walk up and down from one end to the other and back again just too jump into "FLASHY" cars with lads. I have seen it loads of times its not only white girls its pakistanis, indians and black girls. What was shown on sky news and the sentences should have been more or hang the dirty little $****, most of these so called vulnerable girls know what they are doing. Let me explian i went to a chippy on Whalleyrange a young white girl came in (i am brown) she started to talk to me just being nice the she asked me if i wanted to take her for a ride, i told her where she can go. Most people would take up the offer so blame both parties. The police OVER patrol this area constantly they see these girls going up and down up and down they dont do nothing. Most of the girls dont live around here so what are they doing here at 11 pm and later. ALL YOU POSTERS COME AND CHECK AND YOU WILL SEE FOR YOURSELF. By the way i dont prey on these girls and take no offence thanks i have 2 daughters and yes i understand there are scum out there pakistani pink blue black green yellow etc, what can we do to stop it happening the police will much rather stop cars for no seat belts etc. i meant no offence to anyone by my last post.
You tell them blad...the whites need to stop allowing their daughters or nieces to walk up and down whalley range looking for asian men to have sexual intercourse with. i have seen these so called young prostitutes walking up and down whalley range many times on my way into work. The parents need to do more and stop pimping theyr daughters out to pay for theyr bills
A none argument if a person is under age and vulnerable, does this give any predatory person a right to avail themselves of that person. Anybody who takes advantage of children should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law, regardless of the victim's life circumstances. Why do you defend paedophiles? If you have seen such things then why do you not report it? If you are not prepared to stand up against these cancerous individuals within your "community", then how can you expect to be treated as you want by other sections of the broader community. If the people in the Whalley Range area of Blackburn, close ranks and turn a blind eye to what is according to Jatt76 says is a common occurrence, then in my mind they are as culpable for allowing such things to happen, rather than speaking out with a view to ending this despicable behaviour. With regard imran86's comment's about over policing. Well as Jatt76 has stated there are obvious signs of grooming and child sexual abuse within the Whalley range area, therefore I would endorse an increase in policing within this area in order to stop such incidents. Jatt76 cannot then complain when the Police are there in force because he finds the behaviour of children who are easily impressed more despicable than the behaviour of the men who prey on these children.
[quote][p][bold]jatt76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Imran786[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]littleme[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Imran786[/bold] wrote: These litlle tarts are slappers they hang around whalley range to get laid where are they parents probably smacked out of thier heads and on King Street. Wake up[/p][/quote]Read my comment in reply to William Wade Imran!! Maybe you are one of thye filthy animals that prey on these girls? No? How dare I make such a suggestion, well how dare you make a statement like that. Scum.[/p][/quote]I live in Whalleyrange these so called innocent girls walk up and down from one end to the other and back again just too jump into "FLASHY" cars with lads. I have seen it loads of times its not only white girls its pakistanis, indians and black girls. What was shown on sky news and the sentences should have been more or hang the dirty little $****, most of these so called vulnerable girls know what they are doing. Let me explian i went to a chippy on Whalleyrange a young white girl came in (i am brown) she started to talk to me just being nice the she asked me if i wanted to take her for a ride, i told her where she can go. Most people would take up the offer so blame both parties. The police OVER patrol this area constantly they see these girls going up and down up and down they dont do nothing. Most of the girls dont live around here so what are they doing here at 11 pm and later. ALL YOU POSTERS COME AND CHECK AND YOU WILL SEE FOR YOURSELF. By the way i dont prey on these girls and take no offence thanks i have 2 daughters and yes i understand there are scum out there pakistani pink blue black green yellow etc, what can we do to stop it happening the police will much rather stop cars for no seat belts etc. i meant no offence to anyone by my last post.[/p][/quote]You tell them blad...the whites need to stop allowing their daughters or nieces to walk up and down whalley range looking for asian men to have sexual intercourse with. i have seen these so called young prostitutes walking up and down whalley range many times on my way into work. The parents need to do more and stop pimping theyr daughters out to pay for theyr bills[/p][/quote]A none argument if a person is under age and vulnerable, does this give any predatory person a right to avail themselves of that person. Anybody who takes advantage of children should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law, regardless of the victim's life circumstances. Why do you defend paedophiles? If you have seen such things then why do you not report it? If you are not prepared to stand up against these cancerous individuals within your "community", then how can you expect to be treated as you want by other sections of the broader community. If the people in the Whalley Range area of Blackburn, close ranks and turn a blind eye to what is according to Jatt76 says is a common occurrence, then in my mind they are as culpable for allowing such things to happen, rather than speaking out with a view to ending this despicable behaviour. With regard imran86's comment's about over policing. Well as Jatt76 has stated there are obvious signs of grooming and child sexual abuse within the Whalley range area, therefore I would endorse an increase in policing within this area in order to stop such incidents. Jatt76 cannot then complain when the Police are there in force because he finds the behaviour of children who are easily impressed more despicable than the behaviour of the men who prey on these children. Walsh

2:54pm Sun 9 Jan 11

retired one says...

ghost of sceptic wrote:
seen this scum riding round round in cars up to no good! my step daughter and her friends were harrased by this scum outside the cinema in blackburn thankfully they had the sense to walk away and called us on the mobile and went back inside to stay safe till we picked them up. i will pull no punches to any of you out there who are involved in this sick perverted practice what goes round comes round you are being watched? as for jack straw your a coward for not speaking out against this which has been going on in blackburn for years just so you could cosy up to the muslim vote! you have left it too late mr straw blackburn is the town that time forgot it is a dying town on the road to ruin and you are one of the main reasons,you have highlighted a problem which is only the tip of the iceberg the born and bred people of blackburn have been ignored at the exspense of your quest for votes. to little to late!ow
Well said.
[quote][p][bold]ghost of sceptic[/bold] wrote: seen this scum riding round round in cars up to no good! my step daughter and her friends were harrased by this scum outside the cinema in blackburn thankfully they had the sense to walk away and called us on the mobile and went back inside to stay safe till we picked them up. i will pull no punches to any of you out there who are involved in this sick perverted practice what goes round comes round you are being watched? as for jack straw your a coward for not speaking out against this which has been going on in blackburn for years just so you could cosy up to the muslim vote! you have left it too late mr straw blackburn is the town that time forgot it is a dying town on the road to ruin and you are one of the main reasons,you have highlighted a problem which is only the tip of the iceberg the born and bred people of blackburn have been ignored at the exspense of your quest for votes. to little to late!ow[/p][/quote]Well said. retired one

2:59pm Sun 9 Jan 11

Biffa Bacon says...

ghost of sceptic wrote:
jatt76 wrote: Its funny how the whites come out in force when theres a handfull of pakistani and indian men involved in sexual activitys with under age girls. but they seem to hide when there are priests and bishops who hit the headline every 2 months for pedophilia
who mentioned indian men it is my understanding that these are pakistani men and not indian stop trying to deflect the blame on other races! priests bishops and the above mertioned are all scum when preying on young girls in this way.
Well said, I have been to India and virtually everyone I met were nice friendly people an epithet that can't be used on Pakistani muslims. Most people in this country are not racist as it is not the race but the individuals that they dislike.
P.S. I dont call 53 out of 56 arrests a "handfull"
[quote][p][bold]ghost of sceptic[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jatt76[/bold] wrote: Its funny how the whites come out in force when theres a handfull of pakistani and indian men involved in sexual activitys with under age girls. but they seem to hide when there are priests and bishops who hit the headline every 2 months for pedophilia[/p][/quote]who mentioned indian men it is my understanding that these are pakistani men and not indian stop trying to deflect the blame on other races! priests bishops and the above mertioned are all scum when preying on young girls in this way.[/p][/quote]Well said, I have been to India and virtually everyone I met were nice friendly people an epithet that can't be used on Pakistani muslims. Most people in this country are not racist as it is not the race but the individuals that they dislike. P.S. I dont call 53 out of 56 arrests a "handfull" Biffa Bacon

3:03pm Sun 9 Jan 11

Walsh says...

Biffa Bacon wrote:
ghost of sceptic wrote:
jatt76 wrote: Its funny how the whites come out in force when theres a handfull of pakistani and indian men involved in sexual activitys with under age girls. but they seem to hide when there are priests and bishops who hit the headline every 2 months for pedophilia
who mentioned indian men it is my understanding that these are pakistani men and not indian stop trying to deflect the blame on other races! priests bishops and the above mertioned are all scum when preying on young girls in this way.
Well said, I have been to India and virtually everyone I met were nice friendly people an epithet that can't be used on Pakistani muslims. Most people in this country are not racist as it is not the race but the individuals that they dislike.
P.S. I dont call 53 out of 56 arrests a "handfull"
Yes on those figures alone 94.6% of the perpetrators were not white. This does not even take into account that non-whites are, still, a minority in this country. So even this figure paints the majority of offenders in a good light.
[quote][p][bold]Biffa Bacon[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghost of sceptic[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jatt76[/bold] wrote: Its funny how the whites come out in force when theres a handfull of pakistani and indian men involved in sexual activitys with under age girls. but they seem to hide when there are priests and bishops who hit the headline every 2 months for pedophilia[/p][/quote]who mentioned indian men it is my understanding that these are pakistani men and not indian stop trying to deflect the blame on other races! priests bishops and the above mertioned are all scum when preying on young girls in this way.[/p][/quote]Well said, I have been to India and virtually everyone I met were nice friendly people an epithet that can't be used on Pakistani muslims. Most people in this country are not racist as it is not the race but the individuals that they dislike. P.S. I dont call 53 out of 56 arrests a "handfull"[/p][/quote]Yes on those figures alone 94.6% of the perpetrators were not white. This does not even take into account that non-whites are, still, a minority in this country. So even this figure paints the majority of offenders in a good light. Walsh

3:36pm Sun 9 Jan 11

duty free says...

Firstly, I think the LT's campaign to protect kids is spot on and ahead of it its time.
Secondly, having lived in some large cities across the world, it's my view that most Muslim men regard all non-muslim women (regardless of age and the lengths of their skirts) as whores.
Firstly, I think the LT's campaign to protect kids is spot on and ahead of it its time. Secondly, having lived in some large cities across the world, it's my view that most Muslim men regard all non-muslim women (regardless of age and the lengths of their skirts) as whores. duty free

3:37pm Sun 9 Jan 11

Centaur says...

The answer is not just to catch them at it, but to punish them with something that they will respect.

Castrate them, every time we catch one. Muslims do not like that at all, neither does anybody else. But it will stop them.
The answer is not just to catch them at it, but to punish them with something that they will respect. Castrate them, every time we catch one. Muslims do not like that at all, neither does anybody else. But it will stop them. Centaur

3:39pm Sun 9 Jan 11

stuxnet says...

a harsher punishment still would be to deport them
a harsher punishment still would be to deport them stuxnet

4:11pm Sun 9 Jan 11

dreamerbfc says...

About time Jack ! This has been going on for years in many towns with high Asian populations. Why didn't you say something about this when you had the power to stop it ? Why have you waited until The Times did a report ? Social Services and the Schools have know this was a major problem in Blackburn for years and yet you said nothing! Shame on you Jack - too little / too late and too afraid of upsetting those vile perverts ( and their ethic communities )who know that these events are happening and who turn a blind eye to such things.
About time Jack ! This has been going on for years in many towns with high Asian populations. Why didn't you say something about this when you had the power to stop it ? Why have you waited until The Times did a report ? Social Services and the Schools have know this was a major problem in Blackburn for years and yet you said nothing! Shame on you Jack - too little / too late and too afraid of upsetting those vile perverts ( and their ethic communities )who know that these events are happening and who turn a blind eye to such things. dreamerbfc

5:30pm Sun 9 Jan 11

chris283 says...

jatt ave u got any brains in that very tiny head of yours these girls are obviously immature for there age i have witnessed this for my self with my 15 yr old daughter shouting sexual remarks at her they would not stop the car and do it they had to be moving there were a rape in burnley not so long ago he was described as a asian male how do u account for that you pratt wat a numpty you rearlly are shut up u idiot
jatt ave u got any brains in that very tiny head of yours these girls are obviously immature for there age i have witnessed this for my self with my 15 yr old daughter shouting sexual remarks at her they would not stop the car and do it they had to be moving there were a rape in burnley not so long ago he was described as a asian male how do u account for that you pratt wat a numpty you rearlly are shut up u idiot chris283

5:42pm Sun 9 Jan 11

wotthe says...

Just goes to show with a little bit of backing the bnp have some clout Jack Straw and all the rest of so called MPs have been aware of this major problem for years,Nick Griffin a few years ago was ridiculed,taken to court for highlighting this as a problem,called a racist etc,now the BNP have been letting the public know about the problem organising marches and leaflet distribution,their insistance and persiverance has brought this to the media,we now find other MPs jumping on the bandwagon.If Nick Griffin and the party had bowed to the pressures to make him and the party to let this go i am sorry to say Jack you and the media would have kept your mouths shut as you have all along(frightend of upsetting certain people)So its thanks to Nick and the bnp this problem may get sorted.
Just goes to show with a little bit of backing the bnp have some clout Jack Straw and all the rest of so called MPs have been aware of this major problem for years,Nick Griffin a few years ago was ridiculed,taken to court for highlighting this as a problem,called a racist etc,now the BNP have been letting the public know about the problem organising marches and leaflet distribution,their insistance and persiverance has brought this to the media,we now find other MPs jumping on the bandwagon.If Nick Griffin and the party had bowed to the pressures to make him and the party to let this go i am sorry to say Jack you and the media would have kept your mouths shut as you have all along(frightend of upsetting certain people)So its thanks to Nick and the bnp this problem may get sorted. wotthe

6:26pm Sun 9 Jan 11

Smooth says...

Well Jack you have finally said something that all of blackburn and the country sit up and take notice - retirement must be close and then you will take your greasy paws to the house of Lords - LOL.

As for making this into a race issue - just follow this link and you will see that scums beget colour or creed:

http://www.bbc.co.uk
/news/uk-england-cor
nwall-11821933

Of course the inbreeding and the incestious BNP and Co will go on bleating about this from a race persepective - if that is their only argument then why do their membership contain people who have shared the same cells as the scum in Derby are now doing.

Whats important is this:
- How do we protect these vulnerable young people and how do we make sure that those in care are looked after properly and not put in situations where these predators can have access to them?
- How do we educate our young people - this requires an honest and open debate and yes some White/pakistani/indi
ans/Eastern Europeans etc are potential perpetrators and we must make sure that the Police and Social Services make people aware of these dangerous animals - its not an issue of race but of commonsense.
- The community of lancashire needs to cone together and condemn such behaviour but remember not the BNP - their community is already full of these types of perpetrators.

Does this mean that next week that Jack will be picking on Gypsies; Darwinians; Poles; and lets not forget the local authority chief exectuives - I think the latter we can ignore afterall Jack and Co made sure their uneducated friends were well greased.

Ciao pendajo's
Well Jack you have finally said something that all of blackburn and the country sit up and take notice - retirement must be close and then you will take your greasy paws to the house of Lords - LOL. As for making this into a race issue - just follow this link and you will see that scums beget colour or creed: http://www.bbc.co.uk /news/uk-england-cor nwall-11821933 Of course the inbreeding and the incestious BNP and Co will go on bleating about this from a race persepective - if that is their only argument then why do their membership contain people who have shared the same cells as the scum in Derby are now doing. Whats important is this: - How do we protect these vulnerable young people and how do we make sure that those in care are looked after properly and not put in situations where these predators can have access to them? - How do we educate our young people - this requires an honest and open debate and yes some White/pakistani/indi ans/Eastern Europeans etc are potential perpetrators and we must make sure that the Police and Social Services make people aware of these dangerous animals - its not an issue of race but of commonsense. - The community of lancashire needs to cone together and condemn such behaviour but remember not the BNP - their community is already full of these types of perpetrators. Does this mean that next week that Jack will be picking on Gypsies; Darwinians; Poles; and lets not forget the local authority chief exectuives - I think the latter we can ignore afterall Jack and Co made sure their uneducated friends were well greased. Ciao pendajo's Smooth

8:07pm Sun 9 Jan 11

pdb951 says...

Well well Jack. Pity you waited so long to tell us all what many of us knew anyway. Shame you waited so klong as you used to be in a position where you may have been able to do something about it. I suggest you crawl back under the rock you have been hiding under for so long. Another example of how pathetic many in your party are. Shame on you!
Well well Jack. Pity you waited so long to tell us all what many of us knew anyway. Shame you waited so klong as you used to be in a position where you may have been able to do something about it. I suggest you crawl back under the rock you have been hiding under for so long. Another example of how pathetic many in your party are. Shame on you! pdb951

8:14pm Sun 9 Jan 11

pdb951 says...

Isnt it strange how I cannot see the word paedophile used in this story. Thew girls were as young as 12 years old. Do we not have Asian paedophiles. Why were the scentances so short. These girls were groomed and raped were they not? If this was a white guy there would be am absolute outcry but oh no just seems to be an upset over Jack Straw telling us the truth now that he is out of office. This is pathetic. We need people who will address the important issues when they are in office. The police should be sorting this out not chasing prostitutes. Ah but this might upset one or more of our minorities!
Isnt it strange how I cannot see the word paedophile used in this story. Thew girls were as young as 12 years old. Do we not have Asian paedophiles. Why were the scentances so short. These girls were groomed and raped were they not? If this was a white guy there would be am absolute outcry but oh no just seems to be an upset over Jack Straw telling us the truth now that he is out of office. This is pathetic. We need people who will address the important issues when they are in office. The police should be sorting this out not chasing prostitutes. Ah but this might upset one or more of our minorities! pdb951

10:48pm Sun 9 Jan 11

unbelievable says...

You are missing something good people .

Every single post between

10.30 p.m Saturday 8th

and

12.56 a.m. Sunday 9th

has been removed .

There was some superb debate then .

Oh well.....
You are missing something good people . Every single post between 10.30 p.m Saturday 8th and 12.56 a.m. Sunday 9th has been removed . There was some superb debate then . Oh well..... unbelievable

11:30pm Sun 9 Jan 11

sea pigeon says...

Take me back to the 50s when none of this scum was around.
Take me back to the 50s when none of this scum was around. sea pigeon

9:03am Mon 10 Jan 11

wing commander bomber harris says...

Smooth wrote:
Well Jack you have finally said something that all of blackburn and the country sit up and take notice - retirement must be close and then you will take your greasy paws to the house of Lords - LOL. As for making this into a race issue - just follow this link and you will see that scums beget colour or creed: http://www.bbc.co.uk /news/uk-england-cor nwall-11821933 Of course the inbreeding and the incestious BNP and Co will go on bleating about this from a race persepective - if that is their only argument then why do their membership contain people who have shared the same cells as the scum in Derby are now doing. Whats important is this: - How do we protect these vulnerable young people and how do we make sure that those in care are looked after properly and not put in situations where these predators can have access to them? - How do we educate our young people - this requires an honest and open debate and yes some White/pakistani/indi ans/Eastern Europeans etc are potential perpetrators and we must make sure that the Police and Social Services make people aware of these dangerous animals - its not an issue of race but of commonsense. - The community of lancashire needs to cone together and condemn such behaviour but remember not the BNP - their community is already full of these types of perpetrators. Does this mean that next week that Jack will be picking on Gypsies; Darwinians; Poles; and lets not forget the local authority chief exectuives - I think the latter we can ignore afterall Jack and Co made sure their uneducated friends were well greased. Ciao pendajo's
You know smooth, if you had not wasted half a page mocking the BNP and the EDL, your excellent point would have been a lot clearer. As for Jack picking on some elements of the packistani community. I don't think he was, but he has brought it out into the open. Maybe something can be done about it now?
[quote][p][bold]Smooth[/bold] wrote: Well Jack you have finally said something that all of blackburn and the country sit up and take notice - retirement must be close and then you will take your greasy paws to the house of Lords - LOL. As for making this into a race issue - just follow this link and you will see that scums beget colour or creed: http://www.bbc.co.uk /news/uk-england-cor nwall-11821933 Of course the inbreeding and the incestious BNP and Co will go on bleating about this from a race persepective - if that is their only argument then why do their membership contain people who have shared the same cells as the scum in Derby are now doing. Whats important is this: - How do we protect these vulnerable young people and how do we make sure that those in care are looked after properly and not put in situations where these predators can have access to them? - How do we educate our young people - this requires an honest and open debate and yes some White/pakistani/indi ans/Eastern Europeans etc are potential perpetrators and we must make sure that the Police and Social Services make people aware of these dangerous animals - its not an issue of race but of commonsense. - The community of lancashire needs to cone together and condemn such behaviour but remember not the BNP - their community is already full of these types of perpetrators. Does this mean that next week that Jack will be picking on Gypsies; Darwinians; Poles; and lets not forget the local authority chief exectuives - I think the latter we can ignore afterall Jack and Co made sure their uneducated friends were well greased. Ciao pendajo's[/p][/quote]You know smooth, if you had not wasted half a page mocking the BNP and the EDL, your excellent point would have been a lot clearer. As for Jack picking on some elements of the packistani community. I don't think he was, but he has brought it out into the open. Maybe something can be done about it now? wing commander bomber harris

9:14am Mon 10 Jan 11

wing commander bomber harris says...

jatt76 wrote:
It is not a case of asian guys looking for white meat..it is a case of white girls looking for asian meat as i have witnessed this happening many many times. these women are trained by theyr mothers to hunt for asian youths to pay for theyr dual fuel bills and for theyr crack cocaine or fathers calsberg cans. its not the asians who go to white areas....its the white girls who go to whalley range and stand on corners like prostitutes preying on the vunreble asian man
well done jatt76 for proving Jack Straw right. Never in the history of the LT comments page has anybody shown themselves up quite like you have. You actually prove that some asian men think that white girls are nothing more than prostitutes. The fact that some of these kids don't have any parents (which is why they are vulnerable) shows how nasty these scum bags are.
[quote][p][bold]jatt76[/bold] wrote: It is not a case of asian guys looking for white meat..it is a case of white girls looking for asian meat as i have witnessed this happening many many times. these women are trained by theyr mothers to hunt for asian youths to pay for theyr dual fuel bills and for theyr crack cocaine or fathers calsberg cans. its not the asians who go to white areas....its the white girls who go to whalley range and stand on corners like prostitutes preying on the vunreble asian man[/p][/quote]well done jatt76 for proving Jack Straw right. Never in the history of the LT comments page has anybody shown themselves up quite like you have. You actually prove that some asian men think that white girls are nothing more than prostitutes. The fact that some of these kids don't have any parents (which is why they are vulnerable) shows how nasty these scum bags are. wing commander bomber harris

9:43am Mon 10 Jan 11

webber26 says...

How can u possibly deport someone who was born here and is therefore british, studied here paid taxes etc????? Whilst I have had first hand experience of this kind of thing i do not agree with alot of what is being said. I was born in Stoneyholme Burnley now 98 %ethnic area. My father always warned me about young asian me and their lack of respect for young white women. Funny thing is I did not xperience such filth until I moved to Accrington. At 11 years old walking home from my 3rd dday at high school a car pulled up with an asian man telling me he ran an off license and he could give me free cigs and booze, I was petrified and ran home. I called the police and he was charged with a public order offence. Even after this experience I am still inclined to side with Imran and Jatt. Where are the parents carers etc of these girls? Like it or not booze induced pram pushing Britain is the way it is headed. Why do we have so many 15 year pregnant heroin addicted little trogs with work shy attitudes. I hate that asian men view our women as worthless but perhaps before we call other cultures origins or whatever phrase suits we should look at our own culture . I have an 8 year old son and I am dreading him becoming a teenager. I dnt want girls near my son. Teenage girls as a majority are twice as filthy as young white or asian men these days. Sat on a bus full of primary school kids discussing blow jobs and fingering and who got laid last night!! Sounds course doesn't it??? any of u on here with teenage daughters wise up cuz that is what they are discussing on their way home from school. And when they came home an hour late on a Saturday night reaking of booze with an excuse they missed the bus they were geting laid wise up!!!!!!! I anyone is stupid enough to think that making this a race issue can excuse the behaviour of our girls is deluded. Girls have the opportunity to say know to the cars booze designer gear drugs etc if they were brought up to have a little self respect!!! I must stress I in no way condone the behaviour of any1 sleeping ith underage girls, but above the smoke screen of racism when are we goin to start bringing up our daughters instead of dragging them up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
How can u possibly deport someone who was born here and is therefore british, studied here paid taxes etc????? Whilst I have had first hand experience of this kind of thing i do not agree with alot of what is being said. I was born in Stoneyholme Burnley now 98 %ethnic area. My father always warned me about young asian me and their lack of respect for young white women. Funny thing is I did not xperience such filth until I moved to Accrington. At 11 years old walking home from my 3rd dday at high school a car pulled up with an asian man telling me he ran an off license and he could give me free cigs and booze, I was petrified and ran home. I called the police and he was charged with a public order offence. Even after this experience I am still inclined to side with Imran and Jatt. Where are the parents carers etc of these girls? Like it or not booze induced pram pushing Britain is the way it is headed. Why do we have so many 15 year pregnant heroin addicted little trogs with work shy attitudes. I hate that asian men view our women as worthless but perhaps before we call other cultures origins or whatever phrase suits we should look at our own culture . I have an 8 year old son and I am dreading him becoming a teenager. I dnt want girls near my son. Teenage girls as a majority are twice as filthy as young white or asian men these days. Sat on a bus full of primary school kids discussing blow jobs and fingering and who got laid last night!! Sounds course doesn't it??? any of u on here with teenage daughters wise up cuz that is what they are discussing on their way home from school. And when they came home an hour late on a Saturday night reaking of booze with an excuse they missed the bus they were geting laid wise up!!!!!!! I anyone is stupid enough to think that making this a race issue can excuse the behaviour of our girls is deluded. Girls have the opportunity to say know to the cars booze designer gear drugs etc if they were brought up to have a little self respect!!! I must stress I in no way condone the behaviour of any1 sleeping ith underage girls, but above the smoke screen of racism when are we goin to start bringing up our daughters instead of dragging them up!!!!!!!!!!!!!! webber26

10:02am Mon 10 Jan 11

gal_MB says...

webber26 wrote:
How can u possibly deport someone who was born here and is therefore british, studied here paid taxes etc????? Whilst I have had first hand experience of this kind of thing i do not agree with alot of what is being said. I was born in Stoneyholme Burnley now 98 %ethnic area. My father always warned me about young asian me and their lack of respect for young white women. Funny thing is I did not xperience such filth until I moved to Accrington. At 11 years old walking home from my 3rd dday at high school a car pulled up with an asian man telling me he ran an off license and he could give me free cigs and booze, I was petrified and ran home. I called the police and he was charged with a public order offence. Even after this experience I am still inclined to side with Imran and Jatt. Where are the parents carers etc of these girls? Like it or not booze induced pram pushing Britain is the way it is headed. Why do we have so many 15 year pregnant heroin addicted little trogs with work shy attitudes. I hate that asian men view our women as worthless but perhaps before we call other cultures origins or whatever phrase suits we should look at our own culture . I have an 8 year old son and I am dreading him becoming a teenager. I dnt want girls near my son. Teenage girls as a majority are twice as filthy as young white or asian men these days. Sat on a bus full of primary school kids discussing blow jobs and fingering and who got laid last night!! Sounds course doesn't it??? any of u on here with teenage daughters wise up cuz that is what they are discussing on their way home from school. And when they came home an hour late on a Saturday night reaking of booze with an excuse they missed the bus they were geting laid wise up!!!!!!! I anyone is stupid enough to think that making this a race issue can excuse the behaviour of our girls is deluded. Girls have the opportunity to say know to the cars booze designer gear drugs etc if they were brought up to have a little self respect!!! I must stress I in no way condone the behaviour of any1 sleeping ith underage girls, but above the smoke screen of racism when are we goin to start bringing up our daughters instead of dragging them up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Absolutely agree with this post ... we nned to bring up our daughters whatever race/religion with more self respect and go back to basic values. We need to apply this principle right across our lives. I don't care what faith you areif any - we just pray in a different manner and am sure 'God' or whatever name you call him would not condone this behaviour. We are human first and foremost so start acting that way, treat others how you wish to be treated.

As for Jack - he is obviously not going to stand up for re-elcetion so needed to finally say what we all knew. As for these lads-yes they are a minority but the 'community' and 'families' know exactly what they are doing and are as much culprits for ignoring the facts that are in their face everyday. But hey-ho NIMBY syndrome and if their daughter is ok then it is fine BUT remember what goes round comes around. Forget you honour and all that crap put humanity first and the principles of your faith if you have one. You have to face you God one day don't you???
[quote][p][bold]webber26[/bold] wrote: How can u possibly deport someone who was born here and is therefore british, studied here paid taxes etc????? Whilst I have had first hand experience of this kind of thing i do not agree with alot of what is being said. I was born in Stoneyholme Burnley now 98 %ethnic area. My father always warned me about young asian me and their lack of respect for young white women. Funny thing is I did not xperience such filth until I moved to Accrington. At 11 years old walking home from my 3rd dday at high school a car pulled up with an asian man telling me he ran an off license and he could give me free cigs and booze, I was petrified and ran home. I called the police and he was charged with a public order offence. Even after this experience I am still inclined to side with Imran and Jatt. Where are the parents carers etc of these girls? Like it or not booze induced pram pushing Britain is the way it is headed. Why do we have so many 15 year pregnant heroin addicted little trogs with work shy attitudes. I hate that asian men view our women as worthless but perhaps before we call other cultures origins or whatever phrase suits we should look at our own culture . I have an 8 year old son and I am dreading him becoming a teenager. I dnt want girls near my son. Teenage girls as a majority are twice as filthy as young white or asian men these days. Sat on a bus full of primary school kids discussing blow jobs and fingering and who got laid last night!! Sounds course doesn't it??? any of u on here with teenage daughters wise up cuz that is what they are discussing on their way home from school. And when they came home an hour late on a Saturday night reaking of booze with an excuse they missed the bus they were geting laid wise up!!!!!!! I anyone is stupid enough to think that making this a race issue can excuse the behaviour of our girls is deluded. Girls have the opportunity to say know to the cars booze designer gear drugs etc if they were brought up to have a little self respect!!! I must stress I in no way condone the behaviour of any1 sleeping ith underage girls, but above the smoke screen of racism when are we goin to start bringing up our daughters instead of dragging them up!!!!!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]Absolutely agree with this post ... we nned to bring up our daughters whatever race/religion with more self respect and go back to basic values. We need to apply this principle right across our lives. I don't care what faith you areif any - we just pray in a different manner and am sure 'God' or whatever name you call him would not condone this behaviour. We are human first and foremost so start acting that way, treat others how you wish to be treated. As for Jack - he is obviously not going to stand up for re-elcetion so needed to finally say what we all knew. As for these lads-yes they are a minority but the 'community' and 'families' know exactly what they are doing and are as much culprits for ignoring the facts that are in their face everyday. But hey-ho NIMBY syndrome and if their daughter is ok then it is fine BUT remember what goes round comes around. Forget you honour and all that crap put humanity first and the principles of your faith if you have one. You have to face you God one day don't you??? gal_MB

12:42pm Mon 10 Jan 11

athomeagain says...

We need to educate our children properly about this issue. Instead of churning out the same old PC garbage we must make them aware of the sad truth that these men do not veiw them with any respect and will use them for whatever they see fit.
Only by being brave enough to stand up and say "No more" will we stand any chance of reversing the damage done and to protect our children from future abuse.
I am a practising RC and I know many asian comments have mentioned the child sex abuse scandal in the clergy, but I am not aware of any Catholic saying they asked for it because they were vunerable.
Child abuse is just about the most evil crime possible and cannot be defended under any circumstances and any attempt to do so just high lights the true differences between our cultures.
We need to educate our children properly about this issue. Instead of churning out the same old PC garbage we must make them aware of the sad truth that these men do not veiw them with any respect and will use them for whatever they see fit. Only by being brave enough to stand up and say "No more" will we stand any chance of reversing the damage done and to protect our children from future abuse. I am a practising RC and I know many asian comments have mentioned the child sex abuse scandal in the clergy, but I am not aware of any Catholic saying they asked for it because they were vunerable. Child abuse is just about the most evil crime possible and cannot be defended under any circumstances and any attempt to do so just high lights the true differences between our cultures. athomeagain

11:27am Tue 11 Jan 11

mrengland07 says...

As an asian- NOT A PAKISTANI, its a good sign that someone has realised who the bad image of the asian community are. I made this point 2-3 weeks ago on another article that asians come across the same but there is a big difference between indians, pakistani etc and i said pakistanis are the bad image of the asian community because as an indian you can see how rude pakistani are. But obviously people come up with comments like your all the same..go back to ur own country bla bla bla... but at least someone has recognised the root cause and now its out in the open...its the pakistani. i can tell you if there was less pakistanis in Britian the image of asians in britian would be a more positive one.
As an asian- NOT A PAKISTANI, its a good sign that someone has realised who the bad image of the asian community are. I made this point 2-3 weeks ago on another article that asians come across the same but there is a big difference between indians, pakistani etc and i said pakistanis are the bad image of the asian community because as an indian you can see how rude pakistani are. But obviously people come up with comments like your all the same..go back to ur own country bla bla bla... but at least someone has recognised the root cause and now its out in the open...its the pakistani. i can tell you if there was less pakistanis in Britian the image of asians in britian would be a more positive one. mrengland07

11:41am Tue 11 Jan 11

antonio 001 says...

My commend to those who agree with coalition : nobody forced them to take over, if things are as bad as they say they are , they knew it in advance , but reneging what they said they would not do is lack of honour, dignity and integrity.
The only attribute I can give to Nick Clegg and others PROSTITUTE
My commend to those who agree with coalition : nobody forced them to take over, if things are as bad as they say they are , they knew it in advance , but reneging what they said they would not do is lack of honour, dignity and integrity. The only attribute I can give to Nick Clegg and others PROSTITUTE antonio 001

12:01pm Tue 11 Jan 11

wing commander bomber harris says...

mrengland07 wrote:
As an asian- NOT A PAKISTANI, its a good sign that someone has realised who the bad image of the asian community are. I made this point 2-3 weeks ago on another article that asians come across the same but there is a big difference between indians, pakistani etc and i said pakistanis are the bad image of the asian community because as an indian you can see how rude pakistani are. But obviously people come up with comments like your all the same..go back to ur own country bla bla bla... but at least someone has recognised the root cause and now its out in the open...its the pakistani. i can tell you if there was less pakistanis in Britian the image of asians in britian would be a more positive one.
I remember working for a company which had employed a number of people from white, Pakistani and Indian heritage. It was the first time that I had worked with people from another culture and it was amazing the difference between the lack of manners and attitude of the Pakistani’s and how the Indian’s, particularly the Hindus, just got on fine with the white employees. Yes, it’s just one situation, and yes, you cannot base the whole population of India, Bangladesh and Pakistan on this event but it was something which made me realise how different people are.
[quote][p][bold]mrengland07[/bold] wrote: As an asian- NOT A PAKISTANI, its a good sign that someone has realised who the bad image of the asian community are. I made this point 2-3 weeks ago on another article that asians come across the same but there is a big difference between indians, pakistani etc and i said pakistanis are the bad image of the asian community because as an indian you can see how rude pakistani are. But obviously people come up with comments like your all the same..go back to ur own country bla bla bla... but at least someone has recognised the root cause and now its out in the open...its the pakistani. i can tell you if there was less pakistanis in Britian the image of asians in britian would be a more positive one.[/p][/quote]I remember working for a company which had employed a number of people from white, Pakistani and Indian heritage. It was the first time that I had worked with people from another culture and it was amazing the difference between the lack of manners and attitude of the Pakistani’s and how the Indian’s, particularly the Hindus, just got on fine with the white employees. Yes, it’s just one situation, and yes, you cannot base the whole population of India, Bangladesh and Pakistan on this event but it was something which made me realise how different people are. wing commander bomber harris

12:05pm Tue 11 Jan 11

mrengland07 says...

wing commander bomber harris wrote:
mrengland07 wrote: As an asian- NOT A PAKISTANI, its a good sign that someone has realised who the bad image of the asian community are. I made this point 2-3 weeks ago on another article that asians come across the same but there is a big difference between indians, pakistani etc and i said pakistanis are the bad image of the asian community because as an indian you can see how rude pakistani are. But obviously people come up with comments like your all the same..go back to ur own country bla bla bla... but at least someone has recognised the root cause and now its out in the open...its the pakistani. i can tell you if there was less pakistanis in Britian the image of asians in britian would be a more positive one.
I remember working for a company which had employed a number of people from white, Pakistani and Indian heritage. It was the first time that I had worked with people from another culture and it was amazing the difference between the lack of manners and attitude of the Pakistani’s and how the Indian’s, particularly the Hindus, just got on fine with the white employees. Yes, it’s just one situation, and yes, you cannot base the whole population of India, Bangladesh and Pakistan on this event but it was something which made me realise how different people are.
appreciate someone understanding my point :D
[quote][p][bold]wing commander bomber harris[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mrengland07[/bold] wrote: As an asian- NOT A PAKISTANI, its a good sign that someone has realised who the bad image of the asian community are. I made this point 2-3 weeks ago on another article that asians come across the same but there is a big difference between indians, pakistani etc and i said pakistanis are the bad image of the asian community because as an indian you can see how rude pakistani are. But obviously people come up with comments like your all the same..go back to ur own country bla bla bla... but at least someone has recognised the root cause and now its out in the open...its the pakistani. i can tell you if there was less pakistanis in Britian the image of asians in britian would be a more positive one.[/p][/quote]I remember working for a company which had employed a number of people from white, Pakistani and Indian heritage. It was the first time that I had worked with people from another culture and it was amazing the difference between the lack of manners and attitude of the Pakistani’s and how the Indian’s, particularly the Hindus, just got on fine with the white employees. Yes, it’s just one situation, and yes, you cannot base the whole population of India, Bangladesh and Pakistan on this event but it was something which made me realise how different people are.[/p][/quote]appreciate someone understanding my point :D mrengland07

2:31pm Tue 11 Jan 11

George Khan says...

Oh Mr England you're being groomed to be a chumcha
By none other than the fickle Bomber Harris
Jack has made a valid point but he has his own agenda
He has generalised and maligned not only Pakistanis but Muslims
This grooming is no blody good but I'm afraid it's not helped by the girls behaviour
Why are they rife for exploitation?
Young women at that age should have a notion of self-respect
To be wary of weirdos, be it white,black or asian
To be openly vulnerable opens the doors for men who seek to molest
They need some awareness and education
Now Mr England, before you become an apologist
White folk down in areas of Mill Hill and Roman Road will see you, because of Jack, as one of them
So distance yourself too much because they won't give a sh..
There's good and bad in every community, it's easy for politicians, for publicity,to cause mayhem
One more thing putters, It's not only young girls that are being groomed
Bomber Harris and RK regularly stalk the streets of Whalley Range
Bowing before Bearded Mullahs to be taken down an alley way or dark room
They plead for their walking manner to be rearranged
And they shout, 'Long Live Pakistan, Pakistan Zindabad!'
With walking sticks hitched up their rear ends, they hop around the Range like kangaroos
Now, they're on a high, for them it's not that bad
Mr England, if you want, you can try it too, you got nothing to lose
Oh Mr England you're being groomed to be a chumcha By none other than the fickle Bomber Harris Jack has made a valid point but he has his own agenda He has generalised and maligned not only Pakistanis but Muslims This grooming is no blody good but I'm afraid it's not helped by the girls behaviour Why are they rife for exploitation? Young women at that age should have a notion of self-respect To be wary of weirdos, be it white,black or asian To be openly vulnerable opens the doors for men who seek to molest They need some awareness and education Now Mr England, before you become an apologist White folk down in areas of Mill Hill and Roman Road will see you, because of Jack, as one of them So distance yourself too much because they won't give a sh.. There's good and bad in every community, it's easy for politicians, for publicity,to cause mayhem One more thing putters, It's not only young girls that are being groomed Bomber Harris and RK regularly stalk the streets of Whalley Range Bowing before Bearded Mullahs to be taken down an alley way or dark room They plead for their walking manner to be rearranged And they shout, 'Long Live Pakistan, Pakistan Zindabad!' With walking sticks hitched up their rear ends, they hop around the Range like kangaroos Now, they're on a high, for them it's not that bad Mr England, if you want, you can try it too, you got nothing to lose George Khan

3:02pm Tue 11 Jan 11

mrengland07 says...

George Khan wrote:
Oh Mr England you're being groomed to be a chumcha By none other than the fickle Bomber Harris Jack has made a valid point but he has his own agenda He has generalised and maligned not only Pakistanis but Muslims This grooming is no blody good but I'm afraid it's not helped by the girls behaviour Why are they rife for exploitation? Young women at that age should have a notion of self-respect To be wary of weirdos, be it white,black or asian To be openly vulnerable opens the doors for men who seek to molest They need some awareness and education Now Mr England, before you become an apologist White folk down in areas of Mill Hill and Roman Road will see you, because of Jack, as one of them So distance yourself too much because they won't give a sh.. There's good and bad in every community, it's easy for politicians, for publicity,to cause mayhem One more thing putters, It's not only young girls that are being groomed Bomber Harris and RK regularly stalk the streets of Whalley Range Bowing before Bearded Mullahs to be taken down an alley way or dark room They plead for their walking manner to be rearranged And they shout, 'Long Live Pakistan, Pakistan Zindabad!' With walking sticks hitched up their rear ends, they hop around the Range like kangaroos Now, they're on a high, for them it's not that bad Mr England, if you want, you can try it too, you got nothing to lose
If he's brung religion into it then its wrong i was never trying to associate religion with nationality. i was just making a point on the general nationality and the differences.
[quote][p][bold]George Khan[/bold] wrote: Oh Mr England you're being groomed to be a chumcha By none other than the fickle Bomber Harris Jack has made a valid point but he has his own agenda He has generalised and maligned not only Pakistanis but Muslims This grooming is no blody good but I'm afraid it's not helped by the girls behaviour Why are they rife for exploitation? Young women at that age should have a notion of self-respect To be wary of weirdos, be it white,black or asian To be openly vulnerable opens the doors for men who seek to molest They need some awareness and education Now Mr England, before you become an apologist White folk down in areas of Mill Hill and Roman Road will see you, because of Jack, as one of them So distance yourself too much because they won't give a sh.. There's good and bad in every community, it's easy for politicians, for publicity,to cause mayhem One more thing putters, It's not only young girls that are being groomed Bomber Harris and RK regularly stalk the streets of Whalley Range Bowing before Bearded Mullahs to be taken down an alley way or dark room They plead for their walking manner to be rearranged And they shout, 'Long Live Pakistan, Pakistan Zindabad!' With walking sticks hitched up their rear ends, they hop around the Range like kangaroos Now, they're on a high, for them it's not that bad Mr England, if you want, you can try it too, you got nothing to lose[/p][/quote]If he's brung religion into it then its wrong i was never trying to associate religion with nationality. i was just making a point on the general nationality and the differences. mrengland07

3:02pm Tue 11 Jan 11

wing commander bomber harris says...

mrengland...... georgekhan. george....... mrengland. How ya doing george? Wondered where you where. Figured all the bad press would have kept you quiet, keeping your little head down huh? Nice to see that you are trying to suppress others opinions already. mr england, george is a make believe character from east is east film who lives in a world of his own

"Why are they rife for exploitation?" It's because the slimeballs are picking up young girls from troubled homes, from care hostels, from places where these kids have problems. These so called men are vultures, preying on the weak. All societies have their failures, it seems that yours are preying on ours. P.S. went to visit your bearded mullahs last night but they had been arrested by the GMP, can't think what for!!
mrengland...... georgekhan. george....... mrengland. How ya doing george? Wondered where you where. Figured all the bad press would have kept you quiet, keeping your little head down huh? Nice to see that you are trying to suppress others opinions already. mr england, george is a make believe character from east is east film who lives in a world of his own "Why are they rife for exploitation?" It's because the slimeballs are picking up young girls from troubled homes, from care hostels, from places where these kids have problems. These so called men are vultures, preying on the weak. All societies have their failures, it seems that yours are preying on ours. P.S. went to visit your bearded mullahs last night but they had been arrested by the GMP, can't think what for!! wing commander bomber harris

3:09pm Tue 11 Jan 11

mrengland07 says...

wing commander bomber harris wrote:
mrengland...... georgekhan. george....... mrengland. How ya doing george? Wondered where you where. Figured all the bad press would have kept you quiet, keeping your little head down huh? Nice to see that you are trying to suppress others opinions already. mr england, george is a make believe character from east is east film who lives in a world of his own "Why are they rife for exploitation?" It's because the slimeballs are picking up young girls from troubled homes, from care hostels, from places where these kids have problems. These so called men are vultures, preying on the weak. All societies have their failures, it seems that yours are preying on ours. P.S. went to visit your bearded mullahs last night but they had been arrested by the GMP, can't think what for!!
Can i ask when you say ''it seems that yours are preying on ours'' who you are refering to
[quote][p][bold]wing commander bomber harris[/bold] wrote: mrengland...... georgekhan. george....... mrengland. How ya doing george? Wondered where you where. Figured all the bad press would have kept you quiet, keeping your little head down huh? Nice to see that you are trying to suppress others opinions already. mr england, george is a make believe character from east is east film who lives in a world of his own "Why are they rife for exploitation?" It's because the slimeballs are picking up young girls from troubled homes, from care hostels, from places where these kids have problems. These so called men are vultures, preying on the weak. All societies have their failures, it seems that yours are preying on ours. P.S. went to visit your bearded mullahs last night but they had been arrested by the GMP, can't think what for!![/p][/quote]Can i ask when you say ''it seems that yours are preying on ours'' who you are refering to mrengland07

3:17pm Tue 11 Jan 11

wing commander bomber harris says...

mrengland07 wrote:
wing commander bomber harris wrote: mrengland...... georgekhan. george....... mrengland. How ya doing george? Wondered where you where. Figured all the bad press would have kept you quiet, keeping your little head down huh? Nice to see that you are trying to suppress others opinions already. mr england, george is a make believe character from east is east film who lives in a world of his own "Why are they rife for exploitation?" It's because the slimeballs are picking up young girls from troubled homes, from care hostels, from places where these kids have problems. These so called men are vultures, preying on the weak. All societies have their failures, it seems that yours are preying on ours. P.S. went to visit your bearded mullahs last night but they had been arrested by the GMP, can't think what for!!
Can i ask when you say ''it seems that yours are preying on ours'' who you are refering to
that's easy, 'your failures' (the young men who think that it's ok to pick up girls), 'our failures' (that our society has not done enough to protect these vulnerable kids). Hope this clarifys the issue.

Don't apologies to the dumb a$$ed wind up merchant George Khan, nobody mentioned religion but him. He twists and turns like the liar he is. We are old hats at this. He comes out with stupidity when he is cornered. Total halfwit!
[quote][p][bold]mrengland07[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]wing commander bomber harris[/bold] wrote: mrengland...... georgekhan. george....... mrengland. How ya doing george? Wondered where you where. Figured all the bad press would have kept you quiet, keeping your little head down huh? Nice to see that you are trying to suppress others opinions already. mr england, george is a make believe character from east is east film who lives in a world of his own "Why are they rife for exploitation?" It's because the slimeballs are picking up young girls from troubled homes, from care hostels, from places where these kids have problems. These so called men are vultures, preying on the weak. All societies have their failures, it seems that yours are preying on ours. P.S. went to visit your bearded mullahs last night but they had been arrested by the GMP, can't think what for!![/p][/quote]Can i ask when you say ''it seems that yours are preying on ours'' who you are refering to[/p][/quote]that's easy, 'your failures' (the young men who think that it's ok to pick up girls), 'our failures' (that our society has not done enough to protect these vulnerable kids). Hope this clarifys the issue. Don't apologies to the dumb a$$ed wind up merchant George Khan, nobody mentioned religion but him. He twists and turns like the liar he is. We are old hats at this. He comes out with stupidity when he is cornered. Total halfwit! wing commander bomber harris

7:19pm Tue 11 Jan 11

RK says...

George Khan wrote:
Oh Mr England you're being groomed to be a chumcha By none other than the fickle Bomber Harris Jack has made a valid point but he has his own agenda He has generalised and maligned not only Pakistanis but Muslims This grooming is no blody good but I'm afraid it's not helped by the girls behaviour Why are they rife for exploitation? Young women at that age should have a notion of self-respect To be wary of weirdos, be it white,black or asian To be openly vulnerable opens the doors for men who seek to molest They need some awareness and education Now Mr England, before you become an apologist White folk down in areas of Mill Hill and Roman Road will see you, because of Jack, as one of them So distance yourself too much because they won't give a sh.. There's good and bad in every community, it's easy for politicians, for publicity,to cause mayhem One more thing putters, It's not only young girls that are being groomed Bomber Harris and RK regularly stalk the streets of Whalley Range Bowing before Bearded Mullahs to be taken down an alley way or dark room They plead for their walking manner to be rearranged And they shout, 'Long Live Pakistan, Pakistan Zindabad!' With walking sticks hitched up their rear ends, they hop around the Range like kangaroos Now, they're on a high, for them it's not that bad Mr England, if you want, you can try it too, you got nothing to lose
Hi George (or whatever your real name is), how is your 'Hairdressing' getting on? Are all your mulla's gay? Anyway, it's time for you to get in your souped up Datsun and go looking for easy prey. I'm surprised it's taken you this long to get on this site but you're probably deeply ashamed of what you get up to really aren't you? Time for you to go to the Vue I think. I thought that you'd make sure that the girls were to blame as well - pervert. And one last thing, you're getting a little bit too wierd for me with all of your queerosexual tendancies. Cheerio gaylord.
[quote][p][bold]George Khan[/bold] wrote: Oh Mr England you're being groomed to be a chumcha By none other than the fickle Bomber Harris Jack has made a valid point but he has his own agenda He has generalised and maligned not only Pakistanis but Muslims This grooming is no blody good but I'm afraid it's not helped by the girls behaviour Why are they rife for exploitation? Young women at that age should have a notion of self-respect To be wary of weirdos, be it white,black or asian To be openly vulnerable opens the doors for men who seek to molest They need some awareness and education Now Mr England, before you become an apologist White folk down in areas of Mill Hill and Roman Road will see you, because of Jack, as one of them So distance yourself too much because they won't give a sh.. There's good and bad in every community, it's easy for politicians, for publicity,to cause mayhem One more thing putters, It's not only young girls that are being groomed Bomber Harris and RK regularly stalk the streets of Whalley Range Bowing before Bearded Mullahs to be taken down an alley way or dark room They plead for their walking manner to be rearranged And they shout, 'Long Live Pakistan, Pakistan Zindabad!' With walking sticks hitched up their rear ends, they hop around the Range like kangaroos Now, they're on a high, for them it's not that bad Mr England, if you want, you can try it too, you got nothing to lose[/p][/quote]Hi George (or whatever your real name is), how is your 'Hairdressing' getting on? Are all your mulla's gay? Anyway, it's time for you to get in your souped up Datsun and go looking for easy prey. I'm surprised it's taken you this long to get on this site but you're probably deeply ashamed of what you get up to really aren't you? Time for you to go to the Vue I think. I thought that you'd make sure that the girls were to blame as well - pervert. And one last thing, you're getting a little bit too wierd for me with all of your queerosexual tendancies. Cheerio gaylord. RK

8:17pm Tue 11 Jan 11

George Khan says...

Oh putters me ol' putters just getting ready for the evening shift at the chippy
I see the usual suspects are back in print
Trying their best at humour and being lippy
If you spuds had read my post you'd find that I've acknowledged the fringe
No, not my thick glorious hair,but the minority
Who partake in these shameful pursuit
But, putters, you have to remember even the Judge at the trial in Derby
Went out of his way to say that this was not secluded to an ethnic group
It's bound to get more media attention
when there's reference to the word pakistani
Jack knew the consequence that the public will make a correlation with Muslims
Why has Jack's botty been smacked in the national press
His comments reeks of a publicity stunt, not a genuine concern for the victims
As he will be standing down, he's maybe airing his personal views, let's not digress
Where were these comments when he needed the votes of the Pakistanis
He's as fickle as they come, even more so than the likes of Bomber Harris
So putters Bomber and the fat little bald chap in his flat cap, RK
I assume you're getting ready for the evening shift too
Are we planning to visit Whalley Range
Remember when you bow down in front of Mullahs they don't know what to do
That's why they stick their walking sticks 'up there' because they think you're deranged
Now Mr England wants to be anointed and touch his toes
Well, chumcha that he is, he might get more than he bargained for
RK and Bomber are old hands at this, can the novice bear the force?
If we see three Kangaroos hopping around the range tonight, we'll know
Oh putters me ol' putters just getting ready for the evening shift at the chippy I see the usual suspects are back in print Trying their best at humour and being lippy If you spuds had read my post you'd find that I've acknowledged the fringe No, not my thick glorious hair,but the minority Who partake in these shameful pursuit But, putters, you have to remember even the Judge at the trial in Derby Went out of his way to say that this was not secluded to an ethnic group It's bound to get more media attention when there's reference to the word pakistani Jack knew the consequence that the public will make a correlation with Muslims Why has Jack's botty been smacked in the national press His comments reeks of a publicity stunt, not a genuine concern for the victims As he will be standing down, he's maybe airing his personal views, let's not digress Where were these comments when he needed the votes of the Pakistanis He's as fickle as they come, even more so than the likes of Bomber Harris So putters Bomber and the fat little bald chap in his flat cap, RK I assume you're getting ready for the evening shift too Are we planning to visit Whalley Range Remember when you bow down in front of Mullahs they don't know what to do That's why they stick their walking sticks 'up there' because they think you're deranged Now Mr England wants to be anointed and touch his toes Well, chumcha that he is, he might get more than he bargained for RK and Bomber are old hands at this, can the novice bear the force? If we see three Kangaroos hopping around the range tonight, we'll know George Khan

8:55pm Tue 11 Jan 11

ghost of sceptic says...

mrengland07 wrote:
As an asian- NOT A PAKISTANI, its a good sign that someone has realised who the bad image of the asian community are. I made this point 2-3 weeks ago on another article that asians come across the same but there is a big difference between indians, pakistani etc and i said pakistanis are the bad image of the asian community because as an indian you can see how rude pakistani are. But obviously people come up with comments like your all the same..go back to ur own country bla bla bla... but at least someone has recognised the root cause and now its out in the open...its the pakistani. i can tell you if there was less pakistanis in Britian the image of asians in britian would be a more positive one.
dead right in what you say pakistani and indian people are chalk and cheese. my ex partner worked in blackburn the large building just off the boulevard she always commented on how pleasant the indian people who worked there were but was less than complementary about young male pakistanis who had no respect for white women who eanked above them and treat them with a total lack of respect! FACT.
[quote][p][bold]mrengland07[/bold] wrote: As an asian- NOT A PAKISTANI, its a good sign that someone has realised who the bad image of the asian community are. I made this point 2-3 weeks ago on another article that asians come across the same but there is a big difference between indians, pakistani etc and i said pakistanis are the bad image of the asian community because as an indian you can see how rude pakistani are. But obviously people come up with comments like your all the same..go back to ur own country bla bla bla... but at least someone has recognised the root cause and now its out in the open...its the pakistani. i can tell you if there was less pakistanis in Britian the image of asians in britian would be a more positive one.[/p][/quote]dead right in what you say pakistani and indian people are chalk and cheese. my ex partner worked in blackburn the large building just off the boulevard she always commented on how pleasant the indian people who worked there were but was less than complementary about young male pakistanis who had no respect for white women who eanked above them and treat them with a total lack of respect! FACT. ghost of sceptic

9:58pm Tue 11 Jan 11

mrengland07 says...

George Khan wrote:
Oh putters me ol' putters just getting ready for the evening shift at the chippy I see the usual suspects are back in print Trying their best at humour and being lippy If you spuds had read my post you'd find that I've acknowledged the fringe No, not my thick glorious hair,but the minority Who partake in these shameful pursuit But, putters, you have to remember even the Judge at the trial in Derby Went out of his way to say that this was not secluded to an ethnic group It's bound to get more media attention when there's reference to the word pakistani Jack knew the consequence that the public will make a correlation with Muslims Why has Jack's botty been smacked in the national press His comments reeks of a publicity stunt, not a genuine concern for the victims As he will be standing down, he's maybe airing his personal views, let's not digress Where were these comments when he needed the votes of the Pakistanis He's as fickle as they come, even more so than the likes of Bomber Harris So putters Bomber and the fat little bald chap in his flat cap, RK I assume you're getting ready for the evening shift too Are we planning to visit Whalley Range Remember when you bow down in front of Mullahs they don't know what to do That's why they stick their walking sticks 'up there' because they think you're deranged Now Mr England wants to be anointed and touch his toes Well, chumcha that he is, he might get more than he bargained for RK and Bomber are old hands at this, can the novice bear the force? If we see three Kangaroos hopping around the range tonight, we'll know
Yes you know the judge may have said this is not aimed that an ethnic group but you know what it actually is. You know in every community theres always a minority of idiots who give a bad name to their group. Well the case for pakistani group is that its not minority its pretty much 90%+ of pakistani people. Most of them esepcially young pakistani males pocess a great deal of cockyness which they think is a good personal attribute which is a shame becasue they try to be something they are not and in the end they end up getting panned
[quote][p][bold]George Khan[/bold] wrote: Oh putters me ol' putters just getting ready for the evening shift at the chippy I see the usual suspects are back in print Trying their best at humour and being lippy If you spuds had read my post you'd find that I've acknowledged the fringe No, not my thick glorious hair,but the minority Who partake in these shameful pursuit But, putters, you have to remember even the Judge at the trial in Derby Went out of his way to say that this was not secluded to an ethnic group It's bound to get more media attention when there's reference to the word pakistani Jack knew the consequence that the public will make a correlation with Muslims Why has Jack's botty been smacked in the national press His comments reeks of a publicity stunt, not a genuine concern for the victims As he will be standing down, he's maybe airing his personal views, let's not digress Where were these comments when he needed the votes of the Pakistanis He's as fickle as they come, even more so than the likes of Bomber Harris So putters Bomber and the fat little bald chap in his flat cap, RK I assume you're getting ready for the evening shift too Are we planning to visit Whalley Range Remember when you bow down in front of Mullahs they don't know what to do That's why they stick their walking sticks 'up there' because they think you're deranged Now Mr England wants to be anointed and touch his toes Well, chumcha that he is, he might get more than he bargained for RK and Bomber are old hands at this, can the novice bear the force? If we see three Kangaroos hopping around the range tonight, we'll know[/p][/quote]Yes you know the judge may have said this is not aimed that an ethnic group but you know what it actually is. You know in every community theres always a minority of idiots who give a bad name to their group. Well the case for pakistani group is that its not minority its pretty much 90%+ of pakistani people. Most of them esepcially young pakistani males pocess a great deal of cockyness which they think is a good personal attribute which is a shame becasue they try to be something they are not and in the end they end up getting panned mrengland07

11:18am Wed 12 Jan 11

supportin op engage team says...

these disgusting asain men need sorting out they may have a culteral need to do these horrid crimes but they need to be told that this is not allowed in this country or they will be punished (btw i think the punishment queiser naveed and kulfar hussain was way to short) . these boys and men need quick hard punishments and to be named and shamed . i will help the engage to catch these disgusting people who think they are the best thing since sliced bread which believe you me they are FAR from that . i was once a victim of this crimes and they tried to ruin my life and turn me against everyone but them. i kept strong and eventually so them for what they really are dirty, scum, rapists,disrespectfu

l, filth of this earth need to all be locked up OR SENT PACKING blackburn need to sort this out its absolutely appalling ACTION MUST BE TAKEN NOW !!!!!!!
these disgusting asain men need sorting out they may have a culteral need to do these horrid crimes but they need to be told that this is not allowed in this country or they will be punished (btw i think the punishment queiser naveed and kulfar hussain was way to short) . these boys and men need quick hard punishments and to be named and shamed . i will help the engage to catch these disgusting people who think they are the best thing since sliced bread which believe you me they are FAR from that . i was once a victim of this crimes and they tried to ruin my life and turn me against everyone but them. i kept strong and eventually so them for what they really are dirty, scum, rapists,disrespectfu l, filth of this earth need to all be locked up OR SENT PACKING blackburn need to sort this out its absolutely appalling ACTION MUST BE TAKEN NOW !!!!!!! supportin op engage team

9:16pm Wed 12 Jan 11

johnleo says...

Imran786 wrote:
These litlle tarts are slappers they hang around whalley range to get laid where are they parents probably smacked out of thier heads and on King Street.
Wake up
peodphiles first line of defence.
"The child led me on."
[quote][p][bold]Imran786[/bold] wrote: These litlle tarts are slappers they hang around whalley range to get laid where are they parents probably smacked out of thier heads and on King Street. Wake up[/p][/quote]peodphiles first line of defence. "The child led me on." johnleo

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