Sex grooming debate continues (From Lancashire Telegraph)
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Sex grooming debate continues
11:40am Wednesday 12th January 2011 in News
Sex grooming debate
COMMENTS by Blackburn MP Jack Straw that some Pakistani sex groomers see white girls as ‘easy meat’ has met with strong reaction from many quarters.
This week the Lancashire Telegraph, which launched a campaign to highlight the menace in 2006, set out the facts behind this specific sex crime.
The Lancashire Telegraph also called for a full and open debate, and this week we will provide a platform for a series of commentators.
Click on the links below to read the viewpoints.
* Bayyinah Foundation member: Questions we must ask
parents
* County councillor Dr Misfar Hassan: Straw's
comments were a surprise to me
* Former police chief Mick Gradwell: What Straw said so
carefully is true
* Lancashire Telegraph comment: Time for an open debate
* Asian Image comment: Who'd be a British
Pakistani man right now?
Comments(22)
burner
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12:58pm Tue 11 Jan 11
Lifeinthemix
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2:02pm Tue 11 Jan 11
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This is not about protecting anyone, this is about the state attempting to gain yet more power over the lives of the fearful.
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this whole topic is freaky gotta be Intel
midas
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2:52pm Tue 11 Jan 11
Lifeinthemix wrote:Hello the appologist has reared his ugly head!
what business has the state determining what kind of male female matches are correct? . This is not about protecting anyone, this is about the state attempting to gain yet more power over the lives of the fearful. . this whole topic is freaky gotta be Intel
Walsh
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3:01pm Tue 11 Jan 11
Lifeinthemix wrote:The state does have a business when the victim's are below the age of consent. Look at today's headlines, there are alleged victims of abuse who are thirteen years old. We are not talking about grey areas where the victim appears to be sixteen, we are talking children. If you want to champion alleged paedophiles then go ahead. I know which section of society I would like to see protected.
what business has the state determining what kind of male female matches are correct?
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This is not about protecting anyone, this is about the state attempting to gain yet more power over the lives of the fearful.
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this whole topic is freaky gotta be Intel
wing commander bomber harris
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3:08pm Tue 11 Jan 11
Lifeinthemix wrote:got to agree with the others lifeinthemix... this is a silly comment from you.
what business has the state determining what kind of male female matches are correct? . This is not about protecting anyone, this is about the state attempting to gain yet more power over the lives of the fearful. . this whole topic is freaky gotta be Intel
there's nanny state and there's protecting the wellbeing of others
bobo898
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3:21pm Tue 11 Jan 11
midas
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3:29pm Tue 11 Jan 11
wing commander bomber harris wrote:This was his contribution yesterday!
Lifeinthemix wrote: what business has the state determining what kind of male female matches are correct? . This is not about protecting anyone, this is about the state attempting to gain yet more power over the lives of the fearful. . this whole topic is freaky gotta be Intelgot to agree with the others lifeinthemix... this is a silly comment from you. there's nanny state and there's protecting the wellbeing of others
Lifeinthemix, Accrington says...
1:35pm Mon 10 Jan 11
Interesting is the fact it has not been presented in the correct light here, many of these girls are in one way or another connected to either the scientologist's, the Evangelical Churches, are in care or operate for the corporate private security, be they mentored by or training to be.
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Entrapment is in many cases the MO here, but not in all cases.
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Balance is required in this debate...
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If he wsn't recognised on this site for what he is, you would be worried hes wandering the streets!
wing commander bomber harris
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3:31pm Tue 11 Jan 11
midas wrote:have to agree
wing commander bomber harris wrote:This was his contribution yesterday! Lifeinthemix, Accrington says... 1:35pm Mon 10 Jan 11 Interesting is the fact it has not been presented in the correct light here, many of these girls are in one way or another connected to either the scientologist's, the Evangelical Churches, are in care or operate for the corporate private security, be they mentored by or training to be. . Entrapment is in many cases the MO here, but not in all cases. . Balance is required in this debate... . If he wsn't recognised on this site for what he is, you would be worried hes wandering the streets!Lifeinthemix wrote: what business has the state determining what kind of male female matches are correct? . This is not about protecting anyone, this is about the state attempting to gain yet more power over the lives of the fearful. . this whole topic is freaky gotta be Intelgot to agree with the others lifeinthemix... this is a silly comment from you. there's nanny state and there's protecting the wellbeing of others
CapitaBackHander
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3:32pm Tue 11 Jan 11
Just watch how many comments are removed.
Nothing racist - we knew this was happening (remember Darwen Travelodge?) widely but do gooders are too scared and others scared of been labelled racist.
No idea why a white girl would get in the cars though - they are very creepy!
wing commander bomber harris
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3:35pm Tue 11 Jan 11
CapitaBackHander wrote:as always, wise words buddy.
I read the headline that said the L.E.T. have called for a full and open debate - TOTAL NONSENSE. Just watch how many comments are removed. Nothing racist - we knew this was happening (remember Darwen Travelodge?) widely but do gooders are too scared and others scared of been labelled racist. No idea why a white girl would get in the cars though - they are very creepy!
midas
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4:21pm Tue 11 Jan 11
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Lifeinthemix
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7:17pm Tue 11 Jan 11
g'', this is a term usually used in paedophile cases.
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I want to know were this script is going and more to the point I await the answer to this hyped problem on its way from the corporate dictators.
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I understand most see this script within the sex and race arena, but it would be foolish to wipe aside the bigger play I am pushing here....
Chris P Bacon
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7:29pm Tue 11 Jan 11
Just a thought.
ghost of sceptic
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9:05pm Tue 11 Jan 11
Lifeinthemix
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9:17pm Tue 11 Jan 11
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Drugs are the major factor in bringing the two together, and as with the 1960's, loose and group sex go hand in hand, and to think this is only going on interracial, is a little off the mark.
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Gangster culture, drugs, and 24 7sex on tv, **** of all description at the press of a mouse and you get this behaviour.
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As a musician I was involved in the 90's club scene, as the clubs began to die with the introduction of cocaine and in sync with the explosion of gangster rap, the drugs did not cease they turned into home parties. Cocaine is a completely different drug to the ecstasy of the 90's love culture, love took on a whole new meaning, the script written by the rap sub culture is the backdrop for this type of animalistic mindset.
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Naturally because we are speaking of two distinct sides here, it is the knee jerk response to refuse to accept the people on your own side are some how guilty, that it must only be so under duress.
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Remembrance of your own teenage years needs to be in this loop, with the understanding children for the last 20 years have had a lot more chemistry at their disposal and a whole lot more sexual imagery from society as a whole. As a society we need to move to undo the programme the gangster scene has created for the generation without hope, minus hope helps to bring on this animal behaviour in the youth so as the cuts hit home we could see this mindset move up a whole lot more.
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Given these events involve Asians, then perhaps we should look more on the side of the fact that poverty seems to be the door into that very scene, hence we see a particular issue as belonging only to one racial group presently, but these cuts are going to make a lot more people slide down the morality chart, for a lot of people, to attack this behaviour at the level this script is clearly aiming to achieve, then we fail to deal with the cause and more to the point the state's role with these cuts in expanding it.
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That is a breech of the peace being formulated by this corporate Crown coalition government, under statutes at that.
midas
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11:55am Wed 12 Jan 11
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Writing long diatribes doesn't make you a journalist!
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conceit - when you are too proud of yourself or your actions
notchuffed
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12:25pm Wed 12 Jan 11
Lifeinthemix
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12:27pm Wed 12 Jan 11
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just for you midas....
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I use the term acting to present the fact I am not a trained journalist. I fell into this MO after falling very foul of the Freemasons, but the actions I undertake are the same as those the old school journos used.....
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Its not brain surgery bud, read my words instead of spitting feathers the moment you see my name....
Chris P Bacon
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5:20pm Wed 12 Jan 11
Lifeinthemix wrote:'Acting'? 'Acting' what, exactly? Acting the Big-I-Am? You've failed.
midas
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just for you midas....
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I use the term acting to present the fact I am not a trained journalist. I fell into this MO after falling very foul of the Freemasons, but the actions I undertake are the same as those the old school journos used.....
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Its not brain surgery bud, read my words instead of spitting feathers the moment you see my name....
notchuffed
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5:21pm Wed 12 Jan 11
Lifeinthemix wrote:What a load of rubbish quote "falling very foul of the Freemasons" as if they exert influence over the public sector. Do you think they go round in gangs or use underground sinister methods. Too much Dan Brown is in your imaginations which proves you are just expounding your non-existence as a so called journalist. I think you have now practically slated most organisations. When will you move on to the Salvation Army, Doctor Barnardos, Red Cross, Boys Brigade and Boy Scout movement. Methinks you are somewhat deluded
midas . just for you midas.... . I use the term acting to present the fact I am not a trained journalist. I fell into this MO after falling very foul of the Freemasons, but the actions I undertake are the same as those the old school journos used..... . Its not brain surgery bud, read my words instead of spitting feathers the moment you see my name....
Lifeinthemix
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6:34pm Wed 12 Jan 11
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Interesting conclusion but fortunately its not about thinking, I know....
Already done Barnardos, Red Cross etc...you must have missed it.
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wing commander bomber harris says...
12:24pm Tue 11 Jan 11