Bacup petting farm closed down over e-coli claims

A PETTING farm in East Lancashire has been closed down by council bosses over claims of an E-Coli risk.

Animal Quackers in Bacup has become the first such farm in the UK to be shut on public health grounds.

But Terry Bork, who runs the Huttock Top Farm venture, insists he is being victimised and is fighting to reopen the venue early next week.

The move is the latest in a long-running battle between Rossendale Council and Mr Bork.

Under the closure order, granted by Reedley magistrates on Thursday under the Health and Social Care Act, Animal Quackers must not operate for 28 days, amid concerns over sanitation and walkways at the farm.

An inspection was carried out by town hall environmental health staff last weekend at the Newchurch Old Road premises but the saga has been ongoing for more than six months.

Former kitchen fitter Mr Bork, 50, said: “They are saying people are being put at risk but it is in the same state as when they did their first investigation and they brought their own children out to the farm.”

He says he will be asking his Waterfoot-based solicitor Gareth Jones to apply for the order to be lifted on Monday.

Mr Bork added: “Ninety per cent of the work has been done we are just waiting for paint to dry now. It’s about putting washing stations in and making sure the walkways have straw and putting a fence around the mucking area.”

An online petition containing 725 signatures, opposing the council’s stance, has been compiled, featuring a number of parents who have held chidren’s parties there.

Mr Bork said he was angry that the order has resulted in the cancellation of two such parties, leaving around 40 youngsters disappointed.

But council bosses are adamant they were left with no choice after repeated failures to comply with health and safety advice.

Rebecca Lawlor, the council’s health and housing manager, said: “The council has been working very hard to persuade the operators of the business and owners of the premises to make the necessary improvements to Animal Quackers to make it a safe environment for visitors.

“We have given them more than enough opportunity to undertake the work. In its current state, the farm poses a significant risk to public health and puts visitors at risk of contracting illnesses which can have a long-term effect upon the health of people such as E-Coli and potential kidney failure.”

E-Coli can cause diarrhoea , fever and vomiting among adults but can result in potential kidney failure for young victims.

Coun Helen Jackson, housing and environment health cabinet member, said: “The council has a duty to protect the public.

“Unfortunately failing to act or not addressing the severity of the problem can lead to fatalities and we can’t allow that to happen.

“We’ve tried a whole host of actions from meetings and letters to more formal enforcement measures but still the owners have made little effort to address these issues.

“This has left the council no other alternative but to seek a formal closure of Animal Quackers until it can be operated in a safe and healthy manner.”

Comments (19)

4:44pm Sat 30 Jun 12

ste.g says...

“We’ve tried a whole host of actions from meetings and letters to more formal enforcement measures but still the owners have made little effort to address these issues.

says it all then
“We’ve tried a whole host of actions from meetings and letters to more formal enforcement measures but still the owners have made little effort to address these issues. says it all then ste.g

5:27pm Sat 30 Jun 12

Michael@ClitheroeSince58 says...

Saves them from getting molested by the horse man
Saves them from getting molested by the horse man Michael@ClitheroeSince58

5:39pm Sat 30 Jun 12

Malthus says...

Michael@ClitheroeSin
ce58
wrote:
Saves them from getting molested by the horse man
I was just going t post something similar. You beat me to it. Lol
[quote][p][bold]Michael@ClitheroeSin ce58[/bold] wrote: Saves them from getting molested by the horse man[/p][/quote]I was just going t post something similar. You beat me to it. Lol Malthus

5:47pm Sat 30 Jun 12

RUinsane says...

Michael@ClitheroeSin
ce58
wrote:
Saves them from getting molested by the horse man
Is that considered heavy petting?
[quote][p][bold]Michael@ClitheroeSin ce58[/bold] wrote: Saves them from getting molested by the horse man[/p][/quote]Is that considered heavy petting? RUinsane

8:44pm Sat 30 Jun 12

Paul The Octopus Lives! says...

Don't even joke about the Osawldtwistle horse man!

I went into Accrington Police Station last week with a bit of a cough. I was immediately arrested, put in a cell for four hours and then charged.

Last time I moan about feeling a little hoarse.
Don't even joke about the Osawldtwistle horse man! I went into Accrington Police Station last week with a bit of a cough. I was immediately arrested, put in a cell for four hours and then charged. Last time I moan about feeling a little hoarse. Paul The Octopus Lives!

8:24am Sun 1 Jul 12

woolywords says...

Paul The Octopus Lives! wrote:
Don't even joke about the Osawldtwistle horse man!

I went into Accrington Police Station last week with a bit of a cough. I was immediately arrested, put in a cell for four hours and then charged.

Last time I moan about feeling a little hoarse.
and I hope the fine you for it..
lots of puns!
[quote][p][bold]Paul The Octopus Lives![/bold] wrote: Don't even joke about the Osawldtwistle horse man! I went into Accrington Police Station last week with a bit of a cough. I was immediately arrested, put in a cell for four hours and then charged. Last time I moan about feeling a little hoarse.[/p][/quote]and I hope the fine you for it.. lots of puns! woolywords

8:53am Sun 1 Jul 12

spendmymoneywisely says...

Glad to read that you are all taking this seriously. Whilst I understand that the Environmental Health people have to protect themselves from accusations of negligence my main sympathy lies with the farm. Hopefully the required measures can be completed within the 28 day closure period.

It would be interesting to note if the EH people actually gave any help and advice or whether it just took a punitive approach. This is yet another example of the small businessman struggling to make his contribution to local people & the local economy in the face of great odds.

Surely the Council inspected the farm when it first opened so what has gone wrong?. Did the Council offer any grants or loans to help him upgrade the site?. It could be a useful tourist attraction but is never mentioned in official tourism literature - why?. The more questions one asks the more one feels that there is an agenda.
Glad to read that you are all taking this seriously. Whilst I understand that the Environmental Health people have to protect themselves from accusations of negligence my main sympathy lies with the farm. Hopefully the required measures can be completed within the 28 day closure period. It would be interesting to note if the EH people actually gave any help and advice or whether it just took a punitive approach. This is yet another example of the small businessman struggling to make his contribution to local people & the local economy in the face of great odds. Surely the Council inspected the farm when it first opened so what has gone wrong?. Did the Council offer any grants or loans to help him upgrade the site?. It could be a useful tourist attraction but is never mentioned in official tourism literature - why?. The more questions one asks the more one feels that there is an agenda. spendmymoneywisely

9:04am Sun 1 Jul 12

woolywords says...

To be honest, if we continue at this rate, I fear for the future of the human race, entirely.

Eating soil, playing with worms, drinking from the garden pond and swallowing water in the swimming pool is a part of growing up. If we continue at this rate, wrapping children is so much cotton wool, feeding them antibiotics for the slightest sniffle, how will they fare in the World?

Our forebears lived through some really terrible conditions, yet managed to live long enough to create children. I know, am one of them.

There is a lot to be said for being a boy, with our natural aversion to soap and water. It's what we do, being mucky.

If it wasn't for us boys being so, there would be no children.

These petting farms expose children to things that they just don't get in schools nowadays, like ticks, fleas and especially, ringworm. I am willing to bet my life savings that, none of those imposing these rules, have ever suffered the head-shaving and scalp painting with Gentian Violet that my generation did. And look how I turned out!

And if you are in school right now, doing something biology based; like invent a pill for badgers, before all these idiots kill them all off.
To misquote Marie Annoinette, let them eat cack, if the school dinners won't kill them off.
To be honest, if we continue at this rate, I fear for the future of the human race, entirely. Eating soil, playing with worms, drinking from the garden pond and swallowing water in the swimming pool is a part of growing up. If we continue at this rate, wrapping children is so much cotton wool, feeding them antibiotics for the slightest sniffle, how will they fare in the World? Our forebears lived through some really terrible conditions, yet managed to live long enough to create children. I know, am one of them. There is a lot to be said for being a boy, with our natural aversion to soap and water. It's what we do, being mucky. If it wasn't for us boys being so, there would be no children. These petting farms expose children to things that they just don't get in schools nowadays, like ticks, fleas and especially, ringworm. I am willing to bet my life savings that, none of those imposing these rules, have ever suffered the head-shaving and scalp painting with Gentian Violet that my generation did. And look how I turned out! And if you are in school right now, doing something biology based; like invent a pill for badgers, before all these idiots kill them all off. To misquote Marie Annoinette, let them eat cack, if the school dinners won't kill them off. woolywords

9:33am Sun 1 Jul 12

woolywords says...

spendmymoneywisely wrote:
Glad to read that you are all taking this seriously. Whilst I understand that the Environmental Health people have to protect themselves from accusations of negligence my main sympathy lies with the farm. Hopefully the required measures can be completed within the 28 day closure period.

It would be interesting to note if the EH people actually gave any help and advice or whether it just took a punitive approach. This is yet another example of the small businessman struggling to make his contribution to local people & the local economy in the face of great odds.

Surely the Council inspected the farm when it first opened so what has gone wrong?. Did the Council offer any grants or loans to help him upgrade the site?. It could be a useful tourist attraction but is never mentioned in official tourism literature - why?. The more questions one asks the more one feels that there is an agenda.
Oh, let's take it seriously..
The thing is, when you meet someone from the Council, do this..
Wash your hands before..
Wash them afterwards..
Ensure that you count you fingers, both before and afterwards.

One cannot help but think, in spite of the synonyms section Rogets Thesaurus to the contrary, the words Council and corruption should be linked.

I question your use of the term of agenda in this context, far better to imply, self serving agenda, which would garner some appreciation.

Some child has got a case of thruppenny bits, shortly after visiting a petting farm, so what? It's not the farm nor animals fault, rather the fact that someone wants a bit of compo.

Tell you what, anyone that has had a Gypsy tummy after a Ruby Murray or even kebab, phone the EH and get them sorted out. Then let's see how they get on.
In the US they call it a class action, I propose a new term, a splatter action. Claim papers, to be signed in black biro. Claims signed with something brown and runny, will not be entered into.
[quote][p][bold]spendmymoneywisely[/bold] wrote: Glad to read that you are all taking this seriously. Whilst I understand that the Environmental Health people have to protect themselves from accusations of negligence my main sympathy lies with the farm. Hopefully the required measures can be completed within the 28 day closure period. It would be interesting to note if the EH people actually gave any help and advice or whether it just took a punitive approach. This is yet another example of the small businessman struggling to make his contribution to local people & the local economy in the face of great odds. Surely the Council inspected the farm when it first opened so what has gone wrong?. Did the Council offer any grants or loans to help him upgrade the site?. It could be a useful tourist attraction but is never mentioned in official tourism literature - why?. The more questions one asks the more one feels that there is an agenda.[/p][/quote]Oh, let's take it seriously.. The thing is, when you meet someone from the Council, do this.. Wash your hands before.. Wash them afterwards.. Ensure that you count you fingers, both before and afterwards. One cannot help but think, in spite of the synonyms section Rogets Thesaurus to the contrary, the words Council and corruption should be linked. I question your use of the term of agenda in this context, far better to imply, self serving agenda, which would garner some appreciation. Some child has got a case of thruppenny bits, shortly after visiting a petting farm, so what? It's not the farm nor animals fault, rather the fact that someone wants a bit of compo. Tell you what, anyone that has had a Gypsy tummy after a Ruby Murray or even kebab, phone the EH and get them sorted out. Then let's see how they get on. In the US they call it a class action, I propose a new term, a splatter action. Claim papers, to be signed in black biro. Claims signed with something brown and runny, will not be entered into. woolywords

10:11am Sun 1 Jul 12

woolywords says...

Dear Mr Bork,
Have you asked these same people that seek to enforce the stringent conditions upon you about the local bars in your area, where petting also takes place?

Do they, in fact, test the wet pads in the banks/post offices or counting houses, for cross-contamination between the human species or it just that, to dignify their existence, they opt for the easy option, the poor dumb animals?

Are they aware that, E-coli, in it's many forms, exists within the human digestive tract and is easily transferable between species? So easy to point to the noble animal, as it's source, when it may have contracted it, from a petting human.

Are they aware that, both cats and dogs are prone to lick their own anus, to keep it clean, then lick your face, a sign of friendship, by sharing that good health? How many homes with cats and dogs have they raided recently?

The interchange of bacterium and virus, not virii, is that thing that makes us so unique amongst lifeforms on this planet, we survive and thrive because of it. The very stuff that we take for granted are stuffed with it, bread, cheese and beer or wine. We used to drink beer because the water was not good.
Someone, somewhere, needs a serious reality check before they endanger the human species.
Germs are good, over protectionism, for the justification of your job, is not.

I move, that we do away these psuedo-scientists, do I have a second?
Dear Mr Bork, Have you asked these same people that seek to enforce the stringent conditions upon you about the local bars in your area, where petting also takes place? Do they, in fact, test the wet pads in the banks/post offices or counting houses, for cross-contamination between the human species or it just that, to dignify their existence, they opt for the easy option, the poor dumb animals? Are they aware that, E-coli, in it's many forms, exists within the human digestive tract and is easily transferable between species? So easy to point to the noble animal, as it's source, when it may have contracted it, from a petting human. Are they aware that, both cats and dogs are prone to lick their own anus, to keep it clean, then lick your face, a sign of friendship, by sharing that good health? How many homes with cats and dogs have they raided recently? The interchange of bacterium and virus, not virii, is that thing that makes us so unique amongst lifeforms on this planet, we survive and thrive because of it. The very stuff that we take for granted are stuffed with it, bread, cheese and beer or wine. We used to drink beer because the water was not good. Someone, somewhere, needs a serious reality check before they endanger the human species. Germs are good, over protectionism, for the justification of your job, is not. I move, that we do away these psuedo-scientists, do I have a second? woolywords

10:26am Sun 1 Jul 12

woolywords says...

Coun. Helen Jackson, housing and environment health cabinet member, said: “The council has a duty to protect the public." endquote

When was the last time that your people tested the playgrounds within your area, all of which are public areas. None of which have the requirement that you intend to impose upon this individual.

Helen, you have your name in the papers, and it is so noted, your electorate will be informed, come election time, for frivolous abuse of position.
Learn this phrase, what is sauce for the goose, is also sauce for the gander.

One cannot, in good conscience, impose upon a private individual, that, which is within your remit wholly ignored. To do so, is frankly, bringing your office into disrepute and worthy of contempt.
Coun. Helen Jackson, housing and environment health cabinet member, said: “The council has a duty to protect the public." endquote When was the last time that your people tested the playgrounds within your area, all of which are public areas. None of which have the requirement that you intend to impose upon this individual. Helen, you have your name in the papers, and it is so noted, your electorate will be informed, come election time, for frivolous abuse of position. Learn this phrase, what is sauce for the goose, is also sauce for the gander. One cannot, in good conscience, impose upon a private individual, that, which is within your remit wholly ignored. To do so, is frankly, bringing your office into disrepute and worthy of contempt. woolywords

10:54am Sun 1 Jul 12

spendmymoneywisely says...

At the risk of appearing to monopolizing this site I must say that I agree with everything which you have written in your various comments on this subject.
At the risk of appearing to monopolizing this site I must say that I agree with everything which you have written in your various comments on this subject. spendmymoneywisely

3:07pm Sun 1 Jul 12

pdb951 says...

I agree with woolywords 100%. Lets get rid of these jobsworths. Give the a real job and lets abolish this bull****
I agree with woolywords 100%. Lets get rid of these jobsworths. Give the a real job and lets abolish this bull**** pdb951

8:19pm Sun 1 Jul 12

Michael@ClitheroeSince58 says...

Well I though the ossy horse molester was funny ;)
Well I though the ossy horse molester was funny ;) Michael@ClitheroeSince58

11:49pm Sun 1 Jul 12

gazzandste says...

Rossendale council again. What a bunch of clowns. They want people to come to their great valley, why dont they leave people to get on with their contribution to the tourism in the area. Come to Burnley where tourism is being promoted, loads of things to see and do. Rossendale council wake up, you have got one of the most wonderful countryside in this area. People like Terry Bork contributes to your very exhistance, dont knock him, help him is the word.
Rossendale council again. What a bunch of clowns. They want people to come to their great valley, why dont they leave people to get on with their contribution to the tourism in the area. Come to Burnley where tourism is being promoted, loads of things to see and do. Rossendale council wake up, you have got one of the most wonderful countryside in this area. People like Terry Bork contributes to your very exhistance, dont knock him, help him is the word. gazzandste

11:54pm Sun 1 Jul 12

XfarmgirlX says...

This petting farm is being victimised , I've been there when the council have and no matter what farmer terry does it's never enough. The hygiene levels there are the best I've ever seen ( wash stations, hand dispensers), you are constantly being told to wash your hands and put gel on your hands . What do they want him to do supply disposable body suits , mask n gloves . It's a farm for gods sake . And can I point out there has NEVER been 1 single report of anyone being I'll after visiting Animal Quackers . Keep goin farmer terry your doin a great job for the kids and tha community .
This petting farm is being victimised , I've been there when the council have and no matter what farmer terry does it's never enough. The hygiene levels there are the best I've ever seen ( wash stations, hand dispensers), you are constantly being told to wash your hands and put gel on your hands . What do they want him to do supply disposable body suits , mask n gloves . It's a farm for gods sake . And can I point out there has NEVER been 1 single report of anyone being I'll after visiting Animal Quackers . Keep goin farmer terry your doin a great job for the kids and tha community . XfarmgirlX

4:19pm Mon 2 Jul 12

HUSH, The UK E.coli Support Group says...

I don't know the circumstances regarding the farm's failure to comply with health and safety regulations but what I do know is that most of the comments above have been made with a degree of ignorance. My son became infected with E.coli O157 when he was 12 and I became involved in the work HUSH (Haemolytic Uraemic Syndrome Help), a charity that raises awareness of the bacterium and supports affected families. I'd like to comment on a few points raised:-

Firstly, Helen Jackson and her team could only be accused of a "frivolous abuse of position" if they ignored any shortcomings regarding visitor safety to the farm and should be applauded for the stance they have taken. If things aren't right then they should be fixed before we allow children and other visitors to go there.

A mild case of infection does not simply result in the "thruppenny bits", but can be an extremely painful and distressing condition that lasts several days. If identified that child would be excluded from school/childcare until 2 consecutive negative results were obtained. This can take weeks - a nightmare for working parents!

A more severe infection can lead to Haemolytic Uraemic Syndrome (HUS) where kidney failure is the main symptom and there is no cure. The sufferers are treated with dialysis, plasma exchange and blood transfusions until they either die or recover (sometimes with ongoing health problems).

Yes, there are many different strains of the E.coli and they're not all harmful to humans but those that are (O157 included) have mutated over the years and the toxins they release are life-threatening. Indeed O157 only came to light in the early 1980's.

Some of you may remember the E.coli outbreak at Godstone Farm in 2009 when 93 people became infected, of whom 76 (82%) were under 10 years of age. 27 were admitted to hospital and 17 (all children) developed HUS. I don't think anyone involved in the Godstone outbreak will back any of the comments above. Indeed, this resulted in an independent investigation of the practices at open farms and steps were taken to ensure a similar incident does not happen again.
I don't know the circumstances regarding the farm's failure to comply with health and safety regulations but what I do know is that most of the comments above have been made with a degree of ignorance. My son became infected with E.coli O157 when he was 12 and I became involved in the work HUSH (Haemolytic Uraemic Syndrome Help), a charity that raises awareness of the bacterium and supports affected families. I'd like to comment on a few points raised:- Firstly, Helen Jackson and her team could only be accused of a "frivolous abuse of position" if they ignored any shortcomings regarding visitor safety to the farm and should be applauded for the stance they have taken. If things aren't right then they should be fixed before we allow children and other visitors to go there. A mild case of infection does not simply result in the "thruppenny bits", but can be an extremely painful and distressing condition that lasts several days. If identified that child would be excluded from school/childcare until 2 consecutive negative results were obtained. This can take weeks - a nightmare for working parents! A more severe infection can lead to Haemolytic Uraemic Syndrome (HUS) where kidney failure is the main symptom and there is no cure. The sufferers are treated with dialysis, plasma exchange and blood transfusions until they either die or recover (sometimes with ongoing health problems). Yes, there are many different strains of the E.coli and they're not all harmful to humans but those that are (O157 included) have mutated over the years and the toxins they release are life-threatening. Indeed O157 only came to light in the early 1980's. Some of you may remember the E.coli outbreak at Godstone Farm in 2009 when 93 people became infected, of whom 76 (82%) were under 10 years of age. 27 were admitted to hospital and 17 (all children) developed HUS. I don't think anyone involved in the Godstone outbreak will back any of the comments above. Indeed, this resulted in an independent investigation of the practices at open farms and steps were taken to ensure a similar incident does not happen again. HUSH, The UK E.coli Support Group

11:01am Tue 3 Jul 12

Sanfield says...

I guess the residents of Bankside Lane arnt to enamoured about the 20foot heap of animal faeces that adorn their back gardens, and various other items of waste that are sprawled behind the farm.
I guess the residents of Bankside Lane arnt to enamoured about the 20foot heap of animal faeces that adorn their back gardens, and various other items of waste that are sprawled behind the farm. Sanfield

5:48pm Tue 3 Jul 12

bammy1971 says...

Makes me so mad, people trying to earn a living,educating and bringing in trade to Bacup, the barmy Council closes them!! The Council wants to take a closer look at their own risks of disease in the form of the waste transfer station behind my house on Rochdale Road, where open rubbish is left blowing in the wind and into the river for days and weekends at a time!! hypocrites the lot of them.... until they are pristine and follow all regulations then leave poor family run businesses alone!!
Makes me so mad, people trying to earn a living,educating and bringing in trade to Bacup, the barmy Council closes them!! The Council wants to take a closer look at their own risks of disease in the form of the waste transfer station behind my house on Rochdale Road, where open rubbish is left blowing in the wind and into the river for days and weekends at a time!! hypocrites the lot of them.... until they are pristine and follow all regulations then leave poor family run businesses alone!! bammy1971

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