East Lancashire MPs back action on rail hub plan

10:00pm Friday 22nd June 2012 in News

EAST Lancashire MPs Jack Straw and Andrew Stephenson have joined forces across party lines at Westminster to back a call for the Government to step up action on the £530 million Northern Rail Hub plan.

The Blackburn Labour MP and his Pendle Tory neighbour are among 49 in the Commons to sign a Parliamentary motion urging Ministers to make a full commitment to the blueprint which includes electrifying the Manchester to Preston line.

The Early Day Motion on the Westminster Order Paper says: “We welcome the growth in rail patronage experienced over the last 10 years and recognise that there is now a severe lack of capacity in many areas.

We note that this lack of capacity is particularly critical across the north of England and further note that Network Rail has developed the Northern Hub, a scheme to radically improve capacity across the North and by allowing for an additional 700 trains a day to travel, generating four billion pounds of benefits to the northern economy and delivering 20,000 to 30,000 extra jobs.

“We urge the Government to realise the full benefits of the scheme by committing to the delivery of all its constituent parts in full in the period 2014 to 2019.”

Comments (9)

10:27am Sat 23 Jun 12

sim1846 says...

Yes and you also need to put your hands up and give 110% backing to the reopening of the Colne to Skipton rail line as part of the northern hub project, this would fully connect people in all areas, not just Manchester, but also Leeds City Region, after all poor Pendle residens don't look as though they are going to Benefit the Todmorden Curve project, I don't see Northern Rail having trains going from Colne to Manchester via Todmorden, It should be accsess to jobs for all not just Burnely residents.

I don't see the local MP't placing presure on LCC or North Yorkshire CC, to fund the Grip 3 Study for the Colne to Skipton rail line project, seem as though this A56 is more important when a large proportion of resident in East Lancashire don't have a car, and the fact remains that we will see a lot more people without cars over the comming years, due to the Oil price and insurance cost's going up.

So Come on MP's those of you who signed up to support the rail project should be doing a lot more to place presure on the Government and County Councils to fully back the Colne to Skipton Rail project, not just the Todmorden Curve.

Andrew Stephenson I don't see you backing the Colne to Skipton rail line project on your website, which the Last Pendle MP did, Gorden Prentice was great at supporting this vital project, but you seem to have fallen by the way side when it come's to backing it 100% in full public view.

Why is Justin Greening MP Minister, saying that no one within the rail Industry is backing the Colne to Skipton Rail line Project, when clearly they are, seen the Hansard from the House of Lords which came back negative, this was a real shock to me, as I know their has been high level talks going on for some months now.

Please Explain?????

I think that the Public now demands a straight answere on the this Rail Project, after all it is a very important East and West Coast Main Line Connection both for passenger and freight.
Yes and you also need to put your hands up and give 110% backing to the reopening of the Colne to Skipton rail line as part of the northern hub project, this would fully connect people in all areas, not just Manchester, but also Leeds City Region, after all poor Pendle residens don't look as though they are going to Benefit the Todmorden Curve project, I don't see Northern Rail having trains going from Colne to Manchester via Todmorden, It should be accsess to jobs for all not just Burnely residents. I don't see the local MP't placing presure on LCC or North Yorkshire CC, to fund the Grip 3 Study for the Colne to Skipton rail line project, seem as though this A56 is more important when a large proportion of resident in East Lancashire don't have a car, and the fact remains that we will see a lot more people without cars over the comming years, due to the Oil price and insurance cost's going up. So Come on MP's those of you who signed up to support the rail project should be doing a lot more to place presure on the Government and County Councils to fully back the Colne to Skipton Rail project, not just the Todmorden Curve. Andrew Stephenson I don't see you backing the Colne to Skipton rail line project on your website, which the Last Pendle MP did, Gorden Prentice was great at supporting this vital project, but you seem to have fallen by the way side when it come's to backing it 100% in full public view. Why is Justin Greening MP Minister, saying that no one within the rail Industry is backing the Colne to Skipton Rail line Project, when clearly they are, seen the Hansard from the House of Lords which came back negative, this was a real shock to me, as I know their has been high level talks going on for some months now. Please Explain????? I think that the Public now demands a straight answere on the this Rail Project, after all it is a very important East and West Coast Main Line Connection both for passenger and freight. sim1846

11:22am Sat 23 Jun 12

sim1846 says...

By The Way, for those of you out there that say the Colne to Skipton rail line project has no support, take a look at all this then:

* 188 MPs back the campaign.

* 68% of UK MEPs support us (49 out of 72)

* 491 Councils across the North of England and Wales back the campaign
some over 200 miles apart and including the cities of Liverpool, Manchester, Leeds, Sheffield and Newcastle.

* Trade Union Organisations (13).

* 51 Education bodies back the campaign.

* Business Support (151).

* 101 Members of the House of Lords now back the campaign.

* Well-known supporters


* The latest well-known supporter are:

John Craven (broadcaster),
Joanna Lumley (actress)
and
Tony Robinson (broadcaster, actor & writer)
They join:
Baroness Bakewell (Joan Bakewell)
Lady Benjamin (Floella Benjamin, broadcaster)
Alan Bennett (writer and dramatist)
Julia Bradbury (broadcaster)
Alastair Campbell (political strategist)
Ian Hislop (broadcaster & editor)
John Kettley (weatherman)
Mike Leigh (film director)
Ken Loach (film director)
Mark Steele (broadcaster, comedian)


And Many More, all you have to do is take a look at:

www.selrap.org.uk
By The Way, for those of you out there that say the Colne to Skipton rail line project has no support, take a look at all this then: * 188 MPs back the campaign. * 68% of UK MEPs support us (49 out of 72) * 491 Councils across the North of England and Wales back the campaign some over 200 miles apart and including the cities of Liverpool, Manchester, Leeds, Sheffield and Newcastle. * Trade Union Organisations (13). * 51 Education bodies back the campaign. * Business Support (151). * 101 Members of the House of Lords now back the campaign. * Well-known supporters * The latest well-known supporter are: John Craven (broadcaster), Joanna Lumley (actress) and Tony Robinson (broadcaster, actor & writer) They join: Baroness Bakewell (Joan Bakewell) Lady Benjamin (Floella Benjamin, broadcaster) Alan Bennett (writer and dramatist) Julia Bradbury (broadcaster) Alastair Campbell (political strategist) Ian Hislop (broadcaster & editor) John Kettley (weatherman) Mike Leigh (film director) Ken Loach (film director) Mark Steele (broadcaster, comedian) And Many More, all you have to do is take a look at: www.selrap.org.uk sim1846

3:40pm Sat 23 Jun 12

ROBERTSLUMDWELLER123 says...

sim1846 wrote:
By The Way, for those of you out there that say the Colne to Skipton rail line project has no support, take a look at all this then:

* 188 MPs back the campaign.

* 68% of UK MEPs support us (49 out of 72)

* 491 Councils across the North of England and Wales back the campaign
some over 200 miles apart and including the cities of Liverpool, Manchester, Leeds, Sheffield and Newcastle.

* Trade Union Organisations (13).

* 51 Education bodies back the campaign.

* Business Support (151).

* 101 Members of the House of Lords now back the campaign.

* Well-known supporters


* The latest well-known supporter are:

John Craven (broadcaster),
Joanna Lumley (actress)
and
Tony Robinson (broadcaster, actor & writer)
They join:
Baroness Bakewell (Joan Bakewell)
Lady Benjamin (Floella Benjamin, broadcaster)
Alan Bennett (writer and dramatist)
Julia Bradbury (broadcaster)
Alastair Campbell (political strategist)
Ian Hislop (broadcaster & editor)
John Kettley (weatherman)
Mike Leigh (film director)
Ken Loach (film director)
Mark Steele (broadcaster, comedian)


And Many More, all you have to do is take a look at:

www.selrap.org.uk
Yawn!!! it aint ever going to happen.even if the list you mentioned is true which i doubt very very much,,but dreams cost nothing!!
[quote][p][bold]sim1846[/bold] wrote: By The Way, for those of you out there that say the Colne to Skipton rail line project has no support, take a look at all this then: * 188 MPs back the campaign. * 68% of UK MEPs support us (49 out of 72) * 491 Councils across the North of England and Wales back the campaign some over 200 miles apart and including the cities of Liverpool, Manchester, Leeds, Sheffield and Newcastle. * Trade Union Organisations (13). * 51 Education bodies back the campaign. * Business Support (151). * 101 Members of the House of Lords now back the campaign. * Well-known supporters * The latest well-known supporter are: John Craven (broadcaster), Joanna Lumley (actress) and Tony Robinson (broadcaster, actor & writer) They join: Baroness Bakewell (Joan Bakewell) Lady Benjamin (Floella Benjamin, broadcaster) Alan Bennett (writer and dramatist) Julia Bradbury (broadcaster) Alastair Campbell (political strategist) Ian Hislop (broadcaster & editor) John Kettley (weatherman) Mike Leigh (film director) Ken Loach (film director) Mark Steele (broadcaster, comedian) And Many More, all you have to do is take a look at: www.selrap.org.uk[/p][/quote]Yawn!!! it aint ever going to happen.even if the list you mentioned is true which i doubt very very much,,but dreams cost nothing!! ROBERTSLUMDWELLER123

3:45pm Sat 23 Jun 12

ROBERTSLUMDWELLER123 says...

sim1846 wrote:
Yes and you also need to put your hands up and give 110% backing to the reopening of the Colne to Skipton rail line as part of the northern hub project, this would fully connect people in all areas, not just Manchester, but also Leeds City Region, after all poor Pendle residens don't look as though they are going to Benefit the Todmorden Curve project, I don't see Northern Rail having trains going from Colne to Manchester via Todmorden, It should be accsess to jobs for all not just Burnely residents.

I don't see the local MP't placing presure on LCC or North Yorkshire CC, to fund the Grip 3 Study for the Colne to Skipton rail line project, seem as though this A56 is more important when a large proportion of resident in East Lancashire don't have a car, and the fact remains that we will see a lot more people without cars over the comming years, due to the Oil price and insurance cost's going up.

So Come on MP's those of you who signed up to support the rail project should be doing a lot more to place presure on the Government and County Councils to fully back the Colne to Skipton Rail project, not just the Todmorden Curve.

Andrew Stephenson I don't see you backing the Colne to Skipton rail line project on your website, which the Last Pendle MP did, Gorden Prentice was great at supporting this vital project, but you seem to have fallen by the way side when it come's to backing it 100% in full public view.

Why is Justin Greening MP Minister, saying that no one within the rail Industry is backing the Colne to Skipton Rail line Project, when clearly they are, seen the Hansard from the House of Lords which came back negative, this was a real shock to me, as I know their has been high level talks going on for some months now.

Please Explain?????

I think that the Public now demands a straight answere on the this Rail Project, after all it is a very important East and West Coast Main Line Connection both for passenger and freight.
Stephenson wont back anything unless he gets his picture in paper/tv/or the main headlines,you should know this by now!!
[quote][p][bold]sim1846[/bold] wrote: Yes and you also need to put your hands up and give 110% backing to the reopening of the Colne to Skipton rail line as part of the northern hub project, this would fully connect people in all areas, not just Manchester, but also Leeds City Region, after all poor Pendle residens don't look as though they are going to Benefit the Todmorden Curve project, I don't see Northern Rail having trains going from Colne to Manchester via Todmorden, It should be accsess to jobs for all not just Burnely residents. I don't see the local MP't placing presure on LCC or North Yorkshire CC, to fund the Grip 3 Study for the Colne to Skipton rail line project, seem as though this A56 is more important when a large proportion of resident in East Lancashire don't have a car, and the fact remains that we will see a lot more people without cars over the comming years, due to the Oil price and insurance cost's going up. So Come on MP's those of you who signed up to support the rail project should be doing a lot more to place presure on the Government and County Councils to fully back the Colne to Skipton Rail project, not just the Todmorden Curve. Andrew Stephenson I don't see you backing the Colne to Skipton rail line project on your website, which the Last Pendle MP did, Gorden Prentice was great at supporting this vital project, but you seem to have fallen by the way side when it come's to backing it 100% in full public view. Why is Justin Greening MP Minister, saying that no one within the rail Industry is backing the Colne to Skipton Rail line Project, when clearly they are, seen the Hansard from the House of Lords which came back negative, this was a real shock to me, as I know their has been high level talks going on for some months now. Please Explain????? I think that the Public now demands a straight answere on the this Rail Project, after all it is a very important East and West Coast Main Line Connection both for passenger and freight.[/p][/quote]Stephenson wont back anything unless he gets his picture in paper/tv/or the main headlines,you should know this by now!! ROBERTSLUMDWELLER123

4:41pm Sat 23 Jun 12

Jack Herer says...

ROBERTSLUMDWELLER123 wrote:
sim1846 wrote:
By The Way, for those of you out there that say the Colne to Skipton rail line project has no support, take a look at all this then:

* 188 MPs back the campaign.

* 68% of UK MEPs support us (49 out of 72)

* 491 Councils across the North of England and Wales back the campaign
some over 200 miles apart and including the cities of Liverpool, Manchester, Leeds, Sheffield and Newcastle.

* Trade Union Organisations (13).

* 51 Education bodies back the campaign.

* Business Support (151).

* 101 Members of the House of Lords now back the campaign.

* Well-known supporters


* The latest well-known supporter are:

John Craven (broadcaster),
Joanna Lumley (actress)
and
Tony Robinson (broadcaster, actor & writer)
They join:
Baroness Bakewell (Joan Bakewell)
Lady Benjamin (Floella Benjamin, broadcaster)
Alan Bennett (writer and dramatist)
Julia Bradbury (broadcaster)
Alastair Campbell (political strategist)
Ian Hislop (broadcaster & editor)
John Kettley (weatherman)
Mike Leigh (film director)
Ken Loach (film director)
Mark Steele (broadcaster, comedian)


And Many More, all you have to do is take a look at:

www.selrap.org.uk
Yawn!!! it aint ever going to happen.even if the list you mentioned is true which i doubt very very much,,but dreams cost nothing!!
Jesus, you must be fun to be around.

Infrastructure spending like this makes sense. It isn't some silly expensive computer system to be ditched anyway, it's something tangible which will forever make the country richer. That goes for the Colne to Skipton line. It isn't some silly dream. It's spending which makes sense.
[quote][p][bold]ROBERTSLUMDWELLER123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sim1846[/bold] wrote: By The Way, for those of you out there that say the Colne to Skipton rail line project has no support, take a look at all this then: * 188 MPs back the campaign. * 68% of UK MEPs support us (49 out of 72) * 491 Councils across the North of England and Wales back the campaign some over 200 miles apart and including the cities of Liverpool, Manchester, Leeds, Sheffield and Newcastle. * Trade Union Organisations (13). * 51 Education bodies back the campaign. * Business Support (151). * 101 Members of the House of Lords now back the campaign. * Well-known supporters * The latest well-known supporter are: John Craven (broadcaster), Joanna Lumley (actress) and Tony Robinson (broadcaster, actor & writer) They join: Baroness Bakewell (Joan Bakewell) Lady Benjamin (Floella Benjamin, broadcaster) Alan Bennett (writer and dramatist) Julia Bradbury (broadcaster) Alastair Campbell (political strategist) Ian Hislop (broadcaster & editor) John Kettley (weatherman) Mike Leigh (film director) Ken Loach (film director) Mark Steele (broadcaster, comedian) And Many More, all you have to do is take a look at: www.selrap.org.uk[/p][/quote]Yawn!!! it aint ever going to happen.even if the list you mentioned is true which i doubt very very much,,but dreams cost nothing!![/p][/quote]Jesus, you must be fun to be around. Infrastructure spending like this makes sense. It isn't some silly expensive computer system to be ditched anyway, it's something tangible which will forever make the country richer. That goes for the Colne to Skipton line. It isn't some silly dream. It's spending which makes sense. Jack Herer

4:58pm Sat 23 Jun 12

ROBERTSLUMDWELLER123 says...

Jack Herer wrote:
ROBERTSLUMDWELLER123 wrote:
sim1846 wrote:
By The Way, for those of you out there that say the Colne to Skipton rail line project has no support, take a look at all this then:

* 188 MPs back the campaign.

* 68% of UK MEPs support us (49 out of 72)

* 491 Councils across the North of England and Wales back the campaign
some over 200 miles apart and including the cities of Liverpool, Manchester, Leeds, Sheffield and Newcastle.

* Trade Union Organisations (13).

* 51 Education bodies back the campaign.

* Business Support (151).

* 101 Members of the House of Lords now back the campaign.

* Well-known supporters


* The latest well-known supporter are:

John Craven (broadcaster),
Joanna Lumley (actress)
and
Tony Robinson (broadcaster, actor & writer)
They join:
Baroness Bakewell (Joan Bakewell)
Lady Benjamin (Floella Benjamin, broadcaster)
Alan Bennett (writer and dramatist)
Julia Bradbury (broadcaster)
Alastair Campbell (political strategist)
Ian Hislop (broadcaster & editor)
John Kettley (weatherman)
Mike Leigh (film director)
Ken Loach (film director)
Mark Steele (broadcaster, comedian)


And Many More, all you have to do is take a look at:

www.selrap.org.uk
Yawn!!! it aint ever going to happen.even if the list you mentioned is true which i doubt very very much,,but dreams cost nothing!!
Jesus, you must be fun to be around.

Infrastructure spending like this makes sense. It isn't some silly expensive computer system to be ditched anyway, it's something tangible which will forever make the country richer. That goes for the Colne to Skipton line. It isn't some silly dream. It's spending which makes sense.
but it doesnt make sense,financially or otherwise!!!its a single track line,ie no frieght trains.i just cant understand or believe how people can say it will boost the economy or boost jobs,,how please tell mewhat jobs will it create???
[quote][p][bold]Jack Herer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ROBERTSLUMDWELLER123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sim1846[/bold] wrote: By The Way, for those of you out there that say the Colne to Skipton rail line project has no support, take a look at all this then: * 188 MPs back the campaign. * 68% of UK MEPs support us (49 out of 72) * 491 Councils across the North of England and Wales back the campaign some over 200 miles apart and including the cities of Liverpool, Manchester, Leeds, Sheffield and Newcastle. * Trade Union Organisations (13). * 51 Education bodies back the campaign. * Business Support (151). * 101 Members of the House of Lords now back the campaign. * Well-known supporters * The latest well-known supporter are: John Craven (broadcaster), Joanna Lumley (actress) and Tony Robinson (broadcaster, actor & writer) They join: Baroness Bakewell (Joan Bakewell) Lady Benjamin (Floella Benjamin, broadcaster) Alan Bennett (writer and dramatist) Julia Bradbury (broadcaster) Alastair Campbell (political strategist) Ian Hislop (broadcaster & editor) John Kettley (weatherman) Mike Leigh (film director) Ken Loach (film director) Mark Steele (broadcaster, comedian) And Many More, all you have to do is take a look at: www.selrap.org.uk[/p][/quote]Yawn!!! it aint ever going to happen.even if the list you mentioned is true which i doubt very very much,,but dreams cost nothing!![/p][/quote]Jesus, you must be fun to be around. Infrastructure spending like this makes sense. It isn't some silly expensive computer system to be ditched anyway, it's something tangible which will forever make the country richer. That goes for the Colne to Skipton line. It isn't some silly dream. It's spending which makes sense.[/p][/quote]but it doesnt make sense,financially or otherwise!!!its a single track line,ie no frieght trains.i just cant understand or believe how people can say it will boost the economy or boost jobs,,how please tell mewhat jobs will it create??? ROBERTSLUMDWELLER123

8:52pm Sat 23 Jun 12

sim1846 says...

It's not a single track railway, the line from Burnely to Skipton was built with double track, and any how when it does get rebuilt the line from Colne to Burnely will be re-doubled again as part of the the project, and at the same time their is a very strong possability of electrification from Skipton North Junction to Preston as well, this has already been looked at as well as freight, in fact SELRAP was approched some months back by a well known company to develop the line for both freight and passenger services, with 2 inland ports to be built as well, one in Burnley and one just over the border, both sites have been looked at, and at the min this company is just on the side lines, waiting for both CC's and the Government to back the project through the GRIP 3 study as well as fund some of the project through the new RGF.

This project would create a lot of jobs, all you need to do is take a look at the SELRAP website, and some of the documents available for the public to have a look at.

That's all that can be said at the moment.
It's not a single track railway, the line from Burnely to Skipton was built with double track, and any how when it does get rebuilt the line from Colne to Burnely will be re-doubled again as part of the the project, and at the same time their is a very strong possability of electrification from Skipton North Junction to Preston as well, this has already been looked at as well as freight, in fact SELRAP was approched some months back by a well known company to develop the line for both freight and passenger services, with 2 inland ports to be built as well, one in Burnley and one just over the border, both sites have been looked at, and at the min this company is just on the side lines, waiting for both CC's and the Government to back the project through the GRIP 3 study as well as fund some of the project through the new RGF. This project would create a lot of jobs, all you need to do is take a look at the SELRAP website, and some of the documents available for the public to have a look at. That's all that can be said at the moment. sim1846

8:59pm Sat 23 Jun 12

sim1846 says...

Take a look at the Funding Development Plan on the website.

Details below:

http://www.selrap.or
g.uk/documents/Fundi
ng_Development_Plan_
2011.pdf
Take a look at the Funding Development Plan on the website. Details below: http://www.selrap.or g.uk/documents/Fundi ng_Development_Plan_ 2011.pdf sim1846

11:00am Mon 2 Jul 12

sim1846 says...

Please Explain; MP's and county councilors with regards to anti competitive behavior with regards to not backing the Rail Project 110%, to get the Colne to Skipton Missing Transpennine Link rebuilt due to the fact that it would compete with other links over the moss, looking at History back in the 1860's and so on,
Quote By: John Speller's Web Pages - Midland Railway

The Leeds & Bradford (Shipley - Colne Extension) Railway Act received the Royal Assent on 30 June 1845. It involved building an extension of the Leeds & Bradford Railway (then under construction) from Shipley to Colne via Skipton. The Shipley to Skipton section later became part of the Midland Railway main line to Carlisle, while the Skipton to Colne section became a branch with an end-on connection to the Blackburn, Burnley, Accrington & Colne Extension line of the Lancashire & Yorkshire Railway at Colne. The Skipton to Colne section opened on 2 October 1848. Although the line was in theory part of a through route from Liverpool to Leeds, this route suffered from being under the ownership of several different rival companies and the traffic was always substantially local. The line needed to be built to main line standards since it was used by heavy coal trains drawn by Fowler "8-F" Class 0-8-0 locomotives. Services were drastically curtailed under the Beeching Plan of 1963, and complete closure followed on 2 February 1970.

It's a bloody shame that you all don't want the People of East Lancashire better accesses to jobs and eduction, not to mention inbound investment in the region.
Please Explain; MP's and county councilors with regards to anti competitive behavior with regards to not backing the Rail Project 110%, to get the Colne to Skipton Missing Transpennine Link rebuilt due to the fact that it would compete with other links over the moss, looking at History back in the 1860's and so on, Quote By: John Speller's Web Pages - Midland Railway The Leeds & Bradford (Shipley - Colne Extension) Railway Act received the Royal Assent on 30 June 1845. It involved building an extension of the Leeds & Bradford Railway (then under construction) from Shipley to Colne via Skipton. The Shipley to Skipton section later became part of the Midland Railway main line to Carlisle, while the Skipton to Colne section became a branch with an end-on connection to the Blackburn, Burnley, Accrington & Colne Extension line of the Lancashire & Yorkshire Railway at Colne. The Skipton to Colne section opened on 2 October 1848. Although the line was in theory part of a through route from Liverpool to Leeds, this route suffered from being under the ownership of several different rival companies and the traffic was always substantially local. The line needed to be built to main line standards since it was used by heavy coal trains drawn by Fowler "8-F" Class 0-8-0 locomotives. Services were drastically curtailed under the Beeching Plan of 1963, and complete closure followed on 2 February 1970. It's a bloody shame that you all don't want the People of East Lancashire better accesses to jobs and eduction, not to mention inbound investment in the region. sim1846

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