Haslingden MP chases up plans for trains on Curve line

Graham Jones

Graham Jones

First published in News

PLANS to provide trains for the Todmorden Curve scheme are being chased by Haslingden’s MP.

Graham Jones wrote to Lancashire County Council for an update on progress and has set up a meeting to raise some issues.

He said: “I have received a reply on the provison of a train for the Todmorden Curve.

“And it appears that there will now be further delays beyond December.

“I know a a diesel carriage has been using the new track, presumedly testing it. However LCC advise that the track won't be commissioned until November.

“There are now delays and slippage in the planned completion date. Importantly I want to know whether these carriages will require refurbishment or should they be refurbished before being 'handed down'.

“I am also concerned about pricing and ticketing in general.

“It is crucial it is not used as a revenue raising project but that the various fares encourage mobility.

“I have written to LCC to meet with staff to dicuss theses and oither issues including the East Lancs line which also runs through the constituency.”

Pressure is continuing from many quarters to grow on rail bosses over the lack of trains on the newly completed Curve.

The work on the curve cost £8.8million.

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5:54pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Owd Akela says...

Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought Graham was Hyndburn's MP and why the hell would an MP from Haslingden get involved? It hasn't even got a railway station.
Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought Graham was Hyndburn's MP and why the hell would an MP from Haslingden get involved? It hasn't even got a railway station. Owd Akela
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6:25pm Fri 25 Jul 14

HelmshoreBoy says...

Graham Jones is the Member of Parliament for both Hynburn and Haslingden. I suppose he has a vested interest as the railway line through part of his constituency to Burnley and the Todmorden Curve and then on to Manchester.

I believe Mr Jones appears to be the only one of our local MPs' who is consitently making any representation regading this painful ongoing matter. I

sn't it about time that they - Messrs Berry, Stephenson, Birtwistle and Straw, put aside their political dfferences, together with all the local councils and make serious representations to the DofT, Network Rail and the Government to expedite this sorry situation. At this rate it will be well ito 2015 before anything materialises.
Graham Jones is the Member of Parliament for both Hynburn and Haslingden. I suppose he has a vested interest as the railway line through part of his constituency to Burnley and the Todmorden Curve and then on to Manchester. I believe Mr Jones appears to be the only one of our local MPs' who is consitently making any representation regading this painful ongoing matter. I sn't it about time that they - Messrs Berry, Stephenson, Birtwistle and Straw, put aside their political dfferences, together with all the local councils and make serious representations to the DofT, Network Rail and the Government to expedite this sorry situation. At this rate it will be well ito 2015 before anything materialises. HelmshoreBoy
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9:09am Sat 26 Jul 14

HelmshoreMan2010 says...

I am a firm believer in public transport if done right but the way trains are run up north isn't right and the cost of upgrading the network is just too much now. Even with enough trains most of the track is full to bursting point anyway because it's so old.

For the price of 1 train you could buy 10 modern comfortable buses. Burnley to Manchester via Todmorden and Rochdale is 90 minutes each way by road (using my sat nav for reference). This means you could have a comfortable bus arriving every 18 minutes for the price of one train.

Lets then say in an ideal world we are able to fill the buses by the magic of a comfortable reliable regular service and persuade enough people to ditch the car and ride on our 10 new buses. A bus can hold around 60 people, lets say most cars heading in to Manchester for work have 1 person in, so the potential to take 40 - 50 cars off the road per bus or 400 - 500 for the price of this one train.

The reality is a NCP season ticket in Manchester is £1000 (give or take) and parking is just one cost to factor in when driving in to the city. So if you can make a comfortable regular reliable service for under this price enough people will use it!
I am a firm believer in public transport if done right but the way trains are run up north isn't right and the cost of upgrading the network is just too much now. Even with enough trains most of the track is full to bursting point anyway because it's so old. For the price of 1 train you could buy 10 modern comfortable buses. Burnley to Manchester via Todmorden and Rochdale is 90 minutes each way by road (using my sat nav for reference). This means you could have a comfortable bus arriving every 18 minutes for the price of one train. Lets then say in an ideal world we are able to fill the buses by the magic of a comfortable reliable regular service and persuade enough people to ditch the car and ride on our 10 new buses. A bus can hold around 60 people, lets say most cars heading in to Manchester for work have 1 person in, so the potential to take 40 - 50 cars off the road per bus or 400 - 500 for the price of this one train. The reality is a NCP season ticket in Manchester is £1000 (give or take) and parking is just one cost to factor in when driving in to the city. So if you can make a comfortable regular reliable service for under this price enough people will use it! HelmshoreMan2010
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12:24pm Sat 26 Jul 14

GAC says...

the problem is that northern rail are playing by a set of weakly enforced rules. they make around £30million a year profit and dont buy new rolling stock as they wait for 2nd, 3rd and 4th hand 30 year old pacers to be available from down south.

hell theres not even any rules on over crowding on trains so they cant even be forced to buy them on busy routes, i said it would be a farce about a year ago when they said the curve would be up and running for end of this year and low and behold its happening. well played mp's for being short sighted and deaf to comments.
the problem is that northern rail are playing by a set of weakly enforced rules. they make around £30million a year profit and dont buy new rolling stock as they wait for 2nd, 3rd and 4th hand 30 year old pacers to be available from down south. hell theres not even any rules on over crowding on trains so they cant even be forced to buy them on busy routes, i said it would be a farce about a year ago when they said the curve would be up and running for end of this year and low and behold its happening. well played mp's for being short sighted and deaf to comments. GAC
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