Expert calls for Stacksteads pub to be rescued from demolition

The Hare and Hounds

The Hare and Hounds

First published in News

A LOCAL historian is calling for people to object to plans to demolish an almost 200-year-old Stacksteads pub to make way for houses.

The Hare and Hounds, in Newchurch Road, has been called a ‘massive part of our heritage’ by Bacup Natural History Society member Wendy Lord.

Joint administrators Calco Pubs Limited, Zolfo Cooper, have submitted a planning application to demolish the pub, which began trading in 1816, and build four three-bedroom homes in its place.

But author and historian Ms Lord said the Hare and Hounds should be kept as a community pub.

She said: “It’s been there for donkey’s years and it’s a massive part of our heritage.

“In the planning application, it says there are many pubs in the vicinity, but it is actually the only one left.

“If you were to walk from the Hare and Hounds to Waterfoot, there are no pubs on that road.

“Then from Bacup to Waterfoot, the only pub is the Rose 'n' Bowl, which is more of a restaurant than a traditional pub, and then there’s the Conservative Club, which is members only.

“It’s ridiculous. When these pubs have gone, they’re gone for good. On the road, there used to be the Grocer’s Inn, which opened in 1851 and closed in 1920, and also the Bee Hive, but they have both gone now.”

In a planning statement to Rossendale Council, the administrators cited the failure of the pub to ‘operate a profitable business’.

Ms Lord said: “It’s not a viable business because it’s been allowed to fall into a state of disrepair, and it doesn’t encourage people to come in for a drink.

“The way to fix this would be to spend a bit of money on it, refurbish it, clear up the car park outside, which doesn’t look very attractive, and maybe even offer some light food. Bulldozing this piece of our history is not the answer.”

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2:30pm Thu 6 Mar 14

Loving lances says...

Wendy Lord isn't much of an expert if she doesn't know that the Farholme Tavern is in the middle of Stacksteads.
Wendy Lord isn't much of an expert if she doesn't know that the Farholme Tavern is in the middle of Stacksteads. Loving lances
  • Score: 2

3:39pm Thu 6 Mar 14

jaseslady66 says...

Loving lances wrote:
Wendy Lord isn't much of an expert if she doesn't know that the Farholme Tavern is in the middle of Stacksteads.
If you read the planning application it states there are other pubs in the immediate vicinity which is not true and which is why only the Rose and Bowl and Con club was mentioned as these two are the closest to the Hare and Hounds.
[quote][p][bold]Loving lances[/bold] wrote: Wendy Lord isn't much of an expert if she doesn't know that the Farholme Tavern is in the middle of Stacksteads.[/p][/quote]If you read the planning application it states there are other pubs in the immediate vicinity which is not true and which is why only the Rose and Bowl and Con club was mentioned as these two are the closest to the Hare and Hounds. jaseslady66
  • Score: 5

3:58pm Thu 6 Mar 14

bacuptimes says...

Loving lances wrote:
Wendy Lord isn't much of an expert if she doesn't know that the Farholme Tavern is in the middle of Stacksteads.
Your quite right Lovinlances I am no expert on local pubs with regards to drinking i them as I very rarely do. I was simply asked what I thought about the plans to demolish the Hare and Hounds and to build houses there to which my reply is printed. The reporter asked me about pubs directly in the vicinity which is why I did not mention the Farholme Tavern. However just in case anyone is intrested the Farholme Tavern's first landlord was a George Ashworth, whose license was granted in 1864, the brewery at the time being Baxters :)
[quote][p][bold]Loving lances[/bold] wrote: Wendy Lord isn't much of an expert if she doesn't know that the Farholme Tavern is in the middle of Stacksteads.[/p][/quote]Your quite right Lovinlances I am no expert on local pubs with regards to drinking i them as I very rarely do. I was simply asked what I thought about the plans to demolish the Hare and Hounds and to build houses there to which my reply is printed. The reporter asked me about pubs directly in the vicinity which is why I did not mention the Farholme Tavern. However just in case anyone is intrested the Farholme Tavern's first landlord was a George Ashworth, whose license was granted in 1864, the brewery at the time being Baxters :) bacuptimes
  • Score: 5

5:45pm Thu 6 Mar 14

Loving lances says...

jaseslady66 wrote:
Loving lances wrote:
Wendy Lord isn't much of an expert if she doesn't know that the Farholme Tavern is in the middle of Stacksteads.
If you read the planning application it states there are other pubs in the immediate vicinity which is not true and which is why only the Rose and Bowl and Con club was mentioned as these two are the closest to the Hare and Hounds.
The article (not the planning application) mentions that between Bacup and Waterfoot there is only the Rose and Bowl. I did read the article.
Over the last decade, the Commercial and the Railway also closed.
These old-fasioned boozers are closing at more than 1,000
a year, especially in east Lancashire. The pubs that survive will serve food and a wider clientele as the Rose and Bowl does.

If the historisns to preserve the building, then they could consult the villagers and see how many would either fund it or drink there.
Keeping old buildings past their time is sentimental.
[quote][p][bold]jaseslady66[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Loving lances[/bold] wrote: Wendy Lord isn't much of an expert if she doesn't know that the Farholme Tavern is in the middle of Stacksteads.[/p][/quote]If you read the planning application it states there are other pubs in the immediate vicinity which is not true and which is why only the Rose and Bowl and Con club was mentioned as these two are the closest to the Hare and Hounds.[/p][/quote]The article (not the planning application) mentions that between Bacup and Waterfoot there is only the Rose and Bowl. I did read the article. Over the last decade, the Commercial and the Railway also closed. These old-fasioned boozers are closing at more than 1,000 a year, especially in east Lancashire. The pubs that survive will serve food and a wider clientele as the Rose and Bowl does. If the historisns to preserve the building, then they could consult the villagers and see how many would either fund it or drink there. Keeping old buildings past their time is sentimental. Loving lances
  • Score: -3

7:10pm Thu 6 Mar 14

bacuptimes says...

Loving lances wrote:
jaseslady66 wrote:
Loving lances wrote:
Wendy Lord isn't much of an expert if she doesn't know that the Farholme Tavern is in the middle of Stacksteads.
If you read the planning application it states there are other pubs in the immediate vicinity which is not true and which is why only the Rose and Bowl and Con club was mentioned as these two are the closest to the Hare and Hounds.
The article (not the planning application) mentions that between Bacup and Waterfoot there is only the Rose and Bowl. I did read the article.
Over the last decade, the Commercial and the Railway also closed.
These old-fasioned boozers are closing at more than 1,000
a year, especially in east Lancashire. The pubs that survive will serve food and a wider clientele as the Rose and Bowl does.

If the historisns to preserve the building, then they could consult the villagers and see how many would either fund it or drink there.
Keeping old buildings past their time is sentimental.
Unfortunately the reporter did not qoute me correctly. I said that between the Hare and Hounds and Waterfoot there are no pubs still open and if you were travelling towards Bacup from the Hare and Hounds the nearest places to get a drink are the Rose and Bowl and the Con Club the latter of which is membership entry and the Rose is mainly a restaurant. And the reason I said this is because the planning application dosent mention that the other pubs still open in the area are not actually in the vicinity of the area of the Hare and Hounds, we which is what they are trying to suggest. As for consulting villagers I live 5 mins away from the pub and was asked for my opinion which is what I gave.
[quote][p][bold]Loving lances[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jaseslady66[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Loving lances[/bold] wrote: Wendy Lord isn't much of an expert if she doesn't know that the Farholme Tavern is in the middle of Stacksteads.[/p][/quote]If you read the planning application it states there are other pubs in the immediate vicinity which is not true and which is why only the Rose and Bowl and Con club was mentioned as these two are the closest to the Hare and Hounds.[/p][/quote]The article (not the planning application) mentions that between Bacup and Waterfoot there is only the Rose and Bowl. I did read the article. Over the last decade, the Commercial and the Railway also closed. These old-fasioned boozers are closing at more than 1,000 a year, especially in east Lancashire. The pubs that survive will serve food and a wider clientele as the Rose and Bowl does. If the historisns to preserve the building, then they could consult the villagers and see how many would either fund it or drink there. Keeping old buildings past their time is sentimental.[/p][/quote]Unfortunately the reporter did not qoute me correctly. I said that between the Hare and Hounds and Waterfoot there are no pubs still open and if you were travelling towards Bacup from the Hare and Hounds the nearest places to get a drink are the Rose and Bowl and the Con Club the latter of which is membership entry and the Rose is mainly a restaurant. And the reason I said this is because the planning application dosent mention that the other pubs still open in the area are not actually in the vicinity of the area of the Hare and Hounds, we which is what they are trying to suggest. As for consulting villagers I live 5 mins away from the pub and was asked for my opinion which is what I gave. bacuptimes
  • Score: 5

7:13pm Thu 6 Mar 14

Loving lances says...

Thanks, Wendy. I can quite well believe that you
were misreported, it happens to many of us.
Thanks, Wendy. I can quite well believe that you were misreported, it happens to many of us. Loving lances
  • Score: 5

7:43pm Thu 6 Mar 14

Excluded again says...

If the people of Stacksteads want to save the Hare and Hounds, they can get it registered as an asset of community value.

This prevents anything happening to the pub for six months during which they can raise the money to buy the pub and keep it as a community pub. Communities up and down the country have done and are doing this and there is help and advice available on how to do it successfully.
If the people of Stacksteads want to save the Hare and Hounds, they can get it registered as an asset of community value. This prevents anything happening to the pub for six months during which they can raise the money to buy the pub and keep it as a community pub. Communities up and down the country have done and are doing this and there is help and advice available on how to do it successfully. Excluded again
  • Score: 7

8:10pm Fri 7 Mar 14

HelmshoreMan2010 says...

The thing that bugs me the most is the number of plots of empty land you could fit houses on. Almost directly across the road on the corner of Baldwin St is an empty plot about the same size which I think (might be wrong now) is up for sale.

By the way I love Wendy's work!
The thing that bugs me the most is the number of plots of empty land you could fit houses on. Almost directly across the road on the corner of Baldwin St is an empty plot about the same size which I think (might be wrong now) is up for sale. By the way I love Wendy's work! HelmshoreMan2010
  • Score: 2

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