Police face 2 hours a day on bus to get to beat in Rossendale

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POLICE will have to hop on buses to go out on the beat in Rossendale, it has emerged.

Councillors have written to Lancashire’s chief constable and the Crime Commissioner to express concerns after proposals were unveiled to move all briefings to the main police base in Waterfoot.

It will mean Haslingden officers will have to travel to Waterfoot before going back to their beat on the bus.

Coun Gladys Sandiford said since Haslingden police station was decommissioned, beat officers have to travel to Waterfoot, where they do not have access to police vehicles.

However police have said the decision has been made ‘to increase our visibility within the community and engage directly with local people’.

Coun Sandiford, on behalf of the Conservative group in Haslingden, said in a letter to Chief Constable Steve Finnegan and Police and Crime Commissioner Clive Grunshaw: “It is with some consternation that we learn that our police officers will in future have their briefings and debriefings at Waterfoot police station, and return there for lunch breaks.

“As they will have to travel to the beat by bus, even the most generous estimate calculates that the time devoted to the beat in Haslingden will be diminished by two hours per day per officer.

“Taking into account the upheaval in Rossendale due to roadworks this year, this could be considerably more.

“How can this be justified when there is already a reduction in personnel?

“The crime figures for December 10 to January 21 are up in Worsley Ward, and alarmingly increased in Greenfield Ward.

“The proposed reductions are most certainly not going to help matters.

“We need to keep up the morale of our local force, all of whom are very committed to their work and we would ask you to rethink your proposals.

“Can not some partnership arrangements be made with the Haslingden Fire Station?

“We the public pay for police to be seen on the streets preventing and detecting crime in Haslingden, not to stand in bus queues and ride on buses.”

A police spokeswoman said: “Officers from Rossendale’s Neighbourhood Policing Team are briefed at Waterfoot Police Station at the start of their shift, before travelling to their relevant ward areas.

“Some officers use police vehicles to travel, however some use public transport in order to increase our visibility within the community and engage with local people.”

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2:49pm Wed 29 Jan 14

rudis_dad says...

What's wrong with Shank's pony or a bicycle? Mind you, most of the coppers you see about these days look like they couldn't keep up with an asthmatic tortoise...
What's wrong with Shank's pony or a bicycle? Mind you, most of the coppers you see about these days look like they couldn't keep up with an asthmatic tortoise... rudis_dad

3:23pm Wed 29 Jan 14

Copperhead says...

Don't forget, they aren't really cops anymore.
The best description I can think of for the modern Police " Service " is that they are " paramilitary social workers ".
By their own admission - as reported in the national press only two weeks ago - they only spend one day in five actually solving crime. The other four seem to be spent on paperwork, attending courses on diversity, equality and ethnic awareness, intervening in family squabbles, community cohesion duties and other " vital " roles. Nicking villains doesn't seem to figure in their job descriptions, unless it's trying to catch motorists speeding.
Mind you, all cops these days seem to be 5' 6" humanities graduates who were probably brainwashed at uni by marxist deconstructionist lecturers so they actually believe all the guff about equality, diversity etc etc and no doubt see crims as victims of the oppressive capitalist-military-
industrial-land-owni
ng complex that runs our society. They probably get issued with a copy of the Guardian instead of a Manual of Police Operations.
Whereas, when it comes to sorting out burglars, muggers, rapists and paedophiles, what the public want is the real-life equivalents of DI Jack Regan and DCI Gene Hunt !!!
Don't forget, they aren't really cops anymore. The best description I can think of for the modern Police " Service " is that they are " paramilitary social workers ". By their own admission - as reported in the national press only two weeks ago - they only spend one day in five actually solving crime. The other four seem to be spent on paperwork, attending courses on diversity, equality and ethnic awareness, intervening in family squabbles, community cohesion duties and other " vital " roles. Nicking villains doesn't seem to figure in their job descriptions, unless it's trying to catch motorists speeding. Mind you, all cops these days seem to be 5' 6" humanities graduates who were probably brainwashed at uni by marxist deconstructionist lecturers so they actually believe all the guff about equality, diversity etc etc and no doubt see crims as victims of the oppressive capitalist-military- industrial-land-owni ng complex that runs our society. They probably get issued with a copy of the Guardian instead of a Manual of Police Operations. Whereas, when it comes to sorting out burglars, muggers, rapists and paedophiles, what the public want is the real-life equivalents of DI Jack Regan and DCI Gene Hunt !!! Copperhead

3:50pm Wed 29 Jan 14

Just an observer says...

Do they have to buy a day pass? or are they traveling at the tax payers expense?
Do they have to buy a day pass? or are they traveling at the tax payers expense? Just an observer

4:33pm Wed 29 Jan 14

noddy57 says...

no-matter what you think of the police the simple fact is as a force they dont carry that respect of generations ago and this is another example of the softening of the powers they once had to this laughable modern day expectation which to me is a touch Embarrasing,,retired ex coppers must cringe at the current set up,
no-matter what you think of the police the simple fact is as a force they dont carry that respect of generations ago and this is another example of the softening of the powers they once had to this laughable modern day expectation which to me is a touch Embarrasing,,retired ex coppers must cringe at the current set up, noddy57

4:54pm Wed 29 Jan 14

HairyBowls says...

Visible policing is the way forward...not tucked away in a car on a layby eating doughnuts.
Visible policing is the way forward...not tucked away in a car on a layby eating doughnuts. HairyBowls

5:51pm Wed 29 Jan 14

HelmshoreMan2010 says...

Firstly lets clear one thing up quickly, I used to travel from Haslingden to Bacup on the bus 5 days a week for work. That journey used to take me 25 minutes and the Waterfoot police station is only 3/4 in to that journey. I'm not sure where 2 hours comes from because it certainly isn't the bus time table!

Secondly some of the roughest people I have seen in Rossendale (and that says something) have been on the busses, the police being on the bus can only be a good thing.
Firstly lets clear one thing up quickly, I used to travel from Haslingden to Bacup on the bus 5 days a week for work. That journey used to take me 25 minutes and the Waterfoot police station is only 3/4 in to that journey. I'm not sure where 2 hours comes from because it certainly isn't the bus time table! Secondly some of the roughest people I have seen in Rossendale (and that says something) have been on the busses, the police being on the bus can only be a good thing. HelmshoreMan2010

5:58pm Wed 29 Jan 14

mavrick says...

This is the reality of public service cuts. Given the fact that neither the Tories or the Lib dems actualy won the last general election who gave them authority to make these cuts? The brainwashed will continue to believe this country is broke. It never was. The recession was extended by government to help it achieve it's target of the destruction of the NHS, public services, armed forces. we are a defenseless laughing stock.
This is the reality of public service cuts. Given the fact that neither the Tories or the Lib dems actualy won the last general election who gave them authority to make these cuts? The brainwashed will continue to believe this country is broke. It never was. The recession was extended by government to help it achieve it's target of the destruction of the NHS, public services, armed forces. we are a defenseless laughing stock. mavrick

6:16pm Wed 29 Jan 14

woolywords says...

Why isn't it possible for these tactical briefings to be done over the radio?
Years ago, Cumbria Police did it, for the outlying parts of the Division and we kids used to love hearing them.
Can't these briefings, in summary form, not be sent to officers mobile devices?
I know that this is a bit of a backwater but they are in the same century as the rest of us, with the availability of all that modern technology has to offer, at no extra costs to the service.
Why isn't it possible for these tactical briefings to be done over the radio? Years ago, Cumbria Police did it, for the outlying parts of the Division and we kids used to love hearing them. Can't these briefings, in summary form, not be sent to officers mobile devices? I know that this is a bit of a backwater but they are in the same century as the rest of us, with the availability of all that modern technology has to offer, at no extra costs to the service. woolywords

6:59pm Wed 29 Jan 14

happycyclist says...

What a joke. The police deserve better than this and so do we. Why haven't you got a quote from that Tory dick Jake Berry, LT?
What a joke. The police deserve better than this and so do we. Why haven't you got a quote from that Tory dick Jake Berry, LT? happycyclist

7:06pm Wed 29 Jan 14

Steven Seagull says...

Just an observer wrote:
Do they have to buy a day pass? or are they traveling at the tax payers expense?
It doesn't cost the taxpayer anything , the bus companies let them on for free.
[quote][p][bold]Just an observer[/bold] wrote: Do they have to buy a day pass? or are they traveling at the tax payers expense?[/p][/quote]It doesn't cost the taxpayer anything , the bus companies let them on for free. Steven Seagull

7:31pm Wed 29 Jan 14

HelmshoreMan2010 says...

Steven Seagull wrote:
Just an observer wrote:
Do they have to buy a day pass? or are they traveling at the tax payers expense?
It doesn't cost the taxpayer anything , the bus companies let them on for free.
I'm not sure why this got a negative vote, it's true! The bus they will catch is running anyway and I have seen police be let on for free so it really wouldn't cost the taxpayer any more than the Rosso buses already cost.

Sad to see people giving fact a negative vote, save the votes for peoples opinions you disagree with! (like mine now haha)
[quote][p][bold]Steven Seagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Just an observer[/bold] wrote: Do they have to buy a day pass? or are they traveling at the tax payers expense?[/p][/quote]It doesn't cost the taxpayer anything , the bus companies let them on for free.[/p][/quote]I'm not sure why this got a negative vote, it's true! The bus they will catch is running anyway and I have seen police be let on for free so it really wouldn't cost the taxpayer any more than the Rosso buses already cost. Sad to see people giving fact a negative vote, save the votes for peoples opinions you disagree with! (like mine now haha) HelmshoreMan2010

2:32pm Thu 30 Jan 14

Mothernature says...

No different to what us lesser mortals have to do each day to get to work.
No different to what us lesser mortals have to do each day to get to work. Mothernature

6:35pm Thu 30 Jan 14

HelmshoreBoy says...

Don't get your knickers in a twist Councillor Sanderson. The community Officers have been parading on at Waterfoot for quite some time. Since Haslingden closed. So how long is that then?

What you should be more concerned at is the fact that the response officers - those thst attend the emergency calls - will be starting at Burnley instead of Waterfoot. Having to travel into the Valley - 6 miles - before they can start to respond to calls. Imagine that during the winter months.

The Officers have to travel to Burnley from the Valley (if they live there, which most do!) and then travel back. Makes sense doesn't it!

Try barking up the right tree Messrs Grunshaw and and Finnegan when you introduce further finnancial cuts. As usual the Valley comes out at the bottom of the pile.
Don't get your knickers in a twist Councillor Sanderson. The community Officers have been parading on at Waterfoot for quite some time. Since Haslingden closed. So how long is that then? What you should be more concerned at is the fact that the response officers - those thst attend the emergency calls - will be starting at Burnley instead of Waterfoot. Having to travel into the Valley - 6 miles - before they can start to respond to calls. Imagine that during the winter months. The Officers have to travel to Burnley from the Valley (if they live there, which most do!) and then travel back. Makes sense doesn't it! Try barking up the right tree Messrs Grunshaw and and Finnegan when you introduce further finnancial cuts. As usual the Valley comes out at the bottom of the pile. HelmshoreBoy

12:11pm Sat 8 Feb 14

mmickk says...

mavrick wrote:
This is the reality of public service cuts. Given the fact that neither the Tories or the Lib dems actualy won the last general election who gave them authority to make these cuts? The brainwashed will continue to believe this country is broke. It never was. The recession was extended by government to help it achieve it's target of the destruction of the NHS, public services, armed forces. we are a defenseless laughing stock.
Been taking them Horse tranquilizers. The interest alone is 47.5 billion a year that's money down the drain. So your another lefty that thinks its OK to borrow more get real read what you have just said again and you might realize how stupid you sound.
[quote][p][bold]mavrick[/bold] wrote: This is the reality of public service cuts. Given the fact that neither the Tories or the Lib dems actualy won the last general election who gave them authority to make these cuts? The brainwashed will continue to believe this country is broke. It never was. The recession was extended by government to help it achieve it's target of the destruction of the NHS, public services, armed forces. we are a defenseless laughing stock.[/p][/quote]Been taking them Horse tranquilizers. The interest alone is 47.5 billion a year that's money down the drain. So your another lefty that thinks its OK to borrow more get real read what you have just said again and you might realize how stupid you sound. mmickk

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