Big fall in claimants on the dole in Burnley

Lancashire Telegraph: Big fall in claimants on the dole in Burnley Big fall in claimants on the dole in Burnley

THE NUMBER of people claiming Jobseekers’ Allowance (JSA) in Burnley fell by more than 700 last year — despite a rise in unemployment.

Statistics published in a new report on the economy by Burnley Council show 2,052 residents received the monthly benefit in December 2013, down from 2,732 last January.

This was despite the number of working-age unemployed people increasing from 3,600 in September 2012 to 3,700 in September 2013.

The report, set to be discussed by councillors on the economic regeneration scrutiny committee tomorrow night, also highlighted that the average gross weekly wage for residents of the borough — £473.30 — was below the North West average (£483.20) and the national average (£518.10).

However, the average gross weekly salary paid by workplaces based in Burnley was lower, at £433.60.

Ryan Gifford, the report’s author, noted: “That weekly gross pay in Burnley is higher for residents than workplace wages suggests that Burnley residents are benefitting from commuting out of the borough to areas where workplace pay is higher.”

Explaining the unemployment figures, Mr Gifford, a regeneration officer, said: “Not all the unemployed people over the age of 16 claim Jobseekers’ Allowance.

“Some may be on incapacity or other benefits or some may be single parents who chose not to work.”

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11:47pm Tue 28 Jan 14

Lancs - pensioner says...

Thanks LT for opening a door we rovers fans can have a pop at, but being the gentleman I am I will decline this glorious opportunity. The Dingles have more problems trying to get in the play offs so it's not the time to show disrespect.
Thanks LT for opening a door we rovers fans can have a pop at, but being the gentleman I am I will decline this glorious opportunity. The Dingles have more problems trying to get in the play offs so it's not the time to show disrespect. Lancs - pensioner

5:22am Wed 29 Jan 14

Timefor says...

'ang on! Aren't we supposed to believe, according to the libcons, that we're in recovery? The sooner more folk stop believing the fluff put out and decide to vote this lot out at every opportunity, the better. Seems to be the only way left really. Just hope those that are most badly affected and/or care use their vote and don't adopt the apathetic position of "what can we do about it"
'ang on! Aren't we supposed to believe, according to the libcons, that we're in recovery? The sooner more folk stop believing the fluff put out and decide to vote this lot out at every opportunity, the better. Seems to be the only way left really. Just hope those that are most badly affected and/or care use their vote and don't adopt the apathetic position of "what can we do about it" Timefor

6:58am Wed 29 Jan 14

AnthonyUK says...

What gives ANYONE the right to use benefits as a lifestyle choice and live off the taxpayer when the spongers put NOTHING back?
What gives ANYONE the right to use benefits as a lifestyle choice and live off the taxpayer when the spongers put NOTHING back? AnthonyUK

7:24am Wed 29 Jan 14

AnthonyUK says...

There are people who think benefits are better than working and I'am glad the govt don't see it that way and are pulling the rug from under the "can't work won't work" fraternity!
There are people who think benefits are better than working and I'am glad the govt don't see it that way and are pulling the rug from under the "can't work won't work" fraternity! AnthonyUK

7:27am Wed 29 Jan 14

Nottokeenonthesmellofvaseline says...

Lancs - pensioner wrote:
Thanks LT for opening a door we rovers fans can have a pop at, but being the gentleman I am I will decline this glorious opportunity. The Dingles have more problems trying to get in the play offs so it's not the time to show disrespect.
Where are Blackburn in the league again? Been too busy keeping my eye on the top 6 this season I haven't really had chance to monitor your progress and therefore can't make a sarcastic remark as good as yours.
[quote][p][bold]Lancs - pensioner[/bold] wrote: Thanks LT for opening a door we rovers fans can have a pop at, but being the gentleman I am I will decline this glorious opportunity. The Dingles have more problems trying to get in the play offs so it's not the time to show disrespect.[/p][/quote]Where are Blackburn in the league again? Been too busy keeping my eye on the top 6 this season I haven't really had chance to monitor your progress and therefore can't make a sarcastic remark as good as yours. Nottokeenonthesmellofvaseline

7:53am Wed 29 Jan 14

shytalk says...

Unemployment up but fewer people claiming benefits = more people getting their benefits sanctioned to meet jobcentre staff performance figures, and make the government look good
It would be interesting to see how many more people are going hungry and resorting to food banks.
Unemployment up but fewer people claiming benefits = more people getting their benefits sanctioned to meet jobcentre staff performance figures, and make the government look good It would be interesting to see how many more people are going hungry and resorting to food banks. shytalk

9:34am Wed 29 Jan 14

frank says...

AnthonyUK wrote:
What gives ANYONE the right to use benefits as a lifestyle choice and live off the taxpayer when the spongers put NOTHING back?
Not quite true. Someone on benefits still pays tax. There are more traces than just income tax. and in most cases all the money goes to pay for food and bills. Just because someone is on benefits doesn't mean they're sponging or not paying tax.
[quote][p][bold]AnthonyUK[/bold] wrote: What gives ANYONE the right to use benefits as a lifestyle choice and live off the taxpayer when the spongers put NOTHING back?[/p][/quote]Not quite true. Someone on benefits still pays tax. There are more traces than just income tax. and in most cases all the money goes to pay for food and bills. Just because someone is on benefits doesn't mean they're sponging or not paying tax. frank

9:35am Wed 29 Jan 14

frank says...

oops !!! traces should be taxes :-)
oops !!! traces should be taxes :-) frank

9:41am Wed 29 Jan 14

AnthonyUK says...

frank wrote:
AnthonyUK wrote:
What gives ANYONE the right to use benefits as a lifestyle choice and live off the taxpayer when the spongers put NOTHING back?
Not quite true. Someone on benefits still pays tax. There are more traces than just income tax. and in most cases all the money goes to pay for food and bills. Just because someone is on benefits doesn't mean they're sponging or not paying tax.
If you watch benefits street on channel4 you will see people illegally earning money while on benefit and if the govt deems that illegal then why should they turn a blind eye to it?
[quote][p][bold]frank[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AnthonyUK[/bold] wrote: What gives ANYONE the right to use benefits as a lifestyle choice and live off the taxpayer when the spongers put NOTHING back?[/p][/quote]Not quite true. Someone on benefits still pays tax. There are more traces than just income tax. and in most cases all the money goes to pay for food and bills. Just because someone is on benefits doesn't mean they're sponging or not paying tax.[/p][/quote]If you watch benefits street on channel4 you will see people illegally earning money while on benefit and if the govt deems that illegal then why should they turn a blind eye to it? AnthonyUK

9:43am Wed 29 Jan 14

AnthonyUK says...

frank wrote:
AnthonyUK wrote:
What gives ANYONE the right to use benefits as a lifestyle choice and live off the taxpayer when the spongers put NOTHING back?
Not quite true. Someone on benefits still pays tax. There are more traces than just income tax. and in most cases all the money goes to pay for food and bills. Just because someone is on benefits doesn't mean they're sponging or not paying tax.
Also some people deliberately see benefits as a lifestyle choice over a well paid job and go for the benefits option over a job;why is this fair and why should it be the norm?
[quote][p][bold]frank[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AnthonyUK[/bold] wrote: What gives ANYONE the right to use benefits as a lifestyle choice and live off the taxpayer when the spongers put NOTHING back?[/p][/quote]Not quite true. Someone on benefits still pays tax. There are more traces than just income tax. and in most cases all the money goes to pay for food and bills. Just because someone is on benefits doesn't mean they're sponging or not paying tax.[/p][/quote]Also some people deliberately see benefits as a lifestyle choice over a well paid job and go for the benefits option over a job;why is this fair and why should it be the norm? AnthonyUK

11:33am Wed 29 Jan 14

frank says...

the people on benefits street are not representative of the vast majority of people on benefits.
thieves will always be thieves whether working or not. just look at big business and politics.
those on but not fiddling benefits are not living in luxury.
maybe it's time for a programme showing what it's really like for the genuine claimants?
the people on benefits street are not representative of the vast majority of people on benefits. thieves will always be thieves whether working or not. just look at big business and politics. those on but not fiddling benefits are not living in luxury. maybe it's time for a programme showing what it's really like for the genuine claimants? frank

12:17pm Wed 29 Jan 14

drunken donut says...

I know of 2 people in the Burnley area who claim benefits whilst making money in the black economy, neither of them seem to see anything wrong with this.
I know of 2 people in the Burnley area who claim benefits whilst making money in the black economy, neither of them seem to see anything wrong with this. drunken donut

12:38pm Wed 29 Jan 14

Interocitor says...

This (see link) is the real Benefits Street.

http://tinyurl.com/m
ohr945
This (see link) is the real Benefits Street. http://tinyurl.com/m ohr945 Interocitor

12:53pm Wed 29 Jan 14

leyton says...

easy to make the unemployment look good .After 3/6 months you run out of stamps etc so can't claim and are thrown of : the JS so this is used by the gov to measure jobless people simple.
easy to make the unemployment look good .After 3/6 months you run out of stamps etc so can't claim and are thrown of : the JS so this is used by the gov to measure jobless people simple. leyton

1:44pm Wed 29 Jan 14

DaveBurnley says...

drunken donut wrote:
I know of 2 people in the Burnley area who claim benefits whilst making money in the black economy, neither of them seem to see anything wrong with this.
Just because 2 are fiddling their benefits doesn't mean that all benefit claimants are on the fiddle.
[quote][p][bold]drunken donut[/bold] wrote: I know of 2 people in the Burnley area who claim benefits whilst making money in the black economy, neither of them seem to see anything wrong with this.[/p][/quote]Just because 2 are fiddling their benefits doesn't mean that all benefit claimants are on the fiddle. DaveBurnley

6:47pm Wed 29 Jan 14

Lancs - pensioner says...

frank wrote:
AnthonyUK wrote:
What gives ANYONE the right to use benefits as a lifestyle choice and live off the taxpayer when the spongers put NOTHING back?
Not quite true. Someone on benefits still pays tax. There are more traces than just income tax. and in most cases all the money goes to pay for food and bills. Just because someone is on benefits doesn't mean they're sponging or not paying tax.
Hi Frank I'm glad you said most cases because from what I've seen my first questions at the dole office would be,

Do you have a mobile Phone?

Do you have 52 inch colour TV?

Do you have a bloody Rock wailer that costs twenty pound a week to feed?

If the answer to any of these was yes I would stop the dole, why, because as a pensioner who has worked 43 years of my life I can't afford any of them!!!

On a positive note to make sure the real benefits claimants didn't starve or go cold I would give out vouchers for food only (not fags or booze) and give vouchers for the power company's so the needy don't go cold, it's called welcome to my world.
[quote][p][bold]frank[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AnthonyUK[/bold] wrote: What gives ANYONE the right to use benefits as a lifestyle choice and live off the taxpayer when the spongers put NOTHING back?[/p][/quote]Not quite true. Someone on benefits still pays tax. There are more traces than just income tax. and in most cases all the money goes to pay for food and bills. Just because someone is on benefits doesn't mean they're sponging or not paying tax.[/p][/quote]Hi Frank I'm glad you said most cases because from what I've seen my first questions at the dole office would be, Do you have a mobile Phone? Do you have 52 inch colour TV? Do you have a bloody Rock wailer that costs twenty pound a week to feed? If the answer to any of these was yes I would stop the dole, why, because as a pensioner who has worked 43 years of my life I can't afford any of them!!! On a positive note to make sure the real benefits claimants didn't starve or go cold I would give out vouchers for food only (not fags or booze) and give vouchers for the power company's so the needy don't go cold, it's called welcome to my world. Lancs - pensioner

7:46pm Wed 29 Jan 14

zabby says...

Don't think for 1 minuet these unfortunate people which most of them are have found work,simple fact is the dole is near impossible to claim these days and if you do finally get a payment ,they the scum who work for the job centre do their best to get any payments due to you suspended,,I myself now work full time thank god but I have been at the mercy of those heartless scumbags at the benefits agency,so unless you've been there stop abusing people who are already having a bad time
Don't think for 1 minuet these unfortunate people which most of them are have found work,simple fact is the dole is near impossible to claim these days and if you do finally get a payment ,they the scum who work for the job centre do their best to get any payments due to you suspended,,I myself now work full time thank god but I have been at the mercy of those heartless scumbags at the benefits agency,so unless you've been there stop abusing people who are already having a bad time zabby

8:25pm Wed 29 Jan 14

Steven Seagull says...

drunken donut wrote:
I know of 2 people in the Burnley area who claim benefits whilst making money in the black economy, neither of them seem to see anything wrong with this.
Are you going to be an upstanding citizen and shop them?
[quote][p][bold]drunken donut[/bold] wrote: I know of 2 people in the Burnley area who claim benefits whilst making money in the black economy, neither of them seem to see anything wrong with this.[/p][/quote]Are you going to be an upstanding citizen and shop them? Steven Seagull

9:38pm Wed 29 Jan 14

zabby says...

Drunken donut stop worrying about those 2 people,and worry about something worth worrying about for eg 1 million illegal immigrants using hospitals,doctors,po
lice the list goes on
Drunken donut stop worrying about those 2 people,and worry about something worth worrying about for eg 1 million illegal immigrants using hospitals,doctors,po lice the list goes on zabby

11:31am Thu 30 Jan 14

juanbbien says...

Lancs - pensioner wrote:
frank wrote:
AnthonyUK wrote:
What gives ANYONE the right to use benefits as a lifestyle choice and live off the taxpayer when the spongers put NOTHING back?
Not quite true. Someone on benefits still pays tax. There are more traces than just income tax. and in most cases all the money goes to pay for food and bills. Just because someone is on benefits doesn't mean they're sponging or not paying tax.
Hi Frank I'm glad you said most cases because from what I've seen my first questions at the dole office would be,

Do you have a mobile Phone?

Do you have 52 inch colour TV?

Do you have a bloody Rock wailer that costs twenty pound a week to feed?

If the answer to any of these was yes I would stop the dole, why, because as a pensioner who has worked 43 years of my life I can't afford any of them!!!

On a positive note to make sure the real benefits claimants didn't starve or go cold I would give out vouchers for food only (not fags or booze) and give vouchers for the power company's so the needy don't go cold, it's called welcome to my world.
Giving vouchers out doesn't solve the problem,they just sell them for booze,fags,drugs,wha
tever and if they have children which is most likely they then go for handouts to the Social Sevices who by Governmet legislation can't see children starve,the Social Workers know the score but have to abide by this ruling,they are just as infuriated as the rest of us workers,but that's how it goes,on a lighter note are those Rock wailers into Heavy Metal or Rock and Roll
[quote][p][bold]Lancs - pensioner[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]frank[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AnthonyUK[/bold] wrote: What gives ANYONE the right to use benefits as a lifestyle choice and live off the taxpayer when the spongers put NOTHING back?[/p][/quote]Not quite true. Someone on benefits still pays tax. There are more traces than just income tax. and in most cases all the money goes to pay for food and bills. Just because someone is on benefits doesn't mean they're sponging or not paying tax.[/p][/quote]Hi Frank I'm glad you said most cases because from what I've seen my first questions at the dole office would be, Do you have a mobile Phone? Do you have 52 inch colour TV? Do you have a bloody Rock wailer that costs twenty pound a week to feed? If the answer to any of these was yes I would stop the dole, why, because as a pensioner who has worked 43 years of my life I can't afford any of them!!! On a positive note to make sure the real benefits claimants didn't starve or go cold I would give out vouchers for food only (not fags or booze) and give vouchers for the power company's so the needy don't go cold, it's called welcome to my world.[/p][/quote]Giving vouchers out doesn't solve the problem,they just sell them for booze,fags,drugs,wha tever and if they have children which is most likely they then go for handouts to the Social Sevices who by Governmet legislation can't see children starve,the Social Workers know the score but have to abide by this ruling,they are just as infuriated as the rest of us workers,but that's how it goes,on a lighter note are those Rock wailers into Heavy Metal or Rock and Roll juanbbien

12:42pm Thu 30 Jan 14

crammster11 says...

who ever thinks these figures are correct let me tell u somert the jobcentre are kicking people of jsa and putting them on hardship allowance thus mixing the figures when in actual fact possibly all the people who claim they have got people in work is rubbish i know this as i am one of the people this has happened to and i no many more
who ever thinks these figures are correct let me tell u somert the jobcentre are kicking people of jsa and putting them on hardship allowance thus mixing the figures when in actual fact possibly all the people who claim they have got people in work is rubbish i know this as i am one of the people this has happened to and i no many more crammster11

12:50pm Thu 30 Jan 14

crammster11 says...

the jobcentre are sanctioning more people leaving them destitute they transfer u from jsa to hardship thus look one more of the dole which is just a cover up every day in the jobcentre some poor sole will be told u r 2 mins late thus sanctioned for 4 weeks thus live on 43 quid fortnight and food banks and this makes the joke shop look like more people are in work this happened to me so this is fact im talking not trash like most of u idiots on here all i can say is wait till it happens to you and see how low u have to go this is england were the truth is irelevant this is what u get when u vote conservative
the jobcentre are sanctioning more people leaving them destitute they transfer u from jsa to hardship thus look one more of the dole which is just a cover up every day in the jobcentre some poor sole will be told u r 2 mins late thus sanctioned for 4 weeks thus live on 43 quid fortnight and food banks and this makes the joke shop look like more people are in work this happened to me so this is fact im talking not trash like most of u idiots on here all i can say is wait till it happens to you and see how low u have to go this is england were the truth is irelevant this is what u get when u vote conservative crammster11

12:53pm Thu 30 Jan 14

crammster11 says...

juanbbien wrote:
Lancs - pensioner wrote:
frank wrote:
AnthonyUK wrote: What gives ANYONE the right to use benefits as a lifestyle choice and live off the taxpayer when the spongers put NOTHING back?
Not quite true. Someone on benefits still pays tax. There are more traces than just income tax. and in most cases all the money goes to pay for food and bills. Just because someone is on benefits doesn't mean they're sponging or not paying tax.
Hi Frank I'm glad you said most cases because from what I've seen my first questions at the dole office would be, Do you have a mobile Phone? Do you have 52 inch colour TV? Do you have a bloody Rock wailer that costs twenty pound a week to feed? If the answer to any of these was yes I would stop the dole, why, because as a pensioner who has worked 43 years of my life I can't afford any of them!!! On a positive note to make sure the real benefits claimants didn't starve or go cold I would give out vouchers for food only (not fags or booze) and give vouchers for the power company's so the needy don't go cold, it's called welcome to my world.
Giving vouchers out doesn't solve the problem,they just sell them for booze,fags,drugs,wha tever and if they have children which is most likely they then go for handouts to the Social Sevices who by Governmet legislation can't see children starve,the Social Workers know the score but have to abide by this ruling,they are just as infuriated as the rest of us workers,but that's how it goes,on a lighter note are those Rock wailers into Heavy Metal or Rock and Roll
idiot u must read a book or get out more u fool look what u wrote u need education my boy u r a class 1 tool look at the dog mess u wright
[quote][p][bold]juanbbien[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lancs - pensioner[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]frank[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AnthonyUK[/bold] wrote: What gives ANYONE the right to use benefits as a lifestyle choice and live off the taxpayer when the spongers put NOTHING back?[/p][/quote]Not quite true. Someone on benefits still pays tax. There are more traces than just income tax. and in most cases all the money goes to pay for food and bills. Just because someone is on benefits doesn't mean they're sponging or not paying tax.[/p][/quote]Hi Frank I'm glad you said most cases because from what I've seen my first questions at the dole office would be, Do you have a mobile Phone? Do you have 52 inch colour TV? Do you have a bloody Rock wailer that costs twenty pound a week to feed? If the answer to any of these was yes I would stop the dole, why, because as a pensioner who has worked 43 years of my life I can't afford any of them!!! On a positive note to make sure the real benefits claimants didn't starve or go cold I would give out vouchers for food only (not fags or booze) and give vouchers for the power company's so the needy don't go cold, it's called welcome to my world.[/p][/quote]Giving vouchers out doesn't solve the problem,they just sell them for booze,fags,drugs,wha tever and if they have children which is most likely they then go for handouts to the Social Sevices who by Governmet legislation can't see children starve,the Social Workers know the score but have to abide by this ruling,they are just as infuriated as the rest of us workers,but that's how it goes,on a lighter note are those Rock wailers into Heavy Metal or Rock and Roll[/p][/quote]idiot u must read a book or get out more u fool look what u wrote u need education my boy u r a class 1 tool look at the dog mess u wright crammster11

12:53pm Thu 30 Jan 14

crammster11 says...

juanbbien wrote:
Lancs - pensioner wrote:
frank wrote:
AnthonyUK wrote: What gives ANYONE the right to use benefits as a lifestyle choice and live off the taxpayer when the spongers put NOTHING back?
Not quite true. Someone on benefits still pays tax. There are more traces than just income tax. and in most cases all the money goes to pay for food and bills. Just because someone is on benefits doesn't mean they're sponging or not paying tax.
Hi Frank I'm glad you said most cases because from what I've seen my first questions at the dole office would be, Do you have a mobile Phone? Do you have 52 inch colour TV? Do you have a bloody Rock wailer that costs twenty pound a week to feed? If the answer to any of these was yes I would stop the dole, why, because as a pensioner who has worked 43 years of my life I can't afford any of them!!! On a positive note to make sure the real benefits claimants didn't starve or go cold I would give out vouchers for food only (not fags or booze) and give vouchers for the power company's so the needy don't go cold, it's called welcome to my world.
Giving vouchers out doesn't solve the problem,they just sell them for booze,fags,drugs,wha tever and if they have children which is most likely they then go for handouts to the Social Sevices who by Governmet legislation can't see children starve,the Social Workers know the score but have to abide by this ruling,they are just as infuriated as the rest of us workers,but that's how it goes,on a lighter note are those Rock wailers into Heavy Metal or Rock and Roll
idiot u must read a book or get out more u fool look what u wrote u need education my boy u r a class 1 tool look at the dog mess u wright
[quote][p][bold]juanbbien[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lancs - pensioner[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]frank[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AnthonyUK[/bold] wrote: What gives ANYONE the right to use benefits as a lifestyle choice and live off the taxpayer when the spongers put NOTHING back?[/p][/quote]Not quite true. Someone on benefits still pays tax. There are more traces than just income tax. and in most cases all the money goes to pay for food and bills. Just because someone is on benefits doesn't mean they're sponging or not paying tax.[/p][/quote]Hi Frank I'm glad you said most cases because from what I've seen my first questions at the dole office would be, Do you have a mobile Phone? Do you have 52 inch colour TV? Do you have a bloody Rock wailer that costs twenty pound a week to feed? If the answer to any of these was yes I would stop the dole, why, because as a pensioner who has worked 43 years of my life I can't afford any of them!!! On a positive note to make sure the real benefits claimants didn't starve or go cold I would give out vouchers for food only (not fags or booze) and give vouchers for the power company's so the needy don't go cold, it's called welcome to my world.[/p][/quote]Giving vouchers out doesn't solve the problem,they just sell them for booze,fags,drugs,wha tever and if they have children which is most likely they then go for handouts to the Social Sevices who by Governmet legislation can't see children starve,the Social Workers know the score but have to abide by this ruling,they are just as infuriated as the rest of us workers,but that's how it goes,on a lighter note are those Rock wailers into Heavy Metal or Rock and Roll[/p][/quote]idiot u must read a book or get out more u fool look what u wrote u need education my boy u r a class 1 tool look at the dog mess u wright crammster11

10:02am Fri 31 Jan 14

Lancs - pensioner says...

juanbbien wrote:
Lancs - pensioner wrote:
frank wrote:
AnthonyUK wrote:
What gives ANYONE the right to use benefits as a lifestyle choice and live off the taxpayer when the spongers put NOTHING back?
Not quite true. Someone on benefits still pays tax. There are more traces than just income tax. and in most cases all the money goes to pay for food and bills. Just because someone is on benefits doesn't mean they're sponging or not paying tax.
Hi Frank I'm glad you said most cases because from what I've seen my first questions at the dole office would be,

Do you have a mobile Phone?

Do you have 52 inch colour TV?

Do you have a bloody Rock wailer that costs twenty pound a week to feed?

If the answer to any of these was yes I would stop the dole, why, because as a pensioner who has worked 43 years of my life I can't afford any of them!!!

On a positive note to make sure the real benefits claimants didn't starve or go cold I would give out vouchers for food only (not fags or booze) and give vouchers for the power company's so the needy don't go cold, it's called welcome to my world.
Giving vouchers out doesn't solve the problem,they just sell them for booze,fags,drugs,wha

tever and if they have children which is most likely they then go for handouts to the Social Sevices who by Governmet legislation can't see children starve,the Social Workers know the score but have to abide by this ruling,they are just as infuriated as the rest of us workers,but that's how it goes,on a lighter note are those Rock wailers into Heavy Metal or Rock and Roll
Where's spell check when u need it!!!
[quote][p][bold]juanbbien[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lancs - pensioner[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]frank[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AnthonyUK[/bold] wrote: What gives ANYONE the right to use benefits as a lifestyle choice and live off the taxpayer when the spongers put NOTHING back?[/p][/quote]Not quite true. Someone on benefits still pays tax. There are more traces than just income tax. and in most cases all the money goes to pay for food and bills. Just because someone is on benefits doesn't mean they're sponging or not paying tax.[/p][/quote]Hi Frank I'm glad you said most cases because from what I've seen my first questions at the dole office would be, Do you have a mobile Phone? Do you have 52 inch colour TV? Do you have a bloody Rock wailer that costs twenty pound a week to feed? If the answer to any of these was yes I would stop the dole, why, because as a pensioner who has worked 43 years of my life I can't afford any of them!!! On a positive note to make sure the real benefits claimants didn't starve or go cold I would give out vouchers for food only (not fags or booze) and give vouchers for the power company's so the needy don't go cold, it's called welcome to my world.[/p][/quote]Giving vouchers out doesn't solve the problem,they just sell them for booze,fags,drugs,wha tever and if they have children which is most likely they then go for handouts to the Social Sevices who by Governmet legislation can't see children starve,the Social Workers know the score but have to abide by this ruling,they are just as infuriated as the rest of us workers,but that's how it goes,on a lighter note are those Rock wailers into Heavy Metal or Rock and Roll[/p][/quote]Where's spell check when u need it!!! Lancs - pensioner

10:03am Fri 31 Jan 14

Lancs - pensioner says...

crammster11 wrote:
juanbbien wrote:
Lancs - pensioner wrote:
frank wrote:
AnthonyUK wrote: What gives ANYONE the right to use benefits as a lifestyle choice and live off the taxpayer when the spongers put NOTHING back?
Not quite true. Someone on benefits still pays tax. There are more traces than just income tax. and in most cases all the money goes to pay for food and bills. Just because someone is on benefits doesn't mean they're sponging or not paying tax.
Hi Frank I'm glad you said most cases because from what I've seen my first questions at the dole office would be, Do you have a mobile Phone? Do you have 52 inch colour TV? Do you have a bloody Rock wailer that costs twenty pound a week to feed? If the answer to any of these was yes I would stop the dole, why, because as a pensioner who has worked 43 years of my life I can't afford any of them!!! On a positive note to make sure the real benefits claimants didn't starve or go cold I would give out vouchers for food only (not fags or booze) and give vouchers for the power company's so the needy don't go cold, it's called welcome to my world.
Giving vouchers out doesn't solve the problem,they just sell them for booze,fags,drugs,wha tever and if they have children which is most likely they then go for handouts to the Social Sevices who by Governmet legislation can't see children starve,the Social Workers know the score but have to abide by this ruling,they are just as infuriated as the rest of us workers,but that's how it goes,on a lighter note are those Rock wailers into Heavy Metal or Rock and Roll
idiot u must read a book or get out more u fool look what u wrote u need education my boy u r a class 1 tool look at the dog mess u wright
On the dole are we? Thought so.
[quote][p][bold]crammster11[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]juanbbien[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lancs - pensioner[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]frank[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AnthonyUK[/bold] wrote: What gives ANYONE the right to use benefits as a lifestyle choice and live off the taxpayer when the spongers put NOTHING back?[/p][/quote]Not quite true. Someone on benefits still pays tax. There are more traces than just income tax. and in most cases all the money goes to pay for food and bills. Just because someone is on benefits doesn't mean they're sponging or not paying tax.[/p][/quote]Hi Frank I'm glad you said most cases because from what I've seen my first questions at the dole office would be, Do you have a mobile Phone? Do you have 52 inch colour TV? Do you have a bloody Rock wailer that costs twenty pound a week to feed? If the answer to any of these was yes I would stop the dole, why, because as a pensioner who has worked 43 years of my life I can't afford any of them!!! On a positive note to make sure the real benefits claimants didn't starve or go cold I would give out vouchers for food only (not fags or booze) and give vouchers for the power company's so the needy don't go cold, it's called welcome to my world.[/p][/quote]Giving vouchers out doesn't solve the problem,they just sell them for booze,fags,drugs,wha tever and if they have children which is most likely they then go for handouts to the Social Sevices who by Governmet legislation can't see children starve,the Social Workers know the score but have to abide by this ruling,they are just as infuriated as the rest of us workers,but that's how it goes,on a lighter note are those Rock wailers into Heavy Metal or Rock and Roll[/p][/quote]idiot u must read a book or get out more u fool look what u wrote u need education my boy u r a class 1 tool look at the dog mess u wright[/p][/quote]On the dole are we? Thought so. Lancs - pensioner

10:10am Fri 31 Jan 14

Lancs - pensioner says...

crammster11 wrote:
the jobcentre are sanctioning more people leaving them destitute they transfer u from jsa to hardship thus look one more of the dole which is just a cover up every day in the jobcentre some poor sole will be told u r 2 mins late thus sanctioned for 4 weeks thus live on 43 quid fortnight and food banks and this makes the joke shop look like more people are in work this happened to me so this is fact im talking not trash like most of u idiots on here all i can say is wait till it happens to you and see how low u have to go this is england were the truth is irelevant this is what u get when u vote conservative
Your the expert on this subject I'll give you that, I'm not as I never claimed dole in my 43 year working life. I signed on twice and signed of the next day as I went out and got a job, any job.
Funny how all these hard working immigrants flooding the country find work, The Polish are a typical example, they come over here and will do any job, cleaning, hotel work, yes they may be on the minimum wage but at least they get of there backsides and work, I suggest you do the same.
[quote][p][bold]crammster11[/bold] wrote: the jobcentre are sanctioning more people leaving them destitute they transfer u from jsa to hardship thus look one more of the dole which is just a cover up every day in the jobcentre some poor sole will be told u r 2 mins late thus sanctioned for 4 weeks thus live on 43 quid fortnight and food banks and this makes the joke shop look like more people are in work this happened to me so this is fact im talking not trash like most of u idiots on here all i can say is wait till it happens to you and see how low u have to go this is england were the truth is irelevant this is what u get when u vote conservative[/p][/quote]Your the expert on this subject I'll give you that, I'm not as I never claimed dole in my 43 year working life. I signed on twice and signed of the next day as I went out and got a job, any job. Funny how all these hard working immigrants flooding the country find work, The Polish are a typical example, they come over here and will do any job, cleaning, hotel work, yes they may be on the minimum wage but at least they get of there backsides and work, I suggest you do the same. Lancs - pensioner

1:41pm Sat 1 Feb 14

crammster11 says...

i worked for the british army for 22 years service exemplary service i got made redundent from fire brigade for going on strike then had to claim benefits as i have a morgage iahe worked since the ae of 16 you people talk trash i have a job now and have only ever been on dole fro 2 years out of 30 thus like i said you talk rubbish possibly a polish immigrant who has taken a job meant for british people as usual you think cleaning toilets is a step up from rooting threw dump sites total ignorence and the shear belief u belon here because you are willing to pick dopg turd of the street as thats all u r fit for i worked hard killing the taliban and am disgusted people like u would be living with your whole family in a ditch in poland i have 12 millitary medals to go with what i have achieved in my life what have you got apart from total ignorence fool
i worked for the british army for 22 years service exemplary service i got made redundent from fire brigade for going on strike then had to claim benefits as i have a morgage iahe worked since the ae of 16 you people talk trash i have a job now and have only ever been on dole fro 2 years out of 30 thus like i said you talk rubbish possibly a polish immigrant who has taken a job meant for british people as usual you think cleaning toilets is a step up from rooting threw dump sites total ignorence and the shear belief u belon here because you are willing to pick dopg turd of the street as thats all u r fit for i worked hard killing the taliban and am disgusted people like u would be living with your whole family in a ditch in poland i have 12 millitary medals to go with what i have achieved in my life what have you got apart from total ignorence fool crammster11

1:46pm Sat 1 Feb 14

crammster11 says...

you sound like you r from poland the place that resembles a total failed state were the national dish is rat on toast of course you will pick dog mess from the floor and love it and bag some of it as a delicatesan for the family at home you dont no facts you have zero education and i bet you live in a flat with 600 other polish immigrants true or whta
you sound like you r from poland the place that resembles a total failed state were the national dish is rat on toast of course you will pick dog mess from the floor and love it and bag some of it as a delicatesan for the family at home you dont no facts you have zero education and i bet you live in a flat with 600 other polish immigrants true or whta crammster11

1:53pm Sat 1 Feb 14

crammster11 says...

Lancs - pensioner wrote:
crammster11 wrote: the jobcentre are sanctioning more people leaving them destitute they transfer u from jsa to hardship thus look one more of the dole which is just a cover up every day in the jobcentre some poor sole will be told u r 2 mins late thus sanctioned for 4 weeks thus live on 43 quid fortnight and food banks and this makes the joke shop look like more people are in work this happened to me so this is fact im talking not trash like most of u idiots on here all i can say is wait till it happens to you and see how low u have to go this is england were the truth is irelevant this is what u get when u vote conservative
Your the expert on this subject I'll give you that, I'm not as I never claimed dole in my 43 year working life. I signed on twice and signed of the next day as I went out and got a job, any job. Funny how all these hard working immigrants flooding the country find work, The Polish are a typical example, they come over here and will do any job, cleaning, hotel work, yes they may be on the minimum wage but at least they get of there backsides and work, I suggest you do the same.
you are polish u havemt worked a day in you life u came to this country so u can staeal from us brits u come here because you country is ruined failed state you live in holes in a dump site of course u coming here cleaning toilets you have zero education just a mouth peace you take the jobs from british peole and i hope they slam the boredors on people like u realyy you sound like a biggot who watches benfit street then believ e its fact well its not true just like coronation street isnt real come on read a book or get educated please u come across like a idiot do u have a carer who changes yoour nappies
[quote][p][bold]Lancs - pensioner[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]crammster11[/bold] wrote: the jobcentre are sanctioning more people leaving them destitute they transfer u from jsa to hardship thus look one more of the dole which is just a cover up every day in the jobcentre some poor sole will be told u r 2 mins late thus sanctioned for 4 weeks thus live on 43 quid fortnight and food banks and this makes the joke shop look like more people are in work this happened to me so this is fact im talking not trash like most of u idiots on here all i can say is wait till it happens to you and see how low u have to go this is england were the truth is irelevant this is what u get when u vote conservative[/p][/quote]Your the expert on this subject I'll give you that, I'm not as I never claimed dole in my 43 year working life. I signed on twice and signed of the next day as I went out and got a job, any job. Funny how all these hard working immigrants flooding the country find work, The Polish are a typical example, they come over here and will do any job, cleaning, hotel work, yes they may be on the minimum wage but at least they get of there backsides and work, I suggest you do the same.[/p][/quote]you are polish u havemt worked a day in you life u came to this country so u can staeal from us brits u come here because you country is ruined failed state you live in holes in a dump site of course u coming here cleaning toilets you have zero education just a mouth peace you take the jobs from british peole and i hope they slam the boredors on people like u realyy you sound like a biggot who watches benfit street then believ e its fact well its not true just like coronation street isnt real come on read a book or get educated please u come across like a idiot do u have a carer who changes yoour nappies crammster11

5:18pm Sat 1 Feb 14

Lancs - pensioner says...

crammster11 wrote:
Lancs - pensioner wrote:
crammster11 wrote: the jobcentre are sanctioning more people leaving them destitute they transfer u from jsa to hardship thus look one more of the dole which is just a cover up every day in the jobcentre some poor sole will be told u r 2 mins late thus sanctioned for 4 weeks thus live on 43 quid fortnight and food banks and this makes the joke shop look like more people are in work this happened to me so this is fact im talking not trash like most of u idiots on here all i can say is wait till it happens to you and see how low u have to go this is england were the truth is irelevant this is what u get when u vote conservative
Your the expert on this subject I'll give you that, I'm not as I never claimed dole in my 43 year working life. I signed on twice and signed of the next day as I went out and got a job, any job. Funny how all these hard working immigrants flooding the country find work, The Polish are a typical example, they come over here and will do any job, cleaning, hotel work, yes they may be on the minimum wage but at least they get of there backsides and work, I suggest you do the same.
you are polish u havemt worked a day in you life u came to this country so u can staeal from us brits u come here because you country is ruined failed state you live in holes in a dump site of course u coming here cleaning toilets you have zero education just a mouth peace you take the jobs from british peole and i hope they slam the boredors on people like u realyy you sound like a biggot who watches benfit street then believ e its fact well its not true just like coronation street isnt real come on read a book or get educated please u come across like a idiot do u have a carer who changes yoour nappies
Reading your English young man it's not me whose polish, grow up and get back to work you lazy bar steward,
[quote][p][bold]crammster11[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lancs - pensioner[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]crammster11[/bold] wrote: the jobcentre are sanctioning more people leaving them destitute they transfer u from jsa to hardship thus look one more of the dole which is just a cover up every day in the jobcentre some poor sole will be told u r 2 mins late thus sanctioned for 4 weeks thus live on 43 quid fortnight and food banks and this makes the joke shop look like more people are in work this happened to me so this is fact im talking not trash like most of u idiots on here all i can say is wait till it happens to you and see how low u have to go this is england were the truth is irelevant this is what u get when u vote conservative[/p][/quote]Your the expert on this subject I'll give you that, I'm not as I never claimed dole in my 43 year working life. I signed on twice and signed of the next day as I went out and got a job, any job. Funny how all these hard working immigrants flooding the country find work, The Polish are a typical example, they come over here and will do any job, cleaning, hotel work, yes they may be on the minimum wage but at least they get of there backsides and work, I suggest you do the same.[/p][/quote]you are polish u havemt worked a day in you life u came to this country so u can staeal from us brits u come here because you country is ruined failed state you live in holes in a dump site of course u coming here cleaning toilets you have zero education just a mouth peace you take the jobs from british peole and i hope they slam the boredors on people like u realyy you sound like a biggot who watches benfit street then believ e its fact well its not true just like coronation street isnt real come on read a book or get educated please u come across like a idiot do u have a carer who changes yoour nappies[/p][/quote]Reading your English young man it's not me whose polish, grow up and get back to work you lazy bar steward, Lancs - pensioner

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