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Storm over plan for gipsy caravans in Padiham


RESIDENTS and traders are fighting plans to create a gipsy caravan site in the middle of their town.

A petition containing more than 50 signatures has been collected against the plans to create a permanent caravan site in Padiham.

However, all borough councils are committed to making provision for gipsy communities.

The site, at the rear Peel Street and Pendle Street, was formerly a builders yard and is currently vacant.

The proposal involves placing three caravans on the site and a small single-storey building for shower and toilet facilities.

The site would accommodate one family of up to 23 people.

Two car parking spaces would be provided on site.

But Paul Howard, of Peel Street, who lives directly in front of the site earmarked for the caravans, said he was concerned about the impact it would have on his two children.

“I have two young boys aged 11 and 14 and they are at the age where they are very impressionable,” he said.

“I don’t want them falling in with the wrong crowd or getting into any trouble.

"If these families were racing around on scrambler bikes then my children would be interested in that.

“The noise nuisance is another major issue. The site is that close to my house that if they are up until the early hours of the morning then my children are going to be unable to sleep.

“They are both at critical stages of their education and I can’t have them being kept up all hours because of noise.”

A campaign to try and stop the gipsy site has been started by local councillor Frank Cant, who has been collecting signatures for the petition and distributing leaflets to local residents.

Coun Cant said: “Having spoken to many residents about the plans, I think they are all against it.

“There are very good planning reasons for it to be rejected, but I know certain people have gut reactions about these sort of things.

“It would be very, very dangerous for access and would create noise and anti-social behaviour problems.

“The site is not big enough for three caravans, it is an awkward shape and I just can’t see how three caravans will fit there.”

Local businesses including the chip shop and newsagents have all joined the campaign against the plans.

Karen McEwan, of Pendle Street, said the plans would make parking problems worse on the street.

She said: “Nine times out of ten you can’t park outside your house anyway.

"This will only make things worse. The family are going to have cars and will have visitors who have to park somewhere.

“There is simply not enough room to have the site here.

"I am not against travellers but this is not the right location for them. There isn’t enough access space for them.”

Residents have also spoken of the impact a caravan site would have on the local community.

Kelly Marshall, of Peel Street, said: “The site isn’t big enough and it will create tension between the family and the rest of the street.”

Despite the protests, the council could be in a position where they have to approve the site, because of a Government policy that obliges local authorities to allow some gipsy sites in their area.

A spokesman for the applicant said: “A Government circular states Local Planning Authorities are required to make adequate provision for gipsy sites in their development plans.

“Currently there are no identified sites for gipsies and travellers within Burnley.

“In conclusion it is reasoned that the proposal provides a suitable gipsy caravan site and would assist in meeting the demand and need to provide gipsy and traveller sites within the borough of Burnley.”

Comments(38)

akon says...
10:08am Thu 25 Feb 10

If Frank Cant ( Labour) is involved you've had it, i'm afraid.
Vote Labour ,you get what you deserve !!

Akki says...
11:17am Thu 25 Feb 10

""A petition containing more than 50 signatures has been collected against the plans to create a permanent caravan site in Padiham. ""

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Just 50 signatures objecting out of a population of 20,000? i think thats a definetly a win for the yes campaign, and a good thing too.

Mikeee47 says...
11:34am Thu 25 Feb 10

1st I've heard of it like many people, maybe thats why only 50 names on the petition, I will be adding mine,
why not stick them down stonyholme, near the council tip , plenty of land there to put them in that area.

Izanears says...
11:53am Thu 25 Feb 10

I do wish people would differentiate between gypsies and travellers. Today there are few genuine gypsies, those who generally park illegally are travellers. There is a world of difference.
By the way. Did anyone else read the newspaper report yesterday where the police had found a stolen vehicle on an illegal travellers site, but dare not go and get it back, for fear of being attacked?

Gaius Grossus says...
12:57pm Thu 25 Feb 10

A councillor called Cant, what a cracking name for such a person.

Mikeee47 says...
1:13pm Thu 25 Feb 10

Izanears wrote:
I do wish people would differentiate between gypsies and travellers. Today there are few genuine gypsies, those who generally park illegally are travellers. There is a world of difference. By the way. Did anyone else read the newspaper report yesterday where the police had found a stolen vehicle on an illegal travellers site, but dare not go and get it back, for fear of being attacked?
Yet they can send in 60 police officers in riot gear to raid a pub in Blackburn. We live in sorry times when even the people employed to serve & protect US,can't & won't do their job.

AnthonyUK says...
1:46pm Thu 25 Feb 10

This site will create trouble and resentment amongst local residents

Padiham_Teacher says...
4:36pm Thu 25 Feb 10

I am a resident of Pendle Street and am in the (un)enviable position of being one of the four or five properties directly overlooking this proposed site. I, along with my immediate neighbours am not pleased that this could potentially happen but our response must be measured and restrained. What must not happen is what I fear has begun to happen whereby the main response to the planning application is 'We don't want gypsies or travellers in our town'. This cannot be the response and those of us who are actually going to be affected by the plans are being very careful to state our case properly. My appeal is this: if your involvement in the case is merely cries of 'We don't want the likes of you in our town!', please stay well clear of any planning meetings. Already, I've had BNP propaganda through my door about how this is yet another sign of our nation's demise at the hands of outsiders and ne'er do wells. Well no it isn’t, so don’t try and use it to your advantage! We, the immediate neighbours are not most worried about who intends to take up residency on the site, we are worried about the already horrific parking situation on the street (yes, I’m talking to the chippy customers who choose to abandon their cars anywhere on the street of an evening!), the already disgusting state of the street (is it possible that Pendle Street is never even visited by street cleaners?!) and above all we are worried about how on earth the fire service would access our homes if they have to battle past a permanent traveller camp on our back street (on top of the abandoned chippy customer cars!).
As for people being disparaging about Cllr Cant, I can state categorically that so far he has been nothing but helpful and supportive. I don’t want this to turn into one of those awful L.E.T ranting message board wars about politics, race or religion; this is actually about hardworking taxpayers using their freedom of speech to defend what is theirs.
Finally, to those of you who have been making abusive and angry calls to the Planning Office, please stop immediately! You are not helping our case! Plus, the people you are abusing are merely the people who receive and process the planning proposals. In other words, more innocent and hardworking taxpayers!
The residents affected by this proposal sincerely appreciate your input on the matter but please work with us to ensure that it is dealt with in the best possible manner.

ganja man says...
6:03pm Thu 25 Feb 10

Classic case of NIMBY! Build the gypsy site in Padiham as is required by the law.
Gypsies too have rights to resources as other groups do in society.
Why are some people so scared of people who have a different culture and lifestyle?
Gypsies are good natured people who d little harm to others.
BNP activists are no doubt spreading lies about this site.
Usual suspects at it in Padiham

hoodle says...
9:35pm Thu 25 Feb 10

Typical lefty teacher and pot-head.

truepadihamer says...
12:28am Fri 26 Feb 10

Lefty teacher and pot-head! Teacher yes, Lefty & pot-head definately not!!! Before you start spouting about something you know nothing about, I suggest that all you people who do not even live in the area, call down and take a look at the proposed site. You will find that it is a normal back street's width away from the houses in question that the 'teacher' is talking about. Also you will find that the site is no where near big enough for the proposal, 3 caravans, two vehicles, up to 23 people and a toilet/shower block. More like 1 caravan, two at a push!! The people it will directly affect are concerned about the space and access to their own property in an emergency not about who will live there!!!! If this plan is given approval, whoever lives on the site will have to tow/drive large vehicles onto a back street that also has a bend just before the entrance to the site, an accident waiting to happen.

MargretofBurnley says...
2:42pm Fri 26 Feb 10

I can see why Cllr Cant is coming out of the woodwork. If he shows an interest in this planning application now wouldn't this be a conflict of interest with him being on the planning committee? He wont be able to vote for or against on the night right? And it appears this way he wont upset anyone as he is up for re-election this year and again its all about the votes right - not necessarily about the people of Padiham. I've not forgotten how the labour and the lib-dems have sold us out on the old college issue for the muslim vote.

RAyzer says...
3:23pm Fri 26 Feb 10

Padiham_Teacher wrote:
I am a resident of Pendle Street and am in the (un)enviable position of being one of the four or five properties directly overlooking this proposed site. I, along with my immediate neighbours am not pleased that this could potentially happen but our response must be measured and restrained. What must not happen is what I fear has begun to happen whereby the main response to the planning application is 'We don't want gypsies or travellers in our town'. This cannot be the response and those of us who are actually going to be affected by the plans are being very careful to state our case properly. My appeal is this: if your involvement in the case is merely cries of 'We don't want the likes of you in our town!', please stay well clear of any planning meetings. Already, I've had BNP propaganda through my door about how this is yet another sign of our nation's demise at the hands of outsiders and ne'er do wells. Well no it isn’t, so don’t try and use it to your advantage! We, the immediate neighbours are not most worried about who intends to take up residency on the site, we are worried about the already horrific parking situation on the street (yes, I’m talking to the chippy customers who choose to abandon their cars anywhere on the street of an evening!), the already disgusting state of the street (is it possible that Pendle Street is never even visited by street cleaners?!) and above all we are worried about how on earth the fire service would access our homes if they have to battle past a permanent traveller camp on our back street (on top of the abandoned chippy customer cars!).
As for people being disparaging about Cllr Cant, I can state categorically that so far he has been nothing but helpful and supportive. I don’t want this to turn into one of those awful L.E.T ranting message board wars about politics, race or religion; this is actually about hardworking taxpayers using their freedom of speech to defend what is theirs.
Finally, to those of you who have been making abusive and angry calls to the Planning Office, please stop immediately! You are not helping our case! Plus, the people you are abusing are merely the people who receive and process the planning proposals. In other words, more innocent and hardworking taxpayers!
The residents affected by this proposal sincerely appreciate your input on the matter but please work with us to ensure that it is dealt with in the best possible manner.
TYPICAL!!! brainwashed by labour,speak your mind,dont hide behind fire risks ETC..you dont want gypsys near your house!!!as for the counciller( cant),OBVIOUSLY hes going to be bending over backwards to help,weather hes any good or not,youl find out.....and il bet you DONT even live on that street your just a government or council employee!!

RAyzer says...
3:24pm Fri 26 Feb 10

padiham teacher AKA counciller cants mate...so obvious!!!!!what a labour propoganda and PC rant!!!

truepadihamer says...
3:39pm Fri 26 Feb 10

You are all way off the mark here and out of order!!! Padiham Teacher does actually live on the street and his house is in very close proximity to the gates of the site, along with the other neighbours who are concerned about what it will be used for not who will be using it. He is no closet racist, government or council employee or a friend of Councillor Cants for that matter. As I suggested in my earlier comment, have any of you actually been to the site to see if it is suitable?? Probably not, you are just 'ranting' for the sake of it, about something that does not involve you personally. I just wonder how you would react if you lived on the street. I suspect you would all have a different view about the matter then, how many of you would actually stand up and say you were racist then I wonder??? How many of you are actually going to the meeting to give your support for or against this proposal?

RAyzer says...
7:13am Sat 27 Feb 10

ganja man wrote:
Classic case of NIMBY! Build the gypsy site in Padiham as is required by the law.
Gypsies too have rights to resources as other groups do in society.
Why are some people so scared of people who have a different culture and lifestyle?
Gypsies are good natured people who d little harm to others.
BNP activists are no doubt spreading lies about this site.
Usual suspects at it in Padiham
all th comments on here are from councillers and folk who know nothing about gypsies...........i live on 3 sites,oswaldtwistle,
milton keynes and whinney hill and NO CHANCE wHould i want them near my house,3/4 of them are sound hard working people,the other 1/4 are absolute nightmares,they search back yards for scrap,there in and out all day and at all hours...stop the **** footing around..I KNOW HOW THEY LIVE!!!!stick them up stoneyholme theres more room!!!

RAyzer says...
7:17am Sat 27 Feb 10

i meant LIVED*in the 90s....get info off any one who lives near a site and theyl tell you its HELL,dont listen to this labour lot who rant on here,they havent a clue...when theres a Pitch up in any town CRIME RISES UPTO 50% and thats a FACT...and this counciller is PRETENDING to do all he can because he knows its near the elections,and labour will get trounced....look into what ive said,go to any houses near sites or were theyve been....

RAyzer says...
7:22am Sat 27 Feb 10

ive family in padiham too,and theres alot more than 50 signutures on the list,houses prices will tumble near the site,just got to the one stop shop theres at least 300 plus signutures.....labou
r activists in opperation on here,if it goes ahead you know next time IF you didnt vote for the BNP!!the ONLY party that DARE speak up for the MAJORITY...!!

truepadihamer says...
1:09pm Sat 27 Feb 10

RAyzer, It sounds like this is a BNP rant to me, are you a BNP Councillor in diguise?? As I said before 'the site is not big enough or suitable' for the purpose. There is plenty of land in Padiham that is but this is not. You are making comments on here about people (Pendle Street residents) you know nothing about and seeing as it is those people who it will directly affect then, they do know what they are talking about. Just a last comment for your information, Councillor Cant is actually the only Councillor who has took the time to speak to the residents so far to my knowledge!!

kimduccs says...
11:10pm Sat 27 Feb 10

Padiham_Teacher wrote:
I am a resident of Pendle Street and am in the (un)enviable position of being one of the four or five properties directly overlooking this proposed site. I, along with my immediate neighbours am not pleased that this could potentially happen but our response must be measured and restrained. What must not happen is what I fear has begun to happen whereby the main response to the planning application is 'We don't want gypsies or travellers in our town'. This cannot be the response and those of us who are actually going to be affected by the plans are being very careful to state our case properly. My appeal is this: if your involvement in the case is merely cries of 'We don't want the likes of you in our town!', please stay well clear of any planning meetings. Already, I've had BNP propaganda through my door about how this is yet another sign of our nation's demise at the hands of outsiders and ne'er do wells. Well no it isn’t, so don’t try and use it to your advantage! We, the immediate neighbours are not most worried about who intends to take up residency on the site, we are worried about the already horrific parking situation on the street (yes, I’m talking to the chippy customers who choose to abandon their cars anywhere on the street of an evening!), the already disgusting state of the street (is it possible that Pendle Street is never even visited by street cleaners?!) and above all we are worried about how on earth the fire service would access our homes if they have to battle past a permanent traveller camp on our back street (on top of the abandoned chippy customer cars!). As for people being disparaging about Cllr Cant, I can state categorically that so far he has been nothing but helpful and supportive. I don’t want this to turn into one of those awful L.E.T ranting message board wars about politics, race or religion; this is actually about hardworking taxpayers using their freedom of speech to defend what is theirs. Finally, to those of you who have been making abusive and angry calls to the Planning Office, please stop immediately! You are not helping our case! Plus, the people you are abusing are merely the people who receive and process the planning proposals. In other words, more innocent and hardworking taxpayers! The residents affected by this proposal sincerely appreciate your input on the matter but please work with us to ensure that it is dealt with in the best possible manner.
I work in the chippy on Pendle Street and I would agree with the teacher that we are objecting to the proposed plans on the grounds of access, size and suitability. We are working hard at finding alternative suggestions for the council that would not disturb any residential area, but that would fulfil the council's legal obligations in providing suitable land.
The petition, available in several local shops now contains over 500 signatures from local residents and is not intended to be racially motivated. It is our hope that the traditional community spirit can be used as an advantage for the area and built upon in the future.
As for the teacher's concern for parking by the chip shop customers, I would invite him to come and discuss these issues with me where we could try to find a solution that suits us all. The shop has been trading for over 100 years and we do everything we can to ensure that our neighbours are not affected by us. The litter mentioned is not caused by our customers, as my staff and I check the street every day and pick up any litter that is connected to take-away food (even when it is not ours).
Please support us by challenging the planning application for the right reasons and help us bring a little pride back to the town of Padiham.

RAyzer says...
8:31am Sun 28 Feb 10

truepadihamer wrote:
RAyzer, It sounds like this is a BNP rant to me, are you a BNP Councillor in diguise?? As I said before 'the site is not big enough or suitable' for the purpose. There is plenty of land in Padiham that is but this is not. You are making comments on here about people (Pendle Street residents) you know nothing about and seeing as it is those people who it will directly affect then, they do know what they are talking about. Just a last comment for your information, Councillor Cant is actually the only Councillor who has took the time to speak to the residents so far to my knowledge!!
its already be passed for the proposals you clown...read the facts!!!as for not knowing about pendle street,i know 2 landlords on there,and nobody in padiham wants this not just 30 people...counciller cants like kitty ussher....CHOCOLATE FIREGUARD!!!!typical of labour!!!true padihamer AKA labour boy!!!!all padiham know counciller cant by name by nature!!!!!

RAyzer says...
8:34am Sun 28 Feb 10

vote anyone but labour at election time...thats all i can say,theyve ruined burnley and this once great country..as for certain councillers THATS WHAT there paid for so dont get exited there actually doing something,there paid a small fortune to do there dutys!!!

RAyzer says...
10:21am Sun 28 Feb 10

YOU TUBE.COM look for that shahid malik and read and listen to his speech at labour conferance....ITS A REAL EYE OPENER!!!!!!PLEASE!!
!labour fan or not...its for YOUR future!!!

RAyzer says...
10:30am Sun 28 Feb 10

http://www.youtube.c
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truepadihamer says...
4:56pm Sun 28 Feb 10

RAyzer wrote:
truepadihamer wrote: RAyzer, It sounds like this is a BNP rant to me, are you a BNP Councillor in diguise?? As I said before 'the site is not big enough or suitable' for the purpose. There is plenty of land in Padiham that is but this is not. You are making comments on here about people (Pendle Street residents) you know nothing about and seeing as it is those people who it will directly affect then, they do know what they are talking about. Just a last comment for your information, Councillor Cant is actually the only Councillor who has took the time to speak to the residents so far to my knowledge!!
its already be passed for the proposals you clown...read the facts!!!as for not knowing about pendle street,i know 2 landlords on there,and nobody in padiham wants this not just 30 people...counciller cants like kitty ussher....CHOCOLATE FIREGUARD!!!!typical of labour!!!true padihamer AKA labour boy!!!!all padiham know counciller cant by name by nature!!!!!
RAyzer, So just as I thought, you don't live in the area, you know two landlords who rent out their houses so what??? 1. I am not a clown. 2. I didn't say that I agreed with the reasons behind Councillor Cants involvement. 3. Not a labour or boy.5. You need to learn to spell!!! there, their or there.

To the lady from the chip shop, 'Teacher' is not blaming you or your staff for the parking or the rubbish as he knows you do a lot to encourage your customers to park elsewhere and clear up the rubbish, that was a dig at some of the customers. He, like yourself is against this proposals for the correct reasons and not some of the more racist or bigotted views that are being spouted about on here by people is does not involve. Thanks for the support.

RAyzer says...
6:01pm Sun 28 Feb 10

truepadihamer wrote:
RAyzer wrote:
truepadihamer wrote: RAyzer, It sounds like this is a BNP rant to me, are you a BNP Councillor in diguise?? As I said before 'the site is not big enough or suitable' for the purpose. There is plenty of land in Padiham that is but this is not. You are making comments on here about people (Pendle Street residents) you know nothing about and seeing as it is those people who it will directly affect then, they do know what they are talking about. Just a last comment for your information, Councillor Cant is actually the only Councillor who has took the time to speak to the residents so far to my knowledge!!
its already be passed for the proposals you clown...read the facts!!!as for not knowing about pendle street,i know 2 landlords on there,and nobody in padiham wants this not just 30 people...counciller cants like kitty ussher....CHOCOLATE FIREGUARD!!!!typical of labour!!!true padihamer AKA labour boy!!!!all padiham know counciller cant by name by nature!!!!!
RAyzer, So just as I thought, you don't live in the area, you know two landlords who rent out their houses so what??? 1. I am not a clown. 2. I didn't say that I agreed with the reasons behind Councillor Cants involvement. 3. Not a labour or boy.5. You need to learn to spell!!! there, their or there.

To the lady from the chip shop, 'Teacher' is not blaming you or your staff for the parking or the rubbish as he knows you do a lot to encourage your customers to park elsewhere and clear up the rubbish, that was a dig at some of the customers. He, like yourself is against this proposals for the correct reasons and not some of the more racist or bigotted views that are being spouted about on here by people is does not involve. Thanks for the support.
in my job i dont need to spell anything but my name....doesnt stop me earning big cash...we all know your a counciller so stop pretending otherwise...as for the landlords im pointing out them and 500 others dont want these people in the area....id bet you dont even live in padiham!!!!nobody wants them here FOR WHAT EVER REASON!!!!

truepadihamer says...
11:03pm Sun 28 Feb 10

RAyzer wrote:
truepadihamer wrote:
RAyzer wrote:
truepadihamer wrote: RAyzer, It sounds like this is a BNP rant to me, are you a BNP Councillor in diguise?? As I said before 'the site is not big enough or suitable' for the purpose. There is plenty of land in Padiham that is but this is not. You are making comments on here about people (Pendle Street residents) you know nothing about and seeing as it is those people who it will directly affect then, they do know what they are talking about. Just a last comment for your information, Councillor Cant is actually the only Councillor who has took the time to speak to the residents so far to my knowledge!!
its already be passed for the proposals you clown...read the facts!!!as for not knowing about pendle street,i know 2 landlords on there,and nobody in padiham wants this not just 30 people...counciller cants like kitty ussher....CHOCOLATE FIREGUARD!!!!typical of labour!!!true padihamer AKA labour boy!!!!all padiham know counciller cant by name by nature!!!!!
RAyzer, So just as I thought, you don't live in the area, you know two landlords who rent out their houses so what??? 1. I am not a clown. 2. I didn't say that I agreed with the reasons behind Councillor Cants involvement. 3. Not a labour or boy.5. You need to learn to spell!!! there, their or there. To the lady from the chip shop, 'Teacher' is not blaming you or your staff for the parking or the rubbish as he knows you do a lot to encourage your customers to park elsewhere and clear up the rubbish, that was a dig at some of the customers. He, like yourself is against this proposals for the correct reasons and not some of the more racist or bigotted views that are being spouted about on here by people is does not involve. Thanks for the support.
in my job i dont need to spell anything but my name....doesnt stop me earning big cash...we all know your a counciller so stop pretending otherwise...as for the landlords im pointing out them and 500 others dont want these people in the area....id bet you dont even live in padiham!!!!nobody wants them here FOR WHAT EVER REASON!!!!
You know nothing about me RAyzer and you obviously don't understand a word of what's being written here because you are so far off the mark with your accusations it is laughable. I have lived in Padiham all my life (hence my name you clown!!) along with most of my family. You have no idea what you are talking about so why don't you do us all a favour and stay where you are and keep your biggotted opinions to yourself. I wonder what job you do where you only have to spell your name correctly to earn big cash?????? An honest days work if ever I heard one!!!

Padiham_Teacher says...
2:29pm Mon 1 Mar 10

Whilst I don't want to re-enter what has now become a typical waste of time L.E.T rant session, I felt that I should leave a message to clarify something written in my last post.
kimduccs, I apologise if my previous post appeared to have negative things to say about your business. That was not the intention in the least. My comment was directed to the few mindless people that abandon their cars anywhere. I am fully aware of the work that you and your colleagues do to keep everyone happy. I have seen your signs asking customers to park considerately and I have also seen you out picking up litter. As residents, we could ask any more of you! Your shop sets an excellent example to other local businesses. In fact it is because of the lead you have taken that the neighbourhood has pulled together the way it has, thank-you.
Finally, to those of you who doubt the motives of we, the residents of Pendle Street, perhaps a touch less cynicism would lead to a happier and more well rounded life for yourselves?!
Ask yourself this, if YOUR house was on fire and access was blocked would you really care whether the block was caused by gypsy caravan, Martian spaceship or David Beckham's Bentley? It wouldn't matter! The only thing we care about is ensuring the safety of our lives, homes and belongings.

NOT EVERYTHING IS ABOUT RACE!!!

It is a really sad state of affairs when narrow minded individuals use a situation such as ours to score cheap political points and twist the facts and figures to fit in with their own agenda. Gypsies and travellers have as much right to settle down as any of us; the simple fact is merely that this particular location is not the right one for them or the town as a whole. I’ll take this opportunity to throw into the melting pot the idea that perhaps they could be placed on The Fenny, by the river. Surely a much nicer and more picturesque location than being crammed in a tiny back alley off Pendle Street?

akon says...
3:25pm Mon 1 Mar 10

Padiham_Teacher, Padiham
Closet racist !!
The Frank Cant who is helping you, is the very man who voted FOR the muslim school in Burnley.
Vote Labour ...
YOU deserve each-other !!

truepadihamer says...
11:16pm Mon 1 Mar 10

AND!! Did you disagree or something? It has already been said on here, this is not a racist issue it only becomes one when people make it one and there are a couple of people on here who have done that. Are we not allowed to vote for or against what we want? One last thing that I would like to say is, if you do not know the people & it does not directly involve you, you do not live in the area then you should not make judgements? There are people making comments on here for the sake of it and trying to stir up trouble for their own pleasure, pity you have nothing more constructive to do with your time!!!!

akon says...
7:42am Tue 2 Mar 10

truepadihamer, PadihamPadiham_Teach
er
'THE CLOSET NAZIS'

Don't try to bullsh*t anyone you don't want the gypsies there because of who & what they are....
All of your reasons are just one big smokescreen !!
It's the classic "I'm not racist but"syndrome.
Like i have already said 'YOU vote Labour you get EVERYTHING you deserve '
Roll on the gypsy site !!

truepadihamer says...
10:22am Tue 2 Mar 10

I think you are talking about yourself here and are a little misguided. You have no idea who or what you are talking about. It sounds to me like you are in the 'CLOSET'!!!

akon says...
7:42am Wed 3 Mar 10

truepadihamer, Padiham
You have been sussed !!
Stop wriggling off the hook !!
Enjoy the rest of your life with your soon to be romany friends....
Maybe Mr.Cant will pop up for brew & a bag of chips haha

truepadihamer says...
1:26pm Wed 3 Mar 10

Sussed!!! for what. Mr Cant won't be popping in to my house as I don't live on Pendle Street but I was writing in defence of the people who do. Akon, what would you do in the same situation I wonder???? The reasons are not a smokescreen they are genuine concerns but you won't understand that as all your interested in is going against anything that anyone writes on here. I have observed your comments before!!!

akon says...
3:08pm Wed 3 Mar 10

truepadihamer, Padiham
Stop blagging & simply tell the truth why you don't want the gypsies .
You don't want them for the correct reasons?
While a load of crap !!
Not in my back yard eh?

truepadihamer says...
5:07pm Wed 3 Mar 10

As I said before, you are just ranting now for the sake of it, I have tried to explain my reasons and you are not interested in that, only in trying to prove I am something I am not, I'm sorry I have wasted too much of my time on you already, you are pathetic!!! What about in your back yard then???

akon says...
7:42am Thu 4 Mar 10

I would tell the truth why i wouldn't want it to happen ,not put up a smokescreen .
THAT is the only difference !!
LIAR.

RAyzer says...
4:30pm Thu 4 Mar 10

FRANK CANT VOTED FOR THE ISLAMIC GIRLS SCHOOL IN BURNLEY....so you know the script...he couldnt give 2 hoots about the MAJORITY!!!!


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