Jukebox falls silent as 'music police' raid Padiham pub (From Lancashire Telegraph)
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Jukebox falls silent as 'music police' raid Padiham pub
4:15pm Monday 30th April 2012 in Burnley
The Bridge Inn at Padiham
ANOTHER publican in East Lancashire has been ordered to turn off the jukebox after being raided by a music industry watchdog.
Background music could become a thing of the past at The Bridge Inn, in Burnley Road, Padiham, unless landlady Beverley McRae brings her licences up-to-date.
Inspectors from royalties collectors Phonographic Performance Ltd (PPL), called at the pub last October and heard tracks like Ace Of Spades by Motorhead, Radioactive by Kings Of Leon, and By The Way by the Red Hot Chili Peppers being played.
She faces a fine of up to £10,000 and a two-year imprisonment if she disobeys a High Court order, secured by the PPL.
She can also expect a legal bill for £1,686.
Pub and leisure trade bosses have been staging a rearguard action against the PPL licensing system, amid fears fees may rise, as a licensing consultation is ongoing.
The Association of Licensed Multiple Retailers, the Bar Entertainment and Dance Association, the British Beer and Pub Association and the British Hospitality Association have generated a £300,000 fighting fund for those affected.
Pub operators Intertain, which runs bars including Walkabout in Burnley, fear their licensing fees for special events, may rise by 4,000 per cent. Simon Kaye, the firm’s chief operating officer, said: “The company would not be able to support that level of payment.”
Mrs McRae, who also runs the Dugdale Arms, in Burnley, was unavailable for comment last night.
Colin Paton, the landlord of The Bay Horse in Worsthorne, which was hit by a similar fine last August, said that paying fees to download tracks, and then another performance charge on top, was ‘not right’.
Comments(19)
GAC
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4:53pm Mon 30 Apr 12
portolibero
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5:02pm Mon 30 Apr 12
GAC wrote:The PPL collect royalties for performers who are legally entitled to them.
the PPL are nothing to do with artists and just go around attacking anyone playing music in public. the sooner they are forced to stop the better.
They have every right to do what they do. Musicians have to be paid, just as publicans do.
happycyclist
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5:17pm Mon 30 Apr 12
Michael@ClitheroeSince58
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5:23pm Mon 30 Apr 12
jay1969
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5:59pm Mon 30 Apr 12
Republican
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6:50pm Mon 30 Apr 12
You want music; pay the license fees.
mavrick
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7:35pm Mon 30 Apr 12
If the PPL wish to demand money from the licenced trade then all they have to do is stop allowing music being played on the premises. most people would appreciate it anyway. Then when the ppl realise they have cooked the golden goose maybe they will be disbanded. They are no better than clampers.
GAC
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7:48pm Mon 30 Apr 12
portolibero wrote:from my experience with them they collect royalties (fine people) but generaly pay high priced lawyers off and none of the money actually makes it to anyone else.
GAC wrote:The PPL collect royalties for performers who are legally entitled to them.
the PPL are nothing to do with artists and just go around attacking anyone playing music in public. the sooner they are forced to stop the better.
They have every right to do what they do. Musicians have to be paid, just as publicans do.
they go around harrasing people like the story above to make more money, these guys are one step up from abulence chasers to be fair.
rggraham1947
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7:50pm Mon 30 Apr 12
mavrick wrote:Or bailiffs.
My problem with this is simple. How many time do artistes expect to be paid for the same work? If the PPL wish to demand money from the licenced trade then all they have to do is stop allowing music being played on the premises. most people would appreciate it anyway. Then when the ppl realise they have cooked the golden goose maybe they will be disbanded. They are no better than clampers.
Good call
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8:56pm Mon 30 Apr 12
rggraham1947 wrote:Or TV Licence "enforcement officers" (that title really makes me laugh)
mavrick wrote:Or bailiffs.
My problem with this is simple. How many time do artistes expect to be paid for the same work? If the PPL wish to demand money from the licenced trade then all they have to do is stop allowing music being played on the premises. most people would appreciate it anyway. Then when the ppl realise they have cooked the golden goose maybe they will be disbanded. They are no better than clampers.
gazzandste
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9:26pm Mon 30 Apr 12
portolibero wrote:Quit right even coach operators need a licence. Used to be called the PRS, performing rights society.
GAC wrote:The PPL collect royalties for performers who are legally entitled to them.
the PPL are nothing to do with artists and just go around attacking anyone playing music in public. the sooner they are forced to stop the better.
They have every right to do what they do. Musicians have to be paid, just as publicans do.
New World Order.
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10:28pm Mon 30 Apr 12
Great Britain what a joke.
The whole world as turned into a feature length episode of the twilight zone.
Or is that breaching copy rights having such thoughts..?
Good call
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10:50pm Mon 30 Apr 12
New World Order. wrote:Thought crime!!! Your post has been logged by GCHQ and a team of Armed Police have been dispatched to detain you indefinitely under section 19.84 of the Thought Crimes act.
So if Kings of Leon turn up to perform Radioactive for free the Landlady is facing a fine of up to £10,000 and a two-year imprisonment.
Great Britain what a joke.
The whole world as turned into a feature length episode of the twilight zone.
Or is that breaching copy rights having such thoughts..?
Good Call,Customer Serivices, UK government
hunter3062
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11:09pm Mon 30 Apr 12
Judge Nic Sanders
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11:23pm Mon 30 Apr 12
darwenTower
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11:50am Tue 1 May 12
gazzandste wrote:The PPL operate *as well* as the PRS.
portolibero wrote:Quit right even coach operators need a licence. Used to be called the PRS, performing rights society.
GAC wrote:The PPL collect royalties for performers who are legally entitled to them.
the PPL are nothing to do with artists and just go around attacking anyone playing music in public. the sooner they are forced to stop the better.
They have every right to do what they do. Musicians have to be paid, just as publicans do.
Unbelievably there are TWO organisations trying to collect £100s from small businesses for having a radio tinkling away in the background.
And for those who are crying that material needs to be paid for, it HAS been paid for, by the stations that are playing it and it will be paid for again when someone who hears it on the radio goes out and buys it.
The PPL/PRS will trot out the argument that not all artists are rich and they need all the royalties they can get but i'd love to know how much they pay to these lesser known artists. If it's pro rata based on airplay then it's plain to see where the money will be going (that's if the PPL/PRS don't swallow most of it up in operational costs).
Plus these lesser known artist need their material to be heard by as many people as possible.
They won't be heard in my shop because I don't have a radio playing any more.
These organisations are doing nothing to help the industry, they are merely parasites.
the tackler
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6:38pm Wed 2 May 12
nelsonborn&bred
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7:57am Tue 8 May 12
ghost of sceptic says...
4:50pm Mon 30 Apr 12