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11:00am Saturday 11th February 2012 in Burnley
By Chris Gee, Reporter
POLICE are set to crush motorbikes which have been seized following a Burnley crackdown.
Eight bikes, which vary from a 600cc scrambling model to a two foot high mini-moto, are to be destroyed after complaints in the Stoops estate area.
Complaints of noise, disorder and damage became so common that the issue was named as the number one priority for the area in community meetings between police and residents.
One of the bikes was seized after officers found a 17-year-old boy riding it on a field at the back of Barclay Avenue.
PC Michelle Horne said: “Anti-social use of mini motos has been impacting heavily on the quality of life for many residents, particularly in the Stoops and Barclay Hills areas.
“Not only do they cause a nuisance to members of the community, but they can also be extremely dangerous to other road users and pedestrians.
“The users, are normally young men between 15 and 20 and they don’t seem to wear helmets or other safety gear.
“Anyone who rides a motorbike on a public road requires both insurance and an appropriate driving licence.”
PC Dave Pascoe said: “If you look at the land between the Harold Avenue and Griffin estate, there’s mud splattered on the walls of newly-refurbished houses from the bikes.
“There’s been huge investment in housing and communal areas and to have it churned up and full of ruts is not on.
“We will be holding similar initiatives in the future and I urge anyone with concerns about mini motos or anti social behaviour to contact police.”
Comments(23)
Dusty Snatchmonger
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11:38am Sat 11 Feb 12
happycyclist
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11:49am Sat 11 Feb 12
johnmcglinchey wrote:I agree with full-sized bikes being sold, but the mini-scrotos should be crushed because the only people who are going to buy them are other scrotes who will just make someone else's life a misery.
It'snot the motorbikes fault they're driven by idiots. Why don't the Police sell the bikes instead and give the money to charity?
prince of darkness
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11:53am Sat 11 Feb 12
johnmcglinchey wrote:This would only add to the problem if resold.
It'snot the motorbikes fault they're driven by idiots. Why don't the Police sell the bikes instead and give the money to charity?
gutterpress
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12:44pm Sat 11 Feb 12
Interocitor
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12:50pm Sat 11 Feb 12
Redbike
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12:57pm Sat 11 Feb 12
johnmcglinchey wrote:Or give them back to their rightful owners
It'snot the motorbikes fault they're driven by idiots. Why don't the Police sell the bikes instead and give the money to charity?
Dusty Snatchmonger
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1:17pm Sat 11 Feb 12
gutterpress wrote:Yes but they will just go and steal another bike
There's a crackdown everyday ! Shame it does nothing positive to society It must be positive if it means that people are not kept awake all hours of the night by these morons riding bikes.
BuckoTheMoose
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2:30pm Sat 11 Feb 12
Redbike wrote:Agreed. If an offence has been comitted then prosecute. The police should not have a mandate to steal and destroy private property
johnmcglinchey wrote:Or give them back to their rightful owners
It'snot the motorbikes fault they're driven by idiots. Why don't the Police sell the bikes instead and give the money to charity?
Cha'mone MF
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4:27pm Sat 11 Feb 12
BuckoTheMoose wrote:They aren't "stealing" property, section 59 of the Police reform act and section 165 of the road traffic act Gives them powers to seize and under certain circumstances destroy any vehicle being driven/ridden by uninsured persons or persons driving otherwise in accordance with a driving licence or if it is being driven / ridden in such a way that it is likely to cause annoyance to others.
Redbike wrote:Agreed. If an offence has been comitted then prosecute. The police should not have a mandate to steal and destroy private property
johnmcglinchey wrote:Or give them back to their rightful owners
It'snot the motorbikes fault they're driven by idiots. Why don't the Police sell the bikes instead and give the money to charity?
everywhere is sh1t
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7:37pm Sat 11 Feb 12
BuckoTheMoose wrote:do you live any where near these little a holes that screem up and down on fields,main roads near kids etc the law is simple no licence,no mot ,no tax,no insurance no bike simples if i drove my car without the proper paperwork then i would expect to lose it
Redbike wrote:Agreed. If an offence has been comitted then prosecute. The police should not have a mandate to steal and destroy private property
johnmcglinchey wrote:Or give them back to their rightful owners
It'snot the motorbikes fault they're driven by idiots. Why don't the Police sell the bikes instead and give the money to charity?
living the end times in BB1
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7:48pm Sat 11 Feb 12
everywhere is sh1t wrote:if i drove my car without the proper paperwork then i would expect to lose it”. Yeh your right its much safer using the teering wheel.
BuckoTheMoose wrote:do you live any where near these little a holes that screem up and down on fields,main roads near kids etc the law is simple no licence,no mot ,no tax,no insurance no bike simples if i drove my car without the proper paperwork then i would expect to lose itRedbike wrote:Agreed. If an offence has been comitted then prosecute. The police should not have a mandate to steal and destroy private propertyjohnmcglinchey wrote: It'snot the motorbikes fault they're driven by idiots. Why don't the Police sell the bikes instead and give the money to charity?Or give them back to their rightful owners
Lancs - pensioner
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12:54pm Sun 12 Feb 12
BuckoTheMoose wrote:So "Bucko" prosecuting minors is nigh impossible, it’s about time the police got tough on scrotes like this, let’s look at what these law abiding citizens where up to, continually using these bikes time after time, not using crash helmets, having no insurance, causing upset to ordinary people and you think the police should not destroy these bikes after their owners!! have been warned several times, you will be quoting “Human Rights” next, get a life man.
Redbike wrote:Agreed. If an offence has been comitted then prosecute. The police should not have a mandate to steal and destroy private propertyjohnmcglinchey wrote: It'snot the motorbikes fault they're driven by idiots. Why don't the Police sell the bikes instead and give the money to charity?Or give them back to their rightful owners
Your ferret stinks
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12:56pm Sun 12 Feb 12
BuckoTheMoose
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2:16pm Sun 12 Feb 12
Cuttingsky
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7:36pm Sun 12 Feb 12
Cha'mone MF
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9:05pm Sun 12 Feb 12
BuckoTheMoose wrote:Are you just pretending or are you genuinely thicker than Whale Sh1t ?
"They aren't "stealing" property, section 59 of the Police reform act and section 165 of the road traffic act Gives them powers to seize and under certain circumstances destroy any vehicle being driven/ridden by uninsured persons or persons driving otherwise in accordance with a driving licence or if it is being driven / ridden in such a way that it is likely to cause annoyance to others."
They have given themselves powers but it's still nothing more than theft.
"If you or your car was hit by one of these idiots you'd be the first to whinge and moan that the cops aren't doing anything about them."
I would insist the damage is made good, just like I would if a car hit mine. I would not be demanding punitive police powers to steal property
"do you live any where near these little a holes that screem up and down on fields,main roads near kids etc the law is simple no licence,no mot ,no tax,no insurance no bike simples if i drove my car without the proper paperwork then i would expect to lose it"
Yes I live near scrotes. Anti social behaviour has laws to deal with it through effective policing, which is what we need more of. If you would expect to loose your car because of a bit of paper then you have been totally brainwashed by the state.
"not using crash helmets," Ahh didums. What a serious crime.
BuckoTheMoose
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7:41am Mon 13 Feb 12
Cha'mone MF wrote:I don't really want to get into a debate with someone so insulting so I'll keep it brief.
BuckoTheMoose wrote:Are you just pretending or are you genuinely thicker than Whale Sh1t ?
"They aren't "stealing" property, section 59 of the Police reform act and section 165 of the road traffic act Gives them powers to seize and under certain circumstances destroy any vehicle being driven/ridden by uninsured persons or persons driving otherwise in accordance with a driving licence or if it is being driven / ridden in such a way that it is likely to cause annoyance to others."
They have given themselves powers but it's still nothing more than theft.
"If you or your car was hit by one of these idiots you'd be the first to whinge and moan that the cops aren't doing anything about them."
I would insist the damage is made good, just like I would if a car hit mine. I would not be demanding punitive police powers to steal property
"do you live any where near these little a holes that screem up and down on fields,main roads near kids etc the law is simple no licence,no mot ,no tax,no insurance no bike simples if i drove my car without the proper paperwork then i would expect to lose it"
Yes I live near scrotes. Anti social behaviour has laws to deal with it through effective policing, which is what we need more of. If you would expect to loose your car because of a bit of paper then you have been totally brainwashed by the state.
"not using crash helmets," Ahh didums. What a serious crime.
Police giving themselves powers? Tell me just one instance of when that has ever happened?
You have clearly been a naughty boy in the past and have some form of axe to grind.
I sincerely hope that the next time you are out walking an off road bike being ridden by mungo with no licence or insurance ploughs into you and breaks your leg (I would of course wish you a speedy recovery). I would love to know your opinion on this subject then. Especially if the Police turned up and seized it off the rider. Would you be so scathing then?
The point is that these people who ride in such a manor are a danger to road users and pedestrians. These powers exist to prevent them from causing injury. If you cannot see this and think that the Police response is in some way disproportionate then there is very much something wrong with you.
Cha'mone MF
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8:52am Mon 13 Feb 12
BuckoTheMoose wrote:Well you have straight away contradicted yourself. The Police often lobby for and are GIVEN extra powers. They don't make them up as you have previously claimed, there is a system in place where such changes to legislation are sanctioned by a due process.
Cha'mone MF wrote:I don't really want to get into a debate with someone so insulting so I'll keep it brief.
BuckoTheMoose wrote:Are you just pretending or are you genuinely thicker than Whale Sh1t ?
"They aren't "stealing" property, section 59 of the Police reform act and section 165 of the road traffic act Gives them powers to seize and under certain circumstances destroy any vehicle being driven/ridden by uninsured persons or persons driving otherwise in accordance with a driving licence or if it is being driven / ridden in such a way that it is likely to cause annoyance to others."
They have given themselves powers but it's still nothing more than theft.
"If you or your car was hit by one of these idiots you'd be the first to whinge and moan that the cops aren't doing anything about them."
I would insist the damage is made good, just like I would if a car hit mine. I would not be demanding punitive police powers to steal property
"do you live any where near these little a holes that screem up and down on fields,main roads near kids etc the law is simple no licence,no mot ,no tax,no insurance no bike simples if i drove my car without the proper paperwork then i would expect to lose it"
Yes I live near scrotes. Anti social behaviour has laws to deal with it through effective policing, which is what we need more of. If you would expect to loose your car because of a bit of paper then you have been totally brainwashed by the state.
"not using crash helmets," Ahh didums. What a serious crime.
Police giving themselves powers? Tell me just one instance of when that has ever happened?
You have clearly been a naughty boy in the past and have some form of axe to grind.
I sincerely hope that the next time you are out walking an off road bike being ridden by mungo with no licence or insurance ploughs into you and breaks your leg (I would of course wish you a speedy recovery). I would love to know your opinion on this subject then. Especially if the Police turned up and seized it off the rider. Would you be so scathing then?
The point is that these people who ride in such a manor are a danger to road users and pedestrians. These powers exist to prevent them from causing injury. If you cannot see this and think that the Police response is in some way disproportionate then there is very much something wrong with you.
Police lobby for, and are often given, extra powers that make their job easier at the expense of some liberty. It's called lazy policing.
Can you provide one incident of a biker breaking someones leg while out walking? It doesn't happen does it. Even so, I wouldn't change my opinion just because I had become personally involved. Same with the "what if it was your kid / mum / sister" etc arguement that always gets trotted out.
The police already have powers to prevent them causing injury but they prefer to take the lazy option.
And by the way, I have not clearly been a naughty boy in the past. I have no criminal record. Just because I speak out when I see an injustice, doesn't make me a criminal unless you live in a brainwashed world where the state can do no wrong.
Izanears
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11:07am Mon 13 Feb 12
BuckoTheMoose
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12:46pm Mon 13 Feb 12
Cha'mone MF wrote:There's no contradiction there if you read it properly and apply a little understanding.
BuckoTheMoose wrote:Well you have straight away contradicted yourself. The Police often lobby for and are GIVEN extra powers. They don't make them up as you have previously claimed, there is a system in place where such changes to legislation are sanctioned by a due process.
Cha'mone MF wrote:I don't really want to get into a debate with someone so insulting so I'll keep it brief.
BuckoTheMoose wrote:Are you just pretending or are you genuinely thicker than Whale Sh1t ?
"They aren't "stealing" property, section 59 of the Police reform act and section 165 of the road traffic act Gives them powers to seize and under certain circumstances destroy any vehicle being driven/ridden by uninsured persons or persons driving otherwise in accordance with a driving licence or if it is being driven / ridden in such a way that it is likely to cause annoyance to others."
They have given themselves powers but it's still nothing more than theft.
"If you or your car was hit by one of these idiots you'd be the first to whinge and moan that the cops aren't doing anything about them."
I would insist the damage is made good, just like I would if a car hit mine. I would not be demanding punitive police powers to steal property
"do you live any where near these little a holes that screem up and down on fields,main roads near kids etc the law is simple no licence,no mot ,no tax,no insurance no bike simples if i drove my car without the proper paperwork then i would expect to lose it"
Yes I live near scrotes. Anti social behaviour has laws to deal with it through effective policing, which is what we need more of. If you would expect to loose your car because of a bit of paper then you have been totally brainwashed by the state.
"not using crash helmets," Ahh didums. What a serious crime.
Police giving themselves powers? Tell me just one instance of when that has ever happened?
You have clearly been a naughty boy in the past and have some form of axe to grind.
I sincerely hope that the next time you are out walking an off road bike being ridden by mungo with no licence or insurance ploughs into you and breaks your leg (I would of course wish you a speedy recovery). I would love to know your opinion on this subject then. Especially if the Police turned up and seized it off the rider. Would you be so scathing then?
The point is that these people who ride in such a manor are a danger to road users and pedestrians. These powers exist to prevent them from causing injury. If you cannot see this and think that the Police response is in some way disproportionate then there is very much something wrong with you.
Police lobby for, and are often given, extra powers that make their job easier at the expense of some liberty. It's called lazy policing.
Can you provide one incident of a biker breaking someones leg while out walking? It doesn't happen does it. Even so, I wouldn't change my opinion just because I had become personally involved. Same with the "what if it was your kid / mum / sister" etc arguement that always gets trotted out.
The police already have powers to prevent them causing injury but they prefer to take the lazy option.
And by the way, I have not clearly been a naughty boy in the past. I have no criminal record. Just because I speak out when I see an injustice, doesn't make me a criminal unless you live in a brainwashed world where the state can do no wrong.
As I have said so many times recently to others who moan about the Police and the authorities, if it displeases you so much in this country go and live in North Korea or Syria and see what things are like over there.
Cha'mone MF
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4:17pm Mon 13 Feb 12
BuckoTheMoose wrote:You seem to be the only one on here that has a problem with the Police seizing problem vehicles. That speaks for itself really.
Cha'mone MF wrote:There's no contradiction there if you read it properly and apply a little understanding.
BuckoTheMoose wrote:Well you have straight away contradicted yourself. The Police often lobby for and are GIVEN extra powers. They don't make them up as you have previously claimed, there is a system in place where such changes to legislation are sanctioned by a due process.
Cha'mone MF wrote:I don't really want to get into a debate with someone so insulting so I'll keep it brief.
BuckoTheMoose wrote:Are you just pretending or are you genuinely thicker than Whale Sh1t ?
"They aren't "stealing" property, section 59 of the Police reform act and section 165 of the road traffic act Gives them powers to seize and under certain circumstances destroy any vehicle being driven/ridden by uninsured persons or persons driving otherwise in accordance with a driving licence or if it is being driven / ridden in such a way that it is likely to cause annoyance to others."
They have given themselves powers but it's still nothing more than theft.
"If you or your car was hit by one of these idiots you'd be the first to whinge and moan that the cops aren't doing anything about them."
I would insist the damage is made good, just like I would if a car hit mine. I would not be demanding punitive police powers to steal property
"do you live any where near these little a holes that screem up and down on fields,main roads near kids etc the law is simple no licence,no mot ,no tax,no insurance no bike simples if i drove my car without the proper paperwork then i would expect to lose it"
Yes I live near scrotes. Anti social behaviour has laws to deal with it through effective policing, which is what we need more of. If you would expect to loose your car because of a bit of paper then you have been totally brainwashed by the state.
"not using crash helmets," Ahh didums. What a serious crime.
Police giving themselves powers? Tell me just one instance of when that has ever happened?
You have clearly been a naughty boy in the past and have some form of axe to grind.
I sincerely hope that the next time you are out walking an off road bike being ridden by mungo with no licence or insurance ploughs into you and breaks your leg (I would of course wish you a speedy recovery). I would love to know your opinion on this subject then. Especially if the Police turned up and seized it off the rider. Would you be so scathing then?
The point is that these people who ride in such a manor are a danger to road users and pedestrians. These powers exist to prevent them from causing injury. If you cannot see this and think that the Police response is in some way disproportionate then there is very much something wrong with you.
Police lobby for, and are often given, extra powers that make their job easier at the expense of some liberty. It's called lazy policing.
Can you provide one incident of a biker breaking someones leg while out walking? It doesn't happen does it. Even so, I wouldn't change my opinion just because I had become personally involved. Same with the "what if it was your kid / mum / sister" etc arguement that always gets trotted out.
The police already have powers to prevent them causing injury but they prefer to take the lazy option.
And by the way, I have not clearly been a naughty boy in the past. I have no criminal record. Just because I speak out when I see an injustice, doesn't make me a criminal unless you live in a brainwashed world where the state can do no wrong.
As I have said so many times recently to others who moan about the Police and the authorities, if it displeases you so much in this country go and live in North Korea or Syria and see what things are like over there.
Why North Korea or Syria? Are you seriously saying that we should be thankful, simply because we have it better than those hideous countries?
Why not Switzerland or Greece? Are you only able to pick seriously oppressive countries as a comparison to make your case? It can't be a very strong one then, can it.
BuckoTheMoose
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6:25pm Mon 13 Feb 12
Cha'mone MF wrote:Yes, it says that i'm in a minority. Us Libertarians usually are. It doesn't necesarily say I am wrong.
BuckoTheMoose wrote:You seem to be the only one on here that has a problem with the Police seizing problem vehicles. That speaks for itself really.
Cha'mone MF wrote:There's no contradiction there if you read it properly and apply a little understanding.
BuckoTheMoose wrote:Well you have straight away contradicted yourself. The Police often lobby for and are GIVEN extra powers. They don't make them up as you have previously claimed, there is a system in place where such changes to legislation are sanctioned by a due process.
Cha'mone MF wrote:I don't really want to get into a debate with someone so insulting so I'll keep it brief.
BuckoTheMoose wrote:Are you just pretending or are you genuinely thicker than Whale Sh1t ?
"They aren't "stealing" property, section 59 of the Police reform act and section 165 of the road traffic act Gives them powers to seize and under certain circumstances destroy any vehicle being driven/ridden by uninsured persons or persons driving otherwise in accordance with a driving licence or if it is being driven / ridden in such a way that it is likely to cause annoyance to others."
They have given themselves powers but it's still nothing more than theft.
"If you or your car was hit by one of these idiots you'd be the first to whinge and moan that the cops aren't doing anything about them."
I would insist the damage is made good, just like I would if a car hit mine. I would not be demanding punitive police powers to steal property
"do you live any where near these little a holes that screem up and down on fields,main roads near kids etc the law is simple no licence,no mot ,no tax,no insurance no bike simples if i drove my car without the proper paperwork then i would expect to lose it"
Yes I live near scrotes. Anti social behaviour has laws to deal with it through effective policing, which is what we need more of. If you would expect to loose your car because of a bit of paper then you have been totally brainwashed by the state.
"not using crash helmets," Ahh didums. What a serious crime.
Police giving themselves powers? Tell me just one instance of when that has ever happened?
You have clearly been a naughty boy in the past and have some form of axe to grind.
I sincerely hope that the next time you are out walking an off road bike being ridden by mungo with no licence or insurance ploughs into you and breaks your leg (I would of course wish you a speedy recovery). I would love to know your opinion on this subject then. Especially if the Police turned up and seized it off the rider. Would you be so scathing then?
The point is that these people who ride in such a manor are a danger to road users and pedestrians. These powers exist to prevent them from causing injury. If you cannot see this and think that the Police response is in some way disproportionate then there is very much something wrong with you.
Police lobby for, and are often given, extra powers that make their job easier at the expense of some liberty. It's called lazy policing.
Can you provide one incident of a biker breaking someones leg while out walking? It doesn't happen does it. Even so, I wouldn't change my opinion just because I had become personally involved. Same with the "what if it was your kid / mum / sister" etc arguement that always gets trotted out.
The police already have powers to prevent them causing injury but they prefer to take the lazy option.
And by the way, I have not clearly been a naughty boy in the past. I have no criminal record. Just because I speak out when I see an injustice, doesn't make me a criminal unless you live in a brainwashed world where the state can do no wrong.
As I have said so many times recently to others who moan about the Police and the authorities, if it displeases you so much in this country go and live in North Korea or Syria and see what things are like over there.
Why North Korea or Syria? Are you seriously saying that we should be thankful, simply because we have it better than those hideous countries?
Why not Switzerland or Greece? Are you only able to pick seriously oppressive countries as a comparison to make your case? It can't be a very strong one then, can it.
The likelihood is that you've probably just received three penalty points on your licence for speeding and you want to blame others apart from yourself.
I'll look forward to reading your "reasoned" comments on other stories on here.
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johnmcglinchey says...
11:20am Sat 11 Feb 12