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Bid to speed up broadband connections in East Lancashire


ALL parts of East Lancashire will be linked up with high-speed broadband under proposals drawn up by regeneration leaders.

They want to use public cash to lay down state-of-the-art fibre optic cables so even the most rural parts of the area can enjoy quick internet access.

Bosses at Regenerate Pennine Lancashire (RPL), the publcly-funded body set up to spearhead regeneration in the area, also believe a fast broadband network is vital to ensure East Lancashire’s economy can compete with large urban areas and lure new businesses.

RPL members are currently putting the finishing touches to a business plan that will propose how millions of pounds of money should be spent.

As well as detailing major housing renewal and business park schemes, the document will put forward plans to improve East Lancashire’s broadband network.

Steve Hoyle, RPL’s commercial director, said: “In some areas of Pennine Lancashire there is a surplus of broadband but other areas, particularly the rural parts, are poorly served.

“So we are looking at mapping the area and then using the public sector’s buying power to provide the missing network.

“This is important because if broadband is left to internet providers, they concentrate on large urban areas like Liverpool and Manchester and then get round to places like Pennine Lancashire later.”

Mr Hoyle said bosses hoped to have completed a ‘map’ of current broadband provision by the end of the summer.

Britain’s broadband future has sparked debate nationwide with arguments over whether the public sector should step in to ensure rural areas are not neglected by providers.

Mr Hoyle insisted high-quality broadband was 'essential' for huge new business parks planned for Whitebirk in Blackburn and Burnley Bridge, close to junction eight of the M65.

Some Ribble Valley villages and areas of Pendle are believed to have the slowest internet connection speeds in the area.

Ribble Valley Council leader Michael Ranson, who sits on the RPL board, added: “Public sector money has got to be spent on improving broadband in Pennine Lancashire.

“It would improve the isolation of rural communities.”

RPL was last year handed up to £200million of public money to improve prosperity in East Lancashire.

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Comments(27)

pip-pip says...
12:03pm Fri 12 Mar 10

Worthy objective, but how would that work? Public money to put cables in the ground and lease back to the ISP's? sort of a reverse Public Finance Initiative?

pip-pip says...
12:09pm Fri 12 Mar 10

Oh, yes. Zooming along here on Virgin fibre optic cables at a genuine 20Mb. Not 'up to' 2Mb with other telecomms companies struggling over old post office copper cables.
And Brown wants to tax my phone bill to pay for all this old kit to be updated.!
Disgraceful!!

wackyracer says...
12:19pm Fri 12 Mar 10

what a great use of money. We can now use the internet to find out what illness we have from the symptoms we put in google. or we could use that money for more worthwhile projects like the NHS or creating jobs. The internet is a luxury and this money could be better spent

CliveE says...
1:00pm Fri 12 Mar 10

Meanwhile,all the houses in Branch Road, Burnley that have been boarded up for years will just be ignored.These regeneration people are great at having ideas but not so good at seeing them done.

DaveBurnley says...
1:34pm Fri 12 Mar 10

Just another gimmick. Isn't it fun to spend other people's money on something most of them don't want.

pull some strings says...
1:49pm Fri 12 Mar 10

A lot of 'fossils' commenting today.

You've got to speculate to accumulate!

Anyway it's better than tipping the money down the toliet which is what Bottler Brown has done over the last 13 years.

Akki says...
2:06pm Fri 12 Mar 10

Why do people in the rural need fibre optic broadband, that should be for the urban areas where it is easier and cheaper to layout.

Next there will be farming in the city centre's in the name of equality.

Come the Revolution says...
2:30pm Fri 12 Mar 10

W.T.F. is this Quango doing with £200m of taxpayers money!.

Mikeee47 says...
2:33pm Fri 12 Mar 10

If virgin want the customers, they should outlay the ground work at their expence. god knows they make enough profit on the services they provide. what about the people who already have this service or better? I'm fed up of my tax money being squandered on hair brained schemes, the country is broken, and on it knees, a broken health service etc etc. put the money where it's needed
No doubt there will be some brown envelope back handers going on,

happycyclist says...
2:55pm Fri 12 Mar 10

So how do you attract new businesses to the area without high-speed broadband?
The internet is one of the most important tools of modern business.

And serving rural areas also benefits home-workers, who often people on higher incomes than most, meaning less congestion on the roads, etc.

It's money well spent.

The offspring says...
3:47pm Fri 12 Mar 10

Welcome to modern Britain,did you not know the needs of the minority come first?

Mikeee47 says...
4:19pm Fri 12 Mar 10

The govt' would raise more revenue by Taxing cyclist using the roads, enough money has been spent on cycle lanes for them, use that money for Happycyclists broadband.
While we're at make it compusary for them to have insurance too
SIMPLES

dingle-berry says...
4:32pm Fri 12 Mar 10

A lot of ancient relicks commenting today, and a lot of people that hate change. The fact is this is the future n the best way to spend the money!!

MONEY WELL SPENT!!!!

happycyclist says...
5:19pm Fri 12 Mar 10

Mikeee47 wrote:
The govt' would raise more revenue by Taxing cyclist using the roads, enough money has been spent on cycle lanes for them, use that money for Happycyclists broadband.
While we're at make it compusary for them to have insurance too
SIMPLES
Course they would... in the same way they're going raise billions making dog owners get insurance. Don't be such an idiot.

Many cyclists also have cars and so pay road tax anyway, and the proper cyclists you see, or the 'lycra louts' are usually in a club and have insurance.

The Government would raise a lot more cash getting to grips with all the motorists charging around without tax, insurance or licences -none of which are a legal requirement for cyclists.

CapitaBackHander says...
5:21pm Fri 12 Mar 10

pip-pip wrote:
Oh, yes. Zooming along here on Virgin fibre optic cables at a genuine 20Mb. Not 'up to' 2Mb with other telecomms companies struggling over old post office copper cables. And Brown wants to tax my phone bill to pay for all this old kit to be updated.! Disgraceful!!
Sorry but that is nonsense FIRST OFF fibre Optic makes no diff as you connect via COPPER! You don't get 20mb all the time with Virgin - you are capped and monitored.
I have 24meg adsl with BeThere which is not capped! but then I think the exchange is very near re 24mb.

Lancs - pensioner says...
5:29pm Fri 12 Mar 10

Come the Revolution wrote:
W.T.F. is this Quango doing with £200m of taxpayers money!.
Looks like he is going to spend it!!

Burnley student says...
5:36pm Fri 12 Mar 10

A change that we definitely need!

Japan enjoys speeds of at least 100mb, we get excited over 20!

The possibility's this could offer, working in real time on 3D engineering projects for example, 2 users separated by thousands of miles could work on designs or the latest films in real time.
Mix high speed internet and high level engineering and welcome to the future!

As much of a cliché as it may be I think connecting the world is defiantly the future.

Lifeinthemix says...
7:11pm Fri 12 Mar 10

What I find is that since my switchover to the 20 meg, I have problems.
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We are looking into the real reason for this supposed 'freeby', freebies don't exist within the corporate world, so they must be getting one hell of a kick back from this faster broadband for all.....
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Internet2 comes to mind here, which is completely controlled by each regions Local Resilience Forums and affiliates.
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The Local Resilience Forums are the front by which the police dictate policy to our body politic. That means no longer do we live in a democracy, because our elected representatives with our power of attorney, do what MI5 Intelligence say.
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We now exist under 'Contingency', which is code for full complete fascist control of our entire body politic, civil service, Police, Army, Navy, Air Force, which by the way are not here protecting our civil law, they are growing popy in Afghanistan which now accounts for 90% of all heroin in the western world.
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We are suffering the same weapon as the same elites thrust upon China during the Opium Wars, and there are a lot of angry Triads and Indian's fooled into believing that by doing the same as was done to them...to us....is a good idea.
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This is the depth of mindset we are dealing with, we also have many tied in because they make money.
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Is it not then the case that the British people are destroying theirselves?
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DaveBurnley says...
7:20pm Fri 12 Mar 10

dingle-berry wrote:
A lot of ancient relicks commenting today, and a lot of people that hate change. The fact is this is the future n the best way to spend the money!!

MONEY WELL SPENT!!!!
What a pity you haven't a clue what you're talking about.
These government funded bodies have no idea about needs or what they are doing. They are simply playing at being businessmen, unfortunately they are using our money.

It's much better to leave investment in broadband to people like BT and Virgin. They at least are businesses and can work out what to invest in.

pip-pip says...
7:27pm Fri 12 Mar 10

CapitaBackHander wrote:
pip-pip wrote:
Oh, yes. Zooming along here on Virgin fibre optic cables at a genuine 20Mb. Not 'up to' 2Mb with other telecomms companies struggling over old post office copper cables. And Brown wants to tax my phone bill to pay for all this old kit to be updated.! Disgraceful!!
Sorry but that is nonsense FIRST OFF fibre Optic makes no diff as you connect via COPPER! You don't get 20mb all the time with Virgin - you are capped and monitored.
I have 24meg adsl with BeThere which is not capped! but then I think the exchange is very near re 24mb.
Exactly! If you are an ADSL user the only way to get anywhere near a fast connection is to live next door to the phone exchange. This is why rural communities have difficulties. By definition they are rather a long way from an exchange.
Its fibre optic to the box at the corner of our street - the equivilant of living next door to the exchange. As I'm paying a premium price I keep an eye on what I'm getting for my money - and it's consistantly 18 to 20Mb except at the very busiest time of day when it may fall back to 15Mb for an hour or so.

Akki says...
7:29pm Fri 12 Mar 10

Burnley student wrote:
A change that we definitely need! Japan enjoys speeds of at least 100mb, we get excited over 20! The possibility's this could offer, working in real time on 3D engineering projects for example, 2 users separated by thousands of miles could work on designs or the latest films in real time. Mix high speed internet and high level engineering and welcome to the future! As much of a cliché as it may be I think connecting the world is defiantly the future.
Now dont be silly, you dont see Japan wasting Billions launching needless wars in afghan/iraq, so japan can clearly afford it, we cant!
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Live within your means. We all get the internet, there is no need for faster broadband on credit.

Mikeee47 says...
11:16am Sat 13 Mar 10

happycyclist wrote:
Mikeee47 wrote: The govt' would raise more revenue by Taxing cyclist using the roads, enough money has been spent on cycle lanes for them, use that money for Happycyclists broadband. While we're at make it compusary for them to have insurance too SIMPLES
Course they would... in the same way they're going raise billions making dog owners get insurance. Don't be such an idiot. Many cyclists also have cars and so pay road tax anyway, and the proper cyclists you see, or the 'lycra louts' are usually in a club and have insurance. The Government would raise a lot more cash getting to grips with all the motorists charging around without tax, insurance or licences -none of which are a legal requirement for cyclists.
ooooooh did I touch a nerve?
So basically your saying because I have car insurance I should be able to ride my motorcycle for free??
Why have you brought dogs into the equasion, I don't own a dog,
In the 1st instance I wasn't diagreeing with the concept. just the fact, BT or virgin can invest, instead of us THE TAX PAYER having yo coff up, unless your happy to see your money WASTED

lwg76 says...
2:12pm Sat 13 Mar 10

Duh! Wot's mobile broadband for.

The problem is that most users are happy to see others money spent on the service yet not pay the true cost.

happycyclist says...
4:45pm Sat 13 Mar 10

Mikeee47 wrote:
happycyclist wrote:
Mikeee47 wrote: The govt' would raise more revenue by Taxing cyclist using the roads, enough money has been spent on cycle lanes for them, use that money for Happycyclists broadband. While we're at make it compusary for them to have insurance too SIMPLES
Course they would... in the same way they're going raise billions making dog owners get insurance. Don't be such an idiot. Many cyclists also have cars and so pay road tax anyway, and the proper cyclists you see, or the 'lycra louts' are usually in a club and have insurance. The Government would raise a lot more cash getting to grips with all the motorists charging around without tax, insurance or licences -none of which are a legal requirement for cyclists.
ooooooh did I touch a nerve?
So basically your saying because I have car insurance I should be able to ride my motorcycle for free??
Why have you brought dogs into the equasion, I don't own a dog,
In the 1st instance I wasn't diagreeing with the concept. just the fact, BT or virgin can invest, instead of us THE TAX PAYER having yo coff up, unless your happy to see your money WASTED
Erm, why did you bring cyclists into it?

The most boring people on earth are those who provoke and then when they get a reaction, turn around and go "ooooh did I touch a nerve?" or "I was only joking" or some other inane comment.

I made a comment about the story then you went rambling on about cyclists. Go figure.

exdrinker says...
6:32am Sun 14 Mar 10

Hi i get 0.5 meg and i pay for 10meg you tell me whats wrong there

pdb951 says...
4:43pm Sun 14 Mar 10

Another example of us not even catching up to the real world.
The only answer the problem is for everyone to be runnin on fibre without copper and at the moment this is just not going to happen. BT get rid of the aluminium cable which you seem to forget about.

Graham Hartley says...
8:41pm Sun 14 Mar 10

The councillor says “It would improve the isolation of rural communities.” This means that rural communities would be more isolated after spending two hundred million pounds on the quango he represents. What would be the cost of providing us with literate councillors?


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