New home-buyers in Darwen must pay for bins (From Lancashire Telegraph)
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New home-buyers in Darwen must pay for bins
7:00pm Thursday 4th October 2012 in News
By Catherine Pye, Health reporter
Coun Roy Davies at the Woodland Park development
HOME-buyers on a new Darwen estate are being hit with an unexpected £90 fee for bins.
Miller Homes, who are building the Woodland Park development in the Anyon Street area of Sudell, have declined to pay for wheelie, recycling or garden waste bins for the new homes.
Blackburn with Darwen Council says that, historically, it has been the developer’s responsibility to provide the bins, but there is no requirement for them to do so.
Coun Roy Davies said he had been contacted by several new owners with complaints. He said: “People have to be aware of this, because at the moment, they’re buying houses and then being hit with another cost.
“Ninety pounds is a lot of money especially after the cost of moving. But it’s peanuts for big developers, so they should take some responsibility.”
A spokesman for Miller Homes said the company had sold 228 properties on the site over seven years and provision of bins had always been the responsibility of the resident.
The spokesman added: “Policies differ according to local authority area but in the majority of cases, in our experience, it is accepted that the local authority is responsible for the free provision of wheelie bins or that they are funded by the residents. In the case of Woodland Park, we have never been responsible for provision.”
A council spokesman said: “Historically, it was the developers who bought the bins, but there is no requirement for them to do so, and so this kind of charge is not a new thing. We also now charge for bins that are lost or stolen, but we replace damaged bins free of charge. From our perspective, owners are buying into the whole collection service, not just buying a bin.”
In Ribble Valley, the council will provide bins if it is a single house that has been built, but on larger sites, the developer pays.
Hyndburn currently supplies bins for new properties but recently some developers have agreed to provide them as part of Section 106 agreements. The requirement is set to be formalised shortly.
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2 for 5p
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7:16pm Thu 4 Oct 12
Scooby
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8:26pm Thu 4 Oct 12
jellybiff
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vanmanstan
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12:02am Fri 5 Oct 12
jack daniels
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7:02am Fri 5 Oct 12
Fire Fly
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11:09am Fri 5 Oct 12
2 for 5p wrote:I disagree. Having just bought a house you're totally out of cash by the time everyone's ripped you off.
I'm quite sure if someone can afford a new house £90 for a bin is not to much to ask.
The deposits you now need in order to secure a mortgage are massive. As Jack Daniels has said...we pay council tax for refuse collection & as they insist on a certain bin type, they should provide them.
useyourhead
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11:47am Fri 5 Oct 12
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I wonder how long before you get the keys and have no boiler or roof lol, always read the small print.. you signed the paperwork so you pay.
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I also wonder how many bins will go missing from the adjacent streets in the coming months?
darwenTower
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12:28pm Fri 5 Oct 12
HILLBILLYBOB
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12:42pm Fri 5 Oct 12
I recently had a wheelie bin taken on the day of waste collection and was told by the council that I would have to pay for a new bin from them, or replace it myself.
But the bin had to be the exact same specification as the bins they supply, and to quote.... 'Not one just from B & Q' So householders have no other choice but to purchase one from the council.
I was also told that if I didnt buy a bin and I just put binbags out on the day of collection then I would be flytipping.
The advisor at the council then told me to 'Save up for one as they were only £90'!!!!
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1:21pm Fri 5 Oct 12
2 for 5p
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1:59pm Fri 5 Oct 12
jack daniels wrote:When you say the council should pay what you mean is council tax payers should have it put on there bills.
I would have thought that if you are paying council tax for your refuse collection then the council should pay for the bin, especially if the council insist on a specific type of bin
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2:04pm Fri 5 Oct 12
HILLBILLYBOB wrote:I'm suprised that your ire is aimed at the council there instead of the cheap scroates who stole your bin.
This is where the council have house owners over the "proverbial barrel" I recently had a wheelie bin taken on the day of waste collection and was told by the council that I would have to pay for a new bin from them, or replace it myself. But the bin had to be the exact same specification as the bins they supply, and to quote.... 'Not one just from B & Q' So householders have no other choice but to purchase one from the council. I was also told that if I didnt buy a bin and I just put binbags out on the day of collection then I would be flytipping. The advisor at the council then told me to 'Save up for one as they were only £90'!!!!
If you had your TV stolen you wouldn't expect Sony to give you a new one
allan1957
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2:26pm Fri 5 Oct 12
jack daniels
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3:01pm Fri 5 Oct 12
2 for 5p wrote:and the home owners pay council tax too.
jack daniels wrote: I would have thought that if you are paying council tax for your refuse collection then the council should pay for the bin, especially if the council insist on a specific type of binWhen you say the council should pay what you mean is council tax payers should have it put on there bills.
It's like when you get Sky TV and they say you get a 'free' set top box. We all know the price of the box is in the monthy subscription.
Same thing
happycyclist
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4:16pm Fri 5 Oct 12
happycyclist
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4:18pm Fri 5 Oct 12
allan1957 wrote:How the hell can you buy something and it remains the property of the person that sold it to you?
Is that £90 for all three types of bin's or price per bin. i was once told that if you purchase a bin it becomes the part of the house you live in so you are unable to remove it to another address if you move house. also the bin is still the property of the council despite you buying it
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4:46pm Fri 5 Oct 12
happycyclist wrote:Do you not have a Kindle or itunes?
allan1957 wrote: Is that £90 for all three types of bin's or price per bin. i was once told that if you purchase a bin it becomes the part of the house you live in so you are unable to remove it to another address if you move house. also the bin is still the property of the council despite you buying itHow the hell can you buy something and it remains the property of the person that sold it to you?
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5:34pm Fri 5 Oct 12
useyourhead
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lwg76
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11:47am Fri 12 Oct 12
2 for 5p says...
7:15pm Thu 4 Oct 12
it has been the developer’s responsibility to provide the bins, but there is no requirement for them to do so.
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A spokesman for Miller Homes said the company had sold 228 properties on the site over seven years and provision of bins had always been the
responsibility of the resident.