Liver disease shock rise in North West (From Lancashire Telegraph)

OMG, if it isn't smoking, it is heart disease.It if isn't heart disease, it is obesity.
If it isn't obesity. it's diabetis. If it isn't diabetis, it's lack of excercise. If it isn't lack of excercise, its because we aren't eating five portions of fruit and veg a day. For heavens sake leave folks alone.

High levels of poverty, despair and unemployment will generate high levels of drinking. A successive line of ‘southern centred’, indifferent governments with no interest in the North of England have left the place an industrial wasteland with meaningful employment a precious luxury rather than the norm.

The same high levels of poverty and unemployment will also increase the likelihood of a poor diet within the area, even more so with the increase in cost of fresh fruit and veg.

It’s no bl00dy wonder really…….

jack daniels wrote:
High levels of poverty, despair and unemployment will generate high levels of drinking. A successive line of ‘southern centred’, indifferent governments with no interest in the North of England have left the place an industrial wasteland with meaningful employment a precious luxury rather than the norm.

The same high levels of poverty and unemployment will also increase the likelihood of a poor diet within the area, even more so with the increase in cost of fresh fruit and veg.

It’s no bl00dy wonder really…….

So true, The health fascists want us to live for ever. But how many people suffer dementia? I know I would not like to live with it. So why are they continually harassing people.
Perhaps they want you to work until you drop.

jack daniels wrote:
High levels of poverty, despair and unemployment will generate high levels of drinking. A successive line of ‘southern centred’, indifferent governments with no interest in the North of England have left the place an industrial wasteland with meaningful employment a precious luxury rather than the norm.

The same high levels of poverty and unemployment will also increase the likelihood of a poor diet within the area, even more so with the increase in cost of fresh fruit and veg.

It’s no bl00dy wonder really…….

It was the inquest into the death of John Halewood today, who was famous for being "Mr Lambrini", that product being the cornerstone of his £175m business fortune. He died on an all day drinking binge, following a long stint as an alcoholic.

It isn't just the poor who are suffering the effects of alcohol issues. Far from it.

The poor aren't really poor like they used to be either, so why are they drinking more?

Alcoholic's can be very weak minded people and is a disease, but unlike other diseases it's a choice one take's to become dependant on booze. High levels of consumtion destroy's the brain cells and the lining of the liver. To excuse exessive drinking for poverty, unemployment, depression and other issues is equivelant to committing suicide. It can be cured and the alcoholic must first realize I have a disorder, but until then not willing to acknowledge the problem, is a very weak mind!

jack daniels wrote:
High levels of poverty, despair and unemployment will generate high levels of drinking. A successive line of ‘southern centred’, indifferent governments with no interest in the North of England have left the place an industrial wasteland with meaningful employment a precious luxury rather than the norm.

The same high levels of poverty and unemployment will also increase the likelihood of a poor diet within the area, even more so with the increase in cost of fresh fruit and veg.

It’s no bl00dy wonder really…….

Not really ! Why blame the goverment its you own responsiblity to look after your own health. people in this country are too much reliant on public funds from goverment..
If alcoholics can afford to buy booze and drugs they can also afford fruit and veg, no excuse.

This is all part of the drip feeding about cheap alcohol....
We need a minimum price on alcohol.
We need a minimum price on alcohol.
We need a minimum price on alcohol.
We need a minimum price on alcohol.
Drip, drip................

Jack Herer wrote:

jack daniels wrote: High levels of poverty, despair and unemployment will generate high levels of drinking. A successive line of ‘southern centred’, indifferent governments with no interest in the North of England have left the place an industrial wasteland with meaningful employment a precious luxury rather than the norm. The same high levels of poverty and unemployment will also increase the likelihood of a poor diet within the area, even more so with the increase in cost of fresh fruit and veg. It’s no bl00dy wonder really…….

It was the inquest into the death of John Halewood today, who was famous for being "Mr Lambrini", that product being the cornerstone of his £175m business fortune. He died on an all day drinking binge, following a long stint as an alcoholic. It isn't just the poor who are suffering the effects of alcohol issues. Far from it. The poor aren't really poor like they used to be either, so why are they drinking more?

I think it's because there are a set of people who have no desire to work and consider drinking as the only fun they get to help pass the time in-between sleeping, eating and their impending demise. The welfare structure has failed and the lack of quality employment, or any employment for some, has created a life of boredom, depression and futility.

It’s no excuse, and I sure as hell don’t intend to make an excuse for them, as people have the power to change their circumstances, yet there is no incentive to work when the goverment give you beer money - sorry - Job seekers allowance.

challenge me wrote:

jack daniels wrote:
High levels of poverty, despair and unemployment will generate high levels of drinking. A successive line of ‘southern centred’, indifferent governments with no interest in the North of England have left the place an industrial wasteland with meaningful employment a precious luxury rather than the norm.

The same high levels of poverty and unemployment will also increase the likelihood of a poor diet within the area, even more so with the increase in cost of fresh fruit and veg.

It’s no bl00dy wonder really…….

Not really ! Why blame the goverment its you own responsiblity to look after your own health. people in this country are too much reliant on public funds from goverment..
If alcoholics can afford to buy booze and drugs they can also afford fruit and veg, no excuse.

What about drinkers who work and pay taxes?
Are we allowed to have a pigging drink in peace?

I presume the House of Commons bars are empty these dasys are they?

challenge me wrote:

jack daniels wrote: High levels of poverty, despair and unemployment will generate high levels of drinking. A successive line of ‘southern centred’, indifferent governments with no interest in the North of England have left the place an industrial wasteland with meaningful employment a precious luxury rather than the norm. The same high levels of poverty and unemployment will also increase the likelihood of a poor diet within the area, even more so with the increase in cost of fresh fruit and veg. It’s no bl00dy wonder really…….

Not really ! Why blame the goverment its you own responsiblity to look after your own health. people in this country are too much reliant on public funds from goverment.. If alcoholics can afford to buy booze and drugs they can also afford fruit and veg, no excuse.

Not quite sure why you’ve quoted me as I never said it was the government’s responsibility to look after our health.

Not quite sure what people you mean by – “people in this country are too much reliant on public funds from government”

I also didn’t link alcoholics being unable to afford fruit and veg - I stated poverty, unemployment and the high retail cost.

Jack.

jack daniels wrote:

challenge me wrote:

jack daniels wrote: High levels of poverty, despair and unemployment will generate high levels of drinking. A successive line of ‘southern centred’, indifferent governments with no interest in the North of England have left the place an industrial wasteland with meaningful employment a precious luxury rather than the norm. The same high levels of poverty and unemployment will also increase the likelihood of a poor diet within the area, even more so with the increase in cost of fresh fruit and veg. It’s no bl00dy wonder really…….

Not really ! Why blame the goverment its you own responsiblity to look after your own health. people in this country are too much reliant on public funds from goverment.. If alcoholics can afford to buy booze and drugs they can also afford fruit and veg, no excuse.

Not quite sure why you’ve quoted me as I never said it was the government’s responsibility to look after our health.

Not quite sure what people you mean by – “people in this country are too much reliant on public funds from government”

I also didn’t link alcoholics being unable to afford fruit and veg - I stated poverty, unemployment and the high retail cost.

Jack.

Yes you're absolutely right.

If alcohol is consumed in the correct proportion then all contribution toweards taxes will be met oherwise it will be a burden on the National Health!

Alcohol abuse affects all classes - think of Churchill and George Brown, but it is the the way alcohol is sold and promoted which is the major reason for the steadily growing epidemic of liver didease. Just as smoking has become unfashionable because of recent legislation and price hikes so alcohol must become unfashionable as opposed to being socially acceptable to be seen in a drunken state. Sadly, young people, in many instances have been seduced by the drinking culture of their peers and, often, parents and will eventually pay a heavy price. Meanwhile the purveyors of alcohol will make millions out of them and the NHS (us!) will pick up the bill.

Surely a minimum price would help? At the very least it will deter folk from necking a 99p, 2 litre, bottle of chemicals (They call it cider but I doubt if its ever seen an apple!) and getting wrecked. And 'getting loaded before you hit town' wont be seen as a cheap option anymore so maybe will cut down on drunken anti social behaviour.