Hyndburn mosque plans hit land hitch (From Lancashire Telegraph)

Has anyone thought of attaching a covenant to the sale of the land, where the council can have a say in future plans? Am sure that this would be more than amicable to both sides.

As for the commercial aspect, this is to be a not-for-profit enterprise that would be self-financing to cover the utility costs without being a burden upon the local taxpayer. Surely this is a win-win for the council?

wow another mosque!!!!!

Don't give it to them.... I am sick and fed up how these community leaders think they can dictate on what they want and don't want. If they don't like the options available then tough.go and build it somewhere else, preferbly 2500 miles away.....

There is little doubt that the "community leaders" will get their way, I suspect. Whether it is a false perception or not, to the indigenous population it seems as if nothing is allowed to stand in the way of ever increasing mosque and madrasah development. The dome that was erected on the former industrial
building opposite Blackburn Tesco without planning permission then nodded through retrospectively is a prime example. How many religious sites are needed? At this rate the whole of East Lancashire will have more domes than Mecca.

stand up and fight it , don't just sit there get out on the streets , will will become the minority soon stop it now

stand up and fight we have to stop this within 50 years we will have lost our culture our heritage our identity , how many mosque do they need same here in bolton we have to say enough is enough . did you know they don't pay poll tax because its a prayer room , there are over 33000 prayer rooms in bolton .

Rather than building new mosques they should be given the old empty churches that no one uses.

Who is paying for the building of this mosque? We know the council owns the land, they compulsary purchased the properties for generous sums, but who is stumping up the millions for the build and why is it that there is a building which only serves a minority being built on council land?

Turn it into allotments.

i know alot wrote:
Don't give it to them.... I am sick and fed up how these community leaders think they can dictate on what they want and don't want. If they don't like the options available then tough.go and build it somewhere else, preferbly 2500 miles away.....

Well said!!

As a Hyndburn council tax payer, I strongly oppose giving freehold status to any land we own and after seeing how little monetary return we tax payers would see from this large plot of land, the council should not back down. Especially as this would be a one off payment with no future payments or taxes being collected for any religious premises.
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I believe once upon a time that there were manufacturing factories and mills on the main road at the bottom of Steiner Street and the council's first consideration is to bring tax paying commercial enterprises into Hyndburn.
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The second consideration for what little land there is in Hyndburn should be for the 10,000 new housing stock that an earlier government review highlighted would be needed - not to sell off our land for a male only club.
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Earlier Hyndburn councillors have done no favours to their constituents; having ruined traders in the town centre by ill thought out initial parking restrictions, then by cutting off passing trade by allowing Lancs. C.C. to rearrange roads for their "free flow" traffic system, This Council should look at the bigger picture and do what is in the best interests of all Hyndburn residents.
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wrinkles wrote:
As a Hyndburn council tax payer, I strongly oppose giving freehold status to any land we own and after seeing how little monetary return we tax payers would see from this large plot of land, the council should not back down. Especially as this would be a one off payment with no future payments or taxes being collected for any religious premises.
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I believe once upon a time that there were manufacturing factories and mills on the main road at the bottom of Steiner Street and the council's first consideration is to bring tax paying commercial enterprises into Hyndburn.
.
The second consideration for what little land there is in Hyndburn should be for the 10,000 new housing stock that an earlier government review highlighted would be needed - not to sell off our land for a male only club.
.
Earlier Hyndburn councillors have done no favours to their constituents; having ruined traders in the town centre by ill thought out initial parking restrictions, then by cutting off passing trade by allowing Lancs. C.C. to rearrange roads for their "free flow" traffic system, This Council should look at the bigger picture and do what is in the best interests of all Hyndburn residents.
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As a Hyndburn council tax payer, are you and all the rest of us going to be funding this or subsidising this project???

spooko wrote:
stand up and fight we have to stop this within 50 years we will have lost our culture our heritage our identity , how many mosque do they need same here in bolton we have to say enough is enough . did you know they don't pay poll tax because its a prayer room , there are over 33000 prayer rooms in bolton .

Now theres a thought, change my spare room into a prayer room. Save on Poll tax, whats good for one is good for another.

prince of darkness wrote:

spooko wrote:
stand up and fight we have to stop this within 50 years we will have lost our culture our heritage our identity , how many mosque do they need same here in bolton we have to say enough is enough . did you know they don't pay poll tax because its a prayer room , there are over 33000 prayer rooms in bolton .

Now theres a thought, change my spare room into a prayer room. Save on Poll tax, whats good for one is good for another.

What do you think they have been doing up and down the country? Apparently there are more places of worship registered in Asian areas than in any other non Asian areas.

timeforcommonsense wrote:

prince of darkness wrote:

spooko wrote:
stand up and fight we have to stop this within 50 years we will have lost our culture our heritage our identity , how many mosque do they need same here in bolton we have to say enough is enough . did you know they don't pay poll tax because its a prayer room , there are over 33000 prayer rooms in bolton .

Now theres a thought, change my spare room into a prayer room. Save on Poll tax, whats good for one is good for another.

What do you think they have been doing up and down the country? Apparently there are more places of worship registered in Asian areas than in any other non Asian areas.

I assume these places of worship are open and accessible for any Muslim to go and worship, whenever they like?
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Imagine their horror if you just randomly kept turning up to pray, where is a list of these prayer rooms available? ooh the possibilities lol.

Why do we want a mosque on the door way to Accrington? Its bad enough now!

The Muslims require a place of worship just like many other religions but sadly as some people are in a pitch of atheism they decide to be objective.

As its one of the fastest growing religion including a lot of reverts, a house or small place cannot accommodate the vast amount of Muslims so ideally a proposal to initiate on the land that had been purchased set for the mosque should be made available on the health and safety policy legislation.

timeforcommonsense wrote:

wrinkles wrote:
As a Hyndburn council tax payer, I strongly oppose giving freehold status to any land we own and after seeing how little monetary return we tax payers would see from this large plot of land, the council should not back down. Especially as this would be a one off payment with no future payments or taxes being collected for any religious premises.
.
I believe once upon a time that there were manufacturing factories and mills on the main road at the bottom of Steiner Street and the council's first consideration is to bring tax paying commercial enterprises into Hyndburn.
.
The second consideration for what little land there is in Hyndburn should be for the 10,000 new housing stock that an earlier government review highlighted would be needed - not to sell off our land for a male only club.
.
Earlier Hyndburn councillors have done no favours to their constituents; having ruined traders in the town centre by ill thought out initial parking restrictions, then by cutting off passing trade by allowing Lancs. C.C. to rearrange roads for their "free flow" traffic system, This Council should look at the bigger picture and do what is in the best interests of all Hyndburn residents.
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As a Hyndburn council tax payer, are you and all the rest of us going to be funding this or subsidising this project???

Not all should, including churches plus the fed up lot sorry atheists

wrinkles wrote:
As a Hyndburn council tax payer, I strongly oppose giving freehold status to any land we own and after seeing how little monetary return we tax payers would see from this large plot of land, the council should not back down. Especially as this would be a one off payment with no future payments or taxes being collected for any religious premises.
.
I believe once upon a time that there were manufacturing factories and mills on the main road at the bottom of Steiner Street and the council's first consideration is to bring tax paying commercial enterprises into Hyndburn.
.
The second consideration for what little land there is in Hyndburn should be for the 10,000 new housing stock that an earlier government review highlighted would be needed - not to sell off our land for a male only club.
.
Earlier Hyndburn councillors have done no favours to their constituents; having ruined traders in the town centre by ill thought out initial parking restrictions, then by cutting off passing trade by allowing Lancs. C.C. to rearrange roads for their "free flow" traffic system, This Council should look at the bigger picture and do what is in the best interests of all Hyndburn residents.
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NOT FUNDED BY COUNCIL, CHILL

wrinkles wrote:
As a Hyndburn council tax payer, I strongly oppose giving freehold status to any land we own and after seeing how little monetary return we tax payers would see from this large plot of land, the council should not back down. Especially as this would be a one off payment with no future payments or taxes being collected for any religious premises.
.
I believe once upon a time that there were manufacturing factories and mills on the main road at the bottom of Steiner Street and the council's first consideration is to bring tax paying commercial enterprises into Hyndburn.
.
The second consideration for what little land there is in Hyndburn should be for the 10,000 new housing stock that an earlier government review highlighted would be needed - not to sell off our land for a male only club.
.
Earlier Hyndburn councillors have done no favours to their constituents; having ruined traders in the town centre by ill thought out initial parking restrictions, then by cutting off passing trade by allowing Lancs. C.C. to rearrange roads for their "free flow" traffic system, This Council should look at the bigger picture and do what is in the best interests of all Hyndburn residents.
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NOT FUNDED BY COUNCIL, CHILL

i know alot wrote:
Don't give it to them.... I am sick and fed up how these community leaders think they can dictate on what they want and don't want. If they don't like the options available then tough.go and build it somewhere else, preferbly 2500 miles away.....

WHO ARE YOU ****?

volvowoman wrote:
I am sick and fed up of the minority getting all their own way as previously said just how many of these places of worship needed it is ridiculous and as for health and safety they dont seem to factor that in for all things within their lives, I am refering to driving with a full veil and the back of shop takeaways, park on the carpark behind blackburn road, the rear of the takeaways are in very poor state. if this is how their livelyhoods are treated what are the facilites in other places going to be like.
There are more than enough places of worship in our area to accommodate all religions, it is turning into corner shop mentality

RANTING LIKE YOUR FUNDING IT. IM SICK OF YOU!

Venomp wrote:

volvowoman wrote:
I am sick and fed up of the minority getting all their own way as previously said just how many of these places of worship needed it is ridiculous and as for health and safety they dont seem to factor that in for all things within their lives, I am refering to driving with a full veil and the back of shop takeaways, park on the carpark behind blackburn road, the rear of the takeaways are in very poor state. if this is how their livelyhoods are treated what are the facilites in other places going to be like.
There are more than enough places of worship in our area to accommodate all religions, it is turning into corner shop mentality

RANTING LIKE YOUR FUNDING IT. IM SICK OF YOU!

I am not ranting just expressing my opinion and I don't care who is funding it there are enough places for worship, and there is really no need to shout or have I touched on something

volvowoman wrote:

Venomp wrote:

volvowoman wrote:
I am sick and fed up of the minority getting all their own way as previously said just how many of these places of worship needed it is ridiculous and as for health and safety they dont seem to factor that in for all things within their lives, I am refering to driving with a full veil and the back of shop takeaways, park on the carpark behind blackburn road, the rear of the takeaways are in very poor state. if this is how their livelyhoods are treated what are the facilites in other places going to be like.
There are more than enough places of worship in our area to accommodate all religions, it is turning into corner shop mentality

RANTING LIKE YOUR FUNDING IT. IM SICK OF YOU!

I am not ranting just expressing my opinion and I don't care who is funding it there are enough places for worship, and there is really no need to shout or have I touched on something

The words that you have used are a expression of disgruntlement. To correctly dissapropove something you donot use words of anxiety to dismay others.
As the news article says two would not be used instead a single building would be used to oversee the many muslims in Accrington.