Council tax benefit changes could cost poorest Blackburn claimants (From Lancashire Telegraph)

Disgusting. In other words, whether the poor can pay or not, they will hold a gun to your head anyway...yet another backward step by a backward government. This will be Camerons Poll Tax scenario...

HairyBowls wrote:
Disgusting. In other words, whether the poor can pay or not, they will hold a gun to your head anyway...yet another backward step by a backward government. This will be Camerons Poll Tax scenario...

Not only this but the spare room payments too. They know full well that most won't be able to pay it and will go out robbin if they are forced to but if the amount that a person receives and benefits is as it says ' the minimum amount that you need by law to live on' then I am sure that solicitors are rubbing there hands at all the cases to come forth.

but we are all in it together? obviously why hmrc persued vodaphone so hard over its £6billion tax that was unpaid or the reason why people like pte shelton who lost a limb in afghanistan are no longer viewed as disabled. hope everyone benefitted from the £9billion olympics and enjoys the idea of another £7 million spend on the road at the wainright bridge in blackburn. pity the pfi funding the blackburn royal didnt include the old workhouse because that is where many of us are heading come next year. wonder if dave cameron and his mate gideon will come up north to talk to voters and explain how its all for our own good?

Just a reduction of £25 per month, thats nothing, cancel you sky subscription cut down on the fags or drink, and you covered it !

Sajdin wrote:
Just a reduction of £25 per month, thats nothing, cancel you sky subscription cut down on the fags or drink, and you covered it !

But how will your cousins cope with the lost business ?

Having so many poor people from places such as India, Pakistan and Bangladesh puts a huge burden on the services provided by the council.

Cut down on the massive families, poor diet and reluctance to learn the language of where you now live and there wouldn't need to be an increase.

Sajdin wrote:
Just a reduction of £25 per month, thats nothing, cancel you sky subscription cut down on the fags or drink, and you covered it !

Idiot

I still can't believe how many pensioners still vote Tory, I feel sorry for the genuine people who will go hungry or cold, Thanks to the coalition.

Sajdin wrote:
Just a reduction of £25 per month, thats nothing, cancel you sky subscription cut down on the fags or drink, and you covered it !

What a prat you are! The welfare state is in the situation it is in because of our liberal attitude to immigration etc.
1) put a cap on the number of children a family can claim tax credits for etc - i.e. 2 max!
2) re vamp the legal system and remove the right to appeal continually on the grounds of ridiculous clauses e.g. 'a right to a family life' (even for convicted criminal asylum seekers!)
Audit the bent bankers who raped the financial system then sailed off into the caribbean on their yachts - bring them to book and start seizing assets. I know it ain't gonna happen - but for gods sake at least get rid of this bunch of cretins who claim to be a government - whilst they are in power the rich are getting richer and this article is a pefect example to prove how the poor are becoming poorer!

Stop moaning the lot of you, its about time the government stopped handouts and rewarded the people who actually work.

I cant believe the lot of you are moaning about a reduction of £25 per month ! my lord grow up, its about time this government saved money from handouts, and rewarded the people who work all they lives. I work full time and get hardly anything from the government, so any reduction towards them, is perfect ! Go out and get a friggin job. This reduction is for individuals at working age, yes WORKING !

Sajdin wrote:
Stop moaning the lot of you, its about time the government stopped handouts and rewarded the people who actually work.

LOL Troll

Stuart Farquar wrote:

Sajdin wrote:
Stop moaning the lot of you, its about time the government stopped handouts and rewarded the people who actually work.

LOL Troll

Do you get handouts? is that why you so against it?

Sajdin wrote:
Stop moaning the lot of you, its about time the government stopped handouts and rewarded the people who actually work.

a lot of people DO work and can still claim benefit, where do they find the extra?
another tory tax on the poor.

Sad-jin...its precisely the legal aspect that is the problem here...they have rushed through legislation without thought of the legal implications that exist. This government is going to face MASSIVE legal bills...Social Security laws that already exist will be broken in many areas...Camerons PPI

Sajdin wrote:
I cant believe the lot of you are moaning about a reduction of £25 per month ! my lord grow up, its about time this government saved money from handouts, and rewarded the people who work all they lives. I work full time and get hardly anything from the government, so any reduction towards them, is perfect ! Go out and get a friggin job. This reduction is for individuals at working age, yes WORKING !

But you all keep piling into our country so you can claim our benefits or take our jobs. even have inbred children for the extra disability allowance

Sajdin wrote:
Stop moaning the lot of you, its about time the government stopped handouts and rewarded the people who actually work.

Fortunately we live in a civilised society where tolerance of others and the freedom of speech is enshrined in law. Unfortunately there are still some countries in the world where their citizens do not enjoy such privileges and where women are institutionally subjugated by men and are prevented from making their own choices about who they marry, who they associate with and even in some countries are not permitted to leave their homes without the permission of their husband or a male relative.

Sajdin wrote:
I cant believe the lot of you are moaning about a reduction of £25 per month ! my lord grow up, its about time this government saved money from handouts, and rewarded the people who work all they lives. I work full time and get hardly anything from the government, so any reduction towards them, is perfect ! Go out and get a friggin job. This reduction is for individuals at working age, yes WORKING !

Fortunately we live in a civilised society where tolerance of others and the freedom of speech is enshrined in law. Unfortunately there are still some countries in the world where their citizens do not enjoy such privileges and where women are institutionally subjugated by men and are prevented from making their own choices about who they marry, who they associate with and even in some countries are not permitted to leave their homes without the permission of their husband or a male relative.

In the United Kingdom anyone can overtly follow whatever religion that they choose to whilst in many other countries people are not given that freedom, on the contrary, their religious freedoms are suppressed and often criminalised. In this country, whether you are a Christian, Jew, Hindu, Sikh, Muslim, Atheist or any other belief you are treated equally and that principle is legally protected.

Sajdin wrote:
Stop moaning the lot of you, its about time the government stopped handouts and rewarded the people who actually work.

He's correct. It's the whingers and spongers demanding we pay for their lazy indulgent layabout lives that cause the biggest problem in this area. It tends to be the laziest who throw in red herrings about immigration to divert attention away from their back problems; they can't get their backs off their bed or couch.

HairyBowls wrote:
Disgusting. In other words, whether the poor can pay or not, they will hold a gun to your head anyway...yet another backward step by a backward government. This will be Camerons Poll Tax scenario...

us on benifits may well
curl up and die
why dont the councils
tell the goverment what is
council tax chaing will
do to the poor and the old
is it becouse some of them
are getting back handers to
push this bill???
there will be a lot of poor
and the old on the street
so tell me who is going to find some place for all the
familys + kids to stay
somone will have to pay for
a place for them to go
OUT OF THIS MESS OUR HUMEN
RIGHT ARE BEING PUT ON THE SHELF???? I HOPE ALL THE
COUNCIL MEMBERS IN MY
TOWN CAN SLEEP AT NIGHT

Chris P Bacon wrote:

Sajdin wrote: Stop moaning the lot of you, its about time the government stopped handouts and rewarded the people who actually work.

He's correct. It's the whingers and spongers demanding we pay for their lazy indulgent layabout lives that cause the biggest problem in this area. It tends to be the laziest who throw in red herrings about immigration to divert attention away from their back problems; they can't get their backs off their bed or couch.

Go wax yer legs and give your fingers a rest son.

Stuart Farquar wrote:

Chris P Bacon wrote:

Sajdin wrote: Stop moaning the lot of you, its about time the government stopped handouts and rewarded the people who actually work.

He's correct. It's the whingers and spongers demanding we pay for their lazy indulgent layabout lives that cause the biggest problem in this area. It tends to be the laziest who throw in red herrings about immigration to divert attention away from their back problems; they can't get their backs off their bed or couch.

Go wax yer legs and give your fingers a rest son.

No. I'm happy to say I have nothing to do with you in any way, shape or form and as my intellectual inferior, your patronising makes you look particularly foolish. And I have NEVER shaved my legs in my life; you can only have got that total nonsense from the Jehovah's Witness of stupidity. Unless you ARE actually him under yet another tedious nom-de-plume?

Chris P Bacon wrote:

Stuart Farquar wrote:

Chris P Bacon wrote:

Sajdin wrote: Stop moaning the lot of you, its about time the government stopped handouts and rewarded the people who actually work.

He's correct. It's the whingers and spongers demanding we pay for their lazy indulgent layabout lives that cause the biggest problem in this area. It tends to be the laziest who throw in red herrings about immigration to divert attention away from their back problems; they can't get their backs off their bed or couch.

Go wax yer legs and give your fingers a rest son.

No. I'm happy to say I have nothing to do with you in any way, shape or form and as my intellectual inferior, your patronising makes you look particularly foolish. And I have NEVER shaved my legs in my life; you can only have got that total nonsense from the Jehovah's Witness of stupidity. Unless you ARE actually him under yet another tedious nom-de-plume?

LOL keep yer wig on aunty Christine, I never mentioned 'shaving' I said waxing which is completely different... Any ways going from your comments you must be a banker !!

Sajdin wrote:
Stop moaning the lot of you, its about time the government stopped handouts and rewarded the people who actually work.

You're an idiot. I have nothing more to add.

Chris P Bacon wrote:

Stuart Farquar wrote:

Chris P Bacon wrote:

Sajdin wrote: Stop moaning the lot of you, its about time the government stopped handouts and rewarded the people who actually work.

He's correct. It's the whingers and spongers demanding we pay for their lazy indulgent layabout lives that cause the biggest problem in this area. It tends to be the laziest who throw in red herrings about immigration to divert attention away from their back problems; they can't get their backs off their bed or couch.

Go wax yer legs and give your fingers a rest son.

No. I'm happy to say I have nothing to do with you in any way, shape or form and as my intellectual inferior, your patronising makes you look particularly foolish. And I have NEVER shaved my legs in my life; you can only have got that total nonsense from the Jehovah's Witness of stupidity. Unless you ARE actually him under yet another tedious nom-de-plume?

Love the pseudo intellectualism. I would only ever look forward to you ending up the way many people have over the years, which you no doubt will. You're probably some social scrounger yourself, or living in your mothers house being fed and clothed by them. Just wait until you have to move out, and we'll see how far your pseudo intellect gets you.

Band A council tax in England (for properties up to £40,000 in value) pay an average of £845 pa. The top band H, for properties valued at over £320,000, pay an average of £2,536. The house values alone should tell anyone how outdated the banding system is, because houses worth around £100,000 now are still on band A. The valuations haven't been reviewed since 1993.
Someone in a one-bed flat is now paying the same as someone in a 3-bed terrace. Whilst at the other end of the scale, anyone living in a £320,000 property is paying the same as someone in a 30-bed mansion worth millions: an average of just £2,536 a year. Someone on a salary of millions a year can easily afford to pay more council tax, but people on £71pw JSA are being asked to pay 20% of the council tax that they currently are exempt from because of their low income.
This is the most unfair aspect of the council tax.

laureneverett86@hotm
ail.co.uk wrote:

Sajdin wrote:
I cant believe the lot of you are moaning about a reduction of £25 per month ! my lord grow up, its about time this government saved money from handouts, and rewarded the people who work all they lives. I work full time and get hardly anything from the government, so any reduction towards them, is perfect ! Go out and get a friggin job. This reduction is for individuals at working age, yes WORKING !

But you all keep piling into our country so you can claim our benefits or take our jobs. even have inbred children for the extra disability allowance

How did I pile into your country? I was born in Burnley, bought up and educated in Pendle, now work within the NHS and pay my due. You an uneducated twit. And clearly stupid for having your email address as your username !

When you talk about "the poor", do you mean people like those on the Shadsworth programme?

Sajdin wrote:

laureneverett86@hotm

ail.co.uk wrote:

Sajdin wrote:
I cant believe the lot of you are moaning about a reduction of £25 per month ! my lord grow up, its about time this government saved money from handouts, and rewarded the people who work all they lives. I work full time and get hardly anything from the government, so any reduction towards them, is perfect ! Go out and get a friggin job. This reduction is for individuals at working age, yes WORKING !

But you all keep piling into our country so you can claim our benefits or take our jobs. even have inbred children for the extra disability allowance

How did I pile into your country? I was born in Burnley, bought up and educated in Pendle, now work within the NHS and pay my due. You an uneducated twit. And clearly stupid for having your email address as your username !

Stupid or brave....

You failed to mention anything about you being inbred so I can only assume she got that right. Working at the hospital you'll know all about cousin marriages and the cost to social services and the pct.

Hi 6's anyone?

I pray that those who are feeling lonely and affraid through these times of Tyrannical rule make it to see the Tyrant Banksters and governments burn in hell...

REMEMBER..food prices are going to double before christmas..STOCK UP on tins and longlife foods while prices hold..the question of IF this is going to happen is no longer being asked only WHEN its going to happen and leading stock market traders are certainly agreeing that it will be before christmas fall..

Its the reason London was armed up for war..Not from other countries or terrorists from its own citizens fighting for the last available commodities. They will put the world in to a state of civil war you only need to watch some other news programmes than the BBC to see that they're not far from turning the entire populous of the world onto itself and those who can't see that are most likely the ones causing all this hardship on mankind. We are on the brink of another war. Lets face facts the past five thousand years has been nothing more than wars and hatred between fellow man..We have now got to the point on this planet that one as got to go either war or humans. We need leaders in place that are strong enough to see that not so weak they cause it. Its time to change our way of thinking and write off world debt and cleanse the world of banksters warmongers and dig out and expose those who hide and operate in the shadows. Its our only hope if we want to survive this nightmare we have all been cast in to. Nobody will survive if we carry on like we are and the time to choose between HUMANS and WAR is slipping further away each day.

To close with if you would like to protest about these cuts you MUST apply for a permit first from the council otherwise you face immediate arrest..TYRANNY....

KEEP STRONG FELLOW SURVIVORS STOCK UP WHILE PRICES REMAIN AS THEY ARE...THE INCREASES ARE COMING SOON.........


.

Info-warrior wrote:
I pray that those who are feeling lonely and affraid through these times of Tyrannical rule make it to see the Tyrant Banksters and governments burn in hell... REMEMBER..food prices are going to double before christmas..STOCK UP on tins and longlife foods while prices hold..the question of IF this is going to happen is no longer being asked only WHEN its going to happen and leading stock market traders are certainly agreeing that it will be before christmas fall.. Its the reason London was armed up for war..Not from other countries or terrorists from its own citizens fighting for the last available commodities. They will put the world in to a state of civil war you only need to watch some other news programmes than the BBC to see that they're not far from turning the entire populous of the world onto itself and those who can't see that are most likely the ones causing all this hardship on mankind. We are on the brink of another war. Lets face facts the past five thousand years has been nothing more than wars and hatred between fellow man..We have now got to the point on this planet that one as got to go either war or humans. We need leaders in place that are strong enough to see that not so weak they cause it. Its time to change our way of thinking and write off world debt and cleanse the world of banksters warmongers and dig out and expose those who hide and operate in the shadows. Its our only hope if we want to survive this nightmare we have all been cast in to. Nobody will survive if we carry on like we are and the time to choose between HUMANS and WAR is slipping further away each day. To close with if you would like to protest about these cuts you MUST apply for a permit first from the council otherwise you face immediate arrest..TYRANNY.... KEEP STRONG FELLOW SURVIVORS STOCK UP WHILE PRICES REMAIN AS THEY ARE...THE INCREASES ARE COMING SOON......... .

It will be pandemonium ! What will the sheep do without there iPhones lol

Stuart Farquar wrote:

Chris P Bacon wrote:

Sajdin wrote: Stop moaning the lot of you, its about time the government stopped handouts and rewarded the people who actually work.

He's correct. It's the whingers and spongers demanding we pay for their lazy indulgent layabout lives that cause the biggest problem in this area. It tends to be the laziest who throw in red herrings about immigration to divert attention away from their back problems; they can't get their backs off their bed or couch.

Go wax yer legs and give your fingers a rest son.

You know Stuart I've got to agree with Chris P Bacon and Sajdin, on this one.

sen c ble wrote:

Stuart Farquar wrote:

Chris P Bacon wrote:

Sajdin wrote: Stop moaning the lot of you, its about time the government stopped handouts and rewarded the people who actually work.

He's correct. It's the whingers and spongers demanding we pay for their lazy indulgent layabout lives that cause the biggest problem in this area. It tends to be the laziest who throw in red herrings about immigration to divert attention away from their back problems; they can't get their backs off their bed or couch.

Go wax yer legs and give your fingers a rest son.

You know Stuart I've got to agree with Chris P Bacon and Sajdin, on this one.

Well don't be worrying yourself about it, I'm not lol

Stuart Farquar wrote:

sen c ble wrote:

Stuart Farquar wrote:

Chris P Bacon wrote:

Sajdin wrote: Stop moaning the lot of you, its about time the government stopped handouts and rewarded the people who actually work.

He's correct. It's the whingers and spongers demanding we pay for their lazy indulgent layabout lives that cause the biggest problem in this area. It tends to be the laziest who throw in red herrings about immigration to divert attention away from their back problems; they can't get their backs off their bed or couch.

Go wax yer legs and give your fingers a rest son.

You know Stuart I've got to agree with Chris P Bacon and Sajdin, on this one.

Well don't be worrying yourself about it, I'm not lol

No I won't..
It's just that RUInsane may whizz round the corner in that Fiat Twinair and do your legs the honours.
That will make me worry!

After much thought and deliberation, I have decided that the Panorama documentary on Shadsworth, was the Governments way of getting people on side for some huge benefit cuts, then we would all cheer when the 50'' TV brigade lost their homes and benefits etc. Meanwhile the banksters are taking all the money they can from the Government it quantitative easing and no one says a word. Clever stuff but nothing new it's an old Tory ploy of divide and rule and you all fell for it :) not bad from a Tory from Clitheroe now where has my book about Arthur Scargill gone?

Stuart Farquar wrote:

Info-warrior wrote:
I pray that those who are feeling lonely and affraid through these times of Tyrannical rule make it to see the Tyrant Banksters and governments burn in hell... REMEMBER..food prices are going to double before christmas..STOCK UP on tins and longlife foods while prices hold..the question of IF this is going to happen is no longer being asked only WHEN its going to happen and leading stock market traders are certainly agreeing that it will be before christmas fall.. Its the reason London was armed up for war..Not from other countries or terrorists from its own citizens fighting for the last available commodities. They will put the world in to a state of civil war you only need to watch some other news programmes than the BBC to see that they're not far from turning the entire populous of the world onto itself and those who can't see that are most likely the ones causing all this hardship on mankind. We are on the brink of another war. Lets face facts the past five thousand years has been nothing more than wars and hatred between fellow man..We have now got to the point on this planet that one as got to go either war or humans. We need leaders in place that are strong enough to see that not so weak they cause it. Its time to change our way of thinking and write off world debt and cleanse the world of banksters warmongers and dig out and expose those who hide and operate in the shadows. Its our only hope if we want to survive this nightmare we have all been cast in to. Nobody will survive if we carry on like we are and the time to choose between HUMANS and WAR is slipping further away each day. To close with if you would like to protest about these cuts you MUST apply for a permit first from the council otherwise you face immediate arrest..TYRANNY.... KEEP STRONG FELLOW SURVIVORS STOCK UP WHILE PRICES REMAIN AS THEY ARE...THE INCREASES ARE COMING SOON......... .

It will be pandemonium ! What will the sheep do without there iPhones lol

Batty as he may be, he knows more about grammar than you.

And anyone who 'lol's in their own post loses any credibility they mistakenly think lingers about them. In your case, like a foul Dame Judy.

Chris P Bacon wrote:

Stuart Farquar wrote:

Info-warrior wrote: I pray that those who are feeling lonely and affraid through these times of Tyrannical rule make it to see the Tyrant Banksters and governments burn in hell... REMEMBER..food prices are going to double before christmas..STOCK UP on tins and longlife foods while prices hold..the question of IF this is going to happen is no longer being asked only WHEN its going to happen and leading stock market traders are certainly agreeing that it will be before christmas fall.. Its the reason London was armed up for war..Not from other countries or terrorists from its own citizens fighting for the last available commodities. They will put the world in to a state of civil war you only need to watch some other news programmes than the BBC to see that they're not far from turning the entire populous of the world onto itself and those who can't see that are most likely the ones causing all this hardship on mankind. We are on the brink of another war. Lets face facts the past five thousand years has been nothing more than wars and hatred between fellow man..We have now got to the point on this planet that one as got to go either war or humans. We need leaders in place that are strong enough to see that not so weak they cause it. Its time to change our way of thinking and write off world debt and cleanse the world of banksters warmongers and dig out and expose those who hide and operate in the shadows. Its our only hope if we want to survive this nightmare we have all been cast in to. Nobody will survive if we carry on like we are and the time to choose between HUMANS and WAR is slipping further away each day. To close with if you would like to protest about these cuts you MUST apply for a permit first from the council otherwise you face immediate arrest..TYRANNY.... KEEP STRONG FELLOW SURVIVORS STOCK UP WHILE PRICES REMAIN AS THEY ARE...THE INCREASES ARE COMING SOON......... .

It will be pandemonium ! What will the sheep do without there iPhones lol

Batty as he may be, he knows more about grammar than you. And anyone who 'lol's in their own post loses any credibility they mistakenly think lingers about them. In your case, like a foul Dame Judy.

LOL stop moaning you big girls blouse !! HaHa ... GO GET YER LEGS DONE AND YOUR HAIR

You need an apostrophe in 'girl's' you functionally illiterate shobgite (sp).

W T F is going on on this site ? Same old people spouting rubbish - that in most cases has nothing to do do with the subject matter -
This is a comments column not a forum!

workaholic wrote:
W T F is going on on this site ? Same old people spouting rubbish - that in most cases has nothing to do do with the subject matter - This is a comments column not a forum!

It's her ... Aunty Christine, she keeps pickin on me !

workaholic wrote:
W T F is going on on this site ? Same old people spouting rubbish - that in most cases has nothing to do do with the subject matter -
This is a comments column not a forum!

Even though we're old people, old enough to be your great grandad, we like to chill.

Can't join in, p1550f!

Will this effect people like me that are entitled(and very rightly so) to single persons 25%discount?

Todays observer stated that the Tories are even going to cut benefits from people that work part time. What a clueless bunch of Feckwits these Tories are.

workaholic wrote:
W T F is going on on this site ? Same old people spouting rubbish - that in most cases has nothing to do do with the subject matter -
This is a comments column not a forum!

I have to agree with you, I like a bit of a laugh my self but this is getting out of hand. It would be better if we could send instant messages to each other that way the banter would still be fun without spoiling the comments. I think to a lot of us it has become like a forum. Now how many people this upsets I would like to know, maybe a vote is needed?

jack daniels wrote:
Todays observer stated that the Tories are even going to cut benefits from people that work part time. What a clueless bunch of Feckwits these Tories are.

I've got just two words to say to that. A and men.

jack daniels wrote:
Having so many poor people from places such as India, Pakistan and Bangladesh puts a huge burden on the services provided by the council.

Cut down on the massive families, poor diet and reluctance to learn the language of where you now live and there wouldn't need to be an increase.

shut up u old fool your racist inappropriate comments are not valid. do u never get bored.

jack daniels wrote:

Sajdin wrote:

laureneverett86@hotm


ail.co.uk wrote:

Sajdin wrote:
I cant believe the lot of you are moaning about a reduction of £25 per month ! my lord grow up, its about time this government saved money from handouts, and rewarded the people who work all they lives. I work full time and get hardly anything from the government, so any reduction towards them, is perfect ! Go out and get a friggin job. This reduction is for individuals at working age, yes WORKING !

But you all keep piling into our country so you can claim our benefits or take our jobs. even have inbred children for the extra disability allowance

How did I pile into your country? I was born in Burnley, bought up and educated in Pendle, now work within the NHS and pay my due. You an uneducated twit. And clearly stupid for having your email address as your username !

Stupid or brave....

You failed to mention anything about you being inbred so I can only assume she got that right. Working at the hospital you'll know all about cousin marriages and the cost to social services and the pct.

Hi 6's anyone?

You are the stupid racist one ! at least the cousin marriages know who their father is unlike some.

and theres nothing wrong with cousin marriages.it is proven FACT.

Sajdin wrote:

laureneverett86@hotm

ail.co.uk wrote:

Sajdin wrote:
I cant believe the lot of you are moaning about a reduction of £25 per month ! my lord grow up, its about time this government saved money from handouts, and rewarded the people who work all they lives. I work full time and get hardly anything from the government, so any reduction towards them, is perfect ! Go out and get a friggin job. This reduction is for individuals at working age, yes WORKING !

But you all keep piling into our country so you can claim our benefits or take our jobs. even have inbred children for the extra disability allowance

How did I pile into your country? I was born in Burnley, bought up and educated in Pendle, now work within the NHS and pay my due. You an uneducated twit. And clearly stupid for having your email address as your username !

Too right well said sajidin. this jack daniels is on a crusade to ridicule Asains and Islam. he thinks he's clever with words but he's just another media brainwashed idiot from shadsworth.

challenge me wrote:

jack daniels wrote:
Having so many poor people from places such as India, Pakistan and Bangladesh puts a huge burden on the services provided by the council.

Cut down on the massive families, poor diet and reluctance to learn the language of where you now live and there wouldn't need to be an increase.

shut up u old fool your racist inappropriate comments are not valid. do u never get bored.

Its not racist its the truth and its about time we stood up for ourselves and claimed our country back. freedom of speech not racism

You know what? Everyones going on about the 'rich' Torys and how the poor working class always get hit, but take your heads out of the sand and look at the likes of the leaders of the Labour Party and the Union barons and look at how THEY won't lose out whenever they call YOU out on strike. You bloody donkeys :-(

Council tax went up by 70% under Blair/Brown.

Was there a 70% rise in quantity or quality of services?

No. But there was a huge increase of feckless parasites, busy doing nothing in the public sector on very generous salaries.

We are taxed enough in this country. Council tax is legitimised theft.

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@challenge me

"and theres nothing wrong with cousin marriages.it is proven FACT.”

I agree that there is nothing wrong with cousin marriages, unless they are going to have children, that is.

Thats when the problems occur.

Have you not heard about genetic disorders ?
These are more common when close relatives have children as the gene pool is restricted and there is a greater chance of both parents having a copy of the faulty gene. Pakistanis and Bangladeshis seem to have a lot of first cousin marriages and as a consequence of this, they go on to have a lot of children born with hereditary physical and neurological conditions.

The Jews have realised that cousins marrying and having childen together is causing them to have a disproportionately high level of children with inherited medical problems so they have started screening themselves before marriage in order to try to eliminate these preventable disorders.

If you are prepared to listen to reason and are not going to dismiss this as it is against what your culture says, then you can read about it here :

http://www.jewishgen
etics.org/?q=content
/what-are-jewish-gen
etic-disorders

Sajdin mentions that he works in the NHS so he can probably convince you, if you dont believe me or the evidence from the jewish organisation.

@challenge me

"and theres nothing wrong with cousin marriages.it is proven FACT.”

I agree that there is nothing wrong with cousin marriages, unless they are going to have children, that is.

Thats when the problems occur.

Have you not heard about genetic disorders ?
These are more common when close relatives have children as the gene pool is restricted and there is a greater chance of both parents having a copy of the faulty gene. Pakistanis and Bangladeshis seem to have a lot of first cousin marriages and as a consequence of this, they go on to have a lot of children born with hereditary physical and neurological conditions.

The Jews have realised that cousins marrying and having childen together is causing them to have a disproportionately high level of children with inherited medical problems so they have started screening themselves before marriage in order to try to eliminate these preventable disorders.

If you are prepared to listen to reason and are not going to dismiss this as it is against what your culture says, then you can read about it here :

http://www.jewishgen
etics.org/?q=content
/what-are-jewish-gen
etic-disorders

Sajdin mentions that he works in the NHS so he can probably convince you, if you dont believe me or the evidence from the jewish organisation.

The LET must have thought that my comment was so good that they decided to put it on twice, in case someone reading it was a bit hard of thinking :)

challenge me wrote:

jack daniels wrote:

Sajdin wrote:

laureneverett86@hotm



ail.co.uk wrote:

Sajdin wrote:
I cant believe the lot of you are moaning about a reduction of £25 per month ! my lord grow up, its about time this government saved money from handouts, and rewarded the people who work all they lives. I work full time and get hardly anything from the government, so any reduction towards them, is perfect ! Go out and get a friggin job. This reduction is for individuals at working age, yes WORKING !

But you all keep piling into our country so you can claim our benefits or take our jobs. even have inbred children for the extra disability allowance

How did I pile into your country? I was born in Burnley, bought up and educated in Pendle, now work within the NHS and pay my due. You an uneducated twit. And clearly stupid for having your email address as your username !

Stupid or brave....

You failed to mention anything about you being inbred so I can only assume she got that right. Working at the hospital you'll know all about cousin marriages and the cost to social services and the pct.

Hi 6's anyone?

You are the stupid racist one ! at least the cousin marriages know who their father is unlike some.

and theres nothing wrong with cousin marriages.it is proven FACT.

That's a blatant lie. There is a massive genetic problem with cousin marriages and that is the proven fact here, not the airy-fairy nonsense you'd like it to be.

I wouldn't get into battle on this one because you've already lost but you'll be pounded into the ground with actual figures on this if you think of carrying on your laughable crusade.

challenge me wrote:

jack daniels wrote:

Sajdin wrote:

laureneverett86@hotm ail.co.uk wrote:

Sajdin wrote: I cant believe the lot of you are moaning about a reduction of £25 per month ! my lord grow up, its about time this government saved money from handouts, and rewarded the people who work all they lives. I work full time and get hardly anything from the government, so any reduction towards them, is perfect ! Go out and get a friggin job. This reduction is for individuals at working age, yes WORKING !

But you all keep piling into our country so you can claim our benefits or take our jobs. even have inbred children for the extra disability allowance

How did I pile into your country? I was born in Burnley, bought up and educated in Pendle, now work within the NHS and pay my due. You an uneducated twit. And clearly stupid for having your email address as your username !

Stupid or brave.... You failed to mention anything about you being inbred so I can only assume she got that right. Working at the hospital you'll know all about cousin marriages and the cost to social services and the pct. Hi 6's anyone?

You are the stupid racist one ! at least the cousin marriages know who their father is unlike some. and theres nothing wrong with cousin marriages.it is proven FACT.

hello and welcome.

I hope you have a nice time on this site and feel free to comment as you feel fit. Please be aware however that calling somebody a racist for highlighting the truth can lead to counter comments.

For example:

There are a number of stories printed by the media that mention an increase in disabilities due to cousin marriages within the Bangladeshi, Pakistani and Indian communities. This is a fact which was highlighted by the BBC a few years ago.

Your comment about "at least the cousin marriages know who their father is unlike some" is far more racist than mine and suggests that you have issues regarding some elements of British culture.

nonjob wrote:
Council tax went up by 70% under Blair/Brown. Was there a 70% rise in quantity or quality of services? No. But there was a huge increase of feckless parasites, busy doing nothing in the public sector on very generous salaries. We are taxed enough in this country. Council tax is legitimised theft. w w w.nonjob.tumblr.com

non-n0b

You really should stick to the 25 numbskulls on your pathetic twitter site rather than here.

I was outside the town hall on Friday watching a whole series of Blackburn residents who required assistance.

I am sure they got the professional help and advice they needed (whether it was good news or bad); that they felt that at least the person on the other end of the phone or desk knew what they where doing and that some progress may be had towards resolving a significant problem they have in their lives.

These ‘parasites’ are helping other people who are in a difficult situation. They are helping the old; the disabled; the vulnerable.

Your comments, like your useless twitter site and the retards in the government, are doing nothing.

jack daniels wrote:

challenge me wrote:

jack daniels wrote:

Sajdin wrote:

laureneverett86@hotm ail.co.uk wrote:

Sajdin wrote: I cant believe the lot of you are moaning about a reduction of £25 per month ! my lord grow up, its about time this government saved money from handouts, and rewarded the people who work all they lives. I work full time and get hardly anything from the government, so any reduction towards them, is perfect ! Go out and get a friggin job. This reduction is for individuals at working age, yes WORKING !

But you all keep piling into our country so you can claim our benefits or take our jobs. even have inbred children for the extra disability allowance

How did I pile into your country? I was born in Burnley, bought up and educated in Pendle, now work within the NHS and pay my due. You an uneducated twit. And clearly stupid for having your email address as your username !

Stupid or brave.... You failed to mention anything about you being inbred so I can only assume she got that right. Working at the hospital you'll know all about cousin marriages and the cost to social services and the pct. Hi 6's anyone?

You are the stupid racist one ! at least the cousin marriages know who their father is unlike some. and theres nothing wrong with cousin marriages.it is proven FACT.

hello and welcome.

I hope you have a nice time on this site and feel free to comment as you feel fit. Please be aware however that calling somebody a racist for highlighting the truth can lead to counter comments.

For example:

There are a number of stories printed by the media that mention an increase in disabilities due to cousin marriages within the Bangladeshi, Pakistani and Indian communities. This is a fact which was highlighted by the BBC a few years ago.

Your comment about "at least the cousin marriages know who their father is unlike some" is far more racist than mine and suggests that you have issues regarding some elements of British culture.

When you quote 'Indian', what religion are you referring to?

because I am an indian and my wife is oriental!

Michael@ClitheroeSin
ce58 wrote:

workaholic wrote: W T F is going on on this site ? Same old people spouting rubbish - that in most cases has nothing to do do with the subject matter - This is a comments column not a forum!

I have to agree with you, I like a bit of a laugh my self but this is getting out of hand. It would be better if we could send instant messages to each other that way the banter would still be fun without spoiling the comments. I think to a lot of us it has become like a forum. Now how many people this upsets I would like to know, maybe a vote is needed?

good point Michael.

I realised a bit back that I was usually going round in circles with some people as we will never see eye to eye. Sen c ble and I have stopped quoting each other for this exact reason (so far so good) and as soon as that a$$-hole no- n0b stops calling council staff parasites, I'll ignore that fu*ktard too.

It might not be the best place for this stuff but at least we are communicating - and that's got to be something!

sen c ble wrote:

jack daniels wrote:

challenge me wrote:

jack daniels wrote:

Sajdin wrote:

laureneverett86@hotm ail.co.uk wrote:

Sajdin wrote: I cant believe the lot of you are moaning about a reduction of £25 per month ! my lord grow up, its about time this government saved money from handouts, and rewarded the people who work all they lives. I work full time and get hardly anything from the government, so any reduction towards them, is perfect ! Go out and get a friggin job. This reduction is for individuals at working age, yes WORKING !

But you all keep piling into our country so you can claim our benefits or take our jobs. even have inbred children for the extra disability allowance

How did I pile into your country? I was born in Burnley, bought up and educated in Pendle, now work within the NHS and pay my due. You an uneducated twit. And clearly stupid for having your email address as your username !

Stupid or brave.... You failed to mention anything about you being inbred so I can only assume she got that right. Working at the hospital you'll know all about cousin marriages and the cost to social services and the pct. Hi 6's anyone?

You are the stupid racist one ! at least the cousin marriages know who their father is unlike some. and theres nothing wrong with cousin marriages.it is proven FACT.

hello and welcome. I hope you have a nice time on this site and feel free to comment as you feel fit. Please be aware however that calling somebody a racist for highlighting the truth can lead to counter comments. For example: There are a number of stories printed by the media that mention an increase in disabilities due to cousin marriages within the Bangladeshi, Pakistani and Indian communities. This is a fact which was highlighted by the BBC a few years ago. Your comment about "at least the cousin marriages know who their father is unlike some" is far more racist than mine and suggests that you have issues regarding some elements of British culture.

When you quote 'Indian', what religion are you referring to? because I am an indian and my wife is oriental!

Noooooo.

Why are you quoting me. I thought we had an agreement?

I wasn't even talking to you so we don't clog up the site.

jack daniels wrote:

sen c ble wrote:

jack daniels wrote:

challenge me wrote:

jack daniels wrote:

Sajdin wrote:

laureneverett86@hotm ail.co.uk wrote:

Sajdin wrote: I cant believe the lot of you are moaning about a reduction of £25 per month ! my lord grow up, its about time this government saved money from handouts, and rewarded the people who work all they lives. I work full time and get hardly anything from the government, so any reduction towards them, is perfect ! Go out and get a friggin job. This reduction is for individuals at working age, yes WORKING !

But you all keep piling into our country so you can claim our benefits or take our jobs. even have inbred children for the extra disability allowance

How did I pile into your country? I was born in Burnley, bought up and educated in Pendle, now work within the NHS and pay my due. You an uneducated twit. And clearly stupid for having your email address as your username !

Stupid or brave.... You failed to mention anything about you being inbred so I can only assume she got that right. Working at the hospital you'll know all about cousin marriages and the cost to social services and the pct. Hi 6's anyone?

You are the stupid racist one ! at least the cousin marriages know who their father is unlike some. and theres nothing wrong with cousin marriages.it is proven FACT.

hello and welcome. I hope you have a nice time on this site and feel free to comment as you feel fit. Please be aware however that calling somebody a racist for highlighting the truth can lead to counter comments. For example: There are a number of stories printed by the media that mention an increase in disabilities due to cousin marriages within the Bangladeshi, Pakistani and Indian communities. This is a fact which was highlighted by the BBC a few years ago. Your comment about "at least the cousin marriages know who their father is unlike some" is far more racist than mine and suggests that you have issues regarding some elements of British culture.

When you quote 'Indian', what religion are you referring to? because I am an indian and my wife is oriental!

Noooooo.

Why are you quoting me. I thought we had an agreement?

I wasn't even talking to you so we don't clog up the site.

I like breaking agreements!

Please be a bit more specific when commenting thus avoiding confusion.

Now that didn't hurt, did it!

jack daniels wrote:
Having so many poor people from places such as India, Pakistan and Bangladesh puts a huge burden on the services provided by the council.

Cut down on the massive families, poor diet and reluctance to learn the language of where you now live and there wouldn't need to be an increase.

As you seem to be so righteous about quoting facts. The white population in Blackburn is a bigger drain on resources than the Asian one. The burden we carry is generated by our 'own' people.

Don't let facts get in the way of making ignorant racist statements though..

jack daniels wrote:
Todays observer stated that the Tories are even going to cut benefits from people that work part time. What a clueless bunch of Feckwits these Tories are.

The Coalition (it's not just the Conservative party) are having to introduce these measures to reduce the burden on tax-paying society before the country goes bankrupt. They did not create this situation, it was created by reckless spending by their predecessors, the Labour Party.

But don't let facts get in the way of you making unproven statements..

Moonman wrote:

jack daniels wrote: Todays observer stated that the Tories are even going to cut benefits from people that work part time. What a clueless bunch of Feckwits these Tories are.

The Coalition (it's not just the Conservative party) are having to introduce these measures to reduce the burden on tax-paying society before the country goes bankrupt. They did not create this situation, it was created by reckless spending by their predecessors, the Labour Party. But don't let facts get in the way of you making unproven statements..

actually, it was created by the collapse of the global banking mechanism, which is why so many countries around the world are in a financial mess.

But don't let a few facts get in the way of your blinkered statements.

@ sen-c-ble

Breaking agreements?

Going back on your word?

I’d expect nothing less from tiny toggered Indian.

I suppose it explains why a British Company was able to easily manipulate your whole nation.

The banking crisis contributed to it, however if the Labour Government hadn't made it so easy for people to claim benefits (welfare costs increased by 70% during the Labour Government 1996-2009), the Coalition wouldn't have to be looking at measures like this now. Hence why they did not create the problem, they are merely trying to reign in public spending.

Read up on the subject before you start spouting drivel on here.

Moonman wrote:

jack daniels wrote: Having so many poor people from places such as India, Pakistan and Bangladesh puts a huge burden on the services provided by the council. Cut down on the massive families, poor diet and reluctance to learn the language of where you now live and there wouldn't need to be an increase.

As you seem to be so righteous about quoting facts. The white population in Blackburn is a bigger drain on resources than the Asian one. The burden we carry is generated by our 'own' people. Don't let facts get in the way of making ignorant racist statements though..

which part is racist?

Big families - true
poor diet - true - massive type two diabetes problem
reluctance to learn language - true

The burden you bring costs the NHS and the council millions.

Can you actually prove that "The white population in Blackburn is a bigger drain on resources than the Asian one" or are you just another bitter and twisted lunatic that has come to have a go?

jack daniels wrote:
@ sen-c-ble

Breaking agreements?

Going back on your word?

I’d expect nothing less from tiny toggered Indian.

I suppose it explains why a British Company was able to easily manipulate your whole nation.

What's your problem?

Apologies if I gave your missi one, but what would you expect, she *kin came at me half undressed!

Moonman wrote:
The banking crisis contributed to it, however if the Labour Government hadn't made it so easy for people to claim benefits (welfare costs increased by 70% during the Labour Government 1996-2009), the Coalition wouldn't have to be looking at measures like this now. Hence why they did not create the problem, they are merely trying to reign in public spending. Read up on the subject before you start spouting drivel on here.

"The banking crisis contributed to it," - so clearly I do know what I'm talking about and you've supported my argument.

The liebour government had to spend money to solve the problems of the previous tory party, which is why they increased the funding for the police, teaching and the NHS - which are again being cut by your ConDem chums.

If you spent more time reading about this, rather than cutting and pasting from the Daily Mail website, you'd know this already....

jack daniels wrote:

Moonman wrote:

jack daniels wrote: Having so many poor people from places such as India, Pakistan and Bangladesh puts a huge burden on the services provided by the council. Cut down on the massive families, poor diet and reluctance to learn the language of where you now live and there wouldn't need to be an increase.

As you seem to be so righteous about quoting facts. The white population in Blackburn is a bigger drain on resources than the Asian one. The burden we carry is generated by our 'own' people. Don't let facts get in the way of making ignorant racist statements though..

which part is racist?

Big families - true
poor diet - true - massive type two diabetes problem
reluctance to learn language - true

The burden you bring costs the NHS and the council millions.

Can you actually prove that "The white population in Blackburn is a bigger drain on resources than the Asian one" or are you just another bitter and twisted lunatic that has come to have a go?

All of the things you have said can also be said about the white population of Blackburn, and indeed the Eastern European community too, but you seem to have singled out a certain ethnic gender. That would suggest racism in most peoples books.

Yes I can prove it. Can you prove otherwise? Or are you just going on what you read in one of the red-tops. Put in an FOI request to the council and you will see that I am correct.

jack daniels wrote:

Moonman wrote:
The banking crisis contributed to it, however if the Labour Government hadn't made it so easy for people to claim benefits (welfare costs increased by 70% during the Labour Government 1996-2009), the Coalition wouldn't have to be looking at measures like this now. Hence why they did not create the problem, they are merely trying to reign in public spending. Read up on the subject before you start spouting drivel on here.

"The banking crisis contributed to it," - so clearly I do know what I'm talking about and you've supported my argument.

The liebour government had to spend money to solve the problems of the previous tory party, which is why they increased the funding for the police, teaching and the NHS - which are again being cut by your ConDem chums.

If you spent more time reading about this, rather than cutting and pasting from the Daily Mail website, you'd know this already....

Hardly, you don't even know who's in government.

"Todays observer stated that the Tories are even going to cut benefits from people that work part time. What a clueless bunch of Feckwits these Tories are.

@moonman

Actually I can. I can use cencus data from 2002 to prove that every asian area in Blackburn is very poor, that the schools in said areas do poorly because of the poverty and language barriers created by the immigrants place of birth and there is evidence from the BBC, the Independent and the guardian that proves that cousin marriages and poor diet are causing health issues.

Just the basic facts, it's not my problem you can't stomach it.

Moonman wrote:

jack daniels wrote:

Moonman wrote: The banking crisis contributed to it, however if the Labour Government hadn't made it so easy for people to claim benefits (welfare costs increased by 70% during the Labour Government 1996-2009), the Coalition wouldn't have to be looking at measures like this now. Hence why they did not create the problem, they are merely trying to reign in public spending. Read up on the subject before you start spouting drivel on here.

"The banking crisis contributed to it," - so clearly I do know what I'm talking about and you've supported my argument. The liebour government had to spend money to solve the problems of the previous tory party, which is why they increased the funding for the police, teaching and the NHS - which are again being cut by your ConDem chums. If you spent more time reading about this, rather than cutting and pasting from the Daily Mail website, you'd know this already....

Hardly, you don't even know who's in government. "Todays observer stated that the Tories are even going to cut benefits from people that work part time. What a clueless bunch of Feckwits these Tories are.

Is that it?

Out of the whole comment - that's the best you can do?

You need to come back when you've had a bit more practice.

sen c ble wrote:

jack daniels wrote: @ sen-c-ble Breaking agreements? Going back on your word? I’d expect nothing less from tiny toggered Indian. I suppose it explains why a British Company was able to easily manipulate your whole nation.

What's your problem? Apologies if I gave your missi one, but what would you expect, she *kin came at me half undressed!

well you keep wasting your time and filling up the comments sections with your stupidity.

Me, I'm gonna keep ignoring you because - lets be honest - you have no word and no honour and a man without word or honour is worthless.

jack daniels wrote:

sen c ble wrote:

jack daniels wrote: @ sen-c-ble Breaking agreements? Going back on your word? I’d expect nothing less from tiny toggered Indian. I suppose it explains why a British Company was able to easily manipulate your whole nation.

What's your problem? Apologies if I gave your missi one, but what would you expect, she *kin came at me half undressed!

well you keep wasting your time and filling up the comments sections with your stupidity.

Me, I'm gonna keep ignoring you because - lets be honest - you have no word and no honour and a man without word or honour is worthless.

Well go away posting comments in reply. We had no agreement you pint size puppet. It's just one excuse for you to practice your insults that you so highly hold in your little cret mind. These do not at the slightest worry me.
Now back to the agreement bit, where and when?

jack daniels wrote:
@moonman

Actually I can. I can use cencus data from 2002 to prove that every asian area in Blackburn is very poor, that the schools in said areas do poorly because of the poverty and language barriers created by the immigrants place of birth and there is evidence from the BBC, the Independent and the guardian that proves that cousin marriages and poor diet are causing health issues.

Just the basic facts, it's not my problem you can't stomach it.

And using the census data that you hold so dear, you will find that there are 'white' areas of Blackburn that have higher levels of poverty, higher levels or truancy and higher levels of benefits claimants but yet again you fail to balance your argument and continue to say that this is a race issue.

That to me suggests that you are racist.

jack daniels wrote:

Moonman wrote:

jack daniels wrote:

Moonman wrote: The banking crisis contributed to it, however if the Labour Government hadn't made it so easy for people to claim benefits (welfare costs increased by 70% during the Labour Government 1996-2009), the Coalition wouldn't have to be looking at measures like this now. Hence why they did not create the problem, they are merely trying to reign in public spending. Read up on the subject before you start spouting drivel on here.

"The banking crisis contributed to it," - so clearly I do know what I'm talking about and you've supported my argument. The liebour government had to spend money to solve the problems of the previous tory party, which is why they increased the funding for the police, teaching and the NHS - which are again being cut by your ConDem chums. If you spent more time reading about this, rather than cutting and pasting from the Daily Mail website, you'd know this already....

Hardly, you don't even know who's in government. "Todays observer stated that the Tories are even going to cut benefits from people that work part time. What a clueless bunch of Feckwits these Tories are.

Is that it?

Out of the whole comment - that's the best you can do?

You need to come back when you've had a bit more practice.

A bit more practice at what? Using unbalanced facts to support my tenuous assumptions that asians are the root of what is wrong with this country, showing an ignorance of who is in power, being unable to form a reasonable response without resorting to name-calling?

Nah, it's fine, you're doing a fine job of that yourself.

Moonman wrote:
jack daniels wrote: Moonman wrote: jack daniels wrote: Moonman wrote: The banking crisis contributed to it, however if the Labour Government hadn't made it so easy for people to claim benefits (welfare costs increased by 70% during the Labour Government 1996-2009), the Coalition wouldn't have to be looking at measures like this now. Hence why they did not create the problem, they are merely trying to reign in public spending. Read up on the subject before you start spouting drivel on here."The banking crisis contributed to it,@moonman

Don't come crying to me because you just got your knickers in a twist.

I never said that they where "the root of what is wrong with this country". Are you now having to make things up to try to prove your point? You are the one that's made unfounded comments and then asked me to find YOUR evidence (Put in an FOI request to the council and you will see that I am correct)!

Is that becasue you don't have the ability to research this yourself or maybe If you where speaking the truth you would already have this at hand...

sen c ble wrote:

jack daniels wrote:

sen c ble wrote:

jack daniels wrote: @ sen-c-ble Breaking agreements? Going back on your word? I’d expect nothing less from tiny toggered Indian. I suppose it explains why a British Company was able to easily manipulate your whole nation.

What's your problem? Apologies if I gave your missi one, but what would you expect, she *kin came at me half undressed!

well you keep wasting your time and filling up the comments sections with your stupidity. Me, I'm gonna keep ignoring you because - lets be honest - you have no word and no honour and a man without word or honour is worthless.

Well go away posting comments in reply. We had no agreement you pint size puppet. It's just one excuse for you to practice your insults that you so highly hold in your little cret mind. These do not at the slightest worry me. Now back to the agreement bit, where and when?

I recall it was last month during one of our tedious arguments. We both agreed and for the last 4 weeks, this website has been the better for it.

Shame you had to give back on your word but like I said, I expect nothing less from an asian.

@ jack daniels

Ah, Jack, resident halfwit of the Telegraph comments section - i was wondering when you would show up.

It is clear to all, that the old maxim "empty vessels make most noise" is very true.

You continuously pi**ing over the comments section with the malformed drivel that bubbles up of your stunted intellect, is such an ugly thing to behold.

Stop being a burden on hard-working tax payers, jack. Get a job.

Your self respect would come back and the good readers of the Lancs Telegraph would be relieved to see less of your odious, small-minded, quasi-socialist vomit upon these fine boards.

Your friend, James Nonjob.

w w w.nonjob.tumblr.com

Moonman wrote:

jack daniels wrote: @moonman Actually I can. I can use cencus data from 2002 to prove that every asian area in Blackburn is very poor, that the schools in said areas do poorly because of the poverty and language barriers created by the immigrants place of birth and there is evidence from the BBC, the Independent and the guardian that proves that cousin marriages and poor diet are causing health issues. Just the basic facts, it's not my problem you can't stomach it.

And using the census data that you hold so dear, you will find that there are 'white' areas of Blackburn that have higher levels of poverty, higher levels or truancy and higher levels of benefits claimants but yet again you fail to balance your argument and continue to say that this is a race issue. That to me suggests that you are racist.

Not sure how the white areas of Blackburn have additional learning needs because they speak Urdu. Please could you explain this for me?

Not sure how the white areas of Blackburn have siginifcant support needs because of disabilites due to cousin marriages. Please could you explain this for me?

Not sure how the white areas of Blackburn have additional financial needs because they have come from poor areas of Bangladesh, India and Pakistan. Please could you explain this for me?

The fact you refuse to aknowledge this suggest you are reluctant to admit the truth.

nonjob wrote:
@ jack daniels Ah, Jack, resident halfwit of the Telegraph comments section - i was wondering when you would show up. It is clear to all, that the old maxim "empty vessels make most noise" is very true. You continuously pi**ing over the comments section with the malformed drivel that bubbles up of your stunted intellect, is such an ugly thing to behold. Stop being a burden on hard-working tax payers, jack. Get a job. Your self respect would come back and the good readers of the Lancs Telegraph would be relieved to see less of your odious, small-minded, quasi-socialist vomit upon these fine boards. Your friend, James Nonjob. w w w.nonjob.tumblr.com

hey no-n0b.

does it bother you that all your effort results in 25 twitter followers? I think the venky's chicken has more than that.

To think - that your lifes work is meaningless....

round and round and round we go.... how many comments - nobody knows

moonman - it's been fun.
sense - you ignore me, I'll ignore you.
nonjob - stop calling council staff parasites and i'll treating you like a piece of $hit.

jack daniels wrote:
round and round and round we go.... how many comments - nobody knows moonman - it's been fun. sense - you ignore me, I'll ignore you. nonjob - stop calling council staff parasites and i'll treating you like a piece of $hit.

sorry

and i'll *stop treating you like a piece of $hit.

Lets go back to the beginning shall we...you said:

Having so many poor people from places such as India, Pakistan and Bangladesh puts a huge burden on the services provided by the council. Cut down on the massive families, poor diet and reluctance to learn the language of where you now live and there wouldn't need to be an increase.

All of the information that you need to digest to understand why I disagree with your unbalanced statement can be found on here.

http://www.blackburn
.gov.uk/server.php?s
how=ConWebDoc.41869

Through my work, I can tell you that of the 18k benefits applicants that live in this borough, the majority of them are of a 'white' background. Hence why I said your statement was racist.

Poor diet is a problem across the borough, not just within certain sections of the community. You only need to see the size & demographic of the queues outside Greggs & McDonalds at any lunch-time to know that.

There are huge families on the Shadsworth estate and most other white council estates - again, I'd question why you have singled out the Asians unless you are just trying to be provocative.

The reason I mentioned that there were high levels of truancy in our most deprived areas is that you suggested that there was a reluctance to learn the language in the asian community. The majority of asians that I know speak very good english and it tends to be the elders that have struggled - no different to an english person going to a foreign country. There is also a 'reluctance to learn' in our own society.

Like I've said a couple of times already, if you present a balanced point of view, rather than focusing on a specific section of our borough, I'd maybe have a little bit of respect for your views; but as you just want to spout uneducated, unbalanced opinions and seem quite happy to shoot other people down for questioning what you have said, I see you nothing more than a pathetic ignorant little troll.

And it's not been fun, trying to reason with bigots tends to be hard work.

Moonman says: "Through my work, I can tell you that of the 18k benefits applicants that live in this borough, the majority of them are of a 'white' background. Hence why I said your statement was racist."

This is generally true where i live also. One family of immigrants started up no less than 4 separate businesses in two years, and now employ about 50 people.

If this country were ever to become a low tax nation, and stop giving hand-outs to people, my belief is that most of the immigrants would be OK. They generally have a work ethic and close family ties to support them in difficult times.

The people who would be all at sea, would be the generations of benefit-dependents that are already here. Their misplaced sense of entitlement would be their downfall.

This includes all the dead-wood in the public sector, who would not cope in the real world, as well as parasitical chav trash like resident halfwit, jack daniels.

jack daniels wrote:

sen c ble wrote:

jack daniels wrote:

sen c ble wrote:

jack daniels wrote: @ sen-c-ble Breaking agreements? Going back on your word? I’d expect nothing less from tiny toggered Indian. I suppose it explains why a British Company was able to easily manipulate your whole nation.

What's your problem? Apologies if I gave your missi one, but what would you expect, she *kin came at me half undressed!

well you keep wasting your time and filling up the comments sections with your stupidity. Me, I'm gonna keep ignoring you because - lets be honest - you have no word and no honour and a man without word or honour is worthless.

Well go away posting comments in reply. We had no agreement you pint size puppet. It's just one excuse for you to practice your insults that you so highly hold in your little cret mind. These do not at the slightest worry me. Now back to the agreement bit, where and when?

I recall it was last month during one of our tedious arguments. We both agreed and for the last 4 weeks, this website has been the better for it.

Shame you had to give back on your word but like I said, I expect nothing less from an asian.

You're the only idiot I know who's signed on the dotted line as a proposer and a recipient, typical. Stick your agreement up your larger than normal pant's hole. I will continue to slap your teeth when and how I feel appropriate, but you don't forget not to reply to my smacking comments, or otherwise your missis will continue to get the 6'er!

Ok. Just for you – cuz I like you

The information on this is a little old. Blackburn is now in the top ten most deprived out of the 354 local authorities in England.

You said –

“Through my work, I can tell you that of the 18k benefits applicants that live in this borough, the majority of them are of a 'white' background. Hence why I said your statement was racist.”

I say -
Now saying that the Asian community (meaning India, Bangladesh and Pakistan for this exercise) only makes up about 30% of the population, it’s no surprise that the majority of them are of a white back ground.

Of the Wards on the website that saw the highest proportions of children living in poverty were: –

Shadsworth with Whitebirk (48.1%)
Audley (41.5%)
Wensley Fold (40.7%)
Sudell (38.9%)
Bastwell (37.2%)
Half of the above areas have an exceptionally high percentage of residents from an Asian back ground. Surely you have to agree that having a population of only 30% asian heritage yet living in 3 of the 6 most impoverished strongly supports my comment.

You said –

“Poor diet is a problem across the borough, not just within certain sections of the community. You only need to see the size & demographic of the queues outside Greggs & McDonalds at any lunch-time to know that.”


I say

BBC website Wednesday, 3 December 2008

People from South Asia are six times more likely to develop Type 2 diabetes than the white members of the UK population, and they are likely to develop it ten years earlier. Dr Gujral said she found the figures "shocking".
She attributed the problem to a lack of exercise amongst members of the community, as well as a diet which is high in fat.

You say
“There are huge families on the Shadsworth estate and most other white council estates - again, I'd question why you have singled out the Asians unless you are just trying to be provocative.”

I say
There is however a clear difference between the ‘2.4 children’ of the indigenous population and the larger families of the Asian community who don’t use contraception.

You say
The majority of asians that I know speak very good english and it tends to be the elders that have struggled - no different to an english person going to a foreign country. There is also a 'reluctance to learn' in our own society.

I say
Now the first part of this sentence is opinion but I can equally state that there are many older imigrants and newly married that have not or will not learn the language. This is in part because of the ‘ghetto’ situation that has developed over the last 50 years.
We can also add

BBC News - NHS translation bill tops £23m, says 2020 Health

The NHS in England spends £59,000 a day on translating documents and providing interpreters, according to a health think tank.
A Freedom of Information request by 2020 Health showed the total bill topped £23m last year - an increase of 17% since 2007

There’s also evidence that schools where the children have English as a second language find it harder to learn and cost more. If you really want this proof, I’ll have to find it later.

Fun huh?

nonjob wrote:
Moonman says: "Through my work, I can tell you that of the 18k benefits applicants that live in this borough, the majority of them are of a 'white' background. Hence why I said your statement was racist." This is generally true where i live also. One family of immigrants started up no less than 4 separate businesses in two years, and now employ about 50 people. If this country were ever to become a low tax nation, and stop giving hand-outs to people, my belief is that most of the immigrants would be OK. They generally have a work ethic and close family ties to support them in difficult times. The people who would be all at sea, would be the generations of benefit-dependents that are already here. Their misplaced sense of entitlement would be their downfall. This includes all the dead-wood in the public sector, who would not cope in the real world, as well as parasitical chav trash like resident halfwit, jack daniels.

would this be the same parasite public sector workers that have made a difference to people lives today?

What have you done nonn0b?

sen c ble wrote:

jack daniels wrote:

sen c ble wrote:

jack daniels wrote:

sen c ble wrote:

jack daniels wrote: @ sen-c-ble Breaking agreements? Going back on your word? I’d expect nothing less from tiny toggered Indian. I suppose it explains why a British Company was able to easily manipulate your whole nation.

What's your problem? Apologies if I gave your missi one, but what would you expect, she *kin came at me half undressed!

well you keep wasting your time and filling up the comments sections with your stupidity. Me, I'm gonna keep ignoring you because - lets be honest - you have no word and no honour and a man without word or honour is worthless.

Well go away posting comments in reply. We had no agreement you pint size puppet. It's just one excuse for you to practice your insults that you so highly hold in your little cret mind. These do not at the slightest worry me. Now back to the agreement bit, where and when?

I recall it was last month during one of our tedious arguments. We both agreed and for the last 4 weeks, this website has been the better for it. Shame you had to give back on your word but like I said, I expect nothing less from an asian.

You're the only idiot I know who's signed on the dotted line as a proposer and a recipient, typical. Stick your agreement up your larger than normal pant's hole. I will continue to slap your teeth when and how I feel appropriate, but you don't forget not to reply to my smacking comments, or otherwise your missis will continue to get the 6'er!

BBC 8 December 2006
A survey of more than 1,000 men in India has concluded that condoms made according to international sizes are too large for a majority of Indian men.

THIS MEANS YOU!

X

jack daniels wrote:

sen c ble wrote:

jack daniels wrote:

sen c ble wrote:

jack daniels wrote:

sen c ble wrote:

jack daniels wrote: @ sen-c-ble Breaking agreements? Going back on your word? I’d expect nothing less from tiny toggered Indian. I suppose it explains why a British Company was able to easily manipulate your whole nation.

What's your problem? Apologies if I gave your missi one, but what would you expect, she *kin came at me half undressed!

well you keep wasting your time and filling up the comments sections with your stupidity. Me, I'm gonna keep ignoring you because - lets be honest - you have no word and no honour and a man without word or honour is worthless.

Well go away posting comments in reply. We had no agreement you pint size puppet. It's just one excuse for you to practice your insults that you so highly hold in your little cret mind. These do not at the slightest worry me. Now back to the agreement bit, where and when?

I recall it was last month during one of our tedious arguments. We both agreed and for the last 4 weeks, this website has been the better for it. Shame you had to give back on your word but like I said, I expect nothing less from an asian.

You're the only idiot I know who's signed on the dotted line as a proposer and a recipient, typical. Stick your agreement up your larger than normal pant's hole. I will continue to slap your teeth when and how I feel appropriate, but you don't forget not to reply to my smacking comments, or otherwise your missis will continue to get the 6'er!

BBC 8 December 2006
A survey of more than 1,000 men in India has concluded that condoms made according to international sizes are too large for a majority of Indian men.

THIS MEANS YOU!

X

I don't think so. you are referring to the slum population where most of the surveys and research are concluded, and I agree they are no taller than 5' 4''. I on the otherhand am 5' 10'' and originate from the north/east of the country. If I ever get the chance to meet you and whilst shaking my hand in greetings, (hope not) you will witness the size of my hands.
Ask your missis Durex for me is extremely tight, and so Mates is for me!!!

sen c ble wrote:

jack daniels wrote:

sen c ble wrote:

jack daniels wrote:

sen c ble wrote:

jack daniels wrote:

sen c ble wrote:

jack daniels wrote: @ sen-c-ble Breaking agreements? Going back on your word? I’d expect nothing less from tiny toggered Indian. I suppose it explains why a British Company was able to easily manipulate your whole nation.

What's your problem? Apologies if I gave your missi one, but what would you expect, she *kin came at me half undressed!

well you keep wasting your time and filling up the comments sections with your stupidity. Me, I'm gonna keep ignoring you because - lets be honest - you have no word and no honour and a man without word or honour is worthless.

Well go away posting comments in reply. We had no agreement you pint size puppet. It's just one excuse for you to practice your insults that you so highly hold in your little cret mind. These do not at the slightest worry me. Now back to the agreement bit, where and when?

I recall it was last month during one of our tedious arguments. We both agreed and for the last 4 weeks, this website has been the better for it. Shame you had to give back on your word but like I said, I expect nothing less from an asian.

You're the only idiot I know who's signed on the dotted line as a proposer and a recipient, typical. Stick your agreement up your larger than normal pant's hole. I will continue to slap your teeth when and how I feel appropriate, but you don't forget not to reply to my smacking comments, or otherwise your missis will continue to get the 6'er!

BBC 8 December 2006 A survey of more than 1,000 men in India has concluded that condoms made according to international sizes are too large for a majority of Indian men. THIS MEANS YOU! X

I don't think so. you are referring to the slum population where most of the surveys and research are concluded, and I agree they are no taller than 5' 4''. I on the otherhand am 5' 10'' and originate from the north/east of the country. If I ever get the chance to meet you and whilst shaking my hand in greetings, (hope not) you will witness the size of my hands. Ask your missis Durex for me is extremely tight, and so Mates is for me!!!

Get a room.

jack daniels: I look forward to the day the government take away all hand outs, and we'll see who goes out and protests about it.

Is the Asian population is such a drain, have you thought about the majority of UK White people who drink (yes amongst this the small minorty of "non-white" individuals) and the percentage who also cause a burden on the UK? but yet you don''t have a problem with alcohol? or do you?

OK, I’ll play, but only for a bit.

You said:

Now saying that the Asian community (meaning India, Bangladesh and Pakistan for this exercise) only makes up about 30% of the population, it’s no surprise that the majority of them are of a white back ground.

I say:

The population of Blackburn is as follows:

Ethnicity 77.3% White
20.4% S.Asian
1.2 Mixed
0.6% Black
0.5% E.Asian and Other

These figures have been taken from the council’s website. So the asian community takes up 20% rather than 30% of the community you suggest.

Out of a population of 147500 (2011 census), approximately 30000 are Asian.

You said:

Of the Wards on the website that saw the highest proportions of children living in poverty were: –

Shadsworth with Whitebirk (48.1%)
Audley (41.5%)
Wensley Fold (40.7%)
Sudell (38.9%)
Bastwell (37.2%)
Half of the above areas have an exceptionally high percentage of residents from an Asian back ground. Surely you have to agree that having a population of only 30% asian heritage yet living in 3 of the 6 most impoverished strongly supports my comment.

I say:

Lets have a look at those wards by working age:

Shadsworth - population of 4900, 40.4% are claiming DwP benefit which is 1980 residents.
Audley - population of 5100; 29.2% are claiming DwP benefit, which is 1489 residents
Wensley Fold – population of 4300, 37.8% are claiming DwP benefit which is 1625 residents
Sudell – population of 4100, 34.4% are claiming DwP benefit which is 1410 residents
Bastwell population 4700, 25.4% are claiming DwP benefits which is 1193 residents

2 out of the above wards would be classed as predominantly asian, the other 3 predominantly white. The two asian areas have the lowest proportion of working age residents claiming benefits. Still think that the asian community are more of a drain our society than some of our own? If you look at the stats further down where you got your information from on the council’s website:
“In 2010 Blackburn with Darwen was ranked as the 17th most deprived local authority in England (rank of average score). Eight small areas were classified as being in the most 1% deprived areas in England. These areas were found in the following wards:
• Wensley Fold
• Mill Hill
• Shadsworth with Whitebirk
• Queens Park”
Wensley Fold – already covered above
Mill Hill - population of 4100, 28.4% are claiming DwP benefit which is 1164 residents.
Shadsworth – already covered above
Queens Park – population of 3700, 27% are claiming DwP benefits which is 999 residents

1 out of 4 of these areas would be classed as Asian and yet again, the lowest proportion of benefits claimants is in the Asian area. Hopefully you are seeing the picture a bit clearer now.

You say

BBC website Wednesday, 3 December 2008

People from South Asia are six times more likely to develop Type 2 diabetes than the white members of the UK population, and they are likely to develop it ten years earlier. Dr Gujral said she found the figures "shocking".
She attributed the problem to a lack of exercise amongst members of the community, as well as a diet which is high in fat.

I say

This report from the BBC would suggest a different story. Type 2 diabetes is caused, in the main, by obesity. Northern Europeans are more likely to develop it than South Asian people and that trend is growing.

http://news.bbc.co.u
k/1/hi/health/716599
0.stm

With regards to health, do you know how many people get treated for alcohol-related illnesses? Far more than get treated for Type 2 diabetes. Alcohol-related illness is more of a drain on the NHS than diabetes and that is a predominately white problem.

Finally, you say:

BBC News - NHS translation bill tops £23m, says 2020 Health

The NHS in England spends £59,000 a day on translating documents and providing interpreters, according to a health think tank.
A Freedom of Information request by 2020 Health showed the total bill topped £23m last year - an increase of 17% since 2007


I say:

This report that starts off with:

“45% of Trusts could not break down the cost of written translation. “

And continues with:

“It is important to note that although the Trusts were not differentiated based on their size or the size of the population they serve, it is recognised that these factors have a bearing on the interpretation of the data.”

And then:

“It is also worth noting that two of the top spenders highlighted in Nick de Bois’ research - Barts and The London NHS Trust and Great Ormond Street Hospital – were non-responsive.”

And contains no reference to who these translation service were offered to, other than:

“Leaflets and other information are often translated into Eastern European languages such as Polish, Asian languages such as Hindi, and Mandarin”

So I am at a loss as to why you have offered this up as an example of how the Asian community is a drain on the NHS as it contains no references to suggest that and, at it’s own admission, it’s interpretation of the data is open to question.

What a waste of 20 minutes researching this on google. Play-time over

johnleo wrote:

sen c ble wrote:

jack daniels wrote:

sen c ble wrote:

jack daniels wrote:

sen c ble wrote:

jack daniels wrote:

sen c ble wrote:

jack daniels wrote: @ sen-c-ble Breaking agreements? Going back on your word? I’d expect nothing less from tiny toggered Indian. I suppose it explains why a British Company was able to easily manipulate your whole nation.

What's your problem? Apologies if I gave your missi one, but what would you expect, she *kin came at me half undressed!

well you keep wasting your time and filling up the comments sections with your stupidity. Me, I'm gonna keep ignoring you because - lets be honest - you have no word and no honour and a man without word or honour is worthless.

Well go away posting comments in reply. We had no agreement you pint size puppet. It's just one excuse for you to practice your insults that you so highly hold in your little cret mind. These do not at the slightest worry me. Now back to the agreement bit, where and when?

I recall it was last month during one of our tedious arguments. We both agreed and for the last 4 weeks, this website has been the better for it. Shame you had to give back on your word but like I said, I expect nothing less from an asian.

You're the only idiot I know who's signed on the dotted line as a proposer and a recipient, typical. Stick your agreement up your larger than normal pant's hole. I will continue to slap your teeth when and how I feel appropriate, but you don't forget not to reply to my smacking comments, or otherwise your missis will continue to get the 6'er!

BBC 8 December 2006 A survey of more than 1,000 men in India has concluded that condoms made according to international sizes are too large for a majority of Indian men. THIS MEANS YOU! X

I don't think so. you are referring to the slum population where most of the surveys and research are concluded, and I agree they are no taller than 5' 4''. I on the otherhand am 5' 10'' and originate from the north/east of the country. If I ever get the chance to meet you and whilst shaking my hand in greetings, (hope not) you will witness the size of my hands. Ask your missis Durex for me is extremely tight, and so Mates is for me!!!

Get a room.

Get a room! Who with Jacks missis.

What do u mean?

8l00dy h3ll Moonman, be gentle with old Jack. U have been busy!

I say no to any percentage of tax on the the sick , disabled, unemployed or the low paid, why on earth was social security, set up for in the first place,to aid people in need, the sick the poor, the vulnerable of our societies, It could well be your turn tomorrow, God forbid, you could become unemployed, sick, or severely. disabled, where would that leave you, most probably in dire straits, along with most other working/ middle, class families, whom have not managed to save nothing over the years for one reason or another, so think twice. whats more it is our money, that we have paid into the system and should rightly go to the needy in this Country.

@ moonman

Good stuff. Most people usually don’t bother with facts.

I have to say I can’t find the proof to the 30%. So I will have to yield.

You say

Lets have a look at those wards by working age:

Shadsworth - population of 4900, 40.4% are claiming DwP benefit which is 1980 residents.
Audley - population of 5100; 29.2% are claiming DwP benefit, which is 1489 residents
Wensley Fold – population of 4300, 37.8% are claiming DwP benefit which is 1625 residents
Sudell – population of 4100, 34.4% are claiming DwP benefit which is 1410 residents
Bastwell population 4700, 25.4% are claiming DwP benefits which is 1193 residents

2 out of the above wards would be classed as predominantly asian, the other 3 predominantly white. The two asian areas have the lowest proportion of working age residents claiming benefits. Still think that the asian community are more of a drain our society than some of our own? If you look at the stats further down where you got your information from on the council’s website:

I say

When we look at the information from 2001 regarding ‘economically inactive of a working age’ we see that the top 3 inactive wards with have above 50% Asian heritage. We also see that wards with a high percentage of Asian heritage are also high in 'inactivity', whilst areas with high percentage of white being at the bottom. There are no wards with ‘low inactivity’ with a significant asian population. This therefore supports my point about having so many poor people from places such as India, Pakistan and Bangladesh puts a huge burden on the services provided by the council

Audley 50.8% inactive – 54% asian
Bastwell 50.9% inactive – 75 asian
Shear brow 48% inactive – 70% asian
Queens Park 39% inactive – 39% asian
Wensley Fold 42% inactive – 27% asian
Little Harwood 36% inactive – 36% asian
Corporation Park 36% inactive -40% asian

Fernhurst 15.2% inactive – 1% asian

When we look at Jobseeker's Allowance Claimants by Ethnicity for oct 2010 to Sept 2011, we see

White 3030
Asian 1060

We see that it is over 25% of the claimants are Asian and not reflected in your population statistic of 20%; therefore suggesting that the asian population creates a greater strain on council financial resources.


You say

With regards to health, do you know how many people get treated for alcohol-related illnesses? Far more than get treated for Type 2 diabetes. Alcohol-related illness is more of a drain on the NHS than diabetes and that is a predominately white problem.

I say

Daily Mail 13th June 2010
"However, as prices are rising, the tax ‘take’ from alcohol actually fell by £730 million, from £15.1 billion in 2008 to £14.4 billion in 2009, according to the figures from HM Revenue and Customs and the Office for National Statistics".

£14.4 billion….

In 2008/09, it cost £110bn to run the NHS so it looks like people are paying for their services.

Mail on line -
"Alcohol abuse could be costing the UK up to £6 billion a year in NHS bills, premature death, losses to business and drink-related crimes and accidents, it was claimed today.
A study by the Royal College of Physicians said drink-related health problems could account for up to 12% of total NHS spending on hospitals, about £3 billion.
But campaigners said that with the estimated £3 billion lost through absenteeism, unemployment, premature deaths and alcohol-related crimes and accidents the total cost of excessive drinking is £6 billion"

Less than £14.4 billion then…


You finally question my reference to the NHS leaflet article, yes you make valid points about it not being a good example but it is an example non-the-less of the cost of information for people who don’t understand English. This, again, still causes problems in primary schools and requires extra funding by the LEA for teaching assistants and extra lessons.

I dont understand all this BENEFIT culture.

It should be simple - NO WORK NO PAY, NO PAY NO FOOD

laureneverett86@hotm
ail.co.uk wrote:

challenge me wrote:

jack daniels wrote:
Having so many poor people from places such as India, Pakistan and Bangladesh puts a huge burden on the services provided by the council.

Cut down on the massive families, poor diet and reluctance to learn the language of where you now live and there wouldn't need to be an increase.

shut up u old fool your racist inappropriate comments are not valid. do u never get bored.

Its not racist its the truth and its about time we stood up for ourselves and claimed our country back. freedom of speech not racism

then tell all the british white people to comeback home from spain and all around the sunny climates. and where they are poking there noses in middle east causing disruption. and then you can claim ur country back.got it.
and dont forget the queen invited the people to from asia or else this country would have gone down without the foreigners.

laureneverett86@hotm
ail.co.uk wrote:

challenge me wrote:

jack daniels wrote:
Having so many poor people from places such as India, Pakistan and Bangladesh puts a huge burden on the services provided by the council.

Cut down on the massive families, poor diet and reluctance to learn the language of where you now live and there wouldn't need to be an increase.

shut up u old fool your racist inappropriate comments are not valid. do u never get bored.

Its not racist its the truth and its about time we stood up for ourselves and claimed our country back. freedom of speech not racism

then tell all the british white people to comeback home from spain and all around the sunny climates. and where they are poking there noses in middle east causing disruption. and then you can claim ur country back.got it.
and dont forget the queen invited the people to from asia or else this country would have gone down without the foreigners.

Benjis mum wrote:
@challenge me

"and theres nothing wrong with cousin marriages.it is proven FACT.”

I agree that there is nothing wrong with cousin marriages, unless they are going to have children, that is.

Thats when the problems occur.

Have you not heard about genetic disorders ?
These are more common when close relatives have children as the gene pool is restricted and there is a greater chance of both parents having a copy of the faulty gene. Pakistanis and Bangladeshis seem to have a lot of first cousin marriages and as a consequence of this, they go on to have a lot of children born with hereditary physical and neurological conditions.

The Jews have realised that cousins marrying and having childen together is causing them to have a disproportionately high level of children with inherited medical problems so they have started screening themselves before marriage in order to try to eliminate these preventable disorders.

If you are prepared to listen to reason and are not going to dismiss this as it is against what your culture says, then you can read about it here :

http://www.jewishgen

etics.org/?q=content

/what-are-jewish-gen

etic-disorders

Sajdin mentions that he works in the NHS so he can probably convince you, if you dont believe me or the evidence from the jewish organisation.

What load of nonsence andd **** you have i know for a fact that in the familes i know have dont have any children that a disabled. in that way that are a fourth generation. a FACT.

the genetic disorder can happen to anyone what about all the english white kids that are born are they all perfect do they have no disabiltites the places are full of them they dont have cousin marraige.

GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT!!
do you research again . SCIENTIFICALY. im sure u can google.if you need help ill guide u.

Benjis mum wrote:
@challenge me

"and theres nothing wrong with cousin marriages.it is proven FACT.”

I agree that there is nothing wrong with cousin marriages, unless they are going to have children, that is.

Thats when the problems occur.

Have you not heard about genetic disorders ?
These are more common when close relatives have children as the gene pool is restricted and there is a greater chance of both parents having a copy of the faulty gene. Pakistanis and Bangladeshis seem to have a lot of first cousin marriages and as a consequence of this, they go on to have a lot of children born with hereditary physical and neurological conditions.

The Jews have realised that cousins marrying and having childen together is causing them to have a disproportionately high level of children with inherited medical problems so they have started screening themselves before marriage in order to try to eliminate these preventable disorders.

If you are prepared to listen to reason and are not going to dismiss this as it is against what your culture says, then you can read about it here :

http://www.jewishgen

etics.org/?q=content

/what-are-jewish-gen

etic-disorders

Sajdin mentions that he works in the NHS so he can probably convince you, if you dont believe me or the evidence from the jewish organisation.

What load of nonsence andd **** you have i know for a fact that in the familes i know have dont have any children that a disabled. in that way that are a fourth generation. a FACT.

the genetic disorder can happen to anyone what about all the english white kids that are born are they all perfect do they have no disabiltites the places are full of them they dont have cousin marraige.

GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT!!
do you research again . SCIENTIFICALY. im sure u can google.if you need help ill guide u.

Benjis mum wrote:
@challenge me

"and theres nothing wrong with cousin marriages.it is proven FACT.”

I agree that there is nothing wrong with cousin marriages, unless they are going to have children, that is.

Thats when the problems occur.

Have you not heard about genetic disorders ?
These are more common when close relatives have children as the gene pool is restricted and there is a greater chance of both parents having a copy of the faulty gene. Pakistanis and Bangladeshis seem to have a lot of first cousin marriages and as a consequence of this, they go on to have a lot of children born with hereditary physical and neurological conditions.

The Jews have realised that cousins marrying and having childen together is causing them to have a disproportionately high level of children with inherited medical problems so they have started screening themselves before marriage in order to try to eliminate these preventable disorders.

If you are prepared to listen to reason and are not going to dismiss this as it is against what your culture says, then you can read about it here :

http://www.jewishgen

etics.org/?q=content

/what-are-jewish-gen

etic-disorders

Sajdin mentions that he works in the NHS so he can probably convince you, if you dont believe me or the evidence from the jewish organisation.

What load of nonsence andd **** you have i know for a fact that in the familes i know have dont have any children that a disabled. in that way that are a fourth generation. a FACT.

the genetic disorder can happen to anyone what about all the english white kids that are born are they all perfect do they have no disabiltites the places are full of them they dont have cousin marraige.

GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT!!
do you research again . SCIENTIFICALY. im sure u can google.if you need help ill guide u.

jack daniels wrote:

challenge me wrote:

jack daniels wrote:

Sajdin wrote:

laureneverett86@hotm ail.co.uk wrote:

Sajdin wrote: I cant believe the lot of you are moaning about a reduction of £25 per month ! my lord grow up, its about time this government saved money from handouts, and rewarded the people who work all they lives. I work full time and get hardly anything from the government, so any reduction towards them, is perfect ! Go out and get a friggin job. This reduction is for individuals at working age, yes WORKING !

But you all keep piling into our country so you can claim our benefits or take our jobs. even have inbred children for the extra disability allowance

How did I pile into your country? I was born in Burnley, bought up and educated in Pendle, now work within the NHS and pay my due. You an uneducated twit. And clearly stupid for having your email address as your username !

Stupid or brave.... You failed to mention anything about you being inbred so I can only assume she got that right. Working at the hospital you'll know all about cousin marriages and the cost to social services and the pct. Hi 6's anyone?

You are the stupid racist one ! at least the cousin marriages know who their father is unlike some. and theres nothing wrong with cousin marriages.it is proven FACT.

hello and welcome.

I hope you have a nice time on this site and feel free to comment as you feel fit. Please be aware however that calling somebody a racist for highlighting the truth can lead to counter comments.

For example:

There are a number of stories printed by the media that mention an increase in disabilities due to cousin marriages within the Bangladeshi, Pakistani and Indian communities. This is a fact which was highlighted by the BBC a few years ago.

Your comment about "at least the cousin marriages know who their father is unlike some" is far more racist than mine and suggests that you have issues regarding some elements of British culture.

Its ll propaganda because you simply dont like asains and muslims. finding ways so they dont get married from back home for immigration purposes that is why bbc make programmes like this without any true facts.
so stop making fools of ur selves research scientifcally its a FACT.
And yes i do have an issue
about not knowing who the fathers is that is a big problems/ because the kids are effected in alot of ways when they grow older and resort to all sorts of drugs and other social mental problems lone parents are at highest increase cliaming benefits costing the tax payer millions.. u could end up having sex married to ur father or brother/sister. now that is a problem called incest not knowing who the father is.kids need both parents.

jack daniels wrote:

challenge me wrote:

jack daniels wrote:

Sajdin wrote:

laureneverett86@hotm ail.co.uk wrote:

Sajdin wrote: I cant believe the lot of you are moaning about a reduction of £25 per month ! my lord grow up, its about time this government saved money from handouts, and rewarded the people who work all they lives. I work full time and get hardly anything from the government, so any reduction towards them, is perfect ! Go out and get a friggin job. This reduction is for individuals at working age, yes WORKING !

But you all keep piling into our country so you can claim our benefits or take our jobs. even have inbred children for the extra disability allowance

How did I pile into your country? I was born in Burnley, bought up and educated in Pendle, now work within the NHS and pay my due. You an uneducated twit. And clearly stupid for having your email address as your username !

Stupid or brave.... You failed to mention anything about you being inbred so I can only assume she got that right. Working at the hospital you'll know all about cousin marriages and the cost to social services and the pct. Hi 6's anyone?

You are the stupid racist one ! at least the cousin marriages know who their father is unlike some. and theres nothing wrong with cousin marriages.it is proven FACT.

hello and welcome.

I hope you have a nice time on this site and feel free to comment as you feel fit. Please be aware however that calling somebody a racist for highlighting the truth can lead to counter comments.

For example:

There are a number of stories printed by the media that mention an increase in disabilities due to cousin marriages within the Bangladeshi, Pakistani and Indian communities. This is a fact which was highlighted by the BBC a few years ago.

Your comment about "at least the cousin marriages know who their father is unlike some" is far more racist than mine and suggests that you have issues regarding some elements of British culture.

Its ll propaganda because you simply dont like asains and muslims. finding ways so they dont get married from back home for immigration purposes that is why bbc make programmes like this without any true facts.
so stop making fools of ur selves research scientifcally its a FACT.
And yes i do have an issue
about not knowing who the fathers is that is a big problems/ because the kids are effected in alot of ways when they grow older and resort to all sorts of drugs and other social mental problems lone parents are at highest increase cliaming benefits costing the tax payer millions.. u could end up having sex married to ur father or brother/sister. now that is a problem called incest not knowing who the father is.kids need both parents.

jack daniels wrote:

challenge me wrote:

jack daniels wrote:

Sajdin wrote:

laureneverett86@hotm ail.co.uk wrote:

Sajdin wrote: I cant believe the lot of you are moaning about a reduction of £25 per month ! my lord grow up, its about time this government saved money from handouts, and rewarded the people who work all they lives. I work full time and get hardly anything from the government, so any reduction towards them, is perfect ! Go out and get a friggin job. This reduction is for individuals at working age, yes WORKING !

But you all keep piling into our country so you can claim our benefits or take our jobs. even have inbred children for the extra disability allowance

How did I pile into your country? I was born in Burnley, bought up and educated in Pendle, now work within the NHS and pay my due. You an uneducated twit. And clearly stupid for having your email address as your username !

Stupid or brave.... You failed to mention anything about you being inbred so I can only assume she got that right. Working at the hospital you'll know all about cousin marriages and the cost to social services and the pct. Hi 6's anyone?

You are the stupid racist one ! at least the cousin marriages know who their father is unlike some. and theres nothing wrong with cousin marriages.it is proven FACT.

hello and welcome.

I hope you have a nice time on this site and feel free to comment as you feel fit. Please be aware however that calling somebody a racist for highlighting the truth can lead to counter comments.

For example:

There are a number of stories printed by the media that mention an increase in disabilities due to cousin marriages within the Bangladeshi, Pakistani and Indian communities. This is a fact which was highlighted by the BBC a few years ago.

Your comment about "at least the cousin marriages know who their father is unlike some" is far more racist than mine and suggests that you have issues regarding some elements of British culture.

Its ll propaganda because you simply dont like asains and muslims. finding ways so they dont get married from back home for immigration purposes that is why bbc make programmes like this without any true facts.
so stop making fools of ur selves research scientifcally its a FACT.
And yes i do have an issue
about not knowing who the fathers is that is a big problems/ because the kids are effected in alot of ways when they grow older and resort to all sorts of drugs and other social mental problems lone parents are at highest increase cliaming benefits costing the tax payer millions.. u could end up having sex married to ur father or brother/sister. now that is a problem called incest not knowing who the father is.kids need both parents.

jack daniels wrote:

challenge me wrote:

jack daniels wrote:

Sajdin wrote:

laureneverett86@hotm ail.co.uk wrote:

Sajdin wrote: I cant believe the lot of you are moaning about a reduction of £25 per month ! my lord grow up, its about time this government saved money from handouts, and rewarded the people who work all they lives. I work full time and get hardly anything from the government, so any reduction towards them, is perfect ! Go out and get a friggin job. This reduction is for individuals at working age, yes WORKING !

But you all keep piling into our country so you can claim our benefits or take our jobs. even have inbred children for the extra disability allowance

How did I pile into your country? I was born in Burnley, bought up and educated in Pendle, now work within the NHS and pay my due. You an uneducated twit. And clearly stupid for having your email address as your username !

Stupid or brave.... You failed to mention anything about you being inbred so I can only assume she got that right. Working at the hospital you'll know all about cousin marriages and the cost to social services and the pct. Hi 6's anyone?

You are the stupid racist one ! at least the cousin marriages know who their father is unlike some. and theres nothing wrong with cousin marriages.it is proven FACT.

hello and welcome.

I hope you have a nice time on this site and feel free to comment as you feel fit. Please be aware however that calling somebody a racist for highlighting the truth can lead to counter comments.

For example:

There are a number of stories printed by the media that mention an increase in disabilities due to cousin marriages within the Bangladeshi, Pakistani and Indian communities. This is a fact which was highlighted by the BBC a few years ago.

Your comment about "at least the cousin marriages know who their father is unlike some" is far more racist than mine and suggests that you have issues regarding some elements of British culture.

Its ll propaganda because you simply dont like asains and muslims. finding ways so they dont get married from back home for immigration purposes that is why bbc make programmes like this without any true facts.
so stop making fools of ur selves research scientifcally its a FACT.
And yes i do have an issue
about not knowing who the fathers is that is a big problems/ because the kids are effected in alot of ways when they grow older and resort to all sorts of drugs and other social mental problems lone parents are at highest increase cliaming benefits costing the tax payer millions.. u could end up having sex married to ur father or brother/sister. now that is a problem called incest not knowing who the father is.kids need both parents.

jack daniels wrote:

challenge me wrote:

jack daniels wrote:

Sajdin wrote:

laureneverett86@hotm ail.co.uk wrote:

Sajdin wrote: I cant believe the lot of you are moaning about a reduction of £25 per month ! my lord grow up, its about time this government saved money from handouts, and rewarded the people who work all they lives. I work full time and get hardly anything from the government, so any reduction towards them, is perfect ! Go out and get a friggin job. This reduction is for individuals at working age, yes WORKING !

But you all keep piling into our country so you can claim our benefits or take our jobs. even have inbred children for the extra disability allowance

How did I pile into your country? I was born in Burnley, bought up and educated in Pendle, now work within the NHS and pay my due. You an uneducated twit. And clearly stupid for having your email address as your username !

Stupid or brave.... You failed to mention anything about you being inbred so I can only assume she got that right. Working at the hospital you'll know all about cousin marriages and the cost to social services and the pct. Hi 6's anyone?

You are the stupid racist one ! at least the cousin marriages know who their father is unlike some. and theres nothing wrong with cousin marriages.it is proven FACT.

hello and welcome.

I hope you have a nice time on this site and feel free to comment as you feel fit. Please be aware however that calling somebody a racist for highlighting the truth can lead to counter comments.

For example:

There are a number of stories printed by the media that mention an increase in disabilities due to cousin marriages within the Bangladeshi, Pakistani and Indian communities. This is a fact which was highlighted by the BBC a few years ago.

Your comment about "at least the cousin marriages know who their father is unlike some" is far more racist than mine and suggests that you have issues regarding some elements of British culture.

Its ll propaganda because you simply dont like asains and muslims. finding ways so they dont get married from back home for immigration purposes that is why bbc make programmes like this without any true facts.
so stop making fools of ur selves research scientifcally its a FACT.
And yes i do have an issue
about not knowing who the fathers is that is a big problems/ because the kids are effected in alot of ways when they grow older and resort to all sorts of drugs and other social mental problems lone parents are at highest increase cliaming benefits costing the tax payer millions.. u could end up having sex married to ur father or brother/sister. now that is a problem called incest not knowing who the father is.kids need both parents.

Moonman wrote:
Lets go back to the beginning shall we...you said:

Having so many poor people from places such as India, Pakistan and Bangladesh puts a huge burden on the services provided by the council. Cut down on the massive families, poor diet and reluctance to learn the language of where you now live and there wouldn't need to be an increase.

All of the information that you need to digest to understand why I disagree with your unbalanced statement can be found on here.

http://www.blackburn

.gov.uk/server.php?s

how=ConWebDoc.41869

Through my work, I can tell you that of the 18k benefits applicants that live in this borough, the majority of them are of a 'white' background. Hence why I said your statement was racist.

Poor diet is a problem across the borough, not just within certain sections of the community. You only need to see the size & demographic of the queues outside Greggs & McDonalds at any lunch-time to know that.

There are huge families on the Shadsworth estate and most other white council estates - again, I'd question why you have singled out the Asians unless you are just trying to be provocative.

The reason I mentioned that there were high levels of truancy in our most deprived areas is that you suggested that there was a reluctance to learn the language in the asian community. The majority of asians that I know speak very good english and it tends to be the elders that have struggled - no different to an english person going to a foreign country. There is also a 'reluctance to learn' in our own society.

Like I've said a couple of times already, if you present a balanced point of view, rather than focusing on a specific section of our borough, I'd maybe have a little bit of respect for your views; but as you just want to spout uneducated, unbalanced opinions and seem quite happy to shoot other people down for questioning what you have said, I see you nothing more than a pathetic ignorant little troll.

WELL SAID!!!! moonman i totally agree.

Moonman wrote:
Lets go back to the beginning shall we...you said:

Having so many poor people from places such as India, Pakistan and Bangladesh puts a huge burden on the services provided by the council. Cut down on the massive families, poor diet and reluctance to learn the language of where you now live and there wouldn't need to be an increase.

All of the information that you need to digest to understand why I disagree with your unbalanced statement can be found on here.

http://www.blackburn

.gov.uk/server.php?s

how=ConWebDoc.41869

Through my work, I can tell you that of the 18k benefits applicants that live in this borough, the majority of them are of a 'white' background. Hence why I said your statement was racist.

Poor diet is a problem across the borough, not just within certain sections of the community. You only need to see the size & demographic of the queues outside Greggs & McDonalds at any lunch-time to know that.

There are huge families on the Shadsworth estate and most other white council estates - again, I'd question why you have singled out the Asians unless you are just trying to be provocative.

The reason I mentioned that there were high levels of truancy in our most deprived areas is that you suggested that there was a reluctance to learn the language in the asian community. The majority of asians that I know speak very good english and it tends to be the elders that have struggled - no different to an english person going to a foreign country. There is also a 'reluctance to learn' in our own society.

Like I've said a couple of times already, if you present a balanced point of view, rather than focusing on a specific section of our borough, I'd maybe have a little bit of respect for your views; but as you just want to spout uneducated, unbalanced opinions and seem quite happy to shoot other people down for questioning what you have said, I see you nothing more than a pathetic ignorant little troll.

WELL SAID!!!! moonman i totally agree.

Moonman wrote:
Lets go back to the beginning shall we...you said:

Having so many poor people from places such as India, Pakistan and Bangladesh puts a huge burden on the services provided by the council. Cut down on the massive families, poor diet and reluctance to learn the language of where you now live and there wouldn't need to be an increase.

All of the information that you need to digest to understand why I disagree with your unbalanced statement can be found on here.

http://www.blackburn

.gov.uk/server.php?s

how=ConWebDoc.41869

Through my work, I can tell you that of the 18k benefits applicants that live in this borough, the majority of them are of a 'white' background. Hence why I said your statement was racist.

Poor diet is a problem across the borough, not just within certain sections of the community. You only need to see the size & demographic of the queues outside Greggs & McDonalds at any lunch-time to know that.

There are huge families on the Shadsworth estate and most other white council estates - again, I'd question why you have singled out the Asians unless you are just trying to be provocative.

The reason I mentioned that there were high levels of truancy in our most deprived areas is that you suggested that there was a reluctance to learn the language in the asian community. The majority of asians that I know speak very good english and it tends to be the elders that have struggled - no different to an english person going to a foreign country. There is also a 'reluctance to learn' in our own society.

Like I've said a couple of times already, if you present a balanced point of view, rather than focusing on a specific section of our borough, I'd maybe have a little bit of respect for your views; but as you just want to spout uneducated, unbalanced opinions and seem quite happy to shoot other people down for questioning what you have said, I see you nothing more than a pathetic ignorant little troll.

WELL SAID!!!! moonman i totally agree.

Moonman wrote:
Lets go back to the beginning shall we...you said:

Having so many poor people from places such as India, Pakistan and Bangladesh puts a huge burden on the services provided by the council. Cut down on the massive families, poor diet and reluctance to learn the language of where you now live and there wouldn't need to be an increase.

All of the information that you need to digest to understand why I disagree with your unbalanced statement can be found on here.

http://www.blackburn

.gov.uk/server.php?s

how=ConWebDoc.41869

Through my work, I can tell you that of the 18k benefits applicants that live in this borough, the majority of them are of a 'white' background. Hence why I said your statement was racist.

Poor diet is a problem across the borough, not just within certain sections of the community. You only need to see the size & demographic of the queues outside Greggs & McDonalds at any lunch-time to know that.

There are huge families on the Shadsworth estate and most other white council estates - again, I'd question why you have singled out the Asians unless you are just trying to be provocative.

The reason I mentioned that there were high levels of truancy in our most deprived areas is that you suggested that there was a reluctance to learn the language in the asian community. The majority of asians that I know speak very good english and it tends to be the elders that have struggled - no different to an english person going to a foreign country. There is also a 'reluctance to learn' in our own society.

Like I've said a couple of times already, if you present a balanced point of view, rather than focusing on a specific section of our borough, I'd maybe have a little bit of respect for your views; but as you just want to spout uneducated, unbalanced opinions and seem quite happy to shoot other people down for questioning what you have said, I see you nothing more than a pathetic ignorant little troll.

WELL SAID!!!! moonman i totally agree.

Moonman wrote:
Lets go back to the beginning shall we...you said:

Having so many poor people from places such as India, Pakistan and Bangladesh puts a huge burden on the services provided by the council. Cut down on the massive families, poor diet and reluctance to learn the language of where you now live and there wouldn't need to be an increase.

All of the information that you need to digest to understand why I disagree with your unbalanced statement can be found on here.

http://www.blackburn

.gov.uk/server.php?s

how=ConWebDoc.41869

Through my work, I can tell you that of the 18k benefits applicants that live in this borough, the majority of them are of a 'white' background. Hence why I said your statement was racist.

Poor diet is a problem across the borough, not just within certain sections of the community. You only need to see the size & demographic of the queues outside Greggs & McDonalds at any lunch-time to know that.

There are huge families on the Shadsworth estate and most other white council estates - again, I'd question why you have singled out the Asians unless you are just trying to be provocative.

The reason I mentioned that there were high levels of truancy in our most deprived areas is that you suggested that there was a reluctance to learn the language in the asian community. The majority of asians that I know speak very good english and it tends to be the elders that have struggled - no different to an english person going to a foreign country. There is also a 'reluctance to learn' in our own society.

Like I've said a couple of times already, if you present a balanced point of view, rather than focusing on a specific section of our borough, I'd maybe have a little bit of respect for your views; but as you just want to spout uneducated, unbalanced opinions and seem quite happy to shoot other people down for questioning what you have said, I see you nothing more than a pathetic ignorant little troll.

WELL SAID!!!! moonman i totally agree.

Moonman wrote:
Lets go back to the beginning shall we...you said:

Having so many poor people from places such as India, Pakistan and Bangladesh puts a huge burden on the services provided by the council. Cut down on the massive families, poor diet and reluctance to learn the language of where you now live and there wouldn't need to be an increase.

All of the information that you need to digest to understand why I disagree with your unbalanced statement can be found on here.

http://www.blackburn

.gov.uk/server.php?s

how=ConWebDoc.41869

Through my work, I can tell you that of the 18k benefits applicants that live in this borough, the majority of them are of a 'white' background. Hence why I said your statement was racist.

Poor diet is a problem across the borough, not just within certain sections of the community. You only need to see the size & demographic of the queues outside Greggs & McDonalds at any lunch-time to know that.

There are huge families on the Shadsworth estate and most other white council estates - again, I'd question why you have singled out the Asians unless you are just trying to be provocative.

The reason I mentioned that there were high levels of truancy in our most deprived areas is that you suggested that there was a reluctance to learn the language in the asian community. The majority of asians that I know speak very good english and it tends to be the elders that have struggled - no different to an english person going to a foreign country. There is also a 'reluctance to learn' in our own society.

Like I've said a couple of times already, if you present a balanced point of view, rather than focusing on a specific section of our borough, I'd maybe have a little bit of respect for your views; but as you just want to spout uneducated, unbalanced opinions and seem quite happy to shoot other people down for questioning what you have said, I see you nothing more than a pathetic ignorant little troll.

WELL SAID!!!! moonman i totally agree.

Moonman wrote:
Lets go back to the beginning shall we...you said:

Having so many poor people from places such as India, Pakistan and Bangladesh puts a huge burden on the services provided by the council. Cut down on the massive families, poor diet and reluctance to learn the language of where you now live and there wouldn't need to be an increase.

All of the information that you need to digest to understand why I disagree with your unbalanced statement can be found on here.

http://www.blackburn

.gov.uk/server.php?s

how=ConWebDoc.41869

Through my work, I can tell you that of the 18k benefits applicants that live in this borough, the majority of them are of a 'white' background. Hence why I said your statement was racist.

Poor diet is a problem across the borough, not just within certain sections of the community. You only need to see the size & demographic of the queues outside Greggs & McDonalds at any lunch-time to know that.

There are huge families on the Shadsworth estate and most other white council estates - again, I'd question why you have singled out the Asians unless you are just trying to be provocative.

The reason I mentioned that there were high levels of truancy in our most deprived areas is that you suggested that there was a reluctance to learn the language in the asian community. The majority of asians that I know speak very good english and it tends to be the elders that have struggled - no different to an english person going to a foreign country. There is also a 'reluctance to learn' in our own society.

Like I've said a couple of times already, if you present a balanced point of view, rather than focusing on a specific section of our borough, I'd maybe have a little bit of respect for your views; but as you just want to spout uneducated, unbalanced opinions and seem quite happy to shoot other people down for questioning what you have said, I see you nothing more than a pathetic ignorant little troll.

WELL SAID!!!! moonman i totally agree.

If you like loads of chocolate on your biscuit....get a job

challenge me wrote:

Moonman wrote:
Lets go back to the beginning shall we...you said:

Having so many poor people from places such as India, Pakistan and Bangladesh puts a huge burden on the services provided by the council. Cut down on the massive families, poor diet and reluctance to learn the language of where you now live and there wouldn't need to be an increase.

All of the information that you need to digest to understand why I disagree with your unbalanced statement can be found on here.

http://www.blackburn


.gov.uk/server.php?s


how=ConWebDoc.41869

Through my work, I can tell you that of the 18k benefits applicants that live in this borough, the majority of them are of a 'white' background. Hence why I said your statement was racist.

Poor diet is a problem across the borough, not just within certain sections of the community. You only need to see the size & demographic of the queues outside Greggs & McDonalds at any lunch-time to know that.

There are huge families on the Shadsworth estate and most other white council estates - again, I'd question why you have singled out the Asians unless you are just trying to be provocative.

The reason I mentioned that there were high levels of truancy in our most deprived areas is that you suggested that there was a reluctance to learn the language in the asian community. The majority of asians that I know speak very good english and it tends to be the elders that have struggled - no different to an english person going to a foreign country. There is also a 'reluctance to learn' in our own society.

Like I've said a couple of times already, if you present a balanced point of view, rather than focusing on a specific section of our borough, I'd maybe have a little bit of respect for your views; but as you just want to spout uneducated, unbalanced opinions and seem quite happy to shoot other people down for questioning what you have said, I see you nothing more than a pathetic ignorant little troll.

WELL SAID!!!! moonman i totally agree.

Give him a comment thumbs up. That's his secret pleasure. Whilst it's on that is!

jack daniels wrote:

sen c ble wrote:

jack daniels wrote:

sen c ble wrote:

jack daniels wrote:

sen c ble wrote:

jack daniels wrote: @ sen-c-ble Breaking agreements? Going back on your word? I’d expect nothing less from tiny toggered Indian. I suppose it explains why a British Company was able to easily manipulate your whole nation.

What's your problem? Apologies if I gave your missi one, but what would you expect, she *kin came at me half undressed!

well you keep wasting your time and filling up the comments sections with your stupidity. Me, I'm gonna keep ignoring you because - lets be honest - you have no word and no honour and a man without word or honour is worthless.

Well go away posting comments in reply. We had no agreement you pint size puppet. It's just one excuse for you to practice your insults that you so highly hold in your little cret mind. These do not at the slightest worry me. Now back to the agreement bit, where and when?

I recall it was last month during one of our tedious arguments. We both agreed and for the last 4 weeks, this website has been the better for it. Shame you had to give back on your word but like I said, I expect nothing less from an asian.

You're the only idiot I know who's signed on the dotted line as a proposer and a recipient, typical. Stick your agreement up your larger than normal pant's hole. I will continue to slap your teeth when and how I feel appropriate, but you don't forget not to reply to my smacking comments, or otherwise your missis will continue to get the 6'er!

BBC 8 December 2006
A survey of more than 1,000 men in India has concluded that condoms made according to international sizes are too large for a majority of Indian men.

THIS MEANS YOU!

X

u horrible dirty disgraceful man. shame on u.

challenge me wrote:

jack daniels wrote:

sen c ble wrote:

jack daniels wrote:

sen c ble wrote:

jack daniels wrote:

sen c ble wrote:

jack daniels wrote: @ sen-c-ble Breaking agreements? Going back on your word? I’d expect nothing less from tiny toggered Indian. I suppose it explains why a British Company was able to easily manipulate your whole nation.

What's your problem? Apologies if I gave your missi one, but what would you expect, she *kin came at me half undressed!

well you keep wasting your time and filling up the comments sections with your stupidity. Me, I'm gonna keep ignoring you because - lets be honest - you have no word and no honour and a man without word or honour is worthless.

Well go away posting comments in reply. We had no agreement you pint size puppet. It's just one excuse for you to practice your insults that you so highly hold in your little cret mind. These do not at the slightest worry me. Now back to the agreement bit, where and when?

I recall it was last month during one of our tedious arguments. We both agreed and for the last 4 weeks, this website has been the better for it. Shame you had to give back on your word but like I said, I expect nothing less from an asian.

You're the only idiot I know who's signed on the dotted line as a proposer and a recipient, typical. Stick your agreement up your larger than normal pant's hole. I will continue to slap your teeth when and how I feel appropriate, but you don't forget not to reply to my smacking comments, or otherwise your missis will continue to get the 6'er!

BBC 8 December 2006
A survey of more than 1,000 men in India has concluded that condoms made according to international sizes are too large for a majority of Indian men.

THIS MEANS YOU!

X

u horrible dirty disgraceful man. shame on u.

Just ignore the midget.
His missis always being pumped, hence the burst!

I thought this post was about COUNCIL TAX ...

this has turned into" which race of monkey is the most inferior" .... let me tell you its BOTH. less than a century ago saxons married their cousins too queen victoria and albert were 1st cousins as thier parents were in fact brother and sister. glad im neither breed of halfwit on here,you are the primary cause of this by consenting and voting and filling in questioinaires on behalf of the military industrial complex.

No-one has a "moral duty"to pay taxes..so why do you then? because you are all RETARDED ...robert peel was the stinkwort who created income tax and it was only temperary so how has it become permanent?
how about learning something for a
change instead of blaming each other for your own demise
and self destruction? I dont like what the gov has done flooding us with inferiors who take our jobs and benifits to which OUR FOREFATHERS have already paid for,however your greatest foe is your lack of knowledge...you have had equal time to learn just as much as the greatest thinkers, yet have wasted it on self indulgence and banality such as faggy football alcohol and overpriced gimmiky iphones. The councils are an unlawful assembly of theives and traitors given a licence by uk gov plc to do as they please as long as they pay a fee back to the den of vipers known as uk gov plc ...
All these hair brained schemes such as council tax parking tickets private landlord licences speedbumps 20mph limits are in fact unlawful and only apply if you give your CONSENT. Legal is not a real law, it is a fraud designed to benifit the fraudsters behind it, therefore if you pay these people for their fraudulent activities then you have given your consent to the fraud, which is legal but still unlawful. what we need is an army of smart citizens who will physically arrest.. incarcerate..and
investigate how this country has been deliberately targetted for destruction of its people and its systems designed purely for us, and not some prehistoric stone
worshipper or some european waste of space, who is so desperate to better themselves that they come over here and take LOWER WAGES, not really knowing that the precedent they set contributes to the demise of the british way of life. Things are going to get worse and worse until whitey is nothing but an empty shell filled with hate and fear...
this tax will make the poor poorer no doubt, and this is not good at all. its EVIL.

If any of you are smart (which i doubt) then why do you pay council tax anyhow? are you trying to speil that its a duty to pay this tax..or any tax given that all taxation is theft. just do what you normally do..bend
over and think of baby jesus, or go and get **** and show yourself up as usual. If YOU DONT WANT TO PAY then
i suggest all the people dont pay and see what happens.
Your always whinging that prison is a holiday camp so how about going there and experience it for real..pnly then will you realise that people talk **** about things they hear from the press and media, whos intention is to deceive and monger hate and fear, and it works because this post is riddled with "beleivers"...
if any of you posess a liability order for c/tax then that document itself is evidence of treason..full stop.
a c/tax demand is demanding money with menaces, a serious crime requiring serious time for the perps...inc councillors magistrates and bailiffs who take part in this fraud. uk gov plc will rob you till the day you die, and even then they will tax the dead... Treason murder and buggery still carries the death penalty ...it takes real men to execute the will of common law,but where are you going to find them among the bickering trogs? you are finished unless you merge into one and all target the same set of crimtards ..UK GOV plc.

And finally to the deludes of pointless offspring of kallikak mothers who beleive this bill specifically targets the long term unemployed... This bill will effect every human being and child alike, forcing evictions and
people into tinier spaces until you are all living in boxes,rabid dogs get better treatment than humans ..how PATHETIC you people really are...your ancestors really did die in vain.