Blackburn police patrols hit the street as they tackle local alcoholics

BOOZE PURGE Police challenge a street drinker. BOOZE PURGE Police challenge a street drinker.

STREET drinking in Blackburn has become a major issue despite the town having a street drinking banning order.
Daily complaints have been flooding in to police about alcoholics gathering to drink and beg for money.
To tackle the problem police have taken to the streets to confiscate alcohol, educate drinkers and try to convince retailers not to sell cheap booze to known alcoholics.
Crime reporter Vanessa Cornall joined officers on an enforcement patrol to see just how severe the problem has got.

THE signs of Blackburn’s difficult relationship with street drinkers can be seen on almost every corner.

Cheap branded beer cans and bottles are discarded in shop doorways on Bank Top as well as on children’s play areas and green spaces.

The issue has been getting gradually worse over the past few months with business owners demanding something be done to stop customers being intimidated by begging drunks.

A favourite hang out of the town’s alcoholics includes Whalley Banks Post Office, Bank Top, and the play area next to the Griffin pub.

Police said elderly residents collecting their pensioners were regularly hassled by drinkers begging for cash.

The drinkers are men and women, from Eastern Europe and Blackburn.

Police believe the problem stems partly from the town’s sizeable homeless population, differences in culture and a lack of awareness of the no street drinking by-laws.

In a bid to combat the growing problem, police have been in touch with all the local businesses who sell alcohol.

Most of the shops, including Lidl supermarket, have agreed to work in partnership with the police and have either removed their cheapest alcohol from the shelves or are refusing to sell it to known drunk troublemakers.

Tesco on Bank Top, which can legally sell alcohol from 7am to 11pm, also said it was trying to be responsible.

A duty manager said: “Up until recently we didn’t realise there was an issue. Whenever I am on, I make a point of refusing to sell alcohol to known alcoholics first thing in the morning.

“But if three females are working in the shop alone and the men come in and kick off, it can be really intimidating when they threaten to smash up the shop if we don’t sell it to them.

“We can legally sell alcohol from 7am but we are now trying to be responisble.”

Minutes after leaving the police station on a recent operation, Sgt Kevin Jones spotted three Polish street drinkers sat near the Griffin Pub.

One 30-year-old man said: “I don’t want to sit in my flat and drink. What is better than being outside?”

Asked why he didn’t visit the pub, he said: “The pub is full of old, smelly people. I want to gather outside and meet my friends, I don’t understand why it’s a problem.”

Officers confiscated their alcohol before pouring it away and explaining to them the law surrounding the street drinking ban.

Just moments later, fellow street drinker and former Polish soldier Michael Minorczyk, approached the team.

The 26-year-old explained the reasons behind him living and drinking on the streets: “I came to England with my girlfriend in 2005 but shortly after we broke up.

“I started work but with the spiralling economy, I ended up losing my job and finding myself sleeping on my friend’s sofa and drinking hard, which he didn’t like.

“I returned home to Poland for a short time before eventually returning to Blackburn where I found myself living on the streets.

“I now sleep in the abandoned cars in King Street. I am an alcoholic and I need alcohol to survive. I have recently started suffering severe fits and if I don’t drink they get worse. I am scared I am going to die.

“I often drink up to six litres of Frosty Jacks cider in a day. I am going into rehab. I don’t want to be like this anymore.

“I get in trouble with the police for stealing so I can pay for drink. I have been doing this for seven years and that is too long.”

Businesses throughout Bank Top are counting the cost of cleaning up the mess of the spiralling drinking problem.

Car parks and shop entrances are constantly blighted with empty beer cans and rubbish.

Sgt Jones, who has been leading the area’s enforcement oeprations, said: “Drink fuelled anti-social behaviour will not be tolerated. We have a number of options to punish offenders including seizing alcohol and disposing of it down the drain. Other avenues include banning constant offenders from a specific area and levying a heavy fine.”

Anyone with concerns about street drinking can call police on 101.

Comments (18)

8:40pm Thu 23 Aug 12

mavrick says...

Is there any rehab places for them, or are they simply being moved on. I think it is only going to get worse.
Is there any rehab places for them, or are they simply being moved on. I think it is only going to get worse. mavrick

9:31pm Thu 23 Aug 12

prince of darkness says...

Its not just Blackburn its a Nation problem. Its not the cheap booze that everone blames its the all hours access.Will get it whatever the price the stealing will only increase to obtain it.It all boils down to anytime drinking,yes it happened in the old days. But not to the levels we see now,pubs corner shops had opening selling hours. So its not rocket science is it.
Its not just Blackburn its a Nation problem. Its not the cheap booze that everone blames its the all hours access.Will get it whatever the price the stealing will only increase to obtain it.It all boils down to anytime drinking,yes it happened in the old days. But not to the levels we see now,pubs corner shops had opening selling hours. So its not rocket science is it. prince of darkness

10:55pm Thu 23 Aug 12

l m h jones says...

recent examples of these pigs, urinating on shop windows in the area, falling into the road on residential street, intimidating small kids by being abusive, screeching in the early hours and fighting each other, throw away their beer? i would lock them up in their hostels make them "dry" and give them as little sympathy as possible..and that includes the scrots queuing outside chemists at 9am and being abusive because they need their methadone well done to the police for attempting to do something about this and trying stomp on the behavior, selling booze at 7am tesco? why?
recent examples of these pigs, urinating on shop windows in the area, falling into the road on residential street, intimidating small kids by being abusive, screeching in the early hours and fighting each other, throw away their beer? i would lock them up in their hostels make them "dry" and give them as little sympathy as possible..and that includes the scrots queuing outside chemists at 9am and being abusive because they need their methadone well done to the police for attempting to do something about this and trying stomp on the behavior, selling booze at 7am tesco? why? l m h jones

11:36pm Thu 23 Aug 12

Abbysdadgary says...

Stupidly I was going to ask where he was getting the money from - but read agan and he's stealing and sleeping in abandoned cars!! deport him.. why should us taxpayers pay for his rehab! I also agree with the comment about the scrotes getting methadone...........
... The NHS should take a reality check, chuck the abusers into cold turkey and put the money into the care of the ones who need it. Glad the police are tackling it and good luck to them as there are lots of drunks about but their time should really be spent on crime and not sweeping the streets of Blackburns drunks & druggies!
Stupidly I was going to ask where he was getting the money from - but read agan and he's stealing and sleeping in abandoned cars!! deport him.. why should us taxpayers pay for his rehab! I also agree with the comment about the scrotes getting methadone........... ... The NHS should take a reality check, chuck the abusers into cold turkey and put the money into the care of the ones who need it. Glad the police are tackling it and good luck to them as there are lots of drunks about but their time should really be spent on crime and not sweeping the streets of Blackburns drunks & druggies! Abbysdadgary

12:21am Fri 24 Aug 12

barlicker says...

Insert Steve Kean gag here.
Insert Steve Kean gag here. barlicker

6:43am Fri 24 Aug 12

woolywords says...

barlicker wrote:
Insert Steve Kean gag here.
I'd drink to that but they're not open yet..
[quote][p][bold]barlicker[/bold] wrote: Insert Steve Kean gag here.[/p][/quote]I'd drink to that but they're not open yet.. woolywords

7:14am Fri 24 Aug 12

jack daniels says...

Fortunately our MP is busy helping to solve the problem.

Oh wait... no he's not.

He's off making extra money for himself while the town continues it's decline.
Fortunately our MP is busy helping to solve the problem. Oh wait... no he's not. He's off making extra money for himself while the town continues it's decline. jack daniels

8:28am Fri 24 Aug 12

VamboMarbleEye says...

Poland must be a right dump if he'd rather live rough in Blackburn.
Poland must be a right dump if he'd rather live rough in Blackburn. VamboMarbleEye

8:31am Fri 24 Aug 12

Coeur de Lion says...

We can't deport them because they are citizens of th EU, France and Italy are clearing this scum off their streets, why can't we? Maybe black Jack could tell us in-between his other jobs.
We can't deport them because they are citizens of th EU, France and Italy are clearing this scum off their streets, why can't we? Maybe black Jack could tell us in-between his other jobs. Coeur de Lion

10:28am Fri 24 Aug 12

Jack Herer says...

Carlsberg and Bacardi don't mention this aspect of their product on their amazing adverts do they?

Why don't the alcohol companies have to even pay for the mess their product creates? They happily pocket the profits but can seemingly wash their hands of the shocking state of some of their users.

Yet pot heads, harming or bothering no-one, living healthily, get their doors kicked in.

Alcohol has definitely got an easy ride from the authorities compared to harmless weed.

I tell you what, those political lobbyists must be worth their weight in gold to the alcohol companies!
Carlsberg and Bacardi don't mention this aspect of their product on their amazing adverts do they? Why don't the alcohol companies have to even pay for the mess their product creates? They happily pocket the profits but can seemingly wash their hands of the shocking state of some of their users. Yet pot heads, harming or bothering no-one, living healthily, get their doors kicked in. Alcohol has definitely got an easy ride from the authorities compared to harmless weed. I tell you what, those political lobbyists must be worth their weight in gold to the alcohol companies! Jack Herer

10:29am Fri 24 Aug 12

Jack Herer says...

Coeur de Lion wrote:
We can't deport them because they are citizens of th EU, France and Italy are clearing this scum off their streets, why can't we? Maybe black Jack could tell us in-between his other jobs.
The sooner we can leave the EU, the sooner this country can get properly back on it's feet.
[quote][p][bold]Coeur de Lion[/bold] wrote: We can't deport them because they are citizens of th EU, France and Italy are clearing this scum off their streets, why can't we? Maybe black Jack could tell us in-between his other jobs.[/p][/quote]The sooner we can leave the EU, the sooner this country can get properly back on it's feet. Jack Herer

11:04am Fri 24 Aug 12

jack daniels says...

Jack Herer wrote:
Carlsberg and Bacardi don't mention this aspect of their product on their amazing adverts do they? Why don't the alcohol companies have to even pay for the mess their product creates? They happily pocket the profits but can seemingly wash their hands of the shocking state of some of their users. Yet pot heads, harming or bothering no-one, living healthily, get their doors kicked in. Alcohol has definitely got an easy ride from the authorities compared to harmless weed. I tell you what, those political lobbyists must be worth their weight in gold to the alcohol companies!
You do talk some guff.

You can say many thngs about weed but 'harmless' is not one of them.

legalise by all means but trying to sell it as a safe alternative is irresponsible and you should hold your head in shame
[quote][p][bold]Jack Herer[/bold] wrote: Carlsberg and Bacardi don't mention this aspect of their product on their amazing adverts do they? Why don't the alcohol companies have to even pay for the mess their product creates? They happily pocket the profits but can seemingly wash their hands of the shocking state of some of their users. Yet pot heads, harming or bothering no-one, living healthily, get their doors kicked in. Alcohol has definitely got an easy ride from the authorities compared to harmless weed. I tell you what, those political lobbyists must be worth their weight in gold to the alcohol companies![/p][/quote]You do talk some guff. You can say many thngs about weed but 'harmless' is not one of them. legalise by all means but trying to sell it as a safe alternative is irresponsible and you should hold your head in shame jack daniels

11:19am Fri 24 Aug 12

jack daniels says...

Realistically, we all know that the government uses alcohol as a way to suppress the masses. This was why there used to be a pub on every terraced street corner – so the workers came straight out of the cotton mills (after doing a 12hr shift) and straight into the pub. It was a way to numb the pain of a $h!tty life and not engage in the idea of a full blown revolution.

Obviously this still goes on to a lesser extent and could explain why the government is reluctant to implement any major pricing for supermarket booze. To do so would mean them having to deal with the problem of all these drunk men and women with nothing to do.

The answer to this problem is that we need to have a country where people really do have opportunities and a purpose in life – one that is not the lies told by the politicians in Westminster.

If people really had something to loose, they wouldn’t throw it away by drinking copious amounts of alcohol or using drugs.
Realistically, we all know that the government uses alcohol as a way to suppress the masses. This was why there used to be a pub on every terraced street corner – so the workers came straight out of the cotton mills (after doing a 12hr shift) and straight into the pub. It was a way to numb the pain of a $h!tty life and not engage in the idea of a full blown revolution. Obviously this still goes on to a lesser extent and could explain why the government is reluctant to implement any major pricing for supermarket booze. To do so would mean them having to deal with the problem of all these drunk men and women with nothing to do. The answer to this problem is that we need to have a country where people really do have opportunities and a purpose in life – one that is not the lies told by the politicians in Westminster. If people really had something to loose, they wouldn’t throw it away by drinking copious amounts of alcohol or using drugs. jack daniels

7:33pm Fri 24 Aug 12

Jack Herer says...

jack daniels wrote:
Jack Herer wrote:
Carlsberg and Bacardi don't mention this aspect of their product on their amazing adverts do they? Why don't the alcohol companies have to even pay for the mess their product creates? They happily pocket the profits but can seemingly wash their hands of the shocking state of some of their users. Yet pot heads, harming or bothering no-one, living healthily, get their doors kicked in. Alcohol has definitely got an easy ride from the authorities compared to harmless weed. I tell you what, those political lobbyists must be worth their weight in gold to the alcohol companies!
You do talk some guff.

You can say many thngs about weed but 'harmless' is not one of them.

legalise by all means but trying to sell it as a safe alternative is irresponsible and you should hold your head in shame
Compared to booze, weed is clearly a monumentally safe alternative.

If everyone stopped drinking and started smoking weed instead, then hospital admissions really would go down by about 1,000,000 people every year.

Cannabis promotes consideration and caution, unlike alcohol's recklessness. Society would be richer beyond compare if all alcoholics were pot heads.

There is a bloke in South Wales who used to be an alcoholic, always in front of the judge for causing havoc.He turned to weed about 10 years ago and hasn't bothered a fly since. The police still raid his house once a year mind, because they know for sure he takes weed (because he's not in trouble), and he gets done once a year for pocession.

It makes you wonder if the police would prefer if he were a nuisance?

As far as health goes, remarkably cannabis has a whole host of very real medical benefits for a whole range of conditions. Alcohol has no medical benefit except swabbing down surfaces.

In the only two major social studies on the subject, cannabis users were found to live one and a half to two years longer than non-users.

There is even very real credible evidence that cannabis oil (the very purest form of it's most active ingredient THC), cures some major types of cancer. When all else has failed.

I can't be arsed explaining the scientific reasons behind it, but they are real and there. Look up Rick Simpson's "run from the cure" for incredible stories from real people, or even just the UK420 forum. You'll be amazed.

Therefore selling cannabis as a safe alternative isn't irresponsible, it's being responsible and I can hold my head up high for doing so.

You continually pushing ignorance however can't.
[quote][p][bold]jack daniels[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jack Herer[/bold] wrote: Carlsberg and Bacardi don't mention this aspect of their product on their amazing adverts do they? Why don't the alcohol companies have to even pay for the mess their product creates? They happily pocket the profits but can seemingly wash their hands of the shocking state of some of their users. Yet pot heads, harming or bothering no-one, living healthily, get their doors kicked in. Alcohol has definitely got an easy ride from the authorities compared to harmless weed. I tell you what, those political lobbyists must be worth their weight in gold to the alcohol companies![/p][/quote]You do talk some guff. You can say many thngs about weed but 'harmless' is not one of them. legalise by all means but trying to sell it as a safe alternative is irresponsible and you should hold your head in shame[/p][/quote]Compared to booze, weed is clearly a monumentally safe alternative. If everyone stopped drinking and started smoking weed instead, then hospital admissions really would go down by about 1,000,000 people every year. Cannabis promotes consideration and caution, unlike alcohol's recklessness. Society would be richer beyond compare if all alcoholics were pot heads. There is a bloke in South Wales who used to be an alcoholic, always in front of the judge for causing havoc.He turned to weed about 10 years ago and hasn't bothered a fly since. The police still raid his house once a year mind, because they know for sure he takes weed (because he's not in trouble), and he gets done once a year for pocession. It makes you wonder if the police would prefer if he were a nuisance? As far as health goes, remarkably cannabis has a whole host of very real medical benefits for a whole range of conditions. Alcohol has no medical benefit except swabbing down surfaces. In the only two major social studies on the subject, cannabis users were found to live one and a half to two years longer than non-users. There is even very real credible evidence that cannabis oil (the very purest form of it's most active ingredient THC), cures some major types of cancer. When all else has failed. I can't be arsed explaining the scientific reasons behind it, but they are real and there. Look up Rick Simpson's "run from the cure" for incredible stories from real people, or even just the UK420 forum. You'll be amazed. Therefore selling cannabis as a safe alternative isn't irresponsible, it's being responsible and I can hold my head up high for doing so. You continually pushing ignorance however can't. Jack Herer

7:53pm Fri 24 Aug 12

Jack Herer says...

Sorry, I meant to add an albeit there, that these are currently anecdotal stories only regarding cannabis's curative powers on cancer.

Those dishing out this cannabis oil to cancer patients are crying out for clinical trials though. Unfortunately that's currently illegally dished out of course.
Sorry, I meant to add an albeit there, that these are currently anecdotal stories only regarding cannabis's curative powers on cancer. Those dishing out this cannabis oil to cancer patients are crying out for clinical trials though. Unfortunately that's currently illegally dished out of course. Jack Herer

8:50pm Fri 24 Aug 12

woolywords says...

Jack, the Herer, not Daniels..
How strange that you should mention THC oil as I was doing a little research on the subject just last night.
Why, you may ask?
Am trying to find a reasonable method of combining the oil with an electronic ciggy since I've given up smoking tobacco and now miss the odd spliff or three.
Have ordered the necessary bits and bobs to run my own experiments, more on the results after testing.
I do recall reading that 'honey oil' at 90% purity after abstraction is, according to them whom shall remain nameless, by far and away the most potent and practically safe method of useage.

And for Jack Daniels,
I, like many an other have tried the whole gamut of home brewed beers and wines but the potency was to say the least, not very healthy. You drink a lot less liquid but get more alcohol per glass than normal. This is in effect, binge drinking and we all know how bad that is for you. This is only exacerbated when you fire up your own distillery to make a spirit base that is used to make a variety of other drinks. The problem with spirits is the Fusil oil, a by-product that can lead to blindness. Hence the term, a 3 day blinder. I did manage to evade this by using a deep freezer and a rather ingenious bottom tapped demijohn but the ABV rates of over 140 were, on balance, a recipe for disaster.. So gave that up.

Have to say though, my Mum's recipe for rock buns, with mixed peel and dried fruits along with a sprinkling of a certain herb, is a really pleasant way to enjoy it. She found the recipe online, not long after her 70th birthday. She is convinced that angry people should be made to eat rock buns of her making.
Cinnamon rock bun anyone?
Jack, the Herer, not Daniels.. How strange that you should mention THC oil as I was doing a little research on the subject just last night. Why, you may ask? Am trying to find a reasonable method of combining the oil with an electronic ciggy since I've given up smoking tobacco and now miss the odd spliff or three. Have ordered the necessary bits and bobs to run my own experiments, more on the results after testing. I do recall reading that 'honey oil' at 90% purity after abstraction is, according to them whom shall remain nameless, by far and away the most potent and practically safe method of useage. And for Jack Daniels, I, like many an other have tried the whole gamut of home brewed beers and wines but the potency was to say the least, not very healthy. You drink a lot less liquid but get more alcohol per glass than normal. This is in effect, binge drinking and we all know how bad that is for you. This is only exacerbated when you fire up your own distillery to make a spirit base that is used to make a variety of other drinks. The problem with spirits is the Fusil oil, a by-product that can lead to blindness. Hence the term, a 3 day blinder. I did manage to evade this by using a deep freezer and a rather ingenious bottom tapped demijohn but the ABV rates of over 140 were, on balance, a recipe for disaster.. So gave that up. Have to say though, my Mum's recipe for rock buns, with mixed peel and dried fruits along with a sprinkling of a certain herb, is a really pleasant way to enjoy it. She found the recipe online, not long after her 70th birthday. She is convinced that angry people should be made to eat rock buns of her making. Cinnamon rock bun anyone? woolywords

9:07pm Fri 24 Aug 12

woolywords says...

Some years ago, I lived in Poland, with a friend and have to say that they have an equally similar problem to us as regards people being drunk and begging on the streets.
Quick Polish history lesson..
Prices rising, wages cut, workers going on strike and occupying the Gdansk shipyards. Solidarity, Lech Walesa and finally people killed.
Regime change, shipyards virtually shut, massive unemployment, no social payments.
Tourists visiting the memorial to the fallen workers are pestered by alcoholics who make a cutting gesture across the throat then put their hands out. It's symbolic of dying of thirst and begging for money. Yet, the country is begging for it's building workers to come back home to fill the vacancies that exist across the whole country. They were considering allowing the illegal Turkish workers that Germany doesn't want into Poland.
I met a guy in Gdansk called Steve, he married a Pole and moved. He is now a leading fire officer and is training them in the English way of doing things.
And finally, some misquoted Karl Marx. 'Work, is the curse of the drinking classes!'
Some years ago, I lived in Poland, with a friend and have to say that they have an equally similar problem to us as regards people being drunk and begging on the streets. Quick Polish history lesson.. Prices rising, wages cut, workers going on strike and occupying the Gdansk shipyards. Solidarity, Lech Walesa and finally people killed. Regime change, shipyards virtually shut, massive unemployment, no social payments. Tourists visiting the memorial to the fallen workers are pestered by alcoholics who make a cutting gesture across the throat then put their hands out. It's symbolic of dying of thirst and begging for money. Yet, the country is begging for it's building workers to come back home to fill the vacancies that exist across the whole country. They were considering allowing the illegal Turkish workers that Germany doesn't want into Poland. I met a guy in Gdansk called Steve, he married a Pole and moved. He is now a leading fire officer and is training them in the English way of doing things. And finally, some misquoted Karl Marx. 'Work, is the curse of the drinking classes!' woolywords

1:04am Sat 25 Aug 12

OnePostThenTheOther says...

Throw open the borders, at least out own drunks can feel a bit more cosmopolitan by mixing with drunks from all these other places. In't multiculturalism brilliant. Let's celebrate it.
Throw open the borders, at least out own drunks can feel a bit more cosmopolitan by mixing with drunks from all these other places. In't multiculturalism brilliant. Let's celebrate it. OnePostThenTheOther

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