East Lancashire headteachers say scrapping GCSEs would be retrograde

East Lancashire headteachers say scrapping GCSEs would be retrograde East Lancashire headteachers say scrapping GCSEs would be retrograde

EDUCATION Secretary Michael Gove has sparked a row by announcing a plan to axe GCSEs in favour of the O level and CSE system they replaced.

He said change was vital to improve standards for school leavers and those heading for sixth form or college.

But his idea, which saw him hauled before the Commons to explain himself, has enraged Deputy Prime Minister Nick Clegg whose party accused Mr Gove of trying to go back to a two-tier system.

With Blackburn Labour MP Jack Straw calling the idea ‘retrograde’ and saying it would go back to the days of ‘categorising children as sheep or goats’ in their teens, the Lancashire Telegraph asked local headteachers for their views.

The majority, all state-school heads, were opposed with only Simon Corns from Blackburn’s independent QEGS in favour. But even he said he had reservations about going back to a second-class CSE-style qualification for those denied the chance to sit new-age O levels.

While eight other heads were in favour of moves to improve exam standards and consistency, and many backed Mr Gove’s other idea of a single examination board for England, there was no enthusiasm for a split curriculum at 13 and separate exams at 16.

Even Pendle Tory MP Andrew Stephenson said: “It’s a very interesting idea but I cannot say whether I support it until we see what is being proposed.”

Nigel Dawson, Fearns Community Sports College, Rossendale.

“This is potentially a significant change to the ethos underpinning education. I am very concerned that this needs to be very carefully thought through and far more detail is required before I can endorse what, at face value, seems a retrograde step.”

Tim Mitchell, Norden High School, Rishton.

“I can see good reason for limiting the number of examination boards. We also need to address the constant ‘complaint’ that examinations are in some way easier than those sat by our generation. I would be opposed to any two-tier academic qualifications as I feel that we will be in danger of ‘labelling’ young people far too early.”

Simon Corns, Queen Elizabeth’s Grammar School, Blackburn.

“There is certainly a problem with GCSEs. If the logic is to reinstate rigorous academic qualifications, I am all in favour. What I would be nervous about without knowing the detail is what happens to the CSE bit. That was not a good qualification. A simplistic reinstatement of that would concern me.”

David Whyte, St Wilfrid’s Church of England Academy, Blackburn.

“Making a return to two tiers of O levels and CSEs would be divisive and not inclusive. I would not be in favour of that happening but I am in favour of having a single exam board for the whole country to ensure that the same high standards are maintained across all students.”

Brendan Loughran, Darwen Aldridge Community Academy.

“I am not in favour of replacing GCSEs with the old-style O levels, however I am in favour of the move to one examination body. My concern on the announcement of a possible return to O levels is that there has been little or no consultation on these proposals, presumably ‘leaked’ to grab headlines.”

Arnold Kuchartshuk, West Craven High Technology College, Barnoldswick.

“The people I have taught in my many years in Craven have gone on to become doctors, nurses, accountants and many run their own businesses. They have achieved that through the current system. There is nothing wrong with looking for improvement but going back to O levels would not be right.”

Alasdair Coates, St Christopher’s CE High School, Accrington.

“This seems to be about grabbing a headline. Most schools divide pupils into taking Foundation GCSEs and GCSEs so if this is about dividing the sheep from the goats, this happens. This seems to be about nomenclature and perception and if it is about going back to some mythical golden age I am not in favour.”

Anthony McNamara, St Augustine’s RC High School, Billington.

“Michael Gove's ideal system appears to be a return to the prep schools of the 1950s. This was a ‘Golden Age’ that never existed for the majority. Thatcher axed O levels and CSEs in 1988 because they were seen to be divisive and failing to meet the needs of a modern economy. Gove's plans will restrict social mobility."

Mark Jackson, Haslingden High School.

“A move back to O levels and CSEs would be a retrograde step and mark a return to the two-tier education system of the 1970s which did nothing for the life chances of huge numbers of young people. The introduction of GCSEs was a significant move forward, levelling the playing field for generations of students.”

Comments (8)

3:04pm Sat 23 Jun 12

Excluded again says...

A good qualification for the few. A second rate qualification for the many. How does that help improve standards?

If the government is really concerned that GCSEs need to be harder exams to rasie standards, then here is a simple solution. Make GCSEs harder exams.
A good qualification for the few. A second rate qualification for the many. How does that help improve standards? If the government is really concerned that GCSEs need to be harder exams to rasie standards, then here is a simple solution. Make GCSEs harder exams. Excluded again

3:30pm Sat 23 Jun 12

Smoking Area says...

Of course they don't like it, the GCSE's were introduced to be easier and make it look like our educators were doing their jobs.

They fear the return of real education because you will see how useless some teachers are.

Getting the degree is the easy bit... learning to teach that's another thing.
Of course they don't like it, the GCSE's were introduced to be easier and make it look like our educators were doing their jobs. They fear the return of real education because you will see how useless some teachers are. Getting the degree is the easy bit... learning to teach that's another thing. Smoking Area

3:46pm Sat 23 Jun 12

sen c bl says...

A chance for teachers and pupils to prove their worth!!!
A chance for teachers and pupils to prove their worth!!! sen c bl

4:34pm Sat 23 Jun 12

Am i in yet..? says...

Who as seen the old b&w movie Passport to Pimlico..?

With the way things are not just with this old fashioned idea but with the whole government.. Wouldn't it be great to declare Lancashire is no longer a part of the UK and claim our independence from these Globallistic murderers we have in power. And its not like its impossible the City of London are independent from the capital and the rest of us. Then again the modern sheople man is unable to make a decision for himself and the kids would have grown up and fcuked off to get pregnant by the time he's made his mind up.
Who as seen the old b&w movie Passport to Pimlico..? With the way things are not just with this old fashioned idea but with the whole government.. Wouldn't it be great to declare Lancashire is no longer a part of the UK and claim our independence from these Globallistic murderers we have in power. And its not like its impossible the City of London are independent from the capital and the rest of us. Then again the modern sheople man is unable to make a decision for himself and the kids would have grown up and fcuked off to get pregnant by the time he's made his mind up. Am i in yet..?

6:39pm Sat 23 Jun 12

jack daniels says...

Another day; another ill thought out idea by the condems. When will they stop fiddling with the education system and let the teachers get on with it.

Another U turn in the making??
Another day; another ill thought out idea by the condems. When will they stop fiddling with the education system and let the teachers get on with it. Another U turn in the making?? jack daniels

6:56pm Sat 23 Jun 12

Am i in yet..? says...

jack daniels wrote:
Another day; another ill thought out idea by the condems. When will they stop fiddling with the education system and let the teachers get on with it.

Another U turn in the making??
Yeh they've eaten that many pasties they don't know what they're doing..thinking about it they've never known what they're doing apart from hurting the ones who pay them.
[quote][p][bold]jack daniels[/bold] wrote: Another day; another ill thought out idea by the condems. When will they stop fiddling with the education system and let the teachers get on with it. Another U turn in the making??[/p][/quote]Yeh they've eaten that many pasties they don't know what they're doing..thinking about it they've never known what they're doing apart from hurting the ones who pay them. Am i in yet..?

7:20am Sun 24 Jun 12

Excluded again says...

sen c bl wrote:
A chance for teachers and pupils to prove their worth!!!
Not if you are one of pupils who are forced to study the second rate, dumbed down qualififcation. No matter how hard you work you will end up with a second rate piece of paper that no-one takes seriously.
[quote][p][bold]sen c bl[/bold] wrote: A chance for teachers and pupils to prove their worth!!![/p][/quote]Not if you are one of pupils who are forced to study the second rate, dumbed down qualififcation. No matter how hard you work you will end up with a second rate piece of paper that no-one takes seriously. Excluded again

9:51am Mon 25 Jun 12

karolgadge says...

In a sense, the headline-grabbing statements about scrapping GCSEs are missing the main point.
Michael Gove is trying hard to move towards the right-wing, post-Thatcherite element of the Conservative Party. In other words, his aim is to 'de-regulate' all secondary schools and thus extend this free-market notion to the curriculum itself.
The problem with GCSEs is a simple one for Michael Gove: they are emblematic of a government-imposed straitjacket curriculum that needs to be abolished.
Educational free-marketeers would love to see all schools fully independent of state control, competing for pupils, setting their own curriculum and choosing which exams their students should sit.

How far political expediency will derail these aspirations has yet to be decided.
In a sense, the headline-grabbing statements about scrapping GCSEs are missing the main point. Michael Gove is trying hard to move towards the right-wing, post-Thatcherite element of the Conservative Party. In other words, his aim is to 'de-regulate' all secondary schools and thus extend this free-market notion to the curriculum itself. The problem with GCSEs is a simple one for Michael Gove: they are emblematic of a government-imposed straitjacket curriculum that needs to be abolished. Educational free-marketeers would love to see all schools fully independent of state control, competing for pupils, setting their own curriculum and choosing which exams their students should sit. How far political expediency will derail these aspirations has yet to be decided. karolgadge

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